1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Cutbooms. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to Clearinghouse of 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: with Ben Maller starts right now in. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: The air everywhere. The Fifth Hour with Me Ben Mahler. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: It is produced by Danny G Radio. He hopefully will 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: join us at some point over the weekend, but we 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: are back at it. The weekend begins right now on 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: a random Friday, a random Friday. So the way this 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: works on Fridays, I do the radio show. I then 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: walk out of the radio studio and it's kind of 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: like the Grandpa Simpson gift where you walk in and 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: out and then back in again and the meme. I 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: guess it's not a gift, it's a meme. And it's 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: that scene where in The Simpsons where Grandpa the Great 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Abe Simpson enters the room. He looks around there's Bart 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Simpson sitting there at the dais and he promptly leaves. 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: And so that's pretty much it. That's pretty god. I 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: go into the studio, I go out, and I go 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: back in again. And on this edition of the podcast today, 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the only available in the podcast format, we have the 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: always Riveting Blue Flu, the South Park spin off with 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a twist, and the Phrase of the Week as well. However, 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: today is the fourteenth day of November. There is a 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: holiday today you likely did not know about. It is 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: a food holiday. I will not be celebrating this holi 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: the day I've taken a strong position against this particular 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: food item. Today is National Pickle Day. Yes, National pickle 33 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: Day from the old world. Now. I grew up going 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: to Delis with my family. You know these motz of 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: ball soup and pastromi sandwiches and all that stuff at 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: the Delhi, and they'd always give you when you sat 37 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: down a thing of pickles. My mom loved pickles. I 38 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: didn't like the texture. I didn't I didn't like any 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: the smell I was okay with. But in honor of 40 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: National Pickle there, which is a big day I know 41 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: for Alf the alien ol Piner, who, for some reason, 42 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: because he's Alf, loves the pickle. The pickle though they 43 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: dated back they being the supposed experts, they did it 44 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: back to twenty thirty BC. The Mesopotamians would pickle cucumbers 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: were native to India, and that gave birth to what 46 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: has become. I mean, that's a long time Holy Canoli 47 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: twenty thirty BC. But the Mesopotamians, you can thank them. 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't until the tenth century, according to the pickle propaganda, 49 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that dill became a central ingredient in many brine mixtures 50 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: and all that stuff Western Europe and countries along that line. 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: And then in the nineteen forties, the United States government 52 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: they said, you know what, we're producing a lot of pickles. 53 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: They produced forty percent of the US pickle output, was 54 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: the United States government. And if you're producing pickles and 55 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: you're the government, what do you do. You include pickles 56 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: in the rations for the armed forces, is what you do. Okay, 57 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: there you go. So it's National Pickled Day. But we'll 58 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: begin with this. So I was not planning on talking 59 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: about this, but I got a couple of emails from 60 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: people who were looking for me to rant and rave. 61 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Interesting enough, not from Lucky Tony. Not from Lucky Tony. 62 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: So the baseball season is long over. They had the 63 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: GM meetings this week, they had the MVP awards given out. 64 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm not doing a ran about showy Otani. That's not 65 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: what this is about. Apparently the Dodger nation is up 66 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: in arms because Dave Roberts. How many votes did he 67 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: get for Manager? He didn't win the award, I didn't 68 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: win the word. How many votes did Dave Roberts get? 69 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: You want to take a guess? You see this? No, 70 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you didn't see this. Okay, So Dave Roberts did he get? 71 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three options here. Did he get 72 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: thirteen votes for Manage of the Year? Did Dave Roberts 73 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: get nine votes for Manage of the Year? Or did 74 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts get three votes from Manager of the Year 75 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: or the other option? Option D is none of the above? 76 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: All right? Reveal answers. Reveal answers. Turns out that Dave 77 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Roberts got as many votes for Manage of the Year 78 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: as you and I did. None, not a single vote 79 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: for Manage of the year. Bupkis squad douche. So let 80 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: us address. We will dress together. We're going to address 81 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: the snuffle of igus in the room. So you've got 82 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: David Vasse, enemy combatant of this podcast, running around like 83 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: someone stole his truro at a Dodger game, yelling disrespect, disrespect. 84 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: Now we know Vassay is a legendary houseman for the Dodgers, 85 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: that he is friends with all the players. He's a mouthpiece. 86 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: He's been that way for years, and it's part of 87 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: the job when you do that job. If you're too critical, 88 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: you don't get to do that job. He's had the 89 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: job for a while, which tells you he's the number 90 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: one cheerleader around. He's got the blue pom poms and 91 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: everything like you month. I had that job years ago. 92 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: I didn't last very long because it's not in my DNA. 93 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: It's baked into me to be critical. I can't be 94 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: a fanboy. I wish I could. I'd get better jobs 95 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: as a fanboy. You get better gigs. If you're critical, 96 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: you do the overnight show. At least that's the way 97 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: it's worked out for me. So let me help out 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Vesay because Insa used to be my producer in another life. 99 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: So let me help out Vesse and all the Dodger 100 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: people out there who are I'm a Dodger person. I'm 101 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: happy they won the World Series. I love the fact 102 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: that they're going to win several more World Series in 103 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: the next ten years. It's wonderful. The question, is it 104 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: a great injustice that the Dodgers Dave Roberts got no 105 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: votes for Manager of the Year as the skipper of 106 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Keep in mind, because they won the World Series. 107 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: So I've got on this one. I've got beeswax, candle, 108 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: RB's in honor of Danny g and Catholic Church, and 109 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: we will combine all of these things together and we 110 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: are going to make thousands of downloads. Thousands. Now, Remember 111 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: I've ranted many times about bots and how all this 112 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: stuff is inflated and manipulated. I never said I was 113 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: against it. I just don't want to spend my own money. 114 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: But if one of you knuckleheads has a bot army 115 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: in Maldova, I'd be more than happy to have them 116 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: just listen and enjoy the heck out of it. Anyway, 117 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: back to the point, So to answer the question, is 118 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: this a great injustice that Dave Roberts did not get 119 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: a single vote for Manager of the Year, My response 120 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: is PULLEYE. Is my response. That is my response giving 121 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: this a super duper eye roll. Credit comes from let 122 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: me explain this to you. I know it's difficult for 123 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: some to understand. Credit comes from exceed not doing average work. 124 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: This is a regular season award. The playoffs does not matter. 125 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: The Dodgers spent I believe the number is one point 126 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: three billion. The last couple of offseasons they went on 127 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: a rodeo drive style shopping spree. Sho Hail Tani, Yoshinobu, Yamamoto, 128 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Glass. Now they re signed ti Oscar Hernandez. And 129 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: that's just the tip of the iceberg. And despite all 130 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: of that, despite all of those amazing ballplayers, the Dodgers 131 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five underachieved. Oh my god, you can't 132 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: say that, Ben, They won the overnight. I don't even 133 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: know what voice that is. It is true they won 134 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: the overnight, but they did underachieve that. Vegas had the 135 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Dodger win total at one hundred and five point five wins. 136 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: The Dodgers won ninety three games. Now, if you do 137 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the malor math on that, it's minus twelve and a half. 138 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: So if you who were the skipper of a team 139 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: that won twelve games less, twelve and a half less 140 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: than they were supposed to. Would you be worthy of 141 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: some kind of accolades for that? That's not Manager of 142 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: the Year. That calls for a performance review. You did 143 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: not meet the regular season expectations. Again, just to repeat, 144 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: because I know I'm going to get some emails from 145 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: you knuckleheads and a little slow. It's a regular season award. 146 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Are we supposed to light a beeswhack candle for poor 147 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts? Give me a bleep and break. Dave Roberts 148 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: is not managing the Dodgers. He's play acting. He's an 149 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: IKEA display model wearing a hoodie. It's a great gig. 150 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: It pays a lot of money. Now page two here, 151 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: So Dave Roberts is essentially the assistant shift supervisor at 152 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: an Arby's and he reading whatever Andrew Friedman and the 153 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: NERD Battalion print out the morning of the game or 154 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: the afternoon of the game, the analytical menu. Imagine if 155 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: you will, world where Dave Roberts is working the drive 156 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: through at Arby's. Hello, welcome to the Dodger Stadium. Arby's. 157 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: Can I take your preapproved lineup card? So Dave Roberts 158 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: doesn't so much manage the games, he downloads them. Roberts 159 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: getting zero votes for Manager of the Year. That is 160 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: not a snub. That is a diagnosis. That is a diagnosis. 161 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: You can't win Manager of the Year if your biggest 162 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: managerial decision all season is whether to stand on the 163 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: top step or to sit near the top step of 164 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the dugout. The industry knows it. The baseball writers who 165 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: vote on this know it. Held the ushers at Dodgers 166 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: Stadium know it. This isn't some kind of a anti 167 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: Dodger conspira. It's not. This's not blow this thing out 168 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: of proportion. This is the mafia of baseball writers, the 169 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: BBWAA saying, yes, we see the snuffle upagus wearing the 170 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: Dodger hat in the room, that the dude is a 171 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: middle manager with a laminated card. Mallard prop guy knows that. 172 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Justin in Cincinnati knows that. Even Robbie the Mariner fan 173 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: knows that. Right, they all know it. I don't know 174 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: about Jed hu fled. Meanwhile, you've got Pat Murphy in Milwaukee. 175 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: The Brewers were rejected to win eighty two and a 176 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: half games this year. Eighty two and a half games. 177 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: They didn't go out and spend a billion dollars on 178 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: free agents. Eighty two and a half wins, They end 179 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: up winning ninety seven. They had the top record in baseball. 180 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: If my malor math is correct, that means they were 181 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: fourteen and a half games above expectations, which I don't 182 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: know how much Pat Murphy's managing day to day, but 183 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: it certainly seems like if you're gonna give an award 184 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: to somebody, that would be the guy that wins it. 185 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: That's actual value added. You take that roster, the brew 186 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: Crewe roster, a bunch of mid tier guys, bargain bin pitching, 187 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: slap together bullpen that was literally they used gorilla glue 188 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: to keep the bullpen together and they went ninety seven. 189 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, you get the trophy. And again the other 190 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: argument as well, I got the Dave Roberts. He wasn't 191 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna win, but he should have gotten a vote or 192 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: something along those lines. Now, the last word here on 193 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: this part of the Malar monologue, the bonus Malear monologue. 194 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: Is it true? Here's the question, Is it true that 195 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are the only team in baseball where you 196 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: can win the World Series and the reaction is okay, 197 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: but we didn't get one vote from Manager of the Year. 198 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: What's up with that? We did not meet the spreadsheet? 199 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: And even in the year they win the World Series 200 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: back to back, you know, two years in a row. Here, 201 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: they want a regular season award at least a vote 202 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: because the pr machine says that they needed a vote. 203 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: They need the validation. And this has been a big 204 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: part of what the Dodgers have become recently. There's a 205 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: lot of whining over there at Dodgers Stadium, a lot 206 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: of whining, right, they need that validation, always begging for 207 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: the pad on the back and all it is that 208 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: the Hollywood stuff is that Andrew Friedman, I don't know. 209 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: And again I'm a Dodger fan. I don't like the attitude. 210 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: It's weak sauce, is what it is. But let me 211 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: put it to you another way. If you gave me 212 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: a roster of Sho Hail Tani, Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman, 213 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Tyler Glass Now and all these other cats 214 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: a payroll that requires a private equity firm to audit it, 215 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: and if I don't win one hundred plus games. If 216 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't reach one hundred wins, I would expect zero 217 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: votes for Manager of the Year. I would expect someone 218 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: to take my key card. If this was the Catholic Church, 219 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: you'd be excommunicated for that. Dave Roberts is not getting robbed. 220 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: He didn't get robbed. He's getting graded fairly, honestly, and 221 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that often. Like he's a robotic manager. 222 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: He gets well paid. It's big check and all that stuff. 223 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: It's corporate baseball, it's push button, Hamburger, helper, all that 224 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: pr approved quotes, and the voters finally said, they said 225 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: it out loud is what they did. So I don't 226 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: have any kind of beef, any kind of issue with 227 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: that at all. Now turning the page to something completely different, 228 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: a show that I have not watched in years, South Park, 229 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: And no, this is not about South Park, but in 230 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: many ways it is. It's a South Park spin off. 231 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: For years on that show, the most famous catchphrase I 232 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: guess they actually finally whacked this guy was, oh my god, 233 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: they killed Kenny. We can update that they did kill Kenny. 234 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Finally they killed them off. We can update it though 235 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: through the magic of the cartoon. Oh my god, they 236 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: killed penny. That's right. Leave it to the federal government 237 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: to accidentally give a struggling overnight gas bag who moonlights 238 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: with a gambling entertainment hybrid one of the great marketing 239 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: boosts in history, at least the history of this show 240 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: and the number of you were reached out. Oh, I'm 241 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: so sorry, the penny's going away and tell me you 242 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: don't get it without telling me you don't get In fact, 243 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: Gascon who used to work on this podcast, he was 244 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: trolling me, and I was like, dude, this guy really 245 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: doesn't understand how this works. I felt bad for him. 246 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: I've been living in Florida. He's semi retired there, shame 247 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: on him. But this week the US Mint in Philadelphia 248 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: hammered out its final final addition. Circulating of the Penny 249 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: dun skis finished. No more, no more naa no no 250 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: naa Hey, good bye. Yeah, after two hundred and thirty 251 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: eight years, two hundred and thirty eight years of making 252 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: a coin that for most of that no one wanted 253 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: and no one used, and no one bent over to 254 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: pick up unless they were already on the ground tying 255 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: their shoe or they were completely hammered, laying in a 256 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: gutter somewhere. Well, the people in Washington have finally pulled 257 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: the plug. Now to give you an idea, how crazy, 258 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: how absolutely bananas, two hundred and thirty eight years is. 259 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: Let's do some spur of the moment, mall. So a 260 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: generation is twenty years. So if you divide two hundred 261 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: and thirty eight by twenty, that equals almost twelve generations, 262 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: just to share under twelve generations of men and women 263 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: that have entered the world. And the penny has been 264 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: part of the world two hundred thirty eight years, and 265 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: they say bye bye. And doing so, they've turned Benny 266 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: Versus the Penny, which is available right now on YouTube, 267 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: our long running radio segment which turned into a TV show, 268 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: which turned viral video on YouTube. That creation because we're creators, 269 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: and it gave us something that we did not ask for, 270 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: unintentionally immortal. Seriously, Oh, you're just full of crap, bad, No, 271 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. Let me explain. The penny has been decommissioned, 272 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: put out the pastor given the pink slip, whatever you want. 273 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: Benny versus the Penny has been promoted like ships passing 274 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: in the night the government killed the penny and made 275 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: our little YouTube show a cultural time capsule. And that's 276 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: how things wors Oh, that makes money. This is how 277 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: things work. Number One, we ignore something for decades or 278 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: longer than that. Number two, the government bans it, ends it, 279 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: or shuts it down, whatever you want to say, and 280 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: suddenly it becomes iconic. It's called the Streisan effect with 281 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: a copper plating. In terms of this little ditty that 282 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about right now. The second the mint in 283 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: Philadelphia stopped making pennies, this became a story that was everywhere. 284 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: The coin became cooler, it became rarer, it became more nostalgic, 285 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: more American, became a talking point at parties and social 286 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: events and whatnot, and on the Ben Maller Show and 287 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: the other platforms that we partake in, like this Fifth 288 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Hour podcast where the penny was. We did Benny Versus 289 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: the Penny on the podcast here flipping pennies metaphorically. For man, 290 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: it's been almost twenty years and now we can say 291 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: that my co star on Benny Versus the Penny has 292 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: now entered the national archive, alongside the cassette tape, the 293 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: rotary phone, the floppy disc. The pager finds out old 294 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: you are. If you're old, you've used all this stuff. 295 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: The VHS tape shout out to our friends at Blockbuster 296 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: Video back in the day, and every other relic Americans 297 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: suddenly can't live without. Once it's discontinued, the penny is 298 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: now part of the Remember when industrial complex? Remember when 299 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I love that, Remember when we used to use typewriters, 300 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: Remember when we used to use blah blah blah film, 301 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: And Benny Versus the Penny gets to stand right next 302 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: to it, right right next to it, industrial complex that. 303 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: Remember when a show built on a coin and is 304 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: now part of history. You can't buy that kind of branding. 305 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: So I want to thank the boys in DC, the 306 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: people that made this decision. And Benny Versus the Penny 307 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: now has what every show wants, a story the media 308 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have to invent. And there are networks we worked 309 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: at NBC last couple of years. There are networks that 310 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money, millions and millions, trying to 311 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: manufacture bus. Media companies just in general, whether it's TV 312 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: or radio or podcasting, they spend a lot of money 313 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: trying to create buzz trying to make something important, something 314 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: out of nothing. And I just happened to wake up 315 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: one morning and my phone was filled with messages about people. 316 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: Oh I'm so sorry. Oh that sucks. What a bum 317 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: what a bum ride that is for you and I 318 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, wait a minute here, 319 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: well that's not bad. I wake up and I discover 320 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: that our little mascot friend is trending because Congress finally 321 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: figured out how math works. It's pretty crazy that it's 322 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: lasted this long. That's one thing about big government, the bureaucracy. 323 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: Things never get changed right away. Another great example is 324 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: the clocks, which I don't know anyone that thinks it's 325 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: a good idea to change the clocks in most states 326 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: in the United States, right, you go from daylight savings 327 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: time and all that, and you change the clocks. As 328 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: everyone complains about it, there's more access. More people die 329 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: every year because of the time change. They don't get 330 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: the right amount of sleep, and their bio rhythms are 331 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: all messed up. And the government doesn't care. They talk 332 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: about changing, but they never do. And the penny it 333 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: costs three point seven cents to make a penny. It 334 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: has a face value of one cent. So someone in 335 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: DC apparently saw the deficit, looking at the coin and said, okay, 336 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: we can at least stop losing money on this. We're 337 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: going to continue to lose money on the frivolous pork 338 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: barrel spending. We're going to continue to do that unchecked, 339 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: and the bridges to nowhere. Now the result of all this, 340 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: every headline about the penny all over the interweb, the 341 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: retirement of the penny is inadvertently a headline that is 342 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: about benny versus the penny. When people search on YouTube 343 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: for the penny, they'll see benny versus the penny. Every 344 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: feature story about the end of the penny production suddenly 345 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: serves as free advertising for a radio bit that became 346 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: a TV show that became a YouTube channel. This is 347 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: what you call falling up and the penny. The death 348 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 1: of the penny actually strengthens the gimmick. A gimmick is 349 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: only as good as the icon it leads on, and 350 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: before this week, the penny was, let's face it, the 351 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: penny was a nuisance for a lot of people, that 352 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: annoying loose change that you can't buy anything with, right 353 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: stuck between some bubble gum and the rappers, and there's 354 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: like Kawan rolling around. Maybe it's in your glove compartment 355 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: now again. Conversation piece, collectible taxpayer subsidized relic of Americana Maracana, 356 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: which is also a shopping center in Glendale. And every 357 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: time someone says remember those pennies that we used to have, yeah, 358 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: the answer is now, hey, yeah, benny versus the penny? 359 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: I remember, Benny versus the penny I do. The gimmick 360 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: didn't get weaker, it just gained gravatas, and we love 361 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: the word gravtas. The penny is no longer pocket lint. 362 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: It's not. It's a legacy object, is what it is. 363 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Like the Yellow first down line, first down, the Red 364 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: Sox Curse of the Bambino, which so many people have 365 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: forgotten because the Red Sox have been really good over 366 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years, and the Cubs Curse of 367 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: the Billy Goat. Shout out to our friend Doc Mike Darno, 368 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, so our show is now the last major 369 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: remaining national stage where the penny will perform during football season. 370 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: The TV, the radio, the YouTube versions have all had 371 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: the penny, but they'll all benefit on the radio the 372 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: bit carries historical weight. It started on the radio, gave 373 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: birth to it years ago, and there's a sense of it. 374 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: We're keeping alive something the government declared dead. That resonates, right, 375 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: that resonates why not right? The classic crowd that we 376 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: have of rebels, misfits, traditionalists, good guys, bad guys who 377 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: think the world has moved too fast. Now on TV, 378 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: the story sells itself, and there's been some rumblings the 379 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: show will eventually return to television. But producers love a hook, 380 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: and now it's Benny versus the Penny has a built 381 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: in hook. It's obviously as shows starring a coin that 382 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: no longer is produced. It's nostalgia with a current events twist. Yeah, 383 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: And on YouTube Rocket Fuel YouTube lives on algorithms and controversy. 384 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: Penny discontinued The Final Penny, the last penny ever minted. 385 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: Every search term spikes up the numbers. It leads to 386 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: people subscribing to our channel, to the Benny Versus the 387 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: Penny channel, which is all good and so it's not 388 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: a marketing gimmick. It's marketing luck or destiny delivered by 389 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of bureaucrats in DC so the penny, while 390 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: it is not being made and it'll eventually be gone, 391 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: it is still very much in circulation. There's a bunch 392 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: of pennies out there and will be around for years, 393 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: and Benny versus the Penny will be around forever. Of course, 394 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: forever is as long as I live. And once I'm 395 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: no longer around, that's forever. That's the end of time. 396 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Americans love nostalgia, love tradition, wrap yourself in the flag, 397 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: love old things that won't die. How many documentaries have 398 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I seen about Root sixty six? Get your kicks on 399 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: Root sixty six, jukeboxes, you name it. The Chicago Cubs 400 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: and the Braves on superstations back in the day, the 401 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: NFL insisting that fans sit outside for four hours in 402 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: a snow flurry in Buffalo. Things like that that just 403 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: continue on now. The penny belongs in the penny pantheon, 404 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: and as the keeper of the penny, the man yelling 405 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: into a microphone in the middle of the night or 406 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: here early in the morning on a Friday that just 407 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: happened to fall into the coin flipping situation. We were 408 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: originally going to do Benny Versus the Monkey, but we 409 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: couldn't get a monk, couldn't get a monk. And then 410 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well how about Benny versus the parrot? 411 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, that's not going to work either, 412 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: And so there you go. Franchise that we've made out 413 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: of spare change and the penny may be discontinued, but 414 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: the show it inspired will outlive it. The coin is gone, 415 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: the brand is eternal, and for once, I want to 416 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: thank our political class. They made something more popular by 417 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: ending it. Yeah, so Benny versus the penny becomes the 418 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: Penny's final and greatest revenge. I couldn't do this rant 419 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: about the penny without mentioning my dear old father. When 420 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: my Pops passed away, he left behind at least five 421 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: or six jugs of pennies pennies. I talked about that 422 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: on this podcast when we lost my pops, and the 423 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: thing about that time, I kept thinking, hey, Dad, why 424 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: couldn't you have collected quarters or at least nichols give 425 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: me something more than pennies, because we had so many 426 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: pennies and it ended up getting us like one hundred 427 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: dollars or two hundred dollars. This was hardly anything and 428 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, that is just wacky, wacky, wacky 429 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: all right. Time now for the phrase of the week, 430 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: if you're unburdened by the phrase all the week. So 431 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: it's back by popular man. I want to thank Scott 432 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: and Florida, who is from Cali but has lived in 433 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: Florida for a while now and Scott is a big 434 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: consumer of the audio content. We thanks Scott for that, 435 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: and he said, we got to bring that phrase of 436 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: the week back. So I'm gonna give you some phrases. 437 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: I want you to do a deep dive on. The 438 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: phrase of the week today is tough as nails. Tough 439 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: as nails, So it comes from Scott in Florida and 440 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: toughen nails short, straight verbal scrapyard, toughest nails now. The 441 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: origin the phrase toughest nails dates back to the early 442 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred. It's been a minute, first appearing in a 443 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: marria in English. At that time, nails, the literal metal 444 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: kind were considered one of the most durable, one of 445 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: the toughest, most unbreakable, everyday objects people handled in the world. 446 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Their technology was not anywhere close to where it is now. 447 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: Why would it be at that time, and so this 448 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: was a very powerful thing. 449 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: Man. 450 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: They didn't bend easily. These things didn't snap. They could 451 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: take a pounding and kept going and all that souff. 452 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. Now. The metaphor caught on quickly 453 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: because early America loved these simple physical imagery. If someone 454 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: was hard, unyielding, gritty, moxie, able to withstand punishment, comparing 455 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: them to a nail was perfect. And so by the 456 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: mid nineteenth century the phrase was firmly part of the lexicon, 457 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: and these things called newspapers, frontier slang, boxing vernacular. It 458 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: became part of boxing. So tough as nails emerged in 459 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: Britain with the same meaning as hard as nails. It's 460 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: just a trade off there tough, resilient, not easily overcome 461 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: or defeated. By eighteen fifty seven it had gone from 462 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: Britain to Australia, and then eighteen sixty one it became 463 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: somewhat popular in the United States, and then it was 464 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: really the eighteen nineties, so another thirty years the thing 465 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: took off. There was no Internet, there were no viral 466 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: videos at that time, and some other related phrases other 467 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: than the aforementioned tough as nails and hard as nails. 468 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: You have tough as shoe leather and tough old bird 469 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: as well. It's a great homage to the blacksmith bench, 470 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: the carpenter pouch, big parts of the early American jobs 471 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: that people had to have that are now done or 472 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: will be done by robots and AI and all that 473 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: wonderful stuff. So there it is the phrase of the week, 474 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: tough as nails. Thanks to Scott in Florida for that. 475 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: Have a wonderful rest of your Friday. We will have 476 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: a new episode of this podcast on Saturday, and the 477 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: mail Bag on Sunday. And until then, Rivadev J. Hello 478 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: what else? Oh yeah, that's right. Asta pasta tastes like 479 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: a touchdown in your mouth. I gotta say that, Arlse. 480 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: Danny's not going to put the podcast up, so I 481 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: gotta say asta pasta got a murder. I gotta go