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Speaker 2: All right, Rory, welcome back to another episode of Rory

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Speaker 2: Maul Don't know Ball. Today we're gonna make a little

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Speaker 2: pivot though. I'm sure you're happy about this.

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Speaker 3: One, so excited.

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Speaker 2: You were an aspiring track star in your eye day.

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Speaker 4: First of all Division one track runner I didn't take

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Speaker 4: to college because he's fucking less.

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Speaker 3: I'm not knocking you. I'm not knocking.

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Speaker 2: I just think today we are in the presence of

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Speaker 2: track Royalty. I mean, four timeg medalist, eight time world champion,

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Speaker 2: one of the fastest men ever. Yes, I tried to

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Speaker 2: mimic his style when I was younger, when I used

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Speaker 2: to run from the cops, Rory, but they caught me.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't get a down packed.

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Speaker 2: Today we are joined by the legendary, the iconic mister

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Speaker 2: Michael Johnson.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing certain, Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Today, good man. Good to be with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Now, we really appreciate it and like listen with our

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Speaker 3: hold on stuff. Go ahead, Mike, what is the skincare routine?

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Speaker 3: You look amazing, man, Will What is the routine? What

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Speaker 3: is your diet? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man? It's lighting and filter man.

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Speaker 3: Respect the honesty.

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Speaker 5: I say, man, you know, just just good clean living man,

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Speaker 5: you know, good quality living man.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Do you still do you still work out every day?

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Speaker 2: Like is your is your regiment still? Like you still

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Speaker 2: get some type of workout in every day now that

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Speaker 2: you're not really competing anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I work out.

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Speaker 5: But like people get really confused when it comes to

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Speaker 5: track because track is such a fundamental sport, sport, you know,

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Speaker 5: fundamental to everything else because it's running.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the track is just like football, just like baseball.

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Speaker 5: Just like so, like you know what you did as

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Speaker 5: a baseball player, as a football player practicing, Now that

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Speaker 5: you're fifty seven years old, like I am, you're not

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Speaker 5: doing that thing anymore. You're doing just going into the

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Speaker 5: dem getting some weights, getting some cardio.

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Speaker 1: So I do do that most days of the week,

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Speaker 1: my three or four day for five days a week. Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it doesn't look anything anywhere close to what.

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Speaker 4: I was doing, even at thirty four. This was actually

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Speaker 4: a few years ago. I tried to do some hurdle

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Speaker 4: drills just to warm up, played myself immediately. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: My leg doesn't go up the same way.

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Speaker 3: I ran for it, just like you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well not just like you, but like he

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Speaker 2: ran the same event that you know, we.

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Speaker 4: Ran the same lap. First of all, with my skin

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Speaker 4: was pretty good. Forty eight eight was my my pr Okay,

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Speaker 4: where'd you go to college? Saint Peter's College was my

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Speaker 4: prime and then I got kicked out. But I would

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Speaker 4: you know, I think I would have made the Olympics

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Speaker 4: had I not punched the r in the face.

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Speaker 3: No, you definitely would have. Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 3: I can see that.

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Speaker 2: You definitely would have made that. That's what stopped you

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Speaker 3: I mean, Mike, I did.

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Speaker 4: I turned down Baylor to go to a commuter school

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Speaker 4: in Jersey City. Yeah, Baylor was Bill was definitely looking

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Speaker 4: at Taylor and wanted me. But I was like, you know, now,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go transform the four hundred shit over here.

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Speaker 1: If that, if that, if that was true, that would

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Speaker 5: See, they would also indicate, yeah, why you didn't make that.

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Speaker 4: Look at Yeah, they went with Jeremy Warner.

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Speaker 3: Awful decision, but they went with Jeremy Warner.

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Speaker 4: I got into track actually my junior year of high

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Speaker 4: When did you find out as a kid that you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, so those are tually different things. So

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Speaker 5: Knew I was fast. But yeah, there's a difference in

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Speaker 5: I can have a professional career. I didn't really realize

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Speaker 4: No, it's a lot of a lot of the that's

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Speaker 4: which is, I mean, the most iconic four hundred meters

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was interesting. My past was still

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Speaker 5: You know, young kids will be in the sport just

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Speaker 1: Tough for me. And I was a two hundred me.

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Speaker 4: You have like one of the most unique running styles,

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Speaker 4: the probably most iconic running style in track history. Did

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Speaker 4: they try to change that when you got to Baylor

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Speaker 4: because how fast you are shouldn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: My coach was the only one, Cloudehard at.

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Speaker 4: How did they go about doing those tests?

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Speaker 5: It's force plates that measure you measure the athlete running

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Speaker 1: Plate you see how much force going into the ground.

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Speaker 1: With force plates. So those are the such ways that

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Speaker 5: the design was completely different than anything anybody had ever

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Speaker 5: seen in the in.

442
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 1: The sport before. So we debuted it.

443
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Speaker 5: We teased it a bit at the trials with a

444
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 5: purple pair, same shoe purple, and everybody went crazy. And

445
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 5: what was hard, so to your point was like everybody

446
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,239
Speaker 5: sort of knew that well, then this is what you're

447
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 5: doing at the trials, you're probably doing something different at

448
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 5: the game.

449
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Speaker 1: Is it going to be different?

450
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 5: I did confound that it was going to be different,

451
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 5: and that just sent the media just scrambling trying to

452
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 5: find what is it going to be?

453
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: What is it?

454
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 5: What's somebody in the life. And so it was about

455
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,239
Speaker 5: a month later against I was a month later. So

456
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 5: for that month, I mean, it was underlight. I mean,

457
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 5: not a lot of people had seen the goal. It

458
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 5: was like only a handful of people. We kept it

459
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 5: really tight. Yeah, so nobody had seen the goal. We

460
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 5: actually did a I release the day before my first

461
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 5: race in Atlanta for the Olympics, where we were dealble

462
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: to go shoot. So by the next day just enough

463
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 5: people knew, you know, if we haven't seen it in

464
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 5: that press release, Yeah, people went crazy. And so then

465
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 5: the crazy thing after that was every time I had

466
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 5: eight races, four rounds of the four hundred and four

467
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 5: rounds of two hundred. Every time I went out. This

468
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 5: is back in the days a flash slash bowls that

469
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 5: was on the camera right with the camera phones, and

470
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 5: if you watch, like you know, if you watch the

471
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 5: video every race, you will see just like there's splashes

472
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Speaker 5: going off all the way around the track as I'm

473
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Speaker 5: running because people are just taking pictures the whole way around,

474
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Speaker 5: taking pictures. And you look at some of those pictures

475
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 5: that people take have taken, and they took pictures of

476
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Speaker 5: the shoot.

477
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

478
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Speaker 2: Just the shoe was it was? It was it tough though,

479
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: Like did you did you feel any added pressure because

480
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 2: obviously the sneaker is gold, so it's like you can't

481
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: get silver or bronze and have on gold sneakers, so

482
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: you're committed to this gold shoe. Nikes obviously put this

483
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: whole campaign, this whole thing together with this gold sneaker.

484
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: Did you feel any added pressure, like I have to

485
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: win because if not, I have these shoes on, these

486
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: gold shoes on, and I'm accepting a silver medal, it

487
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: just doesn't translate.

488
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I made the decision. They were shocked when

489
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 5: I made the decision. They said what color you wanted

490
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 5: to be? When I said I wanted to be gold,

491
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 5: they were shocked, like, you're sure, right, but that was

492
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 5: you know, so you know, for me, it was I

493
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 5: was confident, yeah, that I was gonna that I was

494
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 5: gonna win goal, everything that I was everything for that

495
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 5: entire year leading up to that Olympics. That whole season

496
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 5: it was all about winning gold and both the two

497
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 5: hundred and four hundred anything sure that that was going

498
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 5: to be a failure, and for me it was more

499
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 5: and I saw it as an amazing opportunity to do

500
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 5: something special at this Olympics in Atlanta, at a home Olympics,

501
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 5: you know, being in the US, and so I was

502
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 5: just more focused on that and not focused. I mean,

503
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 5: there's there's some situations where you have to be more

504
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 5: focused on the opportunity. So you're taking a more offensive

505
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: mindset versus trying to defend against the possible backlash or

506
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 5: the positive negativetivity or the possible failure because because then

507
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 5: if that's your mindset, then you're not going to be

508
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 5: in position to take advantage of the opportunity. So the

509
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 5: opportunity for me was, Okay, if I go out here,

510
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 5: I already believe that I'm going to make history. I'm

511
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 5: gonna win both of these races. I'm gonna win to

512
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: go now, and I'm going to do it at home.

513
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 5: If I do it with some amazing style, ass wows

514
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 5: everybody that's a huge opportunity.

515
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: I will I will that will, you know, sort of

516
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: burnish my legacy forever.

517
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 5: People will forever remember that moment, right, and this will

518
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 5: allow me to transcend the sport, which is what I'm

519
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 5: trying to do right now, help these athletes transcend the sport.

520
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 5: It was really difficult back then because again, as you said,

521
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 5: you know track, it's only every four years after forty

522
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 5: years in between, nobody really pays attention and that in

523
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 5: the case ever since.

524
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: So this is my opportunity.

525
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 5: If I was focused more on, hey, I don't want

526
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 5: to draw too much attention to myself because I might

527
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 5: not win, then I missed that opportunity. If I You're right,

528
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 5: you know, it would have been you know, backlash. People

529
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: would never been jokes, you know, everywhere it would have been.

530
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: There was no means back then, but that would have

531
00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 5: become a mean. Winning the Selver Metal up brons, you know,

532
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: everybody would have talked about that.

533
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: But if you focused on that, then you missed the opportunity.

534
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean, of course you had gold on your mind

535
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: with those races.

536
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 4: Did you have a time in mind and was the

537
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: world record also on your brain or was it just

538
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: winning the goal.

539
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: So it was all about winning, because that's the adjective,

540
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 5: you know. I was already the world record old in

541
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 5: too much. Yeah, but I thought, you know, as far

542
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 5: as times are concerned, I'm going to have to break

543
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 5: the world record again again. It race just because that

544
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 5: was the quality of the competition. So Frankie Fredericks who

545
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 5: got the silver and that broke the old world record,

546
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 5: yeah as well in second place. So it was I

547
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 5: already knew that it's going to take another world record.

548
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: Just how far under the world records are going to be.

549
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 5: I already knew I was going to break the world

550
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 5: record again because when I broke it before, I barely

551
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 5: broke it, and that was by far not the perfect race.

552
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Take us back to the first time.

553
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Speaker 2: You remember we're seeing you saying Bolt, Like, what did

554
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: Michael Johnson think about when he first saw Usain Bolt running.

555
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: Two thousand and four?

556
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 5: Was the first time I saw you saying into two

557
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 5: thousand and four Olympics and he didn't make the finals

558
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 5: into two hundred. He was probably eighteen years old maybe

559
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: at that point, but we had heard about him down

560
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 5: in Jamaica that the really tall kids j making coming

561
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: out of Jamaica was just the Stevena. So at that point,

562
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: you know you're thinking, you know, there's a lot of

563
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: talent that comes out of Jamaica. I mean, they they

564
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 5: got they manufactured so many sprinters, so you're like, okay,

565
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 5: they got another one.

566
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's just different because he's really tall and

567
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: he was very.

568
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 5: Gangly, you know, so he thought that he's got potential

569
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 5: and he might do something special, you know, one of

570
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: these days. But a lot of people have that potential.

571
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 5: So it wasn't until two thousand and eight that you

572
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 5: started to see that okay, you know, and.

573
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Speaker 1: It happened really really fast. You know.

574
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Speaker 5: It wasn't like, you know, between two thousand and four

575
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 5: and two thousand and eight he was really you know,

576
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 5: doing anything. He was having some injuries and things, but again,

577
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: you alwaysknew that potential with that. In two thousand and eight,

578
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: it just all came out.

579
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: I mean a Sopha Power was the guy at that time.

580
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: In two thousand and eight, it was at Icon Stadium

581
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: when they had that race at Randalls Island and that

582
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: shit changed everything, Like it was like, who the fuck

583
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: is this kid?

584
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

585
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I always feel Track is seventy percent

586
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: mental and thirty percent physical. What is going through your

587
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: brain in the blocks in the two hundred, and then

588
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: what's going through your brain in the four hundred, just

589
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: when you're in the blocks getting ready.

590
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 5: So it's the same for both of those races when

591
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 5: you're in the blocks, and the thing is just like

592
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 5: any other sport, the best of the best, No, so

593
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: that it doesn't matter. It's not a seventy percent mental,

594
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 5: thirty percent physical, thirty percent physicals you know, seventy percent mental.

595
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: And all of it is not about that.

596
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 5: What matters is that being able to be physically prepared,

597
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: having trained as well as you possibly can, is one component.

598
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 5: Being able to be mentally and emotionally in the right

599
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 5: mindset in those moments before you go out there and

600
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 5: those nerve recor racking moments before the gun goes out.

601
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: Being able to be in the right mindset to go

602
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 5: out there and execute your the best race matters. The

603
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: ability in the race to make the right decisions and

604
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: execute the strategy and make the right adjustments in real time.

605
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: And a nineteen second rate or even a nine second

606
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: rate matters, nutrition matters, recovery matters, All of those things matter,

607
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: So instead of focusing on well, how much is this one,

608
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: this one is ten percent, this one's twenty five percent,

609
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: this one seventy percent everything, you want to be one

610
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 5: hundred percent on all of those things. That's what the

611
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: best of the best in any sport does. So understanding

612
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: that you know you want to be in training every

613
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: day focused on being one hundred percent physically prepared and

614
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 5: in your best shape when you get to the race.

615
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: In your warm up and preparation, you want to already

616
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: have an understanding of how you mentally get yourself in

617
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: the right mindset to be able to deal with the

618
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: pressure and deal with the nerves and be able to

619
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: manage that so that you are able to go in

620
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: and not have to run tight, you can run your

621
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 5: best race. And those moments just before the gun goes out,

622
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: everybody's figured out what their routine is the best of

623
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: the best athletes. Those who aren't haven't figured that out yet,

624
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: and so they're sort of just kind of subject to

625
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: the moment and whatever sort of thoughts might come into

626
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 5: their mind. Of the best athletes, I already know it's

627
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 5: what I need to do in order to be at

628
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 5: my best. When it's gun goes out. For me, that

629
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 5: was being at the height of focus and only thinking

630
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: about what's the first step I've got to make, What's

631
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 5: the first action I have to take when this gun sounds.

632
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 5: I can't be ten seconds into the race. I can't

633
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: be thinking twenty seconds into the race. I damn sure

634
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: can't be thinking about what's going to happen after the

635
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 5: race or the end of the race. You got to

636
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 5: be focused on the moment when you're talking about a spoil.

637
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: The one thing about tractors different and costs for is

638
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: it costs for a focus.

639
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: Like nothing else.

640
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: We don't have any halftimes, we don't have quarters, we

641
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: don't have time out, you can't call time out, and

642
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: the gun sounds, Especially for sprints, there's no adjustments, So

643
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: the one hundred meters you can't really make an adjustment

644
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: in that race. Two hundred meters you might be able

645
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: to get away with one adjustment if you make a mistake.

646
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: Four hundred meters got a little bit more time to

647
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 5: make adjustments, but at the same time, because it's a

648
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 5: long sprint, the margin for area is much higher. Because

649
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: there's way more time to make mistakes that you have

650
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 5: to then adjust for so it takes a lot. So

651
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 5: all of this is you know, takes place at n

652
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: eighteen second race. I mean, when you're standing behind the blocks,

653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: you're it's the Olympic final. You know that nineteen seconds

654
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: from now, I'm either i'ma bet the Olympic champion or not.

655
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: And it all comes down to how I execute right now.

656
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: There's no timeout, there's no next year, there's no path time.

657
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: I can't you know, there's.

658
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: None of that, right.

659
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: Do you agree with a lot of the flact that

660
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: no Allows gets because of his his demeanor, his bravado.

661
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: He's very you know, his approach and his style is

662
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: a lot different. I laugh at people that don't like

663
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: him because I'm like, listen to he just seems like

664
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: he's just confident and what he does. A lot of

665
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: people are more laid back in track. You don't really

666
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of you know, people in track that.

667
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: Have these big personalities.

668
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: But I just think that that's part of the newer generation,

669
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: in the new era, is that you have social media

670
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: and you have all these outlets that you can use,

671
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: and I just think no Allows as a product of that.

672
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: Do you agree with some of the backlash or do

673
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: you understand how some people kind of like don't like

674
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: no Allows personality and would rather him just run and

675
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: not be so I guess loud.

676
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: All of that.

677
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: That's the world we live in, where everybody has a

678
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 5: right to their opinion to like or dislike any person

679
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: in the public for how they actually are, how they look,

680
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: who they are, what they say, how they go about.

681
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Their business, you know, you know, and that's this case

682
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: with Noah. He's the Olympic champion, World champion. He has

683
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: decided how he wants to build his brand, who he

684
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: wants to be, how he wants to be, and you're

685
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: going to have people who are going to support that,

686
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: and you're going to have people who are not. You're

687
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: going to have.

688
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: People who are saying you shouldn't do that, just like

689
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 5: you have people who said that no U saying boats

690
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: shouldn't be you know, it's you know, out there playing

691
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: to the crowd and whatnot like he does before. You

692
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: have people who said I shouldn't be so bowld as

693
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: to wear gold shoes. You have people who said Carl

694
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 5: Lewis was trying too hard to be a celebrity.

695
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: You know, are those people wrong? They're not wrong. That's

696
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: their opinion. There's no right or wrong to an opinion.

697
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Everybody has their has their opinion, and I don't nobody

698
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: have an opinion about you. Then you know you want

699
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: to be what I mean, if you want to be

700
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be numb with some people don't,

701
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: then great. But if you want to be known, you know,

702
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: you do what you want to do. And Noah's doing

703
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. But the thing is that

704
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Noah shows up and

705
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: races and he calls his shot. You know, you got

706
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: to you got to respect that, you know. Then he

707
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: goes out there and he calls his shot. I think

708
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: that you know, you know, he has put himself out there.

709
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: I just hope that he can handle, you know, because

710
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you you have to understand how much of the backlash

711
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: you can handle, you know, because he makes some bold claims,

712
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: he makes some bold statements along with that, you know,

713
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: and if you're going to make bold statements, first you

714
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: better be right. You know, you're not right, you know,

715
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes he's not right. And then he has come

716
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: back and apologize because he got his facts from it.

717
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: But he made a bull you know. So you know,

718
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: so that's the first thing.

719
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: And then you're going to have backlash when you made

720
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: bold statements, and especially again if you're not right about

721
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 5: what you say, then it's going to be backlass.

722
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: So you know that's and maybe he's good with that.

723
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

724
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: I feel like track runners, like even like Chakari, have

725
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: gotten backlash they don't deserve because I think track is

726
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: similar to boxing. I know that sounds like a very

727
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: insane take, but it's one of the few sports outside

728
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 4: of the relays, that is just me versus you. It's

729
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: the purest boxing and track to me, of the two

730
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 4: purest sports on Earth. They're also the only sport that

731
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 4: has to deal with survival as well fighting and running.

732
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand why track runners don't treat the Olympics

733
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: or even World Games or any meets like boxing. You

734
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: have to market yourself before every single fight. That's part

735
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 4: of the sport. I don't think track runners should be quiet.

736
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 4: I love what no Allowles is doing. You should treat

737
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: every single meet like it's a boxing match, to mark,

738
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: get it, promote, like you're gonna make your money off

739
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: the promotion. Boxing only lasts for this amount of time,

740
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: like that's what it should be.

741
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: I agree with you, but I think the issue has

742
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 5: been up until now. And again this is one of

743
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: the reasons why I created grands on tracks so we

744
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 5: can actually be a home for that where we can,

745
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 5: you know, athletes can feel more comfortable being themselves. But

746
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 5: look what we always tell our races, and we have

747
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: forty eight of them in our league and they're all

748
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: Olympic and World championship medalists and champions, you know, is

749
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 5: to be authentic because at the end of the day,

750
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 5: you know, you know, look, that's one of the things

751
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: that probably isn't going to fly too many other places.

752
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 5: Other are maybe in boxing. But if you're not authentic

753
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 5: and you're just trying to put on a personality and

754
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 5: where you better be damn good at it. Like WWE,

755
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: they're good at it, you know, they're amazing at it.

756
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 5: They can convince you, you know, because it's what's it's

757
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 5: how they're built. They're really good at it. But if

758
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: you're not really good at that, and that isn't the

759
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 5: sport w W that is the actual that is the craft.

760
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: Being really good at selling people on a persona and

761
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: being good at you know, presenting that persona, and in

762
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: every other sport, you know, it's the craft is the

763
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 5: sport itself, the skill of the sport. So in tract,

764
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: the skill is is winning races, being faster than any

765
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 5: other people. You're probably not spending your time trying to

766
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 5: actually create an exhibit, a persona and make people buy

767
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: into that persona. You're probably now there are people out

768
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: there who think they're good at it, and they're and

769
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: there and they're failing, you know, to com you know it.

770
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 5: But they think they're good at it. But look this,

771
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 5: you know today's audience. You know, I'm not one of them.

772
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: I'm not one of these young you know, young people.

773
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 5: How bad that's consuming about. But they are very good

774
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 5: at sipping through bullshit. They don't buy it. They're not

775
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 5: going to buy it. Right, I'm not one, but I

776
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: know them very well. A lot of them work for me,

777
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: and I study them, and we have to as a lead.

778
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 5: They're not buying bullshit, so we sort of we try

779
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: to lean into the actual authentic personality of our racers.

780
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 5: And then because there's somebody out there who's just like you,

781
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 5: no matter who you are, if you're a nerd, there's

782
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 5: somebody out there who's a TrackMan, that's a nerd. If

783
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 5: you're into you know, you know, whatever gaming, if you're

784
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 5: into you know, animals, you know, if you're religious, whatever

785
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 5: it might be. You know, if there's someone out there

786
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 5: who loves track, who loves sports, and they're just like you,

787
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: and now you're their person. Right, So look, you know,

788
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 5: if you're not, if it's not natural to you, trying

789
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: to come out, you know and be like a boxer

790
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 5: and you know and do all, it doesn't work, you know.

791
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 5: So we have rivals and grants on track. We have

792
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 5: people who have rivalries. And some of the folks are

793
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: you know, quiet and you know, and they just kind

794
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 5: of go, okay, we'll see, we'll get there, you know.

795
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: And then you got some that are like, you know,

796
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: I'm gonna kick your assa, I'm gonna do all of this,

797
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 5: you know, like that. And then you got some but like,

798
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: you know, just want to just kind of sit back

799
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: and go, I got nothing to say.

800
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I'll let my legs go to talk and say that then, right,

801
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, and we and and and it.

802
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: Works, and it works brilliant, and we promote all of

803
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: that in our race group and our men's fifteen hundred

804
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: meter runners gold silver browns from the Olympics on the podium.

805
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: We sign them all to the league. They're a good

806
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 5: example of that. They're all different and they all take

807
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: their individual approach. But you ask them who's gonna win,

808
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: they all say it's gonna be mer Like, Okay, well,

809
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: you know, you got to go through that person. They're like,

810
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: I know, I'm gonna have to go through them, and

811
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: I will go through them, right, you know. And some

812
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 5: do it from the perspective of being a nerd. Some

813
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 5: do it from the perspective of being I'm keen, calm

814
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: and you know, and and it's just different, right, It's authentic,

815
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: And that's what I think our fans appreciate. That's why

816
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: they love it, because it's authentic. They're all themselves.

817
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I hear that and love that. To quickly

818
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: go back to the ninety six Games. Where were you

819
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: when the bomb went off in Centennial Park.

820
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 5: I was right across the street. I was at the

821
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 5: at the Grant at the Hyatt. I was staying at

822
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: the Hyatt s CNN Center, which is right across the street.

823
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: It was two nights before It's the omni I think

824
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 5: now yep, yeah, yeah. It was two nights before my

825
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: first race, and I was sleep. I just went to sleep.

826
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: I just gone to sleep, and then my phone kept

827
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: bringing it with my brother. He had just got in town.

828
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 5: It's like you're okay, and I was like yeah. He's like, man,

829
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: it's like there's all these police coming by me. I

830
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 5: just got in town on the highways. Like they set

831
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 5: up bombing off somewhere over near yor hotel.

832
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, Oh, you didn't even hear it.

833
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it.

834
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: No, No, but yeah, that was It was a little

835
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 5: really right across from from a hotel, right across the street.

836
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: And it was two days before. So the next day

837
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: we went short.

838
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: We were even gonna run the next day, and ultimately

839
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 5: they decided not to postpone the games and so we went.

840
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: Was was that added pressure outside of the immense pressure already.

841
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that has to like change your whole mental Yeah,

842
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: like how does an athlete?

843
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: No, you know, I mean, I mean, like you know,

844
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

845
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 5: I think I think it was kind of understood that

846
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 5: it was an isolated event and then you know, there

847
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 5: was one casualty from it. You know which was, which

848
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 5: was obviously unfortunate. But you know, you know, at that point,

849
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: you know, you're just so locked in, you know that,

850
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: you know, you just focused on on the task at

851
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 5: hand and what happens on the track, And you know,

852
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 5: I think I don't think there was any concern at

853
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 5: that point, given that, you know, at that point, they

854
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 5: weren't even short if it was an.

855
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: Accident or what it was. Yes, then they did find

856
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: out it was.

857
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 5: A bomb, but it felt like that they felt like

858
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: it was an isolated event, so we just got on

859
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: with it.

860
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: Recently, there was something, uh to kind of laugh at

861
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 2: in track and field, uhl, this one, this one, this one,

862
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: and you know, talking to somebody like you was obviously

863
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: track Royalty.

864
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: What did you think about?

865
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: Uh, the relay runners and the girl with the baton

866
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: who said it was an accident with her hitting the

867
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: other runner in the head with the baton. Now, I've

868
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: never ran track. Just looking at it, it's not a

869
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: natural That wasn't a natural motion.

870
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: That was her running stuff. No, that was not a

871
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: natural fuck emotion.

872
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: So as just asking Michael John, what do you think

873
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: looking at it? Did you laugh when she said it

874
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: was an accident and she didn't see her like as

875
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: a runner.

876
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: What did you think in that moment?

877
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: I thought it was crazy, right, it was. It was

878
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 5: pretty crazy. The initial reaction was, what the hell is

879
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: going on?

880
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: Right? This is crazy? Right?

881
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 5: But I think that both of you guys kind of

882
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: represent you know, the two different opinions, which is, you know, like,

883
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 5: you know, like she does have a crazy running style.

884
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 5: It looks a little crazy, right, And then she was

885
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: you know, you know, uh, you know, knocked off balance.

886
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 5: But it looks like, you know, from your perspective as well,

887
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 5: it's like it looks like, yeah.

888
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: You got she kind of wound up, you know.

889
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: So look, man, I think you're going to have I

890
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 5: don't know, you know, I wasn't there. I don't know

891
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: what was happening. Everybody's got their opinions on things. I'm

892
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 5: a fact based person. If I don't have the facts

893
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: that I don't, you know, I don't I don't tend

894
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 5: to tend to go in on an opinion. I don't

895
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: think my opinion really matters on this, right, you know,

896
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 5: I don't think it's consequential to the situation, and it

897
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: doesn't really matter to me either. But you know, looking

898
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: at it, it's kind of like it's one of the

899
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 5: wildest things I've seen quite sometimes, right, I mean it's

900
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: pretty wild, pretty wild situation. And you know, the at

901
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 5: the end of the day, the thing that still seems

902
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 5: to be, you know, most unfortunate is that you know,

903
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: these two young athletes, you know, are no in the

904
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: situation where you know that from to my understanding, there

905
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: hasn't been an apology, you know, even if there was

906
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 5: an accident. You know, that was the thing that I

907
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 5: think just compounded the situation that you know, you didn't

908
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: go over and apologize and literally left the track that

909
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 5: they just you know, haven't just hit someone in the

910
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: head with the with the baton, right, and which such

911
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: sounds crazy just even saying that, right, I mean, it

912
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: looks even crazy when we sing it. Yeah, go check

913
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 5: it out because it is crazy. But yeah, yeah, that

914
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 5: was that was unfortunate though, that's the main thing that

915
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 5: came out of it. Is unfortunate, regardless whether it was

916
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: intended or not. And I look, ill, I have no.

917
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: Problems saying that I don't know what happened, but it's

918
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: really difficult to convince anybody you're gonna have a hard

919
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: time convince anybody that wasn't intentional exactly.

920
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: I gave her grace when I saw the first angle

921
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: when they were coming around the corner, I was like,

922
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 4: all right, maybe she did stumble. Then I saw the

923
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: camera angle from the other side, like on her back,

924
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, she just knocked that chick

925
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: out like it was Definitely there was not a running

926
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: style at all. No, she clearly did that, which, again

927
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: to your point, I've never seen some shit like that.

928
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: I was running one hundred and sixty eighth Street Armory

929
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: in Washington Heights, where there'd be fights after track meets.

930
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone hit somebody with the baton in

931
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 4: my life.

932
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: Right, that is insane. Right, Mike quickly, how does you

933
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: feel watching your world record be broken?

934
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: You know, that's it's a very It's a good question.

935
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 5: I get asked that question a lot of times because

936
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: the automatic assumption is is that you know you're sad

937
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: that your record cat broken. When you're saying broke my

938
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: two hundred meter record, I was eight years into my retirement.

939
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: I had been retired for eight years when Wave van

940
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 5: Knee Kirk broke my four hundred meter world record. I've

941
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: been retired for sixteen years, and I was in the

942
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 5: stadium as a television commentator for BBC for both of

943
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: those races.

944
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: And look in the eight years.

945
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: From the time I retired to when you say broke

946
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 5: my record in the sixteen years. So I never introduced

947
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: myself as the world record holder because it's not part

948
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: of my identity. It's not how I see myself as

949
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: the stilled the world record holder. When I was competing.

950
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: I saw myself that way, and if anybody had broken

951
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 5: my world records when I was competing, then I would

952
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 5: have been that would become Mission number one is get

953
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 5: it back.

954
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: Okay, makes sense.

955
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 5: You know, when you're retired from the sport, you're not

956
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: going to go get that record back and just holding

957
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 5: onto it.

958
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't really that. I've always been about

959
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: goals and accomplishments.

960
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 5: And you know, it's it's not I'm not those eight

961
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: years like people always say, oh man, you held on

962
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 5: to that record for sixteen years in the forumn, like

963
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 5: that's a long time. Like I didn't do that right,

964
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 5: just nobody had run faster. But that wasn't anything that

965
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: I did. You know, you could say Okay, well you

966
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 5: put it so far out.

967
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: There, you know.

968
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, that's cool. But the thing is, again, it's

969
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 5: about the accomplishment, you know. I still remember how hard

970
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 5: I worked and how long I chased both of those records,

971
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 5: and I remember the day I broke it and the

972
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: team that would you know, worked with me, that helped

973
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 5: me break them.

974
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: That's what you remember. You'll cherish that moment forever. The

975
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: it is the.

976
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 5: Accomplishment, but the idea that you're going to hold on

977
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: to a record, you know, till you die. I mean

978
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: when by the time I, you know, had retired, I

979
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 5: moved on to doing other things, and I was accomplishing

980
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 5: other things as an entrepreneur, you know, and so I

981
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 5: wasn't caught up in being the world record overly, so

982
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: things didn't really change for me.

983
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I remember going into the studio the next day.

984
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: After the record was broken, and one of my co

985
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 5: hosts on another show that I did for BBC Journey.

986
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Olympics, she was like, everybody's like, are you okay? And

987
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: I was like what, There's somebody like, what is going on? Right?

988
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: You know?

989
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 4: Did you have all right? So when you say boat

990
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 4: broke the one hundred meter record. It almost felt like

991
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: he jogged through the fucking line of how amazing he

992
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: was as a track icon, you understand body language and

993
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: facial expressions. He fought for that two hundred. I've never

994
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: seen Usain boat put in the effort he did to

995
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: break that record. While you were watching it, it was like,

996
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: all right, cool, but Usain has never looked like he

997
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 4: was struggling until it was time to try to break

998
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: your record. His whole face on that two hundred. But

999
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: we had never even seen Usain look like that.

1000
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 5: But he is always said and has said then like

1001
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: the two hundred meters was always his favorite race because

1002
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 5: that's that was that was that was Nobody even thought

1003
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 5: he was ever going to be a one hundred meter run.

1004
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, two hundred meters is the race.

1005
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: That's the one that he wanted most and like, but

1006
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 5: you knew it was coming, Like I mean, like I

1007
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: remember the day of that race and I was like

1008
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: doing some analysis for BBC and I was like, I'll

1009
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 5: be shocked if he doesn't.

1010
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: Break this world record. Right, it was crazy that I

1011
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: thought he was going to run.

1012
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 5: So he ultimately he ran nineteen point eighteen, right, which

1013
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 5: is the world record today. But when he broke at

1014
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 5: the first time, what I had ran was nineteen point

1015
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 5: three two, and he ran nineteen point three one. And

1016
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 5: you could just tell that day, even if demeanor was different,

1017
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 5: like I'm going to break this record no matter what,

1018
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 5: I don't care what it takes, right, because that's the

1019
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 5: one that he always wanted, and I think that was

1020
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 5: the one also that he probably felt like, if I'm

1021
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: going to break it, I'm gonna break that one first.

1022
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 5: And it didn't come first. One hundred came first. I

1023
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 5: know it was something he always wanted. But I didn't

1024
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 5: feel like he was struggling. I felt like he was,

1025
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 5: you look at it here, trying really hard, which is

1026
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 5: actually what you shouldn't do.

1027
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: Yes, we never seen his swagger and his calmness was.

1028
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: Hiring really hard.

1029
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, I think in the one hundred,

1030
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 5: it was always sort of you know, I'm gonna get

1031
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 5: this record. You know he were The first time he

1032
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 5: broke it, he shocked himself. He wasn't even expecting to

1033
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 5: break it. Nobody thought he was a break. It came

1034
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 5: out of nowhere. The next time he broke it, I think,

1035
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: you know, at the Olympics, in twenty in two thousand

1036
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 5: and eight. You know, I think then it was kind

1037
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: of like, yeah, I think, I know, I'm gonna break

1038
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: it again. But the two hundred, he was trying hard

1039
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 5: and he really wanted it and got it.

1040
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, quickly before we let you go, talk to

1041
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: us a little bit more about Grand Slam Track. What

1042
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: is the what is the goal outside of just giving

1043
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: runners a home when it's not the Olympics, what is

1044
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 2: the goal in the mission with Grand Slam Track.

1045
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: The ultimate vision for it is, you know, grands Track

1046
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: should be the Formula one, the us See of track,

1047
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 5: you know, or the fastest people in the world. And

1048
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: so we know that there's a fan base out there

1049
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 5: for this sport. They watch it every year.

1050
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: There's you know.

1051
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 5: One hundred over one hundred million people a year watching

1052
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 5: two track meets, over three hundred million people a year

1053
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: watching at least two track meets, and you know, and

1054
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: during the Olympics, everybody's watching the sport. They love it

1055
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 5: and it's their favorite sport. So the structure of the

1056
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 5: sport just has not been sufficient because there hasn't been

1057
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 5: a true home for these athletes as a league. So,

1058
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: you know, we feel very confident that we can get there,

1059
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 5: and so it's delivering to fans the same type of

1060
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 5: epic competition between the fastest people, with storytelling highlighting these personalities.

1061
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 5: But primarily the main thing here is having the fastest

1062
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 5: people competing against one another, which we typically don't see

1063
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 5: outside of the Olympics because the structure hasn't been there

1064
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 5: to actually compensate their athletes in.

1065
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Order to make it worth their while. We put these

1066
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: athletes under contract.

1067
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 5: We have the fast people on the planet under contract

1068
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: and this exclusive home for them with band soundtrack.

1069
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: Why hasn't Why has it?

1070
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean I'm happy that you're doing this, but why

1071
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: hasn't it been anything like this with track?

1072
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: Like what is the what do you wa as? It's

1073
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: a little bit complex, but as an Olympic sport, it's

1074
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: been primarily been left to global federation, the global governing

1075
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: bodies of the sport. Governing bodies are great at rules

1076
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: and governors, that's what they do really well. They're not

1077
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: great at marketing and commercialization, which is what it takes

1078
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: to be a modern thriving sports property, and it typically

1079
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: takes a for profit private, you know, unpolitical organization to

1080
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: be able to do that, which is what we are.

1081
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: We're venture backed, uh private for profit you know, entity,

1082
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 5: just like most other professional sports are. And so no

1083
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: one has been able to marshal all of the resources

1084
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 5: as well to understand the sport at the level that

1085
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: I have. Han't been an athlete, having represented athletes, Jeremy.

1086
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: Warren it was one of my class for my.

1087
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: Sports management company represented, so we've represented athletes. I've been

1088
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: a television commentator for twenty two years covering the sport

1089
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 5: as well, so I understand the sport as sort of

1090
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 5: all angles and have been able to recognize, you know,

1091
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: what is needed in order for this sport to be

1092
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 5: able to thrive. But then you also have to have

1093
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 5: the ability to then sort of step outside of the sport.

1094
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 5: I'm a fan of the sport, but typically you know,

1095
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: as a fan, you're sort of protective of you know,

1096
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 5: this sport and what it has always been and how

1097
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: it's traditionally been, and that's that can be. It's almost

1098
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: like that thing you know, like if you do something

1099
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 5: too tight and squeeze it, you know, you'll squeeze.

1100
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: The life out of it and you don't let it thrive.

1101
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 5: And that's sort of what happens a lot with try

1102
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 5: that a lot of people that are involved in the

1103
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 5: sport and have been for many years that love the sport,

1104
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: but they love it too much that they don't let

1105
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 5: it thrive. And so what has happened is as you've

1106
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 5: seen the media landscape and how broadcast media and traditional

1107
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: media has changed in response to social.

1108
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: Media and digital media.

1109
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 5: And how all of those things are changing, those things

1110
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 5: are changing, as well as people's viewing habits and the

1111
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 5: way fans engage with sport and engage with entertainment.

1112
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: All of those things have changed. Most sports continue to

1113
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: change along with that out of necessity. As an Olympic sport,

1114
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: you don't feel oftentimes like you need to change, and

1115
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: then you want to hold onto this traditional way of

1116
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: doing things, and that is falt because the sport to

1117
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: fall behind dramatically. And so we are you know, kind

1118
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: of sit outside at that structure and have the ability

1119
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: to do.

1120
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: Things that are much more create a much more modern

1121
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 5: presentation of the sport and capitalize on all of the

1122
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: sort of digital technology tools that are out there, but

1123
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: also to understand what people's viewing have it so what

1124
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 5: they really want to see how they want to.

1125
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: Engage with sport and be able to build our league

1126
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: around all of those things.

1127
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: That's amazing And any way we can help out with that,

1128
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: like go on the commentating side content around it.

1129
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: We're here. Yeah, I would love to just just see

1130
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: the whole would be incredible.

1131
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 5: Buy some tickets and come to it. If you're not

1132
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 5: watch it on TV. We what we can get, can

1133
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 5: I can?

1134
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: I put you on the spot right before we let

1135
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: you go. I see the ring on your fingers. So

1136
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 4: if you want to pass on this question, it's totally fine.

1137
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 4: There was an article this year talking about how freaky

1138
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: the Olympic Village gets and how many contents. I'm telling you,

1139
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: there was like it was a New York Times of

1140
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: how many condoms are used at the uh Olympic Village.

1141
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 4: You could pass on the question, It's fine. I just

1142
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask it though.

1143
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 5: Man, I mean, if I could answer it, I would.

1144
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: I can't because I never stayed in the village, so whatever.

1145
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 3: They have they he wasn't with you peasants. The world's

1146
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: fastest man stayed in the village.

1147
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: In the village, man, but I you know, I heard

1148
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: the stories because I never I never stayed in the village.

1149
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 5: I respected Mike missed out on whatever was going on

1150
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 5: though it sounds like it was ethic, but.

1151
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: It sounds like it was a great time, but I

1152
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: missed it, Mike, listen crazy. We appreciate you, uh, congrats

1153
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: with everything you're doing with Grand Slam track.

1154
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: We're definitely gonna support it.

1155
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: Definitely want to come to a couple of events and

1156
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: races just to see everything that you're building with Grand Slam.

1157
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: We appreciate you.

1158
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: It's and the privilege to have some time with you,

1159
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: and thank you for entertaining us over the years. Thank

1160
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: you for giving us something to look at and just

1161
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: be in awe of, and just thank you for kicking

1162
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: with us today.

1163
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

1164
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 4: As a former track runner, thank you so much for

1165
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 4: what you're doing Grand Slam like that means a lot

1166
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 4: to track runners to finally make this thing really matter

1167
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: and actually get what we're worth in this entire thing,

1168
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 4: so any way we can help.

1169
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: I am here for sure, So thank you so much

1170
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: that man.

1171
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, appreciate the support.

1172
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: Thank you, man, appreciate you all right, take care, peace

1173
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: yet