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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's the show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And

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Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know

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Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald

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Speaker 2: money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. This is Rashan McDonald. Welcome. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate everybody who listens to the show. I guess

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Speaker 1: I want to call him a longtime friend. It was

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Speaker 1: at the Black Media Awards we were sitting at the

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Speaker 1: same table and we decided to get together on this

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Speaker 1: radio show to talk talk in public and then it's

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Speaker 1: important And my guess is Alfred A. Edman Jr. He's

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Speaker 1: widely recognized for his expertise on business and economic trends, entrepreneurship,

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Speaker 1: personal finance, leadership, development and mentorship. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: ask me about mentorship all the time on this show.

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Speaker 1: He appears regularly as an expert commentator on national television,

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Speaker 1: radio shows, streaming and podcast program He's an award winning

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Speaker 1: multimedia journalist. When I was with him, he got an award.

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Speaker 1: He's a senior vice president Editor at Large at Black Enterprise,

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Speaker 1: responsible for providing branding, marketing, content leadership as a member

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Speaker 1: of the multimedia company's senior management TERAM team. Please work

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Speaker 1: with the money, make conversation MASTERCLIVEE Afford Edmund Junior.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, sir, Hey man, It's good to be

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Speaker 3: with you again. I'm doing great effort.

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Speaker 1: You know when I when I think about you, you know,

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Speaker 1: the word legend pops up because you when you win,

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you you've covered so much

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Speaker 1: ground and you've seen this game of you know, because

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Speaker 1: it was really interesting. Because I used to say Black

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Speaker 1: Enterprise Magazine. Now just say Black Enterprise. That is am

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Speaker 1: I right? And assuming that the landscape has changed that

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Speaker 1: way because I said it used to be saying Black

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Speaker 1: Enterprise magazine. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right with Seawan. I mean, we technically

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Speaker 3: haven't been a at least not a printed magazine since

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Speaker 3: since like twenty sixteen, but the Black Enterprise magazine brand

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Speaker 3: is so strong that people still think of us as

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Speaker 3: a magazine, even though we are now a fully digital,

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Speaker 3: live and virtual events company and have been for some time.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the brand that Argue late founder and

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Speaker 3: the visionary Earl Grade Senior built is so strong that

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Speaker 3: people still think that they see a Black Enterprise magazine

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Speaker 3: on the newsstands and I say, no, you actually haven't.

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Speaker 3: It just feels that way, but you know, we'll take it.

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Speaker 3: It's all love. It's all love.

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Speaker 1: It is because you know, when I, when I was

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Speaker 1: just putting together the you know so content kept I

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Speaker 1: kept wanting to say Black Enterprise magazine, magazine magazine. I

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Speaker 1: said no, no, no, no, because in our go online

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Speaker 1: that research tremendous articles that are especially the support of

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Speaker 1: what you guys do with small businesses an NBA. How

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Speaker 1: important is that to the lifeline or the blood line

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Speaker 1: of Black enterprise.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's why we exist. And let me just

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Speaker 3: say for your audience, we answer to both. There's such

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Speaker 3: thing as a digital magazine, so we answer to Black

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Speaker 3: Enterprise of Black Enterprise magazine. But the success of black

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Speaker 3: people in general and black business owners and entrepreneurs in

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Speaker 3: particular is the life blood of Black enterprise. Black businesses

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Speaker 3: aren't growing, Black people aren't making more money. Our tagline

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Speaker 3: is wealth or life. We exist so that Black people

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Speaker 3: can build better businesses, bigger businesses, more profitable businesses, have

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Speaker 3: more successful careers, make more money that way, make more

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Speaker 3: money as investors and money managers, or whatever way you

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Speaker 3: do all three to get to where you want to go.

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Speaker 3: That's what we do. And to the degree that Black

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Speaker 3: America builds wealth than Black enterprise is successful as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, first of all, I got you on this show,

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Speaker 1: but there are other ways people can communicate with you

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Speaker 1: because you're writ and Coro producering host of Black Enterprise

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Speaker 1: interview series Beyond the Hype Correct and Your Money and

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Speaker 1: Your Life. You on Facebook Life tell us about Beyond

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Speaker 1: the Hype and Your Money, which right there engages me

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Speaker 1: right there because we always realize people hype stuff up

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Speaker 1: in the end, it's involved your money. Beyond the hype

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Speaker 1: and your money, what exactly is that?

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Speaker 3: So those are two of about a dozen interview series

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Speaker 3: that are part of the premier content offerings a black enterprise. Right,

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Speaker 3: Your Money, Your Life is a traditional personal finance series

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Speaker 3: that I do that usually streams on Thursdays at noon, right,

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Speaker 3: then Beyond the Hype, which actually streams on Tuesdays at noon.

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Speaker 3: Actually the latest episode streamed earlier today is really my

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Speaker 3: and today we talked about My guest was Karen R. Baker,

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Speaker 3: who's a designed justice advocate an expert who talked about

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Speaker 3: black culture if we don't really get ahead of it

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Speaker 3: in terms of cultural appropriation or misappropriation. So we talked

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Speaker 3: important for black people to stay on top of it. So,

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Speaker 3: but we have other series like Sisters, Inc. Hosted by

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Speaker 3: my colleague A Lisa Gumbs. We have The New Norm

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Speaker 3: hosted by my colleagues Selena Hill. Even our CEO, But Graves,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean it's one of the many ways

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Speaker 3: to engage in the premium content of Black Enterprise, in

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Speaker 3: addition to our daily reporting of news and business and

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Speaker 1: Right, Alfred, you hit a buzzword with me AI. You know,

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Speaker 1: because we always lasted the party last to get hired,

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Speaker 1: first to get fired, you know, last, nobody stock tip last,

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence? Can you first, Let's let's stay on that

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Speaker 1: And then when I hear the word we got to

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Speaker 1: get on top of it, it can't be a threat, because

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Speaker 1: not only a threat just to the black community. You

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Speaker 1: we all got to get on top of this AI.

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Speaker 1: This artificial intelligence, especially when you can just have just

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Speaker 1: People are using law briefs for AI. And the history

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Speaker 1: I know about AI is that once your information is

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Speaker 1: so it could be common knowledge on my show. The

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Speaker 3: Well, well, let me say upfront that the show that

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Speaker 3: you know we did today on Beyond the Height, you

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Speaker 3: can still go to Black Enterprises YouTube channel and here

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Speaker 3: you know Karen R. Baker who was a great guest

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Speaker 3: who went deep on this subject for what it means

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Speaker 3: Entrepreneurs Because our point is this where every technology that

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Speaker 3: basic Internet before that, every iteration of technology poses both

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Speaker 3: a threat and an opportunity. And you said it, depending

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Speaker 3: so we've been leaning very heavily into. The goal is

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Speaker 3: that if we only see it as consumers of the technology,

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Speaker 3: So we stress, especially to the entrepreneurs, especially to the creatives,

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Speaker 3: but we're not producing. And that's what Karen Baker's point.

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Speaker 3: She's an expert in design, she's actually getting a PhD

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Speaker 1: AHF For you are the senior vice president executive editor

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Speaker 1: at large of Black Enterprise, I would think that AI

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Speaker 1: but I would think that when you combine that technology

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Speaker 1: would think that AI can be a gateway to tremendous

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Speaker 3: So your point is very well made. It really does

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Speaker 3: give us an opportunity if we lean into it, to

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Speaker 3: It cannot take the place of what black people bring

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can stop me if I'm if I'm leaning

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Speaker 1: want to admit slavery exist. So in AI, because AI

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Speaker 3: We're not victims, we're not perpetrators, we're not athletes, and

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Speaker 3: to create a black men excel for the vast majority

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Speaker 3: those five categories, yet still deserve to be recognized, you know,

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Speaker 3: because you're right, you turn on the TV. If you

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've the fortune of good bad fortune.

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Speaker 1: I lived in New York and New York was horrible

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Speaker 1: just watching blacks being I can't say it's the truth

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Speaker 1: because I don't know what the truth is. That's what

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Speaker 1: the I was in LA in the early nineties when

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Speaker 1: like this, they should be celebrated because for once we

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Speaker 1: got a paint. We got to change the narrative of honesty.

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Speaker 1: And this is what AI comes into play too, because

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Speaker 1: AI can damage and hurt the progress that there's summus

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Speaker 1: like this that you are doing and in producing are creating. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean we've been fighting and it was the

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Speaker 3: reason I became a journalist in the first place. Back

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Speaker 3: when I was an undergraduate in college, now over forty

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Speaker 3: years ago, I heard a speech by the granddaughter of

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Speaker 3: Paul Roberson. Her name was Susan Robison. She was a

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Speaker 3: producer for a black issue show called Like It Is

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Speaker 3: it with other kids, and she said that black people

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Speaker 3: are in the battle of the images. It's why the

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Speaker 3: By Wells and others got into this idea that we

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Speaker 3: we have to tell our own narrative, because if we

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Speaker 3: don't control our own images, our own narrative, then we'd

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Speaker 3: either become erased or attacked. And so the game is in.

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Speaker 3: The battle is still going on. Whether once upon a

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Speaker 3: time it was black newspapers, now it's AI and digital media,

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Speaker 3: but it's the same battle. And you're right, if we

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Speaker 1: My brother, at least once a quarter, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear your voice on my show. I have been so inspired,

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Speaker 1: so moved, and so educated by this conversation, and we

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Speaker 1: need to hear you more. I know you've got podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Brother, how much I admire you, respect you. I was

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Speaker 3: so happy that we got the lay eyes on each other. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: media honors a couple of you know a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, man, you call, I'm coming okay.

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Speaker 1: I thank you and I appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Man in Black Enterprise that's right, Black Say magazine if

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Speaker 1: you want to, but it's Black Enterprise and he and

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Speaker 1: he answered the call. Thank you for coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: Out for my pleasure, Rashaan be well, all.

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Speaker 4: Bye bye, Thank you for joining us for this edition

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Speaker 6: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute

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Speaker 6: of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 7: Gospel rapper Lacree has won multiple Grammy and Billboard awards

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Speaker 7: and he is one of my.

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Speaker 1: Favorite Christian rappers. He stated that he is focusing on

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Speaker 1: faith over religion. I asked him.

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Speaker 9: To explain, sometimes I think you wear that face, you

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Speaker 9: just put on those lenses that allow you to just

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Speaker 9: keep going and pushing through without dealing with the problems

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Speaker 9: and the trauma, and you allow successes to define you.

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Speaker 9: Instead of you being successful out of a healthy and

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Speaker 9: whole version of yourself, You're allowing the successes to convince

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Speaker 9: you that you are healthy and whole. And I think

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Speaker 9: that's a very different thing.

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Speaker 10: And so for me, it was a matter of becoming

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Speaker 10: a healthy, whole individual and dealing with some historical traumas

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Speaker 10: and recognizing that was a slave what other people wanted

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Speaker 10: of me and not being who I was created to be.

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Speaker 7: If you want to hear this full interview with Lakree,

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Speaker 1: Keep winning