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Speaker 2: We've got some juicy career questions today. Let's take our
Speaker 2: first question. Let's do listeners, Steph, Steph on Ig. By
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Speaker 2: Just your question there. All right, So Steph has a
Speaker 2: great question. She says, Hello, ladies, I'm a huge fan
Speaker 2: of the podcast. Thank you for all that you do.
Speaker 2: I'll get right to it. I have been headhunted by
Speaker 2: one of my company's direct competitors and it's looking like
Speaker 2: they will give me a job offer. The position would
Speaker 2: be a lateral move, but it pays much more than
Speaker 2: I make Right right now, that said, I don't want
Speaker 2: to work for them. I've not heard great things about
Speaker 2: the company, and I'm currently very happy with where I'm working,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that I believe I should be paid
Speaker 2: a higher salary. My question, once I've received the job offer,
Speaker 2: do I turn it down and never say a word
Speaker 2: to my boss, or do I tell my boss that
Speaker 2: I've been headhunted by a competitor to see if my
Speaker 2: company can match the offer. I'm afraid that if he
Speaker 2: says our company can't match it, I'll have to leave
Speaker 2: my job and work at a company I don't like.
Speaker 1: This is all you manage it, I'm like, woo, I love.
Speaker 2: This question so much. First and foremost, Steph, even though
Speaker 2: you hate this company, it's amazing that you have been
Speaker 2: headhunted because that tells me immediately that you have a
Speaker 2: strong professional brand. Like they needed someone to fill this role.
Speaker 2: They found you on LinkedIn, I'm sure, or some other
Speaker 2: avenue and they were like, Steph, this is our girl.
Speaker 2: She has what we need sight unseen. So that's great,
Speaker 2: and you should be flattered and feel good about the
Speaker 2: fact that you were headhunted. Don't lose sight of the
Speaker 2: fact that you have some leverage here. So I know
Speaker 2: that you have this competing offer, and like you're nervous
Speaker 2: because you think if you go to your manager and say, hey,
Speaker 2: they've got a competing offer, that they're maybe just going
Speaker 2: to show you the door and be like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: can't match that, so you can go work for you
Speaker 2: know whoever down the street. But here's the thing, Like,
Speaker 2: if you are really good at your job and they
Speaker 2: really value you, I highly doubt that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Like this job market, it's hard to find great talent
Speaker 2: these days, and it's very expensive to go back from
Speaker 2: ground zero and have to start recruiting for a new
Speaker 2: role again. So I honestly would walk into a conversation
Speaker 2: with your boss. And to be clear, I think you
Speaker 2: definitely should talk to your boss about this, because this
Speaker 2: is one of the best strategies you can use to
Speaker 2: get a raise at the place where you currently work.
Speaker 2: And I coach people who have a lot less leverage,
Speaker 2: who literally are just like I've been given more responsibilities.
Speaker 2: You know, I've done some market research and I think
Speaker 2: that I should be paid this, and then they make
Speaker 2: a case to their managers and they've gotten it. You
Speaker 2: actually have a company who's telling you, like, here's a
Speaker 2: hard offer telling you that you're worth more. So that
Speaker 2: is actual leverage. And if your company, like again, if
Speaker 2: you're great at your job and you're highly valued, you
Speaker 2: should be able to go to them, like you know,
Speaker 2: respectfully and say, hey, here's the thing. I've been headhunted.
Speaker 2: I've got this competing offer. You guys. I want to
Speaker 2: stay here, like I definitely do, but I can't ignore
Speaker 2: the fact that I have been valued more by a competitor.
Speaker 2: And so I want to give you guys an opportunity
Speaker 2: to match this offer or get as close as possible
Speaker 2: and then stop talking and let them take it into
Speaker 2: the whatever room they're going to take it to, let
Speaker 2: him forward the email on to HR and figure out
Speaker 2: what they can do for you. Then it's really up
Speaker 2: to you, Like they may come back to you and say, hey,
Speaker 2: we cannot, you know, get you all the way here,
Speaker 2: but we can get you part of the way. You know,
Speaker 2: we can maybe give you a retention bonus now and
Speaker 2: revisit it a later time in the year, whatever, then
Speaker 2: it's up to you do you want to stay or
Speaker 2: do you want to take that offer. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think ultimately is the money going to be worth you
Speaker 2: being miserable, Especially if you have a good idea that
Speaker 2: the place you're going to work is not the place
Speaker 2: for you, then this may not just be the opportunity
Speaker 2: for you right now. But I wouldn't look at it
Speaker 2: at a loss. Like let's say they decide they're not
Speaker 2: going to match the offer, and you're exactly where you
Speaker 2: started out, still working for this company, knowing that you're underpaid.
Speaker 2: I and sometimes you can feel like, oh, well, I
Speaker 2: haven't really accomplished anything, but I think you have. I think,
Speaker 2: for one, you've verified that you're being underpaid and you
Speaker 2: should look yourself for other jobs that you will love
Speaker 2: that will pay you more. And on top of that,
Speaker 2: you've like made a great connection in another company, and
Speaker 2: your professional brand you've been confirmed is really strong. So
Speaker 2: this to me, for you is like.
Speaker 1: A win win.
Speaker 2: But I definitely would take the offer to your boss,
Speaker 2: give them a chance to match it. But then you
Speaker 2: got to make the best choice for yourself. And I
Speaker 2: know I'm all about quitting your way rich, but I'm
Speaker 2: not quitting your way miserable, Like that's not what I'm about. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think you should just taste dollar signs just
Speaker 2: to be chasing them. So I'm really glad that you
Speaker 2: sent this question. Congratulations and I want an update.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this as a as a boss, you
Speaker 1: know who has employees. I'll say that if one of
Speaker 1: my top amazing performing employees came to me and said,
Speaker 1: hey to me, honestly, you know, I love working your girl,
Speaker 1: but this other place is you know, going to offer
Speaker 1: to pay me this, and you know, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to see if they could be matched. Honestly, I would
Speaker 1: look in. I would absolutely I would hit a first price.
Speaker 1: Person I would call is George, who's my CFO, and
Speaker 1: I would say, based upon our company size and our financials,
Speaker 1: you know, can we afford to match? You know, so
Speaker 1: I would be looking to keep you, you know, or
Speaker 1: if we can't afford to match, she might say, Honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, based upon our company size and our revenue whatever,
Speaker 1: we can't do a full but we could do sixty
Speaker 1: or seventy percent. I would offer you something if I
Speaker 1: thought you brought a lot to the table, you know,
Speaker 1: because always I'm thinking to myself what's best for the
Speaker 1: overall company, you know, But what's best for the overall
Speaker 1: company is also not only to worry about the financials,
Speaker 1: but to have the best people working here. So to
Speaker 1: Mandy's point, you know, like it doesn't there's no harm.
Speaker 1: If if like my best employee came and told me this,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, oh my gosh. And then but
Speaker 1: I'd be on my p's and q's like what what
Speaker 1: can I offer more? What can I do to compensate
Speaker 1: them in other ways? You know? Can I give them
Speaker 1: Fridays off? Because you know, when you illustrate your oprah,
Speaker 1: meaning that you illustrate your value to such a high
Speaker 1: level that is undeniable and undoubtable, people will make room
Speaker 1: for you. And so don't be afraid to step into
Speaker 1: your great is this they recognize.
Speaker 2: You, girl. It's like when someone else says that someone's cute,
Speaker 2: Like when you're dating someone, they're getting a little complacent.
Speaker 2: Then they find out someone else hit on you. They're like,
Speaker 2: oh wait a second, my girl is really cute. Like
Speaker 2: that's it's very much like relationships. But I'm excited for you, Steph,
Speaker 2: will you please send us an update? Y'all can't leeve
Speaker 2: was hanging like this? We love updates. All right, let's
Speaker 2: take a quick break out and be back with another
Speaker 2: of your BAQ and A's. Tiff what's our next question?
Speaker 2: I actually just.
Speaker 1: Our next question sheet. It comes from Sarah on IG.
Speaker 1: Yes you get up us up on IG. We are
Speaker 1: Brown Vision Podcast on Instagram and Sarah said, Hey, Tiffany
Speaker 1: and Mandy, what are your thoughts on the over employment
Speaker 1: movement happening? And honestly I never heard of the overemployment movement?
Speaker 1: Can you? What is that? Mandy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So being over employed these days is basically because
Speaker 2: of how many places are now allowing people to work remote.
Speaker 2: People who have more time on their hands because they're
Speaker 2: not commute, you know, for example, they've got more time
Speaker 2: available and they've got more flexibility. They're taking on more jobs.
Speaker 2: So like you see people doing gig work, like freelancing
Speaker 2: work or in like I've actually had a coaching client
Speaker 2: who who hired me to talk her through a situation
Speaker 2: where she kept her full time job. I think she
Speaker 2: was based in Arizona, kept her full time job, took
Speaker 2: another job that hired her. They were based in New York,
Speaker 2: but were allowing her to stay remote, so between the
Speaker 2: time difference, she was able to like have a nine
Speaker 2: to five work day doing two jobs. And the reason
Speaker 2: she did that was not to necessarily, we'll take advantage
Speaker 2: of the situation, but because she wasn't sure the second
Speaker 2: job was going to work out and she wanted to
Speaker 2: like give them ninety days, but she was afraid to
Speaker 2: quit her other job. I would not recommend that. That's
Speaker 2: all kinds of if people find out, like I feel
Speaker 2: like there would be a way for someone to find out,
Speaker 2: I would not recommend that. But I definitely know a
Speaker 2: lot of people who are taking on a lot of
Speaker 2: extra work because they feel like, oh, I've got these
Speaker 2: extra hours in the days, So why wouldn't I, you know,
Speaker 2: be trying to squeeze this for all I can and
Speaker 2: get more money out of it. I mean, my only
Speaker 2: thought is for people who are wanting to advance in
Speaker 2: their careers, I would just make sure that the additional
Speaker 2: work that you're taking on is helping you gain new
Speaker 2: skill sets or get experience for the path that you
Speaker 2: want to go on in the future. So, especially for pivoters, Like,
Speaker 2: if you're someone who's you're working in a field now
Speaker 2: and you want to go into a new field, I'm
Speaker 2: talking to you educators. I talk to so many educators
Speaker 2: to teachers who yes and they want a new path.
Speaker 2: And one of the things we're usually lacking is you
Speaker 2: know that hard experience, like the hard and like the
Speaker 2: skills or the showing your work like a portfolio or something.
Speaker 2: So I've got teacher clients who are like taking a
Speaker 2: course on the side and then taking on freelance work
Speaker 2: to like build up their portfolio. I think that's smart,
Speaker 2: because that's getting you to where you want to go.
Speaker 2: I don't know about people who are like taking on
Speaker 2: a bunch of work just for the sake of doing it.
Speaker 2: Like maybe your goal is just to make some extra cash.
Speaker 2: But if I were doing it, then I would say,
Speaker 2: choose a side gig or choose another job that is
Speaker 2: able to like propel you forward in your career or
Speaker 2: business or whatever you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: No, I see that because honestly, when I I mean
Speaker 1: now that I understand what that means. When I was
Speaker 1: a teacher, I used to have summers off, and I
Speaker 1: knew it was different, but I knew a lot of
Speaker 1: teachers that would work in the summer, you know, so
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I've got two jobs, but I've got,
Speaker 1: you know, like my school time job and then I
Speaker 1: have my summer job or too. Sometimes I also know,
Speaker 1: like so a Drew and he was working for housing.
Speaker 1: He one of his closest friends was a super at housing,
Speaker 1: but also on the weekends worked at a hospital because
Speaker 1: he had his boiler license, so he would keep like
Speaker 1: the boilers and the and you know, the acs and
Speaker 1: things running at the hospital. So, you know, because it
Speaker 1: provided extra money. And honestly, the lift was super light.
Speaker 1: So I just think that, you know, like when incorporating
Speaker 1: additional work, to Mandy's point, unless it's necessary to keep
Speaker 1: your family afloat. You need food, you need shelter, you
Speaker 1: need safety, you need medicine and transportation. You know, like
Speaker 1: taking on work that overworks you, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: temporary solution at best, because you know it's only but
Speaker 1: so long before you're going to exhaust yourself. My advice
Speaker 1: has always been like, if you're taking on extra work
Speaker 1: just for extra money for your pocket, to look for
Speaker 1: something that is an extension of what you currently do.
Speaker 1: To Mandy's point, like, it's like, okay, it can propel
Speaker 1: you forward. But also too, I like that too because
Speaker 1: oftentimes there's not a new skill set, especially if I
Speaker 1: want to do light lift stuff like I used to
Speaker 1: tutor and babysit on the side when I taught preschool.
Speaker 1: It was super easy. I got off at three, I
Speaker 1: picked whatever kid up at like three thirty till five
Speaker 1: thirty extra mo money for my pocket. Plus I got
Speaker 1: paid extra because I was a teacher, you know. Or
Speaker 1: to do something where you already have like a certification
Speaker 1: or whatever, it will lead to that, because that can
Speaker 1: lead to extra pay as well, or just an increase
Speaker 1: in knowledge base so you can take that with you
Speaker 1: wherever you want to go. So yeah, I'm all for
Speaker 1: making extra money, but not overworking yourself unless it's absolutely
Speaker 1: necessary to support yourself and to create safety for yourself
Speaker 1: and your family.
Speaker 2: And y'all be careful if you're working full time jobs
Speaker 2: back to back or even a part time job, keep
Speaker 2: that stuff separate, Like I wouldn't be doing work for
Speaker 2: one job on your other jobs. Company provided computer like
Speaker 2: that will get you fired in a swiftness, with the quickness, okay,
Speaker 2: so keep things separate. You have to be really good
Speaker 2: at time management, so like be realistic about what you
Speaker 2: can actually handle in a given day, because I think
Speaker 2: it will catch up to you. And I feel like
Speaker 2: also companies are getting savvier and they're starting to implement
Speaker 2: like time tracking systems and things like that. So I
Speaker 2: think now they're getting savvier. We're a couple of years
Speaker 2: into this pandemonium, so maybe the jig will be up
Speaker 2: for some people. But if you guys are working multiple
Speaker 2: full time jobs, I want to hear from you. Please
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