1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to a special edition of the From the Podium podcast. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm Gabe Klea. As is customary, at the conclusion of 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: the season, Brown's general manager and executive vice president, Andrew 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Berry addressed the media. Here is that press conference now. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: All right, sit here in front of you with a 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: season where we just won three games, and I really 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: share in our fans disappointment frustration. Quite honestly, I'm embarrassed 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: with the results that we've had as a team this year. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: Just plainly put, we didn't meet expectations. Our decisions coming 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: into the year didn't meet expectations, and ultimately that responsibility 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: it lies at my feet, you know, thinking back a 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: little bit too a year ago where we were coming 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: off in eleven one season going into the playoffs. Our 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: goal has always been to perform at that level or 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: a higher level on. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: A consistent basis. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: And in order for us to do that, especially as 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: we look at this season, you know, we really have 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: to look at everything. It's it's you know, an objective 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: and hard analysis at you know, at each position group 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: and the roster. It's you know, looking at what we're 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: doing to put our our players in the best position 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: to be successful. It's looking about how we practice, how 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: we train to avoid, you know, the major losses that 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: we've had in player availability over the past couple of years. 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: We really do have to look at everything. 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: I think it probably goes without saying that to reach 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: that level of consistency, you know, we have to have 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: consistent availability and consistent performance at the QB position as well. 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: And that's something that's been. 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Elusive for us for the past couple of seasons, and 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: that's something that we have to be able to fix 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: in remedy. I'll share you know with you all this 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: morning that you know, I was recently listening to John 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Maxwell talking John Maxwell, he's a uh former pastor, a 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: long time I'M Leadership executive coach. He was like a 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller and he was talking about he 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: was talking about the topic of how to get a 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: positive return on failure and he used this term he 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: talked about like good misses and bad misses. And it 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 2: stuck with me because I've listened to Kevin coach quarterbacks 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: for five years and he uses the same terminology where 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, you're gonna miss throws, but let's make 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: sure they're a good miss or a bad miss And 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: the way John categorized you know, good failure or excuse me, 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: good misses versus bad misses is with good misses they 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: force you to adjust. Their failures where you learn and 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: you have to adjust where the bad misses they're the 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: ones where you don't learn anything and you make excuses. 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: And we have a lot of good people in our 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: organization from you know, core group of players, good coaches, 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: good people in football operations. We will make adjustments and 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: we will learn from this and we will grow for this. 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: I will learn from this and I will grow from 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: this to ultimately deliver the results that you know, our 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: fan base deserves and in our organization return deserves. The 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: last thing I'll do before I open up with questions, 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: I did want to give an update on Deshaun so yesterday, 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: as we went through our normal player you know medical process, 60 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 2: we did learn that he did have a setback in 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: his you know, Achilles recovery. We don't have all the 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: details and everything yet, but it obviously obviously extend the 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: recovery process for him. It is new information, just learned 64 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: in the past couple hours, so I don't have everything yet, 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: but did want to make you all aware of it 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: before before opening up for questions. 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: So with that, I'll leave it to you. 68 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: As far as Deshaun's concerned, that is that take him 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: out of their running for next year or how does 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: that impact. 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: Him coming into game? 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom, it's it's too it's too early. It's too 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: early to tell. I don't have all the information. Obviously, 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: in a situation like that, you know, I don't want 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: to one thing I said I have learned from this year. 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to rule out anything with a with 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: a major injury. We are still collecting all the information 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: and you know, obviously our focus is making sure that 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: he can get as healthy as possible. 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I got this yesterday. Yeah. 81 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: So we typically in our end of the end of 82 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: your process, all the players go through what we call 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: exit physicals, and it's something that we learned yesterday. 84 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: How did this step back for her? Or you have 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: a view? 86 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: Does he even know? Yeah, I don't. I don't have 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: all those details, Nate. 88 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: You know, obviously it's it's pretty fresh information and we'll 89 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: work through that the next couple of days. 90 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: When he got examined, like did he know something was 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: wrong or is this a new information for him in the. 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 3: Love I'm sorry say the last part of the informed. 93 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: So he got examined, right, Did he know something was 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: wrong or was that news? 95 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: Yes? He did, he did. 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: He did raise it to the He did raise it 97 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: to the docs that something didn't feel right and everything 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: like that, and then you know, we realized had. 99 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: A set back. 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: You expect him to another again, Scott like, it's it's 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: it's all like, I'm not trying to be evasive areas, 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: it is all really new. I can't. I can't rule 103 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: anything out, but I will know more in the next 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: couple of days and weeks. Yeah, I guess that I 105 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: don't have all the details, you know, Mary kay, And 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: honestly I don't. I don't necessarily want to go into 107 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: all that until I have all the information. 108 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: But that's that's all I have for now. 109 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: What had that what had been the timeline before this setback? 110 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 6: Did you guys have an opt you know, what had 111 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 6: been kind of an optimistic outlook about when you expected 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 6: him to be back doing football and participating in football. 113 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: You know, because he was still early in his recovery, 114 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: and he was you know, we felt like he was 115 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: progressing appropriately, you know, as I think back to like 116 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: this year, when we've had guys who have had major 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 2: surgeries or injuries, the timelines really can be variable until 118 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: you get a little bit further on, like we you know, 119 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: we experienced that with you know, with certain players this, 120 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: you know, this past year. So it was probably still 121 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: too early in the process to say whether it's like 122 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: he's optimistic or he's he's he's ahead of schedule, he's 123 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: behind schedule, but we felt like he was at least 124 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: progressing appropriately. 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: You've drafted one quarterback in five years, and of course 126 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 6: Watson's the biggest acquisition you made. Do you think you 127 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 6: need to fix the process in finding the next quarterback? 128 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony, it's it's it's a good question. 129 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: I think as we go into the off season, like 130 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: we have to, we have to look at everything like 131 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: we really, we really do, and you know, we want 132 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that we're eyes wide open in terms 133 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: of you know what you know, what we're what we're 134 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: doing across football operations. That being said, you know, we 135 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: have good people, we have good coaches. We understand how 136 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: important the quarterback position is, you know, and that's obviously 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: going to be a primary goal as we entered the 138 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: off season, how do you. 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 7: Look at how did the decision to change the offensive 140 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 7: coaching staff around and the coaches the whole offense thing, 141 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 7: you know, how did that come about last year? 142 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 5: And then where are you with that going forward. 143 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: Into this year? 144 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 8: Right? 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think whenever you talk about coaching staff, 146 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, Kevin's goal is to make sure that he 147 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: surrounds our players and builds a system that can accentuate, 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: accentuate their strengths in really minimum their their weaknesses. Any 149 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: decision that he makes in that regard is you know, 150 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: is really with you know, is really with that in mind. 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: A lot of things didn't go well for us offensively. 152 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: We didn't we didn't perform up the standard. We didn't 153 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: perform you know, nearly nearly well enough. And I know 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: when you know, Kevin met with you all yesterday, he 155 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: was talking about he wants to make sure that we 156 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: have a sound and explosive offense and that'll really be 157 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: the focus for us moving forward. 158 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: With Kevin's idea to kind of get away from sort 159 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: of the things that they had done well in the past. 160 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 8: Walking and that kind of stuff. 161 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say this, Terry, the probably the better way 162 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: to characters that, like Kevin believes in putting a system 163 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: around the players, like around the player strains, and the 164 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: nature of the NFL is that your players, they they 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: will change from year to year. You know what we 166 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: may have been good, well, we may have been good 167 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: at in twenty twenty maybe different than twenty twenty one 168 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: or twenty twenty three, different than twenty twenty four. Obviously, 169 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: like what we put together this year wasn't good enough. 170 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: You know, we didn't play well enough on that side 171 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: of the ball, you know, but have full faith that 172 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: that that Kevin will be able to to put it 173 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: together and allows that have better results. 174 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: So would you want to is a goal on to 175 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: kind of get back to the basics of where they 176 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: work at It seems like the quarterbacks wide open. He'll 177 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 5: go anywhere with this and so offensively, would you go 178 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 5: back to what was working? 179 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this, Like and Kevin mentioned this, it's 180 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: probably less about you know, what specifically we do in 181 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: the run game or what's specifically in the past game, 182 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: but sound and explosive and however that comes together and 183 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: fits our players best. 184 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: That's the way that he'll go. 185 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 8: Impact your quarterback acquisition strategy. 186 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. 187 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that it has a significant impact. Mary Kay, 188 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: I think you know the reality of it is, you 189 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: know that room, you know it will look different, you 190 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: know next year. You know it may obviously impact how 191 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, what the room looks like as we enter 192 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: enter the season or camp, depending on the severity of 193 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: the you know, the setback. 194 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say that it had a significant impact. 195 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 9: When you look at your look at your roster, do 196 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 9: you think it if it did not play up to 197 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 9: its potential, how will that affect the way you restructure 198 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 9: it for next season? 199 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 200 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: I think you know, Jeff, you know, we'll look at everything. 201 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: I think I think it would be naive to suggest 202 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: that there won't be turnover in different in different rooms. 203 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: Like our goal is to make the decisions necessary to 204 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: you know, make improvements both in the short term and 205 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: the long. 206 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: Term foundation of the team. 207 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: We do have guys that we like that that you 208 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: know we'll be a part of both. But you know, 209 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: there are going to have to be some changes that 210 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: we do that we do make with the team that. 211 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 10: Players don't feel like they were put in a position 212 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 10: to be successful and the good organization played to how 213 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 10: the team was built and their strengths as individuals. And 214 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 10: you know, part of that too, is is with what 215 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 10: Miles had to say a couple of weeks ago about 216 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 10: his frustrations with the state of affairs. So I guess 217 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 10: just in your exit process with these players, I'm going 218 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 10: to ask you to reveal confidential conversations, but just what 219 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 10: was the message to players like Miles and those that 220 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 10: felt like they were not put in a position to 221 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 10: be successful this year as far as making sure that 222 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 10: doesn't happen in. 223 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five. 224 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: I'd say first, Daryl, that I think everybody shares in 225 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: the frustration of this of the season, our fans, our players, 226 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: our coaches, ownership, you know, football operations. Everybody realizes that 227 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: just the results weren't weren't good enough. 228 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: You know. 229 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: That being said, I think there's there is shared ownership. 230 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: It's not just it's not just one thing. You know, 231 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: there were areas where we could have buttressed the roster better. 232 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: There are things that we could have done on the 233 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: sidelines better. There were things that you know, our best 234 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: players they have to play up to their potential. You know, 235 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: that's also an element of it, and so you know, 236 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: we all share in it because the reality of it is, 237 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: when you win three games, I wish it was just 238 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: one thing, but it's a it's a collective failure. 239 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 11: Andrew, do you obviously, Miles was strong about not wanting 240 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 11: to go to the rebuild. 241 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: First of all, do you think a rebuild, Taradot is necessary? 242 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: Yes, Scot, I don't ension an off season where we're 243 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: you know, moving on from a ton of core players. 244 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: Like I think a lot of the decisions as we 245 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: think about, you know, some of the areas that we 246 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: may need to strategically pivot is going to be about 247 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: both short term and long term decisions. So like I 248 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: do expect there to be some some turnover on the roster, 249 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: but the idea that we would get rid of, you know, 250 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: some of our cornerstone players, you know, I don't necessarily 251 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 2: see that as a viable path he. 252 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Can win next year? Did you did, Miles? I guess 253 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: by the blueprint that he was looking for. 254 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'll answer that in two parts. So let 255 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: me say, in terms of Miles, my anticipation, expectation is 256 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: that he'll have a you know, a direct ticket from Cleveland. 257 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: The Canton at the end of the year and expect 258 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: him to be here, you know, and retire Brown quite frankly, 259 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: in terms of winning, like you know, our goal is 260 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: always going to be to win our wait, oh, goal 261 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: is always going to be to improve the team. 262 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: I think, you know, one of the beauties of the NFL. 263 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: I think I guess maybe a parallel you think about 264 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: the team that was holding the two pick last year, 265 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: We're going to see them next week play I'm not 266 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: quite sure where they played, Peter, but we see Washington 267 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: playing in the playoffs this year. So you can never 268 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: really never, never really put necessarily a timeframe on it. 269 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: Like you know, with player movement and how things change 270 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: in the NFL, it's hard to have a crystal ball. 271 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: But we really will be focused on, you. 272 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: Know, making the decisions that we think can not just 273 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: allow us to have a you know, a ten or 274 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: eleven win blip, but really allow us to stay there. 275 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: And so that will be balancing about the short term 276 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: and long. 277 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 11: Term and why about something like that? 278 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: And wants to know the plan? 279 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 6: How important is transparency to. 280 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 11: You and how much do you feel like that is your. 281 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 6: Job to provide the information to players to make sure 282 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 6: that they know what they're going into. 283 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cam, it's a it's a great question. 284 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: You know, We've always believed in having direct, in hotest 285 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: communication with our with our players. 286 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: It's something that we do regularly. 287 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: It's something that we do, you know, particularly the longer 288 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: term things really more at the end of the year, 289 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: that's what we views more of an appropriate time as 290 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: opposed to the. 291 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: End of the season. 292 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: So that's something that has been like a regular part 293 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: of our I guess a part of our fabric. And 294 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: you know, look, everyone in the organization has so much 295 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: investment this time, energy, sweat, equity, and I think you 296 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: guys know Miles, he he wants to win. He puts 297 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: everything into it, and he's one of our cornerstone, cornerstone players. 298 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: Given the way that I'll get you next, actually, first 299 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: let him be a gentleman. 300 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 11: So Nick Chop, I mean last year we were so complimentary, 301 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 11: But do you still envision him having a future here 302 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 11: and can he get back to being a top back? 303 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 304 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: You know, Actually I want to start by saying, I 305 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: think everybody in this room knows how much respect that 306 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: we have for Nick and how much appreciation we have 307 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: for you. Know, not just like his his exploits on 308 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: the field, but who he is in the locker room 309 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: and who he is as a person. You know, it's 310 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: it's always a challenging situation when you know one of 311 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: your cornerstone players their their contract is up. That's probably 312 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit the different situation you know, this 313 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: year relative to you know, relative to last where there 314 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: is maybe perhaps a little bit you know, less control 315 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: on the club side with you know, with it. 316 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: You know, those are all. 317 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: Decisions that we do have to work through in the 318 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: next several weeks. We love Nick, He's he's going to 319 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: be a Ring of Honor player for us, and and 320 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: and we know that in terms of the short term, 321 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's something that quite honest, So we 322 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: just have to work through over the next several weeks. 323 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 8: Andrew I wanted to ask, given the way Deshawn's time, 324 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 8: Shawn's tenure, current tenure in Cleveland, and even the way 325 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 8: his season ended with some fans appearing to boo to cheer, 326 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 8: and your conversations with him, has he like uh told 327 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 8: you that he like does want to remain in Cleveland 328 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 8: and being the starting quarterback of this team went went healthy. 329 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say this, Daniel DeShawn is number one. He's 330 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: very focused on on on getting healthy, you know, for 331 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: all the obvious reasons, like that's that's that's the first 332 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: thing that's top of mind. You know, Deshawn's invested in 333 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: being here like that's you know that no point has 334 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: he given an indication in terms of not wanting to 335 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: be here or leaving the city or anything along those lines. 336 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: He's really focused on getting himself healthy and you know, 337 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: performing to performing to a higher level. 338 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 10: Well, you've shown a willingness to I don't want to 339 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 10: say ignore red flags, but be a little maybe a 340 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 10: little more tolerant of some red flags. What what through 341 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 10: the player acquisition process? My question is because that hasn't 342 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,479 Speaker 10: paid dividends that I think everyone. 343 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: Was hoping for. 344 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 10: Where you reevaluate that part as far as like maybe 345 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 10: some of your red flag non negotiables when when you're 346 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 10: looking at bringing in some players. 347 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there. 348 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: I think every individual is unique, you know, I think 349 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: there are there are no perfect people, and you know, 350 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: I think part of our responsibility as an organization is 351 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: to help guys to grow mature, not just on the field, 352 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: but you know, also with like their lives and careers. 353 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: Each situation is different. 354 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, there are some situations that you know, we 355 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: do have an infrastructure to support and help in some 356 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: situations that we don't. And there also is like you know, 357 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: individual ownership that that comes with it. So you know, 358 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: we evisuate, We evaluate those situations on a case by 359 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: case basis with the information that we have. You know, 360 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: some of them will work out, some of them, some 361 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: of them won't. I think that's kind of the nature 362 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: of it, you know, really in every in every building. 363 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: But you know, we we really do want to support 364 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: and help our guys grow. 365 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: Hey, go back to the offense and the change that 366 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: were made. 367 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 12: Last year, is my understanding, you reached out to Buffalo 368 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 12: and got a pretty honest evaluations of King's strengths and weaknesses. 369 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 12: Who was behind the decision to bring kick here? And 370 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 12: then why were you still comfortable bringing him on when 371 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 12: you got a pretty one assessment from Buffalo? 372 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: What didn't work there? 373 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, you know, Jason, I'd say number one when 374 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: it comes to the coaching staff, that's you know, that's 375 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: Kevin's decision, it's Kevin's Kevin's responsibility. Number two, like with 376 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: anyone that we bring into the organization. We do, we 377 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: do do. 378 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: A lot of diligence as as you reference. 379 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: You know, really the stuff out of Buffalo was you 380 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: know what, Actually, let me back up for a second. 381 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: I think, and Kevin mentioned this yesterday, the offensive struggles, 382 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: they were not just about Ken, Like, I think it 383 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: would be unfair of us to to suggest that because 384 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: we didn't perform appropriately on offense, that you know, that 385 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: it would be pinned on him, because that's you know, 386 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: that's that's just not the it's just not the case. 387 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: I'd say. 388 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: Secondly, you know, Ken was an excellent professional. He's a 389 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: good coach. You know, he's he's he's really strong in 390 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: a number of areas, you know, particularly all our po game, 391 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: the temple world, the pass game, things like that. I 392 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: think the circumstances this year across a variety of levels. 393 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: You know, we're you know, we're not ideal for the 394 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: offensive staff just being just being quite blunt. But in 395 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: terms of Ken Dorsey, he's he's a good coach. You know, 396 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: all the work that that we had done on him, 397 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: that Kevin had done on him, you know, we felt 398 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: really comfortable with with what we were bringing into the building. 399 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: You know, he's he's going to land on his feet 400 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: and he's going to be successful. 401 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: When you when you examined your missus was not bringing 402 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 6: Flaco back a good miss or bad mess. 403 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say this, you know, Tony, you know, in 404 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: terms of like the the backup quarterback, you know, world, 405 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: I don't know that really what we had on the 406 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball and how we played on offense. 407 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: Would have been influenced by like one change in the decision. 408 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: I think it was probably a variety of things that 409 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: that you know, led to our challenges out to that 410 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: side the ball. 411 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: We we you. 412 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: Know, we didn't play we didn't play as consistently upfront 413 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: as we're accustomed to doing. Obviously, we dealt with injuries 414 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: and inconsistency at quarterback. We dealt with injuries at the 415 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: end of the year. At the skill positions. We turned 416 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: the ball over a lot. I don't know that there 417 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: was a you know, a cure all decision, you know, 418 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: regardless of quarterback or any other position that would have 419 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: changed the fortunes of the offense. 420 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: You know, it's collective collective failure for us there. 421 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 9: Injury when it's just the first week of January. And 422 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 9: there's maybe not an exact answer for this, but where 423 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 9: are you guys with the twenty five quarterback class in 424 00:19:59,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 9: relation to. 425 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: Are you need to be in a few months. 426 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in a good spot. Like we we always 427 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: work ahead with the draft process. It's it's it's like 428 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: a year and a half thing for us. We've obviously 429 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: finished up the college scouting season now that all the 430 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: or almost all the college games are done. Obviously we 431 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: have the college Football Playoff and everything, and our scouts are, 432 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 2: you know, really gearing up for you know, the all 433 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: star games that are coming up at the end or 434 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: some that have already started, and then some the major 435 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: ones that are coming up at the end of the month. 436 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: So we feel like we're in a good spot. 437 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: Obviously, we've got a long way to go before we 438 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: know the draft class intimately, but fortunately those are decisions 439 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: that we have to make until end of April. 440 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 9: When yourself, do you anymore than normal with. 441 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: With your courtbun so you know, to be honest, like, yeah, 442 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: I do a fairmount. I do a fair mount in 443 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: the fall, and so I I think I've said before 444 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: that we really go into the process with the idea 445 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: that we have an expansion team, right, so we want 446 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: to make sure that we're covered across all positions, regardless 447 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: of you know, what our needs are coming out of 448 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: the season. And a big part of that is because 449 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: pretty much every year the needs that you think going in, 450 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 2: there's at least some level of change coming out of it. 451 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: But we feel like we're going to be in a 452 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: good spot there. 453 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 7: And Andrew, when you go through like a business makes 454 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 7: a sucist significant move like you did with WATS and 455 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 7: all the assets of everything to go into it, that 456 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 7: xploes backwards. 457 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 5: From whatever you want to call out this. So one, 458 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 5: have you looked at where that went wrong? And secondly 459 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 5: that how do you recover what's. 460 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 7: Again accountscept three million or whenever we're on the gap in the. 461 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: Next couple of years. So can you address pull where 462 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 5: it went wrong? And then how do you recover? 463 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd say, you know, Terry, you know probably 464 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: first and foremost, I think that you know to date 465 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: that the trade hasn't gone as we had hoped or anticipated, 466 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: hasn't gone how you and DeShawn has hoped or anticipated. 467 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: I think certainly a big part of it is you know, 468 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: the stop start with availability and that you know, we 469 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: we never have gotten consistent perform it's at you know, 470 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: at that at that position. I think there's a variety 471 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: of factors in that. That's not just you know, not 472 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: just the quarterback. You know, we all share in in 473 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: culpability with that. The one thing is like when you 474 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: do you know, looking you know, we've never been afraid 475 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: to take big swings, things that we think can help 476 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: the team and help the organization. You know, sometimes you'll 477 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: sometimes you'll hit, and sometimes they won't. 478 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: Go quite according to quite according to plan. 479 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: But the one thing that we always do look at 480 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: is you understand, with with any with any business where 481 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: you take on risk or you where you make decisions, 482 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 2: you understand that there is both like upside and downside. 483 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: There's no such thing as like a riskless transaction. And 484 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: one thing that we always do want to do is 485 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: is really protect you know, protect our downside as much 486 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: as you can, and you know we will be positioned, 487 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, moving forward. You know, both from a cap 488 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: perspective and I hate how we got here, but you 489 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: with having the second pick in the aft, whether we 490 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: select a player or use it, to to to you know, maximize. 491 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: In another way, it gives us an opportunity to to 492 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: really to really pivot if we need to let me 493 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: let me go here first, and I'll come back to you, Daryl, 494 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: just because you've asked one along. 495 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 13: The lines of where you guys are in the draft, 496 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 13: how does the last three years I'm not having a 497 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 13: first round pick sort of impact or influence how you 498 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 13: guys will kind of treat both I guess the number 499 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 13: two pick, but also kind of what you do, like 500 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 13: do you feel like you almost is there any sort 501 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 13: of sense you'd needed to play catch. 502 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: Up a little bit and try to get some player, 503 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: certainly when you're like in a you know, when you're 504 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: in a deficit from a draft asset perspective, like, you know, 505 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: it does create certain it can create certain challenges. That's 506 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: not necessarily how we would look at it at this point, 507 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: not necessarily in terms of you know, creating catchups or trying. 508 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: To catch up so to speak. 509 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: We'd actually really probably look at it from like, Okay, 510 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: as we analyze the roster, you know, who are our 511 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: core players short term and long term? You know, what 512 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: are some of the areas where you know, we would 513 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: need to make some immediate improvements, versus, hey, this is 514 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: something that's maybe a longer term, lurking need and really 515 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: operate from there, because it's it's it's it's less about 516 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: what's happened in the past. 517 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: That's, you know, to some degree irrelevant at. 518 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: That point, and more about where are we starting from 519 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: a from a baseline standpoint, and that's how we'll make 520 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: decisions moving forward. 521 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: Let me, I promise, I promised. 522 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 10: They all first, compounding the results to date following the 523 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 10: Watson trade, fans are watching the success that Baker is 524 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 10: having a Tampa Bay and they're asking, why on earth 525 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 10: could that not happen here? So could you just, in 526 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 10: whatever way possible maybe explain to fans why it was 527 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 10: so necessary to move on from Baker and why he 528 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 10: could not, you know, be ready to achieve the success 529 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 10: that he's now having elsewhere. 530 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So first, first to day, it's like, you know, 531 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: Baker's doing a terrific job in Tampa and certainly happy 532 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: for him. 533 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: I know. 534 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: You obviously he created a lot of really great memories 535 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: for us here. I think Darryl like a big part 536 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: of you know, quarterback success or failure, you know, it 537 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: can be it can be environment, and you know, I 538 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: think the environment that these guys come into can play 539 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: a huge part in terms of their development. Baker is 540 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: obviously a really talented quarterback, and I think part of 541 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 2: like what we go through in terms of like our 542 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: ups and downs, whether it's personal or professional, there also 543 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: is individual growth. But he's doing a great job and 544 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: doing a great job in Tampa. I think he's grown 545 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: as a player, he's grown as a person. And you 546 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: obviously they're you know, they're in a good place there. 547 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 4: Andrew you talked earlier about you know, a coach, you know, 548 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: using a system that fits a quarterback or at. 549 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 3: Least like you know, tweaking it. 550 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 4: But when you think about quarterback environments and when you 551 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 4: acquired a sean Kevin had a track record of doing 552 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: a certain type of offense in the NFL and succeeding with it, 553 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 4: and DeShawn had a track record. 554 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 14: Of succeeding in Houston with it with with another type. 555 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 14: Has that difference between the two philosophies and styles trying 556 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 14: to make it all work together, has that been a 557 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 14: greater obstacle than maybe anticipated. 558 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 4: When he made the deal. 559 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: It's it's a good question, Nate. I think that. 560 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: It's I think it's unfair to put either Kevin or 561 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: DeShawn in a box, understanding that you know, what he 562 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: did in Houston and what we were doing before the trade, 563 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, were different schematically. But that being said, like 564 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: Kevin's been a part of a number of different systems 565 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: throughout his career. He's he's a very smart offensive mind. 566 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: He's able to he's able to adjust and adapt, and 567 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: you know, I think he'd probably tell you there's actually 568 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 2: a lot of overlap in in many different office systems. 569 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: You may get to you may get to different concepts 570 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: in in in different ways or you know, I guess 571 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: really just in different ways. Uh. But I think that's 572 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: there's probably a little bit too much made of that. 573 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: Look, it hasn't, you know. 574 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: Yielded the the impact that you know that we had 575 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: had hoped it would be easy to still distill it 576 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: into any one thing. But I do think that there's 577 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: perhaps a little bit too much made out of that. 578 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 11: What do you envision there? I mean, is there a 579 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 11: world that Judge Willis is back here? And did you 580 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 11: guys see enough out of Duan Jones to feel like 581 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 11: have an evaluation of him over there. 582 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe to start with Jed, it's probably like 583 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: all of our players with expiring deals, where you know, 584 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: there's we've got to work through all of that in 585 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: the next in the next several weeks, you know. With 586 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: the wand we did feel like he was actually you know, 587 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: hitting his stride before he got injured, you know, middle 588 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 2: of the year. It is funny because Kevin was like, hey, 589 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: you don't, let's just kick him over to left tackle 590 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: during during one of the practice weeks, and then we 591 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: had the injury. It was like, oh, well, I guess 592 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: he's got to play the next week. 593 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: It ended up being I. 594 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: Guess, uh uh, you know, pressy and if you if 595 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: you speak, And I think the Wanders ares credit because 596 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: it's really like the first time in his career that 597 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: he's played at the spot with probably minimal preparation, and 598 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: you know, he he acclimated pretty pretty quickly. 599 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 3: How that spot. 600 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: Looks going into twenty twenty five, it's probably too early, 601 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: too early to tell, but we did feel like it 602 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: was good to get him some game experience at that position. 603 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 12: Oh, off, environment, do you feel like this environment here 604 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 12: is good enough? Like it's conducive, its conducive of winning 605 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 12: a winning culture. 606 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: I do, I do, Andrew would quarterback. Obviously you're going 607 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: to need to add some there. Did you look at 608 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: how the landscape for the off season might be. 609 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 9: Do you feel it, Number one, there will be quality 610 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 9: veterans available as freeze into your. 611 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: Trade and could you see hearing that. 612 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: And with a top record, I'd say Scott that I 613 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: think there's opportunity every off season. You know, I wouldn't 614 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: necessarily constrain us to any you know, one way of attacking, 615 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: whether it's the quarterback position or any position across the roster. 616 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: We've always prided ourselves on being opportunistic, and you know 617 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: there are probably also opportunities that you know, we don't 618 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: see today that will pop up over the next several months. 619 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: So we'll be flexible in that regard. 620 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: You can give a j ok update please, I'll be honest, Jef, 621 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't have anything other than what Kevin told you 622 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: guys yesterday. 623 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: You know he's he's still working. 624 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: In the rehab and when we have a meaningful update, 625 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: we'll make sure we share next year as well. I said, 626 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: that's our hope for sure. But again with these long 627 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: term injuries. I don't I really don't have a crystal 628 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: ball with it. 629 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: And can you sort of explain what what the Deshaun 630 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: Watson extension actually did for you guys and what might 631 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: happen with that. 632 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: No, I definitely understand and respect the question, Mary kay, 633 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: But you know, I you know, you know, I don't 634 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: talk about you know, contracts in this setting. 635 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: What do you like about this quarterback class coming up? 636 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: You know what, I think every every class has its strengths. 637 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm probably probably not the appropriate time for me to 638 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: go into detail on the prospect class. I do get, 639 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 2: you know, get the question. But I'm sure there will 640 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: be guys that that we like as we work. 641 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: Through it, and you and Kevin have a lot of 642 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: big decisions. The entire organization is, but you guys ahead 643 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: of it, I have a lot of big decisions coming. 644 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: How important is it for you guys to maintain alignment 645 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: through this offseason as you you know, you're trying to 646 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: recover in. 647 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: Three and fourteen. 648 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: It's huge, Nate, you know, but you know, the good 649 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: thing is I always say that we work side by side, 650 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: and we fight back to back. I have a ton 651 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: of respect for Kevin on a personal level. On a 652 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: professional level, he's a great coach. I'm really not worried about, 653 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: you know that part of it because I have a 654 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: fantastic partner Andrew. 655 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 11: Assuming that DeShawn Watson comes back healthy, have you seen 656 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 11: enough and what have you seen that leads you to 657 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 11: believe that he can still play. 658 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 6: Winning football for the Leap? 659 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 660 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, Mary Kay, like our our focus 661 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: with Deshaun, especially after yesterday, is getting him healthy and 662 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: it really starts with that and and making sure that 663 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: he's physically right where you know, he can play to 664 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: the best of his ability when he's on the field, 665 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: and and that's really where our that's really where our 666 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: focus is with. 667 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 12: Him being the Hall injury starts Mike Hall taking any 668 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 12: surgery after that. 669 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: Mr, So, he did sustain an injury that you know 670 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: will be in the will be in the months. Uh, 671 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: surgery certainly is a is a possibility, you know, but 672 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: he should should return and perform. Scott, I kind of 673 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: put this in the bucket of and I'll go back 674 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: to last year at this time when we had maybe 675 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: estimates with some of our key players and they probably 676 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: they probably went a little bit longer than normal. So 677 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to handle it a little bit differently this year, 678 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: just because with these longer term injuries, it is a 679 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: little bit more it is a little bit more variable, 680 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: and I don't want to lead you astray. 681 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: Chance you could be ready for next to be that's correct, Yeah, 682 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: that's correct. 683 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 10: All right. 684 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys. All right, take it easy. 685 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode of the From the 686 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Podium Podcast. Be sure to like an subscribe to the 687 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: show wherever you get your podcasts. 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