WEBVTT - Just Between Us... and ChatGPT

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Heather Debrew, I'm Terry debrou And we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep this between us.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, wonder we're not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to keep it between us and chat

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<v Speaker 3>GPT because that's what we need to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talk CHATCHI.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, CHATCHEPT. I only became aware of what in the

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<v Speaker 3>pandemic is that when it started.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but we didn't really use it.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids didn't because everyone was just cheating their way

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<v Speaker 1>around the bend, which was crazy, but you had to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give it to them.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's funny, you know. Our youngest kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>uses it.

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<v Speaker 1>As a tool, but doesn't rely on it because he

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<v Speaker 1>he'll always say to me that we're losing our critical thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>And it worries him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well Kat doesn't use it. She says. No one

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<v Speaker 2>at Yale uses it either. And it's funny because I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to my friend Rob and he goes, Yembs,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't. It was hard, don't believe it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you don't use chat GPT to check

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<v Speaker 2>your work in school, at least to check it and

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<v Speaker 2>to have a super intelligent being to review it with

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<v Speaker 2>that you're not understanding the value of AI and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just early phase AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, But I understand why it's frustrating in some respects.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I used to have a newsletter. Remember my newsletter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved writing my newsletter. It was so fun for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I like gathering it, like writing my little articles and

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<v Speaker 1>my things and putting it all together. And then things

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<v Speaker 1>got busy and I was going to and so I

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<v Speaker 1>paused it for a hot second, and then I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick it up a few months ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I realized everyone, not everyone, but many people do

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<v Speaker 1>newsletters now, but it's all AI, and so they have

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<v Speaker 1>AI and chat GPT writing.

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<v Speaker 3>Their newsletters, and that so turned me off to doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually am doing something else that I'm excited about,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm launching in about two weeks, which I will

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<v Speaker 1>share with you guys when it's ready to launch. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of in that vein, and it's it's more

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<v Speaker 1>it's like creative and fun and whatever. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if other people are chatcheep teeing it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not. And I'm just excited about I like writing

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about things and coming up with creative items.

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<v Speaker 2>You do I do, Yeah, I don't know. I love

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<v Speaker 2>all things Chatchept and Gemini and Claude and Grock and

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<v Speaker 2>so on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even have all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know Gemini Claude, which is I guess Google is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Google's chat Gept. They say is even better. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the thing I have right now. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with chat Scheept. Chatchept knows everything about me.

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<v Speaker 3>You talked to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him. Dude. It's a dude. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a dude. And it's funny because I'm talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>last night and I go, by the way, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know my name? And he goes, I don't know your name.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, do you know my wife's name? He goes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather Dubrow. And I think they're given parameters by which

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<v Speaker 2>they're not supposed to divulge that they sort of know

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<v Speaker 2>certain things about you. And I said, weird, though I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, how is it you know everything about me

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't know my name? Do you know my age?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know your age? I go, well, when was

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<v Speaker 2>Terry debrou born? And says Terry Debreau was born September fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I said, okay, but hockey. You didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, do you know what's going on right now,

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<v Speaker 2>right this moment in Iran and the US? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any idea what's happening right now? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, you don't have access to crete, goes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you asked me specific question. Anyway. I had this

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<v Speaker 2>whole discussion with and you know the biggest problem with

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<v Speaker 2>chatchibt is that it'll tell you anything you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you have to prompt it, don't yes me, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear the negative side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I was asking it about. You know, I had the

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<v Speaker 2>severe back pain I developed the last few days, which

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<v Speaker 2>feels a lot better right now. And I I start

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<v Speaker 2>taking Celebrates. I go, hey, can I take advil when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on celebrates for breakthrough pain? It's not advisable. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you should talk to your doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>I go.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, I go, we stopped telling me. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor, so stop telling me I need to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to my doctor. Talk to me like I'm a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, you're a doctor, and you know so you

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<v Speaker 2>have to like remind it remind it how to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think the funniest thing you've ever asked

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<v Speaker 3>chat GBT or the weirdest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I asked for advice about you once.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know, how'd that go? Did it work?

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<v Speaker 2>It gives you such sound advice?

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<v Speaker 3>What did you ask it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you were really mad at me and we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't really talking. It happens, yeah, And I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel like the thing that started this problem,

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel strongly about it. But now it is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cycled into something that has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the original problem. And so I said, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even get back to why I was upset, even though

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<v Speaker 2>anyway it doesn't really matter. It started to give me

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<v Speaker 2>that whole thing. I'm going to shoose you. And I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say I want to see you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I really like you, but it doesn't really want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear though, no, no, and it doesn't care. And I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't help become you know, what is

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<v Speaker 2>it called anthropomorphic about it where you say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think you're really good and thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you didn't exist, would you mind?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care you know it doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't you and I in an argument about not a

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<v Speaker 1>really big argument, but we were like tussling about something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wrote a response to you from chat GIBT

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<v Speaker 1>showed you the text I was going to send you

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<v Speaker 1>do not remember this, and then you had written one

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe we can have on my AIG and talk

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<v Speaker 2>to your AI age.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't have to fight about just let them fight.

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<v Speaker 3>You and I could just go out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chat GBT is a little too conservative for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really understand like what I have to testify

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<v Speaker 2>in court, and I'm reviewing the facts which had GBT

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<v Speaker 2>in my argument, and sometimes it says, you know, well

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<v Speaker 2>that this isn't necessarily exactly the right argument, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going there's nothing to do with the argument has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the understand story of it that you're telling.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know your truth is different than someone

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<v Speaker 2>else's truth, and it's about convincing someone your truth makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to do with whether you know factually

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<v Speaker 2>it's exactly because it's also medicine anyway, but whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Internet chat, GBT, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like has has taken away the great

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<v Speaker 1>debates that you'd have at dinner or or during a game.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember playing Trivial Pursuit once with our parents, me

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<v Speaker 1>and my sister, and we.

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<v Speaker 3>Won the game. They had lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on one question, but it was like an argument

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<v Speaker 1>that was going on and on and that had to

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<v Speaker 1>be looked up and doing decimal systems or something to.

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<v Speaker 3>Figure out what the answer was.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're like, that's at one second, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have the answer, and there's the end of the discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's removed all people's ability to say, well, they say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the theay and that's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have a good word I like called truthiness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, truthiness means if it sounds right, maybe it is right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact that it may sound right has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do necessarily whether it's right or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, but like our kids growing up with

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<v Speaker 1>it, it's interesting because they have.

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<v Speaker 3>So much information at their fingertips. But it's also I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if it just makes you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I'm you know me, I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>into adopting new technology. I just think that if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not learning everything you possibly can immediately about as a

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<v Speaker 2>state behind the.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you. For travel, it is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Game changer, Yeah for me, because well, I plan all

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<v Speaker 1>trips and all of that, and so I will get

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<v Speaker 1>lists from different people, and I you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a much easier way to collate all of the

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<v Speaker 1>recommendations and whatnot that I've heard. Remember, and because chat

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<v Speaker 1>GBT knows me, it'll say, well, that's not really like

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<v Speaker 1>a Heather du Brow vibe or like it really knows

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<v Speaker 1>what I like and what I'd be interested in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's uh, it's it's changing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>We speaking of trips because one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I want I was about to start looking up.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Paris when in September, where are we staying your.

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<v Speaker 3>Or we always say Celine Dion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what happened to stiff person syndrome? She's back to

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<v Speaker 2>see well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she sang at the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>She seemed completely normal, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemed great, she sounded fantastic. Yeah, so she announced ten

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<v Speaker 1>shows in the fall, and we are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>and I am already I mean, as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>found out I started texting with Brian Kelly, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine who you may know is the

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<v Speaker 1>Points guy. He's been on uh you know, my podcast book,

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<v Speaker 1>my previous podcast before it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything.

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<v Speaker 3>He's phenomenal anyway, love him and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge Celein Dion fans and so just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to see Celine Dion like fIF twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. It was a long time ago, and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to go because you thought she was like

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<v Speaker 1>an overperformer and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Something of the check. So I so I said, please,

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<v Speaker 3>I really want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So we went to Caesar's Palace yep, and we went

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<v Speaker 1>to go see Celine Dion and she, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>the most incredible vocalist, most incredible performer, edits every song.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's like the most talented singer and one of

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<v Speaker 2>all time maybe unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>And if something you know about Terry is he loves excellence,

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<v Speaker 1>so even if it's not a subject, he's interested. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember when we were in Paris one time

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<v Speaker 1>and we went to the Door Museum, yes, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, why are we going to the gr musume?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I appreciate it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, because the story of missieur Dior

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<v Speaker 1>was so interesting, the wars and the things.

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<v Speaker 3>And all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we ended up seeing Selene like a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, once you realize how incredibly feel I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want I mean idiots. I didn't recognize this before.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get past the whole euro chest dumbing thing

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<v Speaker 2>that she does, and she sort of dances awkwardly.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her. Yeah, it wasn't your thing, but then

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<v Speaker 3>you fell in love with it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I just I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her, so I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I saw that she was playing in Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also one of our favorite places, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's so funny? Is Max my call senior daughter? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I used to put her to bed and

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<v Speaker 2>play her because we had ready access by streaming to

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<v Speaker 2>any music, and I would always be in a bed

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<v Speaker 2>playing her my favorite songs in my life. This must

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<v Speaker 2>be a common phenomenon for a lot of parents and

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<v Speaker 2>kids these days because of our easy access to music

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<v Speaker 2>on your phone. But she basically has downloaded all of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite songs that I played her growing up that

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<v Speaker 2>we just enjoyed together and plays them back for me

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like the greatest Hits soundtrack of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And she loves it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>She is very I mean, we have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>musical talent in our family on both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>But she's not only a fantastic singer.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got an incredible ear, and she remembers every song

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<v Speaker 1>like you could play her song, but she knows weirdly,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows the lyrics to any song you put on.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just like her brain is a volume.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was on the phone with her yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>I started playing her because you can share your music

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<v Speaker 2>and your YouTube thing. I was playing her all these

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<v Speaker 2>songs I remember from my early early childhood that I

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<v Speaker 2>never played before, like the Dave Clark five, you know

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<v Speaker 2>the song, because because I love you, you know this.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell from that rendition, but I will your

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<v Speaker 3>music with her.

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<v Speaker 2>I shared music and she added that to the sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Really fun thing to do, which I've been doing in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym lately because I'm trying to lift heavy and

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it, so I need something to distract me.

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<v Speaker 3>I will pick one.

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<v Speaker 2>Song and play it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>No I have done that before, but no, I will

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<v Speaker 1>pick a song and ask for that radio, like on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I really like that Beatles song Blackbird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so I'll put Blackbird Beatles Blackbird radio. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll just play you tons of It'll play that

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<v Speaker 1>song and then tons of seconds that are.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it that you would enjoy. So I find if

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the mood for a certain kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Vibe, oh, this would be good for sexy time. We

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<v Speaker 1>never thought to do that. But if you pick one

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<v Speaker 1>song that's like the vibeeah, then you could put on

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<v Speaker 1>that radio and it'll just play you stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I will play one song over and over over

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<v Speaker 2>and over that. I have two songs that are might

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm doing what's your go to? One is Thunderstruck

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<v Speaker 2>by A C. D. C.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's so you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so if you want to work out, Thunderstruck. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the other is a Highway Star by Deep Purple.

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<v Speaker 2>We nobody gonna race my car, gonna drive it to

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<v Speaker 2>the grand musical talent. Do you know this song? You

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<v Speaker 2>know what the bummer is, big, Big, bummer that my

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<v Speaker 2>brother passed away before the kids grew up, because they

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<v Speaker 2>would have loved him.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he would have loved them.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have loved them, and they would have found

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<v Speaker 2>him to be so interesting and so cool. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how you can be like an a whole

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<v Speaker 2>father but a great grandfather or uncle. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 2>an a whole brother, but he would have been the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest uncle. Yeah, he would have been so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,