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Speaker 1: Watson's suspended for the season, and maybe if it's ten

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Speaker 1: games or more, Cleveland could finish last. But at some

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Speaker 1: point Pittsburgh you think's gonna want to see Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: And rookie quarterbacks generally don't go the playoff. Some of

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Speaker 1: until touchdown. Tommy Maddox got hurt and then I don't

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Speaker 1: think Big Ben lost a game, and they went to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and lost to the Patriots. And then if

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Speaker 1: you look at Terry Bradshaw, you know he started number one,

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Speaker 1: pick bombed out. He was so bad. Early on they

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Speaker 1: were playing Jefferson Street, Joe Gilliam and so if Pickett

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Speaker 1: doesn't start right away, and I think there's sincere about Trubisky.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to run the heck out of Nagi

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Speaker 1: Niaga Davenport from Miami, and Naja Harris has got to

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Speaker 1: be able to carry a big load. They've got to

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Speaker 1: have a backup because they have to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Trubisky's not a guy it's gonna go out and win

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Speaker 1: the games throwing for three hundred yards and he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna bring you from behind. He's a manager. We've seen

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Speaker 1: him last. We saw two years ago him have a

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Speaker 1: really good game in Chicago and beat the Texans, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever duplicated it. But it's

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Speaker 1: still weird to think about the Steelers in last place.

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Speaker 1: New GM on mar Con. But I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: They can be competitive. Competitive can be seven, eight or

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Speaker 1: nine victories. But I feel like if I had to

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Speaker 1: pick somebody right now to win that division, I'm going

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens because of John Harball being a great

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Speaker 1: coach and thinking about what they went through last year

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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson being out and three running backs being out,

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Speaker 1: left tackle Ronnie Stanley being out. I think if they're

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Speaker 1: relatively healthy. They're gonna win that division and they may

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And Cincinnati they'd make the playoffs. Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: I think will make the playoffs. But Pittsburgh, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I've ever picked them to finish last. Texans

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Speaker 1: of the surprise team. That's general. What do you got

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Speaker 1: going on for us to promote? Well? I'm on Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio six stand three times a week. I'm on Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio one time a week, and I tweet on McLean

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Speaker 1: Underscore on Underscore NFL. I got a couple of irons

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Speaker 1: in the fire for the season, and I always like

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Speaker 1: coming on with you guys on Thursday. Mark and John,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you, General. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: debul listening now. We're ready to play Who's Better? Johnny,

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Speaker 1: You're always ready, of course. Let's all right, Let's roll

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Speaker 1: Who's the best. It's not just who's better, boy, who's

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Speaker 1: the best. And it's the best tight end in the

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Speaker 1: history of the Houston Texans not named Owen Daniels. So

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Speaker 1: Owen Daniels is third on the all time receptions list

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Speaker 1: for Your Texans, behind Andre Johnson and DeAndre Hopkins, right,

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Speaker 1: He's in front of Kevin Walter and Will Fuller Arian

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Speaker 1: is after that, then is Brandon Cooks. How about that?

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Speaker 1: But Owen's number three, So Chary, guess who the next

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Speaker 1: tight end is on this list? And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: this necessarily means he's the second best tighten in the

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Speaker 1: history of the franchise, but it's worth noting for sure,

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Speaker 1: Darren Fels, that is incorrect. It's Ryan Griffin. Ryan Griffin

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Speaker 1: is next. He is eleventh on the all time Texans

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Speaker 1: receiving list, immediately followed by Joel Treason, another tight end,

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Speaker 1: and they each played in seventy seven games for the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. That's pretty interesting stuff. Now, Griffin and a

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Speaker 1: lot more cat is because he was much more of

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Speaker 1: a I hate to call him a featured tight end,

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Speaker 1: but in that starting set, if you will, Greeson was

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Speaker 1: often a complimentary player. But Griffin more yards and Griffin

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Speaker 1: more He's gotta have more touchdowns, but he doesn't. Greeson

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Speaker 1: actually has more touchdowns. How about that? That's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: So all I answered in just a second, but question

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Speaker 1: for you real fast. So I was studying a tight

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Speaker 1: end from Michigan whose name is Eric All. He's a

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Speaker 1: good player, really really good player. Draft eligible next year

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Speaker 1: coming up. Yet. Yeah, twenty twenty three and somebody tweeted

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Speaker 1: something about, you know, the Wolverines have not had a

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Speaker 1: Day one or Day around one or round two tight

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Speaker 1: end taken in twenty years. Wow, And I went, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know who that is? A guy who was Benny Joppru.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh in twenty years, twenty thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: Benny jop Rw. Yes, how about that? That hit me?

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Speaker 1: And that's what when you asked the question, the first

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Speaker 1: thing that popped up that and I think that was it.

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Speaker 1: It was not a first or site because they've had

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Speaker 1: guys drafted, but it's always been three guys, and All's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. I could I could see him being in

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Speaker 1: the in the in the top, I can see him

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Speaker 1: being in the top two rounds. When it's all said,

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Speaker 1: Dyson Witten was in that draft, you could have had him.

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Speaker 1: You didn't take him, But both Drew and I have

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Speaker 1: done that before. But let me ask you this, heading

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Speaker 1: into that draft, was job Brew not the better prospect

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Speaker 1: on paper? Yes, on the hoof whatever, you would say,

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Speaker 1: absolutely better prospect. It goes to show you the draft.

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Speaker 1: It exacts science. Witten plays for a thousand years. The

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Speaker 1: rest is history. Yeah, Drew and I have done that

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Speaker 1: a redrafted in the lab. My number three tight end

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Speaker 1: is the guy that And again we get into this,

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Speaker 1: we get into the debate in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: you go numbers or do you go a period of dominance? Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to crazily say that, No, it's just too short.

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Speaker 1: I can't start with it. Why not? Sixteen he was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: He was just incredible. In sixteen fifteen he started kind

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Speaker 1: of showing what he could do, but he always was

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Speaker 1: a really good blocker. Yeah, about halfway through the fourteen

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Speaker 1: season you could see that he was really a good

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Speaker 1: run blocker. But he thought, man, could this guy ever

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Speaker 1: become a weapon in the passing game? And then in

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Speaker 1: fifteen you start to see it. Sixteen it blows up, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Brock can't get the ball to hop Um

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Speaker 1: who By the way, it was interviewed about his suspension,

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Speaker 1: he said it was had to be contaminated because he

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Speaker 1: said he's all natural um, which I thought was typical. Yeah, Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Fedortz was so good that year in sixteen, and you

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Speaker 1: thought we have found it, we have found the you know,

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Speaker 1: the marriage of Gronk and Owen Daniels. This is the guy.

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Speaker 1: And then in seventeen he has a concussion issue and

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Speaker 1: he's out. He's out of football after three games in seventeen. Basically,

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Speaker 1: so Fedorwitz is the guy that I would want to say,

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't know I could say that

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Speaker 1: I am actually gonna I'm gonna go with Ryan Griffin.

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Speaker 1: All right. I think that's fair. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: body of work and everything and more complete over the years.

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Speaker 1: I would say, he's he's it's got it's got to

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Speaker 1: be him one, It's got to be him. Fedorowitz has

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Speaker 1: six touchdowns in twenty six fewer games played than Ryan Griffin. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting. Six tds he played in fifty one games.

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Speaker 1: This was no slouch performance in a short amount of

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Speaker 1: time by C. J. Fiedorowitz. He just gets so forgotten

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Speaker 1: because of obviously the way that I went down. But man,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he was as good as we as. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna beat Owen Daniels and and Owen fit that

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Speaker 1: offense so perfectly. Yeah, So nobody's gonna ever beat Owen Daniels,

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Speaker 1: but CJ was on his way to at least being mentioned. Hey,

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Speaker 1: who are the best tight ends of Texas history? Own?

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Speaker 1: Damn Fedorowitz? After that? Who cares? It's those two? But

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Speaker 1: then he gets hurt. I just think of the big

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Speaker 1: place he made in sixteen. I mean I catch Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night against the Colts down the seam to tie the

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Speaker 1: game and send an overtime, and just how incredible that was.

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Speaker 1: And he was such a weapon that year. I just, man,

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Speaker 1: you know what that would be up? What are that

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Speaker 1: nice to see? That would be a good That's a

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Speaker 1: good offseason topic we need to do a show on

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Speaker 1: at some point. Got I don't want to call one

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Speaker 1: year wonders, but guys that really didn't for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: but they had that one year too soon Steve Slayton. Slayton, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a wonder yeah. Or it was short a time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to come up with a statement. I said

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Speaker 1: too soon, meaning like they left us too soon in

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Speaker 1: a football sense. Those are two that come to mind.

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Speaker 1: There would be others. I'm sure it was the fourth

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Speaker 1: leading tight end on the receptions list in Texans history. Fourth. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is interesting to me. I would not have guessed this.

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Speaker 1: It's Jordan n Aikins, followed by Billy Miller and then

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Speaker 1: Garrett Graham. They're all pretty close together. After that, Fedorowitz

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Speaker 1: is down the way and then James Casey and you

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00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: know he takes a while to takes a while to

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Speaker 1: get to Darren Fells. By the way, we have thrown

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Speaker 1: a lot of tight end paint on a canvas. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: actually I mean a ton, I would I would say,

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Speaker 1: just first glance, we have spent more draft capital on

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Speaker 1: tight ends over the years than any team in the league. Well,

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Speaker 1: considering that it's not a large position group, right, right,

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Speaker 1: you keep three or four right, sometimes maybe even two,

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Speaker 1: So it's not a large position group. We should research

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Speaker 1: this because offensive line picks okay, and you know they

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Speaker 1: haven't picked that many offensive linement over the years relatively,

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Speaker 1: but for the size of the position group, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys or a ton of guys drafted at

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Speaker 1: the tight end group, not a lot of guys at

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Speaker 1: running back. And we can go over some others. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but just think since twenty eighteen, right, yeah, so Fedora

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Speaker 1: Wooz has to retire after seventeen, So the Texans don't

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Speaker 1: pick to a third round. Eighteen they pick Jordan n Aikins,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas, twenty nineteen they pick Wearing. They don't pick

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Speaker 1: one to twenty because they're as many picks. Twenty one

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Speaker 1: and they picked Brevin, and twenty two they picked Teague. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's five tight ends in in six

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Speaker 1: six dress. Eventually we'll get an All Pro out of this.

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Speaker 1: Sin wants to go to the Pro Bowl? Yes, next

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Speaker 1: two's better? You're ready for this one. Who's better at

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Speaker 1: quarterback from here on out? From here from this day

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Speaker 1: moving forward? I'm gonna throw this one at you before,

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Speaker 1: but it's always worth playing again because it's a hip

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. Who's better from now on?

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Speaker 1: Pick it? It's not Kenny Pickett. Here's here's the thing

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Speaker 1: that that stuck with me and and in this I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say this, this is a weird thing

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Speaker 1: to say, but Patrick Mahomes really hasn't hit and we

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Speaker 1: don't really know how Mahomes is going to deal with adversity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so how does he adapt? How does he like you're

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Speaker 1: three and five or something like that, how do you

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Speaker 1: deal with it? You know? I mean remember a fear

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Speaker 1: brings them all the way back, beats us, beats everybody else.

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and and one, a couple of playoff games

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Josh Allen because I think Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: came into the league and had to fix things right away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had to fix stuff right away. He couldn't be

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Speaker 1: wyoming Josh. How are they gonna take this wild stallion

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Speaker 1: and turn him into secretariat? And the Bills did it,

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Speaker 1: and Alan worked at it. He's now secretariat. Mahomes comes

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Speaker 1: into the league and he's dropped into one of the

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Speaker 1: great situations. First of all, he doesn't have to start

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Speaker 1: the first year. He can just sit and watch Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: Then he's he is surrounded by a great offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Pat and Travis Kelly, along with Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid call and plays. Josh Allen wasn't dropped into quite

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Speaker 1: that situation. He had to kind of work through it.

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Speaker 1: But I think Josh Allen has worked through it to

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Speaker 1: a point where he's gonna get better and better. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: has to make some changes in the way that he plays.

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Speaker 1: He's got to make some changes and can't be he

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Speaker 1: can't beat we say Wow wowt me, Josh. He can't

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Speaker 1: beat Texas Tech Mahomes. He's got to go back to

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Mahomes. Yeah, he made some you know, incredible throws,

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Speaker 1: you know, the no look throws, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's really not what I'm saying. But Patrick will get

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Speaker 1: He needs to be a little bit more. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to reel him in as being a gun slinger,

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Speaker 1: but he's got to rain that end. He's still the

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Speaker 1: wild stallion that Alan has evolved out of. Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: still that guy, but he's so daggum talented. Well, it

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Speaker 1: has and it's in He's worked out of it. But

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Speaker 1: he's now with a team and with people around him

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Speaker 1: that are gonna need him to be a little bit

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Speaker 1: And he can't be as gunslingersh because he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: Texas Radio markin manager Mayor John Harris with you. Who's better? Johnny? Next?

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Speaker 1: Who's better? Because we couldn't get to these in the

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Speaker 1: last segment because we are rambling. But that's what we do.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of what we're paid to do. Actually, who's better?

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Speaker 1: As far as the near miss playoff teams I'm about

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Speaker 1: to name from last year, Chargers, Colts near miss and look,

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Speaker 1: the Colts had that horrifying loss to the Jaguar the

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Speaker 1: last day of the regular season. Chargers had that Raiders,

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Speaker 1: could you please give us a tie? Loss in the

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Speaker 1: Raiders unwilling to do it. They had that to deal

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Speaker 1: with as they missed the postseason. Both teams did. They're back.

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Speaker 1: They're different, especially with the Colts and quarterback. Who's better?

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00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Let's rifle through this? Watch this okay offensive line, Colts,

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Speaker 1: quarterback Chargers, wide receiver Chargers, running backs Colts fairly even

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Speaker 1: except for the fact that the Charges at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: defensive line close, but it's Chargers now with Khalil Mack

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Speaker 1: and with Joey Bose, Oh my god, unbelievable linebackers. Gotta

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Speaker 1: go Colts defensive backs. That's a close one. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to the Chargers because the Chargers have

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Speaker 1: Jacy Jackson. Now, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you forget about him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got you. But if the Colts test the fund Gilmore,

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Speaker 1: I would say Jackson a little bit more talented, and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers have Derwin James. Well, you got Kenny Moore

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Speaker 1: and Gilmore back there for the Colts, and you got

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Speaker 1: Durwin James and Jason Jackson. It's Chargers. It's Chargers by

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Speaker 1: app air a hair. But because of Justin Herbert, I

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Speaker 1: give it to the Chargers. They're better, but in the

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Speaker 1: division AFC South, not as tough as the AFC West

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Speaker 1: on paper anyway, that there is that, But I think

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think the Chargers are the most talented

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Speaker 1: team in the league. Wow. I think the Chargers the

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Speaker 1: most talented, most talented team in the league, not the

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Speaker 1: best team. I think the best teams the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: anymost talented team, the Chargers but that's all got to

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Speaker 1: come together and those guys have to all be healthy. Remember,

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Speaker 1: we played the Chargers, and I'm not want to take

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Speaker 1: away from our winning. It's the Chargers. There's no Bosta,

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Speaker 1: there's no Derwin James, there was no Rashawn Slater. That's

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Speaker 1: three all pros. Now go over who the Texans were

739
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Speaker 1: missing that day, I know, But my point is with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers though. When that group is all healthy, it's

741
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Speaker 1: a nasty, nasty group. Nasty group. And if Herbert is

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Speaker 1: playing now, he does he have to play at at

743
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Speaker 1: a herculean effort type level. He just has to play

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Speaker 1: his game, not turn the ball over and do what

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Speaker 1: he does. I think the Chargers are the toughest out

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. I think the Chargers and the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Chargers and Bills. I just I think the

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Speaker 1: Chargers have got what it takes if those editions stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: They added Zana Johnson the offensive line. I think the

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Speaker 1: Chargers are gonna be a tough out and they're coming

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Speaker 1: back to NRG Stadium. So the Cults opening today. Take

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Speaker 1: it information on the Texans app or Houston Texans dot com.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out, all right, final, Who's better of

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Speaker 1: the day and of the week, who's better? As far

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Speaker 1: as what's better now, what's the better? No dog in

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Speaker 1: the fights sporting event. In other words, you don't have

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Speaker 1: anybody to root for here, College World Series or any

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Speaker 1: other college event outside of the NCAA tournament or football,

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Speaker 1: So you gotta leave basketball and football out of it,

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Speaker 1: CWS or any other college event that you might like

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Speaker 1: to follow. What's better to know? Like the weirdest secret

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Speaker 1: of mine. You know, it's one of my favorite events.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch all the time. It's not always on

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Speaker 1: I can, I can't always find it. Yeah, but one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite events to watch college volleyball. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, I love college volleyball male female, No either one.

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Speaker 1: There is a quarterback coming out of Long Beach, Long

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Speaker 1: Beach Polly. His name is Nico Ea Melvo. He's like

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Speaker 1: six five six six and he's like two hundred ten pounds. Allegedly,

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Speaker 1: there's an n il deal on the table for him

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Speaker 1: for eight million dollars to go to Tennessee. So I

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Speaker 1: go to search him and trying to find some highlights,

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Speaker 1: and the first thing that pops up, Nico volleyball highlights. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna click this. I click it. I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, this dude is an unbelievable volleyball player. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And he's like Vince Young on the field. Is he

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Speaker 1: an outside hitter or is he's he's an outside hitter?

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Speaker 1: Like he brings funk and he can get up. It's

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Speaker 1: fascinated to watch him. I love college volleyball, but College

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Speaker 1: World Series at Rosenblatt was the best thing ever. I

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00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: like it okay now, and I still watched, like I

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Speaker 1: watched the games last night. It was finally got a

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Speaker 1: great game. But at Rosenblatt Stadium it was something else. Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was special. When you said the other day you

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Speaker 1: had called the College World Series at Rosenblatt, I was

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Speaker 1: just I was dying with envy. I'm just like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to go and I always always missed it.

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Speaker 1: So College World Series is very very close. But in

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Speaker 1: Rosenblatt it took the cake. But man, there are so

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Speaker 1: many of these other great events. I mean, like college volleyball,

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Speaker 1: I just I freaking love it. And if you've never

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Speaker 1: been to a Lord of Vision, I actouldn't say the

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Speaker 1: Lord of Visions it sounds bad, but an FCS championship game,

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Speaker 1: Like I went to a D three championship game in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I saw Saint John's from this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw them take on Mountain Union. Mountain Union was

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Speaker 1: on a fifty eight game winning streak and Saint John's

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Speaker 1: upset them. It was the coolest game. It was the

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Speaker 1: coolest experience. It was really really neat to watch football

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Speaker 1: teams playing for a national championship was really cool. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take every other college van because I get

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Speaker 1: college volleyball championships and I also get lower division. Oh

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Speaker 1: you said I couldn't have football. You can't have I

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Speaker 1: can't have football. I'm still gonna go with that because

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Speaker 1: I get a number. I get a number of those championships.

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Speaker 1: Men's volleyball is the most underrated NCAA sport that no

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Speaker 1: one gets to see. The women gets seen, and that's

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00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: a great sport. Yeah. The men's game is so fast

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Speaker 1: and furious it's ridiculous. And I think the Frozen Four

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Speaker 1: is an excellent event. Oh yeah, that's a good love

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Speaker 1: the Frozen Four. But I gotta have the big names

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Speaker 1: in there. I cannot have Minnesota Duluth in the Frozen

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Speaker 1: Four or Denver. I know, Denver's a great school. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be a Denver fan hate now. You know it's

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Speaker 1: a good one too. What it's belichick favorite Lacrosse Final

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Speaker 1: four is awesome? Yeah, that is an awesome, great college,

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Speaker 1: fun sport. All right, that's gonna do it for the

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Speaker 1: show tonight. Thanks Johnny. We'll be back tomorrow talking Texans,

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Speaker 1: talking everything else in sports? Do we Yes, we do

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