Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. First
Speaker 1: full night of sleep in more than one year, not
Speaker 1: an analogy. Literally Tuesday night, first full, uninterrupted, boring night
Speaker 1: of sleep in more than a year. And what was
Speaker 1: my reward to wake up to Trump beginning a climb
Speaker 1: down from the shutdown? To wake up to Mayor elect
Speaker 1: Mamdani and Governor elect Cheryl and Governor Elect Spanberger and
Speaker 1: PROMP fifty passing and every one of Virginia's ninety five
Speaker 1: counties getting more blue. To wake up to the reality
Speaker 1: that Trump has absolutely no idea, he got the shit
Speaker 1: kicked out of him, and that Trump is deranged syndrome
Speaker 1: is fatal, not fixable. To wake up to the reality
Speaker 1: that the real outcome of the elections in New York,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Virginia, California and everywhere else was Trump's sense
Speaker 1: of permanence, his own sense that the murder he's been
Speaker 1: getting away with he'll continue to get away with, and
Speaker 1: the sense of his supporters, and the sense of the
Speaker 1: moronic political media, and even the sense of some of
Speaker 1: us resisting him. They're our sense that he will continue
Speaker 1: to get away with it. Gone. Permanence is the default
Speaker 1: position of almost all politicians, and especially the corrupt and
Speaker 1: stupid ones. Permanence is the default position of all mainstream
Speaker 1: political reporters and analysts, and the higher up the food
Speaker 1: chain they are, the more they cling to permanence Because Mortgages.
Speaker 1: I have long thought that the most perceptive analysis of
Speaker 1: politicians ever anywhere was unintentional, and it is in the
Speaker 1: last place you would look for it. The Beatles movie
Speaker 1: help from the Leo McKern character, the hazily defined Eastern
Speaker 1: religious sacrificial cult leader Klang. The sacrificial ring is missing.
Speaker 1: Klang says, something must be done without the ring. There
Speaker 1: will be no sacrifice without the sacrifice. There will be
Speaker 1: no congregation without the congregation. No more me. His deputy
Speaker 1: then says this is so, so Klang hits him. Klang
Speaker 1: is Trump. Klang is also JV. Vance. Klang is also
Speaker 1: Van Jones. Klang is also Eric Adams. Klang is also
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo. Klang is also Chris Cuomo. Klang is also
Speaker 1: Chris Matthew. Klang is also Matthew Iglesias. I could go on,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Klang is everybody on Fox, No more me.
Speaker 1: Trump wasn't on the ballot, Trump screamed in pain at
Speaker 1: ten pm Tuesday night. And shut down were the two
Speaker 1: reasons that Republicans lost elections tonight. Bullshit, poor Trump. There
Speaker 1: is a news flash in there, and I'll get to
Speaker 1: that in a moment, But first, while we are watching
Speaker 1: him squirm, let's remember to make him squirm even harder.
Speaker 1: Trump not only was on the ballot every ballot, but
Speaker 1: he was on the ballot in the worst possible way.
Speaker 1: Everybody could vote no on him, but it was almost
Speaker 1: impossible to vote yes. The lame duck politician's worst nightmare.
Speaker 1: To paraphrase another unlikely source, the sixties and seventies political
Speaker 1: impressionist David Fry, a lame duck like Trump can only
Speaker 1: accept blame. He cannot accept responsibility. As Fry said, and
Speaker 1: he said it in an immaculate impersonation of Richard Nixon,
Speaker 1: those who are to blame lose their jobs. Those who
Speaker 1: are responsible do not. Trump is to blame. Actually, there
Speaker 1: are two newsflashes in what he said and wrote. The
Speaker 1: second one is these results may increase slightly the chance
Speaker 1: he goes full dictator, so there aren't any more elections
Speaker 1: because he knows he's going to lose them all from
Speaker 1: here on in whatever you think the odds are on
Speaker 1: that maybe they went up one or two percent, But
Speaker 1: the more immediate news flash he repeated to Senate Republicans
Speaker 1: in a White House breakfast yesterday, which if it did
Speaker 1: not feature Trump throwing catchup at them, it could have.
Speaker 1: In his panicked post, he blamed the shutdown to the
Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate. At the breakfast, he blamed the shutdown. He,
Speaker 1: quoting the report, said that the GOP is getting hurt
Speaker 1: more by the shutdown than Democrats because they are in
Speaker 1: charge in Washington. Per source. Well, it's finally happened on
Speaker 1: one issue, the shutdown. Trump is, of course, one hundred
Speaker 1: percent correct. He may be wrong about nearly everything. He
Speaker 1: is usually either repeating something he misheard in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: two or something that happened to him in a dream
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty five. He may have just again told
Speaker 1: the media that you can't buy gas or groceries without ID,
Speaker 1: possibly because the last time he actually bought groceries with mommy,
Speaker 1: she paid by check and you had to show the
Speaker 1: manager and ID to use the check, which is how
Speaker 1: it worked in the sixties. I know I was there.
Speaker 1: My mommy did it too. Of course, the Republicans are
Speaker 1: blamed for the sho shut down. Trump is blamed for
Speaker 1: the shutdown. It's their shutdown. But Trump still believes this
Speaker 1: is fixable by eliminating the filibuster because Trump's Republicans may
Speaker 1: differ from say, Dick Cheney's Republicans in a million ways,
Speaker 1: but one core way they are identical is they are
Speaker 1: fully committed to the bit. If you do something evil
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work, if it doesn't scare people into
Speaker 1: voting for you, your mistake clearly was it wasn't evil enough.
Speaker 1: Do it more, do it worse. Whatever doesn't work, do
Speaker 1: it again, do it more. Senate Republicans will not nuke
Speaker 1: the filibuster for the same reason that Kirsten Cinema would
Speaker 1: not nuke the filibuster, and the same reason most mainstream
Speaker 1: Democrats won't nuke the philibuster, but just won't say so.
Speaker 1: The filibuster is the only thing that keeps the Senate
Speaker 1: alive at every crossroads on the path that leads to
Speaker 1: the future. The Belgian poet Maurice Metterlink wrote, each progressive
Speaker 1: spirit is opposed by a thousand men appointed to guard
Speaker 1: the past. The Senate is only one hundred of them,
Speaker 1: men and women appointed to guard the past. But that's
Speaker 1: who Metalink meant. If they cannot build a dam against
Speaker 1: every reform, if there isn't a now impossible to reach
Speaker 1: majority of sixty on nearly everything, the House will go
Speaker 1: from about twenty percent of national legislative power to about
Speaker 1: ninety percent. The Senate won't count anymore. How is a
Speaker 1: minority party senator supposed to sell his vote if his
Speaker 1: vote can no longer cause the toilets to overflow? At
Speaker 1: every crossroads on the path that leads to the future,
Speaker 1: each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand men appointed
Speaker 1: to make sure the toilets overflow. A kind of doubt,
Speaker 1: Trump quoted Metterlink even my revised version of Metalink. When
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham allegedly yelled at him yesterday about the filibuster,
Speaker 1: I kind of doubt. Graham even quoted Klang. Maybe the
Speaker 1: part about now ma R may, but you get the
Speaker 1: point that he has been repudiated has not yet fully
Speaker 1: dawned on Trump, but that the shutdown has been repudiated
Speaker 1: that has dawned on him. He realizes that what he
Speaker 1: thought was a plus is in fact a disaster. He
Speaker 1: has a solution to this, shoot the filibuster and get
Speaker 1: everything he wants done and done now, but not even
Speaker 1: his Senate Todys will do that. He will eventually, therefore,
Speaker 1: panic and move to another solution. He alone can end
Speaker 1: the shutdown. He will sell out his Senate toadies. He
Speaker 1: will make Mike Johnson look like an id to the
Speaker 1: twenty two percent of the country that does not yet
Speaker 1: know he's an idiot. He will proclaim himself a hero.
Speaker 1: It will be like Trump and China and the soybeans.
Speaker 1: Look at me, I'm the hero. I just got the
Speaker 1: Chinese to agree to buy as many soybeans as they
Speaker 1: were buying before I created this crisis. Look at me,
Speaker 1: I'm the hero. I just got the government to be open,
Speaker 1: just like it was before I created the crisis where
Speaker 1: it closed. Me me me iy iy i, Trump Trump, Trump, Okay.
Speaker 1: Out of the weeds, into the lessons, the lessons of
Speaker 1: the democratic landslide. First, socialism was not on the ballot
Speaker 1: democratic socialist. That has that This country has been capitalist
Speaker 1: socialist for at least ninety two years since FDR was
Speaker 1: sworn in maybe since nineteen thirteen, when the sixteenth Amendment
Speaker 1: passed and we established a federal income tax. Maybe seventeen
Speaker 1: six Keep your goddamn government hands off, my socialist medicare off,
Speaker 1: my socialist medicaid off, my socialist social security off, my
Speaker 1: socialist blues state support for financially insoluble red states Mam
Speaker 1: Donnie a socialist. Did you see the exit polls in
Speaker 1: New York? Do you consider yourself a democratic socialist? Sixty
Speaker 1: nine percent of New York's voters said no, twenty five
Speaker 1: percent said yes. Three percent of New York voters who
Speaker 1: said yes, we're democratic socialists also said we're voting for
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo. The word socialism is meaningless. Mamdanni beat the
Speaker 1: shit out of Cuomo. The old school corrupt, antidiluvian machine
Speaker 1: politics typical craft shack New York Democrat in the primary
Speaker 1: and after the old school corrupt, antidiluvian machine political typical
Speaker 1: crap shack billionaires like Mike Bloomberg and Bill Ackman spent
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars to prop up the old
Speaker 1: school corrupt, antidiluvian machine politics typical crapshack New York Democrat
Speaker 1: and got three quarters of Republicans to vote for him.
Speaker 1: After that, after making Cuomo the Fusion all Evil Parties candidate,
Speaker 1: and got seven out of ten Trump supporters in New
Speaker 1: York to vote for Cuomo. Even after all that, ma'am
Speaker 1: Danny beat the shit out of him again. Lesson here,
Speaker 1: Trump is undiluted, untreatable political death in blue states. He is, though,
Speaker 1: becoming political death in Purple states. He is moving inexorably
Speaker 1: towards becoming political death in red states. This is what
Speaker 1: we found out during the Democratic landslide. The other lessons,
Speaker 1: Ma'm donnie ran on your money issues and that Trump
Speaker 1: equals death. Not difficult, easy to remember, useful on all occasions.
Speaker 1: Your money issues and Trump equals death. Worked in New York,
Speaker 1: where they elected a socialist who got majority support from
Speaker 1: Democrats who aren't socialists. Worked in Virginia where they elected
Speaker 1: as governor and ex congresswomen born in Jersey. Worked in
Speaker 1: Jersey where they elected as governor and ex congress woman
Speaker 1: born in Virginia. Your money issues and Trump equals death,
Speaker 1: both of them useful on all occasions. It's a floor
Speaker 1: wax and a dessert topping. Other lessons Chuck Schumer resign
Speaker 1: at least a Senate I'm an already leader. You were
Speaker 1: one of metterlinks thousand men appointed to guard the past.
Speaker 1: Guess what the future got passed you? Resign, Get out
Speaker 1: of the way. David Axelrod and Van Jones, who criticized
Speaker 1: mom Donnie's victory speech, let me paraphrase you had another
Speaker 1: pop reference another movie, The Sweet Smell of Success. Burt
Speaker 1: Lancaster is the monstrous gossip columnist JJ Hunsecker, Van David,
Speaker 1: your politically dead son, get yourself buried. Governor elect Spanberger, congratulations,
Speaker 1: Now fix the toilet that you cause to overflow. Why
Speaker 1: is it that everybody keeps thinking somebody running in a city,
Speaker 1: admittedly an enormous city, that that is the deciding race. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe governor elect, because right now, in all of Virginia
Speaker 1: forty two thousand square miles, the population is only three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three thousand people more than in New
Speaker 1: York City four hundred and sixty eight square miles. Asked
Speaker 1: about mom Donnie saying he had won the fight for
Speaker 1: the soul of the future of the Democratic Party, probably
Speaker 1: a boast that he didn't need to make. Spanberger reposted,
Speaker 1: then maybe he should be a Democrat, Madam Governor elect
Speaker 1: stfu a new rule here. We are here to save democracy.
Speaker 1: We are here to end the Trumpsts. We are here
Speaker 1: to save America, not to polish our own asses. Trump
Speaker 1: fired thousands of Virginians and backed a raving lunatic who
Speaker 1: had a one issue campaign that apparently only she and
Speaker 1: Riley Gaines given f about maybe you could chill on
Speaker 1: taking potshots at Mam Donnie and get back to business
Speaker 1: having been gifted a landslide by Donald Trump. Or or
Speaker 1: go ahead, get on the Chuck Schumer bandwagon. And I
Speaker 1: mean that literally. I come completely believe now that Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer travels by horse drawn bandwagon. Whoa slow down? We
Speaker 1: must be going eight nine miles an hour, Gabby, No
Speaker 1: human can survive this speed. Other other lessons more philosophical.
Speaker 1: The pundits were wrong. Of course, the pundits were wrong.
Speaker 1: The rule of punditry is only leaped to the most obvious,
Speaker 1: least uncertain conclusion. A poll shows the Democratic Party is
Speaker 1: less popular than it used to be. Well, that must
Speaker 1: be because nobody wants to vote Democratic orherever will vote
Speaker 1: Democratic again, Except if you'd read the second line of
Speaker 1: the story. The second line on the poll result indicated
Speaker 1: that most of those who were dissatisfied with the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party were Democrats who thought that the Democrats were not
Speaker 1: fighting hard enough against Trump and the economic disaster of
Speaker 1: our times. Look, there are only two possibilities for that
Speaker 1: the Democratic brand is damaged. Bullshit. It's either that, Yes,
Speaker 1: Democrats are less popular generally, and when put to the
Speaker 1: first one hundred or so tests, the first one hundred
Speaker 1: or so important votes this Tuesday, it didn't matter at
Speaker 1: all because the final was Democrats one hundred, Republicans nothing.
Speaker 1: They were just watching. It's either that or it's what
Speaker 1: I just said. Democrats want more Mamdani, less Cuomo, more Newsome,
Speaker 1: less Schumer, more punches thrown, less moderate third way crap.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know what way the third
Speaker 1: way is. The third way is losing badly. That's what
Speaker 1: the third way is. First way is winning, Second way
Speaker 1: is losing. Third way is losing badly. I want this
Speaker 1: new group running the Democrats first way. Other lessons, you
Speaker 1: cannot fire all of northern Virginia and then win Virginia.
Speaker 1: You cannot gestapo Latinos and win Latinos or most non Latinos.
Speaker 1: You can't starve America and win America. And you can't
Speaker 1: threaten and abuse Jewish voters and win Jewish voters. Anybody
Speaker 1: notice that Trump before the New York election, quote any
Speaker 1: Jewish person that votes for Zorn Mamdani, a proven and
Speaker 1: self professed Jew hater, is a stupid person. Anybody else
Speaker 1: notice the fir guy who claims to be a friend
Speaker 1: to Jews, a protector of the Jewish people, an honorary jew.
Speaker 1: Trump short calls Jewish people quote disloyal and quote ungrateful,
Speaker 1: and quote stupid. A lot one last lesson. You know
Speaker 1: why Mamdani won the messages. Obviously, the actual seven word
Speaker 1: templates all Democrats everywhere should run on your money issues
Speaker 1: and Trump equals death. But the other part is almost
Speaker 1: as simple. He looks and sounds like he's good at this,
Speaker 1: good at campaigning, good at talking to actual people off
Speaker 1: the cuff, good at making government actually do good stuff.
Speaker 1: Obama looked and sounded like that. John F. Kennedy looked
Speaker 1: and sounded like that. Even Trump looked like a dumbed
Speaker 1: down version of that. What bad people think a good
Speaker 1: person looks and sounds like we underrate one word in
Speaker 1: assessing everything in life, but especially in public life, The
Speaker 1: word is good. We delve and analyze and dissect and
Speaker 1: cross tab and chew and punditize and rehash and dive,
Speaker 1: and and we miss the essential. Most people are not
Speaker 1: good at their jobs. Most TV shows are not good.
Speaker 1: Most films are not good. Most street repairs are not good.
Speaker 1: Most food is not good. Not Most people are not
Speaker 1: good at stuff, but especially when that stuff benefits others.
Speaker 1: Charity stuff, public services stuff like the Motor Vehicles Bureau,
Speaker 1: and especially especially government. We're not looking for Christ fresh
Speaker 1: off the cross to go and pave our streets with gold.
Speaker 1: People just want a government that can keep the toilets
Speaker 1: from overflowing. Thank you, Zoron, Mom, Donnie and Mikey, Cheryl
Speaker 1: and Abigail Spanberger. Though I'm watching you, thank you and
Speaker 1: there there it is your mandate. Spread the gospel of
Speaker 1: your money issues and Trump equals death, and Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: keep the toilets from overflowing. Only one other thing I
Speaker 1: really wanted to mention. As you know, Dick Cheney has died.
Speaker 1: There's enough sane washing going on without me adding to it.
Speaker 1: I remember Dick Cheney for, you know, being the architect
Speaker 1: of the plan to exploit nine to eleven as an
Speaker 1: excuse to go into Iraq, which replaced the original Bush plan,
Speaker 1: which was to just do it and say why just cuz.
Speaker 1: I remember Dick Cheney for being named by Bush to
Speaker 1: chair the search committee to select Bush's vice president, and
Speaker 1: Cheney came back and recommended himself. I have found that
Speaker 1: I am the best candidate. And I remember him for
Speaker 1: standing up at what sports people used to call nut
Speaker 1: cutting time for America, Yes or no, capitalist socialist democracy
Speaker 1: or dictatorship. He chose capitalist socialist democracy. Good, finish up strong,
Speaker 1: keep the world safe for people like Dick Cheney and
Speaker 1: me to hate each other. And I remember him for
Speaker 1: what he said in describing my friend Moe Roka when
Speaker 1: Moe Raka hosted the radio and television correspondence Social Siation
Speaker 1: Dinner in DC in April two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: Among his other credits, Moe used to host a TV
Speaker 2: show called Things I Hate About You. I'm sure I've
Speaker 2: seen that program only I believe it's now called Countdown
Speaker 2: with Keith Overman. Keith not here tonight to savor my company.
Speaker 1: But now some people hear that and say that means
Speaker 1: Dick Cheney hated me. And some people hear that and
Speaker 1: say that means Dick Cheney believed I hated him, and
Speaker 1: I say, can't we all get along? Both of those
Speaker 1: mean I pissed Dick Cheney off when he was vice president.
Speaker 1: And that that clip right there, that was when I
Speaker 1: knew my work there was done. Rest in peace, Dick Cheney,
Speaker 1: I guess, because yes, it can be a floor wax
Speaker 1: and a dessert topping. That is what makes America great.
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live reference if you don't get it by now.
Speaker 1: Also of interest here, Winsome Earl Sears lost the race
Speaker 1: for governor of Virginia by fifteen points in a state
Speaker 1: the Republican Party won four years ago this month by
Speaker 1: two points. So I would never metaphorically kick a candidate,
Speaker 1: even a crazy maga lunatic while they're down. Hell, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: She shares worst person honors. That's next. This is an
Speaker 1: all new Landslide edition of Countdown. This is Countdown with
Speaker 1: Keith Olberman still ahead on his all new edition of Countdown.
Speaker 1: There is yet another new committee to nominate and elect
Speaker 1: new members of Baseball's Hall of fame, about which the
Speaker 1: odds are pretty good you care nothing. However, you may
Speaker 1: be entertained by the story of one of the previous committees,
Speaker 1: which once elected at least once elected a new member
Speaker 1: of Baseball's Hall of Fame by accident via something referred
Speaker 1: to as courtesy votes, because they wanted to make one
Speaker 1: of their guys who wasn't quite a Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: feel good, and too many of them decided to vote
Speaker 1: for him to make him feel good, and now he's
Speaker 1: got a plaque at the Hall of Fame. I also
Speaker 1: have thoughts on the actual nominees and the process, and
Speaker 1: what could be done to fix it, and why they
Speaker 1: will never fix it. It's a deliberate choice ahead in
Speaker 1: sports first, believe it or not. There's still more new
Speaker 1: idiots to talk about. The roundup of the miscrants, morons
Speaker 1: and Dunning Krug effect specimens who constitute today's other worst
Speaker 1: persons in the world at the Bronze Laura Lumer. I
Speaker 1: don't know quite how history will look at Laura Lumer.
Speaker 1: I suspect it will be looking at her briefly and soon,
Speaker 1: as in she will soon be history. She's now a
Speaker 1: Pentagon correspondent for I made it up news. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand any of it. She's repulsive, stupid,
Speaker 1: and servile. What I don't understand is why she's not
Speaker 1: vice president. Laura Lumer, though, has now and this is
Speaker 1: a theme for today, has now crossed some sort of
Speaker 1: rubicon in which she is pissing off the people who
Speaker 1: put her where she is. Roger Stone, somehow still alive,
Speaker 1: was her role model and to some degree her mentor.
Speaker 1: And roger Stone something happened that caused him to post this.
Speaker 1: I have never taken a penny to post anything on
Speaker 1: social media. Laura Lumer takes thousands and thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: to front for others and spread their lies. Who is
Speaker 1: paying you? Laura? You won't be able to double talk
Speaker 1: your way out of this. You're not that smart. Answer
Speaker 1: the question who are you? His word not mine? Warring
Speaker 1: for Laura roger Stone three point fifty nine am Jacob
Speaker 1: Marley's ghost came to visit roger Stone and is oddly shaped. Huh.
Speaker 1: And if that were not enough, there is the runner up?
Speaker 1: Were sir? All those in his history who supported Tucker Carlson?
Speaker 1: And we'll just take Ben Shapiro out, because he's the
Speaker 1: latest guy to sit here going I never knew Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson was the devil? My god, where have you people been?
Speaker 1: I'll read this from Oliver Darcy's newsletter The magas civil
Speaker 1: war that erupted last week is showing no signs of
Speaker 1: letting up. On Monday, the Daily Wires, Ben Shapiro dedicated
Speaker 1: his entire show to go scorched Earth on Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: over his decision to host the Holocaust denying white nationalist
Speaker 1: Nick Fuentes for a softball chat halcost denying white nationalists.
Speaker 1: He's an anti Semite. He's called himself an anti Semite.
Speaker 1: He's slime, he's scum. Shapiro slammed Carlson as quote an
Speaker 1: intellectual cower, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and blamed him for Nazism being normalized within the mainstream
Speaker 1: Republican Party. Yeah. And he didn't stop there, Shapiro said.
Speaker 1: Carlson quote was aided, a betted, celebrated for normalizing Nazism
Speaker 1: within the Republican Party by the Heritage Foundation. Quote. The
Speaker 1: issue here is that Tucker Carlson decided to normalize and
Speaker 1: fluff Nick Fuentes, and that the Heritage Foundation then decided
Speaker 1: to robustly defend that performance. Waiter, are you telling me
Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation is corrupt and full of Nazi adjacent people, really,
Speaker 1: and that Tucker Carlson is a dishonest coward? Really? I
Speaker 1: mean Tucker Carlson fired by literally all the cable news
Speaker 1: networks from prominent shows on each one of them in
Speaker 1: a span of less than twenty years after rising to
Speaker 1: the top at all three of them fired not always
Speaker 1: contract ran out, oh oh, Alberman always likes to leave jobs. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: fired like one day there, one day not there. The
Speaker 1: surprise by people like Ben Shapiro, the Ben Shapiro's and
Speaker 1: the Roger Stones and the Donald Trumps and everybody else
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson has not changed your ability to lie to
Speaker 1: yourselves that Tucker Carlson was not this anti semi adjacent
Speaker 1: bastard with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And that maniacal laugh
Speaker 1: of his was not some sort of performance. It was
Speaker 1: the result of something wrong with his brain that has
Speaker 1: always been there. And by the way, is the second
Speaker 1: generation Carlson who is like this. His father was just
Speaker 1: the same way. The problem here, We've already established that
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is slime and scum. The problem here Roger
Speaker 1: Stone with Laura Lumer. The problem here Ben Shapiro with Carlson.
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is you, not him, as I believe it was.
Speaker 1: Marcus aureli has pointed out every day in the world
Speaker 1: you see deceit, dishonesty, retribution, selfishness, vice, corruption, And yet
Speaker 1: you're surprised, at what point does that become your fault?
Speaker 1: Love that, Marcus Aurelius. And still there are two people
Speaker 1: who are worse who share today's worst persons in the
Speaker 1: World Championship. A guy named Charlie Hurt, who appears on
Speaker 1: Fox News as a sometimes host. He was started his
Speaker 1: career in journal so to speak, as a scab during
Speaker 1: the Detroit Times strike of nineteen ninety five, and later worse.
Speaker 1: He was the DC editor of the New York Post
Speaker 1: and an early Trumpist, and he was interviewing Winsome Earl Sears,
Speaker 1: the Republican candidate for governor of Virginia, the woman who
Speaker 1: laughed at the idea that because she was anti LG TBq,
Speaker 1: that this was some sort of prejudice on her part
Speaker 1: and just said, it's not prejudice, it's reality. I mean,
Speaker 1: not a stable not of this earth. This woman winsome
Speaker 1: Earl Series and they share the award because Charlie Hurt
Speaker 1: The nice thing again, I suppose I shouldn't really come
Speaker 1: down so hard on Ben Shapiro and Rogerstone, because the
Speaker 1: nice thing is to see the look of shock on
Speaker 1: the face of the people who realize that these really
Speaker 1: dangerous and bigoted individuals that they have supported are both
Speaker 1: dangerous and bigoted. And boy, oh boy, Charlie Hurt sure
Speaker 1: revealed himself and win some Earl Sears sure revealed herself
Speaker 1: in this interview. You should look it up. You should
Speaker 1: watch the video. It's really bad. It's so bad that
Speaker 1: it would not get applause from Trump. Charlie Hurt said,
Speaker 1: we did go through years of lectures about how it
Speaker 1: was important to vote for Barack Obama as this historic
Speaker 1: black candidate for him to have an opportunity to help
Speaker 1: out the first black female governor. Explain to me, he said,
Speaker 1: to win some Earl Sears. I can't square this. The
Speaker 1: gist of what he was saying was he could not
Speaker 1: understand why Barack Obama did not support the Republican nutjob
Speaker 1: wins Earl Sears merely because she was black, and she
Speaker 1: of course agreed with this. Last year, she said, he
Speaker 1: told everybody to vote for the black woman. Well here
Speaker 1: I here, I am, and now he's singing a different tune.
Speaker 1: Hypocrisy all the way. The fundamental issue, of course, was
Speaker 1: that there needed to be some diversity within a party
Speaker 1: and among candidates. But you shouldn't have voted for Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: and he said as much if you did not agree
Speaker 1: with at least most of the ideas that he stood for.
Speaker 1: This seems to have eluded Winsome Earl Sears, along with
Speaker 1: most of the rest of life here on this dimension,
Speaker 1: And it seems to have eluded Charlie Hurt, who thinks
Speaker 1: that everybody voted for Obama because he was black. So
Speaker 1: by that logic, Winsome Earl Sears, you voted for Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris last year and this guy Hurt, the Detroit Times guy,
Speaker 1: he voted for Abigail Spanber in the Virginia race because
Speaker 1: he and Spanberger are both white. Is that what you're
Speaker 1: telling me, win Some Earl Sears, moron Charlie Hurt scab
Speaker 1: two days worst persons. Wait to hear this baseball story
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 3: This is Sports Senate. Wait, check that not anymore. This
Speaker 3: is Countdown with Keith Ulberman in Sportsball Center tonight. You
Speaker 3: heard the phrase inside baseball, I mean used in a
Speaker 3: non baseball context, inside baseball. It comes from baseball. It's
Speaker 3: about stuff that's so inside the game, so meaningful only
Speaker 3: to people who really follow it that it tends to
Speaker 3: be a little arcane or boring for people who do
Speaker 3: not follow baseball intently. However, I do have one hook
Speaker 3: that may interest you in the subject of the latest
Speaker 3: Baseball Hall of Fame Veteran's ballot. They've nominated eight fairly
Speaker 3: recent players, players whose careers began or prominence began anyway
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty or later. For me, those are my friends.
Speaker 3: For you, they may be figures from base ball's ancient
Speaker 3: past who might as well have played in eighteen sixty six. Nevertheless,
Speaker 3: I always think of the same story whenever a new
Speaker 3: veterans committee gets together to try to decide who is
Speaker 3: a Baseball Hall of Famer and who is not. In
Speaker 3: the seventies and eighties, there was one committee the Veterans
Speaker 3: Committee that included some of the great luminaries of the
Speaker 3: gink game, including Ted Williams, who used to vote on
Speaker 3: who else got into the Hall of Fame besides him.
Speaker 3: And one of the things Ted Williams did constantly was
Speaker 3: vote for his friends, vote for those few players that
Speaker 3: he had personal respect for who tended to be pitchers
Speaker 3: who were able to get him out. He four years
Speaker 3: voted annually for a pitcher from Cleveland named mel Harder,
Speaker 3: who pitched for twenty years and then was a very
Speaker 3: successful pitching coach, but whose lifetime record was about five hundred.
Speaker 3: He won as many as he lost. There was anything
Speaker 3: exceptional about his strikeout tos or his modern day subtle statistics,
Speaker 3: or his game result statistics, or any of the metrics
Speaker 3: that are used to assess pictures today. But Ted Williams
Speaker 3: couldn't get a hit off of him to save his life.
Speaker 3: And therefore, to Ted Williams, that made mel Haarder a
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. But the other thing that Ted Williams did,
Speaker 3: and many of his contemporaries on the old Veterans Committee,
Speaker 3: and this is a legend more than it is a
Speaker 3: factually documented story, but I believe after forty years or
Speaker 3: fifty years of hearing this story, I believe it is true.
Speaker 3: They also, besides constantly having to tamp down Ted's enthusiasm
Speaker 3: for otherwise obscure players he just wasn't any good against,
Speaker 3: they had to keep him from doing what he liked
Speaker 3: to do, which was to throw a vote to those
Speaker 3: friends who he didn't really think were Hall of famers,
Speaker 3: but he wanted them to know somebody voted for them.
Speaker 3: These were called courtesy votes, And here after year, somebody
Speaker 3: on the Hall of Fame Veterans Committee would issue a
Speaker 3: courtesy vote for a long time catcher and Detroit Tigers
Speaker 3: executive named Rick Ferrell, supposedly one of the true gentlemen
Speaker 3: of the game and a player who I believe lasted
Speaker 3: eighteen years as a catcher in the American League, even
Speaker 3: though I think he only played in one hundred games
Speaker 3: in the one hundred and fifty four game schedule of
Speaker 3: the time once or twice in his life. He was
Speaker 3: sort of a regular player, but not really and he
Speaker 3: certainly was not an All Star, and he certainly was
Speaker 3: not a Hall of Famer. And every year Ted Williams
Speaker 3: would say to his friends on the committee. All right,
Speaker 3: who's casting the courtesy vote for Rick Ferrell? Or let's
Speaker 3: get Rick three votes this year when I guess whatever
Speaker 3: six or seven were needed for election, and inevitably, I guess,
Speaker 3: given the amount of alcohol that might have been consumed
Speaker 3: at these annual meetings and the Hall of Fame voters.
Speaker 3: The baseballs don't meet, They just mail in ballots. But
Speaker 3: the members of the Veterans Committee used to meet in person,
Speaker 3: usually in Florida, usually starting at lunch with alcohol and
Speaker 3: concluding sometime after dinner with alcohol. They would get together
Speaker 3: and then they would vote, and people would forget what
Speaker 3: they were supposed to vote and who they were supposed
Speaker 3: to vote for. And there came the announcement that if say,
Speaker 3: the threshold for votes for election for anybody that year
Speaker 3: was seven votes, there it was Rick Ferrell eight votes.
Speaker 1: Look him up. Rick Ferrell is in the Baseball Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Supposedly, that is how a great and very
Speaker 1: popular but not quite Hall of Fame shortstop named Rabbit
Speaker 1: Moranville got into the Hall of Fame. But I don't
Speaker 1: have many details about that. The Rick Ferrell story I
Speaker 1: have from one witness who says what he remembers of
Speaker 1: that rather sauced evening consisted of what I just told you.
Speaker 1: So anytime there is an announcement that there's going to
Speaker 1: be a committee meeting to vote to elect new Hall
Speaker 1: of famers, I keep thinking somebody's going to get in
Speaker 1: by accident. Again. Yes, there it was the other day
Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame announcing that it was going
Speaker 1: to conduct another committee. Yet another variation. This is the
Speaker 1: Golden Age since the eighties vote, and the next year
Speaker 1: will be the seventeenth century vote, and then the year
Speaker 1: after that will be the people whose names start with
Speaker 1: the letter Q vote. It's so stupid, complicated, inconsistent. It
Speaker 1: gets changed every couple of years. And of course the
Speaker 1: reason they do that is otherwise no one would be
Speaker 1: have any interest whatsoever in the Hall of Fame vote.
Speaker 1: The controversy is about who's in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: and who's not in the Hall of Fame will never
Speaker 1: be resolved because they managed to keep you talking about it.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it now. I happen to be talking
Speaker 1: about something a little bit more again arcane, but I'm
Speaker 1: still talking about it. And if they had perfected which
Speaker 1: would probably be easily done a system for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame that would satisfy everybody. People would stop arguing
Speaker 1: about it. They just say, well, the system produces x
Speaker 1: number of Hall of Famers every year or people with
Speaker 1: these kind of credentials. Yay, that's the way they do it.
Speaker 1: In Japan, there is a statistical Hall of Fame. If
Speaker 1: you get I don't know what the total is, three
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five home runs, you are in the
Speaker 1: statistical Hall of Fame and automatically in the general Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and they are permitted to elect additional people
Speaker 1: who don't meet those criteria statistically to the general Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, but there is an automatic threshold Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: One of my ideas that again would defeat the whole
Speaker 1: purpose of the controversy, would be to have a four
Speaker 1: tiered Hall of Fame. You'd have that statistical Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame in which I guess, if you hit six hundred homers,
Speaker 1: you're in, and then they're It would be the all
Speaker 1: time greats, the immortals, the Babe Ruths, the I guess
Speaker 1: we're expecting Shoho Tani, but not quite yet. Folks like that.
Speaker 1: Henry Aaron, Roberto Clemente. Then there'd be a second tier,
Speaker 1: or a third tier in this case for players who
Speaker 1: were unable for whatever reason to complete their careers or
Speaker 1: their expected careers. Pictures like Sandy Kofax, who retired at
Speaker 1: age thirty because doctors said, the next pitch might not
Speaker 1: only be your last, but you may use your arm
Speaker 1: for the last time throwing that pitch. You may literally
Speaker 1: not be able to use your arm for anything. All
Speaker 1: the nerves may be dead. And he went, I'm going
Speaker 1: to quit, and he did, and his records do not
Speaker 1: His compilation records do not match that of far lesser pitchers,
Speaker 1: although he is considered perhaps the greatest five season pitcher
Speaker 1: of all time. But you could have a category of
Speaker 1: Hall of famers who only had five great years for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. The late catcher of the New York Yankees,
Speaker 1: Thrman Munson, could fit into that because he died in
Speaker 1: the middle of his eleventh season in Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: and never fulfilled or went downhill from there because he
Speaker 1: was not alive to do so. The last category of
Speaker 1: our four tier Hall of Fame would be everybody else
Speaker 1: whose statistical performance is such that they should be in
Speaker 1: the Hall of fame, but had some sort of blemish
Speaker 1: in their personal conduct, Pete Rose gambling the problem with
Speaker 1: underage dating, which I think we have to call it
Speaker 1: that legally, although it's probably closer to pedophilia Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: As I said, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, the steroid users
Speaker 1: of the late nineteen nineties and early two thousands, Shoolish
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson and the other members of the nineteen nineteen
Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox who were involved in a plot to
Speaker 1: throw the World Series that year. Some of them may
Speaker 1: have thrown the World Series, and some of them may
Speaker 1: have not thrown the World Series. Almost all of them
Speaker 1: got money to do. So you could put them all
Speaker 1: in there and they could be I don't know, in
Speaker 1: a room that isn't totally lit, or they could have
Speaker 1: bad portraits of themselves, or like I don't know, a
Speaker 1: sound of booing being piped into the room in which
Speaker 1: their plaques would remain for eternity. But you would say,
Speaker 1: all right, Pete Rose is in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: flawed human being who, oh, by the way, got more
Speaker 1: hits than anybody else. So that's the solution, And of
Speaker 1: course it will never be done because it would eliminate
Speaker 1: most of the arguments, and then we wouldn't have these conversations.
Speaker 1: But back to the original point, I wanted to discuss
Speaker 1: the qualifications of these eight guys again. This sorting out.
Speaker 1: This latest category is players who achieved prominence in the
Speaker 1: game after nineteen eighty, not owners, not managers players. This
Speaker 1: is just on the field stuff. There'll be an owner
Speaker 1: manager vote later seventy years from now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've completely lost the plot on what they are doing
Speaker 1: to elect people to the Hall of Fame. Okay, here
Speaker 1: are the nominees. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are on
Speaker 1: the list. All that is needed from this committee is
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the vote and they are in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame despite everything that happened. And there's
Speaker 1: no tiered structure now, so the plaque for Barry Bonds
Speaker 1: probably would not say his head grew bigger at the
Speaker 1: age of thirty three, even though that's physically impossible unless
Speaker 1: you're doing human growth hormone. It probably wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1: So he could get into the Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: somebody might be planning to cast a courtesy vote for
Speaker 1: him right now, So Bonds and Clemens are there. Gary Sheffield,
Speaker 1: who also at times faced accusations of deliberately throwing away
Speaker 1: baseballs in protest to how his team was treating him
Speaker 1: and deliberately using performance enhancing drugs, although nothing I believe
Speaker 1: in Sheffield's case was ever proved. Jeff Kent, a great
Speaker 1: second baseman, considered to be a jackass generally speaking. Dale Murphy,
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of that two time Most Valuable Player
Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Braves, one of the most beloved figures
Speaker 1: in sports anywhere in the last half century, and a
Speaker 1: man who, after I believe, the first of those MVP awards,
Speaker 1: the moment the season ended, got on a plane and
Speaker 1: went to Florida to play in the Instructional League because
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing well enough the last month of the season.
Speaker 1: I have asked Dale Murphy about this, a man I
Speaker 1: have had the pleasure of knowing since the early eighties,
Speaker 1: and he then says, well, to be fair, I'd had
Speaker 1: a very bad finish to the season and I was
Speaker 1: a little hurt. I needed basically to do some rehab
Speaker 1: and get my swing back. And I said, I don't
Speaker 1: care why you were there. Nobody else in the history
Speaker 1: of baseball has ever won the Most Valuable Player award
Speaker 1: and then gone to the instructional league to work on
Speaker 1: things to get better for the next year. So Murphy
Speaker 1: is on that list, along with Carlos Delgado, who was
Speaker 1: a good and power hitting catcher and first basement for
Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays and the New York Mets. Don Mattingley,
Speaker 1: who once again does not have a Hall of Fame ring,
Speaker 1: even as a coach with the Toronto Blue Jays, and
Speaker 1: the less I say about that probably the better. But
Speaker 1: Don Mattingley, longtime first baseman for the Yankees, limited in
Speaker 1: particular power numbers later on in his career because of
Speaker 1: a bad back. In my Hall of Fame, he would
Speaker 1: get in in the limited career category. He would be
Speaker 1: in those guys who did not do what they might
Speaker 1: have done. He might be next to Addie Joss, the
Speaker 1: great Cleveland pitcher of the early nineteen hundreds. Go and
Speaker 1: look him up to see why. And then the eighth
Speaker 1: nominee Fernando Valezuela, the legendary pitcher of the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Dodgers who set LA a flame in nineteen eighty one
Speaker 1: in a good sense when not expected to make the
Speaker 1: Dodgers starting rotation, he wound up pitching Opening Day and
Speaker 1: throwing a string of shutouts and creating Fernando Mania and
Speaker 1: actually introducing almost for the first time, the Hispanic Latino
Speaker 1: crowd to the Dodgers. The Dodgers were not the darlings
Speaker 1: of that audience until Fernando Valezuela came along, and Mexican
Speaker 1: baseball players were not largely recruited or sought in Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball until Fernando Valenzuela. The problem is, as with mattingly,
Speaker 1: that there were limitations. Fernando Valenzuela was a great pitcher
Speaker 1: for three or four years, and then he began a
Speaker 1: rather rapid decline that was hastened by injuries and by eating.
Speaker 1: And he hung on for six or seven years, during
Speaker 1: which he dropped down to mediocrity and getting released twice
Speaker 1: or three times year. And yet he is a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame nominee. There is a statistic that baseball people
Speaker 1: use with varying degrees of confidence in it, called wins
Speaker 1: above replacement war. It is a complicated formula that tries
Speaker 1: to take in everything from a player's natural talent to
Speaker 1: how he did and how that was influenced by how
Speaker 1: his home ballpark fit him as opposed to not fitting
Speaker 1: other players, and what he did relative to the seasons
Speaker 1: in which he played, which I think is a valuable barometer.
Speaker 1: It comes up with one large number which can be
Speaker 1: added to if you play twenty five years instead of twelve,
Speaker 1: but which gives you Although I don't think I would
Speaker 1: sign on to it as the only arbiter for who's
Speaker 1: better than whom, it does give you relative statistics. For instance,
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds's war is one hundred and sixty two point eight,
Speaker 1: Roger Clemens is one hundred and thirty nine point two.
Speaker 1: Next on the ballot is Gary Sheffield sixty point five.
Speaker 1: So Gary Sheffield, the third highest war among these eight
Speaker 1: nominees is less than half of the second nominee, and
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit better than a third of
Speaker 1: the first nominee. Jeff Kent fifty five point four, Dale
Speaker 1: Murphy forty six point five, Delgado forty four point four,
Speaker 1: Mattingly forty two point four, and Balezuela eighth at forty
Speaker 1: one point four. I think among all of these I
Speaker 1: would not and could not still under these circumstances, vote
Speaker 1: for Barry Bonds or for Roger Clemens. I cannot do it.
Speaker 1: I do not know how much of their careers owes
Speaker 1: to performance enhancing drugs. I do know that they made
Speaker 1: a decision to go and use them, and like the
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer or would be Hall of Famer shoeless
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, no matter what you were when you made
Speaker 1: that decision to do something morally bankrupt, you made the
Speaker 1: decision to do something morally bankrupt. You do not get
Speaker 1: credit for the time you were not morally bankrupt yet
Speaker 1: kind of forfeit it. You only get one moral bankruptcy
Speaker 1: assessment unless you decided to come clean at the end
Speaker 1: and ask for forgiveness. And we have not heard that
Speaker 1: from Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens. I suspect if either
Speaker 1: of them had at any point said yes, I use
Speaker 1: these drugs, I was wrong. It threw the balance of
Speaker 1: the game out of whack for the entirety of my career,
Speaker 1: and I hope nobody ever does them again. If they
Speaker 1: had done that, I think they probably would have gotten
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame legitimately and quickly, and could
Speaker 1: still do that. But there is one thing about being
Speaker 1: a competitor like those two men. That makes that impossible.
Speaker 1: They could not do that. I would vote even though
Speaker 1: he is literally one quarter of the War of Barry Bonds.
Speaker 1: I would vote for Dale Murphy. This is why I
Speaker 1: don't have a vote for all my analysis, and I
Speaker 1: think my baseball historian skills are comparable to almost anybody.
Speaker 1: I do have personal prejudices. I've always been delighted to
Speaker 1: see Dale Murphy, and I'd like to see him in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But if you are saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're not going to count character, We're not going to
Speaker 1: make that an issue. We're going to put Bonds and
Speaker 1: Clemens on the ballot, Well, maybe maybe there should be
Speaker 1: some extra credit given to the good guys of the game,
Speaker 1: like Murphy. Maybe Murphy should be in the war the
Speaker 1: wins above replacement of ethics. Maybe he should be credited
Speaker 1: with forty points. What I found most interesting among all
Speaker 1: of these And no, I would not vote for Mattingly,
Speaker 1: even though I've known him forever and he and I
Speaker 1: have one running joke that dates to the mid nineties.
Speaker 1: If you can imagine such a thing, I would not
Speaker 1: vote for Mattingly under these circumstances. Although I would welcome
Speaker 1: him into a tiered Hall of Fame, I would also
Speaker 1: not vote for Valezuela. Again, the same thing. If you're
Speaker 1: going to have part of the Hall of Fame in
Speaker 1: which a guy is the biggest figure in baseball and
Speaker 1: changes the sport in one community for a while, yes
Speaker 1: I could see it, but that's not the rules right now.
Speaker 1: And again, if we're going to put in Valenzuela, we're
Speaker 1: going to put in Mattingly, We're going to put in
Speaker 1: tim Linsecom, We're going to put in Buster your posey.
Speaker 1: We're going to put in a lot of guys who
Speaker 1: really don't have Hall of Fame careers but had Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame five year spans. And again, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of space in Cooperstown, New York. As they said in
Speaker 1: a somewhat flawed movie in which a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Josh Charles, appeared, called Cooperstown. It's a rural area. There's
Speaker 1: lots of extra space in Cooperstown. Well, you could add
Speaker 1: one hundred or two hundred Hall of famers and not
Speaker 1: really have to knock any other buildings down. Why not,
Speaker 1: why not have more Hall of Famers? Why not let
Speaker 1: these guys charge more for their autographs. Why not say
Speaker 1: we don't have just three hundred or four hundred Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, we have five hundred Hall of Fame players.
Speaker 1: What's the difference. So I'd like a big Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: But until we have a big Hall of Fame, I
Speaker 1: can't vote for Fernando and I can't vote for Don Mattingly.
Speaker 1: No on Carlos Delgado, No on Jeff Kent a good
Speaker 1: second basement but not a great one, and no on
Speaker 1: Gary Sheffield, in part because there are two guys of
Speaker 1: this era who are not nominated who I would actually
Speaker 1: have as my second and third votes. Dwight Evans had
Speaker 1: the best outfield arm I ever saw until the time
Speaker 1: of Eachiro Suzuki. His war sixty seven point two would
Speaker 1: place him third on this list, and Keith Hernandez, the
Speaker 1: first basement of the New York Mets and now their
Speaker 1: commentator and first basement of the Saint Louis Cardinals, had
Speaker 1: a war of sixty point four, which would put him
Speaker 1: him right behind the number three guy on this list,
Speaker 1: Gary Sheffield, at sixty point five. Keith Hernandez was the
Speaker 1: most impressive and the most aggressive defensive player I have
Speaker 1: ever seen. He played first base the way a really
Speaker 1: talented safety played safety in the National Football League, or
Speaker 1: the way a pass rusher a linebacker like Dick Butkus
Speaker 1: played that position in the National Football League, or the
Speaker 1: way a good goaltender plays it in hockey. He said,
Speaker 1: let me stop the offense. And he was a very
Speaker 1: good hitter as well, and one time MVP of the
Speaker 1: National League. So that's the way I would do it.
Speaker 1: But of course, as I said, if they were to
Speaker 1: adopt my plans, which I have been proposing more or
Speaker 1: less continuously since. Let me check my notes here. The
Speaker 1: first article I wrote about redoing the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: vote was in oh nineteen a one. Oh no, that's
Speaker 1: not the first one. I wrote one in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: eight when Dale Murphy was a rookie. They still haven't
Speaker 1: gotten around to approving it. In fact, every time they
Speaker 1: talk about changes in the Hall of Fame, I don't
Speaker 1: even get a goddamn courtesy vote. I do like that
Speaker 1: idea of having the Hall of Fame, though with a
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens steroid era place, with Mark McGuire
Speaker 1: and Pete Rose in it. Joe Jackson and a lot
Speaker 1: of the other players who were thrown out of the
Speaker 1: game for gambling and other nefarious acts. I like that,
Speaker 1: and you keep the lights low, and you know, if
Speaker 1: you really want to go in there, you have to,
Speaker 1: like rent a flashlight. I think I'm onto something here.
Speaker 1: Could be the decline of my own mental faculties, but
Speaker 1: I'm onto something. I've done all the damage I can
Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. Most of our Countdown
Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced, and performed by Brian Ray and
Speaker 1: John Phillip Shaneil our musical directors have Countdown. It was
Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Ray was on the guitars, bass,
Speaker 1: and drums, and mister Shanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. You know,
Speaker 1: you could put the designated hitters in the limited career
Speaker 1: category two because they're not actually Hall of famers because
Speaker 1: they don't play defense. I'll do a commentary about that sometime, GI,
Speaker 1: just of it being in the old days, somebody who
Speaker 1: fielded so badly that he could not have been a
Speaker 1: regular hitter, wasn't a regular hitter and usually wasn't in
Speaker 1: the major leagues. How many guys made it to the
Speaker 1: major leagues and now to the Hall of Fame because
Speaker 1: they instituted this rule, who otherwise would have spent their years,
Speaker 1: their lives playing for Salt Lake City of the Pacific
Speaker 1: Coast League. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Our
Speaker 1: satirical on fifthy musical comments are by the best baseball
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Speaker 1: group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today is my friend
Speaker 1: Mariner Kenny Main, who will vote for anybody from Seattle.
Speaker 1: Everything else was, as always my fault. That's countdown for today,
Speaker 1: Day two hundred and ninety one of America held hostage
Speaker 1: again and just seventy two days until the scheduled end
Speaker 1: of his lame duck and lame brain term unless he
Speaker 1: is removed sooner by MAGA and Jeffrey Epstein and the
Speaker 1: pavement patch on his hand or tail and hall, or
Speaker 1: the jet made out of poop, or his next scheduled
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's test. The next scheduled countdown is Monday. Until then,
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