1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson in 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Hi, Ky, how are you? Nice to meet? 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 3: You nice to meet? You have to go on. 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: It's going, and you know it's going as good as 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: a ken for a Phillies fan like me, you know 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: how that goes. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know you're a Phillillies fan. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm born in Phillies, raised all those decades of frustration. 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, sorry, where are you from? 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: I was born in Philadelphia and I was raised in 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: South Jersey. 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: Fantastic. I just came from Ocean City and we were 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: in Finland in Tuckaho. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I spent many many summers in Ocean City. 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: Dude, that's all. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: I know. 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: What a season. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: I love this season of the Phillies, and I what 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: a brutal ending to an amazing, amazing year. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: You know, their problem was this organization. They didn't play 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Weston Wilson enough or at all. They didn't get many 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: at bats in the playoffs. And that's a breakout star. Yeah, 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: that's a breakout power hitter star you know, waiting to happen, 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: and they didn't give him a shot. Dude, I'm sick 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: of watching guys. I'm just so sick of watching guys 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: strike out in the big looks. I mean, I don't 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: care how hard these guys are throwing. They're not throwing strikes. 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Just take all these pitches. Take the pitches, bunt, slap 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: the ball the other way, play some small ball when 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: you get over yourselves. None of you were Babe Ruth, 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: you're not Mickey Manple, You're not Ted Williams. And get 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: on base. And that's all I have to say that. 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: I was at the game where Kyle forber Shober hit 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: four home runs the last home game I went to, 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: and boy, that was something I have to say. If 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: I get hit by a car for real, I'm good. 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm really that was it. 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, at the end of the season, 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: it's like you're you're playing a small market team and 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: all their minor U league arms are up there and 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit four home runs off them, So what 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like these guys, I'm sorry, if 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: you strike out two hundred times a year, your value 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: goes down. I don't get it. I don't get it right, 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it how that's 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: acceptable where you strike out rate is thirty three percent. Well, 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: thirty three percent, Kate, Kate. If you and I walked 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: onto a set and one third of the time we 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: couldn't nail the scene, we couldn't get it right, we 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: kept dropping our lunch, we'd be gone. 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: Although, how many times of the audition for stuff and 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: didn't get it? I mean those percentages are pretty high 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: for me. 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Okay, oh no, I agree in the beginning shore the 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: first couple of years, but then you learn, right. I 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: went on like one hundred audition hitting streak where I 59 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: was just like hitting the ball of the park, but 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't scoring. 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't score sometimes. 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Still, Oh yeah, it's it's so hard many. 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: Times, many times this close close. They love you. 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know how people get jobs. It's so 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: hard to get a job. I don't know how people 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: do it. 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: It is. 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: That's why I kept my restaurant job through the first 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: season of the Office, because I was like, we have 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: a short season, Like, dude, it. 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: Was it was six hours. I was like, I'm not quitting. 72 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 4: I'm not starting a new job if this doesn't work out, 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: cover my shifts during the week and work my Sunday brunch. 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: I gotta do what you gotta do. 75 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: I stayed in my I had a little rent. I 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: had stayed in a little rent control apartment in West 77 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood for the first three years at Gilmore. My nut 78 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: was you know, my nut monthly for everything, for rent, 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: for you know, gus, for food, whatever. I mean, it 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: was under like eight hundred bucks a month. 81 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: That's how you do it. 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I look very yeah, like keep the 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: overhead load. That's part of the of the magic, you know, 84 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: that's how you do it. I think these kids that 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: are like living over their means and putting stuff on 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: credit cards and thinking one jobs gonna save me. 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: No, you're screwed. 88 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. There are people that get their first series and 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: they buy a beach house in Malibu on credit. 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: Or people buy a big house the last year of 91 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: their series and then like oh no. And then my 92 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: whole thing is like when you're ending, you gotta batten 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: down the hatches. It's graduation time, Like, uh, get take 94 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: a reality pill. 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: You you really do? 96 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: No? 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, yeah. One day you're hitting four home runs, 98 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: the next day you're striking out five times. 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: You know, you gotta know you gotta gotta know when 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 4: to wet your hair like like Marsh and go. 101 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: That guy guy, what's going on? I love him at 102 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: least such a weirdo. I love him. 103 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: You know what? 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: He was hitting really well that last part of the season, 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: wasn't he He was? He was on fire. 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: He was dude. That wet hair is no joke. He 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: was just That's It's. 108 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: A lot of he should he should have. At least 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: he should have a water deal with somebody. He should 110 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: have like Fijis it should. 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: Write him, even Crystal guys ourselves, come on, let's go. 112 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Some local Philly water thing or the or the Water 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: and Powered Department Philadelphia should sign who the hell knows? Right, 114 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Peate Flannery, we are welcoming you today to my podcast, 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: and uh, you are many things. You're an actors, singer, writer. 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: You're known as Meredith. Uh from Is that your name 117 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: on the office? Yeah, it was right, Meredith from the Office. 118 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: No, I prefer Meredith the drunk from the office. 119 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: You got okay, And you're touring with Jane Lynch in 120 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: a Swinging Little Christmas. She's got some great stories to 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: her waitressing days, her diner roots. Of course, because you 122 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: know that's what we grew up in in that part 123 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: of the country and her close Skilmore Girl's connection through 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: our friend rose Up. I'm thrilled to have her here 125 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: on Luke's Diner, the One and Only and I formerly 126 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: introducer Mss Kate Flannery. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hold your applause, 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Hold your applause. All right, So you grew up Kate? 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: You did? You did? You grew up in the diner 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: culture of the seventies and eighties and nineties, right, and 130 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: what do you remember most about that ear in Philadelphia? 131 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Did you box the counter refills, the coffee refills, the 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: late night food? What tell us about that? Because I 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: grew up in that same culture. I'm from that area. 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I felt like it was something as 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: a kid, like being in high school. You could figure 136 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: it out, you know, you could figure out how to 137 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: get like, you. 138 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: Could go it. 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: It was it was like an affordable but it was 140 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 4: a culture. 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: That's what we did. 142 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: You know, I have to get we go for breakfast 143 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: like after practice, you know. 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: Playing sports and stuff like. It was a treat. But 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: then it was also like your first sense of independence. 146 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: You got to go to the diner. You know, nobody's 147 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: worried about you. You're just at the diner. 148 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like. 149 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: You're at Manila's, like on Lanter Avenue, what's the big 150 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: or you're on the Black Horse Pike on the way 151 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: to the shore stopping at a diner. 152 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: He eats her Harley Dawn. 153 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: Which was like an old house that had like a 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: little you know, homemade I mean at the menus or 155 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: fourteen pages. You want to get chicken croquettes. Well maybe 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: it's as big as your face. I don't know, maybe 157 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: they're just small, but they're great. You know, get get breakfast, 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: Get a corn muffin, you know what I'm talking about, right, 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: get some jail. 160 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: There are diners all the way down to the shore. 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: Now South Jersey kids and Philadelphia kids. So the Philadelphia 162 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: kids would usually go to like the inner city kids 163 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: right in South Philadelphia back in the day with solid 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: Italian they go to wild Wood, they go to Atlanta 165 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: ylk City, Right, they. 166 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: Still do they still do? They still do? 167 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, still do. Right. And if you're from South Jersey, right, 168 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: or you're from the main Line, whatever, you would go 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: to Ocean City, Cape May. 170 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: Totally totally even Long Beach Islands, or Venor or Margate, Longport, right. 171 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: You know, no, you know what I'm talking about. Ocean 172 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: City and Jay, not. 173 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: Maryland to be right and Jay. Yeah, best beaches in 174 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: the world. There's nothing to compare. I mean, you know, 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: got about walk, best food, best people, best salt water taffy, 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: best pizza, best best rides. I'll take it any any day. Yes, 177 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: but now, but now, so I go back. I hadn't 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: been back in a while. So I went back in 179 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen, and I hadn't been back in a while. 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: And we go to the beach. We go to Ocean City. 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: I start walking onto the beach, or at least the trail, 182 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: the sandy trail that leads to the beach, because we're 183 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: on the boardwalk, and we went down try to get 184 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: on the beach. Somebody there saying you gotta buy you 185 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: gotta buy a pass to get on the beach. Just 186 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: get the hell out of the way. 187 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: So we just like a beach tag, I know, a 188 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: beach tag. 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: We literally sat there and argued with her, like, what 190 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: are you talking about. You can't sell beach tags. This 191 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: is this is public this is public property. You can't 192 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: charge us to go on the beach, but they can, 193 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: they do, they do. 194 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: You can go, you can go before they checked the 195 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: beat bags. You can go after. 196 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: You know, we had like our our you know, if 197 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 4: we had a lot of friends like we you know, 198 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 4: figure out our ways going to the boardwalk, like there's 199 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: ways of getting around it. But when they start coming 200 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: in a pack to check everybody on the beach, you 201 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: could act like you're asleep. 202 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: That used to work not so much anymore. 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: That is not not the Jersey way. I don't know 204 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: where they get this idea, but that's not the Jersey 205 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, kidding me? 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: I know, I know. Actually in Ocean City it started 207 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: in seventy six. Yeah, it was brutal. I remember the 208 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: year it started. I don't. 209 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: I don't remember caring as much better. Yeah, in Ocean 210 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 4: City it did. 211 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Yeah? Brutal? 212 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,479 Speaker 1: Huh. 213 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: But you know everybody's got an angle. They're like, i'bout 214 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: work it out. 215 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah all right. Well you said you're not a huge cook, 216 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: But do you have a go to like cowboys steak 217 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: recipe something like that. What's a secret is it? Cowboys steaks? 218 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: About? 219 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Tell me about it. 220 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's about butter and beef and this amazing rub 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: that you can make yourself. 222 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: Sounds dirty, but it's not. 223 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's it's half a cup of coffee beans, 224 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: half cup pepper corns, just maybe a quarter cup sugar, 225 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: and then quarter pound, sorry, a quarter cup of kosher salt, 226 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: and you put it in a pepper grinder and then 227 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 4: that becomes your that's your that's your special secret weapon. 228 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Like that's it. So you sear sear the steak. 229 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: In butter on both sides in a pan, and then 230 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 4: you put it on the plate with this stuff and 231 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: just make sure the rub gets everywhere. 232 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: And then you put in the oven and it's it's ridiculous. 233 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: It is ridiculous. You could put the crappiest piece of 234 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: meat into this system and you're going to be in heaven. 235 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: It is. It's a great little trick. 236 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,359 Speaker 1: Did you learn that at Kate Manalini's. 237 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: I did not. 238 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: My boyfriend, who's an NBC photographer, he taught me that 239 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 4: he cooks more than I do. We actually met on 240 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 4: the office and we've been together for nineteen years. 241 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: We don't live together. We're happy. It's fantastic. 242 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Man I tell you that is smart. 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: But I used to work at Kate Madeleine Restaurant in 244 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. That's the job that I worked there for 245 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: seven and a half years on and off because I 246 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: was in New York doing a show for a little 247 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: bit during that time, but took a leave of absence 248 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: covered my shifts and then you know, the first season 249 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: of The Office, I you know, I still kept the 250 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: job because I was I was afraid we weren't going 251 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: to get a season season two pickups, so I didn't 252 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: want to start a new job. 253 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: So I waited on a lot of famous people. 254 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: And even though it was kind of a fancy restaurant, 255 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: my dad always called it the Diner because we. 256 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: Had diner hours. We literally were there at five thirty 257 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: the morning breakfast ship you had just when you first 258 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: started the job, you had to work breakfast and it 259 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: was like five thirty. You know. The place works from like, 260 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: you know, like six to six to. 261 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: Like eleven, and then you worked lunch and then they 262 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: would have a dinner and late night. 263 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,239 Speaker 3: On the weekends. 264 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 4: When I first started, they were there till four in 265 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 4: the morning, so you'd come in at eleven. 266 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: And you'd work till four in the morning, and it 267 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: got pretty shady in Beverly Hills. 268 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: At four o'clock in the morning, there was too much 269 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: like damage, so they kind of stopped that. It kind 270 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: of became a little dangerous, you know, so it went 271 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: back to two o'clock. So yeah, but still it was 272 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: it was. But the breakfast was world class and uh, 273 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: you know, you could get a you could get diner 274 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: type stuff. You know, they had great lentil soup and 275 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: great bread and you know great, it's just like great basics. 276 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: That's a fancy, fancy actor agent meeting place, producer actor 277 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: agent meeting place. It was like, there was that place 278 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills, Like, right, what was that little what 279 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: was that little place in Beverly Hills. Have you ever 280 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: been in that place? God name will come to me, 281 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: But it's like it's just this small little place you 282 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: walk into and then it opens up a little bit. 283 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: But it's like it's it's like we're all the power players. 284 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: We well, Kate Madalini was a power player. 285 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. 286 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: That was right across from bristein Gray Academy. So every 287 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: time I remember, we'd have to be there super early 288 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: the day that they would announce the Academy Awards. Because 289 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: when they would announce nominees, we'd have to be in 290 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: at four thirty because they would announce four thirty am. 291 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: We'd go. 292 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: They would make the announcement, and they'd walk a block 293 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: to our restaurant and they'd all drink Bloody Mary's and 294 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: have breakfast and you know, keep. 295 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: Patting themselves on the back. It's fun, you know, it 296 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: was kind of fun. You felt like you were a 297 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: sort of part of history. 298 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: If you worked to Oscar night, people would come in 299 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: and have their oscars on the table. 300 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, right, good tippers? Were they good tippers in general? 301 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 302 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, sure, sure, sure. So I heard through the 303 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: grape find that you're a Gilmore fan and that you 304 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: actually know a lot of the casts, including Rose app 305 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: do play Gypsy. How far back do you two go? 306 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: I think I've known Rose. 307 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: I mean I came to check out Second City in 308 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eight when my favorite aunt gave me a 309 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: ticket to check it out. 310 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: She lived in Chicago and I just graduated. 311 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: From from college and Rose was there, and we knew 312 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: each other a little bit in Chicago, like we liked 313 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: each other, but we weren't exactly in the same circles, 314 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: even though we were both in the second city. 315 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: She was a little higher up. 316 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: In the food chain there when I started there, and 317 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: I was also at the Annoyance Theater, so I was 318 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: kind of double dipping with more than one place. And 319 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: then I think, you know, maybe a few years into 320 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: the office, we started to get I started to get 321 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: really close with her because we had so much in common. 322 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: I always feel like she had good taste. I always 323 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: feel like she liked the things I liked. And she 324 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: also like she agreed with me with the people that 325 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: were douchebags. So I like that about her. Uh huh. 326 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: Not everybody agrees about the douchebags, you know. So I 327 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: love that guy. I'm like, do you okay? Great? 328 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I got turned up. Did you ever visit the set? 329 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: I did not. 330 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: No, never came by. 331 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: No. 332 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: I knew alex Forstein too. 333 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: I used to do shows with her at ACME, this 334 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: crazy Saturday night show, and then she did I had 335 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: a comedy act called the Lampshades that I did for years, 336 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: and she did our show at the Aspen Comedy Festival 337 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: for a couple of characters, and so I knew Jackson. 338 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: Okay, well, so yeah, I know a few people. 339 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: And of course, like I had met Melissa a few 340 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: times at auditions. I used to see her, which she 341 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: mopped up the floor with all of us all the time. Anyway, 342 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: even back then, and then Jay Lynch was on the 343 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: show and I met Kelly Bishop. I cornered her at 344 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: an airport lounge in Newark. 345 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure she loved that. 346 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: Tell us how special Melissa is because we were not 347 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: prepared for her characters and her performance at the ground 348 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: leaks when we went to see her as the cast 349 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: year I think it was the first season. Yeah, and 350 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: then she came out and she did like she had 351 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: four skits that she did that she wrote. I mean, 352 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: we were, we were actually we needed to leave because 353 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: our sides hurt so much from laughing. 354 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: She is so fearless, right. 355 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: Oh my god, she understands how to control an audience, 356 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: like she just keeps going. 357 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: She's amazing, She's amazing. 358 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Eh, yeah, we were, we were blown away. That ain't 359 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: no accident. That career, that's not an accident. That's that's 360 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: just skill and talent and hard work, reparation. 361 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 4: And right, absolutely, and I knew Lauren Graham a little 362 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: bit because we had a mutual friend in Sam Pancake. 363 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: I think Sam did your Netflix. He was on work 364 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: during the netflik, Yeah, which. 365 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: Of course Rose up due did two parts in the 366 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: Netflix era Gypsy, of course, as she did in the original, 367 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: and then she was Birdie, the Kelly Bishop's maid. Spoke 368 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: a language that no one else knew but Rose. 369 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk about that Luke's Diner. Yeah, 370 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: since you grew up around diners, I grew up around diners, 371 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: remember Ponzios and Cherry Hill. Did you ever go to 372 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: I passed it? 373 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever. 374 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 4: I just passed the Penrose Diner last week on like 375 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: South so right by the stadiums. 376 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 377 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: And I used to go to Aramo Diner sometimes because 378 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: I worked at a dinner theater my senior year of 379 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: high school. 380 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: Right, do you think that kind of place still exists today? 381 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: These kinds of diners? Are they going? 382 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: It does? It does? But they're really they're really falling 383 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: by the wayside. 384 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: They're just going to But you know what I love 385 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: about Luke's Diner is that Luke could be in a 386 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: bad mood and everybody knew it, but but they still 387 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: came back. And that is so Philly South Jersey. That's 388 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: so My dad under bar in Germantown and he served 389 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: food a little bit, although most of the guys would 390 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: have a chicken dinner, which just spent a couple of 391 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: hard boiled eggs because they wanted to keep drinking because 392 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: the food took up too much space, if you know. 393 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: It was like an old band bar for sure. Great place, 394 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 4: so great place, and my dad took you know what 395 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 396 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: You know, you remember how people used to be. You 397 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: moved to California, and everybody's like they're doing yoga, they've 398 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: got the therapists, they're doing meditation, and they're balanced, they're 399 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: happy all the time. There's like this big emphasis on 400 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: being happy all the time in public appearance. That's not 401 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: the way it used to be. 402 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 4: No, But also it's unrealistic because you all know it's bullshit. 403 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: I mean, that is the outside and you know what, 404 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: we're always compared. That's a problem about moving to la 405 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: You always compare your inside. 406 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: So the people's outsides. In Philly, it's like everything's on. 407 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: The table, everything, everything, everything. People ask me, how did 408 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: you create that? Character. I said, he's a South early 409 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: South Jersey guys. 410 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 3: Totally, totally, you know. My my brother owned a bar 411 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: for a while. 412 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: My dad sold his bar because my brother worked for 413 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: my dad, and then they switched places. 414 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: My dad ended up working for my brother the last 415 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: fifteen years he waited he was behind the bar. 416 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: Stopped working in eighty seven. Crazy still, I loved to 417 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 4: be one hundred amazing, like totally with it. But my 418 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 4: brother would have like, my brother was a rougher personality, 419 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: so he needed my dad because my dad was like 420 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: my dad was just really even killed, like a really 421 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: sweet guy, funny, smart, and he knew he understood. 422 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: People better than my brother did. 423 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, so he was definitely like the you know, 424 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: my dad was sort of like the I don't know 425 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 4: he was. He was like the fabric softener and the 426 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: and the rint cycle of the bar. But I remember, like, 427 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: you know, my dad would have little subtle jokes like, 428 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: you know, but my brother was like if some friend, somebody, 429 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: some customer and he was talking to a woman or 430 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: it was a guy or a woman, if they were 431 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: talking to somebody that they shouldn't date. He had a 432 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: red band dad in his back pocket. 433 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: And he would start wiping the bar right in front. 434 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: And that was the red flag, like you know what 435 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. So you know, you felt like people 436 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 4: were looking out for you. 437 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Right, exactly Seriously. 438 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: There was a woman that used to drink at my 439 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: dad's bar. 440 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: Was one woman and you know, she'd be drinking with 441 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: the fellows, just drinking, you know, and she caught the bus. 442 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, for years my dad would walk 443 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: over to the you know, make sure she didn't miss 444 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: a bus because if she, if she had a lot 445 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: to drink, she wasn't moving too fast. 446 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: So people looked out for. 447 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what that's what I miss about that place, 448 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: you know. You know right, you don't know friends, Your 449 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: friends had your back, like man, I. 450 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: Mean, they made bitch about you, but they'll do it 451 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: to your face. 452 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: Not just behind your back. You know what I mean, 453 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: you know where you stand. I'm all for that. I'll 454 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: do that. It's all you all. Everything's great until it's not. 455 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: That's right, all right. So you and Jane Lynch right, 456 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: because she was on the show too, she had aid 457 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: yes yes. And the thing I remember about Jane Lynch 458 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: she was playing in she was running the nursing station 459 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: station when when Richard had his heart attack earlier, like 460 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: I think it was season one or Seeing too. The 461 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: thing I remember about Jane Lynch and Jane Lynch wasn't 462 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: Jane Lynch yet, but she was Jane Lynch right, yes. 463 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: And the thing that that struck me about her was 464 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: she took over her scene. She was like in command 465 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: of her scene. And at times at times I thought, 466 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: I said, who's this girl think she is? She's a guess. 467 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: But but that's what you do. You come in, you 468 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: own your stuff, you you you, you have your opinion, 469 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: you talk to the director. This a because she obviously 470 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: knew what she was doing, right she could. She's gonna 471 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: clam up and have somebody tell her to go stand 472 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: over there and say that line goes stand over there. No, 473 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: she's got instinct, she's got the skills of talent, everything. 474 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: She's gonna she's gonna run the show. And she did. 475 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. 476 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: And you know, the very first time I ever went 477 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: to Second City, Jane Lynch was understudying for Bonnie Hunt. 478 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: And what was weird was that it was Bonnie Hunt's 479 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: wedding day, so Bonnie came back in her wedding dress 480 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: to do the improv part of the end of the show, 481 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 4: and Jane was like, oh, you know, but it's just 482 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: it's crazy, like I'll never forget it. 483 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: But I remember that's why I knew that Jane was 484 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: on stage. 485 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: We talked about it later and figured out like, oh 486 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 4: my gosh, you were understated for her the night I 487 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: was there. It's the very first time I was ever 488 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: in the audience there and and had, you know. 489 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: The bug to work there and luckily got to. 490 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: But I like, I remember about a year and a 491 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 4: half later, I became Jane's understudy and just watched it 492 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: like the way that she would work, you know, there 493 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: there are very few like she has a tremendous sense 494 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: of purpose. She understands who she is at all times. 495 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: Like I feel like sometimes I'm more of an ensemble 496 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: player where I'm like, what do you need me to do? Okay, 497 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 4: because let's let's face it, like on the Office I did. 498 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: I did not get a lot of lines, and there 499 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: were some episodes where I didn't speak at all, but 500 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: I was in every episode, so I had to be 501 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: completely realized as a as a character, as a person, 502 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 4: and also as a good scene partner. So even if 503 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 4: you're not talking, you got to like give somebody back 504 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: like whatever your reaction is, your attention that makes sense, 505 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: that keeps it real so that they can keep doing 506 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: what they're doing, because you know, Steve Crole did all 507 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: they have been lifting on our show in my opinion. 508 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 4: But you know, I always felt like when I when 509 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: I did get the talk, it was always worth the 510 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: way because I had some really fun memorable moments. 511 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: A lot of stuff got cut season two and I was. 512 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 4: Like, oh God, am I going to get fired because 513 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: I replaced somebody for the pilot. So you know, whenever 514 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I auditioned for the pilot for another part, 515 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: didn't get that for the part of jam. 516 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: Michael Scott's boss. So when I when I did get hired, 517 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, this is weird to replace 518 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: somebody like that. 519 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 4: But you know, I but I feel like there's some 520 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: people that take up more space automatically, and I feel 521 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: like and it's a it's a great thing. 522 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: It's a gift. 523 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: Did she filled that room? 524 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 525 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: She It was like you didn't notice anybody else because she, 526 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: like the general was there nice? Right? No, because there's 527 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: no question there's no question right now. 528 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jane and I've been touring together for about ten years. 529 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: We did a Christmas album together and it did really well. 530 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: It was like literally number eight in the Billboard Top ten. 531 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: And we so we so we get to do like 532 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: a lot of performing arts centers. We've played the Kennedy Center, 533 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: We've played the Carlisle and it's just great. We usually 534 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: go out for about three weeks into like late November 535 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: till then right before Christmas in December, and then we 536 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: also have a new non Christmas show. We've been doing 537 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 4: different variations of it. This is a new version called 538 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: The Trouble with Angels. We're gonna do that in Texas 539 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: in February and at Steppenwolf in. 540 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: Chicago and March. 541 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, we got a punch. 542 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Big dates coming up for that. 543 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: The store we're gonna be literally from uh, from the 544 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: East coast, Midwest. And then we like we're doing Palm Springs, 545 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 4: where we're having done all in a while, so we're 546 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: doing so Rito's and Uh. 547 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: And then we're just kidding and then we're doing the 548 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 3: broad Theater in Santa Monica. So it's fun. 549 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: It's like a concert, but there's a lot of comedy. 550 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 4: We we sing with this great jazz band that Tony Greer. 551 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Quick Ina Monica. What are the dates? 552 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: We'll be down December seven, seventeenth. 553 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: When are you doing to Ritos at sixteenth? 554 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: And then we'll be in Palm Springs on the fifteenth. 555 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 4: We moved, We moved, Scott. We just keep moving. 556 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: We don't take a break. 557 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was saying like our show was like the 558 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 4: It's like the rat Pack, but with a couple of broads. 559 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of comedy in between the songs. 560 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: It's not a hostage situation, you know. Jane kind of 561 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: leans into her kind. 562 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 4: Of she sort of leans into Sieu Sylvaster, and I 563 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 4: sort of lean into Meredith. She's sort of like the 564 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 4: nun knocking me on the knuckles, and I'm sort of 565 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: like the sheep dog knock and everything over. 566 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: We have a great time and it's fun. It's fun. 567 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: It's sort of like we call it like an anti 568 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: cabaret act. 569 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: Because sometimes, you know what I mean, there's a lot 570 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: of people that take themselves very seriously and that in 571 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 4: that medium. 572 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: So YouTube been performing together for a while now, right, 573 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: how long? How long far do you go back. 574 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's consistently for ten years. We used to 575 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: sing it benefits for singing and benefit this Sunday Kelleyen 576 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: Jazz Club. But yeah, we we and we sang together 577 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 4: in Chicago. There were a number of things we used 578 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 4: to do together. Yeah, so it was it was fun. 579 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: We've always had a good time. We've always we always 580 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: like to see it. 581 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: That is great. 582 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: Jane likes to say, yours go to sion h praise. 583 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: All right, one last question, because we're running out of 584 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: time and you have please Kate come back, love to 585 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: come back. 586 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: I would love to. Let's not wait till the Phillies 587 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: take them. 588 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: No, No, that might be you know, we might be 589 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, doing it from the well. Anyway, if you 590 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: were to come in to Luke's Diner, Kate, okay, let's press. 591 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: If you were to come in, what would you order? 592 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: Where would you sit? 593 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: I would want to. 594 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: Order eggs and scrapple, But Star's Hollow probably doesn't serve scrapple, 595 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: so I won't do that with Rye toast. 596 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: By the way, do you remember Habersets sausage and scrapple? 597 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Your worse? 598 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: I literally just had some this past week, my. 599 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: First, my first gig ever. I was five years old, 600 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: and my dad handled no, my dad's friend handled that account, 601 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: what handled the Haberset Sausage and Scrapple account. So one Saturday, I. 602 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: Just sent Habersets Scrapple to a friend of mine because 603 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: I found it online where you could ship it. 604 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: So so my dad takes us over to his house 605 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: on a Saturday that we're talking nineteen sixty three, and 606 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: my sister and I did the voice over to the 607 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: lines that we had to read into the microphone. That 608 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: was my first job. Yes, my sister and I were 609 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: the voice of Haberset Sausage and Scrapple for I don't 610 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: know if it was a whole campaign or what. It 611 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: was just a one offul commercial, but that that was. 612 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: We did our radio debut in nineteen sixty three. 613 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: That's amazing. Gilmore Girls, Skill More Girls, scrappleed, You're the 614 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: Boys of Scrapple. 615 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: We parted like it was nineteen six fifty eight. Actually 616 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: after that, I. 617 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: Have to tell you, I love Luke. I love I always. 618 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: I always loved the on again, off again thing with 619 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: you and Lauren and I just I just felt like 620 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: you really embodied, Like I just the storytelling on the 621 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: show was It's so easy to get back into these 622 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: days because I got to turn off the news. So 623 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 4: I feel like I've tuned into girlmore again and it's 624 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: like an old friend. 625 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: So so thank you old friends. 626 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you work. Seriously, I appreciate that. It was. 627 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: It was you know, when you get those great lines, 628 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: all you have to do is sort of like not 629 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: screw it up and don't up into the furniture, right, 630 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, we get to say all those great lines 631 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: in those great situations. What are a gift? 632 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: Right? 633 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Every single day? Every single day you gotta work. 634 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: So well, it's such a smart show. Oh my god, 635 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: it is. That's so much, pretty proud. 636 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Of it is. All right, you're coming back right, all right, 637 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: you kind of come back day Flannery. Check her out. 638 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: She's on tour with Jane Lynch a Swinging Little Christmas 639 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: again this year. She's going to be locally Santa Monica 640 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: and Sorito's, but she's going all over the place and you. 641 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: Can buy her. 642 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: You can get her album on iTunes, Swing a Little 643 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: Christmas on iTunes or time you can buy the CD, 644 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: give it to your grandmother. 645 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: I don't know anybody. 646 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Check that out to the perfect Christmas gift. All right, 647 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, best fans on the planet. Keep those cards 648 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: and letters coming. Appreciate you. We'll see it. Holidays made here. 649 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there every day from December eighteenth to 650 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: December twenty fourth, and then again Christmas because I need 651 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: a break, and then twenty sixth of December through January fourth. 652 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: So come on out there, get you to against WB 653 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Studio Tours dot com and we will see you in 654 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: Stars Hollow on the Warner Brothers lot. 655 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: Where you lead, we will follow. Stay safe, do. 656 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at 657 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: I Am All In podcast and email us at Gilmore 658 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com.