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Speaker 1: Celebrity club. Nothing tastes better than the fourteenth egg of

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Speaker 1: the day. Something's gotta feed the hulk, Hollywood Hulk, that is.

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Speaker 2: Could you come into the computer lounge per minute? I

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Speaker 2: want to show you something.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I bet you do some of that new internet porn.

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Speaker 1: Feeling a little freaky, Linda, keep.

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Speaker 2: It in your tiny banana colored short. Yeah, hey, babe, listen,

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Speaker 2: I want to show you some different fabrics I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at for our gorgeous new French inspired villa we're building

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Speaker 2: in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: Man, if I didn't love you, I mean, and you

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Speaker 1: have that bod, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, you know, but you know where my

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Speaker 2: TETs are gonna look amazing. They're gonna look amazing. And

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Speaker 2: our brand new eighty five meter long pool, now this

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Speaker 2: is just like they have it for sales. I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna look really really nice. What do you think

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Speaker 2: for sales? Where's that? That's in France? My dumb, huge,

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Speaker 1: Hey, Linda, I'm three point fifteen, and it's gonna stay

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Speaker 1: that way. Having a French themed house sounds kind of sexy,

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Speaker 1: voulat vous of a quah a wall. That's the saying, right.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you're getting me nice and wet. Okay, now

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Speaker 2: what about this nice armoire here? This is Louis XIV.

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Speaker 1: It's a This is freaking one hundred thousand dollars. I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, honey, I think you can manage it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: don't you want us to live in our perfect dream house.

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Speaker 2: Don't you want me and my tits to be happy?

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Speaker 1: No, of course, Lenda, I do anything for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll go with the expensive armor in the

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Speaker 2: eighty five meter pool. And then I'm just gonna need

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Speaker 2: a statue. Do you want the little boy pissing or.

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Speaker 1: I'm not having any little dick statues in my house. Okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess since you're my man and I respect.

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Speaker 1: You, all right, babe, here's my discovery card. Just go wild.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Hobby Kins.

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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.

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Speaker 2: You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and you've got books

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Speaker 2: and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 1: It's Hollywood, it's books.

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Speaker 3: It's gossip.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's memoir.

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Speaker 2: It's Martini.

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Speaker 3: Celebrity puff Club. Come read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity poof Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 3: No boys are loud celet book say it loud and poud.

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Speaker 1: Club bus me in. I brought the Queer Foe. Hey

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Speaker 1: be friends, ready for roll domination this episode. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: to the ring. Stephen the Newton.

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Speaker 2: The Rock. Stephen Newton the Rock.

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Speaker 1: I'm riffing here. Look, please welcome to the stage.

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Speaker 2: Lily all the way from the.

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Speaker 1: Stephen all the way from his little bitch ass apartment

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Speaker 1: in Ridgewood. He's feeling crazy because he's been lifting so

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Speaker 2: All the way from the homeless section of the YMCA

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Speaker 2: and dim miss Park.

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Speaker 1: It's Lily the meat bomber rot on. We're doing Hult

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Speaker 1: Cookin today. Yesterday, listening to the audiobook of this while

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Speaker 2: What is this about this book which again just sort

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand and three. It's really before the drama.

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Speaker 2: I was obsessed with it because there's so much like

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Speaker 2: They're headquartered in Stanford.

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Speaker 1: They're in Stanford. That's why because like every time, when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got unearth those, but kind.

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Speaker 2: His parents met in the Panama Canal. Oh iconic, this

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Speaker 1: But actually you practice like sodom egamore and you are

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Speaker 2: Or as he says often in the book, hell no brother.

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Speaker 2: I do like that. Yeah. It's like like when you're

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked about kfab a lot, which is

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Speaker 1: Well, we're doing the two generations because it's like hul Cogan.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like now everyone knows like quote unquote

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Speaker 1: And it's like always like this kid and like a

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Speaker 1: it's not fake.

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Speaker 3: Remember this all happened. He was like, somehow we managed

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Speaker 1: And then it's also funny referring to his seventies like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I haven't seen these Vampire Weekend.

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Speaker 2: like Donna Summers playing like really tintally from like a

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Speaker 1: Like, Okay, well, I just saw the Kristen Stewart lesbian

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Speaker 2: Like in that movie Personal Shopper in Closestysia, like she's always.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, my crotake this movie. I wish that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like her bodybuilder girlfriend kills her sister's

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Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds a little convoluted, trying to do too much.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is what I always tell young screenwriters.

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Speaker 2: Says he starts taking Staraids in nineteen seventy five, and

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Speaker 3: We didn't talk for a while because he thought that

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Speaker 3: I was collaborating with the Fence, but they didn't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, wait, I am mad.

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Speaker 2: But he's very like, yeah, we were all doing it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anything was wrong. People told me I

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Speaker 2: take it, I'll get bigger, and man, did I want

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing about steroids and professional sports speak on it. Girl,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this has always been the thing in sports.

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Speaker 1: It and they get suspended and fired and everyone's getting

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Speaker 2: Why don't you just make it mandatory for everybody?

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Speaker 1: Literally, I'm just like with the wrestlers, they're all like

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Speaker 2: But teens go to the gym.

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Speaker 2: I just also think it's there's something too like hustle

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Speaker 2: But I heard these guys the other day talking they

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Speaker 2: very Bonds but like.

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Speaker 2: And like Wesley Snipes didn't pays taxes. Nineties is about

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Speaker 2: that your gym looking like our guys being like jacked

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Speaker 2: like it's in the ether, like everyone that's doing it.

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00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: And there's definitely some bodies that are too wide, where

438
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: the shoulders are too broad, and you're like, this is right.

439
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: Well, and so Hulk talks about when he was three,

440
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: like thirty or three fifteen, when he was on steroids,

441
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: and then he's like, no, I'm like two eighty five

442
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: or like two fifty.

443
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy was fucking huge.

444
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: He was huge, But I will say I felt watching

445
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: some epic eighties hualth matches. I think he's less huge

446
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: than like the guys today.

447
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 2: Mmmmm.

448
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: I feel like everything will except for Andre the Giant.

449
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: We talks about picking up Andre the Giant, and he

450
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: was like, and I want to give people a fight

451
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 2: they'll never forget. I'm gonna body slam Andre the Giant.

452
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: That scene was actually incredibly homoerotic. When he's just.

453
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: Describing he goes, I came up to his crotch. He

454
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: was like, his crotch came up to my high chest.

455
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: And then he's talking about sliding his arm underneath through

456
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: the legs of Andre the Giant, and you're just like, damn,

457
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: this is so erotic.

458
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: And google this match if you have not.

459
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: How big is Andrea's giant? Do you think so?

460
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: I think Andrea the Giant is like seven feed.

461
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: And you think he's got an elephant trunk on that.

462
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: I actually think it's not. I feel like he's so

463
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: huge proportionally, it just doesn't add up because nothing can.

464
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: And then it actually kind of looks small in relation

465
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: to the rest of them, so.

466
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: It might surprise you. And maybe we said this on

467
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: our wrestling episode like seven hundred years ago that Steven

468
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: and I used to go to see Ring of Honor,

469
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: which is basically like training ground for WWF. It's like

470
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: a league that's like semi professional.

471
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: No. I love this. In the book, we talked about

472
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: when he's first starting wrestling in Tampa, going to the

473
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: armory where we literally went to go see Red of Honor.

474
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: In the Greater Boston area, we went to many shows.

475
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Many shows that were like VFW Hall's armories.

476
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: And it's basically, yeah, it's a feeder to the WWE.

477
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: Sush f right.

478
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: Because it still is like characters and and I remember

479
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: there was that guy CM Punk.

480
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: He's probably a pro now maybe it's even.

481
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: Punk is retired now, but did you go he went

482
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: pro and he was like huge and like the twenty.

483
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: In the Northeast region.

484
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: Well yeah, So ultimately talk about a lot of like

485
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: the wrestling territories and this is when like WWF.

486
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: But what I loved about going to those things was

487
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: a lot of what I like about this book is

488
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: like the sense of camaraderie, yes, and even just going

489
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: for the first time, Like there's all this lore, there's

490
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: all this narrative.

491
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: It's really fun because it's like it is a play.

492
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: It's like a bad ass fun play. You were watching

493
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: with like lots of music.

494
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: You're rooting for the characters, and all the characters.

495
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: Have much Well, wait, and I want to talk about

496
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: how like I think wrestling like besides, like rock music

497
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: is like the biggest creator of merch, like.

498
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: The biggest contributor to global warming vacher like.

499
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: Global warming merch like music, and then like wrestling, wrestling

500
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: walks of podcasting could run with merch, Like wrestling merch

501
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: was like the biggest thing in the nineties, like eighties,

502
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: like I remember with my cousin, like us with the

503
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: Hull Cogan stretch doll, oh like juch Armstrong and you

504
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: like pull it and it gets like big and it's

505
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: like there was a million T shirts. Oh and so

506
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan he said he made more money, which is

507
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: maybe why people get into wrestling, more money on T

508
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: shirts at one point than he did.

509
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's getting a paltry fee. He's get a

510
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: couple grand for a show, but he is selling T

511
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: shirts like hotcakes out of the back of.

512
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: His car, back of his car, and he's going back

513
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: to the mall to get them like printed, Yeah, which

514
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: is insane. And he says, support your local mall.

515
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: Printer shirt printer boy.

516
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: Just back to the comraderie and wrestling and like something

517
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: about like boy culture. Wrestling was kind of it's not

518
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: for the popular boys. Hmm, Like there is something like

519
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: metal about it.

520
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: Like it's also like nerdy because of the lower aspect

521
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 2: of it, and so it like requires like memories and

522
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: all this stuff. I mean, I guess like anything has

523
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: that like baseball, can also be nerd out about baseball.

524
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: True, but I just feel like the wrestling like it

525
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: does bring like a bigger kind of like community that

526
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: you can be a little more like badass. I'm in

527
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 1: my like all black, you know, stone Cold Steve Austin

528
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: T shirt. Maybe I'm like a little chubby like it

529
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: lets you kind of get into the comic book like

530
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: lore of all these guys where it's like basketball and baseball.

531
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean its stats and like watching.

532
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: It, it is stats, and I think that there is

533
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: something more, if you will, and there's a comedyassive and

534
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: communitarian about the wrestling world. It's less like just a

535
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: rote like display of performance and just like well, these

536
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: people are the best and this team was the best,

537
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: Like you know, growing up, it was like in the nineties,

538
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 2: there was always just like the Yankees are the best

539
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: team and they have the best people. There's something more

540
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: like fascistic about that almost versus wrestling, which is more

541
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: like we know it's a play and theater is actually

542
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: quite gay.

543
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean, also let's just talk about actually wrestling. It's sex.

544
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: A lot of men. It's a lot of men bury

545
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: in their faces and other men's crotches.

546
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: My girlfriend and I were at a local bobby the

547
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: other day Shenanigans, and there was MMA on and we

548
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: were just kind of being so like laughing at it

549
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: because they were just like straight up like humping each

550
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: other and being so just like my face literally burying

551
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: in dick. And then the bartender like looked at us

552
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: and he thought we were being like girls who were

553
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: like offended by fighting. And he was like, oh, I'm sorry,

554
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Like do you want me to And he was wearing

555
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: a wrestling T shirt and he was like, do you

556
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: want me to change it?

557
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: Do you want me to change my T shirt? No?

558
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: No? No? The TV?

559
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: Oh god.

560
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: He thought we were like he thought we were like

561
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: being offended by the like MMA, and we were like,

562
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: oh no, like we're just like laughing it looks like sex,

563
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: and he like did not laugh. Then he was being

564
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: so serious guy who's just like that's just what fighting is. Like,

565
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. It's not sexual

566
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: at all.

567
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: So your two options were either like be offending because

568
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: it's too violent, yeah, or or not understanding.

569
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: Like stupid girl, too big girls.

570
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: Well, you were kind of like making fun of his culture.

571
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: I was, and it's like here, I was trying to

572
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: fit in at the divey Irish bar, and then I

573
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: was just being like, this is ridiculous.

574
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: I mean, MMA is a whole other thing that we

575
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: don't have time to.

576
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: We don't have time for it. I just want to

577
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: say one thing about m A is that, like I

578
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: think mmas came about as a rejection of the Vince

579
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: McMahon wwe like culture.

580
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: Yes, of it being too fake. Literally it's been too

581
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: fake frankly too fun.

582
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like, oh no, we need to go

583
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: back to actually being like a little more like class

584
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity.

585
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's just like you're doing a mix of

586
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: like karate and taekwondo, tai and mu tie and boxing.

587
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: And it's like actually real fighting, not just like you

588
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: know these fake moves, but they are over the moves,

589
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: like when Hulk Cogan describes like when he first realized

590
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: he was fake, he was like, so actually he like

591
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: taught me how to like hook my arm around his ear,

592
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: pull it this way to the side, touch this part

593
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: of his neck. Then he would pass out for five minutes.

594
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Right, And so it's like he's actually learning ways to

595
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: not hurt your opponent and to make it look like

596
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: you are. But still when they're doing flips and bodies

597
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: on each other all those other shit, it's like, that's

598
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: not easy stuff to do, and it's very taxing on

599
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: the body. I loved early on when he's talking about

600
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: the other wrestlers, he's just like you got Ox Baker,

601
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: Packsong Man, the Giant Korean, the Missouri Maler, the Iron Chic.

602
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's what I say. We met Ox Baker

603
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: at of Honor.

604
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: Oh and he also had like kind of an insane

605
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: go tee.

606
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and looked like he was like severely like possibly

607
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: mentally damaged by that point that we met him, which

608
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: is too bad. And maybe that was before some kind

609
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: of safety features. But so at this Ring of Honor,

610
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: like Ox Baker was there, and I think he was

611
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: like a seventies sixties wrestling legend and he is like

612
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: this huge man, bald, handlebar, mustache, weighed I don't know,

613
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: three to four hundred pounds. And I remember I got merch,

614
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: I got a T shirt with him signed it, and

615
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: then I got some eight x ten that I think

616
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: I still have.

617
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen that in your hand. Yeah, and you

618
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: felt like you were part of the club, part of

619
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: the club.

620
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: You know.

621
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: A tidbit I left from this was how he got

622
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: the name Hulk Hogan. He got the name Hulk because

623
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: he was on a TV show with lou Fregno, who

624
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: was playing the Hulk, the Incredible Hulk, and he was

625
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: like whoa, and he was like, I had the upper hand.

626
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: Lu Fregno had a speech impediment, so we had trouble

627
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: talking and I said, I'm the real Hulk because I

628
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: was bigger than him. I was tipping the scales at

629
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: three fifteen. And then he got Holgan because like Vince

630
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: sick Man or whatever, was like, well, we already have

631
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: we have an Italian, we have Bruno San Martino, we

632
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: have a Native American, we have Chief j Strongboat, we

633
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: have a Polish, we have Ivan Putski, we have a

634
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican, we got Paige Morales. We don't have anyone

635
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: to represent the Irish block, which.

636
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: I know, like, fuck, we need an Irish wrestler. You're

637
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna be our And he's like, so I'm literally not Irish.

638
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm Italian, Panamanian, I love Irish passing, and

639
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: you're just like so you're now going to permanently represent

640
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: the Irish. It's like, I don't know if the Irish

641
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: people ever felt represented by Hull Cocaine.

642
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: Now as someone you know who's fantasy Irish Italian. I

643
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: was never like, oh, Hull Cocaine is my my people.

644
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I think that was before he took on the full hall,

645
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: like hul Caamania was invented in full Like his yellow

646
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: red colors that he made, which he said, quote unquote

647
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: were inspired by the colors of McDonald's.

648
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: He was like, shout out to McDonald's. You guys did

649
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: it first.

650
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: He's like, McDonald's just a big successful chain. So yeah,

651
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: those are powerful colors. Brother, So I want to make

652
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: my colors very well.

653
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: But you know what, they are very bright colors. They're

654
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: very saturated. Also, the cover of the book he's wearing

655
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: to BoA's. That is what I'm saying. It's like wrestling

656
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: is so gay and fun.

657
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. It's like and boas the whole thing was.

658
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is Hulk stuff, but it's that his

659
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: shirt would always like rip in the back because he

660
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: was the incredible like Hulk. But it's like that's also

661
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: just a top at Rainbow to have.

662
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: Like little in the back. It's very rainbow.

663
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: He's in like a red boa little shorts. But it's

664
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter because you're like, well, I'm three

665
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, so that's fine. I do want to just

666
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: talk about his marriage and Gawker like.

667
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we already't got into that, I know. And

668
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: also the thing about the mansion in the South of

669
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: France and Richard Belzer from Lawn Order.

670
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: So this is an insane story that probably like the

671
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: weirdest story in the book is Vince McMahon out of

672
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: WWF is like you and mister T need to go

673
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: do this like random show and it's called Hot Properties.

674
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: And he gets a call from Linda McMahon and she's

675
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: just like, I've got fifty kids in wheelchairs. You need

676
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: to go to Richard Belzer's Hot Properties in like Sarasota

677
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: and you need to go say hi to the fifty

678
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: kids in wheelchairs.

679
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: So they like do this show and then mister T

680
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: with Richard Belzer and like and.

681
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: When we say Richard Beltser, we mean literally the guy

682
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: from SVU like that who I guess had.

683
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: Like a local Florida cable access show called Hot Properties.

684
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: Which was not a real estate show. It sounds like no.

685
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: And apparently the fifty kids and wheelchairs was a myth.

686
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: It was literally just a ruse to get mister T

687
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: and Hulk Hogan to show up at the TV Star.

688
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: Another subplot of this book is like mister T really

689
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: doubting himself for wrestling and spiraling a lot and always

690
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: like leaving practice because he can't handle it, and Hulk

691
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: being like mister T, brother, come.

692
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: On, no, I mean the two of them with all

693
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: eight of their brain cells. That sounds so funny and

694
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: like he's always agreed. Like mister T was mad. He

695
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: wasn't talking. He was just yanking on that parking meter,

696
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: like describing some large object that mister T carries around

697
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: and like works out with in some way.

698
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Mister T is just being like, I pity the fool

699
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: who has to go to you, Richard Bells.

700
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: And then like when and like whenever mister T does talk,

701
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: he literally is just saying I pitied a fool, and

702
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: it's just like getting mad and being like, no, you fools,

703
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: you're not gonna let me knock get into the garden

704
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: with my entourage. Like, and then is yanking on his

705
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: meter and Hulk's like, come on, man, come on, brother,

706
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: come on.

707
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: Brother, and Hulk has been like actually a little more

708
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: being like and you know what turned out, mister t

709
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: was actually just scared of performing at Madison Square Garden

710
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: exactly why he.

711
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Sees the vulnerability and strong men.

712
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Male friendship. Okay, so they go to this Richard Belser show.

713
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Richard Bilser's like, come on, do a move on me,

714
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: and Hulk is like, I don't know, like should I?

715
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: And then he does, and like Richard Belser is like

716
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: that's fine, tricks them and sues Vincigman and Hulk.

717
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's just say he passes out. He drops

718
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: him from the hold he hits. He slams his head

719
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: on the floor and is bleeding and then he's like

720
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: it colored, that was great. I loved it, and then

721
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: sues them for five mil.

722
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Then Richard Belser wins.

723
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Vince Nickmaon and and Hulk pay him five mil.

724
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: So Richard Bilser kind of tricked Hulk into like fucking

725
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: him up.

726
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: So during this time, Terry Malaya is his.

727
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Real name, Yeah, Terry Balaya.

728
00:35:50,120 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 2: His first wife Linda she's building her dream house in Florida.

729
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: And she traveled to France to do of research on

730
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: French chateaus and you know it's cost him a lot. Yeah,

731
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: but he's like, you know, happy wife, halfy life.

732
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: And as she's doing her research, she stumbles upon an

733
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: article that mentions Richard Belzer and his new chateau in

734
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: the south of France that he won with the lawsuit

735
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: money and named Shae Hogan.

736
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: Like literally naming it Shae Hogan, just being like it's

737
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: so rude. And it's like he actually got the chateau

738
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: in France and she's just doing a cheesy ass recreation

739
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: in Tampa. Yeah, which I did watch the Cribs from

740
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: OH five and it's pretty epic.

741
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, save it for how save it for?

742
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: How does she live?

743
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let's briefly get into Gawker.

744
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: The Gawker scandal is just not covering this book because

745
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: this book ended in two thousand and three, was before

746
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: he was divorced from Linda Hogan. It was before his

747
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: daughter was talking to him, and was before a sex

748
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: tape of him fucking his best friend who his name

749
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: like Bubba Gump love.

750
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: Right, his best friend's like wife, and it was apparently

751
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: a rival DJ that like to Bubba Gump Love, who

752
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: was like a Tampa area DJ and a rival DJ

753
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: like released the tape to Gawker to like make him

754
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: look bad.

755
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, And basically Hulkogan was Peter Teele's puppet to

756
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: bring down.

757
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Peter Teal had an actagram with Gawker because

758
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: Nick Denton, Gocker founder, had like called him out for

759
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: being gay. Because back at the time, in like the

760
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: two thousand and nines era, Gker was like very outing

761
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: people and they were always just being like everyone knows

762
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Anderson Cooper is gay.

763
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: And and died and Peter this PayPal co founder, and it's.

764
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: Like everyone did know Anderson Cooper was gay, and like

765
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: they were like bold and brash for doing that. And

766
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: you know, to this day, people will be like, you know,

767
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: like that has an aged Well that was wrong of them,

768
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of just like, I think it's fine

769
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: that they did that.

770
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Outing Anderson Cooper. I have no problem with that.

771
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm just like, especially people like Teal and Cooper, like

772
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: they're any big public figures and everyone does know, it's

773
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: kind of okay to like turn the gossip into news

774
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: in that context.

775
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: Right now, it's so, you know, you really are not

776
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: supposed to out people, and the media really respects some

777
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: folk in the glass closet.

778
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: They are obsessed with the amount of respect for the

779
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: people in the closet where it's like they still won't

780
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: call Lindsay Graham gay or whatever, and.

781
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: It's very just like what that's like, we know yet

782
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: hul Cogan.

783
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, so Peter Teal us Hulk Coogan

784
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: as a puppet. I mean, do you think Hulk a

785
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: knows that Peter Teal was using him? B do you

786
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 2: think he even cares.

787
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: That's why I think Hulkhan was so in his own

788
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: like whol Comania world that he's like, I can't believe

789
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: Bubba Gump the DJ did did this to me very

790
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: locally or locally in the Greater clear Water area. And

791
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: he's like, no, what I did was super stupid. And

792
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, I saw this interview with Linda Hogan and

793
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: just being like, I just think it's despicable that he

794
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: won money for just like fucking Heather period literally period.

795
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: And then she went on to like dated nineteen year olds.

796
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: Okay, house go off cougar. Wait, did you ever watch

797
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: the video? No, it's very like night vision.

798
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: I was guessing, is it like it's a lot of like.

799
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: Him like fucking her for like twenty seconds and like

800
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: getting up and like walking away and coming back and

801
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: like talking getting water. Yeah, his dick is not big

802
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: per se, which is interesting, which is maybe why he

803
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: would not. But again, he's big, so it's probably not

804
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: gonna look huge in comparison.

805
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: I could also see going on and off steroids, steroids.

806
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: And equipment on me. Apparently it's only supposed to be

807
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: fact your balls, but the whole comes so.

808
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: With the diet. It's like, right, he's eating what like

809
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: forty eggs and like seven hamburgers, doing the steroids, going

810
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: off the steroids.

811
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: It's got to recavit.

812
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: It's got to recavoc on the d And it's just

813
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: kind of wild that. It's like it's like he never

814
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: read Gocker.

815
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: He probably cannot imagine him surfing into gawker dot com.

816
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: And I think he saw it as just probably like

817
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: another one of these tabloid websites, not an amazing websites

818
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: for like gay guys and like girls to have columns.

819
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: Right, it's just a fun website for us to have

820
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: columns like don't worry about it, babe.

821
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: And he got his millions, and goker went and then

822
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: it came back.

823
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: Came back, and then ultimately it went again. Yeah, when

824
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: another mercurial billionaire decided he was done with it.

825
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also funny thinking about Hulk, like reading the

826
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: New Gawker. I mean, like that damn site is up. Brother, Well,

827
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: I'll give them a shot.

828
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: They can make it interesting.

829
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: He's reading review of The Guest by a clod brother.

830
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: Brother, This book sounds like a real trip. If I

831
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: have time, I'll read it on my vacation.

832
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: You know. And now Hulk, I'd be curious to see

833
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Hollywood Hulk Part two, his memoir of the case his

834
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: daughter not speaking to him.

835
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: And I would like to also have it be a

836
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: heavily abridged to hour audiobook with plenty of sound effects.

837
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: Please welcome to the stage.

838
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: Sub bad. What does she? What does she eat?

839
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: What does she eat? Protein? Protein? Protein?

840
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: Preteen protein protein eggs? Okay, I had to do some

841
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: cheating on this because the stuff was too funny. He

842
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: said what he used to eat three Miller lights before

843
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: a match and fourteen Miller lights after a mask. He

844
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: was like, probably eventeen Miller lights in an evening, and

845
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: then in the cribs he pulls out the visual almost

846
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: basically one of them, just a ziplock with literally forty

847
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: hard boiled eggs.

848
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: That's the grossest thing ever. But now I heard a

849
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: gas station. He could really fulfill all he said.

850
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: He was gas station and they were like he used

851
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: to eat, you know, just burgers, no bun, but from

852
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: like Danny's or eye Hoop, because it was just about

853
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the protein.

854
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: The classic Tyra Banks strategy without the bun. For advice

855
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: to Kenya, I remember from cycle.

856
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: And I'm always like that, being like you could just

857
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: have the burger without the bun.

858
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: Okay, let's head to corner bistro when I see you

859
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: order that something. I heard her two burger, said Julius

860
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: two nights ago.

861
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for sharing that.

862
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm fucking disgusting, like you're.

863
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: Literally feral and like you're bulking for like the WWF

864
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: wait question, was it too at once?

865
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: No I ordered one, I was like, I need another one.

866
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: It was partially also because I didn't specify my like

867
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: queer server didn't ask for I want a cooked and

868
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: so like they brought me one that was like insanely

869
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: well done, and I was kind of like I wouldn't like,

870
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: so I asked for rare and basically got it like medium.

871
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: So I uctually love the Julius burger. It's not as

872
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Speaker 1: good as it used to be.

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Speaker 2: It's not I don't like different chefs there.

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Speaker 1: I used to have like they used to have one

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Speaker 1: chef that was like an angry guy and a griddle.

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Speaker 1: And now it's like there's quirdo's behind.

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Speaker 2: Too many tender queers that are just being like the

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Speaker 2: queers are tender. The meat is not all right, but

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Speaker 2: we love you, Julius.

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Speaker 1: Julius.

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Speaker 2: So he's eating gas eggs.

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Speaker 1: But now anyway, whatever she did, now I saw a thing.

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Speaker 1: What's in his fridge and he's like addicted to chameleon

884
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: cold brew. It's just like that cold brew that's sold

885
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Speaker 1: like every fancy.

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Speaker 2: Deli, not like oh Gradies.

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00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: It's like that it's next to you.

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Speaker 2: There's like this like a big box with like a

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Speaker 2: spiggot or is it in like a jar.

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Speaker 1: It's like jar and there's always like a bear on

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Speaker 1: the logo. Okay, it sounds very and he's very just

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Speaker 1: like halo top oatly ice cream.

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Speaker 2: Okay, daily harvest to the booth.

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Because he has like a third wife that's forty seven

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Speaker 1: and so like allow and now he's just being like

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Speaker 1: chicken organic.

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Speaker 2: So when you pick up your Hilari Baldwin wife, yeah,

898
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Speaker 2: like it's a halo top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like in this video he was like, brother,

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Speaker 1: this is badass and like holding up some like plant

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00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: based chocolate bar.

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Speaker 2: Damn all right if you say so, say so brother,

903
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Speaker 2: if that makes you feel like a man. What does

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Speaker 2: he wear? I mean to fit into?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always in like a tight hulk T shirt

906
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: and like cross and shorts.

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00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not wearing a ton of clothing. We don't

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Speaker 2: have to when you're in Florida.

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00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like board shorts, tight hulky media.

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00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Shirt or like is he still doing the handimars?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think. Do you think he's like dying his hair

913
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: at home in there like triple sank bathroom.

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00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Right, bleach blonde? Or is he letting it go like white?

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Speaker 1: I think, oh no, he looks so crazy. Now it's

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00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: white beard and then like white mustache and then like

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00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: kind of like different colored beard growing in Okay, a

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Speaker 1: little more like devilish in this way.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. I mean that does happen. Those of us have

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00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: facial experience. Some arts get white more than others.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's like dying the mustache, Oh, he's

922
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Speaker 1: dying yet to keep it like blonde and Hulk.

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00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: Because the mustache is like Hulk, but the rest is

924
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: kind of like Terry exactly Terry stuff. The cheeks are Terry,

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Speaker 2: the mustache is Hulk.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the new wife probably like even though

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Speaker 1: he is wearing his like probably like new Hulk merch,

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Speaker 1: like he is just like being a little more like

929
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: she's getting from lululumon shorts.

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00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: You think he has like a new T shirt that's

931
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: so just like like so Street wearing just his whole

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Speaker 2: comedian like smaller in the middle.

933
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Speaker 1: Of it is just like little whole comedia.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how does she live? Is it just like machine

935
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Speaker 2: like marble counter naps, marble floors, like chandeliers like chandeliers.

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Speaker 1: He probably like is now that like he's not living

937
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Speaker 1: in his crazy cribs two thousand and five ex Wife

938
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Speaker 1: like chateau. I feel like he's like living a little calmer.

939
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he's like so new selling Sunset house.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more like like two thousand and eight

941
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Speaker 2: construction makes there's a lot of bonus rooms, tons.

942
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Speaker 1: Of bonus rooms for like showers and like offices and

943
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Speaker 1: like I'm sure he has like some YouTube rooms to

944
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Speaker 1: do stuff in. And I feel like he has a

945
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Speaker 1: lot of like water toys.

946
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Speaker 2: Toys in the water in the water and so sandy

947
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Speaker 2: on like for his indoor outdoor pool. Yes, and he's

948
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Speaker 2: like getting and he bet definitely has like a huge

949
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Speaker 2: like mosquito net cover like on the pool.

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Speaker 1: Florida style and like all those house centers in Florida

951
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Speaker 1: when they have those like glass covers.

952
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: But it's like more ugly than that.

953
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Speaker 1: And I think the bed is huge.

954
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: And it is it's high in the sex tape that

955
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: it's like it's like a four poster and it's high.

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Speaker 1: Is he on top or she on top?

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Speaker 2: Okay if I remember, I think like she's in the

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Speaker 2: bed and he's standing, but then he's like on the bed.

959
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Speaker 2: There's a bunch of different positions, but there's a lot

960
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: of like walking around. But I do think the bed

961
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Speaker 2: is like a fuck platform and that's kind of a.

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Speaker 1: A little bit eight feet tall?

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Speaker 2: Who are you in the book?

964
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Speaker 1: I mean, are you Richard Richard Shay Hogan? And you're like, sorry, sorry,

965
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Speaker 1: I think I am. I think I'm Linda Hogan making

966
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Speaker 1: the chateau.

967
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Speaker 2: And you're so pissed when you find out about.

968
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Speaker 1: Because it's like where you you actually get the French House.

969
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Then I make the Florida French House.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it, all right, interesting gives

971
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Speaker 2: a song, Yes, a song, I love this song that

972
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Speaker 2: I listened to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so play. I mean look for his mental capacity,

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Speaker 1: I think it was he did a really good job fun.

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Speaker 2: He shined. His personality shined.

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Speaker 1: It's personality deaf, I think, you know. And he gave

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Speaker 1: a lot of kind of insight into for as much

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Speaker 1: as he could do, as much as I was expecting.

979
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Speaker 1: I guess I was almost expecting less from him. Yeah,

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00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess I give it kind of just

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Speaker 1: a solid like three ripped Hulkamania tank tops.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I'd give it a in like

983
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Speaker 2: a really friendly, nice fun way. I give it a

984
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Speaker 2: solid two point six camel clutches, which was the Iron

985
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Speaker 2: Cheek's signature move.

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00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go camel clutch.

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Speaker 2: You behave Alright's.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club of Stephen and Lily's produced by the

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Speaker 1: one and only Dorby Masters. Got that brother, she was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Met her in Tampa. She was a ringside girl for

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Speaker 1: a while. I produced by a Booza Fall the Torminator.

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00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: We had a match in nineteen ninety one. I did

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Speaker 1: the camel clutch on him, then he flipped me over

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Speaker 1: in the squirrel bite. Man, we need a rematch? Sound

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Speaker 1: all Right? Executive produced by Christina evrit She is the

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Speaker 1: get on her bat side. She runs the Northeast Region

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