Speaker 1: He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast man.
Speaker 2: He's a legendary Queens rapper.
Speaker 1: He's agreed that your boy in O.
Speaker 2: R E D's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as.
Speaker 3: DJ E f N. Together they drink it up with
Speaker 3: some of the biggest players, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one
Speaker 2: source for drunk drinks.
Speaker 1: Chants most squavery days.
Speaker 3: New Year's c that's it's time for drink champs.
Speaker 2: Drink up, motherfucker? Would it good be?
Speaker 4: Hopefully its what it should be. It's your boy and
Speaker 4: R E.
Speaker 3: What up?
Speaker 1: It is DJ E f N And this is middle
Speaker 1: Tammo Crazy Walk. Yeah yeah, drink chests. This brother right
Speaker 1: here is a legend.
Speaker 4: He's an icon.
Speaker 1: He got thirty six albums be working. I think you
Speaker 1: got one hundred albums, thirty six albums that came out.
Speaker 1: He's a West Coast legend, legend or overall a hip
Speaker 1: hop veteran. And today we're gonna give him his flowers.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure that he knows how much he
Speaker 1: means to the game, and we're gonna celebrate him today.
Speaker 1: So in case you don't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Only I think that's amazing. You've really got thirty six albums.
Speaker 3: Bro, I don't know if I got that. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: counted it. We counted him, be counted it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know what the fun I was doing. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: just I just created. So I never kept count I
Speaker 3: figured i'd be done signed for five. I thought i'd
Speaker 3: be out by four, right, and you just dropped a
Speaker 3: new album, yes, Celepardies Face Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: How what is the difference from coming out of ninety
Speaker 1: six to coming out now?
Speaker 3: Uh, let's a good question. I would say a lot
Speaker 3: more saturated. Okay, you know, it's just a lot more output.
Speaker 3: I remember knowing, like going to the record store and
Speaker 3: knowing what depth Jam had, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: what Tommy Boy had. And now it's kind of like
Speaker 3: everybody's varying for attention. So I kind of looked at
Speaker 3: it like times square. It's a million billboards, so you
Speaker 3: got to focus attention. So now just you got to
Speaker 3: make it because you love it, try your best to
Speaker 3: promote it and hope you know somebody listens. You ever
Speaker 3: thought you would do it as long? Fuck? No? Sometimes,
Speaker 3: like why do you, but you know what it was.
Speaker 3: I thought, like I said, like, I thought I'd be
Speaker 3: done by four life keep lifing, so you just end
Speaker 3: up having shit to talk about. Now, Okay, so now.
Speaker 1: The Golden State Warriors, Yes, it actually did sue you guys,
Speaker 1: yeah for what it really did because yeah, at that time,
Speaker 1: you guys were selling an imprint.
Speaker 3: Well we named ourselves and I guess, uh, you got
Speaker 3: on the radar. So exhibit you know, the Restless album
Speaker 3: went platinum and then all of a sudden they cared
Speaker 3: like you are not the Golden State Warriors. It's like
Speaker 3: what we spelled it differently, is like we didn't don't care.
Speaker 4: They don't care.
Speaker 3: McDonald Yeah, we couldn't be McDonald's trying. Wow, holy ship resting,
Speaker 3: piece of fear this somewhere. No, we did. We did
Speaker 3: like five records and I'm also be Robbie, honest my
Speaker 3: record it wasn't Capital at the time. I think it
Speaker 3: was transitioning Priority record. They just got a little greedy man.
Speaker 3: They fucked that deal off. So I'm always the one
Speaker 3: that like, because everybody had different deals. Exhibbit was that
Speaker 3: loud I was at Priority, Sofia was at Quincy Jones label.
Speaker 4: I forgot the name of Quest.
Speaker 3: He was signed the Quest and when X popped, the
Speaker 3: bean counter start coming out. That's not a racist thing,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you. But now they started counting the money,
Speaker 3: the counting of the money. People, the attorneys in the
Speaker 3: suits started asking for a whole bunch of shit, and
Speaker 3: they like held up. But we had a million dollar
Speaker 3: deal on the table, and they like dragged it out
Speaker 3: for like a year, which was really when I started
Speaker 3: flipping out, where I was just like like maybe this
Speaker 3: ain't then making mistakes where it kind of seemed like
Speaker 3: they was sabotaging and drave beats and all that. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. We had his relationships, my relationships,
Speaker 3: and Safir, So you know, theoretically we would have had
Speaker 3: e forty and two short with all the base shit right,
Speaker 3: and then we would have had my relationships, which I
Speaker 3: got Riza and blah blah blah blah blah and Premiere,
Speaker 3: and so we were gonna kind of do one of
Speaker 3: those like voltes trying it up and make this crazy
Speaker 3: different kind of record.
Speaker 5: You don't think you could put that record out today,
Speaker 5: Like I would have to say that all these people
Speaker 5: are doing these.
Speaker 2: Records with artists that aren't around anymore and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Sofia is gone. So like I'm but have had all
Speaker 3: the have got the you know, you know, have got
Speaker 3: all them files he had, he had the rials.
Speaker 4: We only had what Sofia had.
Speaker 3: If somebody supposedly had a hope, like a whole Sefia
Speaker 3: album that never came out, and we were we had
Speaker 3: disgusted me and X and uh and his brother Sonny
Speaker 3: chop Black, but we couldn't get because I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: ai my brother's votes, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: if we can't get severiir vocals, we can't do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I would love to. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean we can repect it. I kind of was
Speaker 3: suggesting that, like why don't we just take old vocals
Speaker 3: and hooks and build it? But I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe we will if the technology gets good enough for
Speaker 3: that producer dude that's out there talking to you, whoever
Speaker 3: you are, get us, because think about it, back then,
Speaker 3: everybody was doing three verses, so ship you give us
Speaker 3: one song and we got three songs, so yeah, give
Speaker 3: us three writers and let us was that recorded digitally
Speaker 3: or back then.
Speaker 4: We were do I think we were a little bit
Speaker 4: of both.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think pro tools existed when we were yeah,
Speaker 3: because we're talking about like two thousand and one, Okay,
Speaker 3: probably two thousand and two, so it was just that transition.
Speaker 3: We still had the two inch reells, but I think
Speaker 3: we were starting to add it in pro tools.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we still because we was over there
Speaker 3: with Drake, so you know, he had the best of
Speaker 3: both for us.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite album you made or is it like
Speaker 1: your kids? You can't pick your favorite kids.
Speaker 3: Always, you know what I don't like? I make them
Speaker 3: and then I like, I don't listen to them, and
Speaker 3: then I forget them. What kind of that sounds like
Speaker 3: a dream Champs episode? I mean way later because I
Speaker 3: don't want to get uh, you know, like super wrapped
Speaker 3: up in one thing.
Speaker 4: I'm always trying to like grow.
Speaker 3: Really, Leparty's Face for me is solo nights to to
Speaker 3: a certain degree.
Speaker 4: It's like I told you so is what it is.
Speaker 4: But I don't have a favorite.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I listen to shit, like the Homie was playing
Speaker 3: one of my projects and I was just like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: because now if I ain't listening in a couple of
Speaker 3: years or ten years. I'm not that person. I'm just
Speaker 3: kind of listening to some dude saying some shit that
Speaker 3: I can relate to. So I kind of enjoy that
Speaker 3: part of it. So I like every record separately for
Speaker 3: different reasons when I listen to them.
Speaker 1: Do you think putting out music but with the end
Speaker 1: ofnet and like, you know, being able to download, you
Speaker 1: think that they say harder for the artists or is
Speaker 1: it easier because it's more.
Speaker 4: Access it's all tools, you know, I think.
Speaker 3: It invites people to diminish the work that it takes
Speaker 3: to make one song, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 3: they can get it so easily, or you know, they
Speaker 3: can stream it for free here, or you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Ten ninety ninety you got the library of everything.
Speaker 3: But then on the other side, I would rather hear
Speaker 3: it than not hear it. So I just look at
Speaker 3: the tool for what it is, appreciate it and try
Speaker 3: to you know, nowadays, you know we already know you
Speaker 3: got to monetize it. In other ways, you may not
Speaker 3: be able to monetize it on the creation of the music.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could sell the merch. Maybe you can platform it,
Speaker 3: which we always do. You got to platform this shit
Speaker 3: and the other shit. Most people don't get rich being
Speaker 3: a rapper, you know what I'm saying. You know what's funny.
Speaker 1: I remember having to drop a record and like for
Speaker 1: me to get that record to London, I had to
Speaker 1: physically go to London, right, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: to go to see how Tim west Wood to see it,
Speaker 1: and like I'll never gonna like pict it. This gaming
Speaker 1: to be like that, like where you could just press
Speaker 1: one button button.
Speaker 3: And all over right, even recording, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: just I never thought I could do a song with somebody,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, New York and without being
Speaker 3: in New York. Yeah, because they had to ship the
Speaker 3: ricks all that ship the two inch.
Speaker 5: Will And what about now seeing your kids all right,
Speaker 5: they're doing man, I'm.
Speaker 3: You know, like I always just say, I'm happy, you
Speaker 3: know that they found something they love and that that
Speaker 3: thing they love is giving them the opportunity of fair shot.
Speaker 3: So probably about it. What would it happened if they
Speaker 3: were whack drink?
Speaker 2: Can we get them a drink?
Speaker 1: They would have just been whacked because you you you
Speaker 1: are don't for being one of the best limits. I
Speaker 1: imagine that, like.
Speaker 3: Because I heard it at first, you said you told
Speaker 3: them nowhere first to tell them that, And one thing,
Speaker 3: like I want them to tell their own story, so
Speaker 3: like you know for sure that's their narrative. They've really
Speaker 3: created a so so I'm going to let them speak
Speaker 3: on it. But in general, if they were whack, right,
Speaker 3: they would just be whack. There's other Look, Jordan's sons
Speaker 3: are not doing Jordan's thinking. So that's you know, my
Speaker 3: my I don't know. I'm trying to give a good example.
Speaker 3: What yeah, whatever, my father can swim good.
Speaker 4: That's a lot. But I'm just making up ship.
Speaker 3: But the point is if I could not be able
Speaker 3: to I might not able to swim because everything ain't
Speaker 3: biological and everything.
Speaker 4: You know, some ship. You just got to work that
Speaker 4: on your own. You may you know, uh, did I
Speaker 4: say I was drinking?
Speaker 3: You did? Yes? I know I did. You know?
Speaker 1: You know why because that's what we too, were reanalyzed,
Speaker 1: how the uh the show was going to go by
Speaker 1: what you're drinking?
Speaker 4: We know to kill it works every time. Likes just
Speaker 4: to kill you.
Speaker 3: Jamie, Okay, Yeah, that's Jaison so I seek you.
Speaker 4: I was just straight up to.
Speaker 3: How did you become a whiskey guy? Yea, yea Yeady
Speaker 3: did it? First of all, I got to represent the West,
Speaker 3: so we all started with the bullshit.
Speaker 4: We started with bumpy Face.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is. You don't remember
Speaker 3: bumpy face. You were you were you, you were being
Speaker 3: a good.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Bumpy face was the GM and it was what the
Speaker 3: bottle was, bop like, so we would we did that.
Speaker 3: But we're talking about kids ship Sloop alludes to it
Speaker 3: Jenny juice, so that's when you're like your kids. And
Speaker 3: we would drink that and then you hang hungover, and
Speaker 3: then we would drink uh.
Speaker 4: Fucking it was.
Speaker 3: It was cheap ass, like night train and you put
Speaker 3: kool aid in. So we did that, and basically then
Speaker 3: it was Hennessy once we finally got some money. I
Speaker 3: remember whining, oh ga, need some Hennessy. You drink Cisco.
Speaker 4: Of course I drank at all. I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: It was amazing for U when we were a kid, but.
Speaker 3: Not oh yeah, never now liquid crack yeah. And then
Speaker 3: and then uh, we went to the Hennessy phase. Hennessy.
Speaker 3: I call it jail juice. So I looked up and thought,
Speaker 3: every time look at me, juice, you think everybody was
Speaker 3: looking at you while you're looking at me. I just
Speaker 3: knew I ended up in jail every time. I know,
Speaker 3: every time I ended up in jail there was some
Speaker 3: Hennessy involved. So that I was like, I can't do
Speaker 3: that no more. Went through my vodka phase and then
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I was somewhere. I was at a bar
Speaker 3: with like some of it was a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: fucking uh Wall Street dudes, and the Wall Street dude
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, that's the money drinks, and I was like, oh, really,
Speaker 3: fuck it. Okay, yeah, drink ivery smoke Jamaican. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: We'll go through a couple of these albums and tell
Speaker 1: me what you what you think of when you hear it?
Speaker 3: Okay, sol on Ice truer now than it was then? Really? Absolutely? Wow.
Speaker 4: You think tom sais not got better?
Speaker 3: It's worse.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is worse.
Speaker 2: It is it worse.
Speaker 4: Sol on Ice is trure now.
Speaker 3: I think the things I'm dealing with, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying that I'm talking about social political you know,
Speaker 3: overt racism, a country that won't own up to its lies,
Speaker 3: erasing history, literally taking people out of books and making
Speaker 3: it illegal, burning books and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always said that that like a ninety maybe
Speaker 2: ninety one to like ninety.
Speaker 5: Five hip hop lyricism was telling us everything that foreshadowed
Speaker 5: everything that happened today.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know the saying, I mean, smarter
Speaker 3: people than than I have said, Like, you know, what
Speaker 3: is it If you don't learn from history, you're doing
Speaker 3: the repeat it. If you keep fucking the same girl
Speaker 3: that keeps giving you crabs, you're gonna get crabb the dragon, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, logic prevails. So, yeah, we haven't
Speaker 3: learned from our past mistakes. And then we get on
Speaker 3: some we like to fucking escape. We like to escapism music,
Speaker 3: We like to do escapism ship. So we are we're
Speaker 3: doing to repeat it. And then again, America likes to
Speaker 3: fucking say that never happened. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: never happened. We didn't do anything to you guys. You
Speaker 3: guys are just tripping.
Speaker 6: Right, Okay, blasphemy, blasphemy, ooh, hypocrisy.
Speaker 3: The only reason why is because the album was actually
Speaker 3: called I Really let that album. My home boy Curtis
Speaker 3: Daniel would say, uh, his favorite produced abum, so you know,
Speaker 3: shouts out to Apollo Brown. But the name of the
Speaker 3: album was really called I came up with that title
Speaker 3: when I was in prison, but that wasn't the title.
Speaker 3: The title was called how to Kill God. That was
Speaker 3: the name of the album. That album was called, right,
Speaker 3: real controversial, Yes it is because guess what, it's not
Speaker 3: a how to manual, nigga. I'm just staying like so
Speaker 3: the metaphor was right, yeah, Now that the metaphor was
Speaker 3: how do you kill God? Well, God is love, right,
Speaker 3: God created everything. So if you go kick a fucking cat,
Speaker 3: you killing God. You know you're hurting God. You know
Speaker 3: something that God created one of God's creations. So how
Speaker 3: to kill God is being a dick, being fucked up,
Speaker 3: being a sexist, being a racist, being a bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 3: All that ship is how to kill God. So when
Speaker 3: I did it, ironic parties, I didn't say how to
Speaker 3: kill Allah or how to kill Buddha all the shit
Speaker 3: because America. And that's why I said this hypocrisy is
Speaker 3: if I would have said how to kill Allah, how
Speaker 3: to kill Buddha how to kill yahweh Apple and iTunes
Speaker 3: would have said cool. Spotify would have said cool because
Speaker 3: they identify that with European God. That's why they said no,
Speaker 3: it's like absolutely not. So then we called it blasphemy
Speaker 3: because they're being blasphemous. So that's what I think of.
Speaker 4: Okay, eat or.
Speaker 3: Die, That's what I'm on the run. So that's when
Speaker 3: I realized this company is against me and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to sink or swim. So yeah, I just think
Speaker 3: of like fucking, my back was against the wall. I
Speaker 3: was upset, I was mad, and fuck it, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to eat or I'm gonna die.
Speaker 5: I got to figure this shit out, and we got
Speaker 5: to go back because I know you've talked about it
Speaker 5: in length.
Speaker 2: Just for the sake of the show, I want you
Speaker 2: to go back later on and okay.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay sold on Ice two. Hmm.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was slept I mean, well I
Speaker 3: always get slept on. I think it was just a
Speaker 3: great follow up, and I wasn't trying to make a
Speaker 3: so on nice too, I'm trying to throw off. I
Speaker 3: was trying to make something else, which is normally how
Speaker 3: these records happen, and then I just felt like five
Speaker 3: records in, I was like, I'm making something that is
Speaker 3: an extension of the first one. So I feel like
Speaker 3: I did that and what it was that like whatever
Speaker 3: our twenty twenty three solo nice updated production wise or whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 3: okay Adidas All day I dream about spitting my only
Speaker 3: double album, shouts out to Rathmatic.
Speaker 4: And what do I think about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel like it was my only double album,
Speaker 3: which I never felt like. I don't be having a
Speaker 3: bandwidth for that shit. So I don't know who listened
Speaker 3: to it, because there's a lot of listening.
Speaker 1: How did Adta This Night not get at you? If
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors got you?
Speaker 3: Well, they always say if somebody contacts you, did you
Speaker 3: already did your job?
Speaker 4: That means I didn't do my job. Is like I
Speaker 4: fucked this guy.
Speaker 3: Before Killer Mike's Adidas. I think, so yeah, I believe
Speaker 3: so yeah. If they don't hit you here, I'll give
Speaker 3: you a prime example and I get to flex a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 4: That's a good flex.
Speaker 3: So when I'm working on this album, Ra Assassination, I'm
Speaker 3: with Drey and I play my intro the whole intro
Speaker 3: is kind of basically what we're in. Like there's this
Speaker 3: dude that's kind of like a fascist dictator and there's
Speaker 3: no dogs or niggers allowed and not of that, and
Speaker 3: we're operation. We got to get rid of this fascist
Speaker 3: ruler of America, right right, And but before that's arts
Speaker 3: and uses, uh, because you remember the VHS tapes and
Speaker 3: it would be like now our future presentation. So I
Speaker 3: play it for dre Now we thought all the sonics on.
Speaker 3: It goes boom, our future presentation. My record comes out crickets.
Speaker 3: He uses the THHX sound, but that ship goes diamond.
Speaker 3: Niggas came a knocking. So the whole point is, I'd
Speaker 3: rather ask for forgiveness than permission. You just do this
Speaker 3: ship if it popping, and then come get out, you know,
Speaker 3: get your money.
Speaker 4: I'm never mad at that.
Speaker 3: They can't backfire sometimes well no, I've never really watched
Speaker 3: the backfire.
Speaker 2: I'll give you very much.
Speaker 3: But he made the money already. In the long run,
Speaker 3: it didn't work out. It works. What's his name did
Speaker 3: a masterpiece? Son suffered with the sample stuff, but the
Speaker 3: record sold already. You can't tell a nigga he can't
Speaker 3: perform the records. You just say, I want all the publishings.
Speaker 3: What this is a little Romeo. I'm telling you master
Speaker 3: P did it. I watched it in real time. I
Speaker 3: watched master P. There was three little's back then litl
Speaker 3: bow Wow, all these little lass niggas, Little bow Wow,
Speaker 3: little Romeo, Lisanne. Before the onset of the youngs and
Speaker 3: the babies, niggas was little first, then they became young
Speaker 3: nigga baby. Now niggas gonna be zygo wherever the fuck.
Speaker 3: So little uh uh I remember uh Romeo pops whose
Speaker 3: master P because tours on my label was on Priority Records.
Speaker 3: So Lizaye just came off to one twelve record on
Speaker 3: the boat. You know what I'm saying. Platinum, Little bow
Speaker 3: Wow's with Jermaine dupri and Romeo. They master Pe wants
Speaker 3: to sample them. Jackson Record, Priorty Records. The being counters
Speaker 3: the execs is like never in life. He like, fuck you,
Speaker 3: he got his own money. Shoot, well yeah, that's who
Speaker 3: had to deal with it. But they're still the execs.
Speaker 3: But he's like, I don't give a fuck. Masterpiece says
Speaker 3: I want to put my son out and it shoots
Speaker 3: the video puts out, manufacturers, whatever puts the record out.
Speaker 3: Randall Jackson say fuck you, I'm taking one hundred percent
Speaker 3: of that record. It don't matter the record goal. The
Speaker 3: son has a career, he's still too Menny Denny gets
Speaker 3: on the Disney Channel wherever the fuck it is. So
Speaker 3: I'd rather ask for forgivingess the permission. Motherfucker's going out
Speaker 3: tell you everything that can't go right until you just
Speaker 3: show them that it went right, and here's your bread.
Speaker 3: Fucking I'd rather pay a nigga off and let him
Speaker 3: get one hundred percent of Son than have one hundred
Speaker 3: percent or nothing. It's real. I still think it's a
Speaker 3: give and take. You don't want to giving me an example.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, think about some people inspired for you
Speaker 5: know what, fuck that I'm gonna take that ship.
Speaker 3: La Brandy scenario. Maybe not just music well yeah, baby
Speaker 3: with I mean it's certainly like I think like I
Speaker 3: forgot who it was. It was like one of the
Speaker 3: video games people where they're gonna shut you down immediately,
Speaker 3: But in this music.
Speaker 2: Ship, that's how it was.
Speaker 3: With the mix, that's what is.
Speaker 5: That's a mixyal, you can't do it whatever, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 3: But it's too late. You can't put the pace back
Speaker 3: into tube. Bro, get that ship out there if it's
Speaker 3: fires fired, and then lie say, you know what, I
Speaker 3: didn't do it that part.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it true? You and David Banner used to be broommates? Yes?
Speaker 4: How the hell does this house work? How do work?
Speaker 3: Man? I love Banner?
Speaker 8: Bro?
Speaker 3: So this is.
Speaker 2: This crooked lettuce Banner lost the deal.
Speaker 3: This is right after crooked letters. Wow, matter were you
Speaker 3: using on the record? I was on the record. Yeah, yeah, Bro?
Speaker 3: What was the firewater? Right water? Yeah? So the single
Speaker 3: pobs whatever, whatever, the label doesn't feel like the album whatever.
Speaker 4: He lost the deal.
Speaker 3: Little dude me. I got to get a fabulo ship.
Speaker 3: I got to d record. They fumbled the whole record.
Speaker 3: The money's running out, you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be broke in LA, because then they're
Speaker 3: gonna say I smoke crack. If you see a broke nigga,
Speaker 3: you know that you saw TV and you don't see
Speaker 3: him looking okay, he's smoked out.
Speaker 4: You know I'm saying, that's the assumption.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, fuck it, what this is? This is motivation.
Speaker 3: I know I do. I think like an awful, stupid person,
Speaker 3: but I'm just telling you my truth. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to go to Atlanta because there's some people
Speaker 3: I was upset with. So I'm like, where else can
Speaker 3: I go? And this you got to remember this a
Speaker 3: little bit pre internet. So I go, I call Wendy,
Speaker 3: Wendy Day, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to Wendy,
Speaker 3: and Wendy's like, well, got you. You can come over
Speaker 3: here and you know, figure it out. I'm like, fuck, rap,
Speaker 3: I don't want to rap, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was fucked.
Speaker 3: My whole career up, doomed, and uh when I get there,
Speaker 3: it's another nigga on another count. Shit it was banner.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah man, So we rocked out. Man. I
Speaker 3: actually have a videotape because I had a camcorder dating myself.
Speaker 3: And one day we went to the club because her
Speaker 3: roommates do all the dope parties in New York, like Life,
Speaker 3: all the fly shit. But one night we went to
Speaker 3: like Life or something like that, and then he didn't
Speaker 3: fill up for it, like he was just you know, depressed.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm say, niggas going through it like
Speaker 3: damn and maybe questioning, yeah, like maybe my career is over.
Speaker 3: And I remember I got back a couple of hours later.
Speaker 3: He was like sitting in the stairwell. He was like, man,
Speaker 3: I hope you're mind. I used the camera and shit.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, it's cool, bro. I went back
Speaker 3: and looked at it. He was like, Nigga, my shit
Speaker 3: fucked up, my career fucked up. But my name is
Speaker 3: David Banner. I'm gonna be somebody and the nigga did it.
Speaker 3: So it actually got that tape and I got to
Speaker 3: find it for him because it's inspiring to watch somebody
Speaker 3: tak lowis you know, be up. And then we did
Speaker 3: a record. We I mean we did a record. We
Speaker 3: got the studio and mob Deep was next door. Yeah York, Yeah,
Speaker 3: ok yeah, we stay in New York. Were staying on
Speaker 3: like thirty third and third okay building, we fly, well,
Speaker 3: we ain't fly. We did them flying. We niggas on
Speaker 3: the couch. We brother man from the second floor. Okay,
Speaker 3: flub or whatever it was, but uh they uh, they
Speaker 3: were next door working on I think it was murder
Speaker 3: music anyway. Anyway, I'm forgetting what year, but we're doing
Speaker 3: this record because I remember Pee and Halbits like whatever.
Speaker 3: They didn't know David. I introduced David. They was like,
Speaker 3: you know, niggas be nosy, walk in looking you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, that shit crazy, and
Speaker 3: they walk in and listen to ours. We was we
Speaker 3: had sampled uh entertain us. Here we go Nirvana, and
Speaker 3: I remember the niggas just looking like what the fuck.
Speaker 3: But then Banner ended up using it on the mixtape
Speaker 3: that popped him out, you know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 3: then well for him, I think the song was called
Speaker 3: spass Out. But you know we was, we was working
Speaker 3: man were it was crazy manco that was and I
Speaker 3: was out there acting. You would see me out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right, that's what I want.
Speaker 5: He sent me a record with him an absol though
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's put it out here, but
Speaker 5: he's always because it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who else said records?
Speaker 3: I got a record with a soul my mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shameless rast cast was its.
Speaker 3: Oh that was the reap uh Storm. I wanted to
Speaker 3: give him in trouble storing and manages blonde Yeah, or
Speaker 3: have it down, but he used to manage. Bob manages
Speaker 3: me too, and that was the first time for that project. Uh,
Speaker 3: somebody had got me a honeycake sock into my pocket.
Speaker 3: In my pocket, that was my first my honey all
Speaker 3: check outside of my record deal. So I always think
Speaker 3: of that like, thank you Storm, so salute the storm.
Speaker 3: Perfect management. The Yellow Snow EP, Oh, that's funny, that's
Speaker 3: my homeboy, Rubio. Uh Doc Hollywood was the name of
Speaker 3: the group.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The Yellow Snow EP was I like doing like what
Speaker 3: they call them ugly sweater Like I like taking holidays
Speaker 3: and flipping them upside down. So the Yellow Snow EP
Speaker 3: was me taking Christmas songs and like shipping on Christmas.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's not about p well.
Speaker 3: Yellow snow is t say yeah. Saying is don't eat
Speaker 3: the yellow snow. The yellow snow. It's the p yeah. God,
Speaker 3: it's like, don't eat the snow and Harlem like on there,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be some cracks in there.
Speaker 4: So what's bringing me to Christmas?
Speaker 3: Christian? Was that the same play on the holiday? Yeah, Christmass. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's just the extension. I took the Yellow Snow EP
Speaker 3: and just every couple of years I add a new
Speaker 3: song and I give it out around Christmas, so I
Speaker 3: just yeah, Chris mess in the s s. It's just
Speaker 3: it's the ugly sweater thing. It's just me taking Christmas.
Speaker 3: And I did like a drad Old song. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I just do. Who haven't I attacked yet?
Speaker 3: I have to do what? What's the what's the black one?
Speaker 3: Quansa quanta? I have to guy to do a quanza.
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't do that. I can out of this.
Speaker 3: I got to be messing with Christmas. I got to
Speaker 3: mess with everybody.
Speaker 4: Okay, Michaels, that's all right.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 4: What's your favorite erro of hip hop.
Speaker 3: Musically or just living? Either way, I would say music
Speaker 3: that ain't fair. It's always fire shit. But you know,
Speaker 3: before I got to deal with super Fun because I
Speaker 3: got to watch other people. I was a fly on
Speaker 3: the wall being around like Wino and Coolio and meeting
Speaker 3: you know, Premiere and you know, gang Starr and Mop
Speaker 3: and just you know what I'm saying, Bumpy, just whatever,
Speaker 3: just being that guy and then coincidentally meeting my peers.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know, the Warlocks going
Speaker 3: on to be the locks and so and so just
Speaker 3: meeting all these other dope people. That part of it
Speaker 3: was fun. I definitely have enjoyed even today. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I'm in a very small a
Speaker 3: group of people of what I think are like elading
Speaker 3: saves producers, you know what I'm saying, artists and a
Speaker 3: lot of us have encountered and kicked it and done
Speaker 3: ship and traveled the world together.
Speaker 4: So for me, that part is always fun.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of peaks and valleys and damn,
Speaker 3: probably way more values than anything. But this ship is fun. Man,
Speaker 3: for me, you still have fun doing it. I have
Speaker 3: a fucking blast. All I want is the same bag
Speaker 3: as the fun the bag. If I get the bag,
Speaker 3: I'm really out of here. Nigga, I will make nigga
Speaker 3: me and Blue used to say that of my little
Speaker 3: stupid cousin. Yeah, Davini, but yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The nigga I make fucking I make wood look look
Speaker 3: like gold. Nigga. Let me go, let me, let me
Speaker 3: get about three point five million, nigga, you will see
Speaker 3: a nigga take over the planet. Right.
Speaker 5: Speaking of Blue Da Vinci, were you like What was
Speaker 5: your interaction with that BMS movement?
Speaker 4: Uh shit, I was there from the on set.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 4: First of all, be as frank as I can.
Speaker 3: Uh we met Blue. Blue was Blue is my second MIC.
Speaker 3: I never called him hype man, So Blue is my
Speaker 3: second MIC. And Blue grew up in the same neighborhood
Speaker 3: as Whino and whatever. So who was Coolio's producer? The DJ?
Speaker 3: He's yeah, yeah, the recipes Coolio so blues with me.
Speaker 3: We got another cousin s class. He's from Inglewood, So
Speaker 3: blues from Carson one from Carson. Yeah, and DJ Pool
Speaker 3: loved the Blue, so Pool because Blue is funny. The
Speaker 3: nigga got jokes, y'all remember Gobby and yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 4: I worked through them with ran marketing stuff.
Speaker 3: So Gobby the only other nigga because well, the only
Speaker 3: nigga I've ever seen in real life, shut up Blue.
Speaker 3: Goby talked Blue into a circle with like bagging on niggas.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Poo loved Blue because he was funny. He
Speaker 3: could shoot jokes the street dude, but he's a comedian.
Speaker 3: He's funny, and so Pool loved him and started putting
Speaker 3: them in movies. Three Strikes this, that, and the third,
Speaker 3: so really meeting them went to Blue went to Pool
Speaker 3: and that's how we met meech in them. We met
Speaker 3: meeting him because Pool was like, okay, we'll have We'll
Speaker 3: have Blue be the artist and then was he the
Speaker 3: first artist under So that was the plan. The plan changed.
Speaker 3: The original plan was Pool quarterbacks and then Blue and
Speaker 3: Me come in. That got switched and our meat you
Speaker 3: eventually would I remember the nigga asked me how much
Speaker 3: to get you out your deal? And he was dead serious.
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, if if we give Varorty a million dollars,
Speaker 3: well you know what I'm saying, Well, they let you go.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't even know if I
Speaker 3: want to be in debt to a nigga or a
Speaker 3: million dollars. I remember, I was like, I'm opting out,
Speaker 3: you know, because then it was gonna be me running
Speaker 3: it and blew the artists. And what really happened is
Speaker 3: Blue took all the mantles. I opted out. I can't
Speaker 3: speak on what happened with Pool and Meets because I
Speaker 3: don't know exactly. It's just one minute that was the play.
Speaker 3: Then the play switch opted out of the play. The
Speaker 3: hood came into it, which is great beach, and it
Speaker 3: was rich already they already being math, was bing math,
Speaker 3: but the music was not a factor. And you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, I'll say as much as I can
Speaker 3: without you know whatever, but I would say this, I
Speaker 3: sent them to Atlanta. It wasn't none of their fucking ideas.
Speaker 3: We got patchworks. So if you come to La, why
Speaker 3: would you go to Atlanta? So it was behind then
Speaker 3: like take it to Atlanta because La niggas is gonna
Speaker 3: be trying to figure out where y'all getting this money from,
Speaker 3: who is y'all niggas, And then niggas gonna start running in.
Speaker 4: Trying to shoot up shit.
Speaker 3: First, you're gonna start as a homie, which is the
Speaker 3: extortion bit that happens the most rapped niggas that go
Speaker 3: out talking tough shit in La. You're gonna get extorted.
Speaker 3: The next one, they really just gonna come on your helmet.
Speaker 3: And the third wave is they send the bitch at you.
Speaker 3: She's gonna get you some pussy and then she's gonna
Speaker 3: lock the door one day, and that's happened in niggas
Speaker 3: too in La. So what you don't want to do
Speaker 3: is be out there looking like you know, that's anywhere, though,
Speaker 3: don't come out looking like steak.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: A whole bunch of starving parvo, wolves and shit, and
Speaker 3: you like, oh, looking fucks bloody steep. Okay, nigga, don't
Speaker 3: come get you. So my luck suggestion was take that ship.
Speaker 3: My quote was taken to the Woldies. I was like,
Speaker 3: go out with the Woldies. Take that ship to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Because these niggas is already asking questions. There was a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of other shit happening. Like I said, I
Speaker 3: don't want to speaking. And so they went to Atlanta
Speaker 3: and and fast forward two years later, I'm getting the
Speaker 3: report card and it was not good. I was in
Speaker 3: the pen already, like jeezuz did this so and so
Speaker 3: they beat up. I'm like, bro, you cannot be can't
Speaker 3: can't go after parties after you know, not guilty verdicts.
Speaker 3: The ship with elephants. I was like, don't do it.
Speaker 3: You're bringing all this a fence. It was a lot
Speaker 3: of Shenanigans.
Speaker 4: Great, so you were in when that was started possible?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go there.
Speaker 4: I see them. And then I go to New York
Speaker 4: and then I have to go to Vegas.
Speaker 3: I get locked up in Vegas and fast forward by
Speaker 3: two thousand and three is four, I'm getting the report
Speaker 3: card of the Shenanigans and I'm like, don't do the Shenanigans.
Speaker 3: First of all, you can't put a billboard when you're
Speaker 3: leaving the airport. When you go into the airport and
Speaker 3: leaving it in front of Jamaine Duprius says the world
Speaker 3: is being I'm like, you can put on no music.
Speaker 3: Where the fuck is the music? Nigga like sell hot
Speaker 3: Dog a sudden nigga do something y'all niggas cannot explain,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, but they went for it. Ultimately, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I always want meet and
Speaker 3: like I said, my other cousin and a gag of
Speaker 3: my homies are you know were in or BMF.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And you know, the worst
Speaker 4: part is that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of money and to set black people
Speaker 3: back by twenty five years, that was a lot of
Speaker 3: fucking money and not having those relationships, you know, those people.
Speaker 4: Not having a relationship.
Speaker 3: And I'm not mad at fifth, but you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like that wasn't supposed to be a documentary
Speaker 3: that's supposed to just be you know, other people keep
Speaker 3: it together and get the bag. Then we couldn't keep
Speaker 3: it together, or they couldn't keep it together. But as
Speaker 3: a poor execution of a fucking amazing opportunity.
Speaker 4: I could have paid a lot of people.
Speaker 3: So I always I look at it like, damn Fifth
Speaker 3: Phil got a documentary and the TV show out of it.
Speaker 4: But that shit was supposed to be incredible. How did
Speaker 4: you avoid gang banging from where you're from?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't think you avoid it.
Speaker 3: I just anybody that tells you you have to step
Speaker 3: into a gang is a fucking liar, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like we're all we all grow up somewhere,
Speaker 3: so always always liking it to like the Kendrick skit
Speaker 3: because I think his his it's so visceral. I relived
Speaker 3: that shit like it was on a good kid, Mad
Speaker 3: City ship where he's just like where your mama from,
Speaker 3: where your grandmama from? Like dat's la Like you're gonna
Speaker 3: get pressed if somebody, especially if you stick out like
Speaker 3: a sore thumb, somebody's gonna be like why are you
Speaker 3: over here? I mean, And as far as just growing
Speaker 3: up in the neighborhood. You don't have to do shit.
Speaker 3: It's a basketball nigga. Think about it. On the block,
Speaker 3: like anywhere Brooklyn, fucking Florida, Miami, Uh, you know, anywhere
Speaker 3: that you're at. It's a comedy dude. Somebody that's funny.
Speaker 3: On your block. It's somebody who played basketball. It's a
Speaker 3: real straight lace dude. That might be the police. He
Speaker 3: might be a crooked cop, but it's a straight lace dude.
Speaker 3: It's a it's the one all the girls like, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's like the pretty boy
Speaker 3: nigga that all the girls like. It's usually a gay
Speaker 3: nigga too. It's just all these different people. So that's
Speaker 3: that's a regular street in LA. They made. What they
Speaker 3: did was they created this narrative that in La you
Speaker 3: had to do it, and that's what you're do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sells good, it selles and.
Speaker 3: It's great boys in the hood, but that's actors and
Speaker 3: some of them niggas ain't even from La. A lot
Speaker 3: of them it's from New York. And so that's this
Speaker 3: narrative that, uh, you're forced the times I would assume
Speaker 3: you'd be forced to say, and you're not even forced
Speaker 3: is because your pops and not that he forced you.
Speaker 4: It's just you associate or your older brother.
Speaker 3: So I know a lot of people who've stepped in
Speaker 3: because they broke it, you know what I'm saying, or
Speaker 3: their father was. So it's like, I'm this is calm
Speaker 3: on second nature. But nobody when you're like teena, you
Speaker 3: gotta do it. Nobody never says that, like lies to
Speaker 3: you being outside of it. That is the fun it is,
Speaker 3: I would assume until it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when I used to see like like n
Speaker 1: w A and like they rocking ice black oh ship,
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 4: It's so different to us.
Speaker 3: Gangster's in black. There is no you know, they were there.
Speaker 3: They're a construct their concept and I'm not disrespecting them.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying there are gangs. They are you wear
Speaker 3: the wall of the crypt right. Yeah he was, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and something he didn't rep it though,
Speaker 3: like that, like I mean on.
Speaker 4: The right right.
Speaker 3: More people started stepping in just saying like cuz and blood,
Speaker 3: like the young niggas is really outside. And then we
Speaker 3: got a third factor. We got Southsiders. We got Mexicans,
Speaker 3: right and that's a whole different factor. So it's like
Speaker 3: this whole gang ship. Motherfucker's got a fun up, Like
Speaker 3: it's just bloods and cribs. You got these Southsiders and
Speaker 3: they don't want you around there, and they are they
Speaker 3: hopping out with k's on niggas.
Speaker 5: You don't think the most overt version of like putting
Speaker 5: it out there was Banging on Wax.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the first one that was. But
Speaker 3: here's the rubb on that. If I'm correct, there's only
Speaker 3: two people alive from Banging on Wax. Wow. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was overt, and guess what, now you're the target. Nobody
Speaker 3: survived that except for two people that I know of.
Speaker 3: I don't even say their names, but it's only two
Speaker 3: people alive, and one of them had a suitonym when
Speaker 3: he was on Banging on Wax. He didn't gobody his
Speaker 3: real name.
Speaker 2: Because who would have been doing it before that? Maybe
Speaker 2: come to those wanted maybe well, I mean.
Speaker 4: There were people making so some of these records that
Speaker 4: came out.
Speaker 3: That would eventually become legendary rap albums started off as
Speaker 3: like hood demos that they would sell it to swap meets.
Speaker 3: So I recall one in particular where the artist is
Speaker 3: gang banging. He talked about where he's from. He talked
Speaker 3: about killing the enemies, the ops, all that. But when
Speaker 3: he sanitized it by the time he got a major
Speaker 3: record deal but not that La in La Bloods and
Speaker 3: Crypts loved it. In the South Siders, the Mexicans loved
Speaker 3: it too, but by the time he came out the
Speaker 3: mainstream he was he made it a lot more digestible
Speaker 3: by not putting out like I'm from this hood and
Speaker 3: I killed those particular people. Yeah, it's uh, it's the
Speaker 3: lifestyle is trust me.
Speaker 4: I got friends.
Speaker 3: That was game members before we met, you know, prisoners
Speaker 3: and some lifers after totally good people. I'm not knocking that.
Speaker 3: It's just it's not really uh for me. I never
Speaker 3: wanted to. I didn't step in. So what I remember
Speaker 3: telling in the studio one time, a dude you know
Speaker 3: early on, said like you may have to put on
Speaker 3: the suit, like to sell the records. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like put on the Khaki shuite and get
Speaker 3: the krip walking. I remember I said this was sometime
Speaker 3: around this time, around like ninety.
Speaker 4: Seven ninety eight issues.
Speaker 3: But I remember I just said, bro, I'm from you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, I forgot how to krip walk,
Speaker 3: because if you if you not a cryp, then don't
Speaker 3: krip walk. So when you grow up in a neighborhood
Speaker 3: where people crip walk, you krip walk. And as sure
Speaker 3: as I'm rest assured that if you grew up in
Speaker 3: the blood neighborhood, you be walking. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if you don't become a blood, stop be walking
Speaker 3: because you only creating a problem for yourself. And now
Speaker 3: you may not had the homies and the burner in
Speaker 3: the backup, so you don't do it. So I had
Speaker 3: forgotten how to crip walk because I decided I didn't.
Speaker 3: I said the dumbest thing when they talked. When they
Speaker 3: asked me to step into the hood, they said, baby John,
Speaker 3: because I was a RAS cast. They said, baby John,
Speaker 3: you're gonna see from the hood. And then I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: how much y'all paying an hour? And then the niggas
Speaker 3: laughed at me and they said, fuck it out. It's
Speaker 3: just my baby Joe. And that was a continue by
Speaker 3: you know, my life in the hood has had.
Speaker 4: A great time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they never forced they never force you man,
Speaker 3: I've never seen nobody force.
Speaker 4: Most people jump in because they broke.
Speaker 3: So you want to sell dope, okay, So you need
Speaker 3: somebody to front you some dope, and you need some
Speaker 3: protection while you and where you're gonna sell a dope at.
Speaker 3: You can't go down the block to somebody else neighborhood
Speaker 3: selling dope. So you need a location to get on
Speaker 3: your feet, help your mama, whatever your situation is. The
Speaker 3: other one is you already grandfathered in. And the last
Speaker 3: one is something fucked up happened and you mad, you
Speaker 3: want to get some get back. Then there's a fourth.
Speaker 3: It is cool to a certain degree. The girls like gangsters,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the girls like the digger,
Speaker 3: the lowrider, and you know what I'm saying. And the
Speaker 3: homies love you know what I'm saying. You got his
Speaker 3: tats and all that, So it's some of it.
Speaker 4: Niggas do anything for some vagina.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did understand LA politics at first. When I first went,
Speaker 1: I would go to any hood like wherever they said
Speaker 1: they was at, Like uh autographs that do we tell?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: We used to have to do that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't to I started hanging with other LA people there,
Speaker 1: it was like what you're doing is not normal? And
Speaker 1: I'm like what, Like I would go to saucing. I
Speaker 1: would go there and people what is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Like and I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: But one thing I do know it is like when
Speaker 1: a person asked you where you're from, like my accident
Speaker 1: is so happy? I wasna that, like I've never had
Speaker 1: Like as soon as they say, send me where you
Speaker 1: from and I say, they like, definitely not from here.
Speaker 3: And that's the nicest thing I can say about La.
Speaker 3: They do not They hunt each other like LA hunts
Speaker 3: his own you know what I'm saying, Like they'll figure
Speaker 3: it out, like a't from.
Speaker 4: You could tell by the way I walk, like like
Speaker 4: I can look.
Speaker 1: I can now physically look at somebody and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's from Like you know what I'm saying. Like, And
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you know we were with the Yankee
Speaker 1: hat right, which which is like you went to that.
Speaker 3: Neighbors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Yankee had his neighbors.
Speaker 3: There's like for every damn near for every fucking handitar
Speaker 3: wild man. So that can just get you joy.
Speaker 1: See, Like my friend Tito, he's not he's he wears
Speaker 1: whatever hat though, but uh.
Speaker 3: Not not in any hood like anywhere he knows, he knows. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's funny is like even a specifically like Compton, people
Speaker 3: don't wear l A hats right Long Beach like everybody,
Speaker 3: Like just the best way to explain that LA to
Speaker 3: me is like New York has boroughs within your borroughs
Speaker 3: you got you know, left Frack City, you know, you
Speaker 3: got all these different places. We got like fifty two boroughs.
Speaker 3: L A is like New York for fifty two boroughs,
Speaker 3: like Guardena's Guardena. You know what I'm saying. Long Beach
Speaker 3: is a long beach. You know what I'm saying, constant
Speaker 3: there's a Compton and a Bompting like it coexists. So
Speaker 3: we're we got the west side, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Then you got the east side, which is watched, and
Speaker 3: then you got even further in and watches the whole city,
Speaker 3: right city. Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: It's not like our counties, right or it is count
Speaker 1: it's county.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a pretty big county. It's not even the
Speaker 3: biggest one California's biggest fuck. But yeah, our ship is
Speaker 3: even Hollywood in the Valley is still La County, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but but I was just saying, like it may be
Speaker 3: the easiest way. So some people when people think like
Speaker 3: Compton Long Beach, like it's it's not this unified place.
Speaker 3: It's a whole bunch of different they don't wear the
Speaker 3: same clothes, and somebody's being not helpful to them, and
Speaker 3: try up. I know, I do got a the doorbell.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah yeah we uh yet like literally tribal, so
Speaker 3: your hat could be a problem. You're obviously your colors
Speaker 3: and then your color go to East bro It's places.
Speaker 3: I remember one time we was, uh, this is past,
Speaker 3: this is past. Your geography is worse than mine. But
Speaker 3: that San Pedro, so San Piedro, there's like if you
Speaker 3: went south of see Arson, so Compton, Carson, Wilmington in
Speaker 3: this place called San Pedro's right by the water, like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and uh, it's pretty predominantly Mexican,
Speaker 3: predominantly Southsiders. I remember we went to a party and
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, some Mexican girls, like a
Speaker 3: couple of you know, Mexican homeboys, uh me and then
Speaker 3: our homeboy J two eleven here a white boy. I
Speaker 3: remember when in Mexico, he's like, we should go. He's
Speaker 3: like why, He's like, because they were discussing who to
Speaker 3: kill you or the weddow whoa. So sometimes they're tripping,
Speaker 3: like why is this nigga over here? Why does white
Speaker 3: dude over.
Speaker 4: Like we beat l A be tripping?
Speaker 3: Man? I mean, I think we've gotten a lot better.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so there's a politics, there's a racial issue.
Speaker 3: Think about it. New York is built up, so y'all
Speaker 3: got the same amount of people, but you guys are
Speaker 3: so you're almost forced to deal with people saying we
Speaker 3: got enough space to be an asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's why New York is our asshole too,
Speaker 1: because we like.
Speaker 2: They got the compression can.
Speaker 1: But in the nineties, right, I was dating this girl
Speaker 1: in l A and I you know, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, if she always come meet me.
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know one time, like let
Speaker 3: me go with your neighborhood.
Speaker 1: She was like no, And I was like, what I
Speaker 1: didn't understand the politic to me, Puerto.
Speaker 4: Ricans Mexican is the same. And she she put her things.
Speaker 3: No, no, she.
Speaker 4: Showed like basically I belong to the hood.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my God like like forced me
Speaker 1: to say no, no, no, no, you can't come to
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. I was like, I want to come around.
Speaker 1: And I remember that ship. That ship hit me and
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: Like, damn, I mean kissing this bitchy. Basically, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, that's when I started started to know, you know,
Speaker 1: because at first we're thinking everywhere it's just like because
Speaker 1: the same people everywhere.
Speaker 4: But you start to know that that that politics is real.
Speaker 1: But like I got to admire you for that because
Speaker 1: it's like so easy to go that route, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like the fact that you stay
Speaker 1: like because you you ain't never want to.
Speaker 3: At one point, they say, man, I asked you ask
Speaker 3: I asked battle Cat. It was it was like two
Speaker 3: thousand sons. I was like, you signed the battle Cat right, No,
Speaker 3: he discovered us. Okay, me and my home Way Bird,
Speaker 3: but you know, the West was popping. I was like,
Speaker 3: and my label was looking at me like what's wrong
Speaker 3: with you? Like not nigga, I'm good at what I do.
Speaker 3: But I remember I asked Cat. I was like, so
Speaker 3: what would you do if I came back tomorrow? A
Speaker 3: little khaki suit booke chucks get to cut with the
Speaker 3: homies on down the street. He's like, so you practiced
Speaker 3: that way. That's the prototype of like the West Coast,
Speaker 3: me and the hummies all the time. Hummy, that's the stereotime.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was like, i'd be you know, He's like,
Speaker 3: I would scratched my head because that's just not who
Speaker 3: you being. And I'm a watch baby, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I grew up in nine seventiest Coast watch
Speaker 3: Bak Street, you know what I'm saying. Me and Spider,
Speaker 3: the one that was signed a G unit. I'm his
Speaker 3: older brother. Martelle, like I am who I am. I
Speaker 3: just never wanted to be son. I wasn't so for me.
Speaker 3: You know. Some people lead into that and lean lean
Speaker 3: into it a little bit more than they really should.
Speaker 3: And that's cool. It's got a lot of people a
Speaker 3: lot of money. If I did it, I don't even
Speaker 3: think I look right, would it? Like I did it
Speaker 3: in the video, but the video didn't really come out.
Speaker 3: I did a song with Big Rock, Uh called back
Speaker 3: it Up, and I'm actually in a khaki suit, but
Speaker 3: I reverse take all that bullshit.
Speaker 4: Off and then I just wear myself.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know if you if you had, like
Speaker 1: you said, you had a choice, but if you had
Speaker 1: no choice, which game would you?
Speaker 4: You're closer to what the bloods.
Speaker 3: Kind of clezy? I would I grew up in the
Speaker 3: crib neighborhood. Okay, sorry, I would. I would have stepped
Speaker 3: in as a crib.
Speaker 5: Okay, let let's get off the stereotystical side of the
Speaker 5: West Coast. But the scene that kind of helped birth
Speaker 5: you in the and that that really deep hip hop
Speaker 5: scene in LA, like the scene that you come from
Speaker 5: at least because I'm sure there's the scene even before
Speaker 5: the iced t and all these guys were part of
Speaker 5: the legendary What was that? Was that one club that
Speaker 5: everybody was coming out.
Speaker 3: Of that was like, oh was that a freestyle fellowship?
Speaker 4: And all of them the good life?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Talk about the good life? Was that it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The good life or the one that even all the
Speaker 2: Liquid crew and all these guys were Unity. That's the one.
Speaker 3: So Unity was the club. You probably wouldn't know. I
Speaker 3: don't remember you performed in LA back then. You performed
Speaker 3: at Unity. So Unity was a club. Rest in peace.
Speaker 3: Bigger Bee through and Bigger Be worked at loud. Okay,
Speaker 3: so him and Orlando, I'd be remiss because Bigger B recipes.
Speaker 3: Orlando is still alive. So they threw a club in
Speaker 3: La called You Downtown. Yeah, but it moved a few times,
Speaker 3: but it was always Unity. So Unity was first of all,
Speaker 3: it wasn't wasn't nobody really getting no daytime radio, so
Speaker 3: it was kind of like the wake Up Show was
Speaker 3: your one shot. At this point, it was only the
Speaker 3: wake Up Show. It was Swaying Tech. Before that it
Speaker 3: was Mike nardone and King Jams and and then they
Speaker 3: closed they show. I'm sorry, got to give problems. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Juliog was setting it off. He's actually even before with
Speaker 3: Mixed Masters Juliog. And then they kind of folded all
Speaker 3: that stuff. And then the next the next I would say,
Speaker 3: the next era of of Wrap radio became uh, thank
Speaker 3: you for giving me that too, Juliog. But then it
Speaker 3: became Unity. That was like the only outlet to perform.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's where everybody like, that's the first
Speaker 3: time I ever got a show. I opened up, I
Speaker 3: had a demo, I had a white label record called
Speaker 3: Remaining Anonymous, Won't Catch Me Running. It got some support
Speaker 3: on college radio. And all that, and then I got
Speaker 3: booked and then me some money and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm all in because I was just fanning. I was
Speaker 3: a fan and I didn't know people really did get
Speaker 3: but I didn't think I was gonna get some money
Speaker 3: for rapping. And I did the show. But yeah, that
Speaker 3: was like the Biggie the first shows. Biggie did the
Speaker 3: first shows like Wu Tang because he had loud so
Speaker 3: my beat that everybody that was coming to if he wasn't,
Speaker 3: if you wasn't like cool J, Salt and Pepper or something.
Speaker 4: Like that, and you for new artists.
Speaker 3: He was doing unity Wow.
Speaker 5: Because I like to bring that up because we talk
Speaker 5: about all the game banging side. But just like just
Speaker 5: like I said about Miami, like we had a thriving
Speaker 5: hip hop scene with B Boys, Big.
Speaker 2: I made it turntable lists.
Speaker 5: We got to talk about that too, but l as
Speaker 5: the illis turntable list, the Ills, B Boys and be
Speaker 5: with the graffiti scene is crazy. So they had all
Speaker 5: those elements that that was a big part of the
Speaker 5: LA scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely we did. We We definitely had a
Speaker 3: great scene and a lot of the people still have
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, we still do I wanted to also
Speaker 3: add on to that is that hip hop for us,
Speaker 3: we saw the beach streets and the crush grooves and
Speaker 3: we started doing it. Literally, So a lot of my
Speaker 3: friends and how I even met most of my friends
Speaker 3: was because they had bopper clubs. So the teeny boppers,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, Like you couldn't be
Speaker 3: twenty one, you had to be twenty younger one, and
Speaker 3: they had one in Long Beach whatever. So while while
Speaker 3: we started you know, like break dancing like they called
Speaker 3: it housing in LA. So we was dancing and breaking,
Speaker 3: I was trying to wrap for like far Aside and
Speaker 3: the Licks and all these people like that's where we
Speaker 3: were beating at these bopper clubs, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And that's how we met so and so from from
Speaker 3: eighteenth Street and so and so from from East LA.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Because he might tag and
Speaker 3: he might also DJ, and that's how we was getting
Speaker 3: each other's hood. So it wasn't for the culture, LA
Speaker 3: would probably be the wild fucking West because that's how
Speaker 3: we got to know each other. I mean, and honestly,
Speaker 3: if you can tell the truth, if you go to
Speaker 3: a lot of hip hop clubs. Fucking I'll tell the truth,
Speaker 3: Shan the Devil. It be majority of the Mexican they
Speaker 3: really support hip hop shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Niggas be on some fucking forty five year old nigga
Speaker 3: trying to you know, act like he blue face, like nigga,
Speaker 3: grow the fuck up, you take them pants off, Nigga
Speaker 3: and titas shirt. But now the culture is really like
Speaker 3: it's being hip hop. Rap music was so influential in La.
Speaker 3: It helped us get to know each other because we're
Speaker 3: spread out, and it stopped people from shooting shit out
Speaker 3: each other for a long time for real, like because
Speaker 3: motherfucker's like, oh they'd be break dancing in New York.
Speaker 3: Maybe we shouldn't, you know, shouldn't shoot for real. That
Speaker 3: was That's how crazy. And then we influenced y'all in
Speaker 3: the negative way and nigga.
Speaker 4: Start getting niggering the world. Yeah, we get good weed.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that great week. We got you all,
Speaker 4: great week, great week. He's still on the albums, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And James j lyricists and Danger lyrics.
Speaker 3: And Jajer lyrics was just more of a let's call
Speaker 3: the projects. I was just making some ship, uh because
Speaker 3: band camp you. I was just like kind of coming
Speaker 3: up with something the uh it was like a series.
Speaker 3: It would be like an original record and then kind
Speaker 3: of me picking like mixtape ship because I think I
Speaker 3: had a volume one, two, and three and I was
Speaker 3: doing this campaign called save the raz Cast, and I
Speaker 3: thought that was funny.
Speaker 4: Do you think you get to respect and hip hop
Speaker 4: you deserve?
Speaker 3: I get I think I've been blessed. I'm super respected
Speaker 3: by my peers. I want to be respected at the
Speaker 3: fucking bank, all right, because yours definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, my peers respect me.
Speaker 3: I don't don't think the I don't think the greater
Speaker 3: the greater audience is just fans.
Speaker 4: They only know what they hear.
Speaker 3: A lot, and that's no disrespect to them, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They're consumers. I'm a connoisseur, So consumers
Speaker 3: just know like McDonald's and I always tell people like
Speaker 3: McDonald's don't make the best burger, but that motherfucker's in
Speaker 3: the mall, that motherfucker's at the airport down the street.
Speaker 4: So I get it.
Speaker 3: But I'm not the McDonald's a wrap, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm that mom and Pops store. I mean,
Speaker 3: I should fight, I should be charging if you know,
Speaker 3: you know, but no, I want to McDonald's money. So
Speaker 3: they got to figure out how them to fucking barry
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 4: But do you can you see itself a underground seat?
Speaker 3: No, I think that's the term they put on people
Speaker 3: that didn't sell records. The only difference between me and
Speaker 3: jay Z is a million records. The only difference between
Speaker 3: me and M and M is a million records.
Speaker 4: That's it because.
Speaker 3: No better or no worse, amazing talent market the war
Speaker 3: as fuck.
Speaker 4: They look at this the for young man, So.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So, uh, No, underground is
Speaker 3: just what they call niggas that ain't sold the records.
Speaker 3: And the funnier part is, I wouldn't be underground if
Speaker 3: I sold a million dollars. If I made a quote
Speaker 3: quote unquote made a million dollars and got the quote
Speaker 3: bag selling use condoms, my own used condoms.
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers would buy my records.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, it's so hot. People are
Speaker 3: fucking reactive in mommy. So all that underground ship is
Speaker 3: just what niggas try to It's like this fucked up
Speaker 3: jacket they try to put on niggas because they didn't
Speaker 3: sell records. Meanwhile, them same niggas when they didn't sell
Speaker 3: no records. You know what I mean? Right? They just
Speaker 3: like when niggas get on and they be like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's underground, I'm the guy.
Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: That's the same shit I hate with rap niggas that
Speaker 3: as soon as they get on, they start trying to
Speaker 3: compare theirselfs with with with whoever is popular.
Speaker 4: They're like, well, you know what I'm saying, So who
Speaker 4: the best?
Speaker 3: You know me? You know me? You weird ass niggas
Speaker 3: funk out of here. Nigga niggas always do that goofy
Speaker 3: ship you mean cold? You know about that crazy niggas is.
Speaker 4: Coring ball for that ship.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm just the only difference between me
Speaker 3: is me and anybody is me is a million. So
Speaker 3: because all eyes on me, then all eyes on me,
Speaker 3: I can carry the same weight and I get the
Speaker 3: same opportunities. My whole ship is say, fuck underground and
Speaker 3: all that ship skill set. This ship ain't called what
Speaker 3: bitch you dayton, sh ain't called what other businesses you've
Speaker 3: got the ship called raps. Rap is the only thing
Speaker 3: where niggas tell you you too good at it. I've
Speaker 3: never heard a nigga say, Jordan, don't too much dunking
Speaker 3: all the time. The fuck is wrong with these niggas.
Speaker 3: So literally, he drove the car too fast in the
Speaker 3: the fuck it's the corny as ship. Ever, like, niggas
Speaker 3: need to stop. I'm talking to you. All your niggas are,
Speaker 3: talk to them. Stop that ship corny bro, how you
Speaker 3: over wrapped nigga? That just means I'm better than you.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that, like you do you
Speaker 1: think you're you're smarter.
Speaker 4: Than the audience, because.
Speaker 3: Already give that away.
Speaker 5: Should the artists be better than the audiences listening to
Speaker 5: They told me never.
Speaker 3: To think, don't talk down to my audience, so you
Speaker 3: don't ever have that assumption. Was that these people selling
Speaker 3: you funk ship and I'm trying to sell you some
Speaker 3: real ship. And I've always tried to tell my audience
Speaker 3: that hey, I'm talking to you on some real ship.
Speaker 3: And then my audience said, you know what, I like
Speaker 3: this fun ship. That's that ain't my fault, but yeah,
Speaker 3: of course that that that that can make you disillusion
Speaker 3: with the with the the business. Again, these people are consumers.
Speaker 3: They're not connoisseurs, you know what I'm saying. So they
Speaker 3: know McDonald's. I can't get mad because the kid is
Speaker 3: like I learned a happy meal.
Speaker 4: They want what the fuck they want.
Speaker 3: They've been trained that way.
Speaker 5: Could you imagine people who like rock saying spring where
Speaker 5: the where the drummer and the guitarist or all novel
Speaker 5: is just like the audience the craziest music, bro it was.
Speaker 3: The awful That's why we listen to awful rap. Come on, man,
Speaker 3: A lot of these people sound like they went in
Speaker 3: with no metronome and just said some ship and then
Speaker 3: the nigga just played a beat at whatever. They just
Speaker 3: like spent the wheel and picked the tempo. Yes, just trash,
Speaker 3: and everybody's playing political fucking rang there games like it's
Speaker 3: cool because somebody puts some money behind it. Dumb is
Speaker 3: we are living and you remember that movie what's that fuck?
Speaker 3: It's idiocracy?
Speaker 4: Idiocracy.
Speaker 3: It's got a lecture like that, you're idiocracy.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you know about that. That's my favorite movie.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. They didn't put it out because they thought
Speaker 3: it was too dumb that people wouldn't get it, and
Speaker 3: then they were right, but they keep that.
Speaker 2: We need to do screenings of that movie today, right.
Speaker 1: Like and think about your president and bro, your phone
Speaker 1: is going to a smart phone, but your phone is
Speaker 1: actually making you making you jump, like I remember, like
Speaker 1: you know, like having to make a call. I just
Speaker 1: have to remember the number one facts, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like right now, I don't know
Speaker 1: nobody addresses that lad.
Speaker 3: It made us, It made us less, use the ship less,
Speaker 3: Like I don't even think I know my own number.
Speaker 2: Talking about himself like you know, just google me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Now it's even worse.
Speaker 1: People are coming up to you going like this today
Speaker 1: phones and they could just get your contact like yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship crazy, but we had that was the time
Speaker 1: for we had it went to way that this is
Speaker 1: very this is very hot.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Bro, it's getting crazy. But we got to times just nosy,
Speaker 3: who's crazy? You got a beer, sir? Yeah we had
Speaker 3: a beer.
Speaker 2: This this is a this beer soul just prop prophet
Speaker 2: this point backco Lincoln. You did you did a show
Speaker 2: up there one time. I think with with the vinchure
Speaker 2: rest in peace, I want to talk about him at
Speaker 2: some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you want to do a quick Thomas.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, wait wait for the fo.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I want to get the face man and
Speaker 3: my what you mean this game? Man? Man? This Snoos
Speaker 3: said is long as long as ye yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Let's go. Yeah man, amazing. All right yeah
Speaker 3: now now what I really want to do is get
Speaker 3: ye self drunk.
Speaker 4: He's okay, so you know, let's go.
Speaker 2: They don't want to see me drunk?
Speaker 4: Can we get up?
Speaker 3: Slither?
Speaker 4: Let's it go? He might start walking.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: This is our drinking game. You do you know the rules?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of do.
Speaker 3: Wait, don't if I want to ignore one, don't I
Speaker 3: get a pass on one or something?
Speaker 5: No, you don't get no passes. The passes yourself. If
Speaker 5: we're gonna give you two choices, okay, one we do
Speaker 5: not drink. But if you say both are neither, then
Speaker 5: we drinking. Everybody drinks, so you're not just getting me drunk,
Speaker 5: you get yourself drunk.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and then we want stories out of this.
Speaker 2: It's not really absolute tupac or easy rest in peace
Speaker 2: of both.
Speaker 3: Okay, well wait wait, wait, okay for this one Okay,
Speaker 3: what what's the criteri criteria? What criteria? It could be anything.
Speaker 3: It could be someone that was your neighbor. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: going with Tupac.
Speaker 4: Then okay, and you met tak Yeah, get out of here.
Speaker 3: You met easy once on the freeway, Okay. No, we
Speaker 3: was young born. We was on the one ten going south.
Speaker 2: This is the easy story.
Speaker 3: This is the easy story. Obviously with fans. He was
Speaker 3: in uh the ones that looked like the batmobile, the BMW,
Speaker 3: and we was in some kind of bucket, these little niggas,
Speaker 3: and we pulled up on him because he went past,
Speaker 3: you know whatever. We sped up trying to get next
Speaker 3: like next one, uh whatever. I probably was in the
Speaker 3: back seat whatever was like. And then he hit us
Speaker 3: up like also you know what I'm saying, like he
Speaker 3: probably hit us up by some gang ship. She smiled.
Speaker 3: And then Parker, I was acquainted because uh shout the
Speaker 3: money b I saw.
Speaker 4: I knew the whole digit on the ground.
Speaker 3: So I was always I was acquainted with pop before
Speaker 3: because of uh thug life, so rated on all of.
Speaker 4: Them was the homies.
Speaker 3: You said, not before dig Underground, not before but before
Speaker 3: I met shot Doug Life so we was out here.
Speaker 3: Don't you remember the time when I think, uh, when
Speaker 3: things was that Atlanta? No, no, no, no, no, wait,
Speaker 3: there was a time out here. I felt like it
Speaker 3: was out here. Maybe maybe no, it was Atlanta, I think. Anyway,
Speaker 3: he was with when he was in Thug Life. I
Speaker 3: met Pak and then I would meet Pack again a
Speaker 3: few other times periods, and uh, one time he was
Speaker 3: in Carson. At this we had a one of little
Speaker 3: city club and I pulled up. I was I was like,
Speaker 3: brass cats already. I had like the record deal and
Speaker 3: you know, a good car and ship and it was
Speaker 3: a Bentley Parks and I was going into this little
Speaker 3: club that was you know, by There ain't no clubs
Speaker 3: in Carson. So I fucking like pull up and Sugar
Speaker 3: and Pocket is getting in the Bentley and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what are y'all? And then I remember, you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm getting out and then Park was like what's her brass?
Speaker 4: And Sugar was like what a brass?
Speaker 3: And I was like, Hi, Park, what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, why are you in
Speaker 3: by the city?
Speaker 2: Like you didn't even know that he was with death already?
Speaker 4: No, I just didn't know.
Speaker 3: Carson ain't known for having fucking popping clubs. Bro, It's
Speaker 3: not like Vegas. It's like it's nice, it's a middle
Speaker 3: class or whatever. But we don't have no popping clubs.
Speaker 3: We people go to Hollywood or downtown or something. So that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: A couple of times, a couple of times I talked
Speaker 3: to pak Uh. You know, by no means was he
Speaker 3: like my bestie or nothing like that, But no, he
Speaker 3: was always cool with me. He always showed me a
Speaker 3: lot of up to shoot too, Always show me a.
Speaker 4: Long okay, nas or l L.
Speaker 3: What kind of questions these up over there? Look?
Speaker 2: Does your boy has.
Speaker 3: Your boy has he did this? I can't. I can't
Speaker 3: answer that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So drink your shot. You got a shout there, buddy, Yeah,
Speaker 4: stick with the one.
Speaker 2: I heard it, all right, Dre or battle Cat.
Speaker 4: That's too. I think.
Speaker 5: You're gonna I gotta.
Speaker 3: Go with battle Cat because he discovered me and he
Speaker 3: didn't have to listen to it our shitty cassette. So
Speaker 3: that's the reason why we had a little demo tape
Speaker 3: and he actually took the time to listen. So I'm
Speaker 3: always gratefully changing the dejectory of my life. There was
Speaker 3: another son I didn't answer though. Oh it was the
Speaker 3: Easy in the Tub podcast. I did answer it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we find out you already drunk. No Wojie rapper
Speaker 2: cares One.
Speaker 4: I notice it's hard for you.
Speaker 3: Come on, dude needs a shot. You can use this cup.
Speaker 3: This one also to give him to kars One and
Speaker 3: Coochie Wrap. Is that what you're asking? Yeah, I'm biased.
Speaker 3: Kars One's my favorite rapper and I'm going on this tour.
Speaker 3: He just told me. I'm going to euro tour. The
Speaker 3: My Philosophy to European Tour start next month.
Speaker 4: So the alcoholics or Cypreshill.
Speaker 3: Why are you coming with this? They're like this part
Speaker 3: of your finger or this part of your finger. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I love I love them. For everybody you mentioned,
Speaker 3: I love and respect Cypress Hill or the Licks. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give it to Cypress Hill. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 3: why b be Real and what they were going through.
Speaker 3: Uh in that era.
Speaker 2: For for being Latino, hell no, be real.
Speaker 4: From a gang and it ain't.
Speaker 3: You know. So, but I'm saying him having to even
Speaker 3: find his voice, you know what I'm saying. So that
Speaker 3: creative didn't let alone the Latino part of it. But
Speaker 3: see what I have to explain, let me, let me
Speaker 3: keep the keep your thoughts. Let's just stop and realize
Speaker 3: that in l A there's a politics called black, white,
Speaker 3: Mexican other. There's no Cuban, there's no Puerto Rican. You
Speaker 3: are either Mexican or you are.
Speaker 4: Right, so.
Speaker 3: We we operate. You got like the rest of the
Speaker 3: country operates on these other premises that don't exist in
Speaker 3: l A. No matter what you are, because he either
Speaker 3: or there is no option. So Puerto Rican, you're going
Speaker 3: have to decide right along those lines. You're going to
Speaker 3: be a Mexican or you're gonna be an other, which
Speaker 3: means you with the niggas. So having people like be
Speaker 3: and them having having a step up and try to
Speaker 3: be honest with themselves, like, hey, I'm a Latino and
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and I speak Spanish or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's dope in the in in how they were able
Speaker 3: to survive it, and hopefully that gave some inspiration and
Speaker 3: it brings all all of us together, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But nobody ever wants to tell the truth.
Speaker 3: And that's why there's so many misconceptions to go to
Speaker 3: jail and you will find out. I've had to watch
Speaker 3: well there's there's underneath that, there's bite side and all
Speaker 3: this other stuff in prison. But yeah, those are the
Speaker 3: general rules. Nobody cares if you're Filipino or whatever you are.
Speaker 3: Other and you with them niggas, You with you, you
Speaker 3: with them niggas. Now hopefully with what's horribly going to
Speaker 3: what in our country that all even our man conn
Speaker 3: of when they're staying like we all niggas, bro, they
Speaker 3: don't like that, so I don't we get there?
Speaker 1: And I just thought about it the other day. They
Speaker 1: really had a hit record card.
Speaker 9: I could just hear the man, you know, I was.
Speaker 9: I was thinking about that away with that drink chan sports.
Speaker 2: He put me onto it in in high school, and
Speaker 2: I was like, no fucking way to have a record.
Speaker 3: You didn't know that, no brand new fresh, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no way they called it that record. I
Speaker 3: heard their demo because I was I had a deal
Speaker 3: that I fucked off, uh or, I had a deal opportunity,
Speaker 3: a couple of deal opportunities early on. And then I remember,
Speaker 3: you know back then you get the tape. So I
Speaker 3: got like grand Man's you know what I'm saying, album
Speaker 3: like cassettes, like industry ship Niggas is already. You know,
Speaker 3: they're working on albums, they're sending people ship out. I
Speaker 3: remember I heard some of them records before be found
Speaker 3: his voice.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, man, like the devil wing of those records.
Speaker 3: Well, they had to deal, but I guess apparently, and
Speaker 3: I hope I'm not miss speaking on b but they
Speaker 3: just was like his tone. So then he went Naso
Speaker 3: and found his tone and it's so infectious that you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But that was part of the thing.
Speaker 3: Was like the beats are crazy. His rhymes was crazy
Speaker 3: but delivery.
Speaker 2: And then he like and the contrast with said being
Speaker 2: like that deep voices crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they killed it. Yeah, Shout out to Muggs with
Speaker 3: the beats.
Speaker 4: Like those beats cub I sent cub both Cuban, Cuban.
Speaker 2: Cuban Mexican, and I believe Muggs is Italian.
Speaker 3: I believe I believe.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, shout out to Hyeah Exhibit or Cannabis.
Speaker 3: Exhibit. You didn't that wasn't a comic game.
Speaker 2: Quick or Alchemists, this guy, this.
Speaker 3: Guy here, I'm gonna do the shot. They're both amazing. Man,
Speaker 3: it's a little You're welcome to have some Mama want
Speaker 3: if you want. This is not Jamison. This is like murderers,
Speaker 3: Is it Jamison? She's giving you jamieson bro It tastes
Speaker 3: like you can give him small shots. Thank you for
Speaker 3: trying to kill me.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've never seen nobody mixed whiskey with monster.
Speaker 2: That makes you a monster and monster. Yeah, any any
Speaker 2: stories were quick?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see we know you're outims story which we
Speaker 5: can maybe talk about later.
Speaker 3: No, it's good, We're fine. All right, here's a good one.
Speaker 3: So I don't have a record deal yet. Maybe I
Speaker 3: got a record. I got a record deal. Maybe I
Speaker 3: have a record deal. Maybe this is ninety five, but
Speaker 3: I ain't got it, ain't out yet. But my homeboy, Flip,
Speaker 3: his name is Michael Barber So Flip is from Inglewood.
Speaker 3: He and producer. He ends up helping me salvage and
Speaker 3: save sol on Nce. But one day we go to
Speaker 3: the studio and well we go to quicks a quick
Speaker 3: session again. Well it we call it out of bounds,
Speaker 3: Like you don't want to be out of bounds. I
Speaker 3: don't want to go to the South Sider party and
Speaker 3: be the only blackie because they're going to kill me.
Speaker 3: And you don't want to go to the blood party
Speaker 3: and you the crypt. But even still, even if you not,
Speaker 3: you just don't want to. Sometimes we like people have tails,
Speaker 3: So you might say, look as opposed to like my relative.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Because if you go up
Speaker 3: in the Crip neighborhood, you probably say my cousin.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you go up a blod neighborhood, you would say
Speaker 3: my relative. And so we have tales to tell where
Speaker 3: somebody from, and you don't want to stick out. So
Speaker 3: I remember we go to the studio and it says
Speaker 3: all Quick, I'm a fan. I'm tripping out, but I'm
Speaker 3: like against the wall, young boy looking around. I'm watching
Speaker 3: he's doing a vertical joy ride. Uh for what's his name?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: If? I watched him cook from the beginning? Did it?
Speaker 4: Then he did a song for Boss?
Speaker 3: Uh done? I'm watching him cook these true records. Ye,
Speaker 3: So that same session I watched Quick do two records
Speaker 3: and I just remember I basically shut the fuck up
Speaker 3: because I didn't want to say anything that would alert
Speaker 3: them that I grew up in the Kirk neighborhood, so
Speaker 3: super quiet. I watched it, but I told him that before,
Speaker 3: like you know, he's super lovely, like anytime, like if
Speaker 3: I show up, he throws me MIC's like, ras he
Speaker 3: get to it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, like that Quick is amazing.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I watched him cook like I like, because he can
Speaker 3: play everything. He's like one of the Quincy Jones dudes.
Speaker 3: He got great vision. He uh, he's just he's ill.
Speaker 3: He just he threw me a record recently. H and
Speaker 3: so I want to finish that record. That's one of
Speaker 3: my bucket list ships is a knockout of song with Quick.
Speaker 1: He told us that Michael Michael Jackson was crip.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was like Michael Jackson was doing things
Speaker 1: that it wasn't that wasn't.
Speaker 2: Picture that yehs photoshot.
Speaker 3: I mean, but Quick, look, stranger things have happened, man.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to tell you. You never know, man,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not telling I don't want to be telling
Speaker 3: people's business. But there's some people that super r and
Speaker 3: B that be Oh no, you got to remember it's
Speaker 3: just like this culture is what fifty some years old,
Speaker 3: fifty fifty one, it's game thing and is about might
Speaker 3: be the same or older older, Right, it's older. It's
Speaker 3: like mid sixties, nineteen sixties. So it's some people. It's
Speaker 3: great grandma gang banger. Yep, yeah, it's crazy. Ready to
Speaker 3: Die or Illmatic. I cannot disrespect neither one of them.
Speaker 3: Two albums. I think they're just incredible me too. Take yourself, Lottle.
Speaker 3: I meant complaint about Ready to Die. I had the
Speaker 3: demo tape you said die, not the demo, but before
Speaker 3: it came out, because right, telling industry people right when
Speaker 3: they were the executive the execut Was it white label? Yeah?
Speaker 3: White okay, okay, so yeah, the an last whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I ended up buying it anyway, But when I
Speaker 3: bought it, unbelievable. Wasn't on there? Tell me you still
Speaker 3: got that demo? No, I lost all that shit. I
Speaker 3: should have kept that ship. I mean, could life be life?
Speaker 3: And bro? I lost so much ship that's invaluable. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: that was my only complaint Bond the album. I bought
Speaker 3: the white label on one hundred twenty fifties.
Speaker 4: I lost all that ship.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was I just thought that record was incredible.
Speaker 3: The song hit list on this album is old like
Speaker 3: honor Biggie. That's why I made that Liberty's face. It's
Speaker 3: it's taking the R and B sample and creating an
Speaker 3: ill record off of it. Yeah, New York or Miami,
Speaker 3: We're not getting killed Miami next, Miami life. Yeah, gave
Speaker 3: me love out here? No New York did too? Come
Speaker 3: on that? Want to go back and say both.
Speaker 8: Taking a fucket okay Outcast or U g K both legendary.
Speaker 3: Uh and I'm such a big fan and have great expearances,
Speaker 3: but indebibly kind of my peers. This Outcast rest in
Speaker 3: Peerso Rico and I just really yeah, I'm i'm a
Speaker 3: it's so hard lean towards outcasts.
Speaker 2: Did you work with the Dungeon family.
Speaker 3: I did. I did a record I did for the
Speaker 3: fiftieth of Hip Hop. I rhymed over Outcast record and
Speaker 3: talked to Rico and everybody, like like maybe two or
Speaker 3: three months before he passed away, me and him, Curtis
Speaker 3: from Patchworks and uh yeah, man, like I and I
Speaker 3: was in the studio when it was working on a
Speaker 3: Quinn at Aliens. I think I was. I was at
Speaker 3: Dark that was Austin. Yeah yeah, yeah bro, we all
Speaker 3: come across each other. So yeah, I was in the
Speaker 3: studio shooting pool. I was supposed to They actually asked
Speaker 3: me to be on that record. I wasn't in Atlanta
Speaker 3: enough and uh, stupid me. I would have loved to
Speaker 3: have been on that record. And I'm shured have happened
Speaker 3: to you them times where you didn't take advantage of
Speaker 3: the opportunity, you know what I'm saying, Somebody showing love
Speaker 3: like Pun did that to me and would be like, yo,
Speaker 3: come you know what I'm saying, like come to the studio.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, bro, he didn't take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: La. First of all, was LA don't know how to
Speaker 3: say thank you, l A. Niggas still don't know how
Speaker 3: to say LA. Niggas don't even know how to tell
Speaker 3: you they like your music. Nigga be like not like
Speaker 3: I'm on your dig or none. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, like niggas preface everything fucked up, like because
Speaker 3: we don't know how to.
Speaker 4: Period alpha.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying like l A got it real,
Speaker 3: like we don't know how So when Pun Pun did
Speaker 3: it more than once, and I just remember, like.
Speaker 4: I was just like, put your pun and I buy
Speaker 4: your record.
Speaker 3: So I don't understand why you're being nice to me
Speaker 3: because I'm a fan, and I don't know how to
Speaker 3: accept you being this cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I remember, Norri, I remember what it was your party?
Speaker 4: Okay, oh, at the fun when you.
Speaker 3: Met, but no, no, I'm talking about the time that
Speaker 3: you was like, okay, it was your party blocked off
Speaker 3: in New York. You said some hilarious ship, the Mirage,
Speaker 3: thege it was downtown or the woman. I think I
Speaker 3: think it was downtown, But I just remember I was
Speaker 3: outside and they had to you know how. They always
Speaker 3: had the little like the police had the little blue
Speaker 3: little blockers ships. Nobody else could get in. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If you didn't already get in, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: And then Nooy he pulls up. You said something about
Speaker 3: somebody else and he was like, rosconsin you coming. I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: Friends one rock.
Speaker 3: Rock, Like, you're coming in? This is like uh this
Speaker 3: is what? What? What this is?
Speaker 4: That ninety eighth Yeah that's ninety yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yea yeah, and he got he got me
Speaker 3: into his own party. I'm outside, nigga. It was like
Speaker 3: a couple of rap niggas. I'm like, well stupid, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I want to go in there. That he was dy
Speaker 3: got me into this party?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: And it was lit Boys in the Hood or menaces Acid? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who what? Man?
Speaker 1: It's just because supart question why which one is closer.
Speaker 3: To the l a world life? I just like minutes
Speaker 3: because niggas was okay and shipped up like this is
Speaker 3: the hood was was was was a more positive story
Speaker 3: to me in the sense.
Speaker 2: Of it wasn't realistic, more grounded.
Speaker 3: At least they're both they both happened.
Speaker 4: I just like, I like, real story. Are you saying
Speaker 4: when it both happened?
Speaker 3: They both do happen. Okay, those things happen. There's an
Speaker 3: enemy and don't do there's an old dog, there's the smoker.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the uh boys in the Hood.
Speaker 3: I do like it because there's a strong father figure,
Speaker 3: so it's not always somebody sucking up because they don't
Speaker 3: have a dad. The same age as summer. It's okay,
Speaker 3: you remember that you're doing don't be a minus. You
Speaker 3: remember that. That's why they made that joke, you know,
Speaker 3: off off subject, don't be a minace when they walked
Speaker 3: in the liquor store with yeah, don't be a minute
Speaker 3: when they walked in the liquor store and she said,
Speaker 3: Big is the best part of.
Speaker 4: The way, his brothers are the best.
Speaker 3: Anyway, that's a whole different thing. So you picked menace,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick minutes just because it was about sliding,
Speaker 3: like and then Sofia was in it. True, he was
Speaker 3: there and cousin cousin Harold. I didn't know him. Then
Speaker 3: I remember, and I've got floud memories in Westwood, you know,
Speaker 3: So I look at the night that movie came out.
Speaker 4: It was a weekend, like a Friday.
Speaker 3: Stupid kids ship. We went to the It's like thousands
Speaker 3: of kids trying. They were sold out. The kids bum
Speaker 3: rushed all the theaters and just started finances and we
Speaker 3: forced Westwood to just play.
Speaker 4: All the theaters was playing. Yes, we did that.
Speaker 3: I can't get us all nigga about thousands of little black, brown, yellow, white,
Speaker 3: green kids.
Speaker 4: We did it.
Speaker 3: And then I do remember, uh theeveriest part, And I
Speaker 3: was like, that was gangsty between him and a Ryan
Speaker 3: gangster ship that she was like even the twitch. I
Speaker 3: remember the twitch. I was like, ah ship and then
Speaker 3: I would go on to meet broing and being my brother.
Speaker 2: That's why you didn't know.
Speaker 1: That's crazy killer Priso corrupt. Mm hmmm, are were drinking?
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't. Then other shenanigain me said Shenan again
Speaker 3: and then again and again, be against the world. It
Speaker 3: was dark and hell is hot. So Parker x I,
Speaker 3: let's see mingus world? Can I google? Can I get
Speaker 3: a lifelike? Sometimes exactly means the world's got a temptations? Right, yeah,
Speaker 3: fun that it's gotta it's gotta be.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 3: But that record fucked me. Some records per album that
Speaker 3: sucked me up. So me against the World had Hey,
Speaker 3: yeah right, I just just from recently doing man, he's
Speaker 3: I will well, I will call him.
Speaker 4: And get that done immediately today. Yeah. Absolutely, havoc orris.
Speaker 3: Hazardous. We don't have some, So you're setting me up
Speaker 3: for failure here, Well, you're gonna look, he's got an excuse.
Speaker 3: I'm drinking.
Speaker 2: I'm taking baby shows.
Speaker 3: I know this game.
Speaker 2: I'm drinking a drink.
Speaker 3: It is a game. Now you do a me.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a game. Okay, So.
Speaker 3: I love you all right?
Speaker 4: So I answered it by drinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you said both.
Speaker 3: Come on mans and have bro uh sol on ice
Speaker 3: or assassination. That's a tongue twister, bro assassination. No assassination,
Speaker 3: but are so on ice? It's the be gets you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's the beginning of and everything
Speaker 3: else is just it's a classic. Man.
Speaker 2: I consider that a classic.
Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. So you picked both? No?
Speaker 4: No, I picked h sol on ice Okay, okay mm
Speaker 4: hmm ice Cuban scarface.
Speaker 3: That's a fund up thing now, somebody, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Truly And I heard you switch.
Speaker 1: I heard you say that before you pick it that
Speaker 1: you think ice Cube was officially the first Liverpool absolute
Speaker 1: West Coast.
Speaker 3: No, he's the first lyricist, so the West America's most
Speaker 3: I know you live in both worlds. Like I've been
Speaker 3: to La New York. What would you put though?
Speaker 2: Because I'm not even thinking about the timeline, So.
Speaker 4: Think about America's most.
Speaker 2: King T too, though I feel like King T was
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm being unfair.
Speaker 3: I never even thought about that. And King T is
Speaker 3: legendary and one of my favorite rappers. I think I
Speaker 3: think I used to. So there's there's different components to this.
Speaker 3: Some people are dope rappers. I think Biz Markey was dope.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I think some people are stylistic. I'm trying to think
Speaker 3: of somebody that just had amazing and peccable styles. Yeah
Speaker 3: that was easy, that was long hanging truth. But some
Speaker 3: people are lyricists. Rock Cam to God is a lyricist.
Speaker 2: Wordsmiths.
Speaker 3: You know, you can type it out and read it.
Speaker 3: It'll fuck your head up. And that's the difference. See
Speaker 3: some of you know, most people are programmed because it's
Speaker 3: music that you're going by what you hear, and then
Speaker 3: now it's so fucked up you're going by what you
Speaker 3: see as opposed to what you hear. It's music, not
Speaker 3: my video, now, what I look like, not who I'm
Speaker 3: down with. It's just music at its purest distilled form.
Speaker 3: What is this motherfucker saying? I don't care who made
Speaker 3: the beat. That's why now it's could wrap on fucking
Speaker 3: dog farts. I know he gonna say some shit, you understand,
Speaker 3: So for.
Speaker 2: Me that I don't want him rapping on dog.
Speaker 3: You know that people people would buy it if you
Speaker 3: get popular, though, put the coolest guy and let it
Speaker 3: be and they swear to god it was like and
Speaker 3: then't say you know so and so produced it.
Speaker 4: People are There's just.
Speaker 3: They respond to the worst in human stimuli, which is
Speaker 3: who did it isn't important. It's groupy mentality. I just
Speaker 3: for me. My love of the craft is about the craft,
Speaker 3: not who did it? Who he fucking? Where his bank
Speaker 3: account is? Where's these bars at? It's the only pure
Speaker 3: sport for me, Like I don't care, And the only
Speaker 3: other sport like this is mm a boxer, one man
Speaker 3: walk in, one man walk out, who spit period? Everything
Speaker 3: else is always like who helped me? Like like niggas
Speaker 3: be lying about the bar game. People lie about like
Speaker 3: if you got to lie about not writing your wrap,
Speaker 3: We're playing a different sport, which is kind of where
Speaker 3: we're at with this. It became more of a show
Speaker 3: about look at me, as opposed to like listen to
Speaker 3: what I have to say. I want to hear about
Speaker 3: nor when he's a nigga gonna run in component or
Speaker 3: seeing in bar report, I want to hear what that
Speaker 3: shit steal to me, and I think if we back
Speaker 3: to the craft of it, we're gonna get in a
Speaker 3: better space.
Speaker 5: You're talking about Cub, but it made me think that
Speaker 5: looking back at Cube when he left in w A,
Speaker 5: it was pure genius to do jacking for beats because
Speaker 5: it showcased his vocals, his lyricism on these tracks that were.
Speaker 4: Out the East coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it showcased him in a way that
Speaker 2: you're like, yo, you couldn't deny him on any coast, right, well,
Speaker 2: every so did you pick like I didn't?
Speaker 3: Cube? I didn't.
Speaker 4: I was that was different?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did it? I didn't.
Speaker 2: And when I told you, you thought about it even more.
Speaker 4: Right, No, you know what, I'm gonna go with c because.
Speaker 3: I mean King T has but Tila you yeah, you do,
Speaker 3: but Tila king Te King T.
Speaker 2: Because King T is snecessor he's alcoholics that I feel
Speaker 2: that leaders even goes to Kendrick. In my opinion, King
Speaker 2: T is King.
Speaker 3: T, so I can't take his stripes, but it's it's
Speaker 3: King T didn't come out before c Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: acting fool all facts, Yeah yeah, facts and facts, but
Speaker 3: took it to the world. I feel like King t Is.
Speaker 3: First of all, that's big bro legendary. I think my
Speaker 3: in my when I'm coming out in my era, my
Speaker 3: first lyricists to me America A nigga you love to
Speaker 3: hate ice Cube the n w A ship I was
Speaker 3: hearing and think about it. Back then in w A
Speaker 3: always had a posse song at the end with no hook,
Speaker 3: which was a spinner record. It's all the records, y'all
Speaker 3: would have you know what I'm saying. Like on proNT Like,
Speaker 3: it was always a posse cup where you burned down. No, look,
Speaker 3: niggas get it, get it off.
Speaker 4: So I mean drink chans. Fans know that I'm a
Speaker 4: cute fans. Yeah, so you picking though, No, I've been
Speaker 4: trying to.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 4: I was trying to see how drunk you were.
Speaker 2: So you I'm listening. Face. You can't take nothing away
Speaker 2: from Scarfau.
Speaker 3: That's one of the places to get He's the illness.
Speaker 3: I've never seen the man cry till I've seen the
Speaker 3: man die. I'm not taking the strikes. I'll do it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll do that.
Speaker 2: So they would do it too. They would take a
Speaker 2: shot for each other.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a funny scarface story.
Speaker 1: Like this is like my first solo, like like going
Speaker 1: out as a solo and you know, uh I believe
Speaker 1: uh dog just had hit number one.
Speaker 4: So I was a little gassed.
Speaker 1: I was a little gas, right, So the promoter was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I want you to close. I knew I should have
Speaker 1: said I knew I should have said no when I
Speaker 1: was gassed.
Speaker 4: So I went out. Boy, when I tell you, where
Speaker 4: are you at this Vegas?
Speaker 3: You can't. You could have wear no. It was not
Speaker 3: a good look for me, man like, because to go on,
Speaker 3: I never see the yo. I was like, yo, I
Speaker 3: wanted to give the money back. I don't want to
Speaker 3: go after this. I got a good story. This goes
Speaker 3: back to Biggie. Okay, I only met Biggie once. Okay,
Speaker 3: I forgot where we were at.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was.
Speaker 3: I think when you said Vegas, but I know it
Speaker 3: wasn't Vegas. It might've been San Diego for some reason.
Speaker 3: It was something big in Dango and at the time,
Speaker 3: it's flavoring your ear.
Speaker 4: Biggie just came out remix remix, remix.
Speaker 3: But I think Biggie's album is out now. He's dropped
Speaker 3: at least singles in came, I get booked, and uh
Speaker 3: I am apparently possibly uh whatever, there's somebody some I'm
Speaker 3: like one person, it's me, then somebody in Big. The
Speaker 3: niggas just probably drop Juicy. I think it's like album
Speaker 3: may not be out. It's just like Juicy dropped and
Speaker 3: I gotta go on.
Speaker 1: Then somebody and you know who Big is at the time,
Speaker 1: absolutely okay, Yeah, he's all over the even on the
Speaker 1: mixing before he dropped, it was right right right.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but he already got to play yeah ship
Speaker 3: the Juicy ship already popping in l A on.
Speaker 4: The wesdayay to people.
Speaker 3: Didn't hear unbelievable all year? No? Hell no, they didn't
Speaker 3: play it in LA. Really, I brought it was huge.
Speaker 3: That's why I was saying. I was upset because I
Speaker 3: heard that on the mixtape, just like Raise Hell from
Speaker 3: m O P. They never played that in l A.
Speaker 3: I bought MP's album for Raised Hell. Remember them niggas
Speaker 3: with the biggest but long show. Be sure I'm getting on.
Speaker 3: I'm like a great you know what I'm saying, get
Speaker 3: on my spot, give you a little money. I remember
Speaker 3: the like he got double book, so Big, I'm gone
Speaker 3: now I'm like, yeah, he should going after me though,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean like he should go after me
Speaker 3: because I should go on before him. He gets to
Speaker 3: call an audible. He got double book, which is always
Speaker 3: a win when you in town and somebody throw you
Speaker 3: another bag. He was like, yeah, I'm gonna go on,
Speaker 3: and I remember this nigga just destroys it because I
Speaker 3: mean he's got hits. He's already got you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, He's already got previous hits, right, Uh, he
Speaker 3: can do the flavor remix again. And then he crushed it.
Speaker 3: And I remember I was walking out and they said,
Speaker 3: have a good show. I'm like, bro, in my brain,
Speaker 3: I'm like thanks. I was like, man, fuck you, bro,
Speaker 3: I do not want to go on after this.
Speaker 4: This is all, but you got to do it. I mean,
Speaker 4: he come to the other end.
Speaker 3: But I love that because part part of this ship
Speaker 3: is it's not really a chilling circuit. It's just like
Speaker 3: earning your stripes. And I never wanted to be the headliner.
Speaker 3: The only thing I ever wanted, honestly, Nori, I wanted
Speaker 3: to be the friend next to the most popular people
Speaker 3: person you knew. I never wanted to be the dude
Speaker 3: because the targets on you. I always wanted to be
Speaker 3: the homie next to that way, I can't get mine
Speaker 3: if the homie get eight hundred thousand and I can
Speaker 3: get three hundred thousand, why am I complaining that's all
Speaker 3: I want? If I ain't do that on a tour,
Speaker 3: I'm good most niggas get, but my strategy was great.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the execution part was not right.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to be that nigga, even though
Speaker 3: I feel like I borrowed most of these niggas. I
Speaker 3: never wanted to be the most important because that's ego shit.
Speaker 3: I know I'm great at what I do. I know
Speaker 3: i'm a great part. I just want my bag, bro,
Speaker 3: without the fuckery. And I know everybody be looking at
Speaker 3: the main niggas. I never wanted to be the band guy. Good.
Speaker 4: I'm still If you answered I did.
Speaker 3: Few no no no, I said, oh yeah, no he
Speaker 3: did it? I did? Did I threw you off? I
Speaker 3: did the shot I did. Remember if I tricked him
Speaker 3: w or n w A trying to trick this again? Buddy,
Speaker 3: I told you, I told you I wanted all the
Speaker 3: smoke with you. I was trying to break the system.
Speaker 3: This is my this is my fun time. I'm missing too.
Speaker 3: Let's see, that's unfair to me. So yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna do it. Are you ready?
Speaker 4: I think, don't sinan against me.
Speaker 2: I'm drinking though I'm drinking. Gang Star Eric being rock Him,
Speaker 2: I would say, rest the piece.
Speaker 4: Of gurule Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go a gangs star with all
Speaker 3: due respect?
Speaker 5: Was that because you had more of a connection, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because I see you more like Rock Him being more
Speaker 5: of an influence than you know, because of course.
Speaker 4: The god is the god.
Speaker 3: But like I said, when I was a kid, like,
Speaker 3: I lost a record deal, so I was gonna get signed.
Speaker 3: I'll be Tommy Boy, all that tretching him. I knew
Speaker 3: everybody a Tommy Boy because of Coolie on him. I
Speaker 3: came out of Juvenile Hall. Wow, and I had a
Speaker 3: demo before I went to Juvenile Hall. My record deal
Speaker 3: went to far side. I've been really good at what
Speaker 3: I do for a long time. I just was trying
Speaker 3: to find myself. I said, your record went to the side.
Speaker 4: My record deal went to the far side.
Speaker 2: That would have been your record deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wow. Paul Stewart now Rosenberg. Paul Stewart managed me.
Speaker 3: I brought far Side to store. It's my I'm in
Speaker 3: this situation so for me. But when you're young, you
Speaker 3: feel like you'll get a million options and a million opportunities.
Speaker 3: So I just, uh, I didn't realize how valuable time
Speaker 3: is because you're young, Like, I don't care whatever. At
Speaker 3: least I wasn't hateful or hurtful. I help my friends,
Speaker 3: So I helped far Aside, and I help so and
Speaker 3: so meanwhile I'm still trying to find myself. I go,
Speaker 3: fuck off, I go, you know, put myself in juvenile
Speaker 3: hall and all this other shit. So, uh, yeah, what
Speaker 3: the fuck were you doing that? He was getting jew
Speaker 3: and all this shit. You're stupid. I mean, well, I'm
Speaker 3: not you when you're I'm in LA. My friends are
Speaker 3: gang members. My friends do all kind of shit. If
Speaker 3: they say slapping with the with the hammer, I'm slapping
Speaker 3: them with that.
Speaker 2: You were a gang banger without being a gang member.
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Yeah? Sometimes, and then the other thing
Speaker 3: is if you get caught, then you get caught, right.
Speaker 3: And then the only person I would tell was my mother,
Speaker 3: So I would tell her like, hey, this is what happened.
Speaker 3: That's side from that. You take it to the box.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so even to this day, that was
Speaker 3: the rules, like if you do some function.
Speaker 4: With your friends. I remember my mom said, your friends.
Speaker 3: Always get you in trouble. I was like, Mom, get
Speaker 3: it fucked up. It's my did sometimes like I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie to you, like of course I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: the police that I'm innocent. And then they asked me
Speaker 3: who it was and I'd be like, I don't know anybody,
Speaker 3: so I'm always at fault. You got to take the
Speaker 3: par for the course if you want to be out
Speaker 3: here and try to figure out everything that we have
Speaker 3: to learn. Sometimes we're harder headed. Friends try to tell
Speaker 3: you things, parents try to tell you things. I've learned
Speaker 3: more most things. I've realized that I have to learn
Speaker 3: how to be me. Nobody else can teach me how
Speaker 3: to be me. I have to go out here and
Speaker 3: go experience it. At least now I can speak on
Speaker 3: it and get that are at myself. Yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 3: Mature words mantle Yeah.
Speaker 4: Mob deep or e pm D.
Speaker 3: Well, that's not that hard. But toalude to e P
Speaker 3: M D Mob deep fan. Come on, man, they was
Speaker 3: drinking the Hennessy cups. I was a little nigga the
Speaker 3: same age. I'm thinking a lot of ways. If it
Speaker 3: wasn't the E P M D would be a mob D.
Speaker 3: I totally respected Long Island, the Queens. I'm a big
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. But for me, that like I remember,
Speaker 3: I remember you and ol hell I bought that album.
Speaker 3: I was a kid. I bought that. Yeah, like that
Speaker 3: was that was the homies bro like, which is crazy
Speaker 3: as uh even you know me and p ended up.
Speaker 3: We ended up blocking in a little bit more. Initially,
Speaker 3: when Pete got out of prison, I got another good
Speaker 3: story for you. Okay, he gets out of prison. He's
Speaker 3: in Hollywood and he's like, yo, come here. I'm like
Speaker 3: what yo, come here. I'm like, okay, next like big party,
Speaker 3: it's your party. Like it gets far and goes back.
Speaker 3: He pulls out when I'm about to pull out, but
Speaker 3: he got tossed, okay. He like so when he went
Speaker 3: to prison, he started smoking tops. That's tobacco, right, tobacco?
Speaker 3: What is that organic? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it's British.
Speaker 3: I'm britsh is whatshri y? Okay yeah, I want to
Speaker 3: be a cowboy, could be a cowboy. But yeah, that
Speaker 3: it was super funny. So I remember he was like, yo,
Speaker 3: done when you was you know what I'm saying. Ever
Speaker 3: since I met you, I always was trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what the fuck is wrong with you? Because you
Speaker 3: be browing these little packs. I was like ships fire.
Speaker 3: So we actually ate the like at the end, like
Speaker 3: the last like five years, like Pete was smoking smoking
Speaker 3: tops because in New York, y'all smoked tops.
Speaker 4: We smoked beautiful. Okay, yeah, so that was that. That
Speaker 4: was is that supposed to be healthier.
Speaker 3: It's all funked up, but okay, it's better than like
Speaker 3: a bogie, like yeah, think about the piperglass in it.
Speaker 4: Yes, the tobacco is healthier.
Speaker 3: It's a better tobacco. They have different brands like but
Speaker 3: when you go to you you tore the same difference
Speaker 3: like that. But I don't like the filters on them
Speaker 3: because it's fiberglass. So I'd rather just get tobacco. I
Speaker 3: used to smoke beadies. Yes, amazing, it was, but you
Speaker 3: got a head as soon as he said that.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 3: That they.
Speaker 2: Is healthy, right, Tobacco is healthy? Well, this is what
Speaker 2: you know, the internet is crazy. Everything is backwards, forward
Speaker 2: and top. But now they're saying, if you think about it,
Speaker 2: and the Native Americans used to smoke tobacco, and and
Speaker 2: now they're saying, the only reason tobacco got got dangerous
Speaker 2: for our they put the filters with all the ship
Speaker 2: in the nicotine and all the crap like that.
Speaker 3: It's fact. So well it's not facts. I can't actually
Speaker 3: do it, but think about it. Every time government wants
Speaker 3: to regulate they add ship. Think about it. Coaina, No,
Speaker 3: it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, cocaine was originally was a medicine before it.
Speaker 3: Was what what times I was being killing America synthetic
Speaker 3: when they do it, when they do it, they make
Speaker 3: the fuck the version. They outlawed the natural to create
Speaker 3: an unnatural to tax.
Speaker 2: Sho like like you know how we talk about they
Speaker 2: are playing stage stuff and we're wondering if stage does
Speaker 2: anything they said Supposedly scientists found out that sage that
Speaker 2: smoke actually clears out certain bacteria.
Speaker 3: People have been on this fucking why. I don't trust
Speaker 3: the government. I trust people's cultures.
Speaker 5: Old cultures way older and more ancient than our modern
Speaker 5: day pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 3: They were called from DA Drugs.
Speaker 4: They're the drug dealer, all right.
Speaker 2: But we didn't say it. Please relax, buddies.
Speaker 3: So that's the last.
Speaker 1: We go back to an interview. Absolutely, Uh, loyalty or respect.
Speaker 3: Loving? Right, I'm unlathy. Tell me why respect has gotten
Speaker 3: me where it's gotten me, but loalty would have gotten
Speaker 3: me more. I think when people are loyal to a cause,
Speaker 3: you can accomplish more. People respect because they have to.
Speaker 3: Lowty is given good yea, And I'm gonna take a piss.
Speaker 1: That's all right, So let's get into the new album. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: let's let's get into the track list.
Speaker 3: What's the track?
Speaker 4: Let's at you want to look at the track?
Speaker 3: It's hard to read that ship. To read that ship,
Speaker 3: it's not a vinyl. That's just funked up. Okay, who
Speaker 3: asked me? Just ask me a question.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, how did how did this come about?
Speaker 3: You? You were not trying to get people to read this, bro?
Speaker 3: Let me see let me see if it's not gonna
Speaker 3: ask me about the back cover. Okay, this is this
Speaker 3: is the No, that's the okay, asked me about the
Speaker 3: back Oh my god, don't you know that picture.
Speaker 4: No, you know that picture. Let me see letie you.
Speaker 3: Know I just tried to do let me young people
Speaker 3: will do a big cutout so you can see it.
Speaker 3: You know this picture? You know this picture. It is
Speaker 3: a fucking iconic picture. I just fucked it up on
Speaker 3: some brazil this ship purposely for fun. Do I have
Speaker 3: to tell you what the picture is?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 3: You do? And Vibe magazine there was a very and
Speaker 3: then it went viral. Back in the day when Kanye
Speaker 3: was walking in Paris before the song Niggas in Paris
Speaker 3: and he's walking with these people. Now what here's the
Speaker 3: rub here is I knew the dude on the left.
Speaker 3: We grew up together. So it's a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: kids with the same kind of names. There was a tags,
Speaker 3: there was a rash, there was a task. There was
Speaker 3: a tash, but that's task Tisa, tas Arnold will signing
Speaker 3: Kanye whatever. And then one of these people happens to
Speaker 3: be and this picture. So it's very iconic picture. They
Speaker 3: were in Paris with some real fancy schmancy and I
Speaker 3: remember I was just coming out of jail and I
Speaker 3: was like wow, And so I thought the picture was
Speaker 3: super iconic. The bar is also if you pay attention,
Speaker 3: they was on some super high fashion, high money ship
Speaker 3: the brand. If you pay attention to the brand that
Speaker 3: they're wearing. No, poor people could recognize the brand that
Speaker 3: they were wearing. So I realized, niggas be ahead of
Speaker 3: the curb. Sometimes you're behind the curve. So what I
Speaker 3: did was because I knew the dude on the left
Speaker 3: and he was my I grew up with this particular
Speaker 3: person on the picture. No, I changed the face. I
Speaker 3: put Jaguar right, which is it's hilarious. So it's hilarious
Speaker 3: celebrities face. And I keep doing shit, i'd said, I griselded, Yes,
Speaker 3: I am. I don't add for permission.
Speaker 2: I asked forgive.
Speaker 3: Taking taks Arnold's face and it's hilarious, so inside joke,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask. It's so funny to me, so waiting
Speaker 3: for tasks to get mad at me. I said I
Speaker 3: would ask for permission. I know, I said, I asked
Speaker 3: for forgiveness. I don't ask for permission. So I took
Speaker 3: the iconic picture and I made it work for my
Speaker 3: construct because he because task was wearing those pants and
Speaker 3: what we grew up. So those pants, that's real in
Speaker 3: the picture. That's his pants. Jesus Christmas, and no judgment here, sir.
Speaker 3: People could be who they want to be and they
Speaker 3: can express themselves. Anyway. I did that, and then I
Speaker 3: just showed it to a few of our friends that
Speaker 3: we have mutual friends. I was like, are you going
Speaker 3: to show it to the task? I was like, never
Speaker 3: in life, I'm going to do it because it was
Speaker 3: already in every magazine. It's fucking to the world. I'm
Speaker 3: just change his face and everybody else will just blur
Speaker 3: out their fucking faces because it's Leberty's face. He had
Speaker 3: the fucking leopard pants. Fucking run the play. So I
Speaker 3: ran the play. So I think the back cover it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: I think it's totally funny. That's my personality type. And yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the shirt I'm wearing. So again, it looks better
Speaker 3: on the shirt for some. I mean it's smaller, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, There's only so much you can
Speaker 3: fit on a two inch. Yeah, and this is what
Speaker 3: the vinyl looks like and all kind of cool ships.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so yeah, Leberty's face. It was fun to
Speaker 3: do it. Kanye, if I piss off Kanye, so be it.
Speaker 3: I got the track list, by the way, Oh you
Speaker 3: got it?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So what what questions?
Speaker 4: Okay I wanted that. Now there's a different question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go on into the album every question.
Speaker 3: If you do it? I heard I told you I'm here.
Speaker 3: I'm just here to get him. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I heard you say so where that Steve Riffkin wanted
Speaker 1: to sign you to loud Bar So I didn't know,
Speaker 1: but my, uh what what life would have been like
Speaker 1: if you was out man, I don't want.
Speaker 4: To cook it shulda Would I be rich?
Speaker 3: I would have been?
Speaker 4: Well that was that was the label.
Speaker 3: He only told me.
Speaker 2: That was that when he was looking at exhibit after exhibit.
Speaker 3: How was that? This is?
Speaker 4: This is what he told me.
Speaker 3: Uh we were this is I want to say, like
Speaker 3: during the end of COVID and what was that ship
Speaker 3: where everybody was talking on and just talking clubhouse clubhouse
Speaker 3: which I lasted all of one day. We run a
Speaker 3: clubhouse thing. And he said, you're the only person I
Speaker 3: ever tried to sign that didn't sign me. And I said,
Speaker 3: you never tried to sign me. And then he said
Speaker 3: that's not true. I made you an offer. And then
Speaker 3: I said when and I had I know who tried
Speaker 3: to that. I knew try to sign the deal. Well,
Speaker 3: I knew who tried to sign me. Chris Lightning brought
Speaker 3: me to New York for Death Jam. I was able
Speaker 3: to walk around. And you know any rappers dream in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety mid five Death Jam, I had, I had,
Speaker 3: I think now was hotter than Death Jam in ninety five,
Speaker 3: me saying, just hear me out, Okay, I didn't know
Speaker 3: was it an come on to ninety seven. What what
Speaker 3: I'm saying is it's not on the table for me.
Speaker 3: I know who Priorty Records has given me an option.
Speaker 3: Death Jam gives me an option death American, which is
Speaker 3: Rick Rubin. Rick Rubin used to pick me up in
Speaker 3: Carson Wow and a Rose Royce left jas. He created
Speaker 3: the American, but it was death American. Then he became American.
Speaker 4: He used to pick shoes. When he picked you up
Speaker 4: in a.
Speaker 3: Bentley, he looked like Santa Claus and he probably looked
Speaker 3: it probably looked really crazy, this little black kid getting
Speaker 3: in the tribut Christ. It probably look great, right, But
Speaker 3: he would give me. He would he would pick me up.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get off track, I'll land this plane.
Speaker 3: But he would pick me, pick me up and give
Speaker 3: me demos of unberleased Beastie Boys in ll cool J
Speaker 3: record Wow Wow.
Speaker 4: Invested in me, believed.
Speaker 3: In me, which is why I did the song with
Speaker 3: Chino Excel recipes because I didn't sign to him and
Speaker 3: it was one other option. So I had four like
Speaker 3: a bidding more. You know what that is. You know
Speaker 3: what that is. So I had a bitting more. I
Speaker 3: never heard loud because I would have just picked out.
Speaker 3: So when Rifkins said that to me, I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like whatever, it's only like
Speaker 3: four or five years ago. It's like, you're the only
Speaker 3: artist that never signed me that I made an offer for.
Speaker 3: I said, well, lies you tell. I'm like, bro, you
Speaker 3: ain't never gave me no offer. He's like, no, I
Speaker 3: gave an offer and d D da da da. I
Speaker 3: was like, bro, I never heard that. I would have
Speaker 3: took less money and signed to you. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I know who didn't tell me because
Speaker 3: they wanted the money. The production company, the production we're
Speaker 3: going to get somewhere else. We got more money, but
Speaker 3: the production company that didn't produce shit wanted money. They're
Speaker 3: gonna hold you out. That's what the artist is. Ultimately,
Speaker 3: you didn't produce nothing. You just wanted what you wanted
Speaker 3: and fucked over mind. Yeah, if I would have had
Speaker 3: that object, what could have been? To be honest, it
Speaker 3: was before exhibit, that's what he told me for exhibit.
Speaker 3: But after the lis Yeah, of course the licks were
Speaker 3: the like through King t then the licks, and then
Speaker 3: I was you know, I had had an opportunity. I
Speaker 3: came back out that was doing well and then he
Speaker 3: and obviously what could have been? But yeah, my mama
Speaker 3: was my daddy.
Speaker 5: I mean, because imagine the alcoholics, you and Exhibit all
Speaker 5: together on loud on.
Speaker 3: That well, just think about Rizza is the first person
Speaker 3: that clears my first white label because we wanted to sell.
Speaker 4: It, right, Uh, was your first white label?
Speaker 3: My first white label ever put out. I sampled method man,
Speaker 3: you don't know me, you don't know my style. It's
Speaker 3: called remain Anonymous that I produced it, and then the
Speaker 3: B side was a song called Won't Catch Me Running.
Speaker 3: But then it was doing well and it was like
Speaker 3: we should try to sell it, so we had to
Speaker 3: clear the sample. Is a clear the sample. We're the
Speaker 3: first people that ever sampled boutang that cleared it. Because
Speaker 3: Rizza was like, I fucked with Rass and I credit
Speaker 3: kill a priest, kill a priest. We're kind of in
Speaker 3: that same bracket of you know, the year we come
Speaker 3: out or we're starting to pop priests, put Rizza on
Speaker 3: the RASS cast, and then Rizza always fucked with me
Speaker 3: to this day, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm very blessed because I had people interceding and saying
Speaker 3: like brow a good nigga or bros talented and he
Speaker 3: ain't a fuck boy or whatever. So yeah, but if
Speaker 3: I would have signed it loud, yeah what could have been?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Too late now unless you unless you know how to
Speaker 3: do DC universe. Yeah, that guy has loud that guys
Speaker 3: like fucking rich and awful person. Do you get mad him?
Speaker 3: We're gonna make it.
Speaker 4: That was a good question. No, No, here here's the truth.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say this as politically correct as possible.
Speaker 3: I've never had a problem with Jada. I'm a fan.
Speaker 3: I saw Jada and them. I remember when the clips
Speaker 3: was doing. This was in Puerto Rico. What happened to
Speaker 3: that boy? That was the first time I had seen
Speaker 3: Jada in like years, I remember, and I was like, nah,
Speaker 3: I don't have an issue. And now, to make a
Speaker 3: very convoluted story simple, me and Al we've had our
Speaker 3: conversation and ship I have a party called five Mics
Speaker 3: that for the culture, trying to do the unity thing
Speaker 3: and bringing you know, LA hip hop culture back together, black, brown, yellow, white, green,
Speaker 3: male female whatever. So now I saw him at I
Speaker 3: saw him in nash It was the mob deeper part. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in La and so Al came up and actually I
Speaker 3: did the fun thing. He's like photographs because it wasn't
Speaker 3: a lot of us upstairs. And then I was just like,
Speaker 3: what up, nigga?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I even call him the nigga.
Speaker 4: I was like, what up niggas?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's like, man, I want
Speaker 3: to do the find mics. I was like, yeah, let's
Speaker 3: do it, and he's like, let's cook. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's do it. So we let's talk it to a misunderstanding.
Speaker 3: Al was super talented. I can't take from somebody but
Speaker 3: God gave you know what I'm saying, or they're hard work,
Speaker 3: same thing. I'm ready to move forward, and I think
Speaker 3: the record, I'm not stand on this.
Speaker 4: My record.
Speaker 3: Is not a two track, it's the files. My verses
Speaker 3: are dope, We're gonna make it. It's icond of it
Speaker 3: was there already, No no, no no, because there's mine
Speaker 3: is Home Sweet Home right Well, I did it with
Speaker 3: Starringbuck Wilde and performed it. It's on Case Slave mixtape.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to get into those weeds because
Speaker 3: then it becomes defense mechanism. I think Alice dope, we
Speaker 3: had a misunderstanding. We move on. I want to do
Speaker 3: a song with me and him called Barry the Hatchet
Speaker 3: and he was like, Yo, we should cook. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's cook. Let's move forward. And on No Days Off
Speaker 3: we had did a record on his album. We did
Speaker 3: a song where we killed it. We had so much fun.
Speaker 3: So I don't want to live in the past. I
Speaker 3: think what Styles and Jada did is amazing and two
Speaker 3: things can coexist at the same time. So great record.
Speaker 3: My album didn't even come out. My album on the
Speaker 3: label didn't come out. That would have been on Van
Speaker 3: go it would have been on Mango. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: my album because of my label ship. So at least
Speaker 3: the wait that album came out, it never came out,
Speaker 3: never came out. I put it out later. Thanks for
Speaker 3: telling my inemigo. Yeah, we had, we had physical copies
Speaker 3: of this, like with the artwork. But that's when Capital
Speaker 3: was getting bought, was buying out the other half. All right, Well,
Speaker 3: at the time Priorti was independent and then Brian Turner
Speaker 3: owned fifty one percent. They bought him out and they
Speaker 3: got the other two percent, so he became forty nine
Speaker 3: and then they were making it Capital. They were like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna close down Priority and just make it Capitol Records.
Speaker 3: Only only a few people made that cut. It was
Speaker 3: like Snoop Dogg Me we got slid in with like
Speaker 3: Faith Evans whatever, so it was only like six artists.
Speaker 3: But you know that that was the whole journey. So
Speaker 3: my record didn't get promoted. And then we went in
Speaker 3: from Van Gold we went into Golden Child, So I
Speaker 3: took certain records off of here and then went into
Speaker 3: the Golden Child with Premiere and all that stuff. So
Speaker 3: it was just all this corporate ship and just trying
Speaker 3: to make it be okay. But ultimately my point is
Speaker 3: at least we're gonna make it exist and the ship fire?
Speaker 3: Is that the only record you did with Alchemists? No,
Speaker 3: I've done multiple records. Yeah, I'm known OWT for no
Speaker 3: I know. I just you guys make great. I've done
Speaker 3: songs with our since that. That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: he had an album called No Days Off when he's
Speaker 3: like DJM for eminem.
Speaker 4: So why does it feel like you guys just mended
Speaker 4: the beef.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go into that again. We are
Speaker 3: okay today. You guys are local man, well you know
Speaker 3: la ship, but my brother is talented. I want to
Speaker 3: I want to do a song called now you had.
Speaker 2: A project together, a whole project.
Speaker 3: Well put that in the universe.
Speaker 4: I think, don't come outside, We'll come outside.
Speaker 3: How come you know we never did one? Know?
Speaker 4: I thought that about I thought about that today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sound great together as well? That would be crazy.
Speaker 1: This is a part of the if we skipped on
Speaker 1: quick Time with Slim. What do you prefer being on
Speaker 1: a major or being independent?
Speaker 3: I already know, good question. No, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 3: about it. I want both there there we got to
Speaker 3: drink drink that.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: But we're gonna have to drink.
Speaker 1: Our beyond a label like Penalty Records. Wheah, like it
Speaker 1: had the minute of Tommy Boy. Right, Tommy Boy was
Speaker 1: at the distribution.
Speaker 3: They were a big Indie too. They were in India,
Speaker 3: is right, they were indied, they were a major. You're
Speaker 3: gonna manage it, well, you're gonna manage us getting some
Speaker 3: new record, sir.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, yes, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3: You ain't even got to deal with any more. Just
Speaker 3: go get us a bag.
Speaker 4: Answer though you both said, okay, okay, I want people
Speaker 4: don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want the major with the Shenanigans, and you
Speaker 3: think you're going to own the project. None of that,
Speaker 3: none of that ship. And nowadays these kids is getting
Speaker 3: these three sixty deals. They're totally replaceable. So no, like
Speaker 3: I bring something to the table, we have value. And then,
Speaker 3: especially as businessman like you start, you know, we start
Speaker 3: with a dream. They financed that. I respect that. I definitely, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course you want. I like getting per diems if
Speaker 3: you know, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't think that exists anymore. Man.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you some people stilly in per deems.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it does exist on the top top tier.
Speaker 3: You know, these young some of these people getting deals,
Speaker 3: but they just so the young kids only is uh
Speaker 3: he does tour manager man for major people, Chris Brown whatever, whatever,
Speaker 3: he's like the young the young ones, they just want
Speaker 3: to be on privates. They want a hotel in the private,
Speaker 3: right because they can say they was on a private right,
Speaker 3: private plane for people who do understand that they.
Speaker 1: Could be content by doing that though, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like no one gets on the private without.
Speaker 4: Filming it, right, all of them, all of them. It's
Speaker 4: for that stunt.
Speaker 3: It's funny. They're stunning there, but they're not like they're public.
Speaker 3: They don't care. They've kind of thrown away like their future.
Speaker 3: They're like, I want it now, like you're saying that commercial,
Speaker 3: it's my money and I want it now. It's not
Speaker 3: my money and I want it now, right, because how
Speaker 3: many people we've seen, you know, get a lot of
Speaker 3: money in where are they now? The motherfucker just right
Speaker 3: Like if I could have would have should have saved
Speaker 3: that fucking two hundred thousand dollars that I had when
Speaker 3: I bought all the Gucci shoes. That don't mean shitt right.
Speaker 3: So it's I want both, and it's okay to dream
Speaker 3: and want both or not dream to plan or strategize
Speaker 3: for it. I would like a small INDI with enough
Speaker 3: money to finance. I don't need a lot of upfront.
Speaker 3: I want you to make sure that you're going to
Speaker 3: support this project, and then when it's time to fucking
Speaker 3: move around.
Speaker 4: You're gonna help them.
Speaker 2: Has been that in your mind?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Braucus was always great and supportive of its artists.
Speaker 3: Look at how everybody landed. Quiley still do business with
Speaker 3: the owner of this you know, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, well, you know, having those kind of friends,
Speaker 3: it's never over. There's a few dope indie hip hop.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I love what they're doing
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 3: Like I said, mob D, Daylight, I said, I mentioned it,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love to find a home that gets it,
Speaker 3: allows you to be myself. I don't want to create
Speaker 3: the Chicken Dance or some other ship to try to
Speaker 3: get on. I'm not fourteen, I'm not I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: not no weird kid.
Speaker 5: But to see you on mass Appeal, yeah, I definitely
Speaker 5: could see you on that Legend Run they're doing, which
Speaker 5: I feel.
Speaker 3: They're gonna, Well, they don't have nobody from the West,
Speaker 3: so that.
Speaker 2: Was my didn't under that, no mass appeal ras cast
Speaker 2: the Legend Run.
Speaker 3: Well shit, I got a whole project. I'm promoting this.
Speaker 3: But me and Fred Row, well no, that already came out. Okay,
Speaker 3: we did that on a on another label, but unfortunately
Speaker 3: it didn't work out. But yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Me and Fred Row from Onix, we got a project.
Speaker 3: So we're called we West and East, so we collective.
Speaker 3: So I mean I'd love to place it and get
Speaker 3: a home.
Speaker 4: What made you uh do a whole project? We'll have it?
Speaker 4: And what you coultique as being the rest Coast artists working.
Speaker 3: With first of all my bros. Like I said, I
Speaker 3: was closer with Pe back then. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: just through the whole mob. These ship once once I
Speaker 3: got my deal and just knowing them. But uh, I
Speaker 3: want to say. I want to say before COVID, one
Speaker 3: time we were in Dallas and I got booked to host,
Speaker 3: he got booked to uh perform, and we were chilling
Speaker 3: and we like to say, yeah, all right, fucking I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you we're brothers. What that You don't know
Speaker 3: what this? You know never in life? So anyway, you
Speaker 3: know you got the same, you know what? You know
Speaker 3: what that ship?
Speaker 2: The bus you're on the bus.
Speaker 3: Most industry niggas is an Eskimo brother and what the
Speaker 3: hell you see the same? You didn't knock somebody that
Speaker 3: somebody else Now.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody ever put their release.
Speaker 3: About so anyway we've send there those guys. I know
Speaker 3: that was racist. I didn't make the term up real ship.
Speaker 3: So we anyway, we were sitting there talking, uh we
Speaker 3: we d t F. That was for Wark and like
Speaker 3: I said, always been a big fan, always been. Some
Speaker 3: people are like sooner than others.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That should be the name
Speaker 4: of the album, that'schooling brothers.
Speaker 3: Never in life people think, take a DNA test to
Speaker 3: see how many you see, how many see how much
Speaker 3: you live in Miami, how much come.
Speaker 7: Back into y'all? Yeah, yeah, right, Miami life after poor Ice.
Speaker 2: That goes well nowadays.
Speaker 3: Exactly worked well now. But I'm just saying so we
Speaker 3: Actually I had told him my thoughts. I was like
Speaker 3: peas gone and and I hope I'm saying this would
Speaker 3: all due respect and dignity. I was like, yo, pease gone.
Speaker 3: I was at the funeral and all you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because we were together the day Pee passed.
Speaker 3: I was in Vegas, right, I was in Vegas. He
Speaker 3: was on the water rap right exactly, wrap and so
Speaker 3: across the street. I see, yeah, so we were I
Speaker 3: forgot you were that yes, crazy on that bill. I
Speaker 3: was on the bill too.
Speaker 4: I wasn't on the bill. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: ONX brought me out. Ironically, ONX brought me out. I
Speaker 1: asked him to do with my food show, and they
Speaker 1: was like, yo, well if.
Speaker 4: I have a show tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Nay. It was super hot that day.
Speaker 1: It was super hot, and the green loss the street.
Speaker 1: I saw people as soon as he got stage right.
Speaker 3: So so when when pe got off stage, we went
Speaker 3: back into the green room, and then we all walked out.
Speaker 3: It's opposite way, so I don't feel like moving, But
Speaker 3: the point is it was opposite. So let's say this
Speaker 3: is the green room and that's the back of the
Speaker 3: stage across the street.
Speaker 4: We all walked out.
Speaker 3: He went that way into the suburban me and have
Speaker 3: walked up and back in and I think Ray and
Speaker 3: Ghost was that's crazy.
Speaker 1: You must have walked because he must have walked right
Speaker 1: by me and walked right into you. Because like, the
Speaker 1: only reason why I would have went backstage and I
Speaker 1: went backstage after well we'll have it. But the only
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't go because because I had.
Speaker 4: To perform it. Yeah, and I saw them too, yeah,
Speaker 4: because so.
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, I'm doing all this justice when
Speaker 3: I first walked into the green room, which was across
Speaker 3: the street, because I saw having pee, I saw ghosts
Speaker 3: from Ray and he was a little irritable, right, and uh,
Speaker 3: I thought he was like kind of upset, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I'm like, uh, not me, just
Speaker 3: you know, having a bad day. So what I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh what up?
Speaker 4: We all talking to ship.
Speaker 3: And then he says something about our homeboy forty block.
Speaker 3: He like this nigga is shot your sons, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Whatever, we got a mutual homeboy. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, bro, Like the nigga just keeps living. Bro,
Speaker 3: this is hilarricus. You know what I'm saying, Like this
Speaker 3: our homeboy, Like you can tell us to take care
Speaker 3: of himself. I'm like, bro, I'm gonna tell him whatever.
Speaker 3: And then uh, I remember they performed then came back
Speaker 3: and then I remember we're gonna walk and it was
Speaker 3: mostly in that green room at the time. It was
Speaker 3: maybe the five of us, and I was gonna get
Speaker 3: this picture. I was gonna be like, yo, let's flick
Speaker 3: it one time. And I was like, fuck it, I'll
Speaker 3: catch because I knew. I knew you know, it was
Speaker 3: still won't go on like I knew that. I think
Speaker 3: it was a Jersey show. Like two or three days later,
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck it, I'll just do another picture. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Plus he because he had said like, nah, it's my
Speaker 3: single Seales ship. You're like this shit fucking hot is
Speaker 3: fucking with my sickle cells. So I'm like cool, like
Speaker 3: let it go. And we walked across me, have walked
Speaker 3: up pe In, a security guard walked that way, and
Speaker 3: we just never saw him again, and so you just
Speaker 3: never know, well, you know, for me, it really was
Speaker 3: one of them times where like somebody I really genuinely
Speaker 3: first of all, just growing up looking up, like we say,
Speaker 3: age bracket, but I'm a fan, I'm a brother. I
Speaker 3: would hope saw me as a friend, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So that ship is important. Like all the
Speaker 3: hype and hoopla shit don't mean shit like to me
Speaker 3: if it ain't genuine. Some people fake love you and like,
Speaker 3: I really love bro. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: that's my bro. To fast forward and tell something about
Speaker 3: what happened with me and Habit. We were in Dallas
Speaker 3: and my whole shit was like I don't want I
Speaker 3: was like, Pee can't be replaced, Prodigy cannot be replaced.
Speaker 3: I was like, but you got them beats. So I said,
Speaker 3: find you find somebody not from Queens, find the East
Speaker 3: Coast nigga, so at least we get you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying that shit like I need my fix on
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But it can't be the comparison.
Speaker 3: You can't replace Pete. That's my nigga. You like, it
Speaker 3: ain't gonna never be no Mob Deep bro, like Mob
Speaker 3: Deeper y'all niggas. But find me some give me that vehicle,
Speaker 3: that kind of music to hear, that type.
Speaker 2: Of shit, the energy, the same energy right because you're.
Speaker 3: Sitting on you cooking. You know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: so we talked about it. I remember we talked about
Speaker 3: it and then fast forward like three years later, having
Speaker 3: dorm hit me like, what's up? All right, well, we
Speaker 3: need the East Coast nigga. That's why the r J
Speaker 3: pain guy. I was like, fuck it, Well, why don't
Speaker 3: we just do that because it ain't no comparison. We
Speaker 3: just want the production we and then we're gonna honor Pee.
Speaker 3: So our job is to be there and be our brother.
Speaker 3: One of the songs is on on on that Havoc album.
Speaker 3: It's called the Gutter see U T t R so
Speaker 3: Mob Deep. It's still in that same vein. Were just
Speaker 3: trying to honor. Can't replaced. Just I'm a West Coast nigga.
Speaker 3: I'm my own MC. But really this is because I
Speaker 3: just want to I want to make sure this's Mob
Speaker 3: Deep like legacy. So we got we got a song
Speaker 3: on one where it's too prodigy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it ain't no fake ass. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Niggas be want fake homages, Niggas get tattoos. The niggas
Speaker 3: they ain't never mad. Niggas is super fake. They should
Speaker 3: be corny. A ship like I knew, bro, so our
Speaker 3: heart was right. We did a good job. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think what we did for the Gutter album is a
Speaker 3: great honor. And that was when they were still trying
Speaker 3: to get everything in order with the family. And this
Speaker 3: new Mob album is is incredible. I hope I hope
Speaker 3: they can create enough more because Mob deep forever for me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, people, my homie, have my homie.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love I love my brother me and you got
Speaker 1: the same story basically, yeah, like there basically he basically
Speaker 1: walked by me to walk You're giving us the story
Speaker 1: before the story in Yeah, that's just that's that.
Speaker 3: I got family. Ye, what do you what do you like?
Speaker 3: What do you like more?
Speaker 4: Making the record, performing a record?
Speaker 3: Two different animals. I love the creatives. I love sitting
Speaker 3: there and like being with the producer and being with
Speaker 3: the people like that ship the animals crazy. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because I remember Doctor Dre saying like
Speaker 3: throw it against the wall of his stick and stick.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like it's cool to make
Speaker 3: something and think it's cool until your homies come in
Speaker 3: and be like no. But if they're dope people, they
Speaker 3: can tell you why. Right, So I might make some
Speaker 3: ship and then the homies like Trump's whack like, well,
Speaker 3: then fix them. See I like people I can talk
Speaker 3: to like that, like fucking fix it. Then so with
Speaker 3: FN if he's like I don't like them, drums, fucking
Speaker 3: fix it? Has it? It's fixed them fucks. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, But do it, don't just say like it,
Speaker 3: like fix it. And then when your homies go in
Speaker 3: and fix it, that's his fire, like, oh shit, this
Speaker 3: should went up, bro, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: the creative process is a beautiful experience. I'm not a
Speaker 3: I'm not God man. We made an image and likeness.
Speaker 3: I am God because whatever God. But and the physical
Speaker 3: sense of the ultimate, the closest creation experiment that I
Speaker 3: can do is whether I'm a painter or I'm a
Speaker 3: builder or whatever, is to create something. And so I
Speaker 3: love being in that. But the other part is I
Speaker 3: do like actually showing off the thing, right because now
Speaker 3: I get to do it to somebody like pause, I
Speaker 3: get to I get to perform something. Well, I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: I get to perform in front of people, and sometimes like,
Speaker 3: there's been many a times where I'm just like, there's
Speaker 3: one person that's fitting my fucking bars to me, and
Speaker 3: I'm like looking at the person, like this motherfucker know
Speaker 3: this shit, like like he wrote it or she wrote it.
Speaker 3: I'm like that energy. It makes me double up, like
Speaker 3: fuck that I'm a really do a great job. Jay
Speaker 3: Zu used to say a thing one or one million.
Speaker 3: The whole point was if you have a show and
Speaker 3: only one person showed up, would you have ass You're
Speaker 3: not supposed to. If only one person showed up to
Speaker 3: your show, they deserve for you to give a one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. If a million people show up, give one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. So I love both, and then I also like,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I like money you've made that.
Speaker 3: I like when people show up. I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 3: got some money in the creative process, I'm spending money.
Speaker 3: I can't beat this motherfucker. This is a lyric phone
Speaker 3: versus the one bro. Can you turn this off? I
Speaker 3: love you, brother, I love you. Yes.
Speaker 1: Have you ever performed the overseas and realize these people
Speaker 1: that know your words don't even speak English?
Speaker 4: Absolutely that ship is the way that still know what's.
Speaker 3: The most locals apostles calling you. Look, we're gonna pick
Speaker 3: this ship up. I love this show.
Speaker 4: Better give us.
Speaker 3: The rest. I'm kidding. I forgot me.
Speaker 4: Down on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to tell this there's yeah, I say,
Speaker 2: hold nobody out.
Speaker 4: There and see.
Speaker 3: You should not. I don't know what is happening, Like
Speaker 3: I know, this is some fucking Shenanigans.
Speaker 2: Here, man, take your.
Speaker 3: God things.
Speaker 2: Emento just killed you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's gonna be awesome. Thank he's never
Speaker 3: coming back. It's over. My Departsits fun.
Speaker 1: God, come down, God says, I want you to make
Speaker 1: one record that change the world, and you getting one feature.
Speaker 4: Now, this is a two part question.
Speaker 3: I like this.
Speaker 1: Alrighty you get, you get, get you get. You can
Speaker 1: make two records, one with a person that has passed
Speaker 1: away and one what a person now, okay, is a
Speaker 1: living Who's the producer? Who's going to be the producer
Speaker 1: those two records?
Speaker 3: I like this question.
Speaker 4: I want to take this extremely serious. Look.
Speaker 3: So so one part is you get a passed away
Speaker 3: producer and a present producer. Right, I want to guys,
Speaker 3: take this.
Speaker 1: Piece and I passed away artist and artist.
Speaker 3: Now, but this this is who's going to produce it?
Speaker 4: Who's going to produce it for you? You get to
Speaker 4: pick it any producer?
Speaker 3: A man, Okay, I wanted to do before and after.
Speaker 3: All Right, you're gonna have to drinkle with me the
Speaker 3: way it turns out, Lady of the Lady of the Jamie,
Speaker 3: I don't know her name. Oh that's my little sister's
Speaker 3: middle name.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Michelle, we forgot Oh wait, wait, we're sorry.
Speaker 2: Man, No, don't believe his own name.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, sorry, Yeah, So that feature I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3: This is a producer, right, I'm gonna go producer first.
Speaker 3: That's a hard dig because one alright, fuck it. I
Speaker 3: never worked with him before. I'm gonna say, for real,
Speaker 3: I knew he's gonna say for well, for some reason,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I should have. This have been a
Speaker 3: little scary. Who who's the I know Preame, I know Trey,
Speaker 3: I know blah blah blah. I no, yeah, for real, nigga,
Speaker 3: the clip ship fire, I'm like track record be fire bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can see it too.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with for real. Okay, now
Speaker 3: you said what was the other part? Now? Feature feature
Speaker 3: wise now yeah, feature feature one alive one Yeah, in
Speaker 3: entire life. Yeah, I could go with that. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: world yeah yeah, oh niggah, the nigga just oh forgot
Speaker 3: to save humanity. Well, I mean that you already funcked
Speaker 3: that up. Yeah, I don't want to offend anybody. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with, Yes, you were who Jesus exactly? There
Speaker 3: there are no jays and oh yes, I don't think
Speaker 3: no one picked Jesus.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were saying, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 2: I'm picking you the feature for Rest and Jesus rhyming. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, Jason he Man, Hey sus Man, let's get
Speaker 2: it real. No, that's your spandiard. No Jays nigga from
Speaker 2: South Kate.
Speaker 3: Homie and Home. No, no, so yes, So I mean
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna cut to the chest everyone. Jesus is alive,
Speaker 3: he died and went to where else? Nigga? I'm talking
Speaker 3: about that? How you got too smart? Right? Yeah? Now,
Speaker 3: let's say, let's see who I would pick physically with
Speaker 3: me on their bodies.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 3: I'm a fan and I would go with I'm gonna
Speaker 3: throw you off Duran Duran, What the fuck my favorite group.
Speaker 2: Let me hear the dudes with the feathers in their
Speaker 2: here no Man.
Speaker 3: Some of the els records ever I tried to I
Speaker 3: tried to sample De Duran on this album and the
Speaker 3: company was like, not at all. They're British right. One
Speaker 3: of the greatest records I've ever written is called Sabor
Speaker 3: Prayer and I was a little kid watching MTV and
Speaker 3: it took me fifteen years to understand. See, the best
Speaker 3: thing about UH writing before the dumblification of rap is
Speaker 3: that it was dope. Rock was written well because we
Speaker 3: creative rock and these songs and R and B and
Speaker 3: women the woman like people are talking. They talking that
Speaker 3: ship though they're talking like I'm fucking your nigga, like
Speaker 3: they talking about real ship, but making the ship sound amazing.
Speaker 3: It just became now where it's like I'm a whore,
Speaker 3: I'm a dude, you fuck me, I'm on you shit, corny.
Speaker 2: You know it's so crazy it sounds like a hit record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because your ears trained into monkey times pro so
Speaker 3: so they used to write grown ass Ship, fire Ship
Speaker 3: and Duran Durant Wright's really interesting. It always resonated with me.
Speaker 3: I tried to sample it twice one company. It was
Speaker 3: like never in life. Yeah, They're like I was signing
Speaker 3: a Capito old Parorty record. I'm like, come on, bro,
Speaker 3: It's like, naw, well you need to go after that. Well,
Speaker 3: you know you asked me in my perfect world for
Speaker 3: real to make the beat. I get the Ran around
Speaker 3: are they Aund's so yeah, yeah, it's like so here,
Speaker 3: I challenge everybody here for this one. There's a song
Speaker 3: that I heard as a kid. Amongst all the amazing
Speaker 3: great records, the Ran Durant had a record called a
Speaker 3: viwtwo to Kill. I like James Vond. I like the nigga.
Speaker 3: It was a cool nigga you kill niggas. He always
Speaker 3: get the bitch. So I liked James Vond. Do I
Speaker 3: see myself in James Bond? No, but in my James
Speaker 3: Bond you God damn right right right now. Dran Durant
Speaker 3: would do the music to a few of them, and
Speaker 3: he had a salt that it's not he, it's them.
Speaker 3: There's a song, but.
Speaker 2: It's hearing of them, not them them. Huh they No,
Speaker 2: it's them.
Speaker 3: They them. But the point was one of the greatest records.
Speaker 3: It took me fifteen years, like to even understand the
Speaker 3: context of the record. And that's what I think. I
Speaker 3: think layers are incredible when I I can listen to
Speaker 3: oldies and hear like, oh shit, I'm old enough to
Speaker 3: really understand what the fuck I was here, Like I
Speaker 3: heard it because it sounded catchy, as opposed to like,
Speaker 3: oh I'm living in this.
Speaker 4: Like I called a rock can bar.
Speaker 3: From the first album like four four years ago, no less,
Speaker 3: and I wish I should have wrote it down. I
Speaker 3: was like, I finally got the bar. I like that
Speaker 3: now if you want, I walked down the street down
Speaker 3: my horn. I killed him yesterday. I shot it's monkey talk.
Speaker 3: Grow the fuck up. I get it that they trained
Speaker 3: you to do that, But I like shit where like
Speaker 3: even even the law's form of energy is more complicated
Speaker 3: than one simple thing. So I like when I like
Speaker 3: when I go back to people's music and get more
Speaker 3: informed or you know, or get growth. Because I thought
Speaker 3: the point of art, as I look at it on
Speaker 3: this wall, as I see it amongst me, is to
Speaker 3: learn from it and to grow from it. If it's
Speaker 3: just a thing, then you're a cheeseburger from McDonald's I'm
Speaker 3: not no fucking cheeseburger. We are exquisite art. We do
Speaker 3: exquisite shit. The fact that you can move from what
Speaker 3: you did, you know what I'm saying. As a queen's nigga,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and really go from CNN
Speaker 3: to go into you know what I'm saying. I do
Speaker 3: have a joke about, but no to move into your
Speaker 3: culture and even do reggaeton, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: have growth to build. You know what I'm saying. Where
Speaker 3: y'all on, y'all tenth here for you to grow.
Speaker 4: That's the love. Don't never be relegated.
Speaker 3: And I'm kind of in it. I'm in that. I'm
Speaker 3: in my love zone about the art, like fuck it
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, when we go,
Speaker 3: all we gonna leave is this I mean, So I'm
Speaker 3: gonna leave excellence if I can't.
Speaker 4: What's your stance on ghost riding.
Speaker 3: Here's my stance on that. To different sports. So water
Speaker 3: polo is not regular polo.
Speaker 2: Lets say it again, A water polo is not regular
Speaker 2: on the horse.
Speaker 3: And they hit right. I think it's more difficult water polo.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. So I'm just gonna tell you different
Speaker 3: skill set. So he asked me a question about ghost writing.
Speaker 3: So a man named three people, because then you can
Speaker 3: use it. Kanye West, Doctor Dre my name for allegedly others,
Speaker 3: I said, Kanye West, I said, so did he? So did?
Speaker 3: He said, don't matter if I write rhymes, I write checks.
Speaker 3: Doctor Dre has never said all the best lyricists. I
Speaker 3: respect him. Different sport. He's a producer, right, But don't
Speaker 3: act like you play my sport, right, don't. You don't
Speaker 3: come in with niggas helping you write four or five
Speaker 3: of your bars, seven or ten. At what point when
Speaker 3: it does it become them and not you? Hooks and
Speaker 3: production are one thing. If you don't play my sport,
Speaker 3: fuck out of here. I play a sport it's called bars.
Speaker 3: The rest of y'all playing a game called convincing bitches
Speaker 3: and white people that you're popular. You can't beat me
Speaker 3: at what I do, and I don't give a fuck
Speaker 3: if you got a group. So the bottom line is
Speaker 3: we should just call a thing called seventy four years.
Speaker 3: No Internet, none of your hype people, none of your
Speaker 3: help writers.
Speaker 4: I will air your niggas out.
Speaker 3: I'll air your favorites, because if you over here with
Speaker 3: niggas helping you, throwing you bars and whatever. You can
Speaker 3: help with a hook, you can help with production, you
Speaker 3: cannot help me with me expressing myself. Period. No, right now,
Speaker 3: motherfuckers is using chat GPT. That my next question.
Speaker 5: While confidently I've seen people I'm not gonna name no names,
Speaker 5: but they're comfortently saying Chad GVT is helping.
Speaker 7: Well again again, every tool rhyme again, every.
Speaker 3: Tool is a tool. You're just not playing my sport.
Speaker 3: Whatever that sport is called it something else that's not
Speaker 3: water polo, that's called the salad polo, cyberpolo. Right, you
Speaker 3: can do whatever you want to do, just don't act
Speaker 3: like you mean. But Kenky said, they not like they
Speaker 3: not like us, You not like me. If you don't
Speaker 3: write your ship, you beat it. My nigga, what what
Speaker 3: game we plan? You not capable of depth of character?
Speaker 3: You don't know how to express yourself. You need other
Speaker 3: people to help. You say you need a therapist. I
Speaker 3: gave an analogy a long time. Well, but basically that's
Speaker 3: what they are. They're your therapist. Here, here's my analogy.
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite basketball player? Who's your favorite football player.
Speaker 3: You don't give a okay, Jesus Chris, So John Alway
Speaker 3: is definitely you even know.
Speaker 2: That's what I actually cared about.
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you started watching the playbacks of John Alway,
Speaker 3: he was a quarterback right right, So if you saw
Speaker 3: l Way he was doing, you freeze frame it right
Speaker 3: and this is going to get racist, but it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Why oh you know, why do you know me? So
Speaker 3: nor watching these? A little Mexican cross out always hands
Speaker 3: and he really throws it. A little Mexican, a little
Speaker 3: Mexican guy. Because I'm from l A and I always
Speaker 3: those are my brothers. So so if you saw a
Speaker 3: miniature little nigga, come on, he's happening to be nextan
Speaker 3: in my analogy because I'm from la so I think
Speaker 3: it's Lway, but it's not really, not really, it's a
Speaker 3: little nigga that comes out a little bit in my analogy,
Speaker 3: happens to be Nan. He comes out bomb. I want
Speaker 3: I want Alway.
Speaker 4: I don't want Alway.
Speaker 3: I want El Pedro. I want the little nature. I
Speaker 3: want the little nigga that through the bomb. But I
Speaker 3: like that guy.
Speaker 7: I don't want the little nigga that did this ship
Speaker 7: because you're the big guy doing it.
Speaker 2: They need each other. No, fuck you, because.
Speaker 3: I like the real one you can. I never went
Speaker 3: to McDonald's expecting Ronald McDonald to come out and make
Speaker 3: my hamburgers and take my order, right, But for real,
Speaker 3: I did expect it's call wrap and you can't write them.
Speaker 4: You're not like me.
Speaker 3: I don't want you around here. Give me the nigga
Speaker 3: that's doing it in R and B because they do
Speaker 3: a lot of hard work. They and they dance, they
Speaker 3: sing and they dance. Nigga rappers. We don't have a
Speaker 3: hard job. But how come, let me let me ask
Speaker 3: you this.
Speaker 1: How come Chris Brown could be related to one of
Speaker 1: the greatest of all times and he clearly is great.
Speaker 1: But you find out that Chris Brown didn't write some
Speaker 1: of his songs, is he still.
Speaker 3: He's not great? Cannot be?
Speaker 11: We have to be honest, man, it's not it's not
Speaker 11: normal and it's not in the genre of R and
Speaker 11: B that is a normal life songwriter collaborate.
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson times out. I never thought Billy Jean was
Speaker 3: not his lover for Michael Jackson when when I was
Speaker 3: a kid.
Speaker 8: I do this.
Speaker 3: Nigga was not fucking nothing, Billy Nigga the likes I
Speaker 3: was like, he's the baddest.
Speaker 4: Come on, this is rape.
Speaker 3: At some point do we get are we gonna have
Speaker 3: some accountability here?
Speaker 5: And the thing is this, Although it is true that
Speaker 5: there's ghost writing in hip hop, although it is true
Speaker 5: from the beginning, Although it is true, this is the thing,
Speaker 5: this is, This is where we have to be understanding
Speaker 5: of it. Although we used to be honest, although it
Speaker 5: is true, the overlying rule in hip hop, that is
Speaker 5: the overlying rule in hip hop.
Speaker 1: But best groups of all time? Who n w A
Speaker 1: said Ice Cube?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: The rhymes that I say, like, I didn't even I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what he was saying.
Speaker 4: Back then when I thought about it, I said, holy
Speaker 4: shell from But.
Speaker 3: That was that was only easy and dre.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be honest I and Doctor Drake is
Speaker 4: the way with it.
Speaker 2: They didn't never saying they were mcs or rappers.
Speaker 3: Really really true, right, they were a team.
Speaker 2: Ice You were the only true mcs.
Speaker 3: And then came d C from tech Corse. At d C,
Speaker 3: he was writing writing like a motherfucker right, incredible, incredible
Speaker 3: or incredible. But Doctor Dre ain't never said yeah I
Speaker 3: got the bars, yeah d o C.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like he ain't ship.
Speaker 3: I'm doctor Dre, doc p r E. I spent all
Speaker 3: this ship I wrote for him and these other niggas
Speaker 3: like you Shenanigan, and they did not. And I think
Speaker 3: if nothing else is called rap. If you can't rap, good,
Speaker 3: beat it. If you don't write your wraps, but you're
Speaker 3: good to the system, great, Just don't act like you
Speaker 3: do what we do. So I think Kanye should have
Speaker 3: stopped from the man. I'm like, stop the like, uh,
Speaker 3: I ain't been doing whoever the fuck you think you are?
Speaker 3: Your cornball, I'll tell you sy well think Kanye? I think, well,
Speaker 3: you know I lived with jay Z. It's time to
Speaker 3: stop with you. Live I did. I lived on State Street.
Speaker 3: I lived. I lived before this album came out. That's
Speaker 3: why I got the jazz O record. I lived on
Speaker 3: State Street with no I lived in the apartment with
Speaker 3: Tim beat High and jay Z. What did you not
Speaker 3: live with that?
Speaker 10: This guy?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm an Airbnb company.
Speaker 3: You tied to bro stupid fucking l A kid that
Speaker 3: went on a dream called I believe when it's rap shit.
Speaker 3: I was getting the bag. I had already fucked up.
Speaker 3: I went on the journey, bro, yeah, I mean ship.
Speaker 3: I asked them, if I'm a lining nigga, they gonna
Speaker 3: tell you my story. My story adds up. These nigga
Speaker 3: stories don't add all.
Speaker 2: Right, what's the jay Z living story?
Speaker 3: H Jay's my label made first album priority?
Speaker 4: Yeah right, oh yeah, that's right, right, that's right.
Speaker 3: So that's that's how you all connect. And at some point,
Speaker 3: what did you think about him when you first met him?
Speaker 3: I actually protected him. Snoop shipped on him. Who Snoopy
Speaker 3: Dog our label made shipped on him.
Speaker 2: Really, this is during the beginning of the East Coast
Speaker 2: West Coast ship.
Speaker 3: No. When this is East Coast Killer, West Coast cap
Speaker 3: hillis little monkey niggas tonguerrillas. I'm on the radio, I'm
Speaker 3: up and coming where all labelmates Snoop calls in and
Speaker 3: ships on jay Z. And they asked me what I
Speaker 3: think about it? And I say, I think Snoops are wrong.
Speaker 3: Y'all don't think he understood the bar mm hm, So
Speaker 3: I say, jay Z ain't sol no records, the company
Speaker 3: don't already don't fuck with jay Z.
Speaker 4: But reasonable doubt is fire.
Speaker 2: I'm like, reasonable is already out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the failed record, failed, failed failed record, Yes, it's failed.
Speaker 3: Do the math. See when it comes out, see when
Speaker 3: the single comes out. I'm telling me what they expected,
Speaker 3: her saying he his B side of.
Speaker 4: The Hustle already came out.
Speaker 3: No dead press President President is coming out there on
Speaker 3: the record. No, ain't came out as they're never what
Speaker 3: independent asshole label would shoot a fucking record for B side?
Speaker 3: Right then it's over. I'm I'm telling you what the execs,
Speaker 3: the bean counters are saying.
Speaker 4: You want to shoot this. They're saying in front of me.
Speaker 3: I'm an I'm an artist too, I'm signed for my
Speaker 3: amount of money whatever. They're like, nah, we're never going
Speaker 3: to do that. I'm like, I think it's fire. This
Speaker 3: almost incredible man being record. I'm like, this ship fire
Speaker 3: and I already know, bro, that's the Hawaiian Sophie Niggas.
Speaker 3: I know what I know. Now, maybe you being counters,
Speaker 3: don't know who you're dealing with. Niggas Fire, Snoop don't know.
Speaker 3: So I told my so, why did you think Snoop
Speaker 3: did that? I mean, I never because he didn't know.
Speaker 3: And it's in that all East and West.
Speaker 2: But no record is this.
Speaker 3: This is the first jay Z out, but the Snoop record,
Speaker 3: I don't know the something last year.
Speaker 2: What you got to get to the bottom.
Speaker 3: Google it and put it up on this ship right now,
Speaker 3: Google and you picked the day and I never heard.
Speaker 3: I never heard. So anyway, we're on the radio and
Speaker 3: Snoop says the ship and he's like, I didn't like
Speaker 3: what jay Z said. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't like and I'm happen to be on the radio,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, with.
Speaker 1: That lot of East Coast Killers, that was a reasonable
Speaker 1: So that's dead Press, these schools West Coast Killers.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that the dra Ship? On Aftermath?
Speaker 4: Are you tipsy? Are you talking with me?
Speaker 2: I'm serious?
Speaker 3: Okay. So Karris on dad Press, he says, oh you
Speaker 3: mean j Body, Yes, A little Monkey Niggas Tonguebrellers on
Speaker 3: Damn Press, which is one of my favorite records.
Speaker 4: I don't like the remix. I like the original.
Speaker 3: We have to talk very clear.
Speaker 2: When you say dead Press, everybody's gonna think you're thinking
Speaker 2: about dead The group oh no, no Dead Presidents.
Speaker 3: The record J's Dead Presidence. Yes, So they all come
Speaker 3: out around the same time my album.
Speaker 4: James Record, Who Changed J.
Speaker 3: And So I remember just being on the radio in
Speaker 3: La and I had to defend in La Jayme's record.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think the sophisticated ear would
Speaker 3: know that jay Z's not dissing La. I said, what
Speaker 3: I would find offense too is too much West Coast
Speaker 3: dick Licking, which is a different song that's two twenty two's.
Speaker 4: My ear is to the street on these bars.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you when the nigga talk and slick because
Speaker 3: I can talk slick too. I shoot at niggas too.
Speaker 3: So whatever we get like all your favorites could get it.
Speaker 3: But I don't think what jay was talking about was
Speaker 3: that he was trying to do like Queen's niggas talk
Speaker 3: different and Compton niggas that talk different.
Speaker 5: And when I told Norrie Rick Ross was in saying
Speaker 5: you and hustling, that was a conversation we did that.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, I just always wanted because
Speaker 3: I felt like you were lying to me. Y'all, Really
Speaker 3: you really have it?
Speaker 2: Remembering you not at first, No, word not. Don't worry.
Speaker 2: It wasn't working.
Speaker 3: Instance not you.
Speaker 4: I got over it.
Speaker 3: That. Wow. Okay, you're a good friend. You got you
Speaker 3: guys have been good friend really? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hello it want to take a shot?
Speaker 3: No, I want to kill you?
Speaker 4: How do I do that?
Speaker 2: You want to kill me something?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: I feel like you can. I pissed real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I pissed the mill.
Speaker 3: Time to go for it? Wait will you? I'll be
Speaker 3: right back okay?
Speaker 4: Cool? No, No, we won't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: I promise.
Speaker 3: Oh that you can't right back for real? All this fun? Really?
Speaker 3: So I know.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I asked you earlier, what was your favorite album? What's
Speaker 1: the album that you wish you you could take back?
Speaker 1: You got thirty six?
Speaker 3: Do you consider all not believe that that's true for
Speaker 3: one thirty six releases?
Speaker 2: Consider them all out your album?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I believe. I mean in thirty years nigga? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fun, I need stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Thirty years. Yeah, he's been thirty years of like since
Speaker 3: the people guess about here. No, that's.
Speaker 2: The anniversary of it.
Speaker 3: I know. It's crazy. Think about it though, you guys,
Speaker 3: think about the nips and the pox and the big
Speaker 3: age and like just not even to be able to
Speaker 3: celebrate ten years of the journey and still legacies that
Speaker 3: affect us. So for me, I always just kind of
Speaker 3: find it like I'm grateful to be here. I'm not
Speaker 3: comparing like oh I need what so and so God,
Speaker 3: but like nips like you know, for Nipsey or big
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, not even to be able
Speaker 3: to enjoy like m your your kid turning.
Speaker 4: So life is precious, like no functions.
Speaker 1: So if you had a chance to do over, you
Speaker 1: would say, now, I wouldn't do it. Well none.
Speaker 3: I'm with everything I said when I said fu so
Speaker 3: and so, whatever I said, I meant it at the time.
Speaker 3: I ain't got no regrets, no regrets. You ever seen
Speaker 3: the tattoos regirts right right, Yeah, I'm totally okay with Like,
Speaker 3: even if I feel differently now, at least I felt
Speaker 3: how I felt at least because these are time capsules
Speaker 3: about how I felt at the time. Absolutely so. Maybe
Speaker 3: I was mad at my mom, maybe I was sad
Speaker 3: about this or whatever. These are time capsules. That's what
Speaker 3: art is. These people, everything that we do, every monument,
Speaker 3: even us as fucking children, think about this from a
Speaker 3: philosophical standpoint, we are the culmination of everybody before us.
Speaker 3: Wild I'm talking about before however long you think people
Speaker 3: were made.
Speaker 2: That survived for you to be here.
Speaker 3: Right, we are just here and now we're parents that
Speaker 3: we're creating art and whatever were.
Speaker 2: Like fuck sees or fuck this or like Nike.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a beautiful journey.
Speaker 3: Man. I'm trying to embrace the grind. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: embrace the journey and enjoy my life while trying to
Speaker 3: at least do a good job while I'm here. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean. That's the I would hope that's
Speaker 3: the most important thing is like, enjoy it, live it,
Speaker 3: love it, and capitalize off of it.
Speaker 4: I'm on big bread, but big.
Speaker 3: Fun I do. My mom, my mom before she passed
Speaker 3: a long time ago. She fucked me up. And I'm
Speaker 3: gonna share something personal. So my mother only just died
Speaker 3: about then seven months ago. I got four sisters. I
Speaker 3: got four sisters, thank you, thanks for the condolences, but
Speaker 3: that's not my issue. I got four sisters, three older,
Speaker 3: one younger. So what makes me tick has never been
Speaker 3: and I'm a creole. My mom from Louisiana, My daddy's
Speaker 3: mark saf So I'm just clarified what the fuck I am.
Speaker 3: Ain't no nigga ever gonna change me anyway, because even
Speaker 3: when I was born in LA, I used to be
Speaker 3: the darkest kid in my family. You are Latino, I'm
Speaker 3: a creole, French blood whatever. So I've always had a journey.
Speaker 3: I wrote about it on my first album, You're not
Speaker 3: Gonna Force Me to do shit. Always felt very strongly
Speaker 3: and had a strong protective family about.
Speaker 4: Self.
Speaker 3: I made many mistakes, but my family allowed me to
Speaker 3: make mistakes, and my homeboys did also helped me too.
Speaker 3: But I think one of the things is part of
Speaker 3: this journey is the love part. I grow Catholic as fuck.
Speaker 3: I know my seventh Sacraments. I grew up with whatever
Speaker 3: like even in La like you ask to be all
Speaker 3: crip shit, I'm telling you, it was much harder to
Speaker 3: even identify with blacks culturally because I identified with Latinos.
Speaker 3: I mean, who's poor and Catholic in La? So I
Speaker 3: always feel like the bigger point is to express yourself,
Speaker 3: and I'm grateful to have an opportunity, at fifty years old,
Speaker 3: to be able to express myself and be honest and
Speaker 3: hopefully not bitter and jaded and inform people about because
Speaker 3: I didn't listen to my father, or I listened.
Speaker 4: To my mother because she's a tyrant. She was a tyrant.
Speaker 3: She was awesome. But you know that we do better,
Speaker 3: like I want to be able to be in a
Speaker 3: place where I can give people game, gain people up.
Speaker 3: Make sure you know what I'm saying. We're protecting what's
Speaker 3: most important, which is all our civilizations, all our people.
Speaker 3: How do we build bigger businesses? And I really don't
Speaker 3: even think that we should even start celebrating people that
Speaker 3: have been celebrities, because they don't deserve to be celebrated anymore.
Speaker 3: I think after two hundred million, if you ain't helping nobody,
Speaker 3: then we shouldn't talk about you no more.
Speaker 4: If you make two hundred.
Speaker 3: Million dollars and you ain't out here really doing the
Speaker 3: people's work, you beat the monopoly board, you're going to
Speaker 3: fold yours up, and then we're just not going to
Speaker 3: give you nothing. We'll find somebody else, find somebody to help.
Speaker 3: I think we need to start bringing our energy differently.
Speaker 3: I don't have to shit on nobody for me to
Speaker 3: feel better. I don't think that are like people are
Speaker 3: all like algorithms. Niggas act like the algorithm is like
Speaker 3: I don't know. Niggas. No, No, Niggas act like the
Speaker 3: algorithm is like science, like pie. They were like, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like certain degrees, you freezer a nigga,
Speaker 3: make it and guess what nigga he looked like, not
Speaker 3: like you. Eli must changed and called it something different.
Speaker 3: Twitter became ex and nigger and beaner became a word.
Speaker 4: Way more often.
Speaker 3: Stop bowing to white people's ideas because you are going
Speaker 3: to lose that game. Stop Latinos. You're not gonna like
Speaker 3: this what I'm gonna say it. Stop thinking your Spanish
Speaker 3: Spain don't like you we do. Stop bowing to America.
Speaker 3: America has told you you're not welcome here, except here's
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 4: It's our land.
Speaker 3: We got to start learning how to love each other
Speaker 3: and stop letting these constructs change us from being the
Speaker 3: best people we can. And that's really one of my
Speaker 3: bigger points about even this album and everything I've ever
Speaker 3: tried to make.
Speaker 4: You could take my money, but you couldn't take who
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: You could take being important, but I bar your favorite
Speaker 3: nigga out you can't have he can't beat me rapping.
Speaker 3: You can make it more important than me. I got
Speaker 3: a good face, I'll take it. I'll take this bitch.
Speaker 3: I do so I'm on that. I want us to
Speaker 3: like get back to for the culture for business. We
Speaker 3: can own our own businesses. And I think that's kind
Speaker 3: of part of the reason why I've always stuck to
Speaker 3: my guns is because I came from a good family
Speaker 3: that supported the collectives. Because if it's just about you,
Speaker 3: then think about it, you become the person that.
Speaker 4: Only thinks about you.
Speaker 3: Think about it, think about your billionaires, and a nigga
Speaker 3: be crying like nobody like, are you kidding me? You
Speaker 3: gotta beat it? Well, I mean they expect that from them.
Speaker 3: I know our own kind that's sitting fucking ivory towers
Speaker 3: all over and be like think like, I'm like, are
Speaker 3: you kidding me? I've had to talk to people. Have
Speaker 3: you ever talked to somebody that was so rich? But
Speaker 3: they're acting like I'm not Like I'm like, my dude,
Speaker 3: a girl, do you know how much money you have?
Speaker 3: Like you're sitting in a fucking hundred and twenty thousand
Speaker 3: dollars a night whatever, Like you're fuck I've met Have
Speaker 3: you ever met a princess?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 3: Have you met a princess? Have you ever met a
Speaker 3: real princess? Like a real like, oh god, I met you.
Speaker 3: They have their many different countries. Have you never met
Speaker 3: a person in a prince let alone? Have you ever
Speaker 3: knocked the one? But the point is, yeah, it's people.
Speaker 3: Everything's in somebody's mind. They're the victim. But sometimes it's like, bro,
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Like you're super up? You ain't
Speaker 3: never had a homeboy that's super rich and he's just
Speaker 3: like everybody's gut me. I'm like, bitch, what are you
Speaker 3: talking about? You got the nigga? You're filthy? And so
Speaker 3: I think, to be honest, we talk the audience wants
Speaker 3: to be. People want to feel people want That's why
Speaker 3: people watch it because they want to either talk shit
Speaker 3: about people that they look up to. I just think
Speaker 3: ultimately the end game about art is to express and
Speaker 3: share who we are, because those are gonna be like
Speaker 3: I don't even think drink Champ again in season. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, I think what you do is art because
Speaker 3: you get us all to fucking turn into our real selves.
Speaker 3: And I think that's inspiring. I think it's fun and
Speaker 3: we all, you know, we know each other to some degree.
Speaker 3: Some shit gotta get real and and tell niggas when
Speaker 3: they full of shit. You should including me.
Speaker 1: You ready, let me let me uh bounce around with
Speaker 1: the with the track list for a second. Leopards eat face.
Speaker 1: I've heard you say that before. M hmm okay in
Speaker 1: an interview, Yes, sir, So what does that exactly mean?
Speaker 1: I know it's sulf explanatory, but let's just break it down.
Speaker 4: You're about to roll a cigarette. Ahead, you can roll it,
Speaker 4: don't smoke it?
Speaker 3: Did you smoke it? Ready? We'll go outside. I'll go outside.
Speaker 3: You sad you're going to smoke a cigarette? Did you know?
Speaker 3: I said that was earlier? I said I was gonna
Speaker 3: go poop buddy, and then came out like.
Speaker 1: Ady.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I lost. I couldn't even pool ith like.
Speaker 4: It got weird. So the leopards to eat fish. So
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sorry you all right? So the thing
Speaker 4: is actually like this, don't put your face towards going right.
Speaker 3: Help me as a metaphor for like, if you already
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen and you do it, don't
Speaker 3: act like you're surprised if it happened. That's really the metaphor.
Speaker 3: So it was really about political ship. So really it
Speaker 3: was like Latinos for Trump. Yeah, we're win at me, buddy.
Speaker 3: Hey man, weird. I promised that.
Speaker 2: God no, I was just I'm Cuman, but that wasn't
Speaker 2: me man.
Speaker 3: Muslim niggers for Trump? Whoever I did, you can mute it.
Speaker 3: That's what I call niggas nigga. Its hard arc, hard
Speaker 3: hard art, hard r for Trump. If you know the
Speaker 3: dude don't like you and you do it. Let me
Speaker 3: waiting for me? Bro times out here he's blaming me.
Speaker 3: You want me a blood without the minesty? Uh, that's
Speaker 3: Boris Man loved me. Can't get Can I just get.
Speaker 2: The put a little sprinkling this.
Speaker 3: He's gonna give me cocaine. I know it's kind. I
Speaker 3: know it's kind. Boys. Looks me up. Come on, bro,
Speaker 3: let me get one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like a black, like a black mouth. Oh just a
Speaker 4: regular black.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just a regular. Let's sweat it. I'm god, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just a regular.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 3: How come with you outside the storm? Spirit?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I would have done it. Do it? Is
Speaker 3: this cool? Can I put that yeah, of course, this
Speaker 3: is amazing. Thank you guys. Absolutely, man, you said you
Speaker 3: got more, Yeah, you gotta do. Ah, I want more.
Speaker 2: Questions, Well, got some statements actually and question statements.
Speaker 3: I want to do another death round. I'm just you know,
Speaker 3: my job is being against you. Nice.
Speaker 2: We've gotten drunk enough in our life in facts.
Speaker 5: Absolutely no, So I just wanted to go back actually
Speaker 5: to your sons because I just want to highlight them. Man,
Speaker 5: we didn't we didn't say Coast Contra. The contribution that
Speaker 5: they bring it in today is amazing. I know as
Speaker 5: a father, I don't I don't need you to go
Speaker 5: in death because I know you said they could speak
Speaker 5: for themselves at some point. But you and Tidra having
Speaker 5: these kids, I mean, and what they've become as artists,
Speaker 5: and I mean I hope they'd be good kids to
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 3: Well, look, people go through journeys. I can only say
Speaker 3: that I remember, I hope this lands well. My first
Speaker 3: album was solo Nights. I wrote to me. By this
Speaker 3: album the second one I started writing to them. I've
Speaker 3: written because it's this therapy for me. So I hope
Speaker 3: the culmination of anybody's journey is that you're explaining yourself
Speaker 3: in real time that people you love you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, whether it's to my mother or to my sisters,
Speaker 3: or to the love I lost. If I'm like y'all
Speaker 3: fucked up, you know what I'm saying. I went here,
Speaker 3: I made it, left when I should have made a
Speaker 3: right And if that affected you, what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: So for me, I write from a truth. I don't
Speaker 3: write from a trying to get a money. Some people
Speaker 3: are writing like, oh, you can get money, and if
Speaker 3: I just say the right thing, I can get a
Speaker 3: lot of money out of people. I never wrote from there.
Speaker 3: I always felt like to be perfectly honest my friends
Speaker 3: and my own horrible nature. I'm gonna land on my feet.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get some money. I'm gonna get I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take it out of somebody, like the other part of me,
Speaker 3: my negative energy, but my positive energy I've already. I've
Speaker 3: always tried to write from my heart, not from really
Speaker 3: my ego, and not from like bitter. I try to
Speaker 3: write from love and like and trying to write from
Speaker 3: like what am I really experiencing in real time? And
Speaker 3: so for me, you know, with them, I want them
Speaker 3: to have their journey. I'm still in my journey, so
Speaker 3: they can write there as I'm writing in mind their
Speaker 3: mom that's her journey and what's behind closed doors with
Speaker 3: uh be and my sisters, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But she's an incredible artist. Of course, you're an incredible artist.
Speaker 5: And then now you have these twin kids that are
Speaker 5: become incredible artists in career.
Speaker 3: But again, we're negating two other people. Close contra is
Speaker 3: not two negatives.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: All I'm trying to share with you is again I
Speaker 3: don't want I don't even know how that affects those
Speaker 3: two people. So I want them people to have their journey.
Speaker 5: You mean the group as a whole, Yeah, I want
Speaker 5: those but of course, but you're on our show and
Speaker 5: we're talking about specifically you and them and part of
Speaker 5: that group.
Speaker 3: So they're out. So what happened? So what happens is
Speaker 3: so when when when a boy and a girl like
Speaker 3: each other?
Speaker 5: They all, right, the births of the beast, But relax, right,
Speaker 5: we get we get the birth Listen, let me get
Speaker 5: that going for right.
Speaker 3: Let me give And it's not just it's not it's
Speaker 3: not just your twins. It's it's a group as a whole.
Speaker 2: But because you're here, we're talking about the twins a
Speaker 2: part of that.
Speaker 3: Girl love them.
Speaker 2: And what's dope is that oftentimes in hip hop we say,
Speaker 2: oh man, I wish these kids today would.
Speaker 3: Sound like blah blah blah blah. You know what they did.
Speaker 3: They sound like what we blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But even modern day version of what we want hip
Speaker 2: hop to sound like, and better than even we thought
Speaker 2: that it could sound like.
Speaker 3: I am extremely supportive. It's just I want them to
Speaker 3: have let me find out.
Speaker 2: You're competitive with your own kids.
Speaker 3: First of all, I would give my sons my fucking lung.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I just want to make sure because you
Speaker 2: sad like I'm treading lightly, because young men need to
Speaker 2: feel like young men.
Speaker 3: You don't want.
Speaker 4: I want to know.
Speaker 3: I want them to feel like I'm not stepping on
Speaker 3: their toes.
Speaker 2: You're You're just.
Speaker 3: Trying to tell you.
Speaker 2: It's a part of your legacy.
Speaker 3: Legacy again, narratives or narratives. And what I'm trying to
Speaker 3: do is with their mother, with them, with my family,
Speaker 3: is to make sure that and with my homeboys.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that I say.
Speaker 3: Respectfully, like it's really cool to talk about, uh, you
Speaker 3: know with p when we were in real time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Children's perceptions are different than parents, absolutely, and want them
Speaker 3: to be able to tell their story as opposed to
Speaker 3: me having my version. They'll tell theirs when they as
Speaker 3: they tell.
Speaker 5: You as they will tell their stories because they're making
Speaker 5: a great career for themselves and they.
Speaker 3: Will have they make more money to me, you want
Speaker 3: to keep talking about.
Speaker 5: They will have their platforms to tell their stories. I'm
Speaker 5: not all I'm doing right now is paying homage to you.
Speaker 2: Damn don't. Yes, I eric do, alright, I got in
Speaker 2: the laugh, So we'll move on from that. I love you,
Speaker 2: love you love what your sons are doing by I.
Speaker 3: Do too, all right, Absolutely, I love I love what
Speaker 3: coast contra not my son, of course I love it. Bro, jesus,
Speaker 3: you just took a shot, a super take a shot, bro.
Speaker 3: It alienates.
Speaker 2: No, they're dope. Took all of them are dope.
Speaker 3: We're just saying specifically because you're here.
Speaker 2: If their dad was here, we saying fuck your sons.
Speaker 4: That don't mean that, but anyway, yes you did.
Speaker 3: No I meant it literally, not did literally not literally.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't make sense either.
Speaker 4: Isn't that a Bay Area thing? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, that's a that's a uh so l A
Speaker 3: different hoods do, different ship. And then honestly, I think
Speaker 3: it's a New York team, really New York. I feel
Speaker 3: like that's deal man, not for real. Wait, that would
Speaker 3: be a big area too, right me? No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you would say, you know what New Yorkers did.
Speaker 3: L A niggas would do like hood ship and click ship.
Speaker 4: New York niggas just.
Speaker 1: Started like they didn't want to, and I was forty
Speaker 1: ship you smell me times out.
Speaker 4: Forty made most of the slang.
Speaker 3: Stop it now he made all that. Yeah, I say
Speaker 3: times out, I wasn't there, but most of l A
Speaker 3: slang and even Atlanta and yeah, start speaking on some
Speaker 3: other shit. I'm gonna bring you off. I'm gonna move
Speaker 3: this needley. A lot of LA slang is base slang.
Speaker 3: A lot of the production of the South of Atlanta
Speaker 3: because too short, and he forty wins. It's highly influenced that'
Speaker 3: space sound. Even what LA does right now that boom
Speaker 3: boom boom, last time that I checked this base ship,
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, period so we always like hip hop
Speaker 3: was created in the Bronx. Most people don't argue that
Speaker 3: at this point, certain vibes got caught. So all the
Speaker 3: Atlanta vibes, the La vibes come from the bank, and
Speaker 3: we should give them that credit. I think motherfucker's trying
Speaker 3: to remake shit is whack. I remember when jay Z
Speaker 3: was wearing white T shirts in New York and then
Speaker 3: there was like hat to the side and white T
Speaker 3: shirt and New Yorker is like and we're arguing, like, bitch,
Speaker 3: you did not wear white T shirts. Because when I
Speaker 3: was in New York and like white T shirt, I
Speaker 3: remember I had a Rolex. I'm in Times Square in
Speaker 3: my hotel and the girls are back then I date myself.
Speaker 3: But we wearing white teas with the roly with the
Speaker 3: LA had but we bagging the girls and all the like.
Speaker 3: So we're like eighteen, but we're back in like eighteen
Speaker 3: and like like we could get the girls at McDonald's.
Speaker 3: That's how old we were. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: when your kid when you're eighteen, upperly mobile McDonald's, mc donald's,
Speaker 3: Times Square, McDonald's.
Speaker 2: Girl, mcals.
Speaker 3: So in nineteen ninety five and six, and seven when
Speaker 3: you're not old, okay, that's teenager and you. But the
Speaker 3: girls would be like. I remember one girl like she's like,
Speaker 3: why are you wearing your undershirt? Y'all in New York
Speaker 3: And we just yelled. He's like, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch.
Speaker 4: This ain't no undershirt. We were angry.
Speaker 3: We're like, what do you mean is this was? This
Speaker 3: was our suit uniform? Yeah, this is a uniform. She said,
Speaker 3: why you no disrespect? Why are you wearing your uh
Speaker 3: this shirt? So like for for that to go from
Speaker 3: undershirts to jay Z making it like it's our uniform,
Speaker 3: it was like, that's not no. We wore white T
Speaker 3: shirts two pro clubs in l A just before cash
Speaker 3: Money was doing it. Stop it while behind No, let's
Speaker 3: just be hip hop. LA created the white tea. Knock
Speaker 3: it off you you guys created the black team who
Speaker 3: but Who's he? We Atlanta the South? But the tea
Speaker 3: as a fit is an l A thing. But I
Speaker 3: think made it really big. Stop behind I actually think
Speaker 3: so you stop behind the white team. Jay Z with
Speaker 3: it to the tilty Brown.
Speaker 2: Was a jay Z I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember that's when we go to l A.
Speaker 1: Don't wear white white tea, right, But I thought.
Speaker 3: The white tea was the dope boy thing. That that
Speaker 3: was the dope boys. It's an l a uniform. We
Speaker 3: were taught to wear that. That's how girls liked you.
Speaker 3: You were white tea. If you got your money up,
Speaker 3: you got too. You wore too, you would wear too.
Speaker 4: It's weird. Okay, you left early?
Speaker 3: When did you leave? Sir?
Speaker 4: Back and forth when you really felt, Like.
Speaker 2: When I became Miami officially, I was like nine years old,
Speaker 2: so I got dog ears.
Speaker 3: So my dog ears are La and New York. Like
Speaker 3: when I like I had we had a cousin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had a cousin then Harlem, so the dog years.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, La ship white teas too. Look
Speaker 3: at the Mexican. Look at the look at the process.
Speaker 3: You don't need the cai. You know what.
Speaker 2: The when you say Mexican, that makes more sense for me.
Speaker 4: You know what, We're all the main the white teas.
Speaker 3: All the same animals. You don't know the khakis, so
Speaker 3: the khakis they were white with the khakis. But yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're missing a point. If you had money, you
Speaker 3: could wear Levi's. If you have a lot of money,
Speaker 3: with gas. So that was khakis is broke. That's the
Speaker 3: uniform when you broke Levi's a little bit of money
Speaker 3: now thirty five ninety nine dean gas.
Speaker 2: So what case is going to guess?
Speaker 5: I'm like, I thought, I thought you said, uh, in
Speaker 5: my mind you said the gap.
Speaker 3: But guess you're right. I guess was the joint right.
Speaker 3: So that's all the process of the process. I didn't
Speaker 3: create the process. I didn't create the culture. I'm just
Speaker 3: telling trying to tell you the truth of it. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: khakis is what you would wear putting in work. Khakis
Speaker 3: is I'm selling dope. Right, So I would see my
Speaker 3: friends and they have a jelly stain over here.
Speaker 4: And because you shouldn't know, yeh man.
Speaker 3: I don't know what a right. So I'm putting this out.
Speaker 3: I'm pointing this camera. No, wow, who would you know?
Speaker 3: I'm talking about this guy?
Speaker 2: And you got me here.
Speaker 4: Want to trump drum?
Speaker 3: So look, so the woo wind was.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: If your friend, if you're twelve, if you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 3: your friend stepped in, he's selling dope. You go see
Speaker 3: your friend. He got on the same outfit. It's the
Speaker 3: khaki suit, but his white T shirt got stains like
Speaker 3: a nigga then eight like niggas would sleep in the bush,
Speaker 3: just like a queen's nigga. But yes, he being outside.
Speaker 2: Literally you're scaring getting his brand up.
Speaker 3: So that would be the thing. So you I would
Speaker 3: go see my friends. But on the white tea, it
Speaker 3: gets to tell all your stuff be like, bro, you
Speaker 3: got coffee sting, got little bloodstain, Like what the fuck
Speaker 3: are you doing? So that's what would happen. That's why
Speaker 3: the white tea. The black tea is a better idea.
Speaker 3: But in LA, that was the culture. I didn't invent ale.
Speaker 2: He's more practical.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are smarter for but that has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the price of rights and chin.
Speaker 3: I don't know, he said, Miami, maybe, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think Atlanta did it.
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta did too. Let me tell you something
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 5: As a as a LA transplant to Miami, one of
Speaker 5: the most protestings that I found out was that two.
Speaker 2: Light Crew was born in l A.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. He just fucked me out.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that never in life. What they were
Speaker 2: all military guys that were in l A.
Speaker 12: But not though, everyone except except Luke was some crazy
Speaker 12: fun So you had Mister Mix, Brother Marquise and uh,
Speaker 12: they were always nice to me and fresh Kid ice
Speaker 12: from Brother Marquis has records with Icee back in the days,
Speaker 12: back in the days Dog and they started they started
Speaker 12: the group together and then Luke brought and saw the
Speaker 12: vision and then they all made so for me as
Speaker 12: an l a transplant to Miami like this, this is.
Speaker 2: When you don't cry.
Speaker 3: I was breathing, come yeah.
Speaker 2: In Miami Life. You know that he did this song
Speaker 2: Miami Life for what soundtrack was it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: The substitute the substitute.
Speaker 2: So so it's funny because in Miami, because I'm here
Speaker 2: and he made it and I was in the scene,
Speaker 2: They're like, what the rest guys is doing a song
Speaker 2: about Miami Life?
Speaker 3: You know? Everybody?
Speaker 2: No, no, the original people.
Speaker 5: Originally people were like who the They were a little
Speaker 5: not who they knew who you were. They were just
Speaker 5: a little upset, like why didn't they pick a Miami
Speaker 5: person for this? But I actually, I don't know if
Speaker 5: you remember, I actually reached out to you shortly maybe
Speaker 5: after I don't know how long after, but and we
Speaker 5: I think so I don't know how whatever drunk memories.
Speaker 5: But but talk about Miami life, all right? So which
Speaker 5: is a great song by the way.
Speaker 3: Okay, my biggest issue about soundtracks were especially LA soundtracks.
Speaker 4: So obviously I'm from La.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, where are these other songs from? But
Speaker 3: but hold on, can I can I exposit you for
Speaker 3: a second? Sorry?
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, because I want to give context. I don't
Speaker 5: think even no re understands it. So there's a movie
Speaker 5: called The Substitute, right, remember what's the what's the other
Speaker 5: movie that came out the l A one, Well was
Speaker 5: Edward James almost.
Speaker 10: So American, remember yeah, yeah, but American meat is way no, no,
Speaker 10: but that's not that's not but that's not a high
Speaker 10: school movie, though stand.
Speaker 4: Delivery was remember the high school movie? It was The Teacher, Right.
Speaker 2: So another movie came out called, uh, the Substitute, which
Speaker 2: happened in Miami though Carl Gables High Actually okay, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was based on true story, but
Speaker 2: they filmed it in Miami. Actually no, so it was
Speaker 2: like the other movie with Edward j and then he
Speaker 2: made and then Lean On Me as well in the
Speaker 2: same vein.
Speaker 3: But you know, what I mean, the lead single.
Speaker 2: So he made the lead single Miami Life off of
Speaker 2: that soundtrack of a movie that's based on Miami.
Speaker 4: So can I land?
Speaker 3: So you wasting?
Speaker 4: That was wrapping, was rapping like me people.
Speaker 3: At that that part. That no. So my biggest argument
Speaker 3: about soundtracks was even if you not from the place,
Speaker 3: make it sound like you know what I mean, so
Speaker 3: I'll you know when you ain't nobody and you're just
Speaker 3: trying to get on. My whole ship was like, if
Speaker 3: I get a chance to get on something naked about
Speaker 3: the movie, naked about the place, I mean like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to hear a soundtrack about me in Mars.
Speaker 4: But the nigga like, oh, I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 3: My whole ship was I got an opportunity and it
Speaker 3: was called, uh the substitute, But they show you you
Speaker 3: know what it is. You know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 3: gonna see trailers, You're gonna see all the ship. I'm like,
Speaker 3: well fucking make it about see the actual movie. Uh No,
Speaker 3: had you been in Miami yet? Mm hmm you have been, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had already been. Like your family, no, baby, mama,
Speaker 3: there's no kids. It's just me having an opportunity. You've
Speaker 3: been out here, yeah, traveled. I've been with Coolio, like
Speaker 3: the homie's been up. Bro I noticed she's got a
Speaker 3: really good memory.
Speaker 4: Smoked weed but he drank, which is weird.
Speaker 2: It has good memory. So I'm very suspicious of you
Speaker 2: right now. I'm kidding nice Michelle bro RELLI give her
Speaker 2: another name.
Speaker 3: All of you know, she's gotta kill me.
Speaker 4: Sorry I was, I was talking ship.
Speaker 3: Please don't kill me. You're good, thank you, I appreciate you. Okay,
Speaker 3: So long stoy short. No, I didn't so my opinions
Speaker 3: about movies like like the soundtracks didn't match the movie.
Speaker 3: So I was like, if I ever get a chance,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna mirror the movie. That was my whole thing.
Speaker 3: And so when when I got opportunity, the first one
Speaker 3: I got was the street Fighter soundtrack.
Speaker 2: Street Fighter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the street Fighter soundtrack, the original street Fighter sound
Speaker 3: He was on my joint. That's how I get my
Speaker 3: first fucking source quotable.
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta go back up playing.
Speaker 3: It pitching and no one hit it, which is being severe.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes period.
Speaker 3: But now I'm on the soundtrack. I'm like, but it's
Speaker 3: in Miami, and I'm like, i've been there, I'm not
Speaker 3: from there, but let me start learning. Like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to write some ship and be talking about some
Speaker 3: ship and talking about the street that don't make another
Speaker 3: sense to a street. I just want to like because
Speaker 3: if nothing else honored the place. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If this movie is about being in Miami, being in
Speaker 3: high school or I just came out of high school,
Speaker 3: I need to understand the best I can about Miami,
Speaker 3: the best I can, you know what I'm saying in
Speaker 3: my small experiences, but honor the movie. Honored the place.
Speaker 3: That's Look, it don't cost you none but a little
Speaker 3: bit of time to learn. I'd rather do it. So
Speaker 3: that's why I did it Miami Life. I was just like, really,
Speaker 3: I called it Miami Vice. I was going back and
Speaker 3: forth between Miami and La and then the company was like.
Speaker 2: Well, just they said you wanted to name it Miami
Speaker 2: and La.
Speaker 3: No, I was gonna call it Miami Vice better. But
Speaker 3: when we made it, I wrote it. I knew people here,
Speaker 3: I'd been here. I saw the like trailers of the movie.
Speaker 3: I understood what it was about, and I was thinking
Speaker 3: about me in high.
Speaker 5: School at homies that were in the in the movie
Speaker 5: as extras that were real gangsters that played.
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to honor the city, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I've been here, Like I don't
Speaker 3: want to be on a funck shit and be something
Speaker 3: out of town, And like, why is the soundtrack got
Speaker 3: this nigga from way over here?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Because I think.
Speaker 4: Justice, you did it Justice. I tried my best.
Speaker 3: It was dope. I tried at least I gave a fuck.
Speaker 5: It was dope. I thought it was super dope. I
Speaker 5: think I mean for hip hop ads. Thank you, we
Speaker 5: appreciated it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, walk these streets were more heat than a LINESO morning. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Originally when I first was like what this did this?
Speaker 4: Oh okay?
Speaker 3: It was dope. Yeah, I just wanted again not my home,
Speaker 3: but I've been here. It's you know, I just wanted
Speaker 3: to honor the So think about it. It's like it's
Speaker 3: like a resident life, right, It's like if y'all, if
Speaker 3: y'all to produce it, let's just take us all us
Speaker 3: out the equation and just say you're gonna write a
Speaker 3: movie about a high school in Baltimore. Fuck at least
Speaker 3: do some research. But I just want to.
Speaker 2: Learn how you said some shit that resonated with us.
Speaker 3: Right, So I just for me, young boy, I'm just
Speaker 3: like I talked some shit. Then I got challenged like, well,
Speaker 3: you don't like when these soundtracks don't be sounding like
Speaker 3: LA soundtracks they giving you Miami. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 3: got homies there, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 3: not my home, but let me try my best to
Speaker 3: at least be true to the movie. I mean, not
Speaker 3: be true to the people. And I'm a kid, so
Speaker 3: whatever you're like seventeen, let's be true to the art
Speaker 3: of the movie and trying to say this stuff, which
Speaker 3: which is I guess an attempt at narration, not really acting,
Speaker 3: just narration, Like I'm just trying to narrate, like how
Speaker 3: many you know, Like I'm watching Rocketson, I'm launching Rocketson's
Speaker 3: scus and crocking and tubs Anti full of more rum
Speaker 3: than in my time, and despite high school, I'll be
Speaker 3: few Like I'm just trying to say, I'm refusing to
Speaker 3: listen to what the PTA say. Fucking four point o
Speaker 3: g p A, I gotta gt with the eta of
Speaker 3: three o'clock so shape the spot like looking and girls
Speaker 3: in the days you do specific I'm just trying to
Speaker 3: be extremely and I'm just thinking how I would feel
Speaker 3: at the time we were younger. So I'm like five
Speaker 3: years back, but if I was in high school and
Speaker 3: I'm man like, fuck these people, you know, but trying
Speaker 3: to honor. I think that's part of writing, is like
Speaker 3: I'm not fifteen anymore, I'm not twenty, but sometimes you
Speaker 3: feel we're humans. I'm sure you can remember you look
Speaker 3: at your kids and turn into your fifteen year old.
Speaker 3: You see yourself and your child like my apartment.
Speaker 4: For cutting you off?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Dapell, just use your song and love you.
Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Bring that up?
Speaker 3: Man, Yes, sir off the album.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir so new album. So you get that problem?
Speaker 3: I got problems? Thank you?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You get that rest to man, because that's not you
Speaker 1: don't have distribution, right, this is fully.
Speaker 3: Independent, totally independent. So al go straight therect of you.
Speaker 3: How that's that's pretty dope that song? How do you feel?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Brown Humble okay, super humble so made the record. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna i doom scroll. I ain't gonna lie I'll be
Speaker 3: watching ship. I end up watching like Pandas and ship.
Speaker 3: I mean like like, oh my god, the planets are amazing.
Speaker 3: They are the they are. So I was doom scrolling
Speaker 3: one time. I come across the ship about these lions
Speaker 3: in South Africa. Booms squirrel.
Speaker 4: I didn't catch.
Speaker 3: That's what Okay, okay, I mean.
Speaker 4: You know, God, yet it was called binge watching.
Speaker 3: No, I mean that is.
Speaker 2: Modern day dreams.
Speaker 3: Boom scroll. I was doing, like when you watch the
Speaker 3: whole Sopranos in one sitting. That's binging. That's binge watching.
Speaker 3: This is when you scroll any other platforms or whatever,
Speaker 3: any other platform doom scroll because evisually it's gonna be something.
Speaker 3: You're gonna die, the alien is gonna get you whatever.
Speaker 3: So I think that's why they call it doom scroll. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I was watching, so are gonna die? Can it come? No?
Speaker 2: Not you?
Speaker 3: I was saying, that's what the things say. You know,
Speaker 3: I talking to my little lovely boys, l A, okay,
Speaker 3: we get nice before the emol comes out. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna kill me. But what I
Speaker 3: don't know? Who is crazy? So go having no.
Speaker 2: You knew what I was I feel like he just
Speaker 2: became you and you became him.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened right now, bro, I get
Speaker 4: it this y'all go, y'all seek with l A B.
Speaker 3: Me catching. I'll take it. That is what happened. I
Speaker 3: do not want to smoke.
Speaker 4: So what do you get when you when you get
Speaker 4: that call?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle?
Speaker 2: See you see right?
Speaker 3: You just went wild? Right now?
Speaker 2: You went crazy?
Speaker 5: Bro, Dave Chappelle, go stay focused, rass cast stay focused.
Speaker 3: Oh ship, that's gonna be a clip right all right?
Speaker 4: No ears, how goes?
Speaker 3: Now? So cool things just dune scrolling, come across this thing.
Speaker 3: I think it's super interesting. I get very inspired. It's
Speaker 3: about these lions. They basically react differently than all lines
Speaker 3: have ever reacted because basically, what happens in most mammals,
Speaker 3: which even in the world we live in, and informs
Speaker 3: the thought of my head. So what happens with most
Speaker 3: I'm telling you squirrels, moose, mammals way deeper than this.
Speaker 3: I'm a smart nigga. Never get it fucked up smart. No,
Speaker 3: it's not weird, so so bar real quick. So most animals,
Speaker 3: if if there animals, most mammals. Oh, mammals, mammals him
Speaker 3: to murder the children of the bitch they want.
Speaker 2: Therefore, des Chappelle, I.
Speaker 3: Will, I'll get there. I love him. I'll make this fast.
Speaker 3: So it becomes Who's loud? No, don't worry about it's
Speaker 3: Milly and bores.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you watch it, Okay, So love hip hop,
Speaker 4: so long story stort.
Speaker 3: I was watching Love and hip Hop and then I
Speaker 3: doom scrolled into the lines. The point of the lines
Speaker 3: is that they behave differently. So I made a song
Speaker 3: out out of it, and then I couldn't finish it.
Speaker 3: The Eventually, uh Tupac's brother hits me and it's like,
Speaker 3: I heard this record you made, because it's the story
Speaker 3: is about six brothers. I couldn't get everybody I wanted.
Speaker 3: I had like Mopreme, like o'clock whatever. So we get
Speaker 3: the record together, put the record out, give it out
Speaker 3: for free. Fast forward like a month and a half.
Speaker 3: I get a call basically from Chappelle's no, not basically
Speaker 3: from his exec producer who used to work your priority,
Speaker 3: And she's like that, where was Chappelle? Yeah, his exact producer.
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen her in fucking fifteen years, I get
Speaker 3: a DM on the ground. I heard somebody had hit
Speaker 3: me like, Yo, Schappelle came out to your shit like
Speaker 3: this thing I put out like a month like he
Speaker 3: was already doing it in his shows. No, he came
Speaker 3: out one night like I put out the record two months.
Speaker 3: A month and a half later, somebody text me like, bro,
Speaker 3: I was in DC. Chappelle came out to your record.
Speaker 3: Out of one hundred thousand people, it was like, Bro,
Speaker 3: he came out to get ship. I'm like, that's super cool, blessing,
Speaker 3: which is cool.
Speaker 2: That's just not the life show that aired. That is it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 10: That is it?
Speaker 2: So you already knew they gave you the heads up?
Speaker 3: Oh No. What I think is he comes out to everything.
Speaker 3: Who cares? Oh you didn't know? No niggas come out
Speaker 3: to doom Doom doom, who cares. I mean, I'm like
Speaker 3: telling him, I said thanks. What I'm saying like, I
Speaker 3: wasn't there. That was in DC, bro, just.
Speaker 2: So you didn't know that was going to be that?
Speaker 2: Of course not.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're all aware of each other. We say
Speaker 3: thank you, so it's not a big deal to me.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, hey, man, that's just tell him. I said, thanks,
Speaker 3: it's dope. He came out at his home. He from
Speaker 3: DC something like that the special was going to do that. No,
Speaker 3: not at all.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that was a special.
Speaker 3: Nobody know what I'm saying. Nobody knew it. So apparently
Speaker 3: it resonated with Bro the whole line ship. That's why
Speaker 3: he showed it the way he showed it. So we
Speaker 3: got the Netflix special. Great bad, great opportunity. I was
Speaker 3: able to watch it with everything with him. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: brought me out to kick with him.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 3: No, No, he ain't Beverly Hills. You know what I'm saying, Like, sorry, buddy,
Speaker 3: See this is when the West goes wrong. You're my
Speaker 3: big brother. Don't attack me. No, that that was it.
Speaker 3: So it was really cool, man. It just came out
Speaker 3: like genuinely, you gotta sit here. It don't count. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you definitely didn't sit that. You had to control rest
Speaker 3: control you.
Speaker 4: It's not a big. One of the last things before
Speaker 4: we leave, are we are we done?
Speaker 2: We're almost done. We're about to be done. Yes, about
Speaker 2: to be done. We did three hours, but we we
Speaker 2: rocked and roll. Buddy, Oh my god, listen, listen.
Speaker 5: I want to pay all missed homie Da Vinci, Miami producers,
Speaker 5: that that that that past, that work with you and uh,
Speaker 5: can you just get some words from Da Vinci please
Speaker 5: my family to appreciate, love.
Speaker 10: To so.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I wouldn't wherever the fuck is talking?
Speaker 3: She shut out. I knew it was you. No man,
Speaker 3: thank you, don't talk. Thank you? Okay, So my my
Speaker 3: journeys with you, I'd be remiss if I didn't shout
Speaker 3: out our journey of course, friendship. I don't have a regret.
Speaker 3: And uh on you well, no funnies, but you can
Speaker 3: make fun of me. I love you and I really
Speaker 3: appreciate you. And I'm so many great brothers here and
Speaker 3: I remember like even us going to go like getting
Speaker 3: the deal and going to k Town and everything, and
Speaker 3: so you know, those are the things that are true.
Speaker 3: So with Da Vinci, he knew Resenthage before they wrapped
Speaker 3: your kids. They were there recording with Da Vinci. Wow,
Speaker 3: so so so the coast contra the contradictory coasts, they
Speaker 3: were there. They were there, they were they were there
Speaker 3: even with real facts or facts. I'm not here to
Speaker 3: try to do magical stories about what then for my
Speaker 3: sons and this journey like Da Vinci, Uh, we were
Speaker 3: working on a record.
Speaker 2: Did you connect with Chip? I'm gonna say this, yeah
Speaker 2: yeah I did. Yeah good, Yeah, yeah, you guys gonna work.
Speaker 3: On those records. Yeah yeah yeah. And his mom and
Speaker 3: come on, man.
Speaker 2: His mom, their family wants his music to be out there.
Speaker 3: His mom and Chip. So Chip will get that done again.
Speaker 2: And I want to just say something really quick. Da
Speaker 2: Vinci worked a lot with with Dyla, with Jay Dilla's family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and so and that we would be
Speaker 3: were missed. So I with with my dudes with tone
Speaker 3: like it's all family. I let them know where I stand.
Speaker 3: And that's what love is, because you know, people trying
Speaker 3: to get in because it's cool to hang out with people.
Speaker 3: It's not the same thing as like loving people. So
Speaker 3: still my brother. I was talking to the Vinci, which
Speaker 3: is you know, provable. I was working on a record.
Speaker 3: I was trying to get him like fix this hook.
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I ain't got the hook. I
Speaker 3: got a song from five years ago when I was
Speaker 3: in a different space called I Just want to Forget
Speaker 3: It All that he made with his own boy. I'll
Speaker 3: play it for you and I still want to put
Speaker 3: it out. It's crazy, but what I like is the
Speaker 3: love and I want everything going right to where it
Speaker 3: should go. Give it to the family and how we
Speaker 3: build each other, because at the end of the day
Speaker 3: we will end up on the wall. And one thing,
Speaker 3: you can't take it all out and you hope to
Speaker 3: end up on the wall. I don't want to end
Speaker 3: up in the ground. See if you end up in
Speaker 3: the ground with nobody stepping on your fucking bones after
Speaker 3: your families, then what was your blood line about? I
Speaker 3: want to I want in on the wall, not for
Speaker 3: my vanity, for my family's hard work. That's why you
Speaker 3: do this. So long lived dream, Champs, long live. Let
Speaker 3: me ask you one more question.
Speaker 1: I heard you say earlier that she was in New
Speaker 1: York with a white tea and a Rolex. And then
Speaker 1: I've seen you a couple of interviews and you had
Speaker 1: a cardier on and now you've got a big boy
Speaker 1: in Naughtilus.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's the roads go right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Are you a protect Yeah? That's protect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a big watch guy. Not really, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: I'm a k I just like ship.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'd be like what is that I want want?
Speaker 3: I want them boys. My card game is one thing.
Speaker 3: My watch game is. I don't even like so even this,
Speaker 3: I designed it. I wanted DP. I want to give
Speaker 3: it Like Kendrick, if you're born and raised in l A,
Speaker 3: I want him bef.
Speaker 4: Why why why are you l A racist?
Speaker 3: Right now? I'm not being l A racist. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: I'll do it for New York. I want to create
Speaker 3: your state.
Speaker 4: So so what that says l A on it? No,
Speaker 4: it's just okay, Californian.
Speaker 3: It's the state of California, right. I want to go
Speaker 3: New York to Florida. I want to like, I want
Speaker 3: to be like a good first one represent your ship.
Speaker 3: You know what? Can I think it'll be away, Like
Speaker 3: I want to make him beef, but it was my idea.
Speaker 3: I finally built son. Like I'm from California, I'm born
Speaker 3: and raised. My mama from Louisiana, my daddy from Arkansas.
Speaker 3: I'm from LA. I'm just trying to build something. I
Speaker 3: want to bef and I want to have enough money
Speaker 3: to bless niggas. You know what I mean? Like I
Speaker 3: love to color here and like be up and just
Speaker 3: you know what I mean you you being from Queens,
Speaker 3: make your queen ship, make your city ship go up.
Speaker 4: No, that's that's a that's a dope idea. I didn't
Speaker 4: realize that.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's Kelly LANs nigga. I made that. I be remiss.
Speaker 3: He's king. I know you know me sometimes I have fun.
Speaker 3: Let's see, ye have oneother drink? I know I want one.
Speaker 4: Michelle shouldn't know me, You.
Speaker 1: Bother hilarious love me?
Speaker 3: You know me? Let me dick.
Speaker 4: Come on, bro, oh ship, forget.
Speaker 3: That. You take another drink. You know he knows so
Speaker 3: many dirtier things about me.
Speaker 2: That is I don't even know. Holy some weird some
Speaker 2: weird morning you.
Speaker 3: Know all you know all emails quit about me?
Speaker 1: Is anything you think we gotta say anything before?
Speaker 3: For okay, it's like Michael Ring.
Speaker 4: Okay, what the bunk was that word?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Listen, no real quick, real quick, bang on me.
Speaker 3: No like I'm trying to create.
Speaker 2: A serious ship, serious ship.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: First of all, thank you, bro, because you got on
Speaker 5: my album, you got on my mixtapes.
Speaker 3: I never liked you.
Speaker 2: I never like that makes me thank you.
Speaker 3: That we wouldn't be here today if artists didn't believe.
Speaker 2: In what I was doing and mess with me and man,
Speaker 2: obviously this is the biggest example of it now yea,
Speaker 2: and now come on the ring like you've been brilliant.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was before, so I knew him before they even
Speaker 3: stepped in in brilliance and that's dope. It's just that's
Speaker 3: what it takes.
Speaker 4: It takes us, James, honestly.
Speaker 2: So all's well, thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to talk about your fetish with midgets
Speaker 5: or or or or spipe well.
Speaker 3: Here, I'm going to see this is where you gets weak.
Speaker 4: But watch out.
Speaker 3: That's not all.
Speaker 4: Watch out.
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