1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people will tell you that college football 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: is broken because coaches are trying to lead, but it's not. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: I got the answer for you today, and we have 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Panthers and Oregon legend Jonathan Stewart in the building today. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: And of course my five takeaways from being at the 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Of course we got to take a lux 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: break and that's up next here on Unafraid Show. Make 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: sure you like subscribe, tell a friend about the show, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and of course get notifications. Let's go. After being in 10 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Las Vegas for Super Bowl fifty eight, I have five takeaways. 11 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: That think are important. 12 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Number one and my main takeaway from super Bowl fifty 13 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: eight is that the game should always be played in 14 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. 15 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm one of them people when people. 16 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: Say whether it's football, baseball, basketball, hockey f one and say, oh, 17 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: it should always be in this same place. I normally 18 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: don't subscribe to this, but in this case a little 19 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: bit different. And I get that people like to see 20 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: the game move around. And now that Las Vegas has 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: an NFL team, that's never gonna go overwhel But Sin 22 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: City was built to host events like this. The super 23 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Bowl is a week long event, and Las Vegas is 24 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: sustained by conventions as much as it is gambling tourists. 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Vegas knows exactly how to host, feed, shelter, and transport 26 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a few hundred thousand visitors in a weekend. And that's 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: all without a year of preparation, just to have the 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: infrastructure in place to bring the big game into town. 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: And what other American city can guarantee that the weather 30 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: won't be a factor for the people in and around 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: the stadium. You know what the Super Bowls were like 32 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, Dallas, and New York in February and on 33 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: to number two. Super Bowl fifty eight taught me that 34 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Brock Party is the definition of not too high, not 35 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: too low, and Party is who he is, regardless of 36 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the situation, whether it's playing in front of zero fans 37 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: in the Fiesta Bowl during COVID or in the two 38 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: hundred million viewers at the world's largest football party in 39 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. He's the type of grounded human that athletess 40 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: been an entire career on a sports psychologist couch to 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: try and scratch the surface of And maybe that's his 42 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: it factor because so much of this game is mental 43 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: and Brock Party shows that type of measured humility. He's 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: got perspective emploise that professional golfers would kill for. 45 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: But he's an NFL quarterback. 46 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: And you'll have to excuse me for being surprised that 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: somebody with Drew Brees's arm strength at thirty eight to 48 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: forty one years old is able to go out there 49 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: and play with the confidence that Drew Brees did at 50 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: age thirty. 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: The world is. 52 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Out here trying to fit brock Party into a box. 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: But brock Party knows who he is. It's us trying 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: to figure it out. And just like Ken and Barbie, 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: that seems to be enough. And number three Super Bowl 56 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: fifty eight gave us Travis Kelce's sideline temper tantrum at 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: the expensive head coach Andy Reid, and the things that 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: people are saying about that interaction are all over the place. 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Let's be extremely abundantly crystal clear about this. Travis Kelcey 60 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: did not assault Andy Reid. 61 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Was it a good look? Absolutely not. 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: But Travis Kelcey yelling at Andy Reid is only a 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: big deal if Andy. 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Reid thinks it's a big deal. 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: And remember when Antonio Brown ran off the field shirtless 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: after feuding with Bruce arians if Bruce arians chalks that 67 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: up to a passionate moment where Brown was just blowing 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: off steam, that moment probably doesn't mark the end of 69 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Brown's playing career. And if Andy Reid can get over 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: being yelled at by Travis Kelsey, there's no reason we 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: should be offended on his behalf. Because Reid understands that 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: the game is emotional and at some point we have 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: to stop trying to apply real world things out into football. 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: It's not normal life. 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: You can't apply the same rule standards or practices. 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: It's football. 77 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: You're dealing with grown men in a locker room or 78 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: on a field who are using violence to solve their 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: problems and to get wins, and you expect emotions not 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to be high. No, you have to just accept it 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: for what it is. And yes, there are times where 82 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: things get out of hand, and those things should be 83 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: dealt with appropriate league, But this wasn't it because Andy 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: Reid understands that the game is emotional and he's no stranger. 85 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: To Kelsey's tipper. 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: He even talked about how far Kelsey has come with 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: his anger in a pregame interview with Bill Cower plus 88 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: from My Friends weren't born yesterday. You remember that Andy 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: Reid survived the two thousand and five season dealing with 90 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Terrell Owens moves right, He's probably gonna get over this 91 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: one too, assuming he hasn't moved on already. 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Number four. 93 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: All Super Bowl fifty eight did was reinforce my opinion 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: about Patrick Mahomes deserving to be the goat conversation. Look, 95 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: because you're not ready doesn't mean that it's not time 96 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: to have this talk. Because to this point in his career, 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has outpaced Tom Brady in every statistical category, 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: every other than Super Bowl rings, and in that department 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: they're tied. And it wouldn't have been insane to have 100 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: this conversation about Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson after Michael 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: Jordan's first three p So why is it insane now? 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't diminish Tom Brady and all of his accomplishments 103 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: at all, because I'm always going to root for new 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: feats of greatness, and what we're watching is incredible And 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the entire point of somebody new coming along to set 106 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: a bar for success is to give those who are 107 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: brave and blessed enough a chance to clear it. Because 108 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the man who is on pace to 109 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: do it, and I'm supposed to root against him to 110 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: protect Tom Brady fans from having to admit reality. 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: No way, because if you were. 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: Starting at franchise right now and you got to pick 113 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: between Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, you would choose Patrick Mahomes. 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: I want Patrick Mahomes. 115 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: To clear that bar because that's what is inspiring today's 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: middle schoolers to go out there and try to be 117 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: even better than both of them, and somebody's gonna clear it. 118 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: Number five. Patrick Mahomes might have gotten. 119 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: His third Super Bowl MVP with his clutch play in 120 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and in overtime, but I'm having a 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: hard time understanding why Super Bowl fifty eights MVP award 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: went to anybody other than mister Chris Jones. Chris Jones 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: made two of the most important plays of the game, 124 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: because if it wasn't for Chris Jones, there would be 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: nothing for Patrick Mahomes to catch up to. The forty 126 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: nine Ers would have run away with it in the 127 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: second half Brandon ayuk Is wide opening in the end 128 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: zone and overtime when Chris Jones forces Brock Party to 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: throw the ball away on third and four, and in 130 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: regulation he bullied brock Party into throwing the ball to 131 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings for an. 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: Eight yard loss. 133 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Plus he had another big play to force and overthrow 134 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuel, Plus you had all the double teams 135 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: and is helping run support. I got a feeling, though, 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: that any disappointment that Chris Jones feels for not getting 137 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: MVP recognition is gonna go all away in free agency, baby, 138 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: when he becomes one of the highest paid players in 139 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: league history. 140 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure this three feet even has. 141 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: A chance for Kansas City unless the Chiefs are able 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: to bring Chris Jones back. We got Jonathan Stewart in 143 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the building, Oregon legend, Carolina Panthers legend. Man holds a 144 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: lot of records everywhere. Jay stew thanks for coming on the. 145 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: Show, for having me. All right, so let's start at 146 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: the begin. 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: It right, Why did you leave Washington to go to Oregon? 148 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Because I know Washington fans could not be happy about that. 149 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: Because I didn't like purple. Naw, there's a story behind it. 150 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: A little kid from Lacy, Washington found a gift in football, 151 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: and I said gift and football because my parents divorced him. 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: You know, football was an outlet for me to connect 153 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: with other kids and you know, male role models. But 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: I chose Oregon basically, you know, through prayer. I asked 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: for a sign, and long story short, I saw a sign. 156 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 3: And if you've been on Interstate five going down to Oregon, 157 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: you'll realize that there is a cross on a hill 158 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: as you get closer to Eugene on the left side, 159 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: if you're coming down from Tacoma on I five. I 160 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: had a flashback of oh wow, that that same cross 161 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: lights up a night because me and my dad went 162 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: to Las Vegas from my football tournament and I remembered 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: seeing this cross that lit up at night. So yeah, man, 164 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: it was. That was the reason why I decided to 165 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: go to Oregon, is ask God for a sign and 166 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,359 Speaker 3: I saw one. 167 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: How is that shaped kind of you being a father 168 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: of a couple of kids and being at being a 169 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: husband the way that you grew up. 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's you know, whenever you find yourself in 171 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: generational curses, you know, it's always a challenge that you're 172 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: faced with every day to overcome those and and the 173 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: challenge is to not not to be that you know 174 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: not to be. You know, the father that you know 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: shows weakness in times of the need for strength and 176 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: being able to have better communication skills and understanding that 177 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: you know, softness isn't weakness. You know, being being soft 178 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: is being vulnerable, and being vulnerable allows you to be 179 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 3: a better human. Being a better human allows you to 180 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: you know, be accepted in ways that usually end up 181 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 3: as a gift. I mean the really the true gift 182 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: is you know, to be that person for the people 183 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: that you love. 184 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: I think that as men we get taught, like you said, 185 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: that we're supposed to provide and what the idea of 186 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: toughness and masculinity looks like. When I've learned that being 187 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: a man is not not showing emotion, but that it's 188 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: being able to accept those emotions and then not let 189 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: those things stop you and also be able to show 190 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: care and compassion and love and discipline in yourself to 191 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: those people who you love and care about the most. 192 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's spot on, man. Compartmentalizing is one of the 193 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: gifts and curse curses of a great athlete. Yep, because 194 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: if you can compartmentalize, you're gonna be okay. That means 195 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: you know how to focus and you know how to 196 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: turn the on and off switch John and be a 197 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: serial killer one moment and then be you know, a 198 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: child of God the next. 199 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: But the transition to colleges sometimes very difficult, right, So 200 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: I remember I went in I read shirted my freshman year. 201 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: The only person in our class that played was Keenan. 202 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Howary you come in and you're immediately a guy like 203 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: what was your four years at Oregon? Well, threes at Oregon? 204 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: Like it was a little bit of a blur because 205 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Terrence Whitehead like this to this day might 206 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 3: be one of the most gifted, like find the whole, 207 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: Like I don't know. He was just and just yeah, 208 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: just sneaky, like one of the best. He had the 209 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: best feat kind of reminded me a little bit of 210 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: like how Marshawn would find holes. Right, Marshawn's obviously on 211 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: a whole different level of running backs. But like you know, 212 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: it was a gift for me to be able to 213 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: play behind terror that's Whitehead, because I learned a lot 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: learned patience. I learned the importance of you know, saving 215 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: your body, not taking so many hits. You always used 216 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: to tell me, hey, man, get down. 217 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: You don't get no trophies for this. So a lot 218 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: of people would be shocked when they would hear that. 219 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: They're like, hold on, hold on, hold on. A guy 220 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: as good as Jonathan Stewart dealt with doubt at some 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: point in time in his life and like, and you're like, 222 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: he's highly talented. So how did you deal with that 223 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: doubt and what helped you overcome that? 224 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, my faith? You know God is you know, 225 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: God is. God is not first in your life, man, 226 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: Like you are bound to drizzan. So there's a lot 227 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: of things that you know, your mind hears, and it's 228 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: a lot of things that your mind tells itself. The 229 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: first thing that I put him in my brain in 230 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: the morning is I can do all things through Christ's 231 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: strengthens me. It doesn't mean it's going to be easy. 232 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: It just means that you can. I need to prepare myself. Yeah, 233 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And if you're and if 234 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: you stay ready, you don't have to get ready. And 235 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: so if you are capable of just being ready and 236 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: being in position for when your time does come, everything 237 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: else settles. People always ask the question of like, man, 238 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: what's the number one thing you ever had to overcome 239 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: in your life? And I'll say self doubt. If you're 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: a person that can say I don't deal with self doubt, 241 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: you're lying, yep, because everybody deals with self doubt. 242 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: And if you don't spout that at times like yeah, 243 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: where he would when people say, oh, I'm just so confident. 244 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: You can be confident, but there's sometimes when you all 245 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: alone and. 246 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: You say, I don't know about this. 247 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: You got to get yourself back together. But you are 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: famous for also, in addition to being a football player, 249 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: like a hell of a pionist. And we've seen videos 250 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: of you playing the piano when you were at Oregon 251 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: and all that. Where did that come, that love of 252 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: music come from? And how has that impacted your life? 253 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: Man? That came straight from my mom. My mom for 254 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: Christmas got me a keyboard for my fourth grade for 255 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: my fourth grade Christmas. Yeah, third grade Christmas, and lo 256 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: and behold, I sat down and I just started playing it. 257 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: Bro and my mom are self taught. 258 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 259 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So my mom was like, wait a minute, and 260 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: so there's you know, you can press the buttons that 261 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: have songs on there. And it was number thirty one 262 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: slow rock, and I was playing the piano to this song, 263 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: making my own song out of this song that was 264 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: like you know, yeah part of the keyboard and yeah, man. 265 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: And ever since then, I just kind of always knew 266 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: I could, you know, sit down and play by ear. 267 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: And so when I got to college that was definitely 268 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: one of those outlets in Barnhart. They had a piano downstairs, 269 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: and so you know, kids would come in from you know, 270 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: being out at night, you know, and I'd be sitting 271 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: down there playing a piano basically like a you know, 272 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: a person that's you know, in the lobby at at 273 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: a hotel or something. 274 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: Or or in the airport, just there just playing, like 275 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: just trying to make everybody else feel good. 276 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: How big of a part of your life is music? Now? 277 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: It's a huge part. Man. It's crazy. The older we get, right, 278 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: we turn into our parents, Like what y'all listening to? 279 00:15:52,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: What they talking about? But yeah, but you and so man, 280 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: it's really crazy because like I've gravitated towards a lot 281 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: of different types of music, country music, R and B, 282 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: eat and M and. 283 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Now want to fast forward to the Carolina Panthers years 284 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: because you got a chance to play with some really 285 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: good players Christian McCaffrey toward the end of your career, 286 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: but obviously the biggest name was was Cam Newton. You 287 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: played with Greg Olsen, like some really really good players. 288 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: What was kind of that Cam Newton experience, like his 289 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: rookie year when you guys obviously had a really good 290 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: year and he played well and it was like a 291 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: phenomenon where you guys became like the most popular team 292 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: in the league. 293 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: Man, it was a good time. The chemistry that we 294 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: had probably the best of any team that you could 295 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: ever think of. We weren't necessarily the most talented roster, 296 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: but we had one goal and we all knew the 297 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: same goal. I would say the word was alignment. When 298 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: you have a group of men, coaching staff, players, when 299 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: you have people understanding what the goal is and making 300 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: all jump on the same ship and go towards that goal. 301 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: Just imagine like how that should feel. You know, it 302 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: was fun. You know people you know so much laughter 303 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: in that locker room that year, But it was just fun. 304 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: Was it just came easy? It was It was a 305 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: bunch of smart football players realizing that hey, we have 306 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: something pretty special here. I actually care about you. That's 307 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: really what it is. And that's you know, like and 308 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: I'm talking about you know, I can look at the 309 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: whole roster and say, oh, I know that guy's family, 310 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: I know this, I know his kids, I know where 311 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: he's from. I know a joke to play on him. 312 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: I know what name to call him to make him mad. 313 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: I know what he likes to eat, like, I know 314 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: where his cleats are. I know, like you know what 315 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, I know what to do to piss them off. 316 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: In practice, it was just one of those years where 317 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: you just look back and say, man, I'm so glad 318 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: to be a part of that. 319 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: It had to be wild in that locker room because 320 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: I know Steve, Steve Smith and man boy boy, especially 321 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: him at that point in time. 322 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: Man, that man I would have nicknamed him Volcano. 323 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: Listen, He's Steve Smith is one of the rawest, most 324 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: authentic people on this planet, you know, and that's rare. 325 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 3: They don't make people like Steve Smith anymore, and they 326 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: probably I guarantee you, there's not another person on this 327 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: planet just like Steve Smith. He gives a team a baseline, 328 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, Hey, this is the 329 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: BS meter, and it's all the way down there. 330 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: At the floor. 331 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: You got guys like that on a team that's like, 332 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: look now we ain't with that, but you can do 333 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: all this other stuff though. Right yeah, we can joke, 334 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: we can laugh, we can play, we can whatever, but 335 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: we ain't with the BS. And you know that's how 336 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: you really, you know, develop a manhood because all the 337 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: BS is just a waste of time for right now 338 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: we're in this locker room. I got business see about. 339 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: I remember on Saturdays we'll have like donuts, the rookie 340 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, we'll go get you know, donuts. And one 341 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: of the things that I always was mindful of was 342 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: to hold on tight to whatever I was eating. Yes 343 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: you want it will be the last bite too, bro. 344 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: And so you know you got that big brother that 345 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: just like I'm gonna get you in the locker room. 346 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 3: People ask like do you miss it? It's like you 347 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: don't really miss the games, you miss those interactions. 348 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: This is the question that we ask everybody who is 349 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: I'm on this show, which is in your life, what 350 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: has been your biggest leap of faith? 351 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: Man? I would say my biggest leap of faith was 352 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: declaring for the draft. And I say that because that's 353 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: how I felt, And it goes back to that self doubt. 354 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: Everybody else might believe in me or see me in 355 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: a certain light, but you know, me having that injury 356 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: my last year, my toe injury, ended up playing in 357 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: the Bowl game, and I ended up having a good 358 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: game on a messed up toe. 359 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: Someday, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 360 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: So you went for twenty three carries in two hundred 361 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: and fifty three yards against UCF and was the some 362 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP on on a bad toe. 363 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, on the toe that I ended up having surgery on. 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: In March of the year that I got drafted. I 365 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: remember Coach Cam saying like, Nah, this is this is 366 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: your time. You need to go get about of here. 367 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 3: You did what you're supposed to do. You rush for 368 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: you rush for two see notes, man, You're out of here. 369 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: And so Coach Cam really gave me some confidence. And 370 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: you know who I was as a who I was 371 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: as a player, as a man. You know, I looked 372 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: at him, you know still to this days, as you know, 373 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: one of those fathers that I feel like God placed 374 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: in my life. Man for the obvious absence of you know, 375 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: my father during that time. I think the biggest leap 376 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: of faith that I've actually taken was that because it 377 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: was the biggest decision of my life. 378 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: And you guys, he's Jonathan's Steward. You guys can go 379 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: check out Charlotte Lately and make sure you guys watch 380 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the whole episode and everything else. But we got to 381 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: go for a lunch break in just a second. Yeah, 382 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: we'll be back with Jonathan Stewart for Rights or Rock. 383 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: We're at sean Artistan Noodle and we are with the 384 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: with the famous Las Vegas Field and Vegas Star. 385 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: You guys make sure that you guys follow them on. 386 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: TikTok, Instagram, Twitter and everywhere else. They're giving you the 387 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: best places to go, the best recommend days is the food, 388 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: the hotels, everything, the whole shooting match and I'm an 389 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: excited man. 390 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: We got a great arras up here for starters, We're 391 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: gonna we got the spicy wantons. These are Phillip pork 392 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: oversus like a similar silky smooth wanton skin, spicy refreshating juice, 393 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 4: sitting really good. 394 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: We got the cucumber salad. We need some venis and 395 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: Mark a shan beet noodles. Soupers. 396 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: See what their most famous sc The second most popular 397 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: dishes are then don noodles. All their noodles are made 398 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 4: Freshian house, and it's a big reason why I love 399 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 4: this puss. 400 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 3: All right, let's go. 401 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: These are super pan fride beet pancakes, kind of like 402 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: a Michelle m bottle of dumplings. 403 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: Got pant ryders. 404 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 4: They're super juicy. A lot of people who kind of 405 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: pick it up and haven't square it out the end. 406 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Man, So we just finished a great meal. It's shun 407 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: Artistan noodle and the meal was so good. 408 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: But I will have a piece of advice, do. 409 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: Not wear a white shirt. 410 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: It's toast. 411 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: The dumplings were amazing, the fried rice was great, the 412 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: hand pulled noodles, but I did learn something about the 413 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: eat about the knife shave noodles. 414 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: Those were by far my favorite. Yeah. It's not on 415 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: the strip. 416 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: So if you're a person I gotta eat on the strip, listen, 417 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: get off the strip. There are great places here and 418 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: this is one of the places that you need to 419 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: come to. So there was too many dishes for me 420 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: to go, you know, dish by dish, but overall, I'm 421 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: giving this place eight point nine out of ten. That 422 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: means anything about eight point five. I'm going out of 423 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: my way to come back mazing. Loved it, fantastic, Make 424 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: sure you get there. And now we're back with Jonathan 425 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: Stewart for reister or wrong? Jonathan? Am I reister or 426 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: am I wrong? If Jonathan Stewart weren't a football player, 427 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: we would still know who Jonathan Stewart is in the 428 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: world of music. 429 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: Right ster, Am I reister or am I wrong? 430 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Your best game in college was at Washington only time 431 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: you got a chance to play there. Thirty one carries 432 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty one yards, two touchdowns, twenty yards 433 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: receiving a thirty four yard kick return. Or is it 434 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the bowl game that we talked about against us against 435 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: us self in the Sun Bowl? 436 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: Twenty three carries two hundred and fifty three yards. 437 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: Man, that's actually a tough one because all my life 438 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: I was actually thinking to myself the UDUB game was 439 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: my favorite, my best game in my my career. But 440 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: once you actually put the put that together, it actually 441 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: makes me realize that you know that some bowl might 442 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: be my best game simply for the fact that I 443 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: was hurt and and I knew it was on the line. 444 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: I knew that there was an opportunity there for me 445 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: to really pave the way. 446 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Am I reister or am I wrong? The order for 447 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: NFC South hate is Falcons, Saints and then Buccaneers. 448 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say you're not wrong because I hit them all. 449 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: I hit him all. That's a good order. 450 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Am I reister or am I wrong? 451 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is actually more famous in Charlotte than Greg Olsen, 452 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: Luke Keikley, Steve Smith, or even Cam Newton. 453 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: Yes, reister, you're right. 454 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 455 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: He'd even play there, which is wild. Am I reister 456 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: or am I wrong? Jonathan Stewart is a better piano 457 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: player than Joey Herrington. 458 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: Uh. Joey is like classically trained, isn't he? Yes? Yeah, 459 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm not better than Joey Harrington, but I can say 460 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 3: that I can probably create a better beat than he can. 461 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: Okay, hey, Ben, everybody has their own lane, and you, guys, 462 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: he's Jonathan Stewart, Oregon legend, Carolina Panthers legend, Jay stut 463 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. 464 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: Brother all man. I appreciate you. 465 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: I've been listening to people sound the alarm about the 466 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: demise of college football since the confetti dropped on Michigan's 467 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: National championship win over Washington. You had Jim Harbaugh leave 468 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: the Wolverine toward the NFL, Nick Saban retired, Jeff Hafley 469 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: left Boston College to become an NFL coordinator, and Chip 470 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Kelly left UCLA after trying to become a coordinator anywhere 471 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: that anybody would take him, only to end up at 472 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State in the vacant spot left by Bill O'Brien 473 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: who took over at Boston College. And people point to 474 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: these things as evidence that the once great college football 475 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: empire has started the crumble. But it only took two 476 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: days for Alabama to replace Nick Saban with Washington's Kaylin 477 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: de Boor. It only took two days for Washington to 478 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: replace Kayln de Boor with Arizona's Jeff Fish. And it 479 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: took a couple of days for Arizona to replace Jed 480 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: Fish with San Jose State's Brent Brentnan. The Boston College 481 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: job was filled after one week, Ucla was filled by 482 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Foster in less time than that. People are lining 483 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: up out the door to have a crack at being 484 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: a college football head coach. And that's not what a 485 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: dead or dying sport looks like. That's because college football 486 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: isn't dead, it's just changing. Is it a drastic change, Yeah, 487 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: for sure. And there's nothing wrong with the coaches staring 488 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: down these changes and saying, ah, that's not for me, 489 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: because in fact, it's refreshing. But I want to take 490 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: a second to be intellectually honest about whether or not 491 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: that that's actually what's taking place. Because Jim Harball didn't 492 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: leave Michigan because he hated the transfer portal nil or 493 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: player empowerment. He was actually doing the opposite. He was 494 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: complaining constantly that college football wasn't changing fast enough and 495 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: he wanted profit sharing. Nick Saban was the second oldest 496 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: coach in the country behind Mac Brown. He would have 497 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: been seven twenty three heading into the SEC's annual November cupcakes. 498 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: And he's not eternal. How many seventy three year olds 499 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: do you know that are able to put in fifteen 500 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: hours a day for eleven months a year working around 501 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: young people. And if you think that man lets societal 502 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: changes dictate his decisions, explain how he won nine of 503 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: his eleven SEC titles in the age of social media 504 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: without ever being on social media. And don't get me 505 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: started on Chip Kelly. He's a good dude and I 506 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: like him and a good football coach. But it would 507 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: be one thing if Chip Kelly had mastered college football 508 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: prior to the transfer portal and nil. But he's always 509 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: done his own thing. But just because it got harder 510 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: to operate outside the system doesn't mean that in chips case, 511 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: the system was the problem because Chip was out here 512 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: ignoring recruiting rankings, neglecting the Southern California talent pool, and 513 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: hiring coordinators without the energy and appetite for selling UCLA's program. 514 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: The energy was what they were missing. 515 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: It was an innovator in college football, and because of that, 516 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: he was always trying to ice skate uphill. And if 517 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: it got too hard for him to keep his balance 518 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: and be a contrarian, that's not a college football problem, 519 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: that's a Chip problem. And now the Jeff Hafley thing 520 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: is alarming because logic tells you that if you're young, energetic, 521 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: and have a high paying head coaching job somewhere, that 522 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: you're starting to gain some traction at taking a step 523 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: back to become a coordinator. Sounds a logical, right, but 524 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: the quality of life in the NFL is better than 525 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: it is in college and Halfley's camp said that for him, 526 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: college football was becoming less and less about coaching players 527 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: and he wants to get back to that, and that's understandable. 528 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: But one case doesn't make a trend. And even if 529 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: it is the start of a trend of head coaches 530 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: stepping down because they don't feel equipped to handle all 531 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: the responsibilities of the new landscape, that's not a bad thing. 532 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: We need their knowledge, but as fans, we don't want unqualified, 533 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: unmotivated dudes hanging on. 534 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: For a check. 535 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: I've never been a college football coach, but I have 536 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the profession and respect the 537 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: hell out of the grind that it takes to not 538 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: only thrive as a developer, recruiter and schemer, but also 539 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: be open to all the changes taking place in the game. 540 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: But I don't want to hear any of them complain now, 541 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: not even one of them, when I've never heard any 542 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: of them complain about the freedom of movement that has 543 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: always been afforded to the coaches, or the market value 544 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: that helps them have access to salaries that most Americans 545 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: will never see in their professions, and to the fans 546 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: threatening to abandon the game that they once loved. Do 547 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: you not see the irony that the changes that are 548 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: frustrating you and supposedly ruining college football are that the 549 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: players have a fraction of the ability to act like 550 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: their coaches. Now, maybe the problem isn't the players having 551 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: expanded rights. Maybe the problem is that the NCAA spent 552 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: ways too long fighting against expanded rights, and if they 553 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: missed an opportunity to make football players employees of the 554 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: university who are beholden to contracts and have protections that 555 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: would allow coaches to get back to focusing on development 556 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: and protect players from coaches being able to push them 557 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: into the portal instead of, you know, doing their jobs. 558 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to negate people's feelings or push 559 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: them away from college football, although if you do pull 560 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: a Jeff Hafley and you move on, you need to 561 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: know the game will be fine without you. And what 562 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do here is point out that the 563 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: sport you love is going through puberty. It's a little 564 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: awkward right now. Covered in acne is moody, dramatic, wearing 565 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: clothes once before they outgrow them. But this is all 566 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: a natural metamorphosis, and because of the NC doublea's artificial 567 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: hormone suppression, I'd be even say that this is a 568 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: case of late blooming. But college football will come out 569 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: of this much much stronger because the game is strong, 570 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: and as long as the NC DOUBLEA gets out of 571 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: the way, players will be able to share and the 572 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: profits their efforts generate. The television networks, apparel companies, and 573 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: bowl sponsors eventually will take the burden off of fans 574 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: for player compensation, as well as provide the Title nine 575 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: funds that ensure thriving existence of women's sports. The universities 576 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: will then hire general managers in charge of talent acquisition 577 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: and contract negotiations, and the coaches that aren't comfortable and 578 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: insecure about what their players earn will have stuck around 579 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: long enough to get back to what they wanted to 580 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: do in the first place, which is coach football. But 581 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm just an optimist. Maybe the pessimists right 582 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: and the NCAA deciding to force amateurism down our throats 583 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: while the coaches, administrators, TV network executives and corporate partners 584 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: built generational wealth, then treated the players like cattle, and 585 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: then bragged about trading office equipment for labor as a 586 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: character building exercise. 587 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: What's college football at its best? 588 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Or maybe just maybe some changeing girls are a good thing? 589 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: Let that sink in. 590 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: We need to talk about the forty nine Ers head 591 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: coach Kyle Shanahan at this point, the slander needs to stop. 592 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Kaz all I've seen since the Kansas City Chiefs scored 593 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown in Super Bowl fifty eight. 594 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: Was Shanahan blew it again? 595 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: Yes, he was the offensive coordinator who built the twenty 596 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: eight to three third quarter lead on the Patriots in 597 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He didn't make Jake Matthews hold and take 598 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: the Falcons out of field goal range to end the 599 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: third quarter. He didn't make Devonte Freeman miss a block 600 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: that got Matt Ryan sacked. He didn't make Matt Ryan 601 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: fumble on that sack. He didn't make Jake Matthews hold 602 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: a second time with under four minutes left to take 603 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons out of field goal range again. 604 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: You know what else Kyle Shanahan didn't do. 605 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: He didn't give up the game time drive or two 606 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: point conversion or overtime touchdown that secured the biggest comeback 607 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: win in. 608 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowl history. 609 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: And of course you have the twenty twenty Super Bowl 610 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: where Sam Francisco led to Kansas City Chiefs twenty to 611 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: ten with under ten minutes left in the game. And 612 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: then something clearly happened to Jimmy Garoppolo, who was seventeen 613 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: of twenty before he spent the second half of the 614 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: fourth quarter missing receivers and holding the ball too long. 615 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: And maybe that is Kyle Shanahan's fault, but maybe Kyle 616 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: Shanahan deserves credit for getting Jimmy Garoppolo there in the 617 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: first place. And maybe he's just got to hit if 618 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders wide open and you got a touchdown. Let 619 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: me repeat that in a way that people are going 620 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: to look back on in twenty years as proof of 621 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's genius. Kyle Shanahan won four playoff games with 622 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, averaging one hundred and twenty eight passing yards 623 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: per game and a one to three touchdown and interception ratio. 624 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: That's like being ahead in the last lap of the 625 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: Daytona five hundred despite three flat tires. 626 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: And sand in the gas tank. But we want to 627 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: blame the driver though. 628 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: And this year the forty nine ers had a lead 629 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: in both regulation and overtime with less than ten seconds 630 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: to go on the clock, and I get that win 631 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and losing is a zero sum game. And to some 632 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's record of losing leads in the Super Bowl 633 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: is alarming, But do you know how many people with 634 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: a lifetime of coaching the experience never get the opportunity 635 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: to actually blow a lead in the Super Bowl. 636 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: You got to get a lead to blow a lead. 637 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is forty four and he's built San Francisco 638 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: into a consistent NFC powerhouse. You know who else had 639 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: teams consistently knocking on the door in his mid forties, 640 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Andy Reid. 641 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: That man got knocked. 642 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: Out in the NFC Championship three times before he finally 643 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: made it to the Super Bowl where he got an 644 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: early lead on Tom Brady, and then Tom Brady did 645 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: what Tom Brady does. Kyle Shanahan is out here having 646 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: to replace coordinators every year because of his success. He 647 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: has a seventh rounder at quarterback and he still had 648 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: a lead on Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes in overtime 649 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and some of you take that 650 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: whole close only counts and horseshoes and hand grenade's thing 651 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: way too seriously, take a lesson from Andy Reid. If 652 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: somebody can get you to the table over and over again, 653 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time before you get to feast. 654 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: So count Kyle Shanahan out all you want to make 655 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: fun of him for blowing leads in the game. Unless 656 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: you're a Patriots or a Chiefs fan, your team had 657 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: nothing to do with. But you and I both know 658 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: you would drop your favorite team's entire staff just to 659 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: bring Kyle Shanahan in because you know that if Kyle 660 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: Shanahan is at the wheel, you're going to see the 661 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: finish line, even if the car breaks down right before 662 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: it crosses. 663 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: You. 664 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: Guys, that's the Unafraid shoe. 665 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: Make sure that you like subscribe, tell a friend about it, 666 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: get notifications, because sharing means we can continue to bring 667 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: great dope content to you. 668 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: Catch you next week.