1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, since the World's Most Dangerous wanting to show to 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: Breakfast Club CHARLAMAGNEA God just hilarious. DJ Envy is off 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: and Laura LaRosa is at court following Diddy's try But 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: we have a special guest here, Lenee Bene. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: What's happening in Lenae? 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure that y'all see Lenae all the time. 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 3: Her parking Lot pimping, Pimping episodes have come across your 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: feed in some way, shape or form. But now you 12 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: got to show called the People's Brief. Yeah, on Revolt 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Tuesday at nine pm. What's the difference between the People's 14 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: Brief and Walking Lot Pimping? 15 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: Oh, one thing, we got more time, it's forty five minutes. 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: It's also not so you know, every week news headline. 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: It's more so evergreen things that are happening in the news, 18 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 4: but things that we can talk about over the course 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: of times. They affect us every day. And just giving 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 4: people more tools. I feel like on social media, I've 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: always tried to be more information heavy and. 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Just provide a positive outlook. 23 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: But now that we got more time, we want to 24 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: try to provide resources too, and answers to questions. 25 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 5: And I just complained, how different is it from parking 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 5: lot pimping. 27 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: I won't say it's too different. I still get to 28 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: say what I want to say. We what TV fourteen, 29 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: so let's cuss in. But the team over there want 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: to do what I want to do, and that's like 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: give everybody the truth and be helpful. We kind of 32 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: take the same old doctors do, do no harm and 33 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 4: as much as we can. Yeah, the tone is the same, 34 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: but it's really cool because it's not it's newsy, but 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 4: it's not. I never taken a traditional approach to things. 36 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: So it's like a mix of sixty Minutes and John 37 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: Tonight with John Oliver, the Daily Show, a little bit 38 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: of Amber Ruffin but with me, Yeah, it was rounded. 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: It's very well rounded. We have a lot of fun. 40 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: The first couple of episode, the first episode were premiered 41 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: What's Day Thursday. Premiere this week Tuesday, and I had 42 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: Angela Rye On as my first guest. 43 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: That was amazing. 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we get to get out in the field, do 45 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: something on the street, but a lot of good people 46 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: come through and we have a lot of fun. 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 5: Did you want to keep parking lot pimping as the 48 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: show for a revolt like the title of the show. No, 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: did you wanted to make it something else? 50 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to be something else. 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: I think the identity of it transfers because it's still me, 52 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: but it needed to be something different. 53 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: It needs to be an evolution. So I was cool, 54 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: and I still get to do the parking lot. 55 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: I don't know how often, because as you see, I'm 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: here just like my weeks look different now. But I've 57 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 4: always said the parking lot is never going to leave. 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: It's something crazy. They're right on the Capitol another January sixth, 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: I'll pull out my chair and I do some content. 60 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: We're just figured it out the flow. 61 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: Do you have a random parking lot you go to? 62 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Are you just fine where I live? 63 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 64 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I wanted to ask you, Lina. 65 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: How do you know when to educate, when to entertain, 66 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: and when to rest Ooh? 67 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Restling is new to me. It's been 68 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: a new endeavor. 69 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: When I say new, maybe the past couple of years 70 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: because I've just had to be so much more intentional 71 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: about it. But I speak to things when I feel 72 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: it's necessary, and I'm real in tune with the Lord. 73 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: I used to stay stay in tune with your star player, 74 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 4: as Kat william says. But yeah, I just everything that 75 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: I speak to I make sure that I'm not just 76 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: trying to be the first one to speak my opinion 77 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 4: on something or just like offer something to the dooms grow. 78 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: How can I make this conversation useful? How can I 79 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: make this something? How can I provide another tool? And 80 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: like I said, it's easy to find confident that makes 81 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: you feel bad? 82 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: How can I make people feel good? 83 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: And more often than that, especially now that I have 84 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: a team to help me concoct these stories, it's less 85 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: on me, so it's less taxing. 86 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you write from a place of anger or 87 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: hope or exhaustion? 88 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: All three of them? And it's funny you say that, 89 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: did y'all see inside out to Oh? 90 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: Hell? 91 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, if you've seen them, then you get the concept. 92 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: I have my friends say like, who's at our leaderboard 93 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: and everybody said my top three are anger, discussed, and joy. 94 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: Because of the way that I see things, I just 95 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm real big on character above anything, and the way 96 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: you like contribute to society above anything, so more often 97 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: than not, I'm disgusted, and more often than not that 98 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: makes me exhausted. And you know, a lot of things 99 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: make me angry. But I also think anger is a 100 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: valid emotion and it doesn't always have to present in 101 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: a way that is heavy. 102 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: It's just what it is. 103 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: Like. 104 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm a black woman in America. 105 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 4: A lot of things make me upset, and I should 106 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: be able to say that without being made to feel 107 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: like I have to cover up my emotions in any 108 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: particular way. But I think the method of storytelling me 109 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: uses combines all those things in a beautiful way that 110 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: also shows that we're more than our anger, or more 111 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: than our joy, more than our exhaustion, more than our disgust, 112 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: and we can be all things at one time and 113 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: still be full functioning members of society. 114 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: How did you end up at Revolt? How did that happen? 115 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: You know, good people speaking my name, and good rooms. 116 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: I've been very blessed to have a team no matter 117 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: what I'm working on, and they've been fighting for me 118 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: in different rooms. I've been pitching different versions of shows, 119 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: whether it's scripted unscripted, for the past five years, and 120 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: nothing's just been the right fit. But as I said, 121 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: I be in tune with the Lord, and he told 122 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: me at the end of the last year to stop 123 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: trying to force things and to just put stuff down 124 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 4: and let him work. And as soon as I said okay, 125 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: wasn't even expecting it. Two weeks later got a call 126 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: and said Revolte wants to give you a show. I 127 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: was like what, Wow, okay, and my hands were open, 128 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: so I was ready to receive it. So that's how 129 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: we ended up together. 130 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: Oh. 131 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: I wonder for somebody like you, Lene, what do you 132 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: do when you feel like your words on enough. 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel like my word's on enough. 134 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I do what I'm supposed to do, 135 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: and I'm okay with that my contribution as long as 136 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: I do my best, I'm okay with that whatever the 137 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: result is, because whatever I was supposed to contribute is 138 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 4: all I was supposed to contribute, because it's not just 139 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: up to me, it's not just up to anybody. 140 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Like we all put in. 141 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: We all have a piece to the puzzle to create 142 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: the fuller picture. And sometimes it may feel like it 143 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: didn't hit the way it was supposed to hit, but 144 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: you got to give things time, like the sows. The 145 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: seeds you sow always have their time for harvest, and 146 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: I've just learned to be content and patient with my contribution. 147 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: So it's sometimes you feel like it's like a call 148 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: to action, almost like you might activate the person who 149 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: might go out there and actually get active. 150 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely what I feel like. My lane is. 151 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: I feel like I am My job is tent part 152 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: information to bring as many people to the table as possible, 153 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: to make them invested, to make them excited, and those 154 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: are the people that go out and do something with it. 155 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: Even when I left my master's program, my professors told 156 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: me I was only going to be able to make 157 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: money or make a life for myself if I continue 158 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: to get my PhD. 159 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: And that's not what I felt called to do. 160 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: I immediately wanted to go and share with very young 161 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: people all the things that I learned in my program 162 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: that I had to pay twenty five thousand dollars and 163 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: take out loans to get with all these real stuffy 164 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: people that may not have the best methods as far 165 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: as connecting with the general public. But I was like, 166 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: if I can impart this in high school students, they 167 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: can apply to college, they can go on career paths 168 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: that with the knowledge, with a fuller knowledge of their 169 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: capacity and ability and vocabulary and nuance to be change agents. 170 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: So that's all I've ever wanted to do, and that's 171 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: what I'm doing, and I'm grateful for that. 172 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: And as a Spellman grad, congratulations, I love that. What 173 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: part of that hbc you experience has shaped your voice? 174 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: Well, at Spelman, we got a sand It's my choice, 175 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: and I choose to change the world. And it's funny, 176 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: I've said this, I've told this story so many times, 177 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: but when I was first applied, I had teachers at 178 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: my high school telling me they didn't think I should go. 179 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: They didn't think that I would get in because it 180 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: was too expensive, that it wasn't. 181 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: The real world. 182 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: But we shouldn't be encouraging our kids in masks to 183 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: go to school to learn how to plug into the 184 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: way things already exist. Like we need to be disruptives, 185 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: we need to be change agents. And that's what my 186 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: HBCU did for me. It was a psychology student, but 187 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 4: every single class you take, whether it's the biology of women, 188 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: whether it's math, finite math, or whatever, computer science, you 189 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: take it through the lens of black feminism, and so 190 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: we have advantage point that allows us to see everybody's 191 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: pain and it just makes us. That's why we be 192 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: the best applicants for the job most of the time, 193 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: most suited for the job most of the time, because 194 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: we see people. And so my HBC experience really allowed 195 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: me to see what people need in order to feel seen, 196 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: and I try to put that in my storytelling as well. 197 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: How do you navigate being both a political educator but 198 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: also a cultural influencer and algorithm driven work. 199 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: Well, politics was never my game, It was never my choice. 200 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: You couldn't touch me with politics with a ten foot pole. 201 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: It just became necessary. So, like I said, I've always 202 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: been driven by what's necessary, and I started this work 203 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: to really be steeped in pop culture and connect that 204 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: through to history through an interdisciplinary lens. But as I began, 205 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: I started in twenty twenty, so politics was just like 206 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: thrust upon us in a real way, and so I 207 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 4: challenged myself to say, like, Okay, I know that we 208 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: need to understand this, so how can I incorporate this 209 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: into what I do? And it just became even more 210 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: and more and more necessary. So I just think because 211 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: I speak to people like we cousins, like we family, 212 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: because I don't try to hit people over the head 213 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: with it, and because I let myself feel all the 214 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: things like a regular person feels. They the algorithm can't 215 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 4: beat the content that I'm putting out. Yeah, Like I 216 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: draw people regardless, and people sharing it in their family 217 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: group chats, grandmas and aunties and kids in seventh grade 218 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 4: and high school students all like talking about what was 219 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: on the parking lot this week. And I'm really grateful 220 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: for that because it's not about me and my parking lot. 221 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: It's really about the information being shared. So I'm grateful 222 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: for the anointing that's been put on me that's allowed, 223 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: no matter what's changed in the social media landscape, people 224 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: to come to the parking lot. 225 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: Of I love when black people say we're not political. 226 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: Are you saying politic politics is not your back? Because 227 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: when you black in this country, everything is politics. I 228 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: don't care what hood you from, I don't care what 229 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: ruin are you from. In the South, everybody from your 230 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: drunk uncle, your crackhead cousin, everybody's talking about what's going 231 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: on in that system and how the government is sucking 232 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: us in someone, So it's like you can't avoid having 233 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: that conversation. 234 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: That's what I learned. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, what's. 235 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: One political issue you think just we've become too performative 236 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: about and not solution oriented enough about. 237 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: I think voting. 238 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying voting is the only tool. 239 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 4: It is, but it is seventy five percent of the 240 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: work organizing and sustaining that movement. 241 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I will actually take that back. 242 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: It's sustaining period, sustainability period in terms of how we organize, 243 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: in terms of how we fight back against political oppression, 244 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 4: because we often wait the year cycle to begin to 245 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: complain about what we don't like about candidates and then 246 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: are upset when we're not able to show up in 247 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: full force and vote together. 248 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: And that make a difference. 249 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that we give ourselves the opportunity for 250 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 4: our work to actually for our work to return to 251 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: us in a good way, because unfortunately, a lot of 252 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: times we are motivated by rage and sadness and we 253 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: want to get active when things hit close to home. 254 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: But something is always hitting close to home for everybody, 255 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: and if we don't learn to act as a community 256 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: and have the sort of sustain Garrison Hayes said in 257 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: a segment in my episode this past Tuesday. He said, 258 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: these people don't let up. They've been strategizing. They don't 259 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: stop strategizing, So why should we, And especially if we're 260 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: already playing catch up, Like it's never a day when 261 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: we should just be like, oh, the struggle will be 262 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: here tomorrow. But that means you should also be strategizing 263 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: for tomorrow. And it's not to say that your life 264 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: has to be completely shaped by that, because I say 265 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: often like I don't my friends think I'm single now, 266 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: and they're like, so what you want like a Mark 267 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: Lamont Hill. No, Like, no shade to Mark. He's great, 268 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: But I don't need that to encompass my entire life. 269 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 4: Like I'm still a human being. So I'm not saying 270 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: that you gotta live, breathe, die, fight the power, but 271 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 4: you do have to have some things ingrained in the 272 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: way that you move about your day period to. 273 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: Understand that the work never stops. So we just gotta 274 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: find that balance. 275 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: And for you, I want somebody who knows that women 276 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: can have babies. Oh, only women can have babies. 277 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: I just want to let you know that interesting there 278 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: are other people who can have babies, Okay, yeah, I 279 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: mean if they have a uterus, they can have babies, 280 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: but they just might identify as women two different things, 281 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: Like you can be biologically female, but you can't be 282 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: biologically woman. 283 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: This woman is a gender construct ocial construct. If you 284 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: got a uterius here, you can have a baby. 285 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the point. If you have a uterusy, you 286 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: can have a baby. 287 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, we have we agree on that. 288 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: Has the Democratic Party tried to cooper your platform or 289 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: methodge I was reading this article in the New York 290 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: Times yesterday and it was the headline is Democrats throw 291 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: money at a problem. 292 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. I just had it up. 293 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: But it basically is out there paying influences and they're 294 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to utilize the Internet and. 295 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: In the game. I think people got to understand is. 296 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: Republicans have been using people with a microphone for years 297 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: to just disseminate misinformation. So it's not even like that's 298 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: not a tool that shouldn't be used because we do 299 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: have to have some opposition. They haven't tried to buy me. No, 300 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: I only talk to people I want to talk to. 301 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 4: There's no amount of money. There's no check that just 302 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: would make me want to like jump on the bandwagon, 303 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: especially because I have critiques. I gotta be able to 304 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: say whatever I want to say, and the Democratic Party 305 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 4: definitely got some things that need to be worked on. 306 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: I had the honor of working with some good people 307 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 4: in the CBC. And that's the other thing. Like we 308 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: live in America, there's no institution that's got it right 309 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 4: or has always had it right from jumps. So I 310 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 4: don't sit here and act like I absolutely have to 311 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: agree with something a body has done since its conception. 312 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: But if I'm working with people who I understand are 313 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: genuine and their efforts, like I'm down with that because, 314 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 4: like I said, I'm trying to be solution oriented and 315 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: do no harm and as much as I can. 316 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: And you mentioned Garrison earlier. I like Garrison a lot too. 317 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: Have you all ever thought about being in politic. 318 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: I'm not sure where Garrison has planned. I have mess 319 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: some influencers who are interested in that work. I just 320 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: don't think it's personally my calling. Like I said, I 321 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: think my role is to inspire and my role is 322 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: to work alongside. When we look at the people who 323 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: have been people who have been a part of our 324 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: story as far as Black history goes. We got people 325 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: in every industry, and I think we forget that it's 326 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: not just about politics. It's also about who is singing songs. 327 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: It's also about who's acting on TV scerience because even 328 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: like the breakfast Club, who's listening to you guys speak 329 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: every day like we all have a role in getting 330 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: people engaged in a process, and we have to be 331 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: in the marketplace, in mass and in different ways to 332 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: be able to exercise enough influence to get people focused 333 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: back in on the problem. So I'm just one of 334 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: those people. And I consider myself more of an artist 335 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: than anything, a storyteller. As I said, I'm getting back 336 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: into my poetry and spoken word. But that's what I 337 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: feel called. 338 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: And it's sad to do. 339 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: When you Askedelman, what was your major psychology? You want 340 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: to be a therapist psych Absolutely not. 341 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to understand people. 342 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're majored in psychologists to be able to 343 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: understand people. 344 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely dope. 345 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: Well, clearly it worked. 346 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: What is uh? 347 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: Some challenges that you know, because this is a big responsibility. 348 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: You have a show, a weekly show, having to come 349 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: up with this content, whether it is I know, it's 350 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: a bunch of different things that you do, but it's 351 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 5: still when it's a longer time, you know, is there 352 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: or are there any challenges that you run into having 353 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: to have everything together? You know, and it ain't nothing 354 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: going on? 355 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: What do you oh? It's always something going on. But 356 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I think I have a team. It's not just me. 357 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: So we got about five writers on the show and 358 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: we id eight. 359 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: We were really never not talking to each other, but 360 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: we picked these themes that honestly could use three to 361 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: four episodes, but we try to pick out the subtopics that. 362 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: Make the most sense for the story we're trying to 363 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: tell in that one episode. 364 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: And I think the biggest challenge right now since we're 365 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: brand new, is bringing people to the table to have 366 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: a conversation with us, like booking guests. We're also in Atlanta, 367 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: and people travel through Atlanta all the time, but they 368 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: don't stop and stay all the time. So we're hoping 369 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: though with what we've done so far, we're able to 370 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: build a portfolio that makes people be like, dang, I'm 371 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: going through Atlanta. Let me see if I can stop 372 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: by the people's reef just like people want to stop 373 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: by the breakfast club. So we're working towards it, we're 374 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: figuring it out. But yeah, I just think the hardest 375 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: part is adjusting because we want to be ahead, you know, 376 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: and it's hard to stay ahead when you want to 377 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: do it right because things take time. 378 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: But we'll figure it out. 379 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: You said something that it's so interesting to me. You 380 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: said you went to Spellman, you're majored in psychology because 381 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: you wanted to understand people. I never went to college, 382 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: but I did try to attend a couple of technical 383 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: schools in my area. 384 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: Charic in Psychrolina, tried and technical college. 385 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: One time I went for communications, one time I went 386 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: for business, one time I went for psychology. And I 387 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: went because of that reason. I wanted to understand myself 388 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: and I wanted to understand other people. So what did 389 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: you want to understand about people? 390 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: Exactly? 391 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: Behavior? What drives behavior? Also what affects behavior? 392 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 4: And you find out, you know, one of the biggest 393 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 4: arguments is nature versus nurture, and you just find out 394 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 4: all the things that contextualize those two things. What it's 395 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: your upbringing, whether it's like in the things you might 396 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 4: Inherit also like what socioeconomic stressors that have affected your 397 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: family long term that can result in yielding specific behaviors 398 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: or even psychotic breaks or what have you. Don't have 399 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: to get too deep into that kind of stuff. But 400 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, and I also was 401 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 4: a person I grew up in the Deep South Baptist, 402 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: I didn't really stand that much about therapy, and I 403 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: remember in one of my first classes, I was like, yeah, 404 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: that's cool and all I want to learn about bipolitist order, 405 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: but like black people don't really get that right, and 406 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: it was like, no, girl, we are exposed to these 407 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 4: sort of things. But anyway, I think at the end 408 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: of the day, it just really helped me understand emotions 409 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: and like I said, the validity of them and giving 410 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: them space to exist and what can trigger you on 411 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 4: what can't, And then also how outside stressors like race, 412 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: like gender, like sexuality or whatever also contribute to a 413 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: person's well being. And I think saying it right now, 414 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: I think what I just want most is for Black 415 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: people to be well, no matter what you look like, 416 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: no matter who you with, no matter how you move 417 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: throught your life. I want us to be well and 418 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 4: I want us to be invested in the wellness of 419 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: one another, because the object and goals of oppression is 420 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: to make us sick, to make us distracted. And if 421 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: we are focused on one another's wellness and wholeness, then 422 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 4: we can be stronger than ever. 423 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: Do you remember one of the first textbooks they gave 424 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: you at Spelman. 425 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, adw in the World, the African Diaspora in the world. 426 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 4: We all had to take an introductory class where we 427 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: learned about just the experience of black people around the globe. 428 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: I was not just us experiencing things and how oppression 429 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: looks similar for us, and not just people who identify 430 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 4: as black, just darker skinned people around the globe, because 431 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: the case systems and things like that. 432 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: What about the regards to psychology, because I remember they 433 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: gave us a psychology by. 434 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: David Myers. 435 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if I remember too much about my 436 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: psychology textbooks because my master's was in African American studies 437 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 4: and that's what's most salient. But if anything I remember 438 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: is that damn DSM the diagnostic manual. Basically it has 439 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 4: all the disorders like psychological disordument. 440 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha. 441 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: What's the moment when you realized your influence was having 442 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: real world consequences for better all words, real world consequences. 443 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, because I started during the pandemic, we was all inside, 444 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: so I didn't get to really get to see people. 445 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: But when we started to trickle back outside, and unfortunately 446 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 4: Atlanta was among the first to get back outside when 447 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: people started meeting me and just like crying, like talking 448 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: about like how either I changed their perspective on something, 449 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: or I helped heal a relationship in their family, or 450 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: even really what it was. I think I was invited 451 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: to speak somewhere at the school, and an older woman 452 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: about sixty years old, she took me to the side 453 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: and she thanked me for saying things she never got 454 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: to say when she was my age. 455 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: And that was really beautiful. 456 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was something you've never said in park a 457 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: lot temper because you knew people weren't ready for it. 458 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't think there's nothing I've said. 459 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: I say what I want to say, and sometimes it's hard, 460 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 4: sometimes it's even it's scary for me, like for instance, 461 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 4: when October seven happened, just not really being ignorant and 462 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 4: also knowing like the necessity to discuss these things in 463 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 4: the call was strong, like also with my management being 464 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: like I don't know what you should say, and I 465 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: don't know what you shouldn't say, and maybe we should 466 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: just like bow out, and also seeing other creators get 467 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: like flamed or for not saying anything at all. So 468 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: sometimes it's hard, but I don't I don't not say 469 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: the things I had a mentor tell me once. I 470 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: always pray for a tongue of clay so that I'm 471 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: speaking whatever God puts on my heart to say and 472 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: it's not coming from me. That it also helps me 473 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: feel less responsibility. 474 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 5: But yeah, have you ever said something that you I 475 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: guess would be like was say after it said, and 476 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: after you know, you get like I guess, some type 477 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: of backlash like, well maybe they weren't ready to hear this, 478 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: so I should have said that later. 479 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: No, no, no, we don't got time. Yeah, and I mean, yeah, 480 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: we just don't have time. And even if the first 481 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: time you hear me say it and you don't like 482 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 4: it and that's your introduction to it, I know it's 483 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: going to be brought up again and you've had some 484 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 4: sort of yeah, some point of reference. So whoever, whoever, 485 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 4: the they're able to get the point across from It's 486 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 4: fine because again, it's not about you agreeing with what 487 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 4: comes out of my mouth. 488 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not responsible to people in that way. 489 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: Have you ever felt like you had to like shrink 490 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: your truth to protect your peace? 491 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Not shrink my truth. But sometimes I just be quiet. Yeah, 492 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't feel the need to argue with folks. 493 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's something you think you've out grown as a creator, 494 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: even if your audience has mm. 495 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: I think early on I outgrew the need to feel 496 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: like I was always on time or in time with 497 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: the demands of social because, like I said, I just 498 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: want to be responsible with what I'm saying and give 499 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 4: myself time to research and learn about what's going on 500 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: before I say something about it. 501 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you you know everybody likes to say 502 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: for the culture, how do you define being for the 503 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: culture in a time when culture is constantly commodified. 504 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: I speak to the originators of the culture. I speak 505 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: to the heart of it, the see of it, the 506 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: ground up. I meet people where they are. Yeah, I 507 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: think as I said, Also, I think I might have 508 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: a different definition of it because not everybody agrees like 509 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: what the priorities of the culture are. But as again, 510 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: I'm interested in protecting all black bodies and speaking up 511 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 4: for all black bodies. 512 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: So that's that's how I define culture. 513 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: I like, I like the idea of people's brief I 514 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: would love to see linee in settings I'm talking to you, 515 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: like you know said right here, but I'd love to 516 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: see you in settings to where like you're debating people 517 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: in a way, not debating, because you know, you debate 518 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: your equals everybody else you teach. 519 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: But I think a lot of times on these platforms, do. 520 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: You need people who are actually speaking truth to power 521 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: and teaching folks you ever thought about like going to. 522 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: Some of those spaces. Maybe no, I'm mixing it up 523 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: on Abby Phillips show. 524 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: Or no, I mean because I mean sometimes I just 525 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of that is bating. 526 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of it is unncessary waste 527 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: of time and breath because some people don't have They 528 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: come into rooms knowing they're not going to change their mind, 529 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 4: and they're coming their rooms with misinformation as their goal 530 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: to spread. So I don't me personally, that's not my 531 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: my give. I think someone like the Conscious Lee, he's 532 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: very good at that and I let people do what 533 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: they do best. 534 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the consciously. 535 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: Yeah well, lene Vannie hosted The People's Brief every Tuesday 536 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: at nine pm on Revolt And I guess we get 537 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: parking a lot of pamper when we can. 538 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 539 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: Where they follow you at, you. 540 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 4: Can follow me everywhere at Lenavanee. You can tap into 541 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: the show on Revolt TV. You can also watch us 542 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 4: at eleven am the next day on streaming and then 543 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 4: snippets of it on YouTube. 544 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's it's the Breakfast Club. 545 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 546 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club