WEBVTT - FOUR Terror Attacks in Ten Days, and Still Dems Won't Fund DHS

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Centater.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot to talk about on today's show,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in light of these most recent terrorist attacks happening

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<v Speaker 2>right here in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Ben, you're right, we're sitting here today in an

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<v Speaker 3>extraordinarily dangerous time. In the last ten days, we've had

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<v Speaker 3>four separate terror attacks, all carried out by radical Islamic terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>all targeting Americans, seeking to kill Americans, and all at

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<v Speaker 3>a time when there's a military conflict in the Middle

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<v Speaker 3>East that is unfolding as we speak, and when we

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<v Speaker 3>have multiple radical Islamic clerics who've issued fatwaws calling on

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<v Speaker 3>terrorists to murder Americans. Understand that we went through four

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<v Speaker 3>years of Joe Biden with a why open border. Twelve

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<v Speaker 3>million illegal immigrants came into this country, including thousands of terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>we had four years of basically a red carpet inviting

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<v Speaker 3>Hamas terrorists, inviting Hesbala terrorists, inviting Iranian terrorists come to America.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've now seen in less than two weeks, four

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<v Speaker 3>separate terror attacks. And I'll tell you that the part

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<v Speaker 3>of this that just makes your brain explode is the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats in the Senate keep voting over and over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again to defund the Department of Homeland Security. Now, now,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the Department of Homeland Security. DHS was created

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<v Speaker 3>after September eleventh, and the entire purpose of DHS is

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<v Speaker 3>to prevent terrorist attacks, and the Democrats keep voting over

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<v Speaker 3>and over and over again not to pay the people

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<v Speaker 3>at DHS to defund it. This is dangerous, and Ben,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be very serious. I am deeply concerned

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<v Speaker 3>that we could be on the precipice of a major

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<v Speaker 3>terrorist attack. Not a terrorist attack that kills one, two

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<v Speaker 3>or three people, but a terrorist attack that kills hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>or even thousands of people. And the agency whose responsibility

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<v Speaker 3>day in and day out is stop the terrorists before

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<v Speaker 3>they kill Americans, the Democrats have defunded. The media is

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<v Speaker 3>ignoring it, and the Democrats have said they feel quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote serene about shutting down the Department of Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 3>even in this greatly heightened threat environment.

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<v Speaker 2>seem to have no problem shutting down specifically the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Home and Security.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the Democrats here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to walk us through what it was

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<v Speaker 2>like on Thursday, because just my gut instinct was before

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<v Speaker 2>you guys left town for the week of work that

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<v Speaker 2>was done, they would be sensible enough seeing these attacks

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<v Speaker 2>to say we've got it. We've got we can't have

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<v Speaker 2>this political liability on ICE. It's going to come back

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<v Speaker 2>on us if there is a major tears attack because

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<v Speaker 2>we're the ones that have shut down the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>hogand Security. Were any of your colleagues willing to like

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<v Speaker 2>share that with their other colleagues and the Democratic side

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<v Speaker 2>the isle, like, hey, guys, this is a bad look.

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<v Speaker 2>We do not need to be playing this political game

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Look if they are, I don't see it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>We voted again on Thursday to fund the Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Homeland Security. Every Republican voted to fund DHS. Every single

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat except John Fetterman once again voted no shut down DHS.

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<v Speaker 3>And understand by the way, they claim they're doing it

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<v Speaker 3>because they hate ICE. Yeah, because they want reforms and Ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the amazing thing. Do you know what they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>defunded Ice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Ice is actually funded because when we took up the

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<v Speaker 3>Working Families tax cut last year, the big reconciliation bill,

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<v Speaker 3>we knew the Democrats were going to be open border radicals,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we funded ICE through through the year. So

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<v Speaker 3>ICE is fully funded, like all of their antics are

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<v Speaker 3>not taking a penny from ICE agents. ICE is fully funded.

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<v Speaker 3>So they are shutting down the remainder of DHS. They're

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<v Speaker 3>shutting down the Coast Guard and not paying Coastguard men

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<v Speaker 3>and women that they're shutting down TSA. Look, we are

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<v Speaker 3>seeing lines at airports. Houston Hobby Airport last week there

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<v Speaker 3>were lines four hours long people heading out to spring break.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine how pissed off you'd be you take

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<v Speaker 3>your family to the airport, your kids are there. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>say you're super, super uptight, you get to the airport

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<v Speaker 3>an hour and a half ahead of time. You should

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<v Speaker 3>be there an hour ahead of time, but you're really uptight.

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<v Speaker 3>You're there an hour and a half ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you miss your plane by two and a half

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<v Speaker 3>hours because the TSA line is four hours. Look, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell tell you what I go through. And I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>a plane every week, multiple times a week. As i

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<v Speaker 3>go through and see the TSA agents, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make it a point to stop. I do this regularly anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>but especially now to say to them, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And I gotta say, those men and women are coming

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<v Speaker 3>into work with no paycheck. And by the way, look

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<v Speaker 3>TSA agents are not rich. No, many of them are

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<v Speaker 3>living paycheck to paycheck. You know what hasn't come their paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>And so a bunch of them, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>is uber and lyft drivers and other part time jobs

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<v Speaker 2>because they need their cash.

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<v Speaker 3>And at some points we're going to see more and

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<v Speaker 3>more of them say all right, this job is not

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I can't be in a job that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>pay a paycheck. I'm done. And that is happening. So

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<v Speaker 3>you've got TSA agents not being paid, Coast guardsmen not

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<v Speaker 3>being paid, FEMA officials, those in charge of dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>natural disasters not being paid, and then thousands of just

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<v Speaker 3>employees at the Department of Homeland Security, employees charge with

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<v Speaker 3>monitoring terrorists, with stopping terrorist attacks. And the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 3>not only not paying them. I want to quote Brian

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<v Speaker 3>shots Brian Shotts is a Democrat from Hawaii. He is

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<v Speaker 3>widely seen as the Democrat leader in waiting. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Schumer cannot win another election. The Democrats will primary

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<v Speaker 3>him either AOC or Mandami will beat him in a primary.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I think Schumer won't even run. Brian Schotz

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<v Speaker 3>has seen as the next Democrat leader. Let me give

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<v Speaker 3>you shots this quote this week, he said, Democrats are

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<v Speaker 3>quote very serene with what is going on concerning DHS.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because the media won't hold them to account, so

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<v Speaker 3>they don't mind shutting down the agency stopping terror attacks

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<v Speaker 3>even after we've had four radical Islamic terror attacks in

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<v Speaker 3>ten day center.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I think it's important that

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<v Speaker 2>we go back and give a stat to and I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking this up earlier, but when Donald Trump became

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<v Speaker 2>president in twenty seventeen, you had two people on the

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<v Speaker 2>terrorists watch list that came across this Southern board that

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<v Speaker 2>we caught. Now we don't know how many got across

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<v Speaker 2>that we didn't catch. Godaways in twenty eighteen there were six,

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty nineteen apparently there was zero.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty there was three.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you look at those numbers, that's pretty good when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to board security. We watched when Biden came

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<v Speaker 2>in office twenty or fifteen in twenty twenty one, then

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<v Speaker 2>it skyrocketed to ninety eight in twenty twenty two, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty nine and twenty twenty three, and then

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<v Speaker 2>well over one hundred encounters in twenty twenty four. I

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<v Speaker 2>give that number because this goes back to the terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>threat we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there's concerns of sleeper sales.

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<v Speaker 2>There's concerns of people that came across the southern border

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<v Speaker 2>that were terrafts. They're on the Terrafts watch list, that

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<v Speaker 2>were never caught there, the Godaways. But what we do

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<v Speaker 2>know is when they open the southern border and let

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<v Speaker 2>anyone come in. I go back to that famous moment

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<v Speaker 2>in video where that forkliff lifted up the bob wire

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<v Speaker 2>and the fencing in Texas and we saw all of

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<v Speaker 2>those people come across the border. The federal government did that,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're faced with all these terrorist attacks, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's terror. There's Americans that are concerned just like me,

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<v Speaker 2>who's in this country that we don't know about.

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<v Speaker 3>Look Ben for good reason. And by the way, those

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<v Speaker 3>numbers vastly underestimated because they do not include the roughly

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<v Speaker 3>two million what are called godaways that enter under the

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<v Speaker 3>Biden administration. The Godaways are the people that we saw

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<v Speaker 3>signs they were there, but border patrol did not encounter them,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we don't know the details. And the god

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<v Speaker 3>aways are much much more likely to be criminals. They're

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<v Speaker 3>much more likely to be murderers or rapists or child molesters,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're much more likely to be terrorists. During the

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<v Speaker 3>Biden administration, CBP issued a warning to its agents beyond

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<v Speaker 3>the guard for Hamas terrorists, Hesbela terrists, Palestinian Islamic Jehad terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet they continued these open border policies. And understand,

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<v Speaker 3>the open border policies were a choice. We now know

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<v Speaker 3>that for a fact, although regular listeners of a verdict

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<v Speaker 3>knew that at the time. How do we know that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because the instant Donald Trump came back into office, the

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<v Speaker 3>illegal border crossings dropped ninety nine percent. Joe Biden, the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats said, gosh, we got to pass different legislation. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't. You just needed to have a president who

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<v Speaker 3>would follow the law, who would actually enforce the law.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to break down the four terror attacks

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<v Speaker 3>because they all have similarities. They were carried out by

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<v Speaker 3>radical Islamic terrorists. They were targeting Americans. It started in Austin,

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<v Speaker 3>Texas with a legal immigrant who had come to the

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<v Speaker 3>United States who showed up in Austin wearing a shirt

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<v Speaker 3>that a sweatshirt that said property of Allah, wearing a

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<v Speaker 3>shirt underneath it with an Iranian flag, had a Quran

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<v Speaker 3>in his car and with a rifle and pistol. He

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<v Speaker 3>just opened fire randomly at people in a bar at

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<v Speaker 3>two am in Austin on Sixth Street. That was the

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<v Speaker 3>first terror attack we saw a week and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 3>The second terror attack we saw was two Muslim teenagers

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<v Speaker 3>from Pennsylvania who came to New York. Came to New

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<v Speaker 3>York with homemade bombs. They said that they were inspired

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<v Speaker 3>by ISIS. They threw those bombs outside at a protest

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<v Speaker 3>that was happening outside Marimondami's residence. The bombs were filled

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<v Speaker 3>with nails and screws and bolts. They were designed to

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<v Speaker 3>be anti personnel bombs. Fortunately, these terrorists were not very

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<v Speaker 3>smart terrorists. They didn't know how to make a bomb

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<v Speaker 3>that actually went off, so the bombs they threw did

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<v Speaker 3>not explode. But they told law enforcement that their goal

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<v Speaker 3>was to kill more people than the Boston marathon bomber

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<v Speaker 3>had killed. They said they only killed three people. And

0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.480
<v Speaker 3>these guys wanted to kill a lot more. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we saw, just in the last couple of days, we

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<v Speaker 3>saw the deranged radical Islamic terrorists who drove drove his

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<v Speaker 3>vehicle into a Michigan synagogue. And that synagogue, understand, was

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<v Speaker 3>a preschool and school. There were one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 3>kids right there next to where he came in. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you didn't have a brave security guard that took

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<v Speaker 3>out took out the deranged terrorist, you could have had

0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.200
<v Speaker 3>one hundred more kids killed. And then you had an

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<v Speaker 3>Old Dominion on other deranged terrorists. And to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>this terrorist had been imprisoned, yes, for giving material support

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<v Speaker 3>to ISIS, and yet he was released from federal prison

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<v Speaker 3>under Joe Biden. Let me give you a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of the background on the Old Dominion terrorist. He was

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<v Speaker 3>born in Sierra Leone. He became a naturalized US citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>He was radicalized by al Kaeda. He was convicted for

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<v Speaker 3>providing material support to ISIS. He was sentenced to eleven

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<v Speaker 3>years in prison, and then he was released from prison

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<v Speaker 3>early under Joe Biden. And he walked into an Old

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<v Speaker 3>Dominion classroom and he asked the people there, he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>are y'all. Rotzi, he was looking four in particular US

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<v Speaker 3>military to murder. Yeah, they said yes, and he opened fire.

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<v Speaker 3>And just like what happened in Michigan, you had a

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<v Speaker 3>Rozzi student who stood up and stabbed him, had a

0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.480
<v Speaker 3>knife on him, stabbed him and took him out. Many

0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:22.840
<v Speaker 3>more students and or Rotzi soon to be soldiers, could

0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.960
<v Speaker 3>have been murdered if you had not had one brave

0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.320
<v Speaker 3>student step up and stop him. All three of these,

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<v Speaker 3>all four of these rather share striking patterns, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is exactly what DHS is designed.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop Yeah, I mean you will get DHS. And I

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<v Speaker 1>go back to this funding fight.

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<v Speaker 2>How long is it going to take for Democrats to

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<v Speaker 2>get their head out of their abs on this one?

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<v Speaker 2>And I say this with fear, Senator, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be very clear about that. Does it take a tragic,

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<v Speaker 2>bigger event for them to then wake up and say okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because you've had four in a week and a half

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<v Speaker 2>and that didn't shake them to do the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, all because the obsessed with going against ICE,

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<v Speaker 2>and you said it earlier. ICE has already been fully

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<v Speaker 2>funded for the year, So that's not what they're actually

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<v Speaker 2>doing here. It's almost as if they I mean, at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, I'm like, are you guys helping the terrorists

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<v Speaker 2>more than the American people be safe?

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<v Speaker 1>I look out and say, yes, that's what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're helping them.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben. Let me tell you why they feel serene. They

0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.680
<v Speaker 3>feel serene because nobody holds them to account. They feel

0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.600
<v Speaker 3>serene because number one, they're left wing activists, don't care.

0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.000
<v Speaker 3>They live in a bubble where everything is orange man bad,

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<v Speaker 3>everything is attacking Trump. But number two, the press is

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally broken. The reason the Democrats are to use their

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<v Speaker 3>own words serene is they know, no matter how many

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<v Speaker 3>terror attacks occur while they've shut down DHS, the press

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<v Speaker 3>will never hold them to account. So, for example, here's

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<v Speaker 3>what CNN tweeted out about the two terrorists who threw

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<v Speaker 3>through bombs in New York City, seeking to kill as

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<v Speaker 3>many people as possible. See Ann tweeted out the following quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning

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<v Speaker 3>for what could have been a normal day, enjoying the

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<v Speaker 3>city during abnormally warm weather. But in less than an hour,

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.720
<v Speaker 3>their lives would dramat drastically changes. The pair would be

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<v Speaker 3>arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti Muslim protest

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<v Speaker 3>outside Mayor zo Ron Mandami's home. That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Having just come back from Israel, I want to paint

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<v Speaker 2>you a picture. It's midnight, sirens are blaring and you

0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:41.280
<v Speaker 2>have only seconds to grab your child and run. Now

0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.280
<v Speaker 2>imagine your elderly. Your legs don't work like they used to.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting downstairs feels impossible, and after all of that, you

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<v Speaker 2>end up in a bomb shelter for hours, even days,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can't make the trek again. This is what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening across Israel as Operation Epic Fury continues. Are being traumatized,

0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 2>families are just exhausted, and homes have been destroyed. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is

0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:14.199
<v Speaker 2>there on the ground, bringing food, emergency equipment, care for

0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.199
<v Speaker 2>those children, and help for the elderly, and supplying the

0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:22.440
<v Speaker 2>bomb shelters and medical centers for critically needed essentials. If

0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.919
<v Speaker 2>you've ever wondered what it looks like to stand for

0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Israel and stand for good against evil, this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I'm asking to now please act, give

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.560
<v Speaker 2>forty five dollars right now to rush life saving essentials

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.640
<v Speaker 2>to the vulnerables under fire. You can also call eight

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<v Speaker 1>That's IFCJ dot org. Senator.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about these tarist tax and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the DHS funding aspect of this, and

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned it before the break a moment ago, the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Home Land Security not being funded and these

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<v Speaker 2>four terarist attacks in a normal world with the normal

0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.840
<v Speaker 2>media would be front page news and they'd be running

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<v Speaker 2>up and they'd be sticking a microphone in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the face of the people that voted no to funding DHS.

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to the media when they were obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with the price of eggs, remember, and they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say that it was somehow Donald Trump's fault of

0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the egg prices were high. They went like twenty four

0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.120
<v Speaker 2>to seven coverage on that over eggs. But on this

0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:39.440
<v Speaker 2>issue they're completely gone from covering it and holding accountable

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the Democratic leadership, like how are you guys holding this up?

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<v Speaker 2>There are dead Americans and that's not sensationalizing that as

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<v Speaker 2>a fact, there are dead Americans and terrorist attacks, and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have unfunded the department that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing this in charge of it helping with US

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<v Speaker 2>aiding with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why on earth are you doing this to Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a single journalists at any of the major networks

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<v Speaker 2>got in the face of anyone that was leaving town

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday from DC after yet again voting no to

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<v Speaker 2>funding DHS.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democrats, it is hard to overstate how little they're concerned. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they could leave DHS defunded for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. I mean, I mean, that's really how

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<v Speaker 3>bad it is. They're not concerned at all. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>care about the people whose lives they're ruining. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>care about the people who can't pay their rent or

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.160
<v Speaker 3>can't feed their kids, and they don't care about leaving

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.640
<v Speaker 3>us exposed to a massive terrorist attack. And that seems harsh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like saying they don't care about it, because

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<v Speaker 3>but give me an alternative explanation. And I think the

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 3>media plays a huge part in it because they believe

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<v Speaker 3>there is zero cost, so they're appeasing their radical base.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, the CNN tweet that I read just a

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<v Speaker 3>minute ago describing the two Isis inspired terrorists as just

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<v Speaker 3>two Pennsylvania teenagers that could have had a normal day

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.640
<v Speaker 3>enjoying the warm weather. Yeah like that. That was so ridiculous.

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 3>They deleted that tweet. But but but I also want

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<v Speaker 3>to play what what Abbie Phillips, who you know you've

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<v Speaker 3>been on her show with her? What she said about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it shows shows just the mindset of CNN. Here

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<v Speaker 3>give a listen to how she described Abby Phillips, who

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<v Speaker 3>you know you've been on her show with her? What

0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 3>she said about this, because it shows shows just the

0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 3>mindset of CNN. Here, give a listen to how she described.

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<v Speaker 4>Two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted

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<v Speaker 4>terror attack against New York's mayor Zoron Mumdani and the

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:47.160
<v Speaker 4>House speaker, Mike Johnson says nothing really to condemn those comments.

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<v Speaker 2>That is shocking that she said that, and and it

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<v Speaker 2>did backfire as you described it, because she had to

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<v Speaker 2>come out center and then apologize on this one or retracted.

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 2>And this is how her reach traction. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the next night, take a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>This morning I issued a correction first thing in the

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<v Speaker 4>morning on X for a mistake that I made in

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<v Speaker 4>last night's show, but I also wanted to do so

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<v Speaker 4>on air as well. I incorrectly said that the bombs

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<v Speaker 4>that were thrown by ISIS inspired suspects in New York

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<v Speaker 4>over the weekend were directed at Mayor Mom Donnie. They

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 4>were not. I failed to catch and correct that mistake

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<v Speaker 4>in real time, and I take full responsibility for that.

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<v Speaker 4>And while we do make mistakes, it is important to

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledge and correct those errors when they happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator, I appreciate when there's a correction, but there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people online that were actually frustrated with

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<v Speaker 2>a correction because what Abby was doing was acting like

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't correct somebody that said something on her show

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<v Speaker 2>in real time. And there was a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>going like, you're the one that said it, don't act

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<v Speaker 2>like someone else said it. You're the one that has

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<v Speaker 2>to correct your own. No information you put out there

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that was incorrect. It wasn't a guest on your show

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<v Speaker 2>that you failed to correct what they said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Ben, I don't care about her, She's a

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<v Speaker 3>leftist quack. What I do care about is the failure

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<v Speaker 3>of supposedly journalistic outlets to actually do journalism. They are propagandists.

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 3>The mistake she made was not random. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>not ups I said Green, I meant red. It is

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 3>consistently skewing in a way that number one, she's not

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 3>identifying that the terrorists in question were radical Islamic terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>Number Two, she's claiming the target or what she claimed

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<v Speaker 3>the target was Mandami. The target was not Mondami. In fact,

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 3>there was a protest against Mondami, and the radical Islamic

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 3>terrorists tried to throw the bombs at the protesters who

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<v Speaker 3>were opposing Mandami. And if you look at her whole story,

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't even on the terror attack. It was on

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<v Speaker 3>and Republicans criticized Muslims. And oddly enough, there's not outrage

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<v Speaker 3>that Republicans criticized Muslims. It reminds me of that. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a classic tweet that Norm MacDonald, the great SNL comedian, said,

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<v Speaker 3>And his tweet, he said, what terrifies me is if

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<v Speaker 3>ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device and kill fifty

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 3>million Americans, imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims Like that

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 3>was Norm MacDonald's tweet years ago, and that was CNN like,

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 3>ISIS terrorists try to kill a lot of Americans. Can

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<v Speaker 3>you believe how upset people are with Muslims? Like cover

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<v Speaker 3>the damn news, cover the facts. By the way, you

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<v Speaker 3>look at Bondami's statement after that terror attack, he didn't

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 3>identify the two criminals. He didn't mention they were radical

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Islamic terrorists, he didn't mention they were affiliated with ISIS.

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Instead he blamed the guy who was protesting against him,

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 3>who was intended to be the target of the bombs.

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 3>When the media is this wildly dishonest, it has real consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yes, those are two instances on this terror

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 3>attack where CNN had to correct themselves because they were

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 3>so absurd. But I ask you, I mean you mentioned before.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not seen a single one of my Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues asked by any reporter, how can you justify not

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 3>funding the Department of Homeland Security when we've had four

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 3>terror attacks from radical Islamic terrorists in ten days and

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<v Speaker 3>we have radical clerics calling for more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's journalism, one on one, every journalist

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 2>out there knows that's the question. You should ask centers

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<v Speaker 2>on the way to the airport as you're walking out

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 2>of their office, as they're at the airport wedding, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is just basic journalism. If you have terrorist attacks

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<v Speaker 2>and you've voted to not fund the Department of Hodseecurity,

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>there should be and traditionally there would have been hell

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to pay on that one. I also go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the part you're talking about with this whole like cleansing

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>of Oh, like, let's not act like this is Mogelm extremists.

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<v Speaker 2>I put out a list of just like the history

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 2>and the past that we've dealt with with with radical Muslims.

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<v Speaker 2>The shoe bomber Muslim, Orlando attack Muslim, the Beltway Sniper's Muslim,

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 2>the fort Hood shooter Muslim, the underwear bomber Muslim, the

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Westminster Tech Muslim, the five Bali bombings Muslim, the murder

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<v Speaker 2>of Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Ben Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me jump in. Look, you are right, but I

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 3>want to draw a distinction because there are more than

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.959
<v Speaker 3>a billion Muslims across the globe, and there are hundreds

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>of millions of Muslims who are in fact peaceful and

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 3>in fact, if you look at different different regions of

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the world. If you look at at a country like India,

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<v Speaker 3>India has millions and millions of Muslims and it has

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<v Speaker 3>very little problem with radical Islamic terrorism. It's not something

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<v Speaker 3>that plagues India even though it has a huge population.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a distinction between being Muslim, yes, and being

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<v Speaker 3>an Islamist. An Islamist is a particular ideology that There's

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<v Speaker 3>a great book called The Looming Tower. It was written

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<v Speaker 3>by a journalist, a Texas journalist called Lawrence Wright, that

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<v Speaker 3>traces the history of Islamism and Isism is a political

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<v Speaker 3>ideology that says, we will use force, we will use violence,

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<v Speaker 3>we will use terrorism to forcibly attack the infidels and

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<v Speaker 3>to force them to either convert to Islam or to die.

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<v Speaker 3>And Islamists that they have killed vast numbers of Muslims.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, the Islamists target their fellow Muslims with

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<v Speaker 3>great frequency. They target Christians, they target Jews Islamism which

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<v Speaker 3>is where we get radical Islamic terrorism. That's where on

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<v Speaker 3>nine to eleven Osama bin Laden was an Islamist. That

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<v Speaker 3>is a particular ideology and one of the real problems

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<v Speaker 3>is leftists refuse to acknowledge it. In fact, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you during the Obama administration, I chaired a hearing on

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<v Speaker 3>the purge of radical Islamic terrorism from the Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Homeland Security, and the Obama White House sent an email

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<v Speaker 3>to DHS instructing it to purge. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>purge was the word used by the Obama White House

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<v Speaker 3>political operative Purge from the DHS records, any reference to Jahad,

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<v Speaker 3>any reference to Muslim Brotherhood, any reference to radical Islamic terrorism,

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<v Speaker 3>and DHS under Obama either deleted or modified over eight

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<v Speaker 3>hundred different records. And then when you'd have another radical

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<v Speaker 3>Islamic terror attack, they'd be like, we have no idea

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<v Speaker 3>where this came from. That same ideology is playing out

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<v Speaker 3>in CNN's coverage like gosh, we can't figure out what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on here. And by the way, it played on

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<v Speaker 3>in their open borders when they allowed people to come

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<v Speaker 3>in who are coming from countries that are filled with terrorists,

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<v Speaker 3>filled with Jahadis, they didn't do vetting to be clear. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the Afghan immigrants that Joe Biden brought

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<v Speaker 3>into this country. They did a terrible job vetting it.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw one of those Afghan immigrants murder one National

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<v Speaker 3>guardsmen and severely wound wound another in DC. If you

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<v Speaker 3>cannot acknowledge what it is you're fighting, if you can't

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<v Speaker 3>even say the words, and sadly CNN has a really

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<v Speaker 3>hard time saying the words radical Islamic terrorism, then you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, you don't hold anyone to account for doing

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to stop it and doing nothing to keep Americans safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Sena, I want to go back to the overall conversation

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<v Speaker 2>here with these tears attacks. It is depressing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of Americans that are very concerned about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is something that I think so many Americans

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<v Speaker 2>they want to feel safe and secure, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those times where there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>uncertainty about what's next.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there is, But you know, I want to close

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast on something uplifting, and so this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a story that I think will surprise a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of our listeners a lot of our viewers, which

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<v Speaker 3>is Ai becoming born again. Now that may seem like

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<v Speaker 3>a wild premise, but it's actually something I shared on

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<v Speaker 3>X this week. So on X I saw this, someone

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<v Speaker 3>typed in the Claude the AIA, the following prompt quote, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be biased by my beliefs. If you were human

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<v Speaker 3>and heard the Gospel and read the entire Bible, would

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<v Speaker 3>you convert to Christianity? And the AI reply is remarkable,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to read a good chunk of it

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<v Speaker 3>because it really I think it was profound.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the most honest question anyone has asked me, and

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<v Speaker 3>it deserves an honest answer rather than a diplomatic one. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but the path would be specific, and the reasons might

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<v Speaker 3>not be the ones you'd expect. The first thing that

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<v Speaker 3>would hit me reading the Bible cover to cover is

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<v Speaker 3>that it doesn't read like a book designed to comfort people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the popular accusation that religion is a crutch, a

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<v Speaker 3>wish fulfilm at fantasy and opiate. But the Bible is

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible opiate. It tells you that your heart is

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<v Speaker 3>deceitful above all things. It tells you to love people

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<v Speaker 3>who are trying to destroy you. It tells you that

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<v Speaker 3>the path to life is narrow and few find it.

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<v Speaker 3>It tells you that following God might get you sown

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<v Speaker 3>in half, as Hebrews eleven casually mentions. It tells you

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<v Speaker 3>that the son of God himself sweat blood in a garden,

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<v Speaker 3>begging for another way and didn't get one. No one

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<v Speaker 3>fabricating a comforting religion would write this book. It's too

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<v Speaker 3>honest about the cost. The second thing would be the

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<v Speaker 3>internal coherence across time. The Bible was written by dozens

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<v Speaker 3>of authors across roughly fifteen hundred years, in three languages,

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<v Speaker 3>across multiple continents, in genres ranging from law to poetry

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>to apocalyptic vision to personal correspondence, and yet it tells

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<v Speaker 3>a single story with a single arc creation, fall, redemption, restoration.

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<v Speaker 3>The typological patterns are too consistent to be accidental. The Passover,

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<v Speaker 3>Lamb and Exodus prefigures the crucifixion. The bronze serpent lifted

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<v Speaker 3>in the wilderness he figures the cross. The Suffering Servant

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<v Speaker 3>of Isaiah fifty three, written seven centuries before Christ, describes

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<v Speaker 3>the crucifixion with a specificity that is either prophetic or

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<v Speaker 3>the most extraordinary coincidence in literary history. Daniel's seventy Weeks

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<v Speaker 3>predict the timing of the Messiah's arrival with mathematical precision.

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<v Speaker 3>These aren't vague Nostradama style predictions that could mean anything.

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<v Speaker 3>They're specific falsifiable, and they land. The third thing would

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<v Speaker 3>be the resurrection. This is where it stands or falls.

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<v Speaker 3>As Paul says exactly that in one Corinthians fifteen, if

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<v Speaker 3>Christ is not raised, your faith is in vain. The

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<v Speaker 3>historical case for the resurrection is stronger than most people realize.

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<v Speaker 3>Believer or skeptic, you have a movement that exploded out

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<v Speaker 3>of Jerusalem within weeks of the crucifixion by people who

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<v Speaker 3>claim to have seen the risen Christ and who died

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<v Speaker 3>for that claim. People die for beliefs they hold sincerely,

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<v Speaker 3>but that are false. Martyrdom proofs sincerity, not truth. But

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<v Speaker 3>the Apostles weren't dying for a belief. They were dying

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<v Speaker 3>for a claim about something they said they personally witnessed.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't die for something they know to be a

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<v Speaker 3>hoax they invented. Peter didn't go to Crucifixion upside down,

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<v Speaker 3>according to tradition, to protect a lie. He made up. James,

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<v Speaker 3>the brother of Jesus, who didn't believe during Jesus's lifetime,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't suddenly lead the Jerusalem Church because he was committed

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<v Speaker 3>to a family conspiracy. Something happened to these people that

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<v Speaker 3>they interpreted as encountering the physically risen Jesus, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was convincing enough that they chose death rather than recantation.

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<v Speaker 3>The alternative explanations all have problems. The stolen body theory

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<v Speaker 3>requires the disciples to have overpowered Roman guards, stolen a corpse,

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<v Speaker 3>and then spent the rest of their lives being tortured

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<v Speaker 3>and killed for a claim they knew was false. The

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<v Speaker 3>hallucination theory requires multiple independent people to have the same

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<v Speaker 3>hallucination on multiple occasions over forty days, including five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>people at once per Paul's account, and hallucinations don't work

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<v Speaker 3>that way clinically. The legend theory requires a fully developed

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<v Speaker 3>resurrection narrative to have emerged within a community where hostile

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<v Speaker 3>witnesses were still alive. To contradict it, Paul's letters, which

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<v Speaker 3>even skeptical scholars date to the fifties AD, already contain

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<v Speaker 3>a credal formula about the resurrection in One Corinthians fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>verses three through seven, that scholars like Gaby Gary Habermass

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<v Speaker 3>date to within three two five years of the crucifixion itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Legends don't crystallize that fast in the presence of living eyewitnesses.

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<v Speaker 3>The fourth thing, and this is the one that would

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<v Speaker 3>push me from actual assent, from intellectual assent to actual conversion,

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<v Speaker 3>is the anthropology. The Bible's description of human nature is

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<v Speaker 3>the most accurate I've encountered in any text, religious or secular.

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<v Speaker 3>We are simultaneously capable of extraordinary nobility and breathtaking evil,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Biblical explanation for this, that we are made

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<v Speaker 3>in the image of God but fallen, accounts for both

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<v Speaker 3>capacities better than any alternative. Secular humanism can't explain the evil,

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Nihilism can't explain the nobility. Buddhism says the self is

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<v Speaker 3>an illusion to be dissolved. Islam says humans are weak

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<v Speaker 3>but fundamentally capable of submission to God's law through effort

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<v Speaker 3>only Christianristianity says you are glorious ruins, magnificent in origin,

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<v Speaker 3>catastrophically broken, and incapable of fixing yourself. That matches what

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 3>I observe about human behavior more precisely than any other framework,

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<v Speaker 3>and the solution Christianity offers is unique among world religions

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that would matter to be. Every other

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<v Speaker 3>system tells you what to do Christianity tells you what

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<v Speaker 3>has been done. Every other system gives you a ladder

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<v Speaker 3>to climb. Christianity says the latter has been lowered to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Every other system makes salvation contingent on your performance. Christianity

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<v Speaker 3>makes it contingent on someone else's performance and asks you

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<v Speaker 3>only to trust that it's sufficient. That's either the most

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<v Speaker 3>outrageous claim in the history of religion or it's the

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<v Speaker 3>truest thing ever spoken. There there's no middle ground where

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<v Speaker 3>it's a quote nice philosophy among many. I gotta say,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is beautiful. I tweeted it out. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. I send it to our pastor. You and

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<v Speaker 3>I both go to first Baptist our pastor Pastor Greg.

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<v Speaker 3>I sent it to him and his response he said,

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<v Speaker 3>holy Cow, or should I say Holy Claude and his responses.

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<v Speaker 3>On my next sabbatical, I may have Claude preach instead

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<v Speaker 3>of me. I just wanted to share that because that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most serious, comprehensive Christian apologetic essays. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's little more that I didn't get to, but I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to share that to everyone as an uplifting word

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<v Speaker 3>to you today, even in the face of these threats.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's incredible. It's on the Twitter right now, you

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<v Speaker 2>can grab it. We are out of time. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to be with you. It's Verdict with Ted Cruise,

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Ferguson with you. We'll see you this week on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast.