WEBVTT - #487 Packers Unscripted: Finding focus

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>wes Hodkoits. We're coming to you here from our studios

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<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field and West. I want to start today's

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<v Speaker 1>show following up on Matt Lafleur's Monday press conferences usual

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<v Speaker 1>day after the game review of the proceedings. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was really kind of funny because he had notched his

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<v Speaker 1>tenth win, becoming the first Packers head coach in the

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<v Speaker 1>one year history of the Green Bay Packers to reach

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<v Speaker 1>double digit wins in his first season in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>But big surprise, he didn't do anything to celebrate it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a little frustrated with the way some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things had gone on Offen in the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>so afterward he went straight up to his desk on

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<v Speaker 1>the third floor in the atrium and put on the

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<v Speaker 1>game film and started grinding away trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to get this thing where he wants it to be,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole ten wins and all that. You know, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll relish it. However it shakes out in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season. But this guy is. This guy is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>laser focused on getting the Packers to a level that

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't seen yet. Yeah, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>when you break it all down and you see a

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<v Speaker 1>team that's ten and three but still has areas to improve,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the motivation right now for him in this Packers offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting because right now, as it stands, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are ten and three, and we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs scenarios. That's gonna be a topic moving forward here

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<v Speaker 1>until week seventeen. But unlike many other years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy always used to like to say, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to ten wins, you can start thinking playoffs. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a different type of year because of just how top

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<v Speaker 1>heavy and you know the NF he has been, and

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<v Speaker 1>how basically six teams have really separated themselves. Now with

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams getting that win from the rest of the pack,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have whatever is happening right now in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC East. I mean just it's like the Hare

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<v Speaker 1>and Hall of the NFL right now that you won't

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<v Speaker 1>understand that reference, but it's like, does anyone want to

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<v Speaker 1>win this thing? Yeah? For a second, there I was

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<v Speaker 1>that first half on Monday, and I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Eli Manning wants to come back and win this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. But that being said, the Packers have to

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<v Speaker 1>stay concentrated because there is scenarios here, Mike, where the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers could win eleven games and miss the playoffs depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how certain things you know, come together. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>are two lynchpin games to this whole thing. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and Vikings next week, and it's the forty Niners

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<v Speaker 1>and Rams, which I believe is also a Week sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of implications based off of both of those,

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<v Speaker 1>but for either one of those to have huge implications

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks sixteen, you have to get through the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bears. In the Rams and the Cowboys, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and Bears, I mean that that matchup right there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers win that game, in the Rams lose, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers do technically have a playoff spot clinched. If I

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<v Speaker 1>have that math correct, Yes, that is that is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>This week. A Packers win and a Rams loss guarantees

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers a playoff spot of one sort or another.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the spoiler alert. If that scenario plays out,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you next Monday, Matt Lafleur is not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about that. He's gonna want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the twelve win and winning the division. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>way he's driven, and then that's the way the scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>played out. The Packers have worked so hard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk about the ups and the downs of

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<v Speaker 1>this season, but they've put themselves in a position, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>on December ten to have ten victories. A team that

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<v Speaker 1>had been playing and clawing from behind for the better

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<v Speaker 1>part of three years. Well, now suddenly they're the ones

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<v Speaker 1>going around that final turn of the track with the

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<v Speaker 1>wind in their back and trying to finish this race strong.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's other teams that were gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good kick too, and are going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to usurp them there on that final you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hundred meters or what have you. That's why the motivation,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the attention to detail has to be there. Because,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about now a little bit, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>preview it more tomorrow, the Chicago Bears are for real.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they are still a good football team that

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<v Speaker 1>has a not so great record. They're making a charge,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're making a charge of the Packers have to

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<v Speaker 1>hold them off on Sunday. There's one way to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's to be focused on win number eleven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is to be focused on win number eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to give everyone the quick rundown as to

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<v Speaker 1>where things stand right now, as we just mentioned, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers can clinch a playoff spot this week if they win,

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<v Speaker 1>and if the Rams lose, that would guarantee the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>a spot in the postseason. As far as the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>North is concerned, right now, the magic number is twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Packers get to twelve wins, they win the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North, which means they need to win two of

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<v Speaker 1>their last three games to win the division, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter which too. They can beat the Bears and

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions and lose to the Vikings and their division champs,

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<v Speaker 1>or they can win one of the other ones and

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Vikings and their division champs. Twelve wins is

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<v Speaker 1>the magic number there, and obviously the Packers are still

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<v Speaker 1>keeping their eye on what's going on with the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints in terms of two of the division champions

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC are going to get first round bys

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<v Speaker 1>and so all of that is still in play as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And to point this out as well, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite run the table. Maybe it's run the coffee

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<v Speaker 1>table or run the nightstand. But I mean the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>could very well win these last three and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get a first round by Yes, they are in. They

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<v Speaker 1>are in control of that. If the Packers get to

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen wins, they will have a first round by either

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<v Speaker 1>the one or the two seed, depending on what else happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously getting getting to thirteen wins is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>task when your last three opponents are all of your

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<v Speaker 1>division opponents, and two of those after this week are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the road. Yeah. Absolutely. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I really did enjoy, though, beyond what Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur said just about that reaching that milestone, was how

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<v Speaker 1>he broke down this game. And I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that he's been really good with the media

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<v Speaker 1>with this year that he probably doesn't get enough credit

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<v Speaker 1>for those Monday breakdowns. A lot of times after the

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<v Speaker 1>games he says, you know, we have to look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to review it. But once he reviews it,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been pretty transparent in what he sees, and he

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<v Speaker 1>did it again on Monday. We're looking at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the plays that they were just an eyelash here too

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<v Speaker 1>away from breaking a big one. And it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why he still thinks this offense, he likes

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<v Speaker 1>where it's at. He thinks the potential is there for

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<v Speaker 1>them to be really good down the stretch. They just

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<v Speaker 1>have to clean some stuff up. In this game, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of pretty much amounted to the past. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it did. It did amount to the passing game. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't argue with a hundred and seventy four rushing yards,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a season high for the Packers ind and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four of those from Aaron Jones. But Matt Lafleur,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what I thought was kind of interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>is he started that press conference on Monday, he rattled

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<v Speaker 1>off like five or six plays showing how top of

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<v Speaker 1>mind they were. They're still on his mind as to

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<v Speaker 1>how close the Packers were in the passing game to

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<v Speaker 1>breaking this open. He mentioned the play action throwback to

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Graham a few times. There was a post play

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<v Speaker 1>over the middle where Alan Lazard was open and Packers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't connect. There was a potential touchdown past to j

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<v Speaker 1>Sternberger Um the rookie tight end didn't quite connect. There.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a screen pass to Jamal Williams where one

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<v Speaker 1>block was missed and that could have broken for a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. There was a third down past Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>down the sideline that didn't quite connect. Jones actually released

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<v Speaker 1>to the inside, which was unexpected, but it's because the

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback slipped and Rogers, because he was lofting a deep ball,

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<v Speaker 1>he still through it as though it was an outside release,

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<v Speaker 1>and so then Jones couldn't catch up with it. So

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<v Speaker 1>just all these things with the little circumstances. Something's off

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<v Speaker 1>here there. The timing is a little bit off, so

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<v Speaker 1>things weren't connecting. This was the message I got form

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<v Speaker 1>though Matt Lafleur wasn't standing at the podium saying saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really close, everything's gonna be all right. He's like no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying we're really close and we have to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>That that was That was his message. He is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be pushing these guys. And he talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>details of the place, and that comes down to things

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<v Speaker 1>like the leases and the timing and and a block

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<v Speaker 1>here there the details of the place. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be pushing these guys to really lock down on those details,

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<v Speaker 1>because for the Packers to get to where they want

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<v Speaker 1>to go the rest of this season and hopefully into January,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's going to take. It's going it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the execution of all of the finer points

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<v Speaker 1>so that you're not standing there on a Monday and

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<v Speaker 1>and saying like, oh, yeah, we're just three or four

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<v Speaker 1>plays away that we needed to connect. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that's not going to cut it in January. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the big line I think it was Linda

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<v Speaker 1>and Fonte who once said, you know, we're five plays

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<v Speaker 1>away from being twelve and four when they were seven

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<v Speaker 1>and nine or something like that. I mean, it happens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those those are the kind of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's also hindsight. And if you flip a coin, however

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<v Speaker 1>many times it's gonna vary depending on what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen in that given scenario. I mean, it's just you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have all the stars line every time. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you correct what's correctable and then

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<v Speaker 1>live with the mistakes because it is a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>human game. There our mistakes. There's just the fundamental issues

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<v Speaker 1>that I think the Packers want to hone up here,

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<v Speaker 1>and you saw and it's not just with the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all three phases. I thought the special teams, as

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about yesterday, took a big step forward and

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<v Speaker 1>in the Fleur was very effusive in his praise for

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<v Speaker 1>their blocking on their punt returns and how they cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff up there. Tyler Irvin staks north and south

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, catching a clean ball the defense and

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, being able to can dictate the temple

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Yeah, there were a couple of breaks

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<v Speaker 1>there in the middle of the field that they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to, you know, eliminate. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, the Packers won this game because of how

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<v Speaker 1>the defense responded offensively. The step forward that we saw

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<v Speaker 1>was with the run game, the re emergence of Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones and in seeing exactly how dynamic he can be,

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<v Speaker 1>because the one thing we hadn't really seen Mike to

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<v Speaker 1>this point was him break that big game is largest

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<v Speaker 1>Kerry before Yester or before Sunday was twenty yards. He

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<v Speaker 1>brought up forty two yards and a credit on that

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<v Speaker 1>a three tight end package. It was the receiver Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Kumro that was busting him free there on the left

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<v Speaker 1>side of the line. So I got the big block

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<v Speaker 1>on the safety. Yeah. So there are uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>positives that you draw from and things that it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you can hang your hat on. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what we could be down the line. But you also

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<v Speaker 1>need to have the passing element honed up. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. You've seen Davante Adams, You've seen Alan Lazard,

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen these receivers have big games. Can you do

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<v Speaker 1>it more consistently now? Because these next two games, Mike I,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, I mean New York in Washington, those

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<v Speaker 1>were the two where it's like, okay, you get the winds,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel good about yourself. Chicago and Minnesota are two

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<v Speaker 1>of the tougher defenses the Packers are gonna play all season,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if a Cheam Hicks comes back this week, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what all signs are pointing towards. The front is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be short up. Yes, they don't have Roal

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<v Speaker 1>Kwan Smith, but they have a good scheme and Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Pagano has been really intelligent with how he's used that personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Minnesota, you always know what you're getting with

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Zimmers. So this is where they got to rise up,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you take care of business against Chicago and Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>then people expect you to be able to go in

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit and win that one in the season finale, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if Matthew Stafford doesn't come back. Can you rise to

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<v Speaker 1>that occasion? This is what this week is about. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the first part of that test. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know we'll talk about it more tomorrow with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears, but I made this comment in Monday's Insider Inbox,

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<v Speaker 1>writing late Sunday night after the rest of our postgame

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<v Speaker 1>coverage was was up on the website. The Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>are playing for their season. I mean, there's uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just there's no two ways about it. They they they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to come into lambeau Field and absolutely lay

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<v Speaker 1>it all on the line, because, um, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and as we talked about yesterday, the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>could run it here and get to ten and six

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<v Speaker 1>and it still might not be enough to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason, but they know they cannot afford a seventh loss.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if if the Packers beat the Bears on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the Bears are necessarily fully mathematically eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>That might depend on some other things, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>eliminated with regard to the Packers. I mean, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>will essentially have eliminated them. That that Chicago cannot catch

0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay in any way, shape or form. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a Bears team that, yes, there were

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<v Speaker 1>some there were some low moments. They've they've underachieved to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain extent, but they were twelve and four. They

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<v Speaker 1>were twelve and four last year for a reason. They

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<v Speaker 1>were a field goal away from getting to the Divisional

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<v Speaker 1>round of the playoffs. And they're starting to play like

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<v Speaker 1>that Chicago Bears team again. A couple of things. You're one,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, they'll still even if they lose to the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers on Sunday, they still could have that potential playoff

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<v Speaker 1>door open. But they need Minnesota to lose out, They

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<v Speaker 1>need the Rams to lose out, and and certainly that

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<v Speaker 1>would include them beating the Vikings in their regular season finale.

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<v Speaker 1>But the part that you raised, I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>good point because it's something I talked with Mercedes Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>about last week. That's a guy that's been around now

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<v Speaker 1>for thirteen fourteen years in the NFL, and he mentions

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<v Speaker 1>how the parody of the league in the margin for

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<v Speaker 1>error is so small with how much parody that there is,

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<v Speaker 1>and in there really isn't that much that separates a

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<v Speaker 1>team like the Bears from being a legitimate playoff contender.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at it, Mike. I mean, they beat

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<v Speaker 1>the team that could very well end up winning the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC East still in Dallas last week, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a convincing victory that But you played by the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rules are as the divisions get a win.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, whoever wins the division gets a buy or

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a seating and gets a home game, and

0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.920
<v Speaker 1>two of them get buys. But you know, for for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers here, I think the important thing is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be at ten and three to show that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we present, this is what we offer, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is who we are. We've been more consistent than

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears have been this season, and it's put us

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<v Speaker 1>in a position now to potentially control our own destiny

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<v Speaker 1>going into the playoffs. But to the original point, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears are dangerous because there is nothing to lose in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, and unlike there's nothing to lose, but yet

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<v Speaker 1>everything to lose at the same time. And that's right

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<v Speaker 1>because unlike New York and Washington, who at least you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what they do with their coaching staffs, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that personnel is built beyond this year. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>looking at us here. The Bears were looking at this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They were staring this season in the eye, and they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be able to make a run and they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to show that they could be a team that

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<v Speaker 1>goes from the division champion to a conference champion to

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<v Speaker 1>a Super Bowl contender. They weren't able to do that

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<v Speaker 1>to this point. So, yeah, you have a GM, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a head coach, you have personnel there that they

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<v Speaker 1>were very forward thinking with that. They put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of eggs in this basket that's right in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's that that's what makes the Bears dangerous. And

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it so that La Fleur and his coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff and once these players come back into the building

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, they have to be up on it because

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<v Speaker 1>in order for this to be relevant, in order for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers to consider themselves to be legitimate playoff contenders.

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<v Speaker 1>They needed to get through these three weeks. They've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>through two of them. You need to beat the Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you need to be able to do the

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<v Speaker 1>what they haven't been able to do, which is when

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<v Speaker 1>in the US, which is to win in Minneapolis. And

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<v Speaker 1>that will be a certainly coming up soon enough. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to the Bears, we know that they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of a mini by having played on the previous

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<v Speaker 1>two Thursdays. As a matter of fact, um and but

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to get to some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>results from this past Sunday in the NFL, because, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that game in New Orleans West San Francisco, forty Niners

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<v Speaker 1>against the Saints, back and forth, back and forth. It

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<v Speaker 1>was um, it was like watching the you know, watching

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<v Speaker 1>the score on like a pinball machine or something. The

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<v Speaker 1>way the way the numbers just kept rising and rising.

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<v Speaker 1>And it comes down to the Saints coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>nine points down in the fourth quarter. They take the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>The forty Niners get the ball last and a big

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down conversion to George Kittle coupled with a face

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<v Speaker 1>mask penalty that takes what would have been a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy field goal into more of chip shot range for

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<v Speaker 1>Robbie Gold and the San Francisco fourty Entners reclaim the

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<v Speaker 1>number one spot in the NFC with a forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>to forty six shootout victory. San Francisco eleven and two.

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans is ten and three. How freaking good is

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees, though forty years old, to put three in

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<v Speaker 1>passing yards? I believe that was a season high against

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Salis past defense against that, against that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>those are those are two teams that have played some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good defense for the bulk of the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just an example of how you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>never know in this league how games are going to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who would have thought, yes, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>forty enters have a really good offense. Drew Brees is

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame quarterback. The Saints have been really

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<v Speaker 1>good on offense for a number of years. But nobody

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<v Speaker 1>thought with those two defenses going head to head in

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<v Speaker 1>December that there'd be ninety four points on the board

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<v Speaker 1>in regulation. Mind, you didn't even didn't even go to overtime. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain fore Ride beat writer sitting near left

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<v Speaker 1>right now that decided not to start Drew Brees in

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<v Speaker 1>a fantasy league, went with Russell Wilson instead, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking forward to playing in the consolation bracket

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<v Speaker 1>this week in the Green Bay Ballers, but have fun

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But no turning the focus back. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things we learned here. One, Kyle Shanahan can coach

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<v Speaker 1>man because it's not even about the schemes. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Saints came back um and they

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<v Speaker 1>put those points on the board. There's fifty some seconds left,

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<v Speaker 1>forty some seconds left, and for Shanahan to rally the

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<v Speaker 1>troops and for Jimmy Garoppolo to manage that situation. This

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<v Speaker 1>was another one of those games like we saw last month,

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<v Speaker 1>where the running game did get going, but it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>dictate the temple like it has in the past. For

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<v Speaker 1>the forty, Jimmy Garoppolo needed to win that game. And

0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.040
<v Speaker 1>George Kittle, who did diddally squat in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>believe even he had a fumble at one point, he

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<v Speaker 1>comes back in is their big playmaker down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you anticipate from those players. And credit to

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<v Speaker 1>the forty Niners to be able to come back and

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<v Speaker 1>pull that out because the storyline until Week seventeen, now

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<v Speaker 1>unless the forty Niners actually claimed this number one seed,

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that they ended up losing to Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>in a game in which they could have tied and

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<v Speaker 1>really controlled their destiny down the stretch. They needed this win,

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to claw their way back because there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a really good team from the NFC West that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a five seed and that's just the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>And want to make sure it's not them. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I give the I give the forty Niners. I give

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<v Speaker 1>the forty Niners a heck of a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody talked about, you know, this gauntlet that they

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<v Speaker 1>were facing, where they were going to where they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to face Green Bay and then the Baltimore Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>and then the New Orleans Saints back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did they do. They ended up winning two

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<v Speaker 1>out of those three, and the one that they lost

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<v Speaker 1>was on essentially on a walk off field goal the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that they beat that they beat the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans. And I'm telling you, West, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized, I'm I'm biased in this sense because in

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<v Speaker 1>my years covering the Packers, I've only been to the

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Superdome twice, and the Packers pretty much got

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<v Speaker 1>it handed to them both times, and I left both

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<v Speaker 1>of those games with an absolute ear splitting headache from

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<v Speaker 1>all of the noise. I think that Superdome is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the toughest places in the NFL to play. I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly would not like the Packers to have to go

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<v Speaker 1>there in January if it comes down to that, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bring a whole bottle. But for the Fortys

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<v Speaker 1>to go in there in December, in that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a matchup and to perform the way they did and

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<v Speaker 1>to pull and to pull out of victory. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know if you and I were sitting here at

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<v Speaker 1>Packers fans, if the Packers were involved in a game

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Packers fans would be going crazy, saying the

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<v Speaker 1>defense isn't ready for the playoffs, you know, all this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Nobody's saying that with New Orleans and

0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco because their their defenses. Their defenses have done

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<v Speaker 1>a really good job throughout the bulk of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was just one of those games that just

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<v Speaker 1>took on a certain path, and that's how this lead

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<v Speaker 1>can go exactly, and so much it is based on

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<v Speaker 1>who you're playing too. I mean, with all due respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington, there's a reason why the Packers defense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two or sixty two yards compared to you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>of these other weeks where they've had four hundred. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you expect to give up the yards when you face

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the New Orleans Saints, especially in their own place. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way that you know, the business goes. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that is surprising to me. That's gonna be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the interesting storylines to follow, getting back to the

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 1>super Dome. The Saints have been beatable at home this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They have that is something that has not really been

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<v Speaker 1>a thing in the past with them. I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. So seeing how they perform here into January

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be really instrituing to watch. They're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>one home game for sure, and we'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with obviously that number two seed. But right now as

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<v Speaker 1>it stands, I think it's been three times they've been

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<v Speaker 1>beating at home, now Atlanta, right in now San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when there was one more was there not?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, yeah, I thought they got I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. You keep talking and sounding smart, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look, well, that's okay. The the other one, the

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<v Speaker 1>other one that there was only two, I'm sorry. Only

0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:45.199
<v Speaker 1>they've lost at the Rams. Yeah. Well and obviously they

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<v Speaker 1>granted it was the bad call and everything, but they

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>did lose the NFC Championship at home last year to

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Rams. Um. The other one, though, that

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>is worth talking about two is the Rams because they

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:04.119
<v Speaker 1>hosted Sunday and Football against the Seattle Seahawks. And as

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<v Speaker 1>much as we've been talking about the Bears and how

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they're starting to look a lot more like ten Bears,

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the Rams are starting to look a lot more like

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<v Speaker 1>the ten Rams that won the NFC and went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. They are still on the fringe here,

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to stay in the race, but they handled a

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 1>contender in pretty impressive fashion, knocking Seattle down a peg.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Rams are still right in the mix here

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<v Speaker 1>people want to talk about with the Packers and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the areas that they're struggling with. Seattle is a

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<v Speaker 1>real legitimate contender in the NFC, and they are not

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<v Speaker 1>averse to having just completely laying it a game. They've

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<v Speaker 1>they've done it several times this season. They can play

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody, but there's also moments where it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like that offense can't even get going. Yeah, and they

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and they've and they've had they've had games where their

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<v Speaker 1>defense has let them down as well. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>home game earlier this year West where they had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to overtime to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce arians is doing some good things in Tampa and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to turn things around there, but that game ended up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something like, you know, forty whatever to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>whatever in overtime. And that's not the type of defense

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you would expect to see Seattle playing at home. So

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<v Speaker 1>they have their flaws and their vulnerabilities as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they've been they've had their struggles in

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<v Speaker 1>certain games this year. And they're sitting there at ten

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<v Speaker 1>and three in the same position as the Packers, And

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<v Speaker 1>now you have the Rams who are trying to play

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<v Speaker 1>catch up on everyone. I mean, that's why if the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers can take care of business this week against the Bears,

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and again, that's a big if you can't look ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But there there's so many implications with that potential Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>game because it's not just about you know, where the

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Packers are. The Vikings need to stay in this thing

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>for the wild card to based on, you know, the

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Rams still being in the hunt absolutely the one thing,

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and Sean McVeigh discussed it recently. They're getting back to

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley. Now, this wasn't the game that's going to

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>go on Todd Gurley's highlight reel, but I think l

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<v Speaker 1>A is starting to realize after getting away from it

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<v Speaker 1>late last season, that Girle is one of your top

0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>playmakers unless there's a legitimate thought that, Okay, something's wrong

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>with his knee and you just got to be careful.

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>You gotta feed him. And even if it is a

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<v Speaker 1>game like this for the only averages three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half yards to carry, that's the identity though, right, Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that the reason why the Rams originally became the contenders

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.959
<v Speaker 1>that they were, because they got Girly going and they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to kind of pull him out of those dull,

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>those dull drums that sort of were during that last

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher season. This game, what did he have seven touches.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the more he touches the ball, the more

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>this offenses and sync. And I think you're seeing that

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that is really getting back to Jared Goff. I think

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>he's really talented quarterback. I don't know if he's at

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the juncture in his career where he can just put

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands and let him let him

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<v Speaker 1>run the show. Well, I think it's a complimentary run game. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're seeing a lot with the Rams offense

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<v Speaker 1>right now, much like we're seeing with the Packers offense

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of stages where when you can get

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<v Speaker 1>some things going on the ground and then you are

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>working play action off of that, you were you work

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>play action and suddenly guys are running free in the

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 1>secondary and your quarterbacks got these big throwing lanes and bang,

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you're hitting plays. If you're not getting the running game

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>going and you're just trying to play a straight drop

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>back game or just line up in the shotgun all

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the time and and have the quarterback survey the field,

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.199
<v Speaker 1>defenses are coming up with a lot more answers for

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<v Speaker 1>that when when they don't have to honor the play

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>action and things aren't working off of that. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Sean McVeigh and Matt Lafleur offenses I think are very

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>similar in that respect. And what I saw on Sunday

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>getting back to the Packers is it just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>every time and obviously they had the running game going

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<v Speaker 1>with Aaron Jones, and it felt like every time Aaron

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers ran a play action there was somebody open. Now,

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>they didn't connect on all of them, because as we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about at the beginning, there were some plays that

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<v Speaker 1>just missed and everything. But other than one time I

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>remember Washington on one side of the field, they completely

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>stayed home on the play action and it wasn't there

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>and Rogers had to throw it away or something like

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that or take a check down. Other than that one play,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like every time Rogers ran play action there

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<v Speaker 1>was somebody open. The play the play design was exact

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>what you were looking for. And uh, that's something I

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>think that the Packers can really make the foundation of

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>things moving forward. They weren't able to carry it through

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>for the last three quarters, but that first quarter what

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>they were able to do getting Rogers open in space

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>with some rollouts rolling both sides of the field, and

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<v Speaker 1>that people always want to talk about identities, and I

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of laugh at that I mentioned an inbox winning

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>is an identity. But that is something I think when

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you look at this team down the stretch, that it

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>can really do well when Rogers is outside the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>With the way that those guys can block in the

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>threat that those running backs present now as pass catchers

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to what they do as running backs, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting to watch. I think that is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a foundational point of this offense that they can build on. Yeah,

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where I think that's that's if there

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<v Speaker 1>is something this offense is going to hang its hat

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<v Speaker 1>on moving forward, I think that's where it has to be. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but for now, we do need to sign off on

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