1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: this is our number two of the Drive here on 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. And it's time for the Fantasy 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: Football Focus and Matt, we're gonna have to build our 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: the FS lineup tomorrow tomorrow. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: Okay. I thought it was springing on me today. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: I was like, we can do one tomorrow and we 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: can do one Friday. True, Okay, I mean be nice. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: The way we're going, maybe we'll lose twice, we're gonna rebound. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: It's coming. It's coming. We're gonna get We're gonna go 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: on a run here. 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: I like it. 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: Okay, let's take a look at this week's top waiver pickups. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: At running back Tank Bigsby, somehome only rostered in forty 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: seven percent of leagues. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: I kind of get it. 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: I heard them last week, and then yeah. 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: I considered cutting him at one point too, just because 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: at N actually did good stuff. Injuries have been a 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: bigs By issue, but more than that, it's mac Jones. 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: I don't think Lawrence is going to get back in. 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: I think I mean they're on a buy right now. 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: You know, like, how many more usable weeks of Bigsby 28 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: do you have? That's the problem. You know. I didn't 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: pull the trigger, but I thought about it. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest, I'm worried about the Giants running 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: back now, right since they made the quarterback change. 32 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: And that happens to these terrible teams that they cash 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: out and then you're left with a good fantasy player 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: that's not getting the most out of them. 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean you're just going to load up 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: to stop him. And yeah, right there, Danny DeVito. 37 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: How many first downs are in the Giants future. 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: I'd rather have Danny de Vito at quarterback right now? 39 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: Is that just a I mean they all they did 40 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: was lock yeah the tank? 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's a that's a tag. Yeah. Is Jones 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: getting shut that they've announced this? But you think he's 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: getting shut down like car and rusted? I mean, just 44 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: don't get hurt. I think so. 45 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they actually kind to practice squad quarterback today, 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: so they may they ma end up just telling him 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: to stay away from the building. Yeah, he might not ever, 48 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: be William wants your practicing because we don't want you 49 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: to get hurt. 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: And locks the two and de Vido gives them the 51 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: best chance to get the first overall pick. 52 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: That's how it is, and it makes the Giants fans 53 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: happy because you know he grew up right down the 54 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: street from Giants Stadios. Yeah, good luck with that, have 55 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: fun with it. 56 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Tommy Cutler's uh. 57 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: Gus Edwards twenty eight percent roster though he should be 58 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 3: every league. 59 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's part of a time share in 60 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: a pretty good offense. 61 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: He got goal line touches, he got the whole deal 62 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: last week. 63 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: Now fire him up. 64 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dobbins is still the lead back, but Gus is 65 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: going to get ten carries a game. 66 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: They get the Ravens this week, which isn't great, but 67 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: they have a pretty easy schedule going forward too. Yeah yeah, yeah. 68 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: After this week, it's Atlanta and then Kansas City and 69 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: that's case. 70 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: See I didn't know the run defenses. I just know 71 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: in general, their schedule's not very difficult. 72 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: Ty J Spears forty eight percent rostered. 73 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: I think he got hurt again though, Yeah, stuff to 74 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: trust and how good is that offense? I mean it's 75 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: not it's actually not horrible. I shouldn't be that hard 76 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: on Levis. 77 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he only got five touches last week for eight yards. 78 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: I know, I don't I don't love it. 79 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I think he's closer to cuttable than he is running 80 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: out to this point. Yeah. 81 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: Roshawn Johnson seven percent rostered got the end zone again 82 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: last week. 83 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: He's their big back now, Yeah, I mean I think 84 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: they at least we have clear roles. Swift is going 85 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 2: to be the league guy slash third down dude. Then 86 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: Roshawan who coaches a door is your grinder. 87 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: Now there are still some touchdown dependent leagues out there. 88 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for the rest of the way, Yeah, I would. 89 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: Think cam Akers seventeen percent rostered. Jones has not always 90 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: been mister reliable. 91 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: Right in this past week he wasn't either, And I 92 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: think there was another small injury or there was something 93 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: around Jones and I have him in both leagues that 94 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: prohibited him quite a bit. 95 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: They obviously like Acres they traded for him. 96 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's clearly the two so he might cut 97 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: into Jones' workload. 98 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, ty Chandler is probably cuttable at this point, Yes, 99 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: he is, he is. Yeah, uh, Jalen Wright six percent rostered. 100 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: He's both guys back up in most are turns. Yeah, 101 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: I usually lean towards young legs late in their rookie 102 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: year that haven't had anywhere and take like a Chan 103 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: he's tiny, he's little dud. 104 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: They don't just they just don't have a physical presence 105 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: at all on offense. 106 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely, not that I might if I had 107 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: a roster spot floating around out there, I'd consider. 108 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: Imagine if they had Derrick Henry right or Tyler Yeah, 109 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: just you know a guy who is who can catch 110 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: the ball a little bit. 111 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they should that should have been 112 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: their draft pick, not. 113 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, counting on Raheem most thirty two old year 114 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: old Raheem Moster are to continue to be that. 115 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: He's not even a drag him, he's not a pow mover. Yeah, 116 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: but he's the best that they got. Yeah yeah, yeah, 117 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: a mere Abdullah with the Raiders, right, Yeah, yeah, I 118 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: guess I'd have a really hard time starting them. 119 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: Their problem is Denver this week, at Kansas City next 120 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: week and then Tampa Bay. 121 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what this didn't pay much attention to 122 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: their backfield, and it's early in the week, but mostly 123 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: I have no interest in any of them. 124 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: No, I don't either. But if you're really hard up 125 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: for a bye. 126 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: Week, yeah, bye week's coming up, huge bye week week. 127 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: This week, Adula's going He'll get the ball. 128 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: He's going to get fifteen touches. 129 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm shocked he's still in the league, and I get 130 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean that in a good way, like he has 131 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: survived and reinvented himself and he's okay. 132 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the other options are Dylan Lobb and Vellas Jones. 133 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: Melis Jones was a wide receiver when training camp started. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 134 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: So it's not a great situation. Adula's going to get 135 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: the ball. He's gonna get the ball, and he can catch, 136 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: and he can catch. He's been on the block, and 137 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's not great in protection, but he's been 138 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: in the league long enough to'd fine. 139 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 140 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: Quinton Johnston moving over to wide receivers still only rostered 141 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: in forty one percent of league's It seems. 142 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Pretty clear that Mconkey's the one, Johnston's the two, and 143 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: he's a deep threat. He's a deep threat and they 144 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: scheme him up pretty well. And he's been a lot 145 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 2: better than he was in his rookie year. Will Disley, 146 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna be on there too. 147 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: It is all sort of relevant. Yeah, yeah, and Herbert's 148 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: on fire and their throat the ball more than we thought. 149 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: Johnston got eight targets last week. Now, he only had 150 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: two catches for forty eight yards, but he got eight 151 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: targets and. 152 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: He scored touchdowns this year. Yeah, so you could do worse. 153 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, Christian Watson forty four percent rostered. He's 154 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: the ultimate fantasy. 155 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: Team I know, and I usually bite because he's kind 156 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: of tantalizing, and I don't believe in Romeo Dobbs, and 157 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: that's really soured on Wicks. I thought he's gonna be 158 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: more than he is. I'd have to study it, but 159 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: it feels like Watson and Reed are the top two 160 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: dudes crafted to use much, you know. I think Dobbs 161 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: is that's the thing. He's on the field all the time. Yeah, 162 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: I always sell him. 163 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: Short, But Watson had a twenty three point five percent 164 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: target share last week. They only threw the ball seventeen times. 165 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 2: I think he should be in leagues. 166 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: Every time that you pick him up and play him 167 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: though he gets hurt. 168 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I did it in this in our league. 169 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I'm like I had an extra quarterback or something picked 170 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: him up for two weeks, then it cut him now 171 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: never played him. 172 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: Elijah Moore eight percent rostered Deep leagues. 173 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, on the field a lot. He's the number three. 174 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: He gets targets. 175 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: He's got a twenty three percent target share with Jamis 176 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Winston out there. 177 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: They all do. They're all like right around the same 178 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: target share, all three of those guys. Yeah, so they 179 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: throw the ball a lot. They do throw the ball. 180 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: Jamis is a very friendly assist for goal type guy, 181 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: and he sets you up. 182 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: Jalen Coker coming off to buy five percent rostered. They've 183 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: got Kansas City this week, Tampa Bay next week, then 184 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles. He might actually be good. I think he 185 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: might be usable against Kansas City and Tampa Bay. I 186 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: don't know if I want to start him against Philly. 187 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: It's a different conversation. But when a couple of weeks ago, 188 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: whenever he became a thing, I attacked him in my 189 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: dynasty leagues. Yeah, like those are a lot deeper, and 190 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: I've been trying to trade for him since I think 191 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: he's a long term starting quarter or wide receiver and 192 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: what in an offense that isn't horrible now? Yeah, so 193 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: what's that worth for this year? Who knows? But be 194 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: aware of the guy. 195 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: In the final and the game before there by last 196 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: week he had a thirty two percent target share, forty 197 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: nine point four percent air yard share. 198 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: He's part of the reason Deante's not there. 199 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a thirty six point four percent first read share. 200 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 201 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: No, they're steaming everything tim and looking to get the 202 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: football to him. They know who their receivers are in 203 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 3: the future. It's the get and it's him, and they're 204 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: trying to get them get some trying to build something here. 205 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: So he's an interesting profile because he's from a really 206 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: small school, Holy Cross. I don't think he went to 207 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: the combine and he didn't run well coming out. 208 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: But he's a slot. But he's a slot and he's big, 209 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: and he's physical and he'd like a forty two inch 210 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: vertical like he's a big explosive. 211 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: He's just not fast. Yeah, he's a good player. Who's 212 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 3: the who is the Saints? 213 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like a Marquise Coulston. 214 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah guy, Yeah, that's what he that's what he is, 215 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: absolutely and those guys can be effective on the inside. 216 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: Again if they're a bigger body guy, because most of 217 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: your slot corners are smaller. 218 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: Type, right right right, he muscles people up, he goes 219 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: up and gets it. I mean he doesn't play super slow. 220 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: He just didn't run well. 221 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, I can't go. Wandel Robinson is forty eight 222 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,119 Speaker 3: percent rostered. That should be a bit about zero percent roster. 223 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: At this point. I would say so pure slot guy 224 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: needs an accurate quarterback. 225 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Marquez Valdez Scantling now twenty five percent rostered. 226 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: I mean I would consider putting a claim in if 227 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: I had an extra spot. 228 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: I think it's more of a DFS play, yeah, where 229 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: you're host like he and Alec Pierce are put him 230 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: in there because they're cheap, right, and you might get 231 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: a sixty yard touchdown at it. 232 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: But if you're in a fab league and you got 233 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: to actually, like, how much do I put on on 234 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: this guy? No, but somebody else. I mean, if it's 235 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: a league like ours, where it's just a priority waiver thing, Okay, 236 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: you can put a claim in. If you get him, fine, 237 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: doesn't cost you much. If he got him the next week, 238 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, Uh. 239 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: Xavier Laget twenty eight percent rostered coming out of his buy. 240 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: It's kind of the same same deal talent, and they're 241 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: gonna get him the football. 242 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Noah Brown ten percent rostered. We talked about him a 243 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and since then it's not been 244 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: quite as good. No. 245 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: I think he's there too. Their defensive or offenses sputtered. 246 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: It's been a while since we saw them. Yeah, I'm 247 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: sure you can do better, but he's okay. Uh. 248 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: Leading the quarterbacks, bo Next forty eight percent rostered. He's 249 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: been on fire. I think he's a quarterback one. He's 250 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: been on fire. 251 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 252 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: Drake May fourteen percent roster. Think he's a borderline quarterback one. 253 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: They both run. 254 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: They run. 255 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson at this point is forty seven percent roster. 256 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: I know, I my other league, I have May and Tua, 257 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: and Saturday morning, I'm like, I have Juju still sitting 258 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: on my roster. Who can I dump it for. I'm like, 259 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go pick up Richardson, who I cut four 260 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: weeks ago. I'll probably start. 261 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: Him over to or May and then you'll probably en 262 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:58,479 Speaker 3: up regretting. 263 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: It, possibly possibly us scrambling there. 264 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: They played Detroit this week, then at New England and 265 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: then they have. 266 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: The bye week, So okay, I don't know if i'd 267 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: start against the Lions. 268 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamis Winston twelve percent rostered. Here's the here's the problem. 269 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: They're scheduled down. The stretches defenses that they played the 270 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 3: next three weeks is Pittsburgh at Denver at Pittsburgh. 271 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: I want to pull something up that I found. 272 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: He could get really ugly, really quick, Jamis. 273 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: But he is a fantasy friendly player. I mean that 274 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: is absolutely true. He doesn't run at all, which is bad. Yeah, 275 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: this is per EPA, but you know, any metric you want, 276 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: only the Eagles and Bears have faced an easier slate 277 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: of defenses than Cleveland, and they're like the worst offense 278 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: in the league, and they faced the third easiest slate. 279 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: But including this game against the Steelers, only three teams 280 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: have a more difficult slate going forward. So he's had 281 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: it well, they've had it super easy. Now it's about 282 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: to get super hard. And I don't know that that 283 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: offense overcomes those things. 284 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, big picture, Yeah, they just don't block 285 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: real well and no. 286 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: And we know what he is. 287 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, at tight end. Will Disley twenty three percent rostered. 288 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: Fine with it. I mean I think there's something to 289 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: be said for how often do we say teams tell 290 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: you what they think by where they spend their money, 291 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: and so Harbaught takes over. We have no cap space. 292 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: I gotta get rid of Mike Williams. Gott get rid 293 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: of Allan, can't go get anything. The only thing they've 294 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: bought on the open market was will Disley. They love them, 295 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, he's not a superstar, but you know what. 296 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: They asks what they got. 297 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 298 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: Hunter Henry forty five percent rostered. 299 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: I'd lived with him for a little while when things 300 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: are bad, and now I've been cutting them. Yeah, yeah, 301 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: he is what he is. 302 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: What he is forty He has at least forty one 303 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: receiving yards in four or five games. 304 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: I need to score. 305 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: That's what you're going for. You're going for the three 306 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: for forty train uh Jatavian Sanders two percent rostered, panthers 307 00:12:59,200 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: on him. 308 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a youth movement. I mean, 309 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure Brooks is going to get more Sanders, the 310 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: two receivers not. The Tuba isn't. But we need to 311 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: grow our skill guys behind a pretty good line with Young. 312 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Since Week five, Sanders has averaged one point seventy six 313 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: yards per route run. 314 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: And he's talented. I mean, like this time last year 315 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: people we talking about the first round pick. Yeah, I mean, 316 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: he's got some pedigree to him. Absolutely. 317 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: Looking at this week's schedule, obviously we know the Steelers are. 318 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: The buys again. And you remember you said there was 319 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: a punch but yeah, let me see here. They want 320 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: to hear somewhere. If not, that's what figured it out. 321 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: They're not on here. I don't see them unless. 322 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Usually they have them on here, but I'm not seeing 323 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: them anywhere, all right, Oh no, they're They are Falcons, Bills, Bengals, Jaguars, 324 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: Saints and Jets. 325 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: Six. I was thinking there was only four. 326 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: It's by him again this week and then week fourteen. 327 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Which is playoffs. That's what the raven one. 328 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: Right, nobody on a buy next week because it's Thanksgiving. 329 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's not weird. 330 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Falcons weird as week eight Falcons, Bill's Bengals 331 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: are very fantasy relevant, very uh, Jets are fantasy guys. 332 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: Jaguar Saints not so much. 333 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: No true, but but six teams is painful this time 334 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: of year. 335 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely a lot of Yeah, especially if you're in your 336 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: stretch run here and you're like trying to win. 337 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: I gotta win this week. Yeah, right right, I need 338 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: to should a plan for this. Yeah. 339 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: Uh, Steelers are at the Browns. You're starting the Steeler defense. 340 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm starting the brown I'm not starting 341 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: the Browns. Yeah, gladly fire up the Steelers. 342 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: Chiefs are at the Panthers. That's wonderful. Yes, you're starting 343 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: the Chiefs defense. But after they just lost, they're going 344 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: to be mad, you know. Vikings are at the Bears 345 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: both definitely Minnesota. Their secondary is starting to crumble a 346 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: little bit, which is to be expected. 347 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: It's been troublesome all year, but they dial up all 348 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: kinds of exotic blitzeres to try to cover up for it. 349 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: Bears would be a coin for for me. Yeah, it's 350 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: a good defense. Titans are at the Texans. I like 351 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: the way Houston plays on defense. They fly around. Maybe 352 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Will and Anderson comes back, but no one, no one. 353 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: The Titans. 354 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: Lions are at the Colts. 355 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: Lions. 356 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: Lions, you're gonna play them every week, although they just 357 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: lost Angeloni too, and the injuries are starting to pile 358 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: up for him a little bit. Patriots at the Dolphins, 359 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: start the Dolphins d I think so, I think so. 360 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get after the passer. Okay, it's not bad. 361 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: Buccaneers at the Giants where you have to start the 362 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: Buccaneers defense, right. 363 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't been that great this year, but I 364 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: don't care. Yeah. I mean Todd Bowles against right, yeah yeah, 365 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: coming off a bye right, yeah yeah, Mike Kevin's who 366 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: back soon soon? I think. Yeah. 367 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: Cowboys are at the Commanders. 368 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: I guess Washington. Hmm, that's a tough start. I know, 369 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't love their defense at all. I'm just thinking 370 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Cooper Rush, Zach Martin, Tyson Smith, and Tyler Goyiton got 371 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: hurt yeastly. It's troubling, and Lam got backed up late. Troubling. Yeah. 372 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: I just wonder what Dallas is trotting out there this week. 373 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: It is a rivalry game, but Washington's coming up a 374 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: bye right, No, they played, they played Thursday nights. Yeah, 375 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: in a while, I guess you could start them, but 376 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: I don't love it. No, I mean I like the 377 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: match up. I don't know that I'm picking them up. Yeah, 378 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: but maybe in the FS of they're super cheap. There's 379 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: a lot of good defense, a lot good matchups we 380 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: have had hard time finding. Broncos are at the Raiders. 381 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: That's great, that's a great matchup. 382 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Great. 383 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: No One No on the Raiders. Yeah, forty nine Ers 384 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: at the Packers. 385 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards No. One. Both. I saw her. I 386 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: don't know if he's playing. 387 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: Or not, but yeah, Bosa's banged up. Parties banged up. 388 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Deebo doesn't look the same. I mean, not only 389 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: either offense is crazy scary, but I also don't really 390 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: trust either defense as much as I like. 391 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cardinals are at the Seahawks. No, and no, 392 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: and no, you don't like that. 393 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: I liked how Seattle's deplayed though this past week, but 394 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: Arizona's hard to play. 395 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: Eagles are at the Rams. 396 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: No One. No, I don't but not with a healthy 397 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 2: cup in the KUA and in their building. And then 398 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: the Monday night game that's a Sunday night game, by 399 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: the way. Eagles at Rams, uh, Monday night Ravens at Chargers. 400 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: So the Ravens get the extra rest on this game, 401 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: plus sixteen for the year. 402 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: Carbo Varus Harbaugh, I know that you know that. Oh yeah, 403 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: Mom liked you best. 404 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: And I mean the timing's bad to say this, but 405 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm I've been on the defence or on the side 406 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: of you don't start any defenses against the Ravens, now, 407 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: do I change my tune after one game? And this 408 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: is a good defense. And Harbaugh knows Harbaugh and all 409 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 2: that they got a bunch of guys. What Jim Harbaugh 410 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: did was bringing a bunch some Ravens guys. The familiarity 411 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: is insane. Yeah, I mean the coordinators and I mean everybody, 412 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: Dobbins and Edwards, I mean. 413 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 3: They're just yeah, here's what Lamar doesn't like to do. 414 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this guy was at Michigan with Jim. And 415 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: that's why I think the game is going to be 416 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: like seven to three. 417 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: But if Rokwan Smith doesn't play, that's a good one. 418 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: I can't play the Ravens defense because I think the 419 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: Chargers will control the game. 420 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: I think Chargers might win. 421 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: I think the Chargers might win this outright, especially if 422 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: Rokwan doesn't play. Kyle Hamilton might still be He's not himself. 423 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 3: They're not putting him near the line of scrimmage, and 424 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: that's what helps him stop to run. They might have 425 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: to do that if Rokuan is out because they're not 426 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: gonna be able to stop the run. 427 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure the Chargers will run. 428 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: The Steelers ran for fifty yards against them in the 429 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. 430 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so those other linebackers are not good. You're starting either. 431 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: D If I had to start one, I would start 432 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: the Chargers. 433 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: I like the way the Ravens rushed the passer though 434 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: that was a little bit unexpected. Those tackles are great 435 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: for the Charger. 436 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: That was O way And did you give up some 437 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: pressure against the Bengals. 438 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what to think about the defense. 439 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean, there are other they're they're better. Yeah, they're 440 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: better standalone. I'm not sure I'm cutting the Chargers though, 441 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: to go pick up a goofy one. 442 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: The Ravens haven't run the ball as well in the 443 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: last four weeks. They evers about one hundred and twenty 444 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: five yards per game in the last five. 445 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: Weeks, and Lamar hasn't been nearly his potent on I 446 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: doubt they get away from Henry again. Chargers from rush 447 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: to passer. Oh yeah, I don't know what to think. 448 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if I had either one, I'd 449 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: probably just stick with it and live with it, you know. Yeah, 450 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be a shootout. 451 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if if people have still have the 452 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 3: Ravens defense though in fantasy a lot of the other 453 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: Chargers for sure. Yeah, the Ravens have probably been droppable 454 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: from too many big plays allowed. 455 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't run out to pick them up though, either. 456 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: But Steelers defense, Chiefs defense, Vikings defense, UH, Texans defense, Denver, 457 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: the Lions defense, Yeah, the Dolphins defense, they're all better matchups. 458 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: Buccaneers against the Giants. Yeah, and about five of those 459 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: who mentioned are slammed. I think I might rather start 460 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: to Commanders against the Cowboys. 461 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: Going back to that, I would just considering the state 462 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: of the Cowboys, especially if those linemen are really hurt. 463 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of good matchups this week that we can pick. 464 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: From, despite being six teams on by Yeah. Yeah, Steelers 465 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: are high in the list. 466 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: Steelers should be very high in the list. I mean, 467 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: forty six sacks the Browns have allowed, ugly, that's by 468 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: far the most in the league by far. 469 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: Four point six games come on, man, I. 470 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: Think in the TJ. Watt era when the Steelers have 471 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 3: faced a team that is last in sacks. 472 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: Allowed, yeah, there was some six and sent Today. 473 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: The Steelers are six and oh in those games and. 474 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: What has six sacks? Yeah, again not surprising, not surprising. 475 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: Right, you can try to stop him, but yeah, you're 476 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 3: probably not going to hold up the entire Gay. 477 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: I don't like the way they're built the stop sacks. 478 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Going back to hour one of who's the chipper, who's 479 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: the six guy? Tackles are bad. 480 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: We want to run eleven personnel. Well, good luck with that. Yeah, 481 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: I mean that's what they do. That's their best guys, 482 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: and it's kind of worked compared to the rest of 483 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: their offense. 484 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: This year, not winning. 485 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: But anyways, that's going to do it for the fantasy 486 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: football focus. Matt and are going to get to a 487 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: break when we come back. It feels like later in 488 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: a week, but it is Tuesday. That's Power Ranking Day, 489 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: so we'll take a look at those when we come 490 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: back right after this. 491 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: At least. 492 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 493 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: your twenty four a Home of the Black and Gold 494 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation. 495 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: Radio and we are back. 496 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lalli. 497 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the drive 498 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt, it's time to 499 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: look at the power rankings. Should be some shakeups in 500 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: this one. This one, we would think there's no shake 501 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: up At number thirty two. Eric at Home on the 502 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 3: NFL dot Com, the Jacksonville. 503 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: Jaguars are at thirty two after they're fifty two to 504 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: six loss to the Detroit Lions. 505 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: I was memory, remember that was a thirteen point thirteen 506 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: and a half point spread with the largest of the years. 507 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: It still wasn't enough. It wasn't even close. I mean, 508 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't competitive at any point. 509 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: The Lions have done that basically when they play a 510 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: bad team, they're to blow you out. They're going to 511 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: blow you out. 512 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean that's just the mark of a 513 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: great team. Yeah. 514 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: Well, and I think the Campbell's reasoning for that is, hey, 515 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: we're trying to build something here. 516 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, we don't want to win. 517 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: This in it because he's taken some criticism why you 518 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 3: still have starters in there late in the game and 519 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: things like that. 520 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if golf would have got heard or 521 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: Satnay Soul was still in there late in that game. Like, 522 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: I don't think I would do that personally, I mean 523 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: I would. 524 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you only have so many spots that you 525 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: can take out. 526 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: It's hard to You can't just put a whole new 527 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: offensive line. 528 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but yeah, they'll blow if they get 529 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 3: if they play a bad team. Just remember that down 530 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: the road here, if they're playing somebody bad, they're. 531 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 2: Gonna smack them. They don't hesitate. Yeah. Uh. 532 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: At thirty one the two and eight Raiders. 533 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: They're really terrible now, I mean quarterbacks a mess as, 534 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: very predictable, new offense coordinator, two or three good players. Yeah. 535 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: At thirty holding steady, the Tennessee Titans. 536 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: I always think they're a little bit better than the 537 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: garbage teams. I think that's a little harsh. 538 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: I think that is too. I would have them over 539 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: this next team. At twenty nine, the Giants, Yeah, I'd 540 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: have them over the Brown with the penguin at quarterback, 541 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: he's that should be his nickname. It should he should 542 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: be Tommy DeVito is the penguin because they love these 543 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: nicknames in New York. 544 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: He's not short on nicknames though. 545 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: No he's not because that's what they do in New York, 546 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 3: because everybody's gonna have a nick. 547 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: Danny Dimes is the worst onever. 548 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: I hate it, and I freaking hate it. 549 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: The uh as currently constructed with him as a quarterback. 550 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: They would get beat bad bite. 551 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: They're going to get crushed week after week. They're trying 552 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: to lose. Right, Well, Tennessee is behind them in the 553 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: power ranks. Tennessee is much better than them. Yeah, with 554 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: the Vitos a quarterback at twenty eight holding steady the 555 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. 556 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: Two wins in a row, let's give him a little 557 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: bit of credit. I mean the defense doesn't have anything. No, No, are. 558 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: They better than the three and eight Patriots. 559 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: Haven't been mentioned yet? I mean I'm putting the Titans 560 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: over all these teams we mentioned. Yeah, yeah, I think 561 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: so too. Patriots at twenty seven. At least there's glimpses 562 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: from the quarterback. It's exciting. 563 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, are the two and eight Browns real? 564 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: Quick? I just read this today. You probably did too, 565 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: because the Browns were second on the list. Patriots have 566 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: started eight different O line combinations. Yeah, and Browns are 567 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: at seven? Come on, Steelers are at five. I know, 568 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: I know. 569 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: One of the amazing things about this season for them 570 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: is they started five different because you see how the 571 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: how things are going for the other teams that have 572 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: started a lot of different line combination of Patriots, right, Yeah, 573 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: they're way down on the list here. 574 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: It's a really hard thing to overcome. And Steelers a 575 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: great o line injury luck before this year. Yeah, came 576 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: home to roost a little bit. The fact that the 577 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: Patriots and Browns are this high up is just a 578 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: reflection of how bad the league is right now, because 579 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: they're really bad teams. 580 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: Cleveland had four hundred and forty three yards of offense 581 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: and didn't turn the ball over against the Saints and 582 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: scored fourteen pins. 583 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: Still go be fourteen points? Yeah on four hundred and 584 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: forty three yards and no turnovers and they caused a 585 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: couple turnovers. Yeah, they forced two turnovers both from Taysoon 586 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: Hill and then they gave up three touchdowns to him. 587 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: That's horrible. 588 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: It's really hard. 589 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: You should average if you have four hundred and forty 590 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: you should average basically ten points for ever one. 591 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: Hundred yards that you gain. 592 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of the ratio over the years, right, Yeah. 593 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: So you get four hundred and forty three yards, you 594 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: got to have about forty points with no turnovers unless 595 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: you turned the ball over like five times. 596 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's different. You get down the goal line 597 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: and throw to their team or whatever. Right, Really it's 598 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: hard to do. 599 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: They missed every kicker in the AFC North last week 600 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: not named Chris Boswell missed two field goals. Yeah, that 601 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 3: adds up to Cleveland's kicker, Dustin Hopkins is fourteen to twenty. 602 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: I know, really bad, really bad. 603 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 2: I think the rest of their special teams is average ish, 604 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: but their kickers terrible, terrible. 605 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: At twenty five down a spot. 606 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: Dallas, Yes again, Cooper rush no one on the old line, 607 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: short on weapons. Parsons came back in the defense. The 608 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: defense played hard, they did. And I don't know how 609 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: much longer you're going to get that. 610 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: They made a game of it for about a half Yeah, 611 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: a little longer. And he's clearly a difference maker. Yeah, 612 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 3: you know, they're not very good. At twenty four up 613 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: a spot. The Jets, they. 614 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: Think are the Titans better than all these teams? Maybe? 615 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: I mean, and they were like thirty I feel like 616 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm this like Titans supporter. But all these teams are horrible. 617 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: The Jets are really bad, awful. Yeah, they just fired 618 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: their GM today. I mean, like nobody left the fire 619 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: in the building except for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and this 620 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: is exactly my area of expertise. But I guess Woody Johnson, 621 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: their owner, has serious Trump ties and he may get 622 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: employed by him, and they don't know who's gonna run 623 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: the team. And what a disaster. Yeah, Like Sauce Gardener 624 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: is not playing well, Like you're doing something wrong with 625 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 2: saft Gardener's not playing well. 626 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: They scored a season high twenty seven points last week 627 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 3: and still lost. Yeah at twenty three holding steady. 628 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: Who does want that GM? 629 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: The Saints, Now, nobody's don't want that job. 630 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: Saints were way better than all these teams. Now they're 631 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: back to respectable. Like they're now in the average category. 632 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: At twenty two average, Yeah, twenty two down three spots. 633 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: The Bears, okay, showing signs of life. 634 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: These were the teams early in the season, the Jets, 635 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: the Saints, the Bears that a lot of people this 636 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: is their year. They're really on it this year. And 637 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: now when's the last time it was their year? 638 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it just hasn't been that case. At 639 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: least the Bears and the Saints are haven't made golf 640 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: plans yet. 641 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: At twenty one down three spots. The Bengals, Oh, they're 642 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: bad football team, Matt Oh. 643 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying, man, that would use word bad. 644 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: They're a bad football team. You're four and seven. You 645 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: are what your record says you are. The offensively, they're 646 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: a good football team right in. 647 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: Areas and they lose all their loss The offensive line 648 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: is not good, they can't run the football. 649 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Burrows playing out of his mind. The defense is awful. 650 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: That's a bad football team. 651 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: I just think that's a little low. But let's hold 652 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: out reservation of who's above them. They would definitely be 653 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: ahead of everybody listed for me. 654 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: They're a dangerous football team. 655 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: No question, and they got a superstar quarterback. But losses 656 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: are not explainable. But they're all close. 657 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: To the players I think are getting very frustrated with 658 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: this all. I think Burrow and Chase they're ticking time bombs. 659 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that's one hundred percent. Do you think 660 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: there's actually do you think they make changes? Yes? I 661 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: don't know who they are. 662 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what his contract status is. 663 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: That's very important. They don't want pay two. They don't 664 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: pay two. They probably won't pay two. 665 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there may be some coordinator changes. There may 666 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: be some was the hot name out there. 667 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he might be a position coach next year. Yeah, 668 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: he might not be back. No, they're in a bad 669 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 2: spot considering they have an elite QUARTERBA because they fixed 670 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: nothing this season. No, and the old line investments aren't 671 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: paying on. Oh, they got so many thing is wrong 672 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: with them. Yeah, we don't disagree on them. It's they're 673 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: a dangerous football team. Yeah. 674 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: At twenty up two spots, the Colts. Okay, they're about 675 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: the most average team in the league. 676 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 677 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: At nineteen up two spots, the Rams. 678 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: I think I'd have the Colts ahead of the Bengals. 679 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: Maybe there's where they belong. Rams i'd have ahead of 680 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: the Bengals too. Yeah, Rams are playing better. I trust 681 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: them more, the better coached. At eighteen up two spots 682 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: the Dolphins, I'd have the Dolphins above the Bengals. Yeah, 683 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: I would too. 684 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: It's seventeen down three spots Atlanta. 685 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm starting to lose a little luster there too, Like 686 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: the Bengals like Miami, they don't have any physicality. They 687 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: get pushed around a lot. Not a real tough minded 688 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: team or organization, and overall that starts showing up around Thanksgiving. 689 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still four to zero in our division. 690 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: Division. They're gonna win the division, yeah, yeah, but they 691 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: have to win certain way. Yeah. I don't love the 692 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: defense either. 693 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: At sixteen down three spots San Francisco, that's right. 694 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: I think they have some issues. 695 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: All the Kyle Shanahan love out there. What a great 696 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: coach he is, and I think he's a good for 697 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 3: I think he's a good offensive schemer. I think he's 698 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: a great offensive ski. Yes, I don't know that he's 699 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: a good head coach. 700 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: I think that's a good conversation. Like mcveigh's a great head. Yeah, 701 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, and they always get lumped together. Yeah, I'd 702 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: always lean towards McVeigh. They might be the equal schemers. 703 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Who do I want to run my organization? Who's in 704 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: charge of my billion dollars? 705 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: Because he has years like this? Yeah, and when they're good, 706 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: they're really good. When they're bad, people don't. 707 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: Talk about Super Bowl hangovers anymore for the losing team. 708 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: But it's a grind man. All those guys wanted contracts. 709 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: They played extra football last year, you know, injuries weren't 710 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: kind to them this year. Yeah, Like they get a 711 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: couple of things that are really hurting them. That are 712 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: unusual for them, is they can't put teams away because 713 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: now with the lead, they have one pass rusher, he's 714 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: got a bad hip. They need hard Grave, they need Armstead, 715 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: they need Buckner, they need they used to have eight 716 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: pass rushers like Steeler like these. 717 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: This is what happens when you're good, though, Yeah, get 718 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: those premium. Those guys are all the guys you're talking about. 719 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: There were either big free agent acquisitions or first round pick. 720 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: First round pick. I mean, it wasn't hard to draft 721 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: Nick Boso, Yeah, you know, I mean it's not hard 722 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: to draft power right exactly. And then all of a sudden, 723 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: their offense like lacks explosion, Debo looks slow. Who's the 724 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: game changer? And I heard a good description of Party too, 725 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: like he's really really good, but he doesn't have a superpower, 726 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: you know, like when the going gets tough, he can't 727 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: attack the entire seis kind of Batman. 728 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Batman doesn't have any superpower, right, Batman's all gadgety exactly. Yeah, 729 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: it's all look at these If Batman doesn't have his toys, 730 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: what's Batman? 731 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: Right? Right? Yeah? Rich? 732 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: What was the line of rich, what are you? I'm 733 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: a rich h That was actually Tony Stark line. 734 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, what are. 735 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: You without the suit? And he said I'm a billionaire billionaire? 736 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: Boy? Yeah, phlamport rant whatever. The worst things will be 737 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: out there? Yeah. Uh. 738 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: Fifteen up, two spots, Seattle. 739 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought they were about to get buried and 740 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: the Niners were going to take over, and I think 741 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: they're going the opposite directions. Yeah. 742 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: It's interesting that they get rid of Terrell Dotson on 743 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: their own and then Connor Williams, their center, retires and 744 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: they still win a game again, they still beat Yeah, 745 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: it's promising. At fourteen up, two spots, Tampa Bay. 746 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh, I'd probably have him behind those last two teams. 747 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do that. Although their next two games 748 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: are against Dallas and Carolina. 749 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're gonna be probably end up in 750 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 2: this neighborhood the next two weeks. Yeah, I mean are 751 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 2: they going to bring it? Raise them up? Though? 752 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: When they beat those two bad teams. 753 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't raise them up for being on 754 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: a buy over Seattle or San Francisco. Yeah. 755 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 3: At thirteen up two spots Denver. 756 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: I would have them head everybody enlisted. They're tough. I mean, 757 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: they're physical. They they're good, good at the line of scrimmage, 758 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: quarterbacks getting better. I think they're going to the playoffs. At 759 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: twelve down a spot Arizona, Arizona or Denver. They couldn't 760 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: be more different. They couldn't be more Cardinals. The Cardinals 761 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: are playing better football. Their offense is good. 762 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they make They're not easy to play against. 763 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: Oh, they're really well coached. 764 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 765 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: At eleven up a spot. This is why the Cardinals 766 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: moved down the Texans. Yeah, I'm believing that they're back 767 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: to being a contender. Maybe not Super Bowl contender, but 768 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: I like where they're at. Nico coming back goes a 769 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: long way. 770 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can say that one victory 771 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 3: over a really. 772 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: I like their I like the health thing, though, is 773 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: trending that they're doing. They're dieting more healthy, give you that. Yeah, 774 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: but the offensive line is still a problem. It's a 775 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: problem still with the penalties. 776 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: The left side of that line is bad. It is, 777 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: and you're paying the left tackle a lot of money. 778 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: I hope for his sake. It's injuries and it's not 779 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 2: over for. 780 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: At ten down two spots, Washington, Yeah. 781 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: They're treading the wrong way. They're not a big boy. No. 782 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 2: I would probably pick Houston over it. 783 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: Honestly. They're kind of two fluky wins away from being 784 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: five and six Hail Mary in a game against the 785 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: Giants that they had another kicker. It's still a good story. 786 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: It's still those games. 787 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 2: But it's still a promising year a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 788 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: when they were five in the league. We'll see how 789 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 2: they come back. 790 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: At nine up a spot, the Charger. 791 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there with that. 792 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: At eight up a spot, Green Bay, fine. I don't 793 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 3: know if they're the Juggernaut. No, I think they're good, 794 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 3: not great. 795 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where they'll be this year, but I'm 796 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: not sure any of the teams below them. 797 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Or I don't know that. I don't know that they're 798 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl contender this year. 799 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: I lean that way as well. 800 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: I think the quarterback's still throwing way too many interceptions and. 801 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: Who's the stars. Yeah, I mean it's it's a collection 802 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: of good it's not a who's great. 803 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: At seven, down three spots the Ravens. 804 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that the Steelers are head of the Ravens, 805 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: and I actually thought about that driving here today. I'm like, 806 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: I would have Pittsburgh ahead of Baltimore. I have to. Yeah, 807 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: they have some chinks. 808 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: At six, up a spot. They only moved up one 809 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: spot the Steelers. 810 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 2: I guess we could pretty much know who the top 811 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 2: five is. But I don't have a problem with six. 812 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: I think just Deelers are a better team. I think 813 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: they're better than the Vikings. That's who's at number five. Yeah, 814 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: they're still out there. 815 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: I think the Vikings are kind of getting by on. 816 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 3: They look like they're running on fumes right now. 817 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: Out of the Vikings, behind the Packers, the Ravens and 818 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: the Steelers. 819 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they're eight and two, but the last 820 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: two weeks have not. 821 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: Been No, I don't trust them. I don't trust the quarterback. 822 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 2: I don't trust the cornerbacks. Yeah, the defense lines. Yeah, 823 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: at four, I feel like they're hanging on a by thread. 824 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: Four up a spot is Philadelphia agreed? They would be 825 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: my four. I think the top four are pretty easy 826 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 2: to put. 827 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 3: Their three down a spot Kansas City, Yeah, yeah, I 828 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 3: think you have a Buffalo ahead of them. Two is Buffalo, 829 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: one is Detroit. Yeah, I have the Steelers five. I 830 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: would have the Steelers five too. 831 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got no problem with that. I think the 832 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: four ahead of them are deservedly so I'm not sure 833 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: if Philly is a big time contender or not. Yeah, 834 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: we'll see. 835 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: Let's continue this kind of tire in the next segment. 836 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. That was Eric 837 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: ed Holmes Power Rankings. 838 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: For this week. 839 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: There was an analytics guy that posted something on Twitter 840 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: this week. I guess he has his own website and 841 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 3: it's getting Steeler fans very fired up. We'll talk about 842 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: that next on the Drive. 843 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: And at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and 844 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of 845 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 846 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 847 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolli and he is the Matt Williamson. 848 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: We're just talking about our inadequacies as well. Anything with shovels. 849 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 2: Or any kind of bill drive insdruction. I just don't 850 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: see it or anything musical is I am horrific at. 851 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: I have a little musical talent, but that's yeah. I 852 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: know you're here nor there for like listening to Zeppelin, 853 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: guns and Roses. That's about it that I can do. 854 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: I actually got accused my complete aside here of doctoring 855 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: my son's baseball bat one time in baseball because the 856 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: bat came and had these little things on and the 857 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 3: end of it, and nobody else had the bat I saw. 858 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: I had seen the bat at the Little League World 859 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: Series and everybody's aluminum. People are hitting dingers with it 860 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: at the Little League World Series. I'm like, I'm going 861 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 3: to try that out for my son. 862 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 2: We got it. He hit the ball well with it. 863 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 2: But he was a good player. 864 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 3: He was a good player. 865 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 866 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 3: And then somebody questioned the bat, and the league president 867 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: came out and had these things on me and he says, 868 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: this Batson doctored. I looked at him. I said, if 869 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: you knew how little, how bad, I said, you can 870 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: come over to my garage and you tell me how 871 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 3: I doctored this bat. Because I have like five tools, 872 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: like I wouldn't even know how to begin the doctor 873 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 3: of bat. 874 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: And my father in law has passed away. Is the 875 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: total opposite. I mean that that side of the family 876 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: is wonderful at it, Like when I asked my wife's 877 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,959 Speaker 2: hand in marriage, Like after I teach you to weld, 878 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, that ain't happened it. Yeah, he has anything 879 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: about football, and you know it. It was fine. We got 880 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: along great. 881 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, this leads me into analytics. 882 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: How do you cork a bat? 883 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: I wasn't with the wooden bet. 884 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: I guess you drilled cork in the middle to make 885 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: it lighter, more balls or whatever, and then you'd But 886 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: all you're doing is making the bat lighter. I thought 887 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: it gave it a little more spring or something too. 888 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: Well, you're but it's making the beat lighter. Seeking because 889 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 3: wooden bats are drop threes usually, or the weight is 890 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: so if it's a thirty two inch bat, it's twenty 891 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 3: nine ounce. 892 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 2: I was all proud of myself that I know that much. 893 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: But I put water in my whiffleball bat and sealed 894 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: the bottom. So you did doctor, I did doctor, because 895 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: it sits here and then when you swing, it goes 896 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: to the top. 897 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah boom. Yeah, So analytics. A guy named Kevin Cole 898 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 3: who in his bio. I know that name said he. 899 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: Used to be previously a data scientist at PFF. Okay, 900 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: stats are numbers, numbers are nerds. This is what he 901 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: says in his bios. Stats are numbers, Numbers are nerds. 902 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: Nerds are losers. Therefore stats are losers. Then he puts 903 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 2: out a stat that says the Steelers are on a 904 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 2: run of luckier results since Russell Wilson took over as 905 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: a starter. Three of the four wins were losses if 906 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: you go by my adjusted scores. Okay, but taking this 907 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: a little far now, I mean there's times that you 908 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: win games you shouldn't, or you get a bounce or 909 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 2: something like that. But for the most part, to quote 910 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: you a little bit ago into quote partselves, you kind 911 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: of are what your record is. You know, I think 912 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: there is lucky stretches and unlucky stretches. But I have 913 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: a hard time with that phrasing. Yes, you know, like this. 914 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: Is where the analytics people get themselves into trouble. 915 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, are there stronger eight and twos 916 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: versus other eight and twos? Absolutely who you played and 917 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: how it went and the Giants didn't have a kicker, 918 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: you know, what I mean things like that, no question. 919 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 3: So his the three games that he's talking about are 920 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 3: against the Ravens. He said the Steelers should have lost 921 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: that game twenty one to seventeen. How he comes to that, 922 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: I have no idea. He has some different numbers there, 923 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 3: and that's all well and good. They won the game 924 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 3: eighteen sixteen. 925 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 2: See. I wonder when people do these things like, well, 926 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 2: he should have caught that interception. Yeah, but he didn't. 927 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: But he didn't. 928 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 3: There's a human factor which the analytics nerds don't take 929 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: into account. 930 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: Exactly right, right. 931 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 3: He had them losing the Commanders, the game against the Commanders, 932 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 3: which they won twenty eight twenty seven, losing that one 933 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: twenty five twenty two. Again, I don't know why. 934 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, how trying to react to this and explain it, 935 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: But I don't know how. I'd like the explanation from him. 936 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: Even more baffling to me is he had them losing 937 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 3: the game against the Jets, which they won thirty seven 938 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: to fifteen handily. He had them his adjusted score had 939 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers losing that one's twenty one twenty. 940 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 2: But they won by a time, but they won by 941 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 2: twenty points. They won by more points than he had 942 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: the Jets scoring in his adjusted score. I'm trying to 943 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 2: do the Godfather think as those around you think. I mean, 944 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 2: is he saying like at one point in the game, 945 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: if they just make this fourth down, then the rest 946 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 2: of the game butterfly effect, everything's different. I have no 947 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 2: idea that sounds like predicting things that you really here's 948 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: the thing to predict. 949 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 3: And I hate to even bring it up because this 950 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: is basically trolling. For He's trolling Steeler fans, is what 951 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: he's doing. 952 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and we're helping them and we're helping him. Yeah. 953 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 3: But if you're going to be that moronic about things, 954 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 3: you deserve to be trolled. 955 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Like I look at some postgame stuff, 956 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 2: like some PFF even does, like an adjusted score based 957 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 2: on time and possession and different stuff, and I take 958 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 2: it with a grain of salt, but I look at it. 959 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: Maybe I can learn something. But like that, Jets one 960 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 2: loses all credibility to me. 961 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 3: I won the game by twenty two points, and you're 962 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: saying that they were lucky to win, that they should 963 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 3: have lost at twenty two to twenty one or twenty 964 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 3: one to twenty. Get out of here with that. 965 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, if you Cynthia Freud freedland it and 966 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: say if they played one hundred times, this is the 967 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 2: one outlier. 968 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: Okay, amazing to me how all the Jets games have 969 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 3: been the outlier then this year, right, Like at some 970 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 3: point human factors into this, the humans fact. 971 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: Forget which week the Raiders beat the Ravens, but that's 972 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 2: probably in the top five percent of outcomes, right, you 973 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. But that's happens. But it happened, 974 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: you know. 975 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: Against Washington. The Steelers didn't force the Commanders to jump 976 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 3: off sides on a fourth down. 977 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: Play, but they had some effect. They had an effect 978 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 2: on it though, Right, But the analytics, by analytics standards, 979 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: the Steelers should go for that. I know. That's another 980 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: one that bugs me too with analytics is I really 981 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 2: really like EPA And I was fiddling with their site 982 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: more than I have last night just to kind of 983 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: even learn more. And they have a section of just 984 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: how often did every team make the right call on 985 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: fourth down? And I clicked on it and I didn't 986 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: even look through it, but I just thought, this is 987 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: not the best use of analytics. Yeah, there's too many variables. 988 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: Well, for example, the wind or you know, the Browns 989 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: have attempted how about this twenty four to fourth down 990 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: places I showed a time they're fourteen to twenty four. 991 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: But because they're losing a lot, not because they're analytically driven. 992 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 2: No, right, it's not Dan Campbell who's analytically driven is 993 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: going to go fourth on fourth down. That's his philosophy 994 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 2: or stately with the Chargers when he took over. As 995 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 2: part of the reason he got hired, the analytics folks said, Okay, 996 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: we're buying into this go forward on fourth down. 997 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 3: How'd that work out for him? 998 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: Well? And even the Lions, I mean they lose some 999 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: games because of that stuff, including the playoff game. Now, 1000 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: it helps when you pay soool. You know, if you 1001 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: have fourth and two and I'm gonna behind Panney soool 1002 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 2: with Montgomery or throat to Saint Brown or whatever, then 1003 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: you should go for it, you know. Right. Tomlin went 1004 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: for it more when he had Ben and Bellow and Brown. 1005 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, when they were clicking as the offensively, you. 1006 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 2: Going more for it now than they did last year? Right? 1007 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: You know? Again, tell me the play call, tell me 1008 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 2: the wind and rain and field conditions is Aaron Donald 1009 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: on the field. You know, yeah, is it against the 1010 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 2: steel curtain. Maybe you shouldn't go for it, you know. 1011 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 3: But please, Kevin Cole, get out of here with these 1012 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,479 Speaker 3: lucky wins stuff. 1013 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 2: The Jets one, I mean, if you wouldn't tell me 1014 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 2: the other two, I can write a story that they 1015 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 2: should have lost that game. I'm not saying they should have, 1016 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: but the Jets one could have. 1017 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,959 Speaker 3: It could have, right, They were close. They were close 1018 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: football games. But you can't tell me that a thirty 1019 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: seven to fifteen beat down, right was now somehow a 1020 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: twenty one to twenty loss. 1021 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 2: Well, as I say is they also could have beat 1022 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: the Cowboys at cold correct, you know they were. 1023 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 3: There were some bad luck in those games, yeah. 1024 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 2: Exactly right. I don't get that part. And the Jets 1025 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 2: ones where you lost. 1026 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: This is where the analytics crowd gets themselves into trouble 1027 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,959 Speaker 3: trying to push ridiculous analytics right right. 1028 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 2: And I do think that's one of the problems with 1029 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 2: the analytics community right now is everyone wants to come 1030 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 2: up with something new, right. Yeah, I'm gonna don't work, 1031 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: but mine's better. You know, e p A is great, 1032 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: but mine's better. I've you know created the wheel, I 1033 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: created fire, you. 1034 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 3: Know, like I don't think Tom Hanks on the beach 1035 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 3: fire right, dancing around? No, you you've all these things. 1036 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 2: Come up with something more on it, right, Like I 1037 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 2: remember when I was you know, in the league, yards 1038 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: per attempt was a big thing or yards per play, 1039 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: you know, like people didn't think that way. That's that's great, 1040 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 2: that's a good. Now we can think even further and 1041 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 2: next year we'll learn more. But you're not gonna be 1042 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: able to That was joking, like why we play the games, right, 1043 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 1044 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 3: Why even you don't have to because here's here's what 1045 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: it should be. 1046 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there, Derek Henry is a bad I don't give 1047 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: them the ball, you know. I mean there's a lot 1048 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: going on here. Absolutely, But Matt, that's going to do 1049 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 2: it for the show today. Good one, Absolutely, Marl. We're 1050 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 2: making picks, and tomorrow we're making picks. Yeah. One pick. 1051 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 3: We'll be back again on Friday after the game on 1052 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 3: Thursday night, so we'll continue previewing the Steelers versus Browns, 1053 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 3: will get even a little bit more into it. We'll 1054 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 3: have an injury report to deal with officially at that point, 1055 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 3: but Cleveland on the Road to Cleveland on the Road again. 1056 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 3: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here 1057 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: manning the Justin Miller Hotline, and for Tyler viitt Meyer 1058 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 3: making sure our videos get out on YouTube, which you 1059 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 3: should check out. And thanks more shots at Matt I 1060 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 3: am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to this 1061 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 3: edition of The Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.