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Speaker 2: We're going to start to show we need to start

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Speaker 1: Well we're starting, you know, micing. Just tell everybody.

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Speaker 3: Welcome the eyes of here.

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Speaker 1: Not here with your special over with your special gime.

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Speaker 1: No over here. Yeah they're over here, but you have

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Speaker 3: It's backwards. I have two cameras on this thing. I

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Speaker 3: so I need to remember which.

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Speaker 4: One two cameras. Your two camera set up. You're like,

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Speaker 4: you are a professial.

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Speaker 1: How are you? It's been a hot minute since I've

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Speaker 1: seen you. What's going on? Fuck?

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Speaker 3: How I am? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You know I'm living onto? Yeah? Did I show

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Speaker 1: you the picture? Did I send you the picture? Did

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Speaker 1: you love it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's funny.

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Speaker 4: Every guy that I've showed that picture to is like cringey,

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Speaker 4: and then the girls are like, oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: and the guys are like, oh my god, I can't look.

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Speaker 1: It's so disgusting.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: Was pretty bad.

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Speaker 4: It was my stomach. It was my stomach. I saw

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Speaker 4: the doctor yesterday. I saw my doctor, and he just

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Speaker 4: thinks it's going to take time. This will probably take

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Speaker 1: Look at that. Oh did you see that? Do you

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Speaker 4: You're flexing while I'm telling you my my doctor visiting. Okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, so forget about me. I want to know

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Speaker 4: about you.

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Speaker 1: What are you up to?

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Speaker 3: What are you?

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Speaker 1: I love him? What are you up to? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I saw you?

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Speaker 4: Now, come on, now, I saw you. When did I

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Speaker 4: see you last? Where were we?

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Speaker 3: Well? You should be scarred in your mind, so.

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Speaker 4: Now I should I should remember these things. I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: We were at some convention. I know you were just

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Speaker 3: Ever down in Jersey.

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Speaker 1: It was it was Oh god, that was November, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: That was a while ago?

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Speaker 3: Was it maybe?

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Speaker 1: Or was it? Was it reuse? This is a riveting

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Speaker 1: conversation for everyone. Yes, was it Monroe New Jersey who

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Speaker 1: trained him?

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Speaker 3: Dominamin? That's what he pret dominate in you sitting at

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Speaker 3: the end of the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that was a while ago. So what have

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No working, no working.

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Speaker 3: I have one match coming up February first for Excite

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're you're working working with once?

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Speaker 4: Oh are you excited about it yet?

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Speaker 3: Where I get like whoop? Then I give the treadmill

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Speaker 3: and after like an hour, like the was I thinking.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you're going over or what? What are

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Speaker 3: It's for the championship, so I hope not.

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Speaker 4: Then you're gonna have to like go back every month

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Speaker 1: You're going to be exhausted. I want to know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know much about this, so I wanted to

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Speaker 4: ask you how did your school come about? And tell

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Speaker 1: People might not know this about you. So I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm like a soccer club president and I'm like helping

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Speaker 3: the girl scouts.

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Speaker 3: I just asked too much.

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Speaker 4: Now this is where I get hot at you because

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Speaker 1: And now this is what people want to know. What

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Speaker 4: I talk about my kids and I went to the store,

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Speaker 4: and they need to know what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: We need to do today. I woke up. My dog

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Speaker 1: Oh so, no girl scouts today. Soccer.

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Speaker 3: We're preparing because there's a big cookie rally thing that

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Speaker 3: I have to be available.

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Speaker 4: If I was you, I would eat all the samoas.

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Speaker 4: There would be no samoas left.

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Speaker 3: Called Samoas Caramel Delights.

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Speaker 4: Now they changed And that's how long I've eaten a cookie.

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Speaker 4: But I would eat every box of those. They are

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Speaker 3: they changed it because samoan is racist.

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Speaker 1: it called the samoa though or something? Oh? They were

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty boxes of Girls Cookies sitting in

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Speaker 4: No, no, that are actually yours from your five children. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's wonderful, that's amazing. It was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just want to sell these cookies? Are

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Speaker 3: My wife is the leader a manager, And I just

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Speaker 3: go yes, yes, dear, Okay, I love it for cookies.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Do you sit outside with a gimmick table and sell

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Speaker 3: It does bring that back because every time somebody walks out,

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Speaker 3: thank you. Anyway, would you like to buy some girls

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Speaker 1: Just put it on loop when a recording device, like the.

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Speaker 3: People that pissed me off of the rude people, right,

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Speaker 3: just like ignore them like they're annoying. I was like,

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Speaker 3: 's bitch, turn the funk around, thank.

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Speaker 1: You because they're little kids. They're little girls like six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I think that's great.

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Speaker 3: I love that it's not my f fat with diabetes.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, the cookies. You're so loving and gentle.

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Speaker 1: I love, I love. I would never think.

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Speaker 4: That Mikey would be like this girl scout father, like I.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get let's give back to your school.

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Speaker 4: What so what year did you start? And like who

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Speaker 3: Like two nineteen nine, two thousand, so we.

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Speaker 1: Were still working. Oh now when did you leave us?

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Speaker 3: Ninety ended ninety eight?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I was just on vacation. That

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Speaker 3: You took three grand week.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame you one bit.

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Speaker 4: Everybody so everybody always says, are you mad at all

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Speaker 4: the guys who left? I'm like, no, they were getting paid,

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Speaker 4: So why would I be mad?

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Speaker 4: I mean I missed. I missed everybody when they left,

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Speaker 4: but I understood.

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Speaker 3: My body was getting so bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three grand a week, I mean, come on.

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Speaker 3: It was like, what am I even gonna think about this?

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Speaker 3: I did think about it, and.

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Speaker 1: You said yes right away. You didn't have to think

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: So school so ninety nine, two thousand and you want

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Speaker 1: Okay? And who did you pair up with for this polaria?

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Speaker 3: personal issues so I stopped that around two thousand and one,

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Speaker 4: And who came through your training facility that we would know.

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Speaker 3: Red Hurt Hawkins, Night Writer, Tremperetta. That's awesome. You have

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Speaker 3: a lot of dorms in Japan, that Trinity bitch Okay,

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Speaker 1: That's a good One's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of success Reynolds, Tony Niece, Stockade, So a bunch of.

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Speaker 4: People, Yeah, a lot of them got signed and went

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Speaker 3: You're welcome guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know, I I know curtain Zach always

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Speaker 4: Ones that count are the ones that are still around. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I totally get it. So you you stopped with the

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Speaker 3: It's just too much. There's just way too much.

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Speaker 1: Your body, my body.

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Speaker 3: It got to the point where I couldn't really I

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Speaker 3: can see some chaine, I could teach some basic day takedowns.

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Speaker 3: I could show me hiptos maybe once mm hmm. And

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Speaker 3: so not have to somebody more advanced come in and

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Speaker 4: Do you think it's because of the way, I guess

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Speaker 4: just starting out and doing it. And now it's just

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Speaker 1: Does this make sense? Or is it just a spot show?

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Speaker 1: Like do you feel like.

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Speaker 3: It's it's different and because you just don't have a

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Speaker 1: I always I mean, I know, you know I never

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Speaker 4: But I always felt bad for you and the boys

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Speaker 3: Everyone never dished about anything with Spike. He just gave zero.

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Speaker 3: He would say he goes, he goes, Tas and Perry

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you you were fun like I hung out

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Speaker 1: I and I fell in love with it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then by the end of the trip, I was like,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you were I mean, besides all the bullsheit

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Speaker 3: We hung out like you know, Taz and Perry. They

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Speaker 3: You need to be on these motherfuckers. You need to

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Speaker 3: get these green kids. You need to to fucking show

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Speaker 3: them how it is, put them in their place and

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Speaker 3: It was fucking I hated it. I know. I think

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Speaker 1: To treat him on I don't think anybody hates you.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like we hung out so

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Speaker 4: many times. Mikey saved me from I think alcohol poison anymore.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And I remember now that you refreshed my memory. I

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Speaker 4: remember I don't remember where we were, but apparently we

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Speaker 3: Where were we It was somewhere? And was it.

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Speaker 4: I K yeah, like I wasn't, but you know, I

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Speaker 4: wasn't really, I wasn't a partier, Like I wasn't in

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Speaker 3: It before the pay per view?

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Speaker 1: Oh good lord?

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Speaker 3: Was it that first?

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Speaker 1: Then I was nervous. That's probably why I did it.

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Speaker 4: And then Mikey's like, remember that time I held your hair?

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Speaker 3: I was like, I mean we can go into detail,

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Speaker 1: How did you end up taking care of me? Nobody

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Speaker 1: else wanted to.

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Speaker 3: I was the least drunk.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: I remember you now you refreshed my memory, but I

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Speaker 4: don't remember where we were.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what what the celebration was.

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Speaker 4: But no, all right, well yeah we do, we do,

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Speaker 4: but it's text me, text me what you want to

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Speaker 4: tell me.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it when we're done. Okay, we'll come back.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I uh to the hotel and she's still alive.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, Well he helped me.

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Speaker 1: I threw off a lot. I know that, SOE was nervous.

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Speaker 1: He was for me. I don't even remember being there.

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Speaker 1: See this is that. Oh I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to talk again because you didn't go

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Speaker 4: into detail the last time. But I thought about it

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, yeah, I do remember getting sick

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Speaker 4: and I remember just say Thanky, Mikey, thank you by

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Speaker 4: everybody has there an asshole.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. Like you were you were

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Speaker 1: always a front of mine.

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Speaker 4: So I don't I don't know why people get these

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Speaker 4: bum raps all. I think the E c W crew

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Speaker 1: Yes, well that's what we were talking about.

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Speaker 4: I said about the Patriot and I was like, I

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Speaker 4: thought we were over And Mikey's like, maybe we're not.

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Speaker 3: We're not.

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Speaker 1: We're done?

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Speaker 3: Are really we're over enough that people like to talk

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Speaker 3: to us. We're not over enough to go beyond that point.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm, well I I disagree. So all the people who

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Speaker 4: are booking me, don't worry. I will draw you money.

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Speaker 1: That's because you have this attitude. You have to think

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Speaker 1: you're a winner. If you think you're a loser.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to draw for years.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to switch that around. I'm trying to be

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Speaker 1: your motivation. Well are you with me in March? Are

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Speaker 1: you booked for Bobby Phlon No? Oh Jesus, Okay, Well

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to get you on some stuff because

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Speaker 1: I like to have all my friends there.

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Speaker 3: I think WrestleMania is the next thing him doing, so

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Speaker 3: I think, so.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, Well I will see there.

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Speaker 2: Hey Mikey, before you go, I want to say one thing.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember in Richmond two years ago. Down at

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the uh he.

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Speaker 3: Was drinking course lines and I was drinking about.

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Speaker 1: But it was funny, like it was.

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Speaker 2: a funny little thing because I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: how you doing.

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Speaker 3: You can start off a little like the fuck am

448
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Speaker 3: I gonna say this guy like you know a fancies

449
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Speaker 3: Eric Bischoff and they can have a million fucking questions

450
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Speaker 3: for him? Right? How was it working with Hogan? How

451
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: was this? How was it? You know what I mean?

452
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Speaker 3: I've seen his as my old boss, and I'm like, dude,

453
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Speaker 3: you didn't do shit with me.

454
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Speaker 1: Why didn't you push me?

455
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Speaker 3: You know?

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

457
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Speaker 3: But and and talking with him and talking with him

458
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Speaker 3: since at that time when I came in, that place

459
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Speaker 3: was a fucking giant ship show. You can kind of

460
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Speaker 3: see the cracks forming on the outside, you know, how

461
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: kind of the creative was getting shitty. But once you

462
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Speaker 3: were inside like their ship. He was telling me that

463
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Speaker 3: even I didn't know like about all this ship with

464
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Speaker 3: the merger with time water and nail w and this

465
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Speaker 3: and and it was a fucking mess. So honestly he

466
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Speaker 3: had I don't think he knew I was even there.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, that's crazy.

468
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Speaker 3: But like I said, but on his podcast, since like

469
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Speaker 3: he watched, they did a watch along with like unsensited

470
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Speaker 3: when I worked with kid in that one time and

471
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Speaker 3: everything else he has said, he goes, we really dropped

472
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Speaker 3: the ball with Mikey.

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Speaker 1: We should have That's nice. It ended up being.

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Speaker 2: It ended up being a nice little conversation, but it

475
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Speaker 2: was it was kind of funny. And then you guys

476
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Speaker 2: orchestrated a little little Twitter spat that was his insistence,

477
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Speaker 2: which is kind of funny.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those I had. I knew

479
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Speaker 3: what happened to me when I was in WW or

480
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Speaker 3: what didn't happen, And he kind of really didn't know either.

481
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Speaker 3: But it was good picking his brain and getting his

482
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Speaker 3: take on what was going on at that time to

483
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Speaker 3: kind of help put things into into perspective as why

484
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Speaker 3: things were so fucked up.

485
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Speaker 1: Wow, and there you go as opposed to.

486
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Speaker 3: Just what you hear from the internet. Melcher said this

487
00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: or we all, but that's the marin. That's where everybody

488
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: gets their narrative from. So it almost SEMs like what

489
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 3: those people say is the gospel, whether it's right or not.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so.

491
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Speaker 3: Oh Melcher used to call you fuck stick girl, called

492
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Speaker 3: me the little green Mexican hate.

493
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Speaker 1: I hate, and I hate many people. Man.

494
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Speaker 4: I I that's a whole nother show. I can go

495
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Speaker 4: off for an hour on that, but I won't because you.

496
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Speaker 1: Know Patreon extra I'm better than Yeah, we'll do that.

497
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Speaker 4: But all right, so no appearances until Mania Wrestle Cohn

498
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Speaker 4: will be your big your big comeback.

499
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Speaker 3: So I'm doing that show for Excite Wrestling in Oh,

500
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Speaker 3: that's right. When is that February?

501
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Speaker 1: Okay? And I'm done with this.

502
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Speaker 3: I have you get my fat ass on the treadmill.

503
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Speaker 1: Okay.

504
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Speaker 3: So I may not look aesthetically pleasing, but Cardio wives

505
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Speaker 3: will be good.

506
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Speaker 1: To go wear a T shirt. You'll be fine.

507
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Speaker 3: Always did. Yeah, that's all right.

508
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Speaker 1: I think you look great and I love seeing you

509
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Speaker 1: at shows.

510
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Speaker 4: It's it's so comforting for me to see you guys.

511
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Speaker 1: It is.

512
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: I feel safe when I see you guys. I hate

513
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Speaker 4: going somewhere where I don't know a soul like it's

514
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: the worst. So if I know that you guys are

515
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Speaker 4: going to be there, I just feel calm. So yeah,

516
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Speaker 4: we always got to try and get booked together. If

517
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Speaker 4: we can, we'll make that happen. To stay at home,

518
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Speaker 4: I like staying home too, but nobody's paying me to

519
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Speaker 4: stay home, so I have to get my has in

520
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Speaker 4: gear and get out.

521
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Speaker 1: That's what. That's how it is.

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Speaker 4: But I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much.

523
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Speaker 4: Good luck with your cookies. If anybody wants to buy cookies.

524
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Speaker 1: What is your Twitter handle.

525
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Speaker 3: At Mike you with brick and the underlying thing underscore. Okay,

526
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Speaker 3: if there's another one that you were me, that's me.

527
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Speaker 1: That's me. No, that's me.

528
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Speaker 4: You need to be quiet, all right, go to him

529
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Speaker 4: on Twitter if you're interested. I can't turn this off, sorry, Twitter.

530
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Speaker 1: And then do you have Instagram or I think? I? Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: me neither. I hate it.

532
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's too much work, just like this, even Jerry.

533
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Speaker 1: It is a job you.

534
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Speaker 4: This is your your your brand, this is this call

535
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Speaker 4: your brand.

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Speaker 3: M m.

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Speaker 4: M yeah.

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Speaker 3: H m

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Speaker 1: Hm