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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. It is Thursday, and it is the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show happening right now. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out with us, joining us all

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Speaker 1: across this land and for the digital listeners perhaps all

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Speaker 1: over the world. We have much to discuss with you today.

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Speaker 1: A study out. Clay just sent this to me. I

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Speaker 1: thought this was very interesting that Murk says there's a

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Speaker 1: COVID drug links. This is in Bloomberg, so this is

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Speaker 1: as of February first, twenty twenty three, just broke yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The headline is Murk COVID drug linked to new virus mutations.

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Speaker 1: According to study, so far the versions aren't more lethal

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Speaker 1: or immune evasive, but Murk is to study. Murk is

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Speaker 1: disputing this, saying the drug is very valuable. I do

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Speaker 1: think that as we go forward with all of this,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to COVID, we have to remember or

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Speaker 1: the people who up to this point have said shut up,

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Speaker 1: do what we tell you, We have the answers, and

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Speaker 1: the more vociferously they have made those claims, the more

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Speaker 1: catastrophically and blatantly wrong they have been. There's also, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting excited about this one too, a massive met

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Speaker 1: mega study, meta study, whatever you want to call it

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Speaker 1: of masking that has come out pure viewed Medical journal.

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Speaker 1: Guess what you find out from that one? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Masking does if not nothing ninety nine nothing

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Speaker 1: as in so small that statistically you can't prove it.

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Speaker 1: So if you can't prove something because it's so statistically insignificant,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say it doesn't work, right.

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Speaker 1: I think we can go to that level, and Clay,

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into both of these things in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, you know, there's that

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Speaker 1: old old line about hubris. I can't remember exactly where

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Speaker 1: it comes from, but hubris is I'm sorry, no, hutspa,

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Speaker 1: not Hubris. Hudspa is if you kill your parents and

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Speaker 1: then tell the judge that you deserve mercy because you're

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Speaker 1: an orphan. You know, there's this old line that that

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Speaker 1: is what hudspa is. Hunter Biden has hudspah. You may

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Speaker 1: use a different word because you were Clay, but you know,

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Speaker 1: because you like to say the things, I'm like, are

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Speaker 1: we allowed to say that? On the radio right, He's

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Speaker 1: got some something on him for sure. Hunter Biden now

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Speaker 1: has his lawyers saying that they that federal and state

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Speaker 1: prosecutors should open criminal investigations, criminal investigations into people who

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Speaker 1: shared the laptop and the information of this. He wants

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Speaker 1: investigations of Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bennon, John mack Isaac who

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Speaker 1: owns that computer repair shop, and Biden. Of course, in

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Speaker 1: this process, Hunter Biden is admitting beyond any not that

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Speaker 1: there was any doubt, but he's admitting the whole thing

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Speaker 1: was real. There was nothing fake, There was no Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 1: I gotta think, Clay, that this is because he's worried

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Speaker 1: at this stage about something. What do you what do

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Speaker 1: you think is why is Hunter all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Is this trying to run a smoke screen for Dad

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Speaker 1: with the documents? Like why is there pressure? Is he

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Speaker 1: on offense and he's in no position to do so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating. So the Washington Post broke this story, and

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Speaker 1: get a lot of attention. But the biggest takeaway is

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Speaker 1: and I think this is the big deal. Miranda Divine

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Speaker 1: New York Post and also wrote a book, Laptop from Hell,

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Speaker 1: all about Hunter's laptop, and she also did a deep

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Speaker 1: dive set with me in the podcast show with Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck. You can go listen to that. But but

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Speaker 1: the most important thing is here. To my knowledge, this

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Speaker 1: laptop is one hundred percent real. Because that's the most

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Speaker 1: important takeaway I would say here, because they had the

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Speaker 1: fifty one national security officials who came out and say

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Speaker 1: this has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Even in

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Speaker 1: his own book and in the interviews he did promoting

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Speaker 1: that book, Hunter Biden said basically he didn't know whether

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Speaker 1: so many drugs then that he wasn't aware. This is

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Speaker 1: crazy to me. And there this is a direct quote

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Speaker 1: from the letter. They're going after anyone who was involved

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Speaker 1: restrict did private information access in disseminating stolen property the

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Speaker 1: action I'm reading directly from the letter. The actions described

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Speaker 1: above more than merit a full investigation, and depending on

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Speaker 1: not a common thing for a private person in his

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Speaker 1: focused on John Paul Maciaac, who is the computer repair

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Speaker 1: he's made about this laptop. I have not seen. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll ask Miranda Divine next hour whether she

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Speaker 1: received any sort of letters from the Hunter Biden team

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Speaker 1: But buck the John Paul mc isaac people say pretty

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Speaker 1: clearly that after skimming the letters, this is his attorney.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I see is a privileged person hiring

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Speaker 1: and Giuliani says, look the laptop was abandoned property after

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Speaker 1: he didn't retrieve it, and says Giuliani's attorney does raising

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Speaker 1: concerns now after so many years indicates just how devastating

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Speaker 1: the text and videos from Hunter's laptop truly are. And

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Speaker 1: and so this is I gotta be honest with you, Buck,

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Speaker 1: It's rare that I'm surprised. This is to me a

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Speaker 1: crazy move by Hunter Biden. And we know Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: has passed been crazy. So I don't know who's driving

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Speaker 1: this trend of subterfuge, I would say, But the big

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Speaker 1: Now it's it's real, and it shouldn't have been distributed

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Speaker 1: and the distribution of my private property is criminal. Well

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty aggressive shift in his overall narrative. And

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Speaker 1: the question you're asking is I think a really good one, Buckets.

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Speaker 1: Why is he doing this, who is advising him on this,

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Speaker 1: that's where, even as a lawyer, I sit back and

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Speaker 1: I really can't understand what he is gaining in this process, Buck,

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Speaker 1: which makes me think maybe charges are coming. It just

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Speaker 1: doesn't add up to me at all. It obviously muddies

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Speaker 1: Which completely undercuts the argument that he made for years. Well,

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Speaker 1: If it's on a company laptop, it's the companies effectively, right,

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Speaker 1: they can make that claim now Hunter Biden left his laptop,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, after a certain period, that laptop

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Speaker 1: you can't throw that out. I'm gonna sue you. And

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Speaker 1: so I don't think that he's on has as any

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Speaker 1: Like the timing of this is what I'm trying to understand,

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Speaker 1: You know, he's facing investigation from House Republicans obviously, so

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Speaker 1: unless there's a tie in with Joe Biden, none of

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Speaker 1: this really moves the needle, meaning it doesn't it doesn't

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Speaker 1: change anything about the regime whether Hunter. You know, I

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Speaker 1: U and I think that's just there's a sense of disarray. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Hunter has some strategy here because

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Speaker 1: of it. All. His lawyers are are talented, and he's

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Speaker 1: So someone has said to Hunter Biden, hey, you need

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Speaker 1: What I can't put my finger on, buck is how

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Speaker 1: Then it's I don't know if to buy laptop or not.

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Speaker 1: He had a measure of defense in claiming that it

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Speaker 1: because to me, he's totally weakened himself by admitting it's

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Speaker 1: it's indicative that he's facing more peril, because otherwise, why

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Speaker 1: You always look with Hunter Biden as as much as

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Speaker 1: and it's Buck shifting out of this particular arena. This

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Speaker 1: then you shift to its consensual now in a totally

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Speaker 1: you find, by the way, in the education bureaucracy, people

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Speaker 1: wonder where's all the money going in public education. It's

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Speaker 1: going to administrators. Administrators out number in terms of additions.

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Speaker 1: And I'm basing this off of reading I've done in

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Speaker 1: year's past, But something like six or seven to one

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Speaker 1: clay for every one teacher that is added to the

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Speaker 1: average American school district over the last I think it's

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Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years, there's been six administrators. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is just people pushing paper around

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Speaker 1: from one desk to another, doing diversity and inclusion training

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Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. And you know, RHN

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Speaker 1: de Santis talking about the wins we're seeing here and

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Speaker 1: we bring this up by the way, this isn't in

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Speaker 1: the context of oh twenty twenty four right now. No, no,

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Speaker 1: this is what's happening now and what other Republican governors

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Speaker 1: should also be looking to do. Let's make it about governance.

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Speaker 1: We all know now and in the post COVID era

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Speaker 1: governors matter. If you're a red state governor with a

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Speaker 1: Republican majority legislature, you've got to get things done. Can't

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Speaker 1: just be business as usual. You've got to look at

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Speaker 1: what has been done basically wrong by Democrats in the past.

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Speaker 1: Set things right. On the ap curriculum controversy, it's not

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Speaker 1: a controversy at all. But desantists, there's there's now laws

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Speaker 1: that have been passing Florida that don't allow for CRT

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Speaker 1: in school, for example, and the Florida as a state

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Speaker 1: rejected the what is it the college board that that

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Speaker 1: created the ape in African and African American studies? What

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Speaker 1: the left is saying, what the left is claiming is, oh,

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Speaker 1: but this is a rejection. Actually, we have somebody who's saying,

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Speaker 1: why don't we let's play at a university Howard University

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Speaker 1: professor Taylor play twelve, So it's very anti intellectual for

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Speaker 1: anybody to try to erase certain parts of black studies,

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Speaker 1: the black culture, black history because they particularly don't like

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Speaker 1: it or think it's controversial to them. There's a whole

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Speaker 1: segment of our community that identify as a black queer. Moreover,

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Speaker 1: the Reparations movement and the Black Lives Matter movement are

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Speaker 1: important social movements in African American life. And I did

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Speaker 1: not hear about him criticizing the European History Exam or

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Speaker 1: even the Japanese Language and Culture Exam. Just this one, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's because this one included. And by the way, it

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Speaker 1: has already been amended, and it has already the new

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Speaker 1: curriculum has already approved. It's just the state of Florida

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Speaker 1: is like, we don't want and these are directly taken.

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Speaker 1: These are modules from what was rejected Black queer studies,

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Speaker 1: post racial racism, the case for reparations, and other such

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Speaker 1: modules are that's not learning, that's indoctrination. Those are highly

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Speaker 1: ideological things to be teaching high schoolers. Yeah, it's theory.

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Speaker 1: And as somebody who was a history nerd myself, who

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Speaker 1: majored in history in undergrad and took a lot of

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Speaker 1: these APE courses. I mean, this woman doesn't understand what

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Speaker 1: she's talking about. European history tells you what happened in Europe.

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Speaker 1: That's European history. Black history in AP courses can tell

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Speaker 1: you what's happened in black history, but it doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to have like graduate level theorizing on the role of

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Speaker 1: race in America and how it's impacted the gay black experience, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are post grad very advanced courses if

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Speaker 1: you want to get into them, And for anybody out

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Speaker 1: there who's ever gotten into graduate school or taken graduate courses,

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Speaker 1: you increasingly study less and less relevant things. Frankly, the

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Speaker 1: higher up the educational spectrum you meet move in humanities.

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Speaker 1: This is I thought about being a history professor for

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Speaker 1: a while, Buck. I think it would have been a

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Speaker 1: great life. I taught creative writing at Vanderbilt. I think

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Speaker 1: it would have been fun. But in history in particular,

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Speaker 1: you specialize to such a degree that you end up

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Speaker 1: focusing on like one day of the Battle of Gettysburg,

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Speaker 1: and at some point, as much fun as I love

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Speaker 1: the Battle of Gettysburg and studying it, you get so

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Speaker 1: bogged down in tiny details that you miss bigger picture issues,

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Speaker 1: and when you're in high school you should be learning

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Speaker 1: the bigger, bigger picture issues. If you had to teach

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Speaker 1: an entire year long college course on one battle in

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Speaker 1: all of history, would it be Gettysburg? What would it be? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it would be Gettysburg. Gettysburg right off the bat, see,

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Speaker 1: I think strange. I'd probably do the Battle of Lepanto

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Speaker 1: I would go Gettysburg one, the second one. And for

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Speaker 1: the military historians out there, probably the most fascinating battle

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Speaker 1: love to teach a course on. Yeah. Maybe maybe, maybe

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We rolled

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Speaker 1: through the first hour of the show here on the

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition. I wanted to play this because we're talking

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Speaker 1: about new attorneys, new aggressive I guess sort of stance

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Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden is adopting and Ron Klain, who may

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Speaker 1: well have been the default president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: He has been the chief of staff for Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: for the first two years that he has been in office.

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Speaker 1: Ron Klaine got emotional. They had a press conference for him.

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Speaker 1: He started crying, and of all the things that he

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Speaker 1: could focus on about Joe Biden, he said, in particular,

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Speaker 1: he learned everything about how to be a good father

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Speaker 1: from Joe Biden. Best role model out there. Not sure

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Speaker 1: I would make that argument given what's going on with Hunter.

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Speaker 1: I learned everything I know about how to be a

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Speaker 1: good father from Joe Biden. He is the best father

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Speaker 1: I know and the best role model. I know. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's that was ron Klain. Yeah, he's crying. Of

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Speaker 1: all the things that you could praise Joe Biden for

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Speaker 1: right now, do you think, given what has gone on

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Speaker 1: winner and look, I mean there's a lot of scandalous

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Speaker 1: things out there about his relationship with his daughter, is

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Speaker 1: being a great father? Really what you would point to

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Speaker 1: and be like, I've learned first of all, everything that

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Speaker 1: you know, did you not have a dad yourself? Do

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Speaker 1: you not have a lie men in your household? Other

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Speaker 1: than Joe Biden. I think it's interesting because the way

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Speaker 1: that they must, that the narrative must line up here

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Speaker 1: is that Hunter Biden and I do I do think

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Speaker 1: that there is an understated public sympathy with Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: because Hunter is such a mess, because he's such a disaster.

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Speaker 1: People think, oh, I know, you know my brother or

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Speaker 1: my sister in law or my you know uncle Morty

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Speaker 1: or whomever you know when they had their terrible drinking

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Speaker 1: problem and where you know, I know what that's like.

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Speaker 1: So I think there is this undercurrent and by the

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Speaker 1: way I understand and respect this, I'm saying, I think

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Speaker 1: there's this undercurrent of sympathy for him dealing with the mess.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, Hunter is the mess, who is

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Speaker 1: his son, and this is the end product of his fathering.

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Speaker 1: So kind of a weird thing to think that's not

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Speaker 1: only Hunter, by the way, I mean, look, is that

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Speaker 1: one of his I don't remember think daughter's name. But

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Speaker 1: the whole journal that turned into a big issue that

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Speaker 1: had all sorts of supposedly not very positive things to

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Speaker 1: say about Joe Biden as a father. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that of all the things you could be saying, you're

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Speaker 1: breaking down in tears talking about everything you learned about

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Speaker 1: how to be a father came from Joe Biden. It

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Speaker 1: just so much of this is not only that they

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Speaker 1: lie to us, it's that they're clearly lying and on

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Speaker 1: some level believing the why themselves. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: great a level oscar performance by Ron Klaine. To be

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Speaker 1: crying about how a father Joe Biden is. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's super strange. Now. I do think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of sympathy out there for Joe Biden about what

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Speaker 1: happened with Bo. Of course, Bo seems to have been

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Speaker 1: an actual son that you could be proud of. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, Joe Biden. He has gone through tremendous

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Speaker 1: personal tragedy. That is a fact. That is that is

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Speaker 1: very true. He has also gotten a lot of political

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Speaker 1: advantage out of talking about in a very specific way

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Speaker 1: at times these tragedies and the truth that that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and used them to advance himself. So you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a big part of who he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again he's played very loose with many of the facts.

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Speaker 1: As we've talked about before. In the traffic accident, his

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Speaker 1: wife died and I think a daughter died. He claimed

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Speaker 1: that the person who hit her was drunk. That's one

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Speaker 1: percent a lot. He claimed that Bo died in Iraq

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Speaker 1: while serving the country a lot of times. That's one percent.

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Speaker 1: At anybody who who has heard Joe who doesn't know

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Speaker 1: the backstory, And here's what Joe Biden says about Bow

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Speaker 1: thinks that Bo died in action in a rock serving country.

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Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I'm sorry, that's just not true.

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Speaker 1: So this is where we are. He has had bad

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Speaker 1: things happen to him. Rather than tell the truth about

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Speaker 1: all the details surrounding that, he's exaggerated it. Just like

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Speaker 1: I believe ron Klain exaggerated the idea that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: new study out masks essentially don't work. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about where people are still wearing masks in the

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Speaker 1: United States. It should be a joke. It's not. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know this story, you're gonna love it.

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Speaker 1: That's next here on claim Bump,