WEBVTT - EP 379: Over 1,800 Moans (Ft. Mr. Marcus)

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what decision. We're about to make horrible decisions, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't moan. We have to start the episode that way. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Horrible Decisions. We have to start this way

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what he thought this was about. Today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty in the morning, but you thought that you was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have us moaning today.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all, welcome to another episode of Horrible Decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your girl, Mady b.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm weezy.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>We are so hyped to this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>And all right, As each year of Horrible goes on,

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<v Speaker 4>the guests get even better, but also we get with

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<v Speaker 4>city girls, and for us today it's today.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna hold you to you being here ages

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<v Speaker 1>us only because we have literally wanted to this year. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had so many great horn legends sit with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's when we also identify our own audience.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd be like, damn these niggas are and oh yeah, plus,

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<v Speaker 1>we ain't got no your nigs.

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<v Speaker 4>They'd be like, oh my god, this is my They

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<v Speaker 4>start putting in the request they see Havanna.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, get icele fuck, get Jada, get matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>get mister Marcus, I can't even believe you it did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. When she said I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>mister Marcus, I was like, and what holdo? How are

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<v Speaker 1>you working all him? How did you do I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do to was? So I just want to share

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<v Speaker 1>with the audience how funny this was. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>need to know what research you did to make you

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<v Speaker 1>think that what we was gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so let me just ask this. When I hit

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<v Speaker 4>you and I was like, hey, love to have you

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<v Speaker 4>on horrible. You rode back and We're like, can you

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<v Speaker 4>explain to me? And I was like, oh you niggas corn?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you know? No?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean I was peeping game because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what you know, what with what people are trying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been around a long time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've watched some things get established and see agendas

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<v Speaker 5>and I see different subjects, and I've also seen porn

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<v Speaker 5>become a lot more mainstream and accepted, and podcasting has

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<v Speaker 5>been a wave where a lot of adult stars have

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<v Speaker 5>went further more notoriety, more build a better, bigger audience.

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<v Speaker 1>One. Yeah, I mean I think I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing too, because it's not as taboo. They're shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>they're filming. I know that we talked about. Even Adam

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<v Speaker 1>and Lena they sit with porn stars and then they

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<v Speaker 1>do a scene right after so and it's just you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, but yeah, that's that, that's where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when you were.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up though, like it's crazy because I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 4>your crossover. I think because in my brain I only

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<v Speaker 4>watched Blackborns, so I always felt like, mister Marcus is

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<v Speaker 4>like our secrets, right. And then when I was thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about your book, because I kind of forgot about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working on you know what questions to ask you

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<v Speaker 4>and last night my way for the sitting there and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes, didn't I they write it like a guide.

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<v Speaker 1>You wrote a book.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's when I realized, like, oh, that is bigger

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<v Speaker 4>than just blackcorn, Like you really did cross over to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Love is one of those who crossed over.

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<v Speaker 1>And but your your book. I wanted going from being

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<v Speaker 1>on set right scenes fucking what made you say next

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<v Speaker 1>step is I'm going to write a book.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a reader. I love you know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up my mother newspapers.

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<v Speaker 5>I was delivering newspapers, so I would sit there and

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, I'd be at home just reading every

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<v Speaker 5>single page.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm a reader. I like to So when

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to the bookstore, you know, i'd go

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<v Speaker 2>to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Self help and sexual sexual health, sexual enjoyment area, and

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<v Speaker 5>it wouldn't it be these books written by doctors about sex,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just thought it was a good, cool take.

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<v Speaker 5>Just I always wrote notes, and I've always kind of

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<v Speaker 5>documented my my history in this industry, just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>little notes here and there. Right, I was always writing

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<v Speaker 5>little things about this perspective in the industry. So it

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<v Speaker 5>really came out of that. You know, somebody was like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just put it into a book. So we

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of started putting all these little antidotes and quotes.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long did it take you to me?

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<v Speaker 2>About two years?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, we're working on a book right now and we

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<v Speaker 3>got a deadline.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would write. I would drive around

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<v Speaker 5>with a voicemail mode. This is before I used to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, do it on the phone. But I would

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<v Speaker 5>drive around little voicemail mode just kind of voicing out,

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<v Speaker 5>talking it out.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, it's probably because the era in which

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<v Speaker 4>you wrote a book, the way that stuff has changed.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's really like what I wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>with you, because when I clicked on you and I

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<v Speaker 4>saw wikipedia birth date and how movies?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know your Beyonce's birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>Not? Of course?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, of course you know you share Beyonce's birthday because

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<v Speaker 4>of your birthday, age, old birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>My birthday. I was right, I'll be looking at my

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<v Speaker 1>feet and it's all Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 2>I rely hey, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, like, hey, no one, no one recognizes me on

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it from now?

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<v Speaker 3>It's tomorrow now.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that was the most shocking, and

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of had to confirm it before you even

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<v Speaker 1>sat with us, for anyone listening who may not have

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen, mister Marcus.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you really do eighteen hundred films?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean it flew.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so from ninety four to what year?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you start about two thousand and ten eleven?

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<v Speaker 1>That's still too much. That's still eighteen hundred and is

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<v Speaker 1>there even eighteen hundred days between that? Here's the real

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<v Speaker 1>question with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking every day, and I feel like I'm almost jumping past,

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<v Speaker 4>but I really need to know. Has there ever been

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<v Speaker 4>a point where the sex was so much that you

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<v Speaker 4>had to like have a little period of celibacy.

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<v Speaker 5>Even m I mean because I always tell people, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>bad sex is worse than no sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh we know that whenever we was getting dicklas.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the thing, even in celibacy or taking spouts,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I wanted was.

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<v Speaker 3>To break it with bad dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, But what is bad sex to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Because out of all those eighteen hundred films, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way it was enjoyable every time. So what is bad

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<v Speaker 1>sex to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, bad sex is no chemistry? Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't feel you know, wasted time. You feel like

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<v Speaker 5>you feel like it done something better with your time.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh you know, there's no reciprocation, you don't feel like

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<v Speaker 5>you know that it's just gave and you received.

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<v Speaker 3>Then are you having good sex imporn?

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<v Speaker 2>You can? You know you can because you have.

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<v Speaker 4>A style of fucking. It to me seems like a performance.

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<v Speaker 4>So when watching it, I'm like, oh shit, but are

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<v Speaker 4>you is it natural?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you in it? Can you forget the cameras.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean that's what you want. That's what you want. Ah,

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<v Speaker 5>you want to just kind of lose yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm doing a sex club. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>got to lose yourself in a sex club so that

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<v Speaker 1>people can watch you so you can enjoy it. Okay, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you just gotta lose yourself. So so then when it's good,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you decipher whether this is

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna stay business or does it ever leave the

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<v Speaker 1>set when it's good? Because once I get a good dick,

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<v Speaker 1>I want it forever. Do you ever get good Kuchie?

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<v Speaker 1>Or have you gotten it to where on set it

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<v Speaker 1>was so good that you were like try.

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<v Speaker 2>To you know, you were going out after this?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I would even be in the middle of the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, this is mine? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what you meant it? I would mean it just

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<v Speaker 1>to get it confirmed. But you know, who are those

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<v Speaker 1>stars for you that we may know?

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<v Speaker 3>They got that? Who got that good?

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<v Speaker 2>Puss?

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<v Speaker 1>Who got it?

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<v Speaker 5>Who had that good? I mean you said you had

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<v Speaker 5>a ban on a while ago. You know Van is awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's right?

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<v Speaker 2>Heathern Hunter.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, she's all right, icon man, iconic, you know, beyond

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<v Speaker 5>the sex. I mean, it's just that's just a fraction

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<v Speaker 5>of who she is. There was a girl I was

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<v Speaker 5>I was into. She was European, Sylvia, Saint Sylvia sat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't look at me, like, don't white girl, you

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<v Speaker 1>already don't you don't she was Doe but Europeans.

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<v Speaker 3>What part of she was?

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<v Speaker 2>Check? Check Republicans?

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<v Speaker 4>So wait, you said Heather Hunter, everything about like beyond

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<v Speaker 4>the sex. What does that mean for a man when

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<v Speaker 4>they're thinking that good that you could have good sex

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<v Speaker 4>or good beyond the sex?

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<v Speaker 1>What is I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Because we would kick it beyond you know, we were like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what it was, but we just like

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<v Speaker 5>we met, We just clicked, you know, we were hanging

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<v Speaker 5>out in Venice, and then when we did the scene,

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't like it was work, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>It was more like just us doing our thing. The

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<v Speaker 5>chemistry was there. She was on the contract with Vivid

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<v Speaker 5>at the time, so she had older right than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, in my head, other Hunter is like a fourn

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<v Speaker 1>decade back.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe because she didn't make it into two thousands

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<v Speaker 3>too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, she didn't, she didn't push.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So when it comes to that era of porn

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<v Speaker 4>for you, how what were some changes you saw from

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<v Speaker 4>like nineties to two thousands, like describe your first shoot

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<v Speaker 4>to the last?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, right, right?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the first I mean, I think the big

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<v Speaker 5>change was social media Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. When I came in, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Were VHS you know what I mean, it was VHS

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<v Speaker 5>and magazine and so.

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<v Speaker 1>You were only then even available or known to people

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<v Speaker 1>who went to those stories, right, so you were you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like you were known.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I didn't even. I wasn't. There wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't even want to use the word porn star.

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<v Speaker 5>I tell people all the time, just I didn't even.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I was like, I'm not a porn star.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, wait, what did you want to be called them?

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<v Speaker 5>I was just I was just making movies, you feel me, doctor, Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 5>I was saying that serious. I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying to read my lines. I was trying

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<v Speaker 5>to make the sex real, you know, genuine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, there wasn't No. I wasn't faking it.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't take no, I wasn't taking bag run And

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<v Speaker 5>there was no sign cialis.

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<v Speaker 2>It was none of that.

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<v Speaker 5>If you didn't get your dig hard, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>crew would literally turn off the lights and wait till

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<v Speaker 5>you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. So that's that's the air that I you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't even think that today. Oh no, no, no, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to someone. They shoot niggas in their dick now,

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<v Speaker 1>like not with a gun, but like there's a needle

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<v Speaker 1>that I hear shoots Like they shoot up in their

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<v Speaker 1>dick and it keeps them hard for hours where it kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of hurts them.

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<v Speaker 1>But go to the hospital sometimes literally sometimes like and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, you put needles in your dick

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like yeah, because maybe because everything is so

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<v Speaker 1>internet wise, niggas ain't waiting for your dick to get hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has to be hard otherwise the set doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many people on set now they're like, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the shoot. They're your dick is gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you pumped?

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<v Speaker 3>Liked the pumps? And only he get like, uh, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome?

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<v Speaker 3>Powers?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever use the pump?

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<v Speaker 5>I have never used the pump. I actually have one

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<v Speaker 5>on the on the on the ship. You know, I had,

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<v Speaker 5>they had Doc Johnson. I got a deal it out

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<v Speaker 5>with them, but we put out a pump, so I

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<v Speaker 5>tried using it.

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<v Speaker 2>And didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's fine to say now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you know it may work for people. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not knocking. That's what it tastes from.

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<v Speaker 4>Yead't get hard with no confidence is a different thing, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like today it's aesthetic and it's how your

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<v Speaker 4>dick looks to me in your era, much like that

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<v Speaker 4>when we had nat here too, it was about how

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<v Speaker 4>you were fucking like I remember that even I always

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<v Speaker 4>was thinking about you as I was like mister Mark's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fuck from the side, like he was always doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Some crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, I think, uh, I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>probably easier now. I mean, because the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 5>you want to be comfortable. So if you create that

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<v Speaker 5>environment for it, then it's probably a lot easier for

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<v Speaker 5>you to perform in it because you got more control

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<v Speaker 5>over it, you know what I mean. I was trying

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<v Speaker 5>to I wasn't. I was, you know, each set that

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<v Speaker 5>I would show up on, I was like, it was like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, is it gonna work? Is it gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>comfortable enough? It's a girl gonna we're gonna have chemistry.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the camera, you know, gonna get in the way,

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<v Speaker 5>is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I would direct sometimes depending on what they wanted. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>each scene for me was just like, Okay, what's it

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<v Speaker 5>gonna take.

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<v Speaker 2>To do this?

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<v Speaker 1>So I love scenes as in I love acting and

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you say you were just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember your life. What is your favorite scenario or scene

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<v Speaker 1>that you played out?

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<v Speaker 5>Favorite scenario is always like a dominant submissive thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, like put me on. What

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<v Speaker 5>is teacher you talking about the other day? Well, you

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<v Speaker 5>know the girls, she's she's her boyfriend, her husband owes

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<v Speaker 5>me money.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them, yea, what is all? My god?

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<v Speaker 3>And now she has to fucking fuck you to pay.

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<v Speaker 5>Off your day that she kind of don't want to,

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<v Speaker 5>but she kind of wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's on the set watching you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>He kind of he sends her over there and she's

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<v Speaker 5>like she shows up like, yeah, I gotta you know,

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<v Speaker 5>my dude sucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we owe you, but I want to handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, Remember I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it, but see, honestly, when things are consensual,

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<v Speaker 4>I hate that. That's true. But like I'll start doing

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<v Speaker 4>it in my own house. Last night I forgot. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to eat meat right now, just fish. I

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<v Speaker 4>made chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I thought you was begging Sam, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have to make it up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, Bitch, I'm hungry. I won't fitch, but I.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like when you have a true sub and you

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<v Speaker 4>you can't help it, it's everything Like I want to

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<v Speaker 4>fuck up all things so I can get honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my good.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of witch, Witch, we had Joanna Angeline a few

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<v Speaker 4>months back and she talked about that hardcore BDSM stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there ever stuff? Because I never really seen you

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<v Speaker 4>in that, oh like hard what's some of your most

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<v Speaker 4>hardcore rough scenes?

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<v Speaker 5>I did a movie called rough Sex, and that came

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<v Speaker 5>out maybe ninety ninety nine, but it was it was

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<v Speaker 5>like ahead of the curve and it was you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's me and like three girls or four girls.

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<v Speaker 2>They all had to be like submissive, and I just had.

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<v Speaker 5>To dominate the funk out and so it was cool

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<v Speaker 5>because it got it got you know, as a black man,

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<v Speaker 5>and there were like four white girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that in that time, you know what year was,

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like ninety seven ninety eight. Wow, And it wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there was people that was like a little backlash,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a backlash for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean they supposedly took it off the shelves

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<v Speaker 5>because it was just kind of like it was a

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<v Speaker 5>little too much because I kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of went, but is it because it was too like

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<v Speaker 1>I was maybe, but it was more so though because

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<v Speaker 1>it was into racing. Were you hitting them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, but you know, I like the smack ass.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just something I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think every man would have dick.

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<v Speaker 3>I pulsed. Even my game friends like.

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<v Speaker 5>You like that, you know you want to hit it.

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<v Speaker 3>It took us all. Wow, by the way, she's a

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<v Speaker 3>little gay. Look the way who just hit your hands?

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<v Speaker 1>Sir? No?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that just that smack right. I read like some

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<v Speaker 4>of the chapters in your book, What Women Want? Would

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<v Speaker 4>you say, because I want to talk about how.

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<v Speaker 3>The men can be too rough today?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say, though.

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<v Speaker 4>Percent of most women want to be dominated. What have

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<v Speaker 4>you learned in your time?

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<v Speaker 5>If they if they trust you, if you know what

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing, then the most likely they'll follow your lead.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're confident in what you're doing, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing. So I said, there's a majority women just

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<v Speaker 5>want to be in good hands, you know what I mean, Ballad.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you had moments where women are asking you for

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<v Speaker 4>something that's a little too much? Like a friend of

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<v Speaker 4>mine told me he doesn't like to close fists, but

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<v Speaker 4>some girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally I don't want nobody wait punching, that's that's not mo. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a I was fucking this one girl, o Nique,

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<v Speaker 5>that's her name. I love Monique and we used to

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<v Speaker 5>always have great time. And then just one you know,

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<v Speaker 5>she's on the I'm on the edge, She's on the

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<v Speaker 5>edge of the bed and I'm standing above her and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sucking her and she just hold off and hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she just closed her open hand. I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was open hand, and I was like, what the you do?

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<v Speaker 5>I stopped and everybody, like the camera guy was like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>she was in it, oh she was. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I had to take a moment I had to walk

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<v Speaker 5>off the cell, like you know you doing Wait a second,

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<v Speaker 5>how how then so that happened? You say, you have

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<v Speaker 5>to walk off set? How do you get back in?

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<v Speaker 5>I actually walked outside. I walked outside and the director,

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<v Speaker 5>she came out as a female director too, because I

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<v Speaker 5>guess she was. She was all into it. You're like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh that was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good?

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<v Speaker 2>You're good.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, yeah, just give give and we ended

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<v Speaker 5>finished up to say she apologized and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But it caught me off.

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<v Speaker 1>God. So then, I know, for for women especially going in,

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<v Speaker 1>well there was normally talks about boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now, I mean now way more.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't a conversation then. But was there ever

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries that you said, I mean, you know, or were

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<v Speaker 1>you allowed to? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean that's the whole point. The whole thing was.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, porn was evolving. You know, we were getting

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<v Speaker 5>you know, companies were becoming more corporate.

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<v Speaker 2>The Internet was changing things. Internet companies were coming in.

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<v Speaker 5>They had a whole different way of how they shot porn,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, they didn't need to they

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<v Speaker 5>weren't letting performance perform. They usually had it all structured

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<v Speaker 5>and timed and then Vanna kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of said something like that about performing, like she kept

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<v Speaker 4>saying that word. I think about how like the stars

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<v Speaker 4>porn stars, like I was working, and I can see

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<v Speaker 4>what you mean, like how they've got things structured.

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<v Speaker 1>Out to its way more struss elms.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have a day off?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, we get into eighteen hundred films.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you get because who are the most famous

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just think famous corn stars period.

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<v Speaker 1>Male. If there's a top five, who is oh name,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, you're in there for sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's that white, old white guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know nothing. He's not old.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait wait Ron Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean Ron Ron was around in the early

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<v Speaker 5>seventies and and he was, you know, still performing in

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<v Speaker 5>the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the casting couch guy, right, No, he's the guy

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<v Speaker 3>that's in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, I'm just thinking of someone with a

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<v Speaker 1>gun in my head? Was like name five mail for right?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was, I would say Lexington Still, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>he's definitely you three more. You know, I'm a you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a mentor to me with Shawn Michaels. Okay, you know

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<v Speaker 5>who that is. He's he was around in the late eighties,

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<v Speaker 5>early nineties. But he still kind of performs so almost Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>forty years later, you're still going, yeah, yeah, Sewan Sean's

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<v Speaker 5>a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a legend. You know porn. You know Sean Sewn, Michaels,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter North was, Oh, I know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean he was, you know, another guy ran

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<v Speaker 5>the eighties, I mean eighties, nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean now you know, now you got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys Maxwell, Isaiah Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't he win?

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<v Speaker 2>He won? Yeah? Yeah, And you know, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Jason Love earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he's the guy that's really ah been able

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<v Speaker 5>to take social media and shape it. Yeah, before a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of adult stars couldn't do that, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they weren't. It wasn't mainstream. I think I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's just you know, now, with podcasts and the

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<v Speaker 5>way that social media works, things come in little snippetsy.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch you know, I watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>You wait, you watch porn?

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<v Speaker 2>I like? I like I like watching. If I come

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<v Speaker 2>across it, yeah, I watch, you like.

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<v Speaker 5>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you watch your own films?

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<v Speaker 5>Every once in a long blue moon, if I come

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<v Speaker 5>across some people send me ship all the time, So

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<v Speaker 5>I had to like stop, I had to take my tag.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you couldn't tag me and ship because people

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 2>would tag me like crazy and like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need a break.

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<v Speaker 3>So what kind of who are your favorite porn stars

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<v Speaker 3>that are kind of new like today?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like, I love Kazumi because I've I've

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<v Speaker 2>known her before.

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.479
<v Speaker 1>She you know, she is such a sweetie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just she's good people.

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 3>She gives me that haavana and she's very girl.

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<v Speaker 5>Honest, she's been you know, she's another one too social

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 5>media and just kind of like you know, she'd showed

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 5>when she went surgeries. You know, she when she had

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 5>good times and she's bad times, she includes the fans

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 5>and her ship.

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I love about her. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she genuinely is excited and loves sex and loves what

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<v Speaker 1>she does. I think for even growing up right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you as well, your family finding

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<v Speaker 1>out Back in the nineties early two thousands, sex work,

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:20.199
<v Speaker 1>stripping doing doing any type of sex work was shunned.

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It was looked down upon, or people assumed that women

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<v Speaker 1>were doing it because of trauma or because something happened

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<v Speaker 1>to or this was the last resort I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was thinking the office, I was really hearing if you

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<v Speaker 3>was a man, because that yeah, as a man, what

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 3>was that like for you and getting in and how

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:35.680
<v Speaker 3>your family viewed it?

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm? My family? You know, my family they don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what are they like? Are they like churchy? Are

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<v Speaker 3>they Caribbean?

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 5>My mom is probably real churchy? But my mom was

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, I hate me saying this, but my mom

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<v Speaker 5>was a woman like who seemed to be very sexual,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, like you know, yeah, because

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 5>I came across these polaroids of her and she was

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 5>in lingerie or whatever, and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like figuring out, parents are humans, right? I know, clearly

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you had to have sex for me to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't even want to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like okay, all right, so yeah, you know,

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 5>and so that's where I get it from, you know

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 5>what I mean, like wholereditary.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of you know for me, you know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was always kind of sexual.

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 5>I was always attracting sexual energy when I was even

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 5>when I was younger. So I was just I don't know,

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 5>when I discovered the adult business, I kind of just

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 5>went off that was like this is in ninety three.

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>You got me. It was like there wasn't you couldn't

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>tell your friends, hey, you see this new video. It

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like that. It was something very personal, you know

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And it was for me. It was

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 2>more like I wanted to explore that. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see what that was about.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the first piece? Like was it stripping? Was

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<v Speaker 3>it pictures?

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<v Speaker 2>M the first It was two things. One I was

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<v Speaker 2>dancing to come and talk to me the remix.

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>And talk to me. I really wanted. I liked, you

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>really want to know you man?

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 5>You danced that I danced in a private setting or

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 5>it was like we were at it was a contest

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 5>and we went to this club. Me and my homeway

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 5>went to this club and it was like a contest

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 5>of like a talent contest. And I love that song

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 5>and I used to always want to dance to that,

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 5>so I would over and I just started dancing to

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<v Speaker 5>it on stage and all the girls can run into

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<v Speaker 5>the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I won. So my voice were like you

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<v Speaker 1>do you know? They were all like you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>they swarm me oufterwards and the girls and they were

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like cooling, do that again, did you always have this build?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean yeah, I mean I've been I like the gym,

0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 5>I like going, you know, since high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm older. Now you will have a foreign star. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. I do want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>What you what is it?

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 5>Is it?

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>What is your life like?

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 4>How do you look so good? Thank you black don't cracker,

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 4>that's yes, you're right. At least so many stars i've

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 4>been seeing when you're right, You're right.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>What is the lotion?

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 3>But what is your life like?

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh? You know, it's good, it's good. You know, my

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 5>daughters are grown and it kind of kind of advise

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 5>them on you know, business things because they're both college educated.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm taking care of my niece right now, she's fourteen,

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 5>and that's like challenging, I'm sure, because you know, she's

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 5>the whole different generation. I'm working on different projects with

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 5>different people with Snoop, you know, me and T. I'm

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 5>kicking around some stuff, T Pain I work with, you know,

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm just friends in different How do you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, from like we see right now a lot of

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>athletes going from sports to now commentating podcasts, movies, film.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.959
<v Speaker 1>What does how hard was that for you leaving adult

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>film industry and now getting into other industries, and do

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you feel like also people respect you coming from sex work.

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Because we had this conversation where and it was on

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the podcast and maybe it's different for women, but I

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>think Lisa and probably we both talked about how once

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you're in that space, it would probably be hard for people,

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>especially for women to be respected after that.

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Right, And don't be black, no, I know, and don't

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 3>be a black woman that went into it.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>So how do you walk into those spaces where you know,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>everyone done senior dick, Buddha, cheek slapping, hya haya eat coaching,

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.479
<v Speaker 1>How do you demand respect leaving that industry and inserting

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>yourself into others?

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the big thing for me is I give it,

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>give respect, you know iat.

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, but you give respect and you receive it.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>So I love think for me because I'm born and

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 5>raised here in l A and I've been you know,

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 5>and all kinds of hoods with all kinds of brothers

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 5>and sisters, partying and talking business and helping cats out,

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 5>looking out for motherfuckers. So I think just naturally by

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 5>nature that I just wanted to show, you know, I

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 5>treat people how I want to be treated.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it has to do with the level

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 4>to which you did porn, because because you did it

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 4>at its highest level, which for example, for Mandy and

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 4>I I feel like the first two years, maybe the

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 4>three years of the show, we were just holding on

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 4>a podcast, and then once they realized how much money

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 4>will make it and we started other businesses and TV,

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 4>they were like, then there came respect. I've inspired.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 5>You bet, just talking to people everybody fucking I mean,

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 5>that's how we got here, you know, And that's what

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 5>we do while were here, you know what I mean.

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 5>And so you know, you build a family that way.

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 5>And sexuality is a part of who we are. It's

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 5>just a part of our nature. It's the same way

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 5>like we like different types of food and our clothing

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 5>and our friends. We like our sex a certain way,

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 5>you know. We know we like you know, physically, and

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 5>what we like mentally, and we want to find tune that.

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 5>And you're always constantly exploring that, you know what I mean.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 5>I think for me, I just kind of did it publicly,

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, And.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 4>I did it openly, you know in this era of

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 4>today's point, now you see it. How come you had

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 4>it jump back in?

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that's yeah, I mean coming back around

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I think goes.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 5>My family was like my family was like a big

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 5>part of like it was kind of like because I

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 5>was because at one point I just did you know,

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 5>there wasn't all that thing.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that attend it was it was more private.

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>You were going out to eat waffles. And the women

0:28:58.760 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>was like that's the smarts.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean men and you know they kind of

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 5>they went with it, you know, like it Yeah, they

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 5>probably they probably.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>They probably preferred not to have all that.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm way more low key, you know what

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't want it, you know, I'd like to just

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 5>roll in, handle ship, see people, see what's up, and

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 5>then bounce.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>So even though you see the landscape of ownership and

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the money that is now being able to be made,

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the respect for your family is what's keeping you not

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>getting back into.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 2>The industry right now, if you know, the one thing

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>is I do own a lot of content, I own them,

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>but you.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 5>Own a lot of ye that.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 3>On the table literally, Wait, so how were you able

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 3>to how were you able to do that?

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Because even when We talked to a lot of the

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>porn legends who are working in the nineties and early

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>two thousands. You got your day rate, but there was

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>like no equity. You were a part of owning anything.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>These companies owned a lot of that work. How are

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you able to audi? Because I'd always do I would

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>shoot for people, then I would shoot for myself. Oh directing, yeah, yeah,

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and I owned it and I paid for it, so

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And so I just shoot

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>mainstream stuff amateur ship just you know, first time.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 3>But what did that?

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>What did that? What did that?

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Then?

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Distribution and ROI look like it was?

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 5>It was? And then nobody teaches these things when I

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, like producer packets and all that.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know, they would give me budgets

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 5>and I would shoot these movies.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know what a movie budget for pornb like

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>yeah it right now, ship, I don't know, no, right now,

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's cheap.

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 5>But back then, yeah, back then you can spind up.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 5>You know, maybe it's still kind of cheap. But twenty

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 5>twenty five thousand, you know, but what way? Way?

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Now I need a lot I want to talk about it.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So I met with Johnny Darko, I have a TV

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>show where I cover how people make.

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Money from sex.

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I saw that and yeah you see yeah sex cells,

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>which I I want to thank you.

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 4>And they fucking told me that these girls, no matter

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 4>how big they are today, are not making more than

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty five hundred dollars. Johnny Darko was paying these dudes

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 4>in a gang or blowbank three fifty five hundred six hundred.

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>So then where's the budget if you're saying it's twenty

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that because because the talent is not getting a lot

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of that money. No, No, I mean you.

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>And what I'm saying is you probably would spend it

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>on location.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 5>Okay, you spend on your crew, your wardrobe, post production,

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 5>post production wardrobe, wardrobe is crazy.

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they cut all that shit out.

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Is extensive.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Logerai Bro, you could get this.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I paid for Lemna and I we did an Amazon

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>thing all show me how you make pork that He's right,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you could get cheap lingerie Bro. If

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I got a budget, we going the Amazon Prime route

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>or to she and route.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 5>We're just gonna wait two weeks to get it. At

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 5>one point, man, motherfuckers were making like like epic movies.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 5>Like they were like spind in a week on production.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Hair, which I always said, don't be looking good?

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>What do think? That is twenty five k?

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 4>And basically, so you're leading it as the director. Have

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 4>you ever directed porn that you were in?

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so what are you doing? Are you just like yo,

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 4>like gets the turn? But while you're fucking do you

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 4>direct or do you start talking something?

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Well? You try to hire your crew.

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, I hear a lot of mainstream directors be like,

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 5>I want to thank my crew because your crew is key.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 5>Your crew is going to get the shots, they're going

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 5>to make sure the lighting is right, They're going to

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 5>take a lot of the work, you know, so you

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 5>don't have to focus on that. And as a performer,

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 5>you want to just focus on performing. So you kind

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 5>of want to have it all kind of mapped out

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 5>what you're going to do. You want your crew like

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 5>kind of locked in on what you know, you want

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 5>to have that. You want to communicate. They want to

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 5>know what's going to happen, and then you just want

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 5>to focus on making it happen.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>So, so with a twenty five thousand dollars budget for

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a scene, how much would you make on that.

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean that for like twenty five is like you're

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 5>shooting like five or six scenes. You got about five

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 5>or six for a movie. Okay, Okay, I mean then

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 5>that's that was back in late nineties, early two thousands.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 5>People were doing that.

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And how was porn making money then from selling the DVD?

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>H yeah, DVD broadcast rights licensing agreements?

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that like when they're we're in the hotel press okay.

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 5>Streaming overseas. Wow, you know it's a global market. Uh,

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 5>they'll they'll do transcribed, you know, they'll dub it.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>They dubbed porn they could yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no,

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>no they do. Wait, I've heard bones be thrown in,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but I'm thinking like, oh yeah, they definitely be throwing

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no one's about this moving. This is

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>this is all I hate. This is from another sea.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I hate it.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I hate dubble. How do you mean that?

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, are you a part of that part where

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>you be like low quiet here at the moane?

0:33:58.720 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>How you done that before?

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Like have you ever voiceover moons?

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to think, you know, because I hated it,

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 5>So I want to always hire a netror when I

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.959
<v Speaker 5>just sit in there and fix that, you know, wipe

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 5>that out.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>But now I don't think I never did eighty.

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 3>R from eighty rs.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 4>When they go back in and basically let's just say

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 4>they want to change words in a movie.

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm really trying to think. It's like he was in

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>your ass and you didn't say it.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Go back to show.

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 5>You need to say, yeah, that's that's that's true, and

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 5>be like, hey, I need you to say, okay, put

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 5>it in my ass.

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>All right. She's like, put in my ass? All right?

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>What is now? You got it? Now?

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>You gotta things to say?

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.919
<v Speaker 3>Porn, like, what is common porn? Dirty talk?

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Give me?

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 3>I feel like when we make a joke about it, it's.

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Give me that, you know.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 5>I was thinking, man, God, I gotta be like because

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 5>they'd be like, oh my god, oh my god, be like,

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, guys will like stop using my name.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you hate what a woman says? Oh my god. Yeah,

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the girls. I mean, if that's something spiritual, I mean,

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that's something.

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Listen, be spiritual. If you making me see some ship,

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I think so too.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>But oh my god, ship when we did sex in France,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 4>they I said what do you think girls say? American

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 4>girls say oh my god, DC, oh my god, and

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.439
<v Speaker 4>that must be some ship we do. So, oh my god,

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 4>what's another way you hate it?

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>When they said that? When the girl she said, and

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>she's like, every voice get hired and ship, I'm like,

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>where we going? That sound like? Will you? Will you

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>be saying how you sound? I imagine you say, fuck,

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that's I imagine you being like that. I imagine look

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>see you just literally said that's that's you.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>That's you.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Has there ever been anything said that turned you off?

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And and also because you were doing inter racial we

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>just had this conversation with with that turner. But have

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>you been called the N word?

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean there was one time a girl you know,

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 5>that was their whole deal. She would call you that

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 5>a white woman. Yeah, wait, there was a deal for it,

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 5>so you wouldn't she she.

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, I showed up thinking she can't go call

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 2>me that? So you know what? And then the director

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>was pissed because I.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Was like, you know, she ain't gonna do that ship

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>with me telling you that right now?

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he thought I was on some arrogant ship.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, bro, was the director white?

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>And whatever. I mean, it is what it was.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, nah.

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like, so you threw the boundary at race play,

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but is there any other thing? I mean, we can do.

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 2>We can do the race play thing, but you ain't

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>gotta call me yeah, because I.

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Think race play if it's in a different dynamic, because

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 4>we're already listening to race play with big black hops, let's.

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Be yeah one hundred. I like, give me that little

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>white plassy white.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>That little white plissic crazy because it's paint.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Here to take this OA has that made you laugh

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 3>when someone was trying to do dirty So.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Probably I always talking about this thing I said to

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 4>a man that made him die laughing and I hate it.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>But I was coming and I said, oh my god,

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>please keep sucking to come out of me. He was

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>laughing so hard, and I was like, what did I

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 1>say to Are you not fucking to come out?

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I'm just some curious in role

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 4>play because you gotta really be fast on your toes.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll be sucking up words. I've literally said my

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>dick before.

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's what I was gonna say, Like usually

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 5>you know you and if you if I'm we fucking

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 5>just gonna come to you.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna come up with some sh you just gonna

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>stay so shit and be like no, did I say

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>He'll be like huh my plussy, my plussy, That's what

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I meant.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I've been fucking absolutely said the wrong thing.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, oh, oh, you know what I do want

0:37:57.920 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 4>to ask hery did you ever have because we talked

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 4>about rules, Mandy was talking about rules. What were your

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 4>nose for scenes you wouldn't do, whether it be ain'tal play,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 4>pegging maybe like not solo scenes.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you just squided your face when she said that

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>pegan and I don't know, was there stuff that you like?

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I wasn't none of those things.

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 4>But like, were there things that they maybe wanted you

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>to do that you were like on the same type

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 4>maybe DVP whatever.

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, you've eighteen probably I probably would

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 5>be like yeah, I mean I think I was also,

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 5>like I said, once you fucking once she dicks out,

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 5>she's going doing anything.

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>You get more open to doing ship because you just

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 2>want to do.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Ship, especially if it's good.

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 2>It's good ship. You like, hey, baby, yeah you can

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you can do that.

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>You can do what you want to do, do whatever

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to be.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 3>So then so then because you ahead, yeah, what were

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 3>your nose?

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 5>I mean I wasn't. I wasn't into it. I wasn't

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 5>in the pagan I mean, the DPS would kind of

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 5>just happen, you know what I mean, You'd be like,

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 5>I want to fuck it too, so so you know,

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 5>she'd be like, come on fucking. So some things just

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 5>kind of ended up in that situation. But I mean specifically,

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 5>I just wanted.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>To be comfortable.

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Were there scenes they asked you to do that you

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 4>said no too? Or maybe as the years went on,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 4>did the price get higher for gay porn for you?

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Or like had they ever been like, please please, mister markets,

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 4>we do this.

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 5>I think I pretty much said I'm straight and even

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 5>and I think maybe earlier on they thought would you

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 5>and I was like nah, and it wasn't ever you know,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 5>brought up again, So I didn't have it wasn't put

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:44.879
<v Speaker 5>in that position, you know what I mean.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I love that you weren't.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Pressing yeah me, because I feel like today, with fluidity

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 4>and somebody.

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>To celebrate, I think it's way different now it is.

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 5>I think there's you know there's a lot more bisexuality

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 5>and crossover, and you know there's way more now and

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 5>a lot more.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what about money outside of that? Like Jason told

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 4>us a crazy as story that, Oh my god. I

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 4>even told Mandy I wanted to cut it out, but

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I liked because it was incest. So for me, I

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 4>was just like dad paying you the fuck this kid

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 4>is disgusting.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 5>But and wife, Yes see when I like I said,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 5>I got out around twenty ten eleven, and then I

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 5>kept seeing other shit kind of going like I wasn't

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 5>in the cock holds. Oh ever, yeah I think I

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 5>did one.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what were you asked to do? Offset?

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was saying, What are you like?

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Offset? What have you been asked to doing? How much

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 1>money did they offer?

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>People are freak?

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>We know, God like, please fuck my wife? How was

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the freakiest request that you've gotten? And how much they

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>offered you?

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean there was They didn't pay me anything. But

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 5>I remember there was this woman. She was an Asian woman,

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 5>and I don't even know how I met her, but

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 5>I just remember me and her had our thing and

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 5>then she said I want you to meet my husband,

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, are you sure this is this?

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, I wasn't.

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 5>I had never met nobody's husband. I mean, fucking girls

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 5>wise whatever, I never met the husband. It was always

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 5>on some download ship. And so this was gonna be

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 5>the first time I met the dude. And I remember

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna go to the club and so uh so

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 5>we met in the parking lot and he was like, Hey,

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna ride with us to the club?

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Was nah? He was a white dude.

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 5>White dudes, okay, like sh and so so I remember

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 5>I got in the back seat and then she hopped

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 5>in the back seat with me.

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, what do you doing better get

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 2>in the front seat with your husband.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, like big black card?

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Did she did you?

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 3>Or she just sat back there.

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 5>When just got in the back seat, and then she

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 5>just was like it's cool. And I was like and

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 5>this was like me the you know, I'm early twenties,

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 5>so I'm.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, what the hell I'm like, but okay, so he

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>was driving the car.

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, he was driving the car and were driving

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 5>out the freeway and she just hooked it up like

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 5>she hooked.

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>It up, and it was just like, don't be modest

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>now we don't know what do you mean hooked it up?

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Could you please explain this scene?

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 5>And she just started just going down and be like

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 5>and and then I looked uphim, he's got the rearview

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 5>mirror like frame right, And I said I would have

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 5>done the same thing.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I would have.

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>So you did do some cuckold and ship you did, Yeah,

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 3>that's okay.

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know cuckhold now is like a whole

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>different thing.

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we could talk about this, so

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>we can cut it if you want.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 4>But I want to know about sex work money outside

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 4>of porn, because the girls were able to strip and

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 4>do they pit stops?

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>They did?

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 4>But to me, I could only see a man making money,

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 4>like wanting to get paid, like for sex with couples

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 4>or women, Like did you jump into that?

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>And like how was it?

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I was? I was bad at it?

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Clearly you just did. Why were you bad at read?

0:42:59.360 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I would go to like swinger parties, but I wouldn't

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>bring someone with me, you know what I mean?

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>And then they knew you and then you was just jumping.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 3>You just was slanging dick at the swinger party.

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, but even then I wouldn't.

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 5>I was still kind of, you know, kind of stand office,

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 5>like I wanted, you know, listen, if the dick ain't

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 5>in it, you know, if I'm not, if it's not

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 5>with it, why should I so into it?

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 5>Like, but if I'm not into it, if it ain't

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 5>gonna happen because I wanted to, I wanted to work.

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to.

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>You want to actually enjoy it.

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I want them to enjoy it.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's gonna be reciprocated if I'm enjoying it,

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 5>If she's enjoying it, you know, it's gonna we're gonna

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 5>have it's gonna be moments.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So for you outside of even of course directing doing poorn,

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>knowing that that was a job. Outside of that, you

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to make sex work outside of work, right.

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to have to. I didn't want to

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>be that locked to it. Like it was always like

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>enjoy you know what I mean?

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 5>And I would come across people that made it. They

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 5>were like, oh, you're you know you're so and so so, Yeah,

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 5>we expect you to want to do these things. And

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 5>I'd be like, nah, they don't. That doesn't necessarily mean

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 5>that I'm gonna do anything, you know.

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>What I mean?

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 4>How being that, I mean, you seem like an in elections,

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 4>even to mention the first five minutes you're a reader.

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 4>Has there been moments where you were tired of being

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 4>diminished down to your dick?

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Somebody call me a walking dick. How's kind of kind

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 2>of uh yeah, I think No.

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 5>It was afterwards, like I met, I did an interview

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 5>with them, and then afterwards I saw like a clip

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 5>where they were talking about me and they were like.

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's just a walking dick.

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 5>And I was just like wow, wow, I know, and

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 5>it kind of I felt like, Okay, maybe I didn't,

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, come across, but I think I can see

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 5>how like like I said, when you once, if I'm

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 5>in a sexual environment, then I'm gonna be sexual, you

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, I'm a I if it's if

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 5>we gotta, if it's what we're trying to be, then good,

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 5>let's be that, you know what I mean. And I

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 5>just but it wasn't like maybe it looked like I

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 5>switched it on switch it off. But there's always always

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 5>some kind of prep that goes into it. It's some

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 5>there's some kind of forethought, you know what I mean,

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 5>And there's going to be an afterthought, and I want

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 5>to and I don't want to be like bogged down and.

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I hate doing this.

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I was black men being diminished to their dick's side.

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, listen, when I came in the industry.

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 5>You know a girl that I worked with and this

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.240
<v Speaker 5>is you know, this was a tragic side of our industry,

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 5>and it's a sad side of our industry. But she

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 5>committed suicide like six months after I was in the industry,

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 5>and I had worked with her, and I said, what

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 5>could be so bad?

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? And I see how people

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>get treated in.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 5>Such a negative right, and you know, a negative way

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 5>that makes them feel less than and I was like,

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 5>fuck that, fuck that, because there was all these cats

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 5>who wanted to make.

0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>You feel like that.

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>So how did you maintain then being in this industry specifically,

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>how did you keep up with your mental health, especially

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>because you were in porn in an era where mental

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>health for black men was not again the topic, or

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like people weren't really going to therapy in

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the nineties like that. How did you maintain in your

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>sanity while working in this industry.

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 5>That's a good question. Uh well, I mean, you know,

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 5>obviously if if you know and you were paying attention.

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 5>I had a family, you know, and so that was

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 5>the flip.

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I wasn't.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't like wife and kids family.

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I just you know, I had, like,

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, something come home to.

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And that was that not common from any male points.

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know. It probably was, but it

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 5>wasn't as open maybe discussed, you know what I mean.

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, there wasn't this social media where you got

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 5>into people's homes and had discussions, you know what I mean.

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 5>And I definitely wasn't like when I realized when I

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 5>first started sharing it was when I did have my daughter,

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, man, I got a kid, you know,

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 5>but I'm still making movies, you know what. I'm making

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 5>money to take care of this kid, you know what

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean. So I think for me, it was just

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 5>being honest, just being it was a reality that I

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 5>was dealing with. But it also it like kind of

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 5>he lit a fire my ass to be around to

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 5>know who I am, you know what I mean, to

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 5>be rooted in what really matters. I knew how the

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 5>point industry was like kind of someone said, they said

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 5>this about the cruise, like we're transient, like we came

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 5>and we went. And so the industry does that brings

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 5>you in, kind of kicks you out. You know, the

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 5>male performers of the year maybe one year and then

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 5>he's not. The female performers even more so, right, you

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, girls really have to carve out

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 5>a niche and you know, branding. I remember, you know,

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 5>my brandness, my brand net. You know, I remember when

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 5>all that became a discussion, what was the normal lifespan?

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been you said you did it from

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>ninety four all the way up to twenty ten. But

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for the average blackmail performer, what really was the lifespan

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.399
<v Speaker 1>of being a star in porn during your era?

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, men last a lot longer because it's not

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 5>the many men that's right to hear that, Yeah, that's

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 5>pretty common, but they don't make as much. They don't,

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 5>but maybe over time they can't. Okay, women have a

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 5>two to three year you know, shelf life in our

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 5>industry at that during my era. But then it's also

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:29.800
<v Speaker 5>like there's an emotional and physical.

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 3>That comes with this wan to date outside of porn.

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you know, just trying to Now you're

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 5>more famous, you're recognizable, you know what I mean.

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you build a brand, you kind of

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 2>locked into that. You know.

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 5>I admire someone like Lisa An who's able to like

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:49.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, she's but she's also tapped into what she

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 5>really loves, which is sports. Yeah, you know what I mean,

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.479
<v Speaker 5>killing it and so you know she and she also

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 5>kind of she built up a name with when she

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 5>was doing that Sarah Sarah Palin thing.

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 3>What black women do you think are adjacent to Lisa?

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Because T. S.

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 4>Madison is the only yes person I could think that's

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 4>done porn woman that's done porn, and she's a trans

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 4>woman that's done porn and crossed over.

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like, I was gonna mention it earlier.

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I like Missy Stone. Ah, she's wow crazy you know.

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Is Missy Stone acting?

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 2>She's acting? Yes, she actually did theater.

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Good people brought up when I asked them questions for you,

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 4>they brought up Missy Stone. So it's that's funny you

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 4>brought her name up. There is one question I'm sure

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 4>you're tired of answering. But you are the reason that

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 4>we noticed superhead.

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 3>It's up crazy.

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, that was that video?

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 2>That was I just came up a new word too. People.

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it's word, but they were like superhand.

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like underdome.

0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I liked it actually to me, it was a great evolution,

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a great book. Yeah, he rates to.

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 5>Get your coins, but not for us. Hell, she's a

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 5>great writer, an incredible writer. And she you know, you know,

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I was reading what you know, she knows her audience,

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. Uh, she's you know, she's

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 5>she's well like she's been around, she's you know.

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So what was that like?

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 3>How did first of all as her just being an

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:28.840
<v Speaker 3>industry secret, finally doing it on camera?

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>How was it?

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 2>You?

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 4>Was it?

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 3>No other option? It was like mister Marcus, but not

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 3>only that. How was that set up?

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:42.800
<v Speaker 5>Shout out to Suaveave triple X because he did a

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 5>scene with her in New York and then I was

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:50.280
<v Speaker 5>shooting mister Marcus neighborhood which was all new Black girls.

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember that.

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, mister Marx neighborhood was all new Black girls that

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 5>do antal, which we found out that was hard to

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 5>do you must.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 3>Have made You said that was hard to do. It

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 3>was hard to his biggest fun.

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>To be going in a long new booty. Yes, you

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>need to test first. It was fun when it was fun,

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 1>but it was like bad when it was bad.

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 5>It was like it was no in between. It was

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 5>like he was either into it or you wasn't. And

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 5>the girls that we were trying to find at the

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 5>time that wasn't. That was like there wasn't a large

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 5>pool of girls that were doing any So, so when

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Korean came around, it was really just about getting new

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 5>girls and and and Sa was like, yeah, you got

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 5>this girl. She brand new, she gives crazy head and

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna love it. I was like ship center by

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 5>way and so uh and then we talked and we clicked.

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 5>You know when she came in. She wasn't like an amateur,

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 5>which I.

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Was expecting, you mean amateurs in style, like in just

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>in terms of like how do I do it? You know,

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>what do I do with this?

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 4>She was like, when I think of the current suffic

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 4>I think of this, Oh yeah, literally basket weed technique.

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Who do you think is some of the best in

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 4>the game are giving you head that you can remember

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 4>most memorable.

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's I don't know.

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 5>The question doesn't make really because you know it's it's

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 5>it's it's very it's a selfish thing.

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like a real you know, it's like it's for me.

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I got my dick.

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Almost made it challenging for you to even perform where

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 4>you came too fast.

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean good head. I put it like this. Girls

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.839
<v Speaker 2>that are into giving head, who want to give good

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>head usually give.

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Goodness every time.

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>One of one of our segments is a warder. Because

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 1>we just spoke about oral and anal, could you give

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a tip for the women on what you really enjoy

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>in receiving head, And then can you give a tip

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.240
<v Speaker 1>to the men who were well and down like yourself,

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>an anal tip on actually getting it in and enjoying it.

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can do that.

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he said, I could give you a sex tip.

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that.

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 3>So let's start with oral than anal.

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh Oral, I think you know, I like a girl

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 5>that goes deep on it. But you know, if you

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 5>got a gag, reflect maybe you should turn the angle.

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And how you're doing it.

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh you turn your mouth?

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 5>You mean yeah, turn your mouth and maybe have him

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 5>lay in a certain certain way. Little liquor wouldn't hurt.

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 5>Just relax, you know, something helps you Just relax and

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 5>get into it. And if and then and then kind

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 5>of like if the dude, you know, because girls can

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 5>either what I learned, girls can either like start to

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 5>do it and get more and more comfortable as she's

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 5>doing it, and we'll get more into it. Don't rush it,

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 5>don't start forcing your you know, onto it, you know

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 5>what I mean? Kind of yeah, just you know, be patient,

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 5>let her kind of find her way around it, Let

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 5>her do what she wants to do.

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, you fine yo around like you know, you

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>might have to go around the corner. You know your

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 1>should be okay, and you said there's directions around here. Okay,

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>this is not gonna be easy for you. I'm gonna

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 1>give you some time to figure it out. It's like

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 1>when you go to a big house for a real

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:26.240
<v Speaker 1>estate agent. Just let me know what you say, take.

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Your time, take your time. I'll be right here. Okay.

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 3>And then for anal uh, because you said someone were

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 3>really bad or you did get it.

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, obviously douche and clean, so that

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 5>you're not really focused on that because they weren't comfortable enough.

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 3>They were nervous making a mask.

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 5>So, you know, make sure you feel clean so that

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 5>you can relax and enjoy it. Another if you got

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.239
<v Speaker 5>to use loop. Everybody's different. You know, you can use

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 5>a oil base or water based.

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's different. But your dick is huge? Did you not

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.280
<v Speaker 4>in your eighteen hundred films, you mainly need to use lube?

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean use it most of the time, right, did

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 4>You're not about tell me? Ain't nobody most of the time.

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 4>Most of the time you use lub.

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes a girl would like spit, you know what I mean.

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 5>She would spin on her ship, or she'd already have

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 5>it lub. She liked a certain type of loop, you

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, so she would already be kind

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 5>of prepped. She would use most you know, I would

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 5>suggest using like a dido or something ahead of time.

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I suggest you open yourself up before you you know

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 4>The biggest dick I ever had, he used to try

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 4>to say this to me, and I didn't realize it

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 4>was because he knew how big he was. I was

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 4>maybe early twenties in New York, and he would say,

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 4>I want you to masturbate before I get there, Like,

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 4>get yourself excited for me just now. When you say that,

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, he needed me to get he needed.

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Your ass opening.

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, beat it?

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you to all the anals, with the

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 1>anal girls and the newbies, you said that a lot

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.359
<v Speaker 1>of them got in their head about making a mess.

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you, as a man who's had

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 3>antal sex, does.

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>A mess bother you? Huh? I've had.

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Is a little messy, and that's to be expected, you know.

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 5>Don't don't make a big deal out of it, you

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, clean it up and yeah, I

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 5>be covering the ship.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Take this ship, I mean someone that took it as

0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 4>a serious profession, I guess for sure.

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 1>What about injuries? You ever hurt somebody till the years?

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean you accidentally, if you're rushing it, if the

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 5>girl's not relaxed, not properly loved up. I was gonna say,

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 5>a good position to do is like a spoon girl

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 5>laying on her side, you know what I mean. It

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 5>kind of takes the takes the weight and the pressure

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 5>off off the you know, makes a little easier to

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 5>get in and it doesn't you're not You're not twisting

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 5>in a weird way where your ass is you know

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna hit, gonna poke her in the wrong way.

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 5>At least she's relaxed, she's on her side, and it's

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot easier to come in from behind.

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 3>In your normal dating life, had you had girls feel

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 3>really insecure.

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's and it's like a lot of fun to

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 2>try to make them, you know, feel secure.

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 3>How did you do that?

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, just kind of like touch them in places

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 2>they want to be touched, like where the.

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Place he was. Maybe you ever had a nigga your elbow? Listen,

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, did you touch my elbow? Okay?

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 3>What I love that you said it was fun to

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>get them to be secure.

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>What type of affirmations when a woman has been insecure

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>with you that you do outside of touching them? What

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 1>things would you say to make them more comfortable and

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 1>feel more secure with you?

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean I laughed a lot, so I'm always you know,

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 5>maybe with cracks, some jokes, you know, just to take

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 5>away any kind of tension.

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You're being funny with a big dick is crazy.

0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Because big dicks just be there because they feel like

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 3>they ain't got to do nothing else. No, you are

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 3>a little too smart for your dick.

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 4>You know you read books make just last I'm looking

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:11.720
<v Speaker 4>for you want to pick out the flaw, and I

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 4>think we do that just as humans. You see someone attractive,

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 4>nice smile, You're like, I's wrong with you?

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 3>You got six sols? What do you think your biggest

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 3>flaw in? Sexiest?

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Sensitive? Super sensitive?

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 5>Like i'd have to I really got to work backwards,

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, like not to be you know, like I

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:35.479
<v Speaker 5>think they got a thing called edging.

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, if you jack.

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Called edges well, I mean they calling it edge it,

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 5>but it's you know, it's been around since we you know,

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 5>how to jack our dicks off. But you know it's

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 5>much more in the you know, in the in the conversation. Now,

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 5>edging is getting yourself right there but not coming. I

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:53.920
<v Speaker 5>mean you could do that, you can practice that, but

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 5>I think sometimes way sensitivity just you know, wanted to come.

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I can come multiple times. So if the girl's cool

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 2>with that, then we can you.

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Can come and play it back in. I love it. Wow,

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>me too, love it. That's that is the best I'll

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>be telling me, because if you ain't got more than

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>one round on you. We're not fucking that is no.

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean like right, no, like not immediately immediately. No time,

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>ain't no guaranteed. No no, oh no no no, that

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 1>ain't no guarantees. I always say, you have to go

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 1>as many rounds as I can get you up right right,

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and baby, I'm gonna get you back up.

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I see that.

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>They said you can do what I do.

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, you don't actually have a question for

0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 4>you being at You're fifty three and you had been

0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 4>doing poor in this this many years. So I have

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 4>gotten in the dumbest arguments with my boyfriend because he

0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 4>likes to hold his semen.

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>He don't like to come multiple times a week, right,

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and so literally I wasn't crying, but I.

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 4>Was like, I just understand why he's like, yo, you know,

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 4>many women would love this, but he's like really instead,

0:59:58.600 --> 0:59:59.480
<v Speaker 4>he a little hole tepee.

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Have you found that that strengthened your stamina?

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Not coming good?

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 2>But you're right, some girls be like, hey tomorrow, oh,

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to see the coming.

1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to see that.

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 4>It makes me so frustrated. Yeah, I want to see,

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 4>like as someone i'm by a coastal. I travel so much,

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like you telling you're not gonna do this before.

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that's my thing. I make a mess on me.

1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to see it, I want to feel it.

1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I want you to fingerpaint it all. That's his biggest

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I want you to feed.

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:24.320
<v Speaker 2>It to me.

1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I like now, and I used to like, let me

1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:30.120
<v Speaker 1>get it's it's not me right, He's just doing this. No,

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he's doing this because he wants to stamina last for you,

1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 1>because he loved you.

1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Girl, That's what he were saying.

1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:38.400
<v Speaker 2>He's working on You're working on it.

1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:39.840
<v Speaker 3>So can I ask you?

1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 5>Then?

1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:44.560
<v Speaker 1>At fifty three, my ex was also up up there

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:50.120
<v Speaker 1>over the hill. Can I ask how your how your

1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 1>sex stamina has changed over time? You starting in your twenties.

1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>People assume that when you're younger you have this stamina

1:00:58.040 --> 1:00:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and this sex thing.

1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 5>It's weird because I I feel like I'm still like

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm still you know, natural, Like thank god I never

1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:08.840
<v Speaker 5>went that direction because it's still I still get aroused,

1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:11.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, girl turns me on. We're gonna have great sex,

1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:13.320
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. If I'm not into it,

1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.160
<v Speaker 5>it's frustrating because I want to be into it. But

1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:18.880
<v Speaker 5>if I can't, if I can't click, then it's just

1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:23.480
<v Speaker 5>like you know, so I say so much psychology.

1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Luckily it's still.

1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:26.120
<v Speaker 1>You're you're in your head then a lot because well

1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>when I say it too sex where it is very physical.

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Here we go with the goddamn sign. It's always a

1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:36.600
<v Speaker 1>horror we in la. Everybody done brought up goddamn sign.

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:40.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I've got quick ones for you. Just got to

1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 4>know this before we get out of here. New pussy

1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:44.760
<v Speaker 4>or in love pussy.

1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:54.680
<v Speaker 5>Everybody likes pussy, I mean, but when you're in love

1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.920
<v Speaker 5>if it's yeah, I mean yeah, and we can go

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:01.200
<v Speaker 5>that way if we get there.

1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it sounds like new pussy, is it

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:04.800
<v Speaker 1>sounds like?

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:09.320
<v Speaker 5>But but I've been I've had the love pussy, which

1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:12.640
<v Speaker 5>was bomb, which was bomb, which was really bomb, and

1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:13.720
<v Speaker 5>actually it's still bomb.

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's I know, that's right, that's not only but

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:20.000
<v Speaker 4>I still only fans are porn hug But is it

1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:21.640
<v Speaker 4>only fans porn hug.

1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:25.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, porn hub Never really I've never been embraced

1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:28.160
<v Speaker 5>by porn up. Somebody asked me the same thing, like.

1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:31.080
<v Speaker 1>They said, welcome, they said, right, They're like I can't.

1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:33.439
<v Speaker 2>Find your porn, I said, I know, they never that's true.

1:02:33.520 --> 1:02:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't.

1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:37.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, wait, why I don't you know, I don't know.

1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:40.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it was something personal, something, you know,

1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:41.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was typing in something wrong, so then

1:02:44.080 --> 1:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was okay. Really, I was trying to

1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like look up some titles from your movies and.

1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:51.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, and I love this industry. I've been through

1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:54.200
<v Speaker 2>hailing back for this industry.

1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know. I didn't bring it up.

1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:57.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been through so much I wanted to,

1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, Yeah, I've been in the bus, parked the bus,

1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:02.360
<v Speaker 2>you know all that.

1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Have you talked about that on an interview?

1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:07.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean I did when it when I went through

1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:09.000
<v Speaker 5>all that ship and I just got kind of tired

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<v Speaker 5>because it was like I was trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I was just being upfront about everything, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>dealing with people who didn't know the industry. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>like kind of I got to tell you about this,

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<v Speaker 5>I got to established, I got to tell you all

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<v Speaker 5>these all these aspects of it, and then why these

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<v Speaker 5>things happened in the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's changed because of this industry? You know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know and the change that came.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of all that ship right y'all can google it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean, uh so when porn hup came around,

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<v Speaker 5>I was really like I thought, I and also it

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<v Speaker 5>was like I was doing a lot of mom and pops.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we were like very family oriented industry, very

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<v Speaker 5>small niche and when I mean but I mean it

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<v Speaker 5>was like you knew you know the crew, you knew

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<v Speaker 5>your crew, you knew the produce. I would go into

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<v Speaker 5>the production studios or the companies and know the owners

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<v Speaker 5>and hang out. You know, it's just family when you

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<v Speaker 5>go to these award shows, like I still see a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of my friends, you know. I put a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of a lot of myself yeah on everything, and so

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<v Speaker 5>it is personal for me. And so when porn of

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<v Speaker 5>come around, I was like cool. But they were also

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<v Speaker 5>very corporate, you know, outsiders, tech guys, you know, internet dudes,

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<v Speaker 5>they were, you know, and I just maybe I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>embrace it even though I did, you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>My website has been you know, I've had it since

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<v Speaker 5>ninety seven, you know what I mean. I was doing

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<v Speaker 5>emails back then. I still do emails now, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Still what your newsletters say if I go onto your

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<v Speaker 1>website and put my email address in them.

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<v Speaker 5>What time used to send all kinds of shit out?

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<v Speaker 5>Used to send all kinds of ship out? And then

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<v Speaker 5>the company the web coming down was using. I used

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<v Speaker 5>to man, I spend so much money on my website.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like it's just drank down to drain ship that.

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<v Speaker 3>They websites are different now, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Waited, I was building shit from scratch. I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to I put you know, my my skin,

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<v Speaker 2>my blessing is in it. I seemen too.

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<v Speaker 5>So so so to ask you a question, I would

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<v Speaker 5>all I love only fans because I think that put

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<v Speaker 5>the power, gave the power to the in porn up

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<v Speaker 5>to the credit that's made it to that performers.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you know make Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I had thought you blocked yourself because when I was

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<v Speaker 4>typing it in and you weren't coming up, I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he don't want them.

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<v Speaker 1>To well and and there and there are porn stars

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<v Speaker 1>that have like sent removed my videos, take them down.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of things too with that website

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<v Speaker 1>pulling amateurs.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see that documentary about Pornhub and kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I watched every porn doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>It is actually my favorite. It's on Netflix right now.

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<v Speaker 3>With that white boy.

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<v Speaker 5>Now he's actually a big He's talking about Setti Rock

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<v Speaker 5>to Steffetti with him.

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<v Speaker 3>He was bringing girls from Craigslist to Miami. Oh oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and did you ever watch it? No, that's oh it's

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<v Speaker 3>so good.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was bringing these girls on craigslist, put him

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<v Speaker 1>in the house, and you were kind of just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the classes angels.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that as glad okay, okay, but kind of just

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<v Speaker 4>seeing like the landscape, like, hey, do you want to

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<v Speaker 4>make money?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want this flight?

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<v Speaker 4>And he talks about how much turnover there was, And

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<v Speaker 4>there was a girl in there who was twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, yeah, I'm milk porn now and it

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<v Speaker 4>taught me a lot about the landscape beforen girl literally

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<v Speaker 4>getting BV just you know how at risk you kind

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<v Speaker 4>of are just jumping on a plane to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, move something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's different now and the only fans that you

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<v Speaker 5>have a little more control over it than social media.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do it right.

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<v Speaker 5>More girls are coming in what I saw, more business minded,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, now they know you know how to market themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>They use the social media savvy and only fans of

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<v Speaker 5>savvy and how they help people market their ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they're making billions of dollars. You know, the

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<v Speaker 5>industry has always made billions of dollars in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>sexual health, sexual enjoyment, sexual uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Education, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, I've met a ton of people who came through

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<v Speaker 5>with good ideas, maybe poor execution or you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, And but the industry is always you know, gobbling

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<v Speaker 2>ship up, you know, and evolving and.

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<v Speaker 1>Evolving, getting better.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think, you know, having these these platforms like

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<v Speaker 5>this sex sales, you know, having you know, horrible decisions

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<v Speaker 5>and talking. I was listening, you know, I like watching

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<v Speaker 5>people get a chance to talk beyond because then before

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<v Speaker 5>I used to do a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love fucking little girls and you know, little

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<v Speaker 2>white pussies and.

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<v Speaker 1>My black dates gonna do this and that's literally.

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<v Speaker 5>Ciche and so like limiting and boxing and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and people coming with their stereotypes and projections and and

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<v Speaker 5>a lack of respect just yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean I missed Marcus Is. I wanted the respect I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted you to, you know, it was like respect and

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<v Speaker 5>because I would always you know, I'm a respectful motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just just you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just show me the respect, I'll show you the love.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so crazy because I kind of felt like during

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<v Speaker 4>this interview I was gonna want to have sex with

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<v Speaker 4>you the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I kind of want to hug you. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a friend. But then you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's that if I see, if I happen to

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<v Speaker 1>see you right out of here, how it can support

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<v Speaker 1>you today.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, you go through a bunch I've been

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<v Speaker 5>through a bunch of ship inside the industry and outside,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, you get your humble like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you get out in the world and you

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<v Speaker 5>see what's going on and it's cool. You just want

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<v Speaker 5>to be better at ship. You want to do things better.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's sometimes not about you. It's about who's listening,

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<v Speaker 5>who's who's watching, you know, who needs to looking for guidance.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you never know how you're gonna And I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen you over the years. It goes beyond the sex.

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<v Speaker 5>Second great great, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally inside and out? Yes, this is yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would love to know. You said you

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<v Speaker 3>dumped a lot into your website.

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<v Speaker 1>How can any of our listeners support the work you've done,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with own like that you own, How can they

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<v Speaker 1>purchase or watch it and make sure to put money

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<v Speaker 1>in your pockets? I mean, just stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I wouldn't. I don't want people to spend

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<v Speaker 5>money on ship that I'm not. Actually it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>if you go I'm only fans, you'll see some scenes

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<v Speaker 5>that I put up there that you know that never

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<v Speaker 5>been released.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's it right now, there we go the only fans.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't put it in the description of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if we can put only fans links,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll make sure to post it on Patreon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Find it right right right, right right right.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, there's there's projects I'm working on that

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<v Speaker 5>are more mainstream, so they can support that I want.

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<v Speaker 5>I want love it, yeah, and I'll be I'm always

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<v Speaker 5>supporting other formers, other productions of other people doing anything

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<v Speaker 5>in the adulta street that's positive.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said, I'll be coming to a theater near you.

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<v Speaker 1>episode of horrible Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy baka pant

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<v Speaker 1>Saton aka each Hey, y'all, I'm easy. What's really say?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the sex, I'm a rat, a boy. I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do something different. I have a bone

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<v Speaker 1>to pick. Okay, pick the bone. I was sucking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bones, but you can pick the bone.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a bone to pick with friends that don't

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<v Speaker 4>realize that you're not being a bad friend if you

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<v Speaker 4>set a boundary with trauma dumping.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, literally when you were like, y'all god with these angles.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got a text about how I haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>there for somebody and girl, I feel like we give

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<v Speaker 4>a certain amount of hours. Okay, why don't you get

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<v Speaker 4>a certain amount of hours with me? I'm finished?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you communicate that though, or do you or

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<v Speaker 1>do you just like remove yourself because you've been you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you've been dumped on enough? Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you respond to that when you reach that point? Like

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<v Speaker 1>basically I had dubbed a few of her calls.

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<v Speaker 4>We were in London, but when she called me today

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<v Speaker 4>and asked me if I'm back, I literally was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just kind of having a mood, like I really

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<v Speaker 4>can't hear. And she feels like I'm not being there

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<v Speaker 4>for her. And she basically feels like she wants to

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<v Speaker 4>keep her business private from other friends, and I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>one that she trusts with the info. But like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to talk to someone that's depressed. You be

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<v Speaker 4>on the brink of being depressed, right, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what to say. Do I send you a

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<v Speaker 4>therapy gift card?

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<v Speaker 5>Bro?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like you gotta have some discernment and think

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<v Speaker 4>about how much you are unloading on somebody. And I especially,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say be in it for her.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's specific to not her overall well being

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<v Speaker 1>or depression, but it's about a nick, like it's about

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<v Speaker 1>a man, Like if someone's going through it, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to pick me up.

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<v Speaker 4>That's different than someone that's like constantly trying to figure

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<v Speaker 4>out what they can do to, you know, not get

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<v Speaker 4>someone's attention.

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<v Speaker 3>But just like what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>What did I do wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not doing this blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like waste. You know she might be with a narcissist too.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't never gonna do nothing right for these nick

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<v Speaker 1>to me. To me, so I am very adamant actually

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<v Speaker 1>with drawing the boundary with my friends and their partners specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>because once you've said enough but you've stayed, baby girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to hear about it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So like to me, when it comes to the friendships

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<v Speaker 1>that I have, specifically, our friendships are able to exist

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<v Speaker 1>depending like beyond whoever you're dating or not. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>once you've come to me about how this nigga and

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<v Speaker 1>did you wrong? Did you wrong again? Did you wrong again?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I got to the point where I stopped talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my friends about That's why y'all motherfuckers heard it?

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<v Speaker 1>My friends wasn't hearing nothing about my ex memo, No, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even win back? How many times? So I

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<v Speaker 1>even stopped sharing with my friends because this was a

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<v Speaker 1>person that I knew, all right at this end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I keep going back.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody else to hear that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, and I get that, like nobody like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, right and we know it. But so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you as a friend, I love you dearly

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<v Speaker 1>to all my friends. This is this is literally how

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<v Speaker 1>I communicated to my friends. Friend al, I'll be like, friend, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I love you. Right, Let's talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>career the next trip. We going on the size genes

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<v Speaker 1>you can now fit into the tiktoks that we fucking

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<v Speaker 1>come across. Share all the memes you want a baby girl,

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<v Speaker 1>that nigga not not here, brut on my phone? That

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<v Speaker 1>about someone we know. Literally I have to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down with that. Let's go on Instagram. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>this bitch. What a way awful. I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have removed for so many of my friends, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when they choose to stay with a guy for eons.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's where, oh bit, you're not gonna leave him

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<v Speaker 1>until you ready. You're not gonna waste my my three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on that ship. Hold boys do.

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<v Speaker 3>On the contrary, what.

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<v Speaker 4>My homeboys when they're feeling hurt, they call me about

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<v Speaker 4>how wacko bitch was okay, are almost a little too much,

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<v Speaker 4>and it starts to become a little triggering because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>is a nigga talking about me like this is a

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<v Speaker 4>nigga talking about me like this one of you. But also, baby,

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<v Speaker 4>you were so into her last month.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's trash. Now she's I literally had. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my homeboys was like, oh my god, this bitch I

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<v Speaker 1>hallo sex worker energy now and I'm like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand she's a bottle girl. Wow. How fye.

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<v Speaker 3>Your first date was a vacation that you took her on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Standard do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>You said?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>A trick? I think that there is. You can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>dump on your friends too much about your relationship, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think as the friend instead of dubbing the calls

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<v Speaker 1>to where now she doesn't feel hurt or scenes