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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Like the starter played version of

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Speaker 1: our daily show One Bills Live as we cram just

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Speaker 1: about all you can handle inside forty minutes. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we addressed just how much addition by subtraction the Bills

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Speaker 1: You talk with former NFL defensive end Chris Long about

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Speaker 1: Buffalo as a destination for his unretired brother Kyle Long,

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Speaker 1: and we asked the question, should we be concerned. Let's

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Speaker 1: roll it out at a Steve taster who has been

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Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind

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Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp.

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Speaker 1: We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us here on One Bills Like. Glad to have

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Speaker 1: you listening on any of your podcast platforms or listening

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Speaker 1: and watching on the Bill's YouTube channel. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you as always in Steve, we witnessed firsthand

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Speaker 1: the hard decision or decisions Bill's GM Brandon Bean and

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Speaker 1: several other general managers around the league are faced with

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Speaker 1: this offseason. With this restrictive salary cap. Buffalo releasing John

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Speaker 1: of fourteen million on the cap create more space, but

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Speaker 1: in doing so, they increase the number of free agents

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Speaker 1: coming off their roster from fourteen to sixteen. There are

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Speaker 1: now more holes to fill. How do they pull it off? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to really do some smart shopping. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: they've got to fill their roster out and there's there's

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Speaker 1: You got to set aside about ten million dollars of

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Speaker 1: salary cap space for their rookie class, their draft class.

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Speaker 1: They've got seven picks, and you've got a lot six

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Speaker 1: there's your you know, there it is. It's a little

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Speaker 1: over seven million dollars. They got a half plus you know,

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Speaker 1: put them in bonuses and pro rate whatever that is

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Speaker 1: about ten million bucks overall, they've still got work to do.

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Speaker 1: And as we said, you know, losing John Brown, losing

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Speaker 1: is the biggest name that people are talking about. Ike

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Speaker 1: Butker offensive line, your linebacking corps. The Bills have some

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Speaker 1: holes to fill from guys who from guys who are

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Speaker 1: We're real contributors in a fifteen win season last year

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Speaker 1: as it sits now at this point of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it on the show Brownie. This team is,

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Speaker 1: it's constituted right this minute, couldn't beat the team they

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Speaker 1: were three months ago. Yeah, so it's they've got work

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Speaker 1: But they've got to spend their money extremely wisely in

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Speaker 1: a market that is going to be both flooded with

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Speaker 1: be a lot of teams with a lot of money

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Speaker 1: to spend to drive the prices up, perhaps out of

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Speaker 1: the Bills price range. Yeah. First, let me thank you

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Speaker 1: for bringing us all into a state of dismay as

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Speaker 1: last season. I mean, you're pointed that out on our

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Speaker 1: But I think you have to look at it on

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Speaker 1: make so many cuts. They put themselves in a space

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Speaker 1: situation that allows them to do that. But I tell

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Speaker 1: that's why I think bargain shopping has to kind of

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Speaker 1: be the model for the Bills going forward, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: They have to find four solid NFL caliber starters that

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Speaker 1: big time. We shouldn't forget that the Bills have the

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Speaker 1: option bonuses on the contract extensions signed by Dion Dawkins

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Speaker 1: from March seventeenth to March twenty. First, they can exercise

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Speaker 1: which would kick in the final year, which for Tardevious

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Speaker 1: And that can get them an additional fifteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: in space on this year's cap by triggering the Bills

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Speaker 1: commitment to the final year of each of those deals

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Speaker 1: essentially takes half of their base salaries this year and

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Speaker 1: like a no brainer, right, right, right, because those guys

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Speaker 1: hell's the difference if you cement their final year of

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Speaker 1: their respective extensions. Yeah, give them the money now, half

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Speaker 1: their salary this year's salary. They'd get it right now

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Speaker 1: if you take the nineteen million in room approximately that

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Speaker 1: the Bills created with Mitch Morse restructure, the Vernon Butler restructure,

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Speaker 1: the release of Brown, and the release of Jefferson, you

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Speaker 1: done there right exactly. And that's that is that gives

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Speaker 1: get there. Now it's a question of getting the right guys.

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Speaker 1: It's not about we can't even we can't. We can't

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Speaker 1: week's edition of the Numbers Game. We play this every week.

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Speaker 1: We put Steve to the task, and this week we

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Speaker 1: take a look at Buffalo's pass rush, which has already

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Speaker 1: undergone a degree of change with the release of Quentin Jefferson. Steve,

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Speaker 1: I need you to name me this week the top

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Speaker 1: five players on Buffalo's roster in twenty twenty for quarterback hits.

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Speaker 1: I have not. When it came to quarterback hits, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Termaine Edmonds. Jermaine Edmonds is not on the list, Sir Mamelano.

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Speaker 1: He believe it or not. You know, Trent Murphy didn't

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Speaker 1: Bam Johnson, it is not Bam Johnson. I know he's

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Speaker 1: a favorite of yours, but he is not Willikers. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm running out of name. I know, Mika, it is

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Speaker 1: not Mica. This guy is the reason I put this

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Speaker 1: to bring attention to this fact, because I was surprised

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Speaker 1: to you this way. This is an underrated player that

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Speaker 1: I still don't think gets the respect. Dane Jackson is

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Speaker 1: not Daan Jason for what he is, goal boy, you

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Speaker 1: just Jackson with Dame Jackson. Um, I will say tarn

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Speaker 1: Johnson not not Tarn Jammer. It is not a defensive back.

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Speaker 1: It is not a lineback. Harrison Phillips is not Harrison Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer, it is Justin Zimmer, Steve Tasker, how about

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Speaker 1: dak Justin Zimmer fifth on the team in quarterback hits

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Speaker 1: with seven. We saw him on the GPS Next ten

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Speaker 1: my car, Justin say now, I'm calling it right now.

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Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer is going to have an expanded role on

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in coming year. And I think here's

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Speaker 1: my here's my hot take. Justin Zimmer is gonna get

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Speaker 1: offensive snaps this year. Offensive snaps, Yes, what as a fullback? Yeah? Wow,

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Speaker 1: little goal line action. I think they don't have a

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Speaker 1: full back. Think he's gonna be new pet the Patrick redcard.

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Speaker 1: He is of the Buffalo Bill. He is too fast,

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Speaker 1: guy to pair with your young draft pick Mahomes. If

428
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: you want to beat Mahomes and people thought this was cliche,

429
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: you got to be able to hit him. And of

430
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: course you're never gonna get the old line in that

431
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: shape again as the Buccaneers got him. But there's a

432
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: lot of things to your point, Steve, in that game, now,

433
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: they handily beat y'all, but there were different intersections in

434
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: the first half where it went this way, we did this,

435
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: We're at least in the game later and that game

436
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: in the rain, it didn't seem as lopsided. So I

437
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: think there is like a degree of if your indivision

438
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: with somebody, you're gonna play him twice a year, you

439
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: make moves to stop this guy, right, you know, like

440
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: like Arizona drafting the kid from Clemson. To me, that screamed, okay,

441
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: we got we got somebody for George Kittle, And the

442
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: same thing with Jamal Adams going to Seattle like you're

443
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: trying to match strength for strength. But if you're worried

444
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: about the chiefs man, just get as good as you

445
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: can be, right to your point, Yeah right, Speaking of

446
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: trying to add to your roster, your brother just recently

447
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: tweeted that he's coming out of retirement. So, knowing how

448
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: well you are at handicapping where to go in free

449
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: agency to win a ring, I wonder if you might

450
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: be able to exact some undue influence on Kyle on

451
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: our behalf. Knowing that the Bills have five offensive linemen

452
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: whose contracts are up this offseason. I'm just saying, I'm

453
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. Well, it's funny because yeah,

454
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I just we just broke that and it tickled me

455
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: to death that Adam Schefter had to quote tweet my

456
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: co host, So Adam Schefter for sharing. So Kyle gave

457
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: us the scoop, and I'm excited for him. I'm a

458
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: little bit terrified for him because you know, pro football

459
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: is easy to it's not easy to just stop and

460
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: then pick back up. But he's a freak man. He'll

461
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: be fine. Like Buffalo should be in the mix man

462
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: for the for the factors you just mentioned. But I'm

463
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: not his agent. I don't you know. I'm not Kyle.

464
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: I can't think for him. I can tell you though,

465
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: like I've always my whole career thought y'all had a

466
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: really cool thing going up there, and now you guys

467
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: are good, Like, who wouldn't want to play in Buffalo.

468
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's just something about it, the fans and

469
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: the tradition and the stadium. I love how small and

470
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: intimate it is, and you know, you walk in there,

471
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: you feel like it's a college atmosphere. Like I was.

472
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: I was jealous, like when I go up there and play,

473
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: So he should definitely consider Buffalo. And you guys do

474
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: need offensive linemen. Right before I popped on and I

475
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: was like, look what we just broke. Maybe they'll ast

476
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: thing about Kyle. Yeah, well, yeah, we had to. And

477
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I've been I've been, we've been harping

478
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: on this and and you know how, and it kills

479
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: me when people in our end of it now you

480
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: know out here in the media talk about in the bills,

481
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, they don't run it well, so guys just

482
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: get a better running back and they don't even look

483
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: that they have five four offensive linemen that are free agents,

484
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: and they got another one that's a restricted free agent.

485
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna have. They got three guys that were they're

486
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: starting five that are aren't even under contract now. But

487
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: they're saying they're talking about running backs. I'm it's nuts

488
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: to me. And in a year like this, with Kyle

489
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: coming back into the there's no question there's going to

490
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: be a market for his services. And I've I've said

491
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: both these For the Bills to get back to where

492
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: they were, they've got to do it up front on

493
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. You're absolutely right. I mean,

494
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 1: like when you think about the Bills, you know, when

495
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: I was in the league, I thought about rushers, I

496
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: thought about guys up front. I thought about road grading

497
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: kind of offensive linement, whether it was Richie or Eric

498
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: Wood or even Glenn like some of his better years. Um,

499
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: you know that's an identity. It's cold weather football. It's

500
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: like you got to build up front, man. And yeah,

501
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of like shortsighted to just

502
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: thinks we'll fix it with a running back because as

503
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: it's been driven home over and over again. Like and

504
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking running backs it's just like they're a

505
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: little bit more interchangeable than offensive lines, in my opinion.

506
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: And you know, look at it like an Aaron Jones,

507
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: like buy or beware. He's a great player, He's probably

508
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna he's probably gonna make you happy no matter where

509
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: he ends up. I haven't followed the news if there's

510
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: any lean on where he's going or whatever. But a

511
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: guy like that, like, Okay, you play with Aaron Rodgers,

512
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, You've got a dynamic play caller. You have

513
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: the solid OH line until they had some injuries or whatever.

514
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: But what does that project to somewhere else? And I

515
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: think you're you're wiser to start with the offensive one.

516
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Talking with former NFL defensive lineman Chris Long, also host

517
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: of the green Light podcast, and we should also mention

518
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: this a former Walter Peyton Man of the Year as well.

519
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: And I know you're still active with your community endeavors,

520
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's your foundation, you know, serving for

521
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: Bright Futures for communities, or your water Boys project in

522
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: East Africa. How what is the status of those things?

523
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: And maybe just speak to how your involvement may have

524
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: morphed and changed now that you don't have to worry

525
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: about getting to an NFL facility at seven in the

526
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: morning and leaving at six at night, you know, six

527
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: days a week for seven eight months. Well it's funny

528
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: because I've said this, whether it was like the media

529
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: or just like being okay with walking away from the game,

530
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: if you'd told me there was gonna be a pandemic

531
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: right as I got out of the league, I was like,

532
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't last it, Like I just I wouldn't know

533
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: what to do with myself. And so the same thing

534
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: with the Foundation, Like it's hard when you leave the

535
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: game because if you're smart as a player, you know,

536
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: people don't really care. You know, like people know who

537
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: you are, Like they like to give you a hug

538
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: if they see at a bar, they want your autograph,

539
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: but like people don't get behind your stuff the same way.

540
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: Now we have some really core, you know, fanatical Chris

541
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: Long Foundation Waterboys supporters. They don't always be there. But

542
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: going out and getting those new people is hard when

543
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: you don't have a jersey on anymore. So one of

544
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: the biggest things is we pass this off to, you know,

545
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: an active captain. I'm still grinding, I'm still you know

546
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: the CEO. Behind the scenes, I'm still engaging with retired athletes,

547
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: but when it comes to fundraising as an active player,

548
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: we needed some people that could step up, and so

549
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: I got Myles Garrett to go with us this past year.

550
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: And obviously with everything that happened to him, this was

551
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: in the word that he did and that happened to him.

552
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: To be fair, it was one of those things where

553
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: I saw it was already in the works, like we

554
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: picked Myles Garrett and then the helmet thing happened, and

555
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, what are we gonna do. Well.

556
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: I believe in people second chances, and I believe in people,

557
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, rebuilding themselves, and I believe Miles is a

558
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: good kid. And it was never I didn't flinch, and

559
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: we didn't flinch, and we thought, this is the guy

560
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: we want leading us in the future. He's a he's

561
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: a good kid. He had a terrible moment and he's

562
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: got to fix that and he's got to make amends

563
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: for that. And I think this work allows him to

564
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: help do that, and it helps us remain relevant and

565
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: we're gaining new players all the time. So we do

566
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: large solar powered wells in East Africa, we're closing in

567
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: on five hundred thousand people serviced. We've done almost one

568
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: hundred large, large wells. We also do domestic work, so

569
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: we might have a project outside Buffalo at some point.

570
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people in the United States do not

571
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: have access to clean water. And it's not just the flints.

572
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: It's single family homes, as communities, a small rural towns.

573
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: So some of my home, you know, some places near

574
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: my hometown in Virginia, they don't have water. So we're

575
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: trying to get in there. At Navajo Nation, if you're

576
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: an indigenous person in this country, you have seventeen times

577
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: a chance of not having clean water as somebody like

578
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: the dudes on this podcast to look like us. So

579
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: there's all types of in the water space, inequities and

580
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: things we can address, and we can address them here

581
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: and in places like East Africa. So waterboys dot org.

582
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: We also launched water for her International Women's Day. We

583
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: roll it out a bunch of great influencers there because

584
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: it is a women's issue. All the burden falls on

585
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: women and girls gathering unclean and clean water. And I

586
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: know that you've been a huge part of this, and

587
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: you know you've been recognized by by the NFL forward,

588
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: and I want to speak to you because I say

589
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: this once in a while on our show and mostly

590
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: in passing that the NFL and you know, certainly you

591
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: hear about guys who struggle or can't handle the fame

592
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: and fortune and who or who aren't great guys. But

593
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: it's been my experience, and you played on a lot

594
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: more teams that I played on two different teams, and

595
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: I know that you played on more than that and

596
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: played for a long time as well. The league is

597
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: really populated by pretty quality people from top to bottom,

598
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: and I think that gets lost in the headlines and

599
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: the and the social media and the outrage that you

600
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: hear about this that, and you have some slide or

601
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: the disrespect or players show boat whatever. Yeah, I'm I'm

602
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: a big proponent of what the NFL is and what

603
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: it stands for and the guys who populated at every level,

604
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: And certainly it has its issues, but they embrace those

605
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: issues more openly than I think any other entity in

606
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: the US. I agree. I agree. I mean, like you know,

607
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: like the Shield, the league, like you know, front offices, owners,

608
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: like I can't speak to all that all the time, Like,

609
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: but I can tell you about the men that I

610
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: played with, and you know, I know you feel the

611
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: same way. Steve is like to ascend to that level.

612
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand that you can't just be talented.

613
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: There are some guys who are just talented, but the

614
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: the the intellectual acumen it takes to master a playbook,

615
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: the regimented kind of routine from dieting to fitness, to

616
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: exercise to taking care of your body to I mean,

617
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: it is a three hundred and sixty five day year job.

618
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: And there are some really responsible, great men in our league.

619
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: And it came down to like the other day, I

620
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: was like, I was picking board members for my foundation

621
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: and we're in the process of that right now, right now,

622
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: and I said, there's one guy that I would trust

623
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: with my children, that I know outside my family if

624
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I had to leave for a week, it's a guy

625
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: like Matthew Slayter. Well that's a lie, because there's probably

626
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: five guys I played with like that, but I had

627
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: to have Matthew Slayter on my board, And like, there

628
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: are so many guys like Matthew Slayter who people in

629
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo probably don't like as much, but like guys like

630
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: that who don't make the news because they're never bad

631
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: news guys and bad news seals. And so I think, like,

632
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, the countless guys that you're referring to that

633
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I played with never get the same shine. And I

634
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: got Lucky Walter Payton Manor of the Year and all

635
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: that stuff, Like I almost felt guilty getting that of

636
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: wark because I know there's better guys than me in

637
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: the league. I'm an okay guy. We've been very productive

638
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: off the field, I'll just say that. And so there

639
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: are just so many quality people in the NFL. But

640
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: to your point, it doesn't make the news when people

641
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: do good things, and that sucks and I hate that,

642
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: but it's the reality, and we take it on the

643
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: chin all the time. We do like we're all bad people.

644
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: If you look at a lot of the statistics for

645
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: rates that we get in trouble and that sort of thing,

646
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: they don't reflect the general population. And in fact, all

647
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: the bad news about what's going to happen to you

648
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: after football is all it's people feed on that, you know,

649
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: and it's to the point where when you retire, if

650
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: I read what's supposed to happen to me as a

651
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: former football player who played eleven years in the league

652
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: in the trenches, I'm gonna lose my mind and I'm

653
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: going to be a terrible degenerate, you know, member of

654
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: society and that sort of thing. There's guys like my dad,

655
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: there's guys like you that are leading positive, awesome lives

656
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: after football, and so I think, like from the quality

657
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: of the men that we played with too, you know,

658
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: what's the next chapter? Like, we need to recalibrate that

659
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: conversation because there's a lot of really awesome dudes that

660
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: play in our league who are set for life after

661
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: financially but also as people. Last one for me, Chris,

662
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna end this on a much lighter note,

663
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: but it's been a great conversation because I've got to

664
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: get the answer to this. So you were just talking

665
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: about shine and everything, and I can't help but think

666
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: of all the shine that the Manning family gets in

667
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, and the shine for the Long family is

668
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: woefully behind in terms of that. So I'm always curious, man,

669
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: and I know you're not I know you're not a

670
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: self glosser at all, but do you stop and think

671
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: sometimes when you see all the shine that three quarterbacks

672
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: get in comparison to a couple of defensive lineman and

673
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman in the long family, Well it's hard

674
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: because you know, it's like there's also the boss and

675
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: the bosses value the second generation is better than our

676
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: second generation if they play this out like you know,

677
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: the accolades, and there's nobody, in my opinion, down four

678
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: three end, that's as dominant as Joey Bosa in the

679
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: game right now in my opinion like that, I enjoy

680
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: watching down in and down out. I think they should

681
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: be in the conversation the Kelsey's you've got two all

682
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: prosings their quarterbacks. Quarterbacks always get the credit like me

683
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: and my brother, Like you know, I was a real

684
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: good player. My brother's a real good player. Dad's a

685
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. But you know we'd have to be

686
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: riding Dad's cotails pretty hard. He's got the cold jacket, right.

687
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: I think Demanding's owned that title, and their quarterbacks they

688
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: can have it right all right, fair enough, Chris, really

689
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: good conversation. We appreciate the time. Good luck with the

690
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: green Light podcast and all the good stuff you're doing

691
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: out community wise, We'll keep an eye out for some

692
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: of those endeavors, especially that the reservation stuff with the

693
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Speaker 1: Native American community. We got a lot of Native American

694
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: population up here in western New York, so that is

695
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: a startling statistic. Just about the clean drinking water. It's

696
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean that you enlighten me to blow your mind. Yeah,

697
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: I'll blow your mind. But it was great talking to

698
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: you guys. And I love watching the Bills, man. That's

699
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: one of my side teams. I put it that way.

700
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: It's I watched the Bills and I'm like a closet

701
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Bills fan. All right, fair enough, thanks for the time again,

702
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: appreciate it, all right, Steve. We close up this week's

703
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: episode with the question should we be concerned The release

704
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: of John Brown this week has left the Bills without

705
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: a veteran deep threat. They may not add at that

706
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: position in free agency, although I tend to think they

707
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: will in some way, shape or form. They may resign

708
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie. But beyond Stefan Diggs and Cole Beasley, they

709
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: have Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgins, as well as Jake Kumereau

710
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: who flashed last season. We know Duke Williams is still

711
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: on the roster, but he's had a hard time getting

712
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: up on the fifty three. As we know. The question

713
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: here is can you make up the four point three

714
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: receptions per game, sixty three receiving yards per game, and

715
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: four and a half touchdowns per season that John Brown

716
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: gave this offense the past two years on average. I

717
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: think he can. I'm not gonna say that I don't

718
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: like John, but we all like John Brown. He was

719
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: a great player for He was here for two full seasons,

720
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: and really I think he earned every cent they paid him.

721
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: He had a good contract, and then you know, because

722
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: of the injuries, he couldn't contribute in the second year

723
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: the way we thought he could and the way he

724
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: thought he wanted to as well. But I think I

725
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: think the offense will look different this year than it

726
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: did a year ago. I think you'll probably see them

727
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: go less for wide because John Brown's not there unless

728
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: they replace him in the draft or from somebody on

729
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: the roster with that four three, that deep blazing speed

730
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: to take the lid off everything. You might see him

731
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Speaker 1: go with a guy like Isaiah Hodgens or a Duke

732
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: Williams who to give you size, big guy that would

733
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: change the complexion of it and be a different kind

734
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: of matchup for defenses to consider rather than the speed matchup. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be very interesting to see what the

736
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Speaker 1: identity of the receiving corps will be. It has been

737
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: to a great degree speed and elusiveness, especially last year.

738
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Speaker 1: Next year. Yes, it could very well be sized as

739
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: the identifying factor in this receiving corps. Obviously you're not

740
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: looking at Cole Beasley and Stefan Digs for that. But

741
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: Jake Cumerou goes about six five, Isaiah Hodgens goes six three,

742
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Game Davis goes six two, Duke Williams goes six three.

743
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: So suddenly there is a size quotient there that is

744
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: pretty formidable. Now you say, oh, what do we do

745
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: for a deep threat? You know, John Brown's not here anymore.

746
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: John Brown and his two seasons with the Bills averaged

747
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half yards per reception. Pretty good. Gabriel

748
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: Davis last season averaged almost eighteen yards a catch. Sneaky

749
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: way of getting behind defense is he is a sneaky receiver,

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Speaker 1: I think, and I believe he's the odds on favorite,

751
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: at least as the roster stands now to be the

752
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 1: third wide out in this offense. But if they don't

753
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: add in free agency, yes, I agree with you, they

754
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: could be almost exclusively eleven personnel, larger role for Dawson Knox.

755
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Or did they go out and get a tight end

756
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: because as we know, Brandon Beans said in his season

757
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: ending press conference he felt the tight ends had an

758
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: up down season and it's a position they want to

759
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: take a look at, which reading between the line says

760
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: they want to upgrade the position. Now do they want

761
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: to do that with an all around tight end? Knowing

762
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: there's still the chance that Lee Smith may retire. He's

763
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: contemplating retirement with a year left on his contract. So

764
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: those are things to consider. And then the other thing, Steve,

765
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: you talk all the time on our daily show on

766
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: One Bills Live about how the offensive line has five

767
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: of their nine players who are currently not under contract

768
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: right now. They have expiring contracts the wide receiving corps

769
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Speaker 1: with John Brown released, Andre Roberts contract up, Isaiah McKenzie's

770
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: contract up. Three of the six guys you dressed every Sunday,

771
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: half of them are now suddenly not on this roster either.

772
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: You get Isaiah Hodgins. He's kind of a bonus after

773
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: taking a red shirt year last year with the shoulder injury.

774
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: And Jake Kumerou. I think people are excited about including

775
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: the people in this building. But he's Q tall. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: But I tend to think that if you don't replace

777
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: your return or you don't have your return man come

778
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: back in Andre Roberts, they may look late in the

779
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: draft for a return specialist type wide receiver that has

780
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: a chance to make the roster in their estimation, and

781
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't be surprised if they go for some

782
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of bargain player on a one year deal, just

783
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: as veteran insurance at the position. Gabriel Davis is your three.

784
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: But if you want to go four wide, is it

785
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens or do you need some veteran to come

786
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: in to provide competition. I think you need a veteran

787
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: to come in and provide competition, And if you want

788
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: to add a little bit more speed to the group,

789
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: maybe somebody like a John Ross, for example, a guy

790
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: who's had an injury history which causes some concern, but

791
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: in a part time role it's not as big a risk.

792
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Could stay healthy and shouldn't come at a big price

793
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: and can take the top off a defense after running

794
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: a four two at the combine as a rookie. And

795
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: that's what and that's what the decisions they'll make during

796
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: training camp. They'll see who's going to give us the

797
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: best chance and who Josh likes to throw too as well.

798
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't don't discount that quarterbacks have a say, and

799
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: that what that receiving corps looks like. You get a

800
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: guy like Isaiah Hodgins out there, let's see what he

801
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: looks like. M. But the reason dude Williams can't get

802
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: on the field, and in my mind, the only reason

803
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: Duke Williams doesn't get on the field is his speed.

804
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: He just is not fast enough. And he's a post

805
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: up guy. He's a post up guy. But he runs

806
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: pretty good routes and he's and he's strong on the ball,

807
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: catches the ball well contested situations. He's great and contested

808
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: and contested catches. So, M, you're looking for a guy

809
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: to step up Isaiah Hodges, we don't know what he

810
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: looks like. Well, if you watch his college tape, he's

811
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: very exciting because and we should note this because I'm

812
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: just gonna peer into the crystal ball here. This guy

813
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: is your future slot receiver when Cole Beasley's career is over.

814
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: This is the guy that will replace him because when

815
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: he worked out of the slot at Oregon State, he

816
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: was very successful. He is a separation not a speed guy.

817
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: He is really good at selling faints and fakes and

818
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: stuff and getting defensive backs off balance, and that's how

819
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: he creates separation consistently. I mean, I've I have not

820
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: seen double moves from a college prospect as effectively as

821
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: he executes them. And I think that's what's so appealing

822
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: about him. Um, I think three years from now that's

823
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: your starting Maybe sooner because we know Cole Beasley's entering

824
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the final year of his deal. But two or three

825
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: years from now, provided he comes on like they think

826
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: he will, that's your future. He'll be much different too,

827
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: because he's really tall, ye sire, tall guy in the

828
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: slot the only thing and if he's good and get separation,

829
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: that's good. The only thing that may be different for

830
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: him at this level is the release getting off the

831
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: line of s with a big frame, Guys can get

832
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: into him a lot. There's a lot of you know,

833
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot of contact, you know stuff. So you have

834
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: to learn how to get a release in tight spaces

835
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: on some really good athletes. That's the only thing probably

836
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens would would concern me that I would want

837
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: to look for as a coaching staff. Um, and then

838
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing that says they can't run double slot and

839
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: go for wide with Isaiah Hodgins, put him in, and

840
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: put Gabe Davis where he was last year outside of

841
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: John Brown or outside of Cole Beasley. Um, that's interesting

842
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: to me as well. Um, they've got to I wouldn't

843
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: say it's a glaring, screaming need because say, because they

844
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: got three guys that are really good already Beasley, Digs

845
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: and Davis, Hodgens. Well, we'll see what they think. Kumarro

846
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: is a guy they they plugged Kumero in ahead of

847
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: Duke Williams last year in the Denver game. He came in,

848
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: caught the touchdowns, runs really well, big man, and he's

849
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: really tall. He's like almost six five, I mean he's long.

850
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: So that's it. That's a problem for guys when you

851
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Speaker 1: step up and you gotta match up on a guy

852
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: and you get out there and face up on I'm

853
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: on a press coverage and you see the guy that's

854
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's a power forward. You know you're not

855
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: you're not quite so confident. That's an issue, and that's

856
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: an issue for coaches as well on the opposing team.

857
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: They don't want certain guys matching up with that. So

858
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: Kumro's got some some cache just because of his gifts,

859
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: as does Hodgens, and as does Duke Williams. But the

860
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: one thing none of those guys displays is is a

861
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: take the lid off. Hey, we got to back off

862
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: this guy because he's gonna outrun me if I'm up

863
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: there too close. Right, They don't have that anymore without

864
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: John bred But right after're protecting Josh Allen. You know

865
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: who is your lynchpin and the biggest reason why your

866
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: offense took the giant leap that it did in twenty twenty.

867
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Speaker 1: Beyond protecting him, the next most important thing is making

868
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: sure he's got enough reliable targets out there running around

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00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: that he can throw the ball to. With the identity

870
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Speaker 1: of this offense, I mean, you gotta think about this, Steve.

871
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: They dressed six receivers every single week of the season,

872
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: which is the first time this franchise has done that

873
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe ever. The bottom two receivers, one was Andre Roberts,

874
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: elite Pro Bowl decision maker, at the return guy, great player,

875
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: that's one of those receivers really rarely took snaps at

876
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Took some handful, but never more than a

877
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: handful in a game, right. And then Isaiah McKenzie, who

878
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: is the gadget guy, and he put him in there

879
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: and you want the defense to respect his speed. And

880
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: he's got one of those guys where you're handing him

881
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: the ball or tossing him the ball, and those cross rounds,

882
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: he stretched the fields of all of that stuff. You

883
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: rarely remember seeing him catch the ball down the field

884
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: except maybe in week seventeen where they actually threw it

885
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: to him. So it's the top four guys that were

886
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: really the engine of the wide receiver room, and that

887
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: was John and John Brown is now not there. That's

888
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: the hole you gotta fill, right, And Isaiah McKenzie this

889
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: week on Good Morning Football, in an appearance, said he

890
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: would like to be back, but it was clear he

891
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: didn't want to say very much about it. He said

892
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna let his agent handle it and let him

893
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: help make the decision for him, which I found very

894
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: interesting because I think too often players forget they're the boss.

895
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, they should be telling the agent what

896
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: they want, not completely leaving it to their agents devices

897
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: And you know, the agent probably understands the best way

898
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: to get you the most money, and the money is important,

899
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: but you also got to be happy going to work

900
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: every The bottom line is this. If you're leaving it

901
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: up to your agent, it's because you don't care where

902
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: you play. Maybe, And for a guy like him, it's

903
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: a little harder because he's a fringe roster player. He

904
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: hasn't made generational money, right, He's a fringe roster player,

905
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: so he's looking to make as much money as he

906
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: can while he's in this thing. That's right. You know.

907
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: It's more intriguing for me to think back to the

908
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Long Yeah interview he just did. I'm thinking I

909
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: like Chris Long, and Kyle Long is a guy like

910
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: John Feliciano. He's got grit and he's a I'm telling

911
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: you he is a freakish athlete. He's a man his side,

912
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: he's an animal. I'd like him. Hall of Fame, Hall

913
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Speaker 1: of Fame. Bloodlines don't hurt. I like him down inside

914
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: as a guard and for him coming back in thirty

915
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: two year old. Give him a one year deal, essential

916
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: one year. Quinn wants to get back in the league.

917
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: He's off the radar. You know, Bring the guy and

918
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: let him compete because that would speak to him. And

919
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: lace of contract with incentives, whatever you want. I like

920
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: him a lot. Yeah, So we'll see. We're officially members

921
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: of the Kyle Long to the Bills fan club in

922
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: free agency. So we'll see. We planted the seed. We'll

923
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: see if if Chris waters it and nurtures it to help,

924
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, kind of get the Bills. I'm sure the

925
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Bills are on the radar. And Chris even said, you know,

926
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: he should look at Buffalo. They're a winning organization. He

927
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: wants to win. Love it here. He's ring chasing, just

928
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: like his brother was. Four million bucks laced with incentives.

929
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: You could maybe double it or almost double it, go

930
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: to seven million for one year deal and no, you'd

931
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: have a one million dollars cap hit. And you may

932
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: you just may get a guy that starts sixteen games

933
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: for seventeen games for you. That's that's low risk, high reward.

934
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: That's what that is three time Pro Bowl guard. Love that,

935
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: love that, So yeah, we'll see if it happens. We'll

936
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Speaker 1: keep our ear to the ground on that. That is

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Speaker 1: all the time we have for this week. We thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us here on One Bill's Light and

939
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: remind you to subscribe on whatever podcast platform you use

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Speaker 1: when the next so that way you know when the

941
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Speaker 1: next episode drops. And remember when there isn't enough time

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Speaker 1: for our daily show, One Bills Live, there's always enough

943
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: time for One Bill's Life. For Steve task around, Chris Brown,

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