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Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's neon o'clock for our friends in Birmingham, Alabama, where

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Speaker 2: the Meat Eater Live Tour will visit in a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday, November thirteenth, and we're live from Meet Eater

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Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by

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Speaker 2: Steve and Cal. Now today's show, we'll interview Sean Conrad

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Speaker 2: about catching world record fish. Then Steve and Cal will

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Speaker 2: compete in Meat Eater's Price Is Right, And finally we'll

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Speaker 2: interview Steve Powell, the co owner of North American Diving Dogs.

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Speaker 1: Gonna whoop your ass Steve.

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Speaker 2: There we go, Ella, you got you got something to

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Speaker 2: talk about here first before we do the rest of

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If people are wondering why I'm why I'm dicking

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Speaker 3: with my phone, it's our our friend and colleague Dave

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Speaker 3: Smith at you know, Dave Smith Decoy's sent this thing

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Speaker 3: this morning. There's a hunter who's a good friend of

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Speaker 3: Dave's named Devin Dobek, who on October thirty sent a

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Speaker 3: satellite text message in mount Hood National Forests sent it

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Speaker 3: on October thirty at seven pm, sent a satellite text

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Speaker 3: message saying he'd killed a buck. It was going to

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Speaker 3: take a while to pack it out. No one's heard

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Speaker 3: from him since, so hundreds of volunteer searchers, search and

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Speaker 3: rescue Sheriff's department can't find them. They're going to call

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Speaker 3: off the search. Dave sent me a GoFundMe link because

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Speaker 3: the family really would want some closure here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they're trying to raise money for to

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Speaker 3: keep people in the field, could have her dogs like whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: What's the go fundme called?

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Speaker 3: And Dave's been helping out on it. Man, I think

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Speaker 3: it's called Help Find Devon Dobek mount Hood National Forest,

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Speaker 3: Fish Creek. That's gotta be what it's called, right, cal,

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Speaker 3: I mean if that's the big title, Yeah, help Find

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Speaker 3: Devon Dobek d e v O N d O b

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Speaker 3: e K. I'm trying to right now put a thing

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Speaker 3: on Instagram about it.

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Speaker 1: Can we put a link in the chat? Phil? Does

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Speaker 1: that work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll find a link, a share link and put

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Speaker 5: it in there.

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Speaker 3: So Dave's been volunt Dave's been volunteering in the search.

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Speaker 3: Oh just.

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Speaker 2: What a feeling sad story. If you go to the GoFundMe,

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Speaker 2: you can try to help bring Devon home.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are deep in the bullpen of media

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Speaker 2: radio host today. It was supposed to be Randall in

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Speaker 2: cal seat, and then yesterday afternoon and Randall said, boy,

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Speaker 2: I'd really like to go to your hunting Corey. Could

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Speaker 2: you co host tomorrow? Corey said yeah, I'll do that.

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Speaker 2: And then last night at like nine pm, Corey texted

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Speaker 2: and he said, uh, hey, I would really like to

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Speaker 2: go Elk hunting in the morning. Cal. Can you host? Cal?

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Speaker 2: Would you tell?

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Speaker 5: Him?

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Speaker 3: Said?

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Speaker 1: No problem?

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Speaker 2: And no problem. So we're on our our third relief

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Speaker 2: host here today, Ryan Callahan taking over for Randall, taking

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Speaker 2: over for Corey. And I've heard some good news from

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Speaker 2: Corey this morning. He killed a bull.

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Speaker 3: H thank god. He's getting a little powdery looking yesterday

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Speaker 3: he's looking a little.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's yeah, I don't know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. You got to got to chip in where

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Speaker 1: he can get in the woods.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve, Steve has really created a culture around here

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Speaker 2: skipping work to go hunting. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: You are like a no hunting rule until until Steve's

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Speaker 3: tagged out.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's the adult culture of get your stuff

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Speaker 1: done court, don't taking a hassle for somebody else.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you were here, didn't you get a powery

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Speaker 3: feeling off Cordy. Corey been helping a lot of other

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Speaker 1: True help another.

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Speaker 3: He didn't say like, bye, golly, I've been helping other people.

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Speaker 5: Fil I think Corey's Corey's earned the right to be

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Speaker 3: That's coming from the king of Snip over.

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Speaker 5: There too, proud of that title.

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Speaker 2: So as we as we sit here, Corey right now

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Speaker 2: we'll get that first look at a bully.

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Speaker 3: Dude just having such a technical struggle. Go ahead, keep

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Speaker 3: doing the show. I'm almost with.

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Speaker 2: You, okay, uh, I just got home from a haunt, Steve.

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Speaker 2: You just got home from a haunt. Cal I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you're either coming or going from a haunt right now.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you boys about the time I killed

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Speaker 2: the biggest buck of my life? Yeah, just the big

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Speaker 2: biggest buck of my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all those big old white tails you got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm flattered to think you killed that. I killed

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Speaker 2: bigger deer than that before. That's that's my biggest I just.

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Speaker 3: Feel like you guys in South Dakota shot all those

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Speaker 3: giant white tales all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not not as big as this one.

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Speaker 3: I'm about getting wrapped up over here. But keep going.

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Speaker 2: The hunt story itself not that terribly interesting. I think

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Speaker 2: the interesting part is how I got access to this place.

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Speaker 2: This was just a door knock.

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Speaker 1: I went to tell that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got permission here last year. This year, I

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Speaker 2: was trying to get this permission again, struggled to get

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Speaker 2: they were snowbirds, So my landline phone number I had

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Speaker 2: was not reaching them. The letter I wrote them was

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Speaker 2: not reaching them. I just need to confirm that I

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Speaker 2: could hunt there exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you didn't want to do that. Well, you

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Speaker 3: gave me permission one time, a long time ago. Before

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Speaker 3: I'll hunt the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: That that doesn't fly. So I was desperate to get

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Speaker 2: done before. I found out, uh, their adult child who

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Speaker 2: And I figured out where they worked, and I took

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Speaker 3: But retraining order.

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Speaker 1: I said, So I slept in the parking lot. So

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Speaker 1: I told them home.

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Speaker 3: I put myself in a large box.

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Speaker 2: That's right, their oldest child. I opened the email by saying, uh,

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Speaker 2: let me put this out there first. I think what

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Speaker 2: I'm doing is very inappropriate by reaching out to you

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Speaker 2: here at your work email. Uh, this is you know

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Speaker 2: who I am. I got permission for your parents last year.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get permission again. It all worked out.

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Speaker 2: I got in touch with them just hours later because

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Speaker 2: of that. And and then I went and I killed

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Speaker 2: my biggest dear ever that that Phil has a few

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Speaker 2: pictures of this Mulely was was coming off of a

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't have gotten that.

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Speaker 2: What what do you wish I got?

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Speaker 3: I wish I knew he was just still out there, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, what kind of interesting because that's a young face

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Speaker 1: to me, but great forks.

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Speaker 2: I mean I he had an enormous body, the biggest

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Speaker 2: So I I don't think that that was a.

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Speaker 3: Aren't too jealous before you? I'm jealous for you? What's

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Speaker 3: it call when you just don't when you just see

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Speaker 3: something in the makeshift set?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Jealousy?

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Speaker 2: Jealousy? Okay? Yeah, yeah, so so very thrillout. I'm squirrel

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Speaker 2: something that that happened there was I got the worst

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Speaker 2: case of buck fever I've had quite a while. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: when do you guys not get buck fever anymore?

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Speaker 1: Certain circumstances. I like what I'll tell you, Like, I

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Speaker 1: can feel it creeping in and there's a mental decision

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Speaker 2: I agree with you this this buck in particular. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: the moments of me realizing just how big he was

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Speaker 2: were very brief between me me learning that and me

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Speaker 2: shooting him. So the buck fever set in and I

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Speaker 2: autumn and it didn't build up. The worst buck fever

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Speaker 2: I'd ever had in my life was my previously biggest deer.

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Speaker 2: I killed with my bow and I had to watch

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Speaker 2: But this this deer was a reminder of like what

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Speaker 2: the shakes can really feel like. Yeah, yeah, you said

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Speaker 2: sometimes it happens, cal.

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Speaker 1: Oh, for I think all the time. It happens if

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Speaker 2: It's kind of fun. Though when it happened, it is

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Speaker 1: Well it's a drug, right, it's adrenaline. And I yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had this amazing, very brutal hunt with just like

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Speaker 1: and behold, there's this three point mule deer buck in

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Speaker 1: ever seen. To this day, just like all bronzed up

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Speaker 3: The zandlers, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: The deer start filtering through this little pocket. There's all

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Speaker 1: I'm like, totally set up, rock solid, very close, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I shot

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Speaker 1: the opening. I was like here he comes back, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, and you know, mentally,

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Speaker 1: like you know, like they don't know exactly where it's

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Speaker 1: coming from. They heard a big ou noise, a big

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Speaker 1: smack in front of him. I had time to shoot

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Speaker 1: this buck again, and I was so I was beating

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Speaker 1: myself up so hard immediately. Yeah, as he was going

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Speaker 1: was on him. I was solid. It was a moving shot,

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Speaker 1: but it was like that going away thing, and I

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Speaker 1: just knew I could kill him, and I said, you

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Speaker 1: don't deserve this, And I didn't pull the trigger. I

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Speaker 1: was so, so so pissed at myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve buck Fever, when's the last time you felt it?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something

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Speaker 3: funny first, because this pertains what I'm gonna say. My

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Speaker 2: Yeah, different points in our lives. Yeah, give me more

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Speaker 1: it's just well, the whole theater thing. It's all about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like like two shows into the tour. Uh, he

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Speaker 1: Stage God, rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: That's just down opener. Yeah you know, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just part of my process.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your ozone machine or your iv that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. We're gonna move on with the

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Speaker 2: now is Sean Conrad. Him and his twin brother Adam

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Speaker 2: have caught fourteen world record fish. Sean, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Is that possible?

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out how we going, Sean, you currently

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Speaker 2: hold the world record for rainbow trout and burbot. No,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear both those fishing stories. But first

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Speaker 6: Well, it actually started two months beforehand, where actually a

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Speaker 6: I think he thought the world record was twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: So obviously, my brother and I every weekend I lived

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Speaker 3: You guys were targeting at like you're targeting a specific fish.

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Speaker 6: Yes, because it had like certain marks on it wasn't

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Speaker 6: and caught him at ten o'clock in the morning.

440
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: Wow, what secrets can you tell us about catching that fish.

441
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 2: As far as bait you were using, it is you

442
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: were targeting stuff like that.

443
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 6: We usually target them in like drop offs and uh

444
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 6: and holes, but we used bait on bottom Cisco's Harrying smelts,

445
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 6: whatever you have at the time, and you literally just

446
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 6: bait and wait for those fish. And we tried, you know,

447
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 6: we would try like four or five different areas, and

448
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 6: we actually caught that fish in an area that we

449
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 6: never really started burbot fishing then, and now that's one

450
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 6: of our favorite spots.

451
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: Do you set are you setting tip ups or rod?

452
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 6: And real, well, this was actually open water, in flowing

453
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 6: water in a river in March.

454
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: See okay, yeah, Sean, Do you get any kind of

455
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 2: buck fever when you're reeling in one of these giant

456
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: fish that may or may not be the next world record.

457
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 6: I remember hooking that fish and I had thrown my

458
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 6: rod out and I was eating a salad when you

459
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 6: catch a fish, and my rod just kept bouncing like

460
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 6: in the current, and I'm like, why is it bouncing?

461
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 6: Why is it not stopping? And that fish must have

462
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 6: ate it on the drop or when it's just got there.

463
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 6: And then I knew when I was really and I

464
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 6: saw it. It it got me pretty nervous. I knew

465
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 6: I had the world record on and got in the

466
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 6: net and I just had a big sigh of relief.

467
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 6: And actually the guy that had caught that fish two

468
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 6: months ago was on shore and he asked me how

469
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 6: it wasn't, like, well, we got we got the fish

470
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 6: we were after. And he's like, no, way, that is

471
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 6: amazing a fishing or fishing in a boat. This was

472
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 6: this picture was taken on a bank, but we were

473
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: in a boat.

474
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we're looking at a picture of that

475
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: world record right now.

476
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: Now.

477
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: I noticed that all of your burbot records are from March.

478
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: What is it about that month that makes burbot fishing

479
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: so good?

480
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 6: March is when they start to spawn. They're at their

481
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 6: fattest with the eggs. If you can get those fish

482
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 6: before they spawn out, they're the heaviest they'll ever be,

483
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 6: and they start congregating in March. In certain areas, you'll

484
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 6: get ninety percent of the fish in like a five

485
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 6: percent area of the lake, and then you could just

486
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 6: target and catch quite a bit more, and you just

487
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 6: keep weed throwing them until you get your big one.

488
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: Do you guys eat burbot?

489
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 6: Yes, delicious. The five to ten pounders are our favorite.

490
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: Got it?

491
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 6: You just get You don't get as much meat as

492
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 6: you would off a walleye, but you get the backstraps,

493
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 6: tail meat. If they're big enough, you can take the

494
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 6: belly meat.

495
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do that. Belly meat's pretty fantastic. You

496
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: fry that stuff.

497
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, cuts cut it in strips, kind of like calamari.

498
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 6: It's it's firm and you get cook in any way

499
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 6: you like. It's delicious.

500
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Do you get any bycatch when you're targeting these giant burbot?

501
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 6: Yes, walleye, white fish and rainbows.

502
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

503
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: Can I ask you bird? I got a burbot question

504
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: for you. Might love to just ask a question.

505
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: Go for it here.

506
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: My birthday is on February thirteenth. Yes, okay, So we

507
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: go to For a few years on my birthday we

508
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: would go set tip ups through the ice for burbot.

509
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: One year on my birthday we go out. I can't

510
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: wit we catch twenty four burbot. A big group of people.

511
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: We catch twenty four burbot. Yeah. Next year February thirteen zero.

512
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: The next year February thirteen zero, fishing the same stuff.

513
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: What is your take on that. This is a big resermee.

514
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 6: So usually burbot will spawn in different areas of the lake,

515
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 6: and every year is a bit different. And actually some

516
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 6: years it's actually tough for us to target them in

517
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 6: March because they're all they all moved.

518
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: So they're all somewhere and not where you are.

519
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to find them. And that's Adam and I.

520
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 6: We guide and we have to be on fish and

521
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 6: we have to consistently move. We noticed that if we

522
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 6: fish a spot one day, the next day it's not good,

523
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 6: so we have to consistently move. So I feel like

524
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 6: in your situation.

525
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: We were fishing for last year's fish man.

526
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's the same thing. And you're you're always

527
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: fishing the same numbers, where Adam and I were always learning,

528
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 6: always moving.

529
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: Yep, advice, I feel like that's what happened. You also

530
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: have the world record rainbow trout that you caught on

531
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: September fifth, two thousand and nine. Tell us about that catch.

532
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 6: The uh wrong picture I lived in. That's a big

533
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 6: brown for a little bit, but uh.

534
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: Come on, get the right fish up there. Man, he's

535
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: got his head thinking about.

536
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: You're just trying to make friends with this guy.

537
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: We wrongfish.

538
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: We're gushing over other big fish pictures that Sean has.

539
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: Phil is going to go back to picture two and

540
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: that will be the record. There. Go ahead, Sean, tell

541
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: us about that fish.

542
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 6: I I just quit work Friday. I took my daughter

543
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 6: believe she was two or three, and drove to my parents'

544
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 6: house in Saskatoon. Got her to sleep around eight thirty,

545
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 6: and then I took off around nine. We fish at

546
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 6: dark for these rainbows. Met my brother and we fished.

547
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 6: We caught, you know, we were trolling. We caught a big,

548
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 6: like eight pound walleye. We had caught like an eight

549
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 6: pound rainbow before that. And then noon or midnight came

550
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 6: minnek in. Then we caught. I hooked this big fish,

551
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 6: and I know it was big because the big ones

552
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 6: they just they start rolling behind the boat and then

553
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 6: you just can't move them, so you just hold the

554
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 6: hold the line tight and uh yeah, like netted it.

555
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 6: We're just like, well, we better weigh this thing because

556
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 6: we are filling our biggest net up with this fish.

557
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: Wow, the world record burbot you knew was in those waters?

558
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: Did you know the next world record rainbow was swimming

559
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: there as well.

560
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 6: No, we were guiding hard in two thousand and nine

561
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 6: or eight before we caught this fish. We stopped guiding.

562
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 6: We had caught that year, I think three other or

563
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 6: four other forty pound rainbow was that rail too. That

564
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 6: was the year of the giants two thousand and nine,

565
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 6: and then we just went out after guiding with we

566
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 6: were done, and yeah, we knew there was giants that year,

567
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 6: so we just fished hard, and yeah, it broke my

568
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 6: brother's world record.

569
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: Now ten of these world records have been line class

570
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: world records. Explain what that means to folks who aren't

571
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: familiar with the International Game Fish Association record keeping.

572
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 6: So IGFA has different world records. The first world record

573
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: Adam and I broke. We had caught a thirty three

574
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 6: pound rainbow on twelve pound I believe it was twelve

575
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 6: pound test. And we knew that there were different world records.

576
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 6: So if you caught a fish that was you know,

577
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 6: let's let's say thirty pounds on six pound tests, you

578
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 6: could look up to see if that is the heaviest

579
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 6: fish of that species on a certain line, so and

580
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: then you can register. But I believe you have to

581
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: be a member to do that, just to see what

582
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 6: they have for weights in line and so there's different

583
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: types of world records. There's line classes and then there's

584
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 6: all tackles. So our first one was a thirty three

585
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 6: pound line class world record.

586
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any all tackle records?

587
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the rainbow and the bourbon.

588
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: Oh, those are all tach he has both of those.

589
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 6: Those are like the biggest in the world ever recorded.

590
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: Man, are there any other dudes?

591
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Uh?

592
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Where do you sit in terms of in fresh water

593
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: at least? Like are there a lot of dudes that

594
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: have a handful? Like do you know what I mean?

595
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Is it like the kind of thing when there's certain

596
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: guys that are filling that slot again and again.

597
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 6: Adam and I our goal was to get every line

598
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 6: class world record rainbow, So we would specifically spool our lines.

599
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 6: I think it was called Pea line. We would buy

600
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 6: Pea line and we would buy like twelve pound and

601
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: we would just pool that rod and real twelve pound

602
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 6: Pea line Because then when you do catch a line

603
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 6: class world record, you've got to send your line in

604
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 6: for break testing, and if it breaks higher, then you're

605
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 6: bumped into a different category.

606
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: I feel like maximum is that way.

607
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we have to buy SPC and we have

608
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 6: to buy a specific waste scale, and then we had

609
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 6: to get the fish weight properly if it was a

610
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 6: world record, take it in and get certified with a

611
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 6: biologists and stuff. So there's a there's a bit to it.

612
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: God, you guys make me feel like I've wasted my life.

613
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Dude, you and you put.

614
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: The professional right there.

615
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, you and your brother have broken each other's records.

616
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: When that happens, are you happy for each other or

617
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: is it really competitive for you too?

618
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: No?

619
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 6: We love to bump questions off each other and techniques

620
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 6: and we're always learning. If we go to a lake

621
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 6: and we get skunked, why did we get skunked? What?

622
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 6: What did we do wrong? How should we change our techniques?

623
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 6: What should we do different? What area is a like?

624
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 6: Time of day? It's just like deer hunting. When is

625
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 6: that buck coming out?

626
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: You know?

627
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 6: Is it coming out in the morning or evening? And

628
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: where is it? You got to you gotta learn and techniques.

629
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 6: So fishing is what Adam and I do. We bump

630
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: stuff off each other and then we learn. So we're

631
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 6: always we're not competitive when it comes to that.

632
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: But you do call your bro and be like, hey,

633
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: you know that we were really proud of its right,

634
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

635
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 6: I think when I caught the burbot, I was Adam

636
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: was a little bit jealous because you know, I had

637
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 6: caught the rainbow and now I caught the burbot, and

638
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 6: then I caught a great big brown trout after that,

639
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: and he was like, why are you catching all the

640
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 6: big fish. I'm like, well, I don't know, I don't mind.

641
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: Are you married?

642
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm not.

643
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Okay, no, my brother is what was going to be

644
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: your responsive? He said, yes, oh, just if his wife?

645
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: Are you talking trophy? Class of wife is no?

646
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: No, no, no, like if his wife if she if she

647
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: if she sees a big burbot, does she know enough

648
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: to know she's looking at a big burbot? Meaning if

649
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: we come home and show you know, we'll be We'll

650
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: come home and show my wife stuff. And she's like,

651
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: if you say so, it looks a lot like the

652
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: other ones, a lot like the other ones. You guys, brow.

653
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: Sean, all of your world record rainbows and burbot have

654
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: come from Lake Diefenbaker in Saskatchewan. What is it about

655
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: at water that allows it to produce such big fish?

656
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 6: For one, it's a damn the reservoir loaded with ciscos.

657
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: It's just they have so many ciscos in the lake,

658
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: so it's got good forage we catch. We caught a

659
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: forty inch burbot guiding last year and the up in

660
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 6: the lake. And when I say the lake, we're actually

661
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 6: targeting a lot of these world records down below the

662
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 6: dam where these ciscos come through the dam and they

663
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 6: get chopped up. So these fish are just chowing down

664
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 6: and they're getting huge.

665
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Is that Is that true? I've read that before, But

666
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: is that true that fish coming through those turbans are

667
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: actually chopped up and not just shove through it.

668
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 6: Yes, it depends what turbine and where it is. But

669
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 6: the ones we're seeing are getting chopped up, you know,

670
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 6: and then they just sink down and then.

671
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 3: Just coming out like chum. Yeah, you know.

672
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 6: And then just these fish just gets so big they

673
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 6: get to world record size.

674
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Give some advice, I to listeners who want to target

675
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: really really big rainbows and burbots, like you do your.

676
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 6: Research, honestly, it's honest the same as deer hunting. You

677
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 6: have to know what lake produces big fish. Adam and

678
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 6: I we would see an article of a big fish

679
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 6: being caught. It was Montana. I think a thirty thirty

680
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 6: three pound rainbow was caught there Lake Cootin. Yeah, Cooton

681
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: River sold it down there, and Adam and I went

682
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 6: and we caught a thirty three inch rainbow like our

683
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 6: first time. It was like almost near twenty pounds. You know,

684
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 6: so certain systems produce big fish. So do your research

685
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 6: and then figure out your techniques and learn, Yeah.

686
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Do you have a white whale? Is there a world

687
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: record that you're pursuing right now?

688
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: I was targeting the actual another world record bourbo. I

689
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 6: was trying to break it and I had caught I

690
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 6: was doing on video and I caught a twenty two

691
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 6: pound or two years ago. It was three pounds under

692
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 6: my world record bourbot. And this was that she and

693
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: Alberta like that was producing some giant burbot. So as

694
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 6: for targeting world record, I think it's the brown trout

695
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 6: because we're right now, Adam and I are actually targeting

696
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 6: a world record brown trout, and it's they're tough, but

697
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 6: we see some brown trout that are rising that are

698
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 6: in that thirty plus to forty pound range.

699
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: When you break that record, you come back on this

700
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: show and tell us that story.

701
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 6: Yeah brown trout.

702
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Now, Sean, you want to know my claim to fame

703
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: up in that country.

704
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, tell me.

705
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I got offered a bartending job there in Riverhurst one year.

706
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's where we guide out of around there.

707
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: They kind of offer those jobs.

708
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Everyone that it comes through the door gets a bartending jobs.

709
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: A sketch one, but yeah.

710
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Kel cal braggs about getting uh brags about getting offered

711
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: bartending jobs.

712
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a hit with the locals. We used

713
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: to go up there and and and hunt ducks every year,

714
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: got some friends that live in town and had a

715
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: place to crash. It was everything you needed when you

716
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: had little bird dogs to run with.

717
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, one last question. All right, let's just say

718
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: a fella is just looking out, you know, just to

719
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: catch fla sized berb it. Yeah through the ice? Do

720
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: you like? Are you laying like? Let me tell you

721
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 3: what we do and you tell me where I'm wrong.

722
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: We run tip ups with braid down to a floral leader,

723
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: a small treble in cut bait, laying on the bottom,

724
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: where do you not like? What do you not like?

725
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 6: That's perfect and then fish into the night. And then

726
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 6: your second line you would be hitting bottom, pounding bottom

727
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 6: with some kind of a glow glow tube with bait. Okay, yeah,

728
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: and lay it on bottom. Now find your depth to

729
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: put your tip up and I would say fifteen to

730
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 6: twenty feet and maybe set up your shack in about

731
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 6: twenty five feet in February. And then and also if

732
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 6: you're not catching, then go deeper, go up to go

733
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 6: to twenty thirty five feet to forty feet those bourb

734
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: it will be all over the place, so interesting and

735
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 6: then awful lake. Yeah, go ahead.

736
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: Sorry, you like the tubes, huh.

737
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, tube jigs work, yeah, absolutely, we love tubes. But

738
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 6: also you know, we'll use heavier, heavier jigs with heavier heads,

739
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 6: maybe that glow. And then you put your bait on

740
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 6: there and you really want to hit bottom hard. You

741
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 6: want that thump, you know, and just consistently do that,

742
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: and it's kind of like just like bringing them in

743
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: making noise down there on the bottom. It just seems

744
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: to work.

745
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: Cool.

746
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Sean last thaying, tell folks about the guiding service that

747
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: you and your brother own.

748
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 6: We're fishing geeks here. We guide Lake Diefenbaker. We've been

749
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 6: guiding full time since twenty eighteen, part time since two

750
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: thousand and eight. So and this is our job. Just

751
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 6: take take people out fishing and hopefully catch them the

752
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 6: fish of their dreams.

753
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: You guys have quite the hasn't made to convince folks

754
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: to fish?

755
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, thanks for coming on, appreciate the information.

756
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Thanks, good luck with your world record brown trout.

757
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 6: We'll try.

758
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

759
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

760
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: To be clear, he has caught the biggest rainbow and

761
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: the biggest burbot in the world. Those are two of

762
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: his fourteen records. The other twelve are the line class

763
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: records we talked about.

764
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: To be frank with you, I respect that burbot one

765
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: but more Oh hell yeah.

766
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Well that thing was so baddy cool.

767
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: That looks like something you drug out of a cave

768
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 3: in the ocean. Man.

769
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break for some list of feedback. Phil,

770
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: what's the chat have to say?

771
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see here. Well, back we were talking about

772
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 5: Randall taking time off and Corn as well. Nick is

773
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 5: asking do you meet either employees need to take PTO

774
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: to go hunt or is that just a perk of

775
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 5: the job.

776
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

777
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Bill, what do you do when you when

778
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: you go hunt, you.

779
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 5: Taket or of course I'm a company man. I let

780
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 5: my manager know, and she in turn lets her manager know,

781
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: and uh, you know the eye across the ts.

782
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just took a little PTO.

783
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but that was to go to Portland just

784
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: to hang out. I didn't do any hunting.

785
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: Now, I just noticed you had a little PTO thing

786
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: on your email.

787
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: There no cue paying attention.

788
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: We do some stuff like a normal office. We block

789
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: off our calendars, we write emails, tell folks we're going

790
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: to be out of the office hunting. So yeah, it happens.

791
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh can you take that leopard shark one?

792
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 5: That was gonna be my next one? Here he goes

793
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: from will question for the crew. I just got back

794
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: from diving in California. Saw a bunch of leopard sharks.

795
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 5: I read that they are good eating. Have any of

796
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: you harvested shark with a spear? Is it good eating?

797
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 6: Oh?

798
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: Spear?

799
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 6: No?

800
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: Roden real yes, and man, you gotta trim them sharks anything.

801
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: You gotta trim the fat off. You gotta trim the

802
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: you know, the the purple tell I'm trying to say,

803
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: bloodline type, bloodline stuff. There's a layer that sits between

804
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: the meat and the skin. If you trim it up,

805
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: it's good. If you don't trim it up, you are

806
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 3: in for a bad meal. He's spilled a bunch wrong.

807
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: But I've had a lot of shark fresh shark that

808
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: I think is fantastic eating. But yeah, oh, you.

809
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: Gotta trim it. You gotta trim it as bad as

810
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 3: you gotta trim a flathead catfish. It is good whatever,

811
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, this is as essential.

812
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: What else Scott film?

813
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: This is from Leland? Howdy? Is there any idea of

814
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 5: doing a meat eater history book on the French coups

815
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: de bois or the voyageurs. I don't know if you've

816
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: looked into that for that French stuff for your history,

817
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: Steve at all. Is that peak your interest?

818
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: I think that we will maybe, I think that we

819
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: will get to that with our American history series. Yes, great,

820
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: even though it's Canadian history. So that's what makes it

821
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: a little bit tricky that it makes a little bit tricky.

822
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: In every one of the series, we talk about what's

823
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: going on north of the border, and we throw to

824
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: those guys in both The Mountainmen and the Hide Hunters,

825
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: but never dove in. But when I was a little

826
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: boy growing up in Michigan, you would study those guys.

827
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: They would teach you that stuff in Michigan history.

828
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is Oh, this is another one from Will.

829
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 5: I have found that when I am on long long

830
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 5: hikes or hunts, I almost always get a song stuck

831
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: in my head, usually rambal On by Zeppelin. How do

832
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 5: you guys pass the time mentally on long hikes? What's

833
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 5: running through the noodle?

834
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: We talked about this briefly. Esjay Randall said that he

835
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: just he really hates himself, so when he spends time alone,

836
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, he just sits there thinking about the things

837
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't like about Randall. That's what I'm answering for Randall. There,

838
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: I think about what I do like about Randow.

839
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: That's how I passed.

840
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: That's what I'll think about this week.

841
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I think songs are great. I definitely do some singing

842
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: to myself and by proxy whoever's around me. I packed

843
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: out a full mule deer boned out mule deer up

844
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: a very very steep slope and just found like I

845
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: was never ever going to get the top of the

846
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: ridge if I stopped, because stopping can kind of become

847
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: an addiction where you're like, well, I'm gonna get up

848
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: to here and stop. I'm gonna get up to here

849
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: and stop. And so I made up like a very

850
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: all theatrical song, one man play phil of getting the

851
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: buck to the top of the mountain. Oh, it was

852
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: basically like, how do you get a buck to the

853
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: top of a ma ton? And then you can kind

854
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: of any other version.

855
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to use that.

856
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: This is from or Mogor.

857
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 5: I also I saw your message earlier about sending us

858
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 5: your address for those cookbooks you won last week. Don't worry,

859
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 5: mog Or, we will get you your cookbooks. I'll make

860
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 5: sure that somebody saw that email. But your question is

861
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 5: for cal how much will your new CEO role at

862
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: BHA affect your appearances on the shows? I hope you

863
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: still drop in from time to time.

864
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the plan. I obviously this is

865
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: like a huge challenge and it's new, and I have

866
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: a giant learning curve so time is going to be

867
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: a factor, but no one, no intent to drop off

868
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: the face of the world, the meat Eater world over here.

869
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: And I'll still be weekly host on the podcast too, So.

870
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: I would like to I'll touch on next. I would

871
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: like to be able to be Cal's uh you know.

872
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: I would like to be able to be a great

873
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: place for Cal to come tell folks what what he's

874
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: doing in his new role and what his priorities aren't

875
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: his new role, so invitation stands. So if he doesn't

876
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: come out, it's not my fault.

877
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 5: Phil's clear sure this from Friday Arrows. Phil, When will

878
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 5: we get an animated version of your Dungeons and Dragons episode?

879
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: That's a great question. That would be a dream. I

880
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 5: don't know if if Steve, you're your your American history

881
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: guy will also work on the D and D episode

882
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 5: that I did. But I love someone who can capture

883
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: just the look of bewilderment on Cal's face at every turn,

884
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: or maybe Brody decapitating the cat with a sword. That

885
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 5: would be fun.

886
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: So Steve has to decide, so that'd be great.

887
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 5: See, I don't think you're aware that I that I

888
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 5: I guest hosted trivia and instead of playing a game

889
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 5: of trivia, I played a game of Dungeons and Dragons

890
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 5: with the crew.

891
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: I've heard about that, but I don't know what that means.

892
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: You can watch it at some point or door, don't

893
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: you know. It's up to you.

894
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: All right. Our next segment pretty it crushed on YouTube

895
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: like our best trivia of the year.

896
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: I think it's congratulations.

897
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: It was fun.

898
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: All right.

899
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: Our next segment is brought to you by Case Knives,

900
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: handcrafting high quality knives since eighteen eighty nine. Check them

901
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: out at case knives dot com. All right, this is

902
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: the price is right.

903
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Here.

904
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting ten minutes.

905
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: It's The Prices Run. Steve Ranilla, come.

906
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: On down, first time on the show.

907
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: Ryan Callahan, come on down. You're the next two contestants

908
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 5: on Media Radios The Prices Run. Okay, now here's your host,

909
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 5: Spencer new.

910
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: Right.

911
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.

912
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: Thank you.

913
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: Did you watch that documentary about that show?

914
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 4: No?

915
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: I didn't even know there was one.

916
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: Uh yes, I did.

917
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 6: Well.

918
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: The guys that gamed it, yes, but.

919
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: By gaming just like knew the answer.

920
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: No, they gained it by like like a sort of

921
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: memorization experts who got into who got into these like

922
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: catalogs of MSRP pricing. Yeah, and we're able to commit

923
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: thousands and thousands and thousands of prices to.

924
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's like some trends in there too. And yeah,

925
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: that that was But yeah, I think that the beef

926
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: was like, you guys are ruining the show by being

927
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: too good.

928
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, by memorizing it all point being they get in there,

929
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: that they when all the people are waiting in line

930
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: to come in. This kind of surprised me. They have

931
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: these sort of profilers. Yeah, they go outside and just

932
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: hang around the line and they're just watching how people

933
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: interact conversations. They kind of get some interactions going and

934
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: they're just in their head going like he'd be good. Sure,

935
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be good, he'd be good, he wouldn't be good.

936
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: And they knew how to get selected. Yeah, they would.

937
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: They would dress in a certain way to be noticed

938
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: but not noticed in the wrong way, and they would

939
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 3: like they knew who they were looking for to engage with.

940
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: But then I think they had to, like they knew

941
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: those people, they had to those people had to start

942
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: bringing guests who they hoped would get picked, and then

943
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: the like real brains, the operation was in the audience

944
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: somewhere giving clues by and you know.

945
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: Because you know, the audience can yell.

946
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Yes the Dollar died.

947
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: Well he would look and there's this guy going Dollar

949
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: Toy died.

950
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about picking those people out of the

951
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: document famous.

952
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: He became famous in the audience, and so people would

953
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: be like, let's see what yes, Bill has to say?

954
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 2: What you hope you're playing on a day when Bill

955
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: is there?

956
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the documentary called?

957
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: Well, I told you I haven't seen it.

958
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: There was some real sad part of that documentary though,

959
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: where Bob Barker just looked older.

960
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 5: It's called Earth Perfect Bid The Contestant who Knew Too Much.

961
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we all know it because it was

962
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: featured on Delta Delta.

963
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: So that's you were talking about picking people out of

964
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: the line. A very proud vain moment for me was

965
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: my wife and I were in New York City. We

966
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: went to a taping of Stephen Colbert in twenty eighteen,

967
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: and when you're coming in, they just like have ushers

968
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: that seat you somewhere and if you're you know, the

969
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: attractive couple, they'll put you up front. And so they

970
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: pulled us from the back and put us at the front. Yeah,

971
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: so we could be seen in the audience and like.

972
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 3: People would feel like they're watching the right show exactly.

973
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just like setting the mood for the show.

974
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: If that attractive man likes the show, then I must

975
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 3: be on the good right thing.

976
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exact kids club.

977
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: All right, cal Steve, grab your whiteboards. This game is

978
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: real simple. Phil is going to tell you about a

979
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: product from the meat Eater universe and you need to

980
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: guess its price. The player with the closest answer without

981
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: going over will be declared the winner. If both players

982
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: go over, then you'll both be told to try again,

983
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: and the chat should play along as well, because whoever

984
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: has the closest answer to the correct answer, we'll get

985
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: a shout out from Phil. All right, there are three

986
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: products up for bid today, Phil get us started.

987
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: Well, our first item up for bid today is the

988
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 5: Hunter's Specialties butt Out two.

989
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: I know that tool.

990
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 5: Now, we know you're probably saying to yourself, but self,

991
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: the betout one was perfect.

992
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: What could they possibly improve on?

993
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 5: Well, the betout too has an extra two inches of

994
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: handle that creates the patented butt stop to give you

995
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 5: better grip and control of the tool. It's never been

996
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 5: easier to remove the anal canal of a white tail, antelope, bear,

997
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 5: or hog. And Hunter Specialty says it's made out of

998
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: sturdy plastic that can withstand repeated use, so you can

999
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 5: hand this heirloom down to the next generation of deer gutters.

1000
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: That's what Steve is planning to deal.

1001
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: We'll show you a thing or two or you don't

1002
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: need that thing now.

1003
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: On Amazon it has four point seven stars from over

1004
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: four thousand reviews. Phil is showing his pictures of the

1005
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: butt Out two right there, and here's the butt Out one.

1006
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: You can see where they change the design to give

1007
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: you that special butt stop with a little extra plask.

1008
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: Can you show me the butt stop again?

1009
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 2: Okay, this is butt Out one that you're looking at,

1010
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: and we'll get a butt Out two in a second.

1011
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1012
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Sure, that's your big improvement for butt Out two.

1013
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: And we're trying to figure out what that butt Out

1014
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: two is going to run.

1015
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: What does that cost? And if you go over, you're

1016
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: just out of the game. Almost both of you go over.

1017
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: So Stephen cow will come up their price. Now, I

1018
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: can't even fathom what they'll do for butt out three.

1019
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: What could they possibly come up with next?

1020
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: A real sharp knife?

1021
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: I like how on the description it's like, here's these

1022
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: animals they could work with, and it's like or anything.

1023
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: With it does say any big game sized animal. Yeah,

1024
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: it's is pretty vague. Now this is the price from

1025
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: Hunter Specialties.

1026
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, you got you can't do that because all

1027
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: kinds of dudes are putting down what they think it is.

1028
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're paying along as well. Yeah, it's just what

1029
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: we trust that you're honest, and you.

1030
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: Are he wrote mine. Okay, Cal, go ahead.

1031
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: And reveal your answers. We have Cal saying twenty two

1032
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: to ninety nine and Steve says twelve dollars. The correct

1033
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: answer is lower than both of those, so we're both

1034
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: going to try again come up with a new price.

1035
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: It is less than twelve dollars. Steve's guest was twelve.

1036
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: We know it's less than that. Both of you come

1037
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: up with the new answer and try.

1038
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: That's stupid. Why who's close?

1039
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: We're playing the prices, right? You got to argue with

1040
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: the prices.

1041
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: Just because someone does something dumb doesn't need you two.

1042
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: All right, we have Steve, who now says eleven dollars

1043
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: and Cal says six ninety nine. The correct answer is

1044
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: eleven dollars and ninety nine cents. Steve was only a

1045
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 2: penny off his first guest.

1046
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 3: But these are.

1047
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: Prices, right rules, Steve, So you were you were one.

1048
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I wouldn't pay any attention what they do.

1049
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: I will tell you though, Steve, Steve deserves little accolades here.

1050
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: That's the first I think that is the first price

1051
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: is right answer. I've been wrong on.

1052
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Cal is dominant at this game, Steve. Just so you

1053
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: know you're going up against you know, the Michael Jordan

1054
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: of Meat Eaters Price.

1055
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: I had a conversation Cal was or not cal Clay

1056
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: was shaming me about this about what Clay was shaming

1057
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: me about. Not knowing the eggs had gone up in price.

1058
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't if I go to buy eggs,

1059
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get the eggs. Jemmy, I don't go like,

1060
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: am I gonna buy eggs or not? Like when I

1061
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: wake up and I say to my little body, we're

1062
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: going for breakfast eggs, I'm just gonna buy eggs. So

1063
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: I don't go and see, it's just not gonna matter.

1064
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna buy the.

1065
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: Weather topic on the during the last this is before that.

1066
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 5: It was okay, this is before.

1067
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: That, so eleven ninety nine. That is from Hunter Special website.

1068
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: So I needed this butt remover. You can probably be like,

1069
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get the butt remove.

1070
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: It is on sale at Shields right now for seven

1071
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: ninety nine. So if you're in the market for a

1072
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: butt out, to check out Shields.

1073
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we have a handful of people, guess right

1074
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 5: on the money. We've run into that problem before, Steve.

1075
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: I've called people out and they've been very defensive about

1076
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 5: how they are.

1077
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, guilty, Nate, JH and gone fishing Duncan.

1078
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe a few more too, but those are the

1079
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: ones I saw.

1080
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: Suspicious. All right, Phil, What have we got next? Oh?

1081
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 5: Great question. Our next item up forbid is your very

1082
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: own colony of taxidermy Beetles.

1083
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: Wow.

1084
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 5: This dermistic Beatles super kit from Skull Taxidermy comes with

1085
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 5: over two thousand bugs that are shipping right to your

1086
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 5: front door. They guarantee a mix of adults, larvae, and

1087
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 5: pupe pupa that will have you cleaning skulls in just

1088
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 5: three to four weeks. The super kit also includes plenty

1089
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 5: of betting for laying eggs, as well as two pages

1090
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 5: of instructions on how to care for your beatles.

1091
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: You feel not to be clear, you're paying for the

1092
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: Super Beetle Kit plus shipping from Deer Lodge, Montana. These

1093
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 2: are going to come round.

1094
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: Whose idea was to include this? These are great idea? Hey,

1095
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: I saw a question about skunk spraying. Can you hang

1096
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: on to that one for me?

1097
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a bookmarked, so what that was.

1098
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: A great That was a great That was a great call.

1099
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1100
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1101
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: I have no no clue.

1102
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: You're getting two thousand bugs and they guarantee a mix

1103
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: of adults, larva and PUPA wow in that two thousand

1104
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: bug mix.

1105
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 3: This that's a great question.

1106
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: In three to four weeks, you're going to be cleaning

1107
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: your first skull.

1108
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1109
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: And this is a flat shipping rate. It's just convenient

1110
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: that is coming from Deer Lodge, but their website says

1111
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: it's cost the same fear shipping to Georgia.

1112
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: I don't like all these guys writing numbers down on

1113
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 3: that thing.

1114
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: You've already locked in your answer, I Suppish says, keep

1115
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: to themselves. Cal, are you ready reveal your answers? Cal

1116
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: says it's forty one dollars. Steve says it's one hundred

1117
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: and twenty dollars. That's a rag dancer, Yeah it is.

1118
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: It's two hundred and forty six dollars and fifty cents.

1119
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: So Steve was the closest and he was only half

1120
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: away there.

1121
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: See, how do you how do you put a price

1122
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: on that?

1123
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, these folks did what they did.

1124
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: But picture like what he's got to have going on

1125
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: to be able to have that. You know what I'm saying,

1126
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: that's a lot. That's something I could never guess because

1127
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: like the amount of headache, and that might just be

1128
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 3: a side hustle, like they're probably you know, they're cleaning,

1129
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: that's right, and they got access and I don't know,

1130
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: it's probably name your price because there's probably not much competition.

1131
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: That's two hundred and thirty dollars for the Beatles and

1132
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: sixteen dollars and fifty cents for shipping, and that's.

1133
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: A great Friday Friday Arrows Guest two thirty in the.

1134
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: Chat well done, Friday Arrows. Steve has now officially won

1135
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: the game. But we'll see if you can't get the

1136
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: clean sweep. We've got such a product, so we'll see

1137
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: if you can get the clean sweep and make Cal

1138
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: run around the building naked as is tradition. Phil, what's

1139
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: the third item.

1140
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: Lucky employees?

1141
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 5: Our final item up for bid today is a sign

1142
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 5: photo of Stephen Vanella. This eight by ten photo of

1143
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 5: a handsome young Stephen is for sale on eBay.

1144
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: Right, you remember that, I do? But how does he

1145
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 3: have that?

1146
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 5: He's standing on a stump staring.

1147
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: Into the magazine Men's Journal. It's probably Cal's bow with

1148
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: his hand. That's had no idea, obviously, Steve, actually my signature.

1149
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 5: Well, let's see here. The seller guarantees it's the real

1150
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 5: deal because the signature has been verified by Beckett Authentication Services.

1151
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: Just smudge does that much?

1152
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: Does that look like your signature?

1153
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: Have that picture?

1154
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: It's just someone on you gotta have this. We put

1155
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: Steven a real pickle here, making him guess what his

1156
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: autographed is hot.

1157
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: They found they brought out like kids, medium black T

1158
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: shirts for the shoot.

1159
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: I was like.

1160
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: Without his belly button getting exposed it was brutal and.

1161
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 2: St on a stump. That's that's a nice little touch.

1162
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: When was this photo taken?

1163
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: We got a lot of jokers in the chat guessing

1164
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 5: stuff like five cents one dollar.

1165
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: That's what I wrote down.

1166
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: If somebody put it on e Bay.

1167
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: That's right.

1168
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: This is for sale on eBay right now, so if

1169
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: you like the price. When we revealed weekend.

1170
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: Cal's dog passed away.

1171
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, this wasn't the big fish was Uh,

1172
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: your oldest boy was just a baby. I mean he was.

1173
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: Under at the same time.

1174
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: How many years ago?

1175
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: Was a long time ago, But I was I was

1176
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: entertaining and Steve's kid, uh by letting him shoot arrows

1177
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: up into the sky, I'd hold onto the bow. Oh,

1178
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: and he'd crank that back and let it go.

1179
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: That very safe activity. Would I pick this item? I

1180
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: had no idea. That was cow. No, I have not

1181
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: bought it. I bet by this episod's over. That thing's

1182
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: off eBay. Someone's purchasing calcul I'll send you one. Do

1183
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: you have a price, Go ahead and reveal your answers.

1184
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Cal says fifty dollars. Steve says one dollar. The correct

1185
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: answer is eighty five dollars. Eighty five dollars that could

1186
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: be yours. It's free shipping or best offer, it says.

1187
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: So if you're in the market first time, Steve, maybe

1188
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: try to lowball him before you pay for We had a.

1189
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: Couple of people get it right on the money, but

1190
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 5: Garrett got in pretty quickly and he guessed eighty four

1191
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: ninety nine. I think he's being true, truthful. But then

1192
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 5: we had Big Dough pot pipe in and says eighty

1193
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 5: five dollars.

1194
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: I just bought it. Well done, Big Dough. I'm gonna

1195
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: verify that. I'm gonna go look on at you ban

1196
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: and see if that's still for sale.

1197
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you bought it, I'll send him another one.

1198
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: Now, this seller has all kinds of autographed photos up

1199
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: for sale. I found some comparisons. If you're interested, Steve,

1200
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 2: so the first one here, If you've got sixty five

1201
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: dollars to spend, you can buy a signed picture of

1202
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 2: playble bunny Sierra Price.

1203
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: What was it? Blurret out, Well.

1204
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: Because it's kind of scandalous. It's a playboy bunny whose

1205
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: photo you're buying.

1206
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: Nobody's asking whether or not the signature is real.

1207
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: I notice, uh, huh. So that's that's if you got

1208
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: sixty five dollars. If you got eighty five dollars, you

1209
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: can buy a signed picture of Caine Hodter, who of

1210
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: course played Jason Vorhees from the Friday the Thirteenth movie.

1211
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: So that's the same price as Steve's signature. Now, if

1212
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: you've got real deep pockets, you're looking to spend one

1213
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen dollars, you can buy an autograph photo

1214
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: of rock and roll Hall of Famer Don McLean, who

1215
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: wrote the world's greatest song, American Pie. So twenty dollars

1216
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: more than your autograph, Steve, Don McLean.

1217
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the objective here?

1218
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 2: Just one, which is fun. Let's all this is where

1219
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: you ran your celebrity is between Playboy Bunny and Don Matillia.

1220
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good place.

1221
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: To Actually, someone's like, how famous I'd take exactly? How

1222
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: let's go to eBay heard of I'm not quite the

1223
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: guy American Pye, but but I do trump some playboy buns.

1224
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: That's right, Steve wins. Anyway, he got his two points.

1225
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: Well done, Steve. All right, let's do our final interview

1226
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: of the day. Joining us on the line. Last is

1227
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: Steve Powell, the co owner of North American Diving Dogs. Steve,

1228
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

1229
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 4: Are we doing, guys?

1230
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: For folks who aren't familiar, what is doc diving?

1231
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: Doc diving is as simple as its dog running down

1232
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 4: at jumping into a pool.

1233
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: Okay, and no weird rules? Are there any weird rules?

1234
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: Or is it just simple where they throw the bumper

1235
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: and the dog jumps as far as they can.

1236
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: It's pretty much that simple.

1237
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

1238
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: You got a dog that loves to chase a toy

1239
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: and loves water. It's that easy.

1240
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 5: Hey, Steve, really quick, can we get you a little

1241
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 5: bit closer to your computer? Please? Thank you so much.

1242
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: I'll just move in we go.

1243
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: Steve, walk us through and what the best breeds are

1244
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: for dock diving.

1245
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: Well, you guys are hunters, so obviously one would be

1246
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: any kind of retriever, your labs, your short hairs, things

1247
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: like that, wire hair pointers. Then you have your sport dogs,

1248
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: your malonoise, you got whippets, pretty much any dog of

1249
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: any size, they just need to be driving.

1250
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: And describe us like the perfect dock diving dog in

1251
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: terms of personality, age, sex.

1252
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: If you have a dog that is psychotic, and you

1253
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: don't want any part of dealing with it. Most of

1254
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: the time, that's probably your best bet because they'll just

1255
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: do whatever you want them to do and they'll give

1256
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: a thousand percent.

1257
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. Is there a dock diving goat

1258
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 2: the greatest of all time when it comes to jump

1259
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: in a long ways in water?

1260
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: There absolutely is. She lives in Washington. Dog's name is Sounders.

1261
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: It's a whippet. Holds the world record at thirty six

1262
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: feet eleven inches.

1263
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: Whoa what makes Sounders so good?

1264
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: Sounders as fast? Sounders is athletic and he just wants

1265
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 4: that toy.

1266
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: Okay? How did this become so popular and and go

1267
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: from being an obscure sport to being on ESPN?

1268
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 4: So the things I've heard is that somebody was out

1269
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 4: with their dog. It was jumping off the dock at

1270
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: the lake, and somebody thought, you know, I can probably

1271
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: get a group of people together and we can try

1272
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: to make that happen and make the company out of it.

1273
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 4: With competition, you know how people are They wanted my

1274
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 4: dog can beat your dog, you guys hunt My buck

1275
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: is bigger than your buck. My fish is bigger, right,

1276
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: So it's just a way to make make it more competitive.

1277
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: Huh, okay, cal, how would Snort perform at these competitions?

1278
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: Not?

1279
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: Well, she's a little bit too much of a thinker.

1280
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: The the cutest story I have about this though, because

1281
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: I went to a Ducks Unlimited banquet here in Bozeman

1282
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: met this little old lady who told me the reason

1283
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: she was there. She's not a hunter. Her dogs and

1284
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: doc jumping competitions. I said, well, how'd that happen? And

1285
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: she's like, my husband just passed away. He had this

1286
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: black lab that was totally his dog. Doesn't like me

1287
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: at all, doesn't pay attention to me, doesn't listen to me.

1288
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: And I was riddled with Gil about getting rid of

1289
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: the dog. And there was a doc jumping competition that

1290
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: had like open enrollment some and so she just did it.

1291
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: And now her and the dog travel all over doing

1292
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: the competitions and they love each other perfect. It's amazing, Steve.

1293
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: Do hunting dogs ever show up at your competitions?

1294
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, lots of times. We have tons of hunting

1295
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: dogs that they come and they're just I mean, it's

1296
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 4: their thing, right. They either they do hunting trials, they

1297
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 4: duck hunt, They pheasant hunt. They liked chase of Bumper

1298
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 4: And the biggest thing is that the guys will bring

1299
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: it or their wives, like in the story just told

1300
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: they just want to do something with the dog and

1301
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, my dog loves water. So there's numerous yes.

1302
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: And if cal wants to get into doc diving, what

1303
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: should he do?

1304
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 4: So North America Diving Dogs we have close to ninety

1305
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 4: facilities across the US and in Canada. We have eight

1306
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: mobile docks that set up at AKC shows and we

1307
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 4: put on and do try its, which is a thing. Otherwise,

1308
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 4: facilities are a good place to learn and to train,

1309
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: and then they also have events.

1310
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: And how do people watch your competitions?

1311
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 4: So when we're doing events at shows or at facilities,

1312
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 4: I would say probably ninety five percent of the time

1313
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: public's welcome and there's no charge. We also we are

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Speaker 4: teamed up with AKC and AKCTV. We get usually two

1315
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Speaker 4: events here that they film and then those can be

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Speaker 4: seen on ESPN or ESPN two.

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: Good stuff, very entertaining.

1318
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: I got a question about a quick question about the

1319
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: cognitive ability of dogs. We used to have a labrador

1320
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: that love She would jump off the end of the

1321
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: dock like that, and it was one of the problems

1322
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: if you were out swimming, she would then swim over

1323
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: and scratch you to all hell, thinking she was somehow

1324
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: going to climb on you somehow. But like I think,

1325
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: I thought about, let's say you had a dock and

1326
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: you do that all the time and then one night

1327
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 3: the lake freezes. It would be very interesting, do you

1328
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: follow me. It would be very interesting to see if

1329
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: to test or see if the dog, like how the

1330
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: dog comprehends that. Do you know what I mean?

1331
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: Well, one, I was afraid the dog wouldn't get hurt

1332
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: if it did do it. But the other thing is

1333
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: you're calling out like a lake in a pond, is

1334
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: that there is a difference to the dogs. If you

1335
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: got a dog that jumps at the lake a thousand

1336
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 4: percent has zero issues with it. It'll do it all

1337
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: day long.

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01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: Huh uh.

1339
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: You bring them to clear water, which we have in

1340
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 4: the pools, and it'll it'll throw them off.

1341
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: Oh is that right? They got like a certain environment

1342
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: they like, yeah.

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1344
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: I had a gentleman that came to my facility and

1345
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 4: he had a hunting title dog and he was like,

1346
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: this is gonna be no problem, and he expected his

1347
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 4: dog was just going to go in. He spent twenty

1348
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: five minutes with his dog just sitting on the platform,

1349
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 4: just going, what are you expecting from me? It had

1350
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: no idea.

1351
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: Do you ever find that there's dogs that like it

1352
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 3: so much that they do it in the absence of

1353
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: the toy?

1354
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,959
Speaker 4: Absolutely. We have actually a few dogs that yeah, they'll

1355
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: bring them up on the dock and uh, they'll go

1356
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: go and the dog just jumps.

1357
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: Jumping. Oh.

1358
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 4: The worst part is they opened the gate to let

1359
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 4: him on the dock and the dog runs and jumps in. Luckily,

1360
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: we have it called the practice so they can take

1361
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: a practice jump and when they see that happening, they're

1362
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: like practice.

1363
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, well that's fun, Steve, Kelly, get anything else?

1364
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: No, that's it.

1365
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.

1366
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: All right.

1367
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Steve, and thanks for entertaining

1368
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: us with those wet dogs.

1369
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 4: Not a problem, guys, thank you for having me.

1370
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: All right.

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01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of this week's show, Phil,

1372
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: let's do some final feedback from the chat.

1373
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 5: Sure, Steve, you wanted to talk about this question from Evan.

1374
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 5: Will a skunk spray when shot with a bower rifle.

1375
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well right, and like the guys using injectors now,

1376
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: like damage control guys. They use these like long hole,

1377
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 3: these long poles, and they have an injector. They can

1378
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: inject it so it doesn't spray. But the thing it

1379
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: used to be that if you if you can jab stick, yeah,

1380
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: if you could hit it in the heart, well the

1381
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: twenty two it'd have about a fifty percent chance of spraying.

1382
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 3: But then I calculated that you got about a fifty

1383
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: percent chance of hitting it in the heart, so the.

1384
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: Twenty percent chance.

1385
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, they they'll cut loose.

1386
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 5: Lance showed up late. Did Spencer cover his hunt? Yes,

1387
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 5: Lance could and rewind about an hour and you'll hear

1388
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 5: all about it. We had one just kind of related

1389
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 5: to buck fever, and I am oh, here he goes

1390
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 5: is from William Any advice with target panic. I've never

1391
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 5: had a problem with white tailor hogs with my bow,

1392
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 5: but started hunting public land Emulei's in New Mexico and

1393
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 5: can't seem to calm myself after drawing on them.

1394
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as you're hunting a bigger, cooler animal,

1395
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: So I get it. Don't believe in target panic. At all,

1396
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: don't listen to those people, don't be around those people.

1397
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: If that causes a divorce or something like that, that

1398
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: that's better for you in the long run.

1399
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: You know, Kenyon has that. I'm sure a lot of

1400
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 3: guys do, but Kenyon has Mark. Kenyon has this little

1401
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: mantra he goes through, like a three step mantra, but

1402
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: you have to practice hard on it, like I've toyed

1403
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: with it. But he's got like a boom boom boom

1404
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: every time he shoots an arrow, boom boom boom, like

1405
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: a mental checklist. I think if you could actually get

1406
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: that to be wrote, I feel that that would be

1407
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: and I don't do it, sure, but when you explain

1408
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: it to me, I'm like, that seems like a good idea.

1409
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: Though I haven't tried it, but it feels like a

1410
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: great idea to me.

1411
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: I think a lot of guys as like beyond just

1412
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: the mental thing will switch their style of release. So

1413
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 2: if you whatever kind of style you're shooting right now,

1414
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: if you just cannot beat target panic, try a different one,

1415
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: and really that'll do it for you.

1416
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: If target panic were to exist. But it doesn't, so yeah,

1417
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: it is like it's it's like a cult of people

1418
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: who are like they feed off of each other. So

1419
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: get away from those people. Get in front of a

1420
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: big target and practice your your shot. And I do

1421
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: this with with my recurve or long bow. Now, if

1422
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time hitting the spot on the

1423
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: target that I want to hit, I'll walk up to

1424
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: ten yards and and practice shooting with my eyes closed,

1425
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: where all I'm doing is concentrating on the release of

1426
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: that arrow. And as long as my arrow isn't hitting

1427
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: in a totally funky way, I know that everything's good

1428
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: with the bow. And it's just me and it's just

1429
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: a practice thing. Don't get sucked down the rabbit hole.

1430
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: Don't don't believe it.

1431
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 3: Bill.

1432
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 5: Let's do a couple more cool It's from Spencer Flip

1433
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 5: for the people who are getting their their Christmas gifts

1434
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 5: early and responsibly. Any new holiday gift ideas on the

1435
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 5: Meat Eater website or first Light. You guys have any

1436
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 5: sort of like stocking stuffer Old trucks Man, Yeah, the

1437
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 5: new calendar.

1438
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: It's an easy, easy stocking stuffer for you.

1439
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: You got to roll it up. I mean there's put

1440
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 3: in the stock.

1441
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: There's so much good there's like fun stuff and there's

1442
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: very practical stuff. It's a great stop on the on

1443
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: the list.

1444
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: Everybody could use a first light based layer. Doesn't matter

1445
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: like what stock.

1446
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 3: But he didn't say stocking. Why are we talking about stockings?

1447
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: I'm not sorry, I got the stocking stuffer.

1448
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 5: Was me doing some editorialized it's nice thing about the calendar.

1449
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: I don't mean to oversell this here, but if you

1450
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 3: roll it up put it in the stocking, it's then

1451
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: gonna expand and actually firm up and make a nice

1452
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 3: firm cylinder that you then put all kinds of other

1453
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: stuff into.

1454
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of like a shell, like a mid layer

1455
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 5: for your stocking.

1456
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: Next week is no, We're two weeks away from Black Friday,

1457
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: Spencer flip, so hold out on your holiday shopping until then. Maybe.

1458
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

1459
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 5: We got Logan asking about he loves eating northern pike.

1460
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 5: He's asking for the best way to cook or pickle them.

1461
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 5: If you guys have any go tos.

1462
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: Pickling them, you're you're gonna get rid of all those

1463
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: nasty y bones in there.

1464
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 3: So that's it is the thing. If you get a

1465
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: pike now and then it is the thing to do

1466
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: with pike in my view, it's so good and just

1467
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: takes all the hassle. Yes, I also like to chunk, like,

1468
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 3: just flay it, leave the pin bones in, cube it

1469
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 3: up and food process it into a I mean, for

1470
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: lack of a better word, I guess you could call

1471
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: the moose. You could call the paste and then make

1472
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: fish cakes and you don't know the bones are there. Yeah.

1473
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Old Garrett Smith's dad he runs it through the

1474
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: grinder a couple of times until he has has a paste.

1475
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. You could pack it like a snowball. I'm like, yes,

1476
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: and you can just do fried fried balls. Put good

1477
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 3: stuff to eat in there, bread crumb, egg put all

1478
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: that good stuff to eat in their season. And then

1479
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: when you then make a little patty or a little ball,

1480
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: roll that and panco And if you do the panicle,

1481
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 3: then fry it very gently. It's got a crispy outside,

1482
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 3: a smooth soft middle. It's very very tasty.

1483
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: Pickling or fish cakes. You're not gonna have to worry

1484
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: about all those y bones. Let's do one more, Phil.

1485
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 5: Sure, we've had multiple questions about this. It's a hot,

1486
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 5: hot commodity. What's the hat that caw is wearing? Called

1487
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 5: again from kleb Col's.

1488
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: Hat stocking stuff first light stormy chromer.

1489
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: That's right. But then you're stocking.

1490
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great lid. Once the weather turns cold, it's

1491
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: not on all the timer. Tell you that, all right?

1492
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: You know it's funny. Can I tell you something real quick,

1493
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: my little my little boy, we're gonna name him something different,

1494
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: can you tell us? Yeah, we're gonna name him my

1495
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: wife's maiden name, Finch. So we before he was born,

1496
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: we ordered him up his stocking. Oh, but then we

1497
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 3: changed our minds.

1498
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 2: Wow, what a little easter egg.

1499
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: And so his stocking still doesn't have his name on it. Oh.

1500
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: I like that.

1501
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 3: Our dogs even got one with But it's got the

1502
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: right name of his stocking is not his name. It's

1503
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 3: so funny, dude, he's ten years old, same stocking.

1504
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: It's good. As soon as we stop recording here, I'm

1505
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: driving to you going deer hunting? No next week?

1506
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: Holy what are you going hunting for? Well?

1507
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: As soon as I tag out in Nebraska their season

1508
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: opens on Saturday, I am shooting up to South Dakota.

1509
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: I have a deer tag there as well.

1510
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: So is this a draw tag guy over here?

1511
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1512
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: Real rich for certain parts of the state I had

1513
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: to draw to get a mule deer tag.

1514
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, is that what you have?

1515
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: I have a mule deer tag. Cool, And in South

1516
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: Dakota I have an any deer tag, which I also

1517
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: had to draw. So I'm out of here for the

1518
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: next there's going to be swimming in buck fever.

1519
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well after killing that big Montana mule.

1520
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: Deer, I'm ready.

1521
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: I hope you don't get anything. Oh no, I'm kidding.

1522
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: All right, We'll see you guys back here next week,

1523
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: same time and place by now