Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, twenty.
Speaker 2: Episode four of Daily's I Gustay production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 2: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 2: America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, January fifth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's too many that's come on, boo nah, that's way
Speaker 1: too many number.
Speaker 3: That's like buff buffer overflow error number of years. Right.
Speaker 3: If we were on like a four bit machine, we'd
Speaker 3: be done.
Speaker 1: Well. My name is Jack O'Brien aka Soakang Time. Sex
Speaker 1: is not allowed, but check out this loophole. I just
Speaker 1: read Soakang Time, put the P in the b and
Speaker 1: have all the homies jump on the bed. So Kang
Speaker 1: Time might seem strange, but you'll still get a planet
Speaker 1: when you are are dead. I know how to abstain
Speaker 1: and still bone. That is courtesy of Resik. A throwback.
Speaker 1: I think Resik sensed my displeasure that we were in
Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty four and gave me an aka
Speaker 1: from a subject we talked about. I think back in
Speaker 1: the late eighties, a little long time ago. I love you.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious how that came to you. Resik on
Speaker 1: the Discord like you're just like, oh shit, remember that
Speaker 1: story they talked about years ago? Anyways, thank you for that.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest
Speaker 1: co host hilarious, a brilliant TV writer producer. You know
Speaker 1: him from the Joses Raises podcast. It's Andrew two. I
Speaker 1: just want to take a moment to.
Speaker 3: A happy New Year to all the sun worshiping freaks
Speaker 3: in the white community. I don't know what you know,
Speaker 3: what you guys got going on, but happy New Year.
Speaker 1: I guess shippers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he freaks weird mode life forever the l A
Speaker 3: true calis Well Andrew.
Speaker 1: We are thrown to be joining our third seat by
Speaker 1: a very talented writers, stand up comedian podcast host of
Speaker 1: The Bechdel Cast, which takes down the patriarchy one movie
Speaker 1: at a time, and it is just one of the
Speaker 1: best podcasts in existence. Also happened to have a master's
Speaker 1: degree in film. The most anagrammable name in the English
Speaker 1: language such as nine tit Dracula. But when you read
Speaker 1: the name, when when you read the letters in order,
Speaker 1: it is Kaitlin Deruta, Yes.
Speaker 4: Latin dancer ut I.
Speaker 1: Danswer Uti Caitling. You were just on you're on like
Speaker 1: the last episode that we did before the break and
Speaker 1: I'm back baby, the Fuck Around episode. What a great
Speaker 1: time was that was so fun? And now, unfortunately I
Speaker 1: regret to inform you this is the photographic negative of
Speaker 1: that episode. This is the all business episode, just hard
Speaker 1: news stories one after the other, everything from images of
Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie piloting one of the planes into the twin
Speaker 1: towers to Steamboat Willie drenched income. We're covering it all, folks,
Speaker 1: all the stories that happened over the break. That's that's
Speaker 1: basically it. We're just gonna talk about how Mickey Mouse
Speaker 1: hit the public domain kind of. And then there's a
Speaker 1: controversy bruin in the world of socks, socks or no
Speaker 1: socks in bed. I've been told this is I don't know,
Speaker 1: I wear socks about. I'm just gonna come out and
Speaker 1: say it, and I've been told that is unacceptable. But yeah, excited,
Speaker 1: I knew. I like everybody sees to it's wild. I
Speaker 1: just there's like this op edge in the Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal or something in the headline was like, if you
Speaker 1: sleep in socks, you're a psychopath. Health kicks up controversy
Speaker 1: and okay, I was like, wow, that's that's so aggressive,
Speaker 1: right two people, and they were all like, nope, it
Speaker 1: is correct. It is in fact, scientifically accurate. You need
Speaker 1: to get out of it.
Speaker 4: Well, not when you do it my way. I have
Speaker 4: a very particular sock regiment.
Speaker 1: I want to hear this. Oh boy jumped the socks,
Speaker 1: jump jump the socks, all of that plenty more. But first, Kaylin,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4: I googled Wolf of Wall Street quaylude scene, yes, because yes, yes.
Speaker 1: We know it. We love it.
Speaker 4: I am editing this little promo video to plug the
Speaker 4: Bechdel Cast tour the Jamie Loftus and I are going
Speaker 4: on in early February, so zeitgang, who's also a Bechtel head,
Speaker 4: grab your tickets. But anyway, so I'm like editing this
Speaker 4: silly little promo video and it's mostly a Barbie tour.
Speaker 4: We are mostly covering the Barbie movie, but there's one
Speaker 4: show where we were also doing a Wolf of Wall
Speaker 4: Street thing because.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know what movie cares?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's obviously the CROs the the thing.
Speaker 4: But everyone's like why wouldn't you do, Oppenheimer? And I'm like,
Speaker 4: because I was asleep during most of those, I don't
Speaker 4: know what want it again? So we're doing Wolf of
Speaker 4: Wall Street. So I was just like, I was just
Speaker 4: finding little images to include in this, and I was like, ooh,
Speaker 4: that quaylude scenes pretty good. Yeah, googled that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but notice that Oppenheimer barely does any
Speaker 1: quayludes in that movie referenced like when he does, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's I can't imagine he did zero quaaludes during the
Speaker 1: events of the.
Speaker 4: Film on screen where the on screen representation.
Speaker 1: Show don't tell.
Speaker 3: Us really felt like that's the only substance legal or otherwise.
Speaker 1: That just like completely can you get coludes anymore?
Speaker 3: You can get a lot of shit that is illegal,
Speaker 3: even you can't get coludes. Where did thees you tried them?
Speaker 1: No? I want to Oh yeah, yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: mean that is the premise of the scene in Wolf
Speaker 1: Wall Street, right that they are like they have five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like old, so they don't know how effective
Speaker 4: they're going to be, and.
Speaker 1: They keep taking them. They're like these are busted. And
Speaker 1: then very much the experience that anybody who's taken too
Speaker 1: many edibles has had in recent years. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the idea. I feel like they give a passing explanation
Speaker 1: about where where the coludes went, but it was something
Speaker 1: like that. I think they were made pharmaceutically at one point,
Speaker 1: and then they may be legal. But it does seem
Speaker 1: like there's probably you know, as drug has become more advanced,
Speaker 1: there should be a market there.
Speaker 3: A minimum and artisanal market for Come on, you.
Speaker 1: Want to at least try it?
Speaker 3: Try yeahs and Hell's Angels are back as a vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Hell's Angels mainly use them to
Speaker 1: counterbalance all the speed that they were on this amount. Well,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna have to fall asleep eventually. Why don't we
Speaker 1: figure out something to counterbalance all this trucker speed that
Speaker 1: we distributing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wait, what is speed? Is speed?
Speaker 1: Coke?
Speaker 4: Are they the same thing? Are they two different?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: It's amphetamines pretty similar, very similar. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, so it is breaking bad cocaine is I
Speaker 3: assume Wolf of Alls three?
Speaker 4: Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're getting into horny territory in these next
Speaker 4: few Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, folks, it's the first week of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to set a precedent. Horn My god, I
Speaker 4: mean this isn't particularly horny, but these are about dating.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking giving a lot of thought.
Speaker 1: So opp you're saying not.
Speaker 4: When you date like me, I have a very specific
Speaker 4: sock regiment, and I have a very specific dating regiment,
Speaker 4: and it's all horning. Okay, overrated is height as a
Speaker 4: dating criteria. I'm talking specifically about men because so if
Speaker 4: you go, if you're on the apps, there is there
Speaker 4: are a lot of men who just put their height
Speaker 4: as the only thing in their profile because they've been
Speaker 4: conditioned to think that that's like the most important thing
Speaker 4: about them.
Speaker 1: This is enough, how the cells of my body stuck
Speaker 1: up to That's enough of that me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my personality in its entirety. So it's very frustrating.
Speaker 4: And I know that they're doing this because of like
Speaker 4: a you know, a societal pressure, a beauty standard, blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. But I find it very frustrating not only
Speaker 4: that that beauty standard has become so prominent, but that
Speaker 4: men are responding to it by being like, well, you
Speaker 4: don't need to know anything about me aside from my height.
Speaker 1: I also feel like somebody who puts that much emphasis
Speaker 1: on their own height is probably more likely to lie
Speaker 1: about their height, right, Like he issues going on?
Speaker 3: But is it kind of it feels like what you're
Speaker 3: saying though, it's it is like a self regulating system,
Speaker 3: right because like people who put that, actually that.
Speaker 1: Is the only thing that is interesting about I mean, that's.
Speaker 4: True, they're kind of perpetuating this psychle.
Speaker 1: So but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just feel like you don't you don't want to
Speaker 3: and you don't want to click on those people and
Speaker 3: swipe on those folks, and you know that it's doing
Speaker 3: its job both ways. If someone only loves height and
Speaker 3: if someone recognizes that that's idiotic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about it, unless there wembing Yama. Are they
Speaker 1: victor wembing Yama? Are they seven foot four? And it
Speaker 1: is like the main thing about them that you would
Speaker 1: have to deal with on a dating basis is like this.
Speaker 1: We can't go most places. I'm way too.
Speaker 4: I won't fit through the doorway.
Speaker 1: Can't sit in a norm car.
Speaker 4: Yes, that would make sense, but it is it's just
Speaker 4: people who are like I'm five eleven or whatever.
Speaker 1: I That's why problem is you're like I am the
Speaker 1: average height and that's all you need and.
Speaker 4: That's all you need to know. And Andrew, You're right
Speaker 4: like this, like this should be like a weeding out process,
Speaker 4: except that I would say in like eighty percent of
Speaker 4: profiles and I like, yes, I'm I'm like swiping left
Speaker 4: on like ninety nine point nine percent of people. But like,
Speaker 4: it's just so prevalent for men to have just their
Speaker 4: height or like one of three things they list about
Speaker 4: themselves is their height, and I think it's stinks.
Speaker 1: We'll not stand for it, yeah, won't. That's terrible that
Speaker 1: people do this. Do they hold a coin next to
Speaker 1: them for like the yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have just a tiny little quarter and they're like,
Speaker 4: I'm so much taller.
Speaker 3: Than this, yeah, which then does open up a market
Speaker 3: for fake not to scale, like measuring tape in your
Speaker 3: yard sticks or whatever that you hold up next to
Speaker 3: yourself or your dating profile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, let's get on this.
Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, all right, this is an enterprise if
Speaker 4: I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Justin, You're gonna have to cut out the next thirty
Speaker 1: minutes while we scheme this doesness plan and we're back
Speaker 1: and we're about to be rich as fun. Wow. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Caitlin?
Speaker 4: Okay, so what I think is underrated is being solo poly.
Speaker 4: So if anyone's not familiar, it's a type of polyamory
Speaker 4: or ethical non monogamy where you're just kind of single,
Speaker 4: your main relationship is with yourself, but you also have
Speaker 4: so many lovers. Great, it's the best of all the worlds,
Speaker 4: so many and it's something I've been exploring in recent
Speaker 4: years and I've never been happier.
Speaker 1: I would say, definitely sounds like the best one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think sounds like a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying solo POLLI like that that
Speaker 1: was like negative Nelly, solo Polly.
Speaker 4: Oh, not solo poly pocket Okay, yeah, solo polyamory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would.
Speaker 4: They sound like they might be contradictory because it's like,
Speaker 4: how can you have many lovers? But also, yeah, be solo,
Speaker 4: but we make it work.
Speaker 1: And when you become solo poly, does that give you
Speaker 1: the magical power that you now possessed to use lover
Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't make me cringe because you're yeah,
Speaker 1: you can, you can do it. Now there there's I've
Speaker 1: met like a handful of people who can be like
Speaker 1: I've taken a lover, and I'm just like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's how you talk, and that is how you should talk.
Speaker 4: There's a great line to that effect in the movie
Speaker 4: American Fiction, which I will also sing the praises of
Speaker 4: later on as a piece of media I've been enjoying.
Speaker 4: But there's a great line where Jeffrey Wright's character is like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm so grossed out by the fact that you've just
Speaker 4: told me you've taken a lover. But when your solo poly,
Speaker 4: you get to say it, and it can say yeah.
Speaker 4: I also like to say that I have a harem
Speaker 4: of himbos.
Speaker 1: There you gom h.
Speaker 4: That's pretty accurate to my life.
Speaker 1: Do they know their himbos?
Speaker 4: I don't think they know that I call them that. Okay,
Speaker 4: I think that they.
Speaker 3: They think it's just their little secret and they always yeah.
Speaker 3: I will say the over or underratedness of this, this
Speaker 3: feels like a solo poly is a thing where the
Speaker 3: rating system depends on your original perspective so highly. Because
Speaker 3: I can't help but notice that Jack was like, that
Speaker 3: sounds great, It's pretty good, right, I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's rating. It's not underrated for him because it's.
Speaker 4: I guess I put it in the underrated classic almost
Speaker 4: a class agory.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing now category with such confidence, class
Speaker 1: agory is now a.
Speaker 4: Thing, thank you, thank you so classification slash category slash
Speaker 4: class agory. I put it there because I mean, most
Speaker 4: people you know, follow like a pretty traditional like you know,
Speaker 4: just monogamy. I have one partner, I have one person.
Speaker 4: That's what they're seeking, that's what they have, you know whatever.
Speaker 4: But I've been sort of just examining that as a
Speaker 4: structure as an expectation in society, and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I don't think that is for me.
Speaker 4: And just like, i mean, relationship anarchy in general is
Speaker 4: something I've been exploring, and I'm just like, yeah, this,
Speaker 4: this is cool. This is not enough people know about
Speaker 4: it or are doing it. Yeah, And obviously, like a
Speaker 4: very important thing about it is to like be very up.
Speaker 1: Very people upfront. So I was gonna say, there are
Speaker 1: plenty of fuck boys in the world who are like,
Speaker 1: this is actually secretly what I do, but no one
Speaker 1: needs to know about it. Instead, I pretend I love
Speaker 1: everyone deeply and we are soulmates, right. Amazing, this just
Speaker 1: in Classic Glory has been shortlisted for the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four Words of the Year Mirriam Webster Dictionary.
Speaker 4: So oh, I didn't even make it up.
Speaker 1: Now you did, and that's how quick it became. You
Speaker 1: did it just now shortlisted. Awesome, amazing. Well, we are
Speaker 1: going to take a quick break and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back and talk about drums of Mickey Mouse doing
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. We'll be right back and we're back,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean, I don't know they're like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I've seen seen all
Speaker 1: the ones like that. You know, it's so basically SB
Speaker 1: Dubbs as we've all started calling Steamboat Willie, who is
Speaker 1: the unmistakable ancestor of Mickey Mouse and descendant of minstrel cartoons.
Speaker 1: But that's for another time, but you can look at
Speaker 1: the similarities. There's a lot. But yeah, Steamboat Willie has
Speaker 1: hit the big public domain in the sky fring the
Speaker 1: Internet to do its best slash worst and you know,
Speaker 1: doing nine to eleven and being covered and come we're
Speaker 1: like that was like, I bet that's what the Internet's
Speaker 1: going to do. And they did that. There's also somewhere
Speaker 1: where he has his dick out, also to be expected,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. But like, so first of all,
Speaker 1: this is like people will be quick to point out,
Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie has some differences from modern Mickey They redesigned
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse for nineteen forty Sorcerer's Apprentice. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: like have to wait another I don't. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say like twenty years, but no, that's actually less than that,
Speaker 1: like yeah, ten years for actual like modern Mickey Mouse
Speaker 1: to be covered and come.
Speaker 4: But I mean, will the world make it that long?
Speaker 1: Let's see, that is the question. Well, to be to
Speaker 1: be covered and calm, not as parody, right, exactly, yes, exactly, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean people were already free to do this. It's
Speaker 1: just a celebration of like, no, it's legal. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: if you want to know the difference between Steamboat Willie
Speaker 1: and Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse has like big big eyes
Speaker 1: with like black pupils, you know, like the standard Disney
Speaker 1: like big eyed like kind of thing that's based on babies,
Speaker 1: Like they were like, oh, babies have big eyes, and
Speaker 1: that appeals to something inherent in humans, like we are
Speaker 1: genetically designed to not want to kill babies, and so
Speaker 1: like we like, we like them with the big eyes,
Speaker 1: whereas Steamboat willie to quote Quinte speech, and Jaws has
Speaker 1: got lifeless eyes, black eyes like a doll's eyes. When
Speaker 1: he comes at you, he doesn't seem to be living
Speaker 1: until he bites you. And those black guys roll over white. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've said this story here, and maybe
Speaker 3: I've never said it at all, but the maddest I
Speaker 3: forgot when I was writing on Robot Chicken is I
Speaker 3: pitched a sketch that made up pretty far that was
Speaker 3: about Funko pops where every time you turned back it
Speaker 3: was like a haunted house kind of deal, and every
Speaker 3: time they turned back to the funk Co pop, its
Speaker 3: eyes would be that like beady black eye would be
Speaker 3: ten percent bigger until swallowed the screen, and they did.
Speaker 3: He didn't let me do the sketch, and I'm so
Speaker 3: mad about it still, oh many right, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is the first big character to hit
Speaker 1: the public domain in a while, which I hadn't realized.
Speaker 1: But Sonny Bono apparently Sonny Bono or Bono Bono, right,
Speaker 1: I've just been.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because Bono is the YouTube guy. Yea, Bono
Speaker 4: is the sunny guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as the famous rhyme says.
Speaker 3: From the Beavis and butt Head version of I Got
Speaker 3: You Babe with share right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of the main thing he's known for,
Speaker 1: other than dying in a ski accident. But he also
Speaker 1: was a So he was like TV guy and then
Speaker 1: became politician guy, and in nineteen ninety nine he's passed
Speaker 1: a loss suspending things from hitting the public domain for
Speaker 1: twenty years for reasons having to do with corporations and
Speaker 1: rich people enjoying money. Whatever. The justification at the time
Speaker 1: was that seems to be that they were lobbied by
Speaker 1: Disney and like George Gershwin's estate, and there's just everyone
Speaker 1: was basically like politics in the nineties really got away
Speaker 1: with a ton of shit because like they just had
Speaker 1: the world or at least like the mainstream media convinced
Speaker 1: that anywhere anyone making money was good for the country
Speaker 1: because quote the economy, like, why not keep it private
Speaker 1: so people can continue to make money for Disney and
Speaker 1: the wealthy who can invest it back into Wall Street
Speaker 1: and Wall Street is scoreboard for economy.
Speaker 4: Okay, so they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thankfully that's all changed.
Speaker 4: Now, so it's no different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's we just have social media to point it
Speaker 1: out it's not true. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So wait, they were trying, they were lobbying to make
Speaker 4: it so to like delay things going into into the
Speaker 4: by twenty years so it could stay private so they
Speaker 4: could keep profiting. Yeah, okay o neat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing that is like so funny. It's
Speaker 3: like to imagine them being like, you know, for for
Speaker 3: some kind of vague moral or economic reason, this must happen,
Speaker 3: and then just the finding the line of twenty years,
Speaker 3: like if this is important, why not forever like or what?
Speaker 3: Just like somehow they were like, oh, twenty twenty is good.
Speaker 3: Twenty is good. We'll be rich enough that will never come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just be incredibly rich by that time. So
Speaker 1: there have been NFTs because people are still falling for that.
Speaker 1: Apparently Mickey Mouse cryptocurrencies those are somehow different. A glut
Speaker 1: of AI generated images featuring the old Mickey doing drugs
Speaker 1: or slathered and seemen previously mentioned. Yeah, kailudes might be interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that the kids don't know though, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, copyright, I wonder if the copyright on the name
Speaker 3: on the presumably brand name Kaylude is probably still in
Speaker 3: a fact, whereas Mickey you get sued by like Pfizer
Speaker 3: or whatever, still holds that pat.
Speaker 1: Was Quaylude the name, brand, brand, street name for that drug.
Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, was that the Kleenex? Look at us.
Speaker 4: There's no spell very strangely, which makes me.
Speaker 1: Think that it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the chemical name, and it's not like
Speaker 3: some ship that you just come up with.
Speaker 4: The chemical name is messquey.
Speaker 1: Loan, Okay, pretty close.
Speaker 4: It's a hypnotic sedative. I didn't for some reason, I
Speaker 4: thought it was an upper Okay. Oh, no, must be
Speaker 4: the the brand name.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, it's the aspirin. Yeah it's yeah, there's it's. Oh.
Speaker 1: I love this. I love sewing back lodes. Bring back
Speaker 1: Ludes is our message in twenty twenty four. But I
Speaker 1: mean it's understanding, like there's sort of a surprise and
Speaker 1: effect happening here where people are going particularly hard on
Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie because Disney has like famously been fighting this
Speaker 1: moment for decades, like they called the Sonny Bono thing.
Speaker 1: I think the Mickey Mouse Saver or some some shit
Speaker 1: like the Mickey Mouse Law or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like people, if the Disney Corporation is in
Speaker 3: danger of not making as money as much money as
Speaker 3: I wanted, put out a Mickey alert and it all
Speaker 3: goes to our phones and we all like have to
Speaker 3: protect the copyright of Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 1: That's the Mickey Mouse Protection Act is what is called.
Speaker 1: So predictably, just hours after Mickey entered the public domain,
Speaker 1: we got a trailer for a horror movie in which
Speaker 1: a guy in a Mickey Mouse mask is like a
Speaker 1: knife wielding serial killer.
Speaker 4: And didn't they just do this with Winnie the Pooh also.
Speaker 1: And also the mask looks like shit, like the Winning
Speaker 1: the Pooh one, Like for some reason, they just they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to use it, but you have to like
Speaker 1: make it out of a paper bag in like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Looks like total ship. Yeah, it's also set in a
Speaker 1: Chucky Cheese esque restaurant because of this excess of five
Speaker 1: knife Freddy.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's yeah, five knife Freddy. Is that is
Speaker 4: that you doing a joke?
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? That's what we called it. I think
Speaker 1: it's actually when you're your co host on the Bechdel Cast,
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus was on We were a little just outed.
Speaker 4: Myself as someone who didn't listen to that.
Speaker 1: Didn't listen to your own. I listened to everything Miles
Speaker 1: has ever been on it, including phone calls that he
Speaker 1: doesn't know I'm listening to.
Speaker 3: You have like a secret baby monitor in his house
Speaker 3: just for you.
Speaker 1: That's right, And sometimes I whisper things while he's asleep,
Speaker 1: just plant incept ideas. But yeah, it's five nights at Freddy's.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Caitlin.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't like
Speaker 4: a classicory google.
Speaker 1: Right right, could could easily be, but so just the
Speaker 1: least original original film ever proposed.
Speaker 3: The thing that bums me out about these is like
Speaker 3: like they had it ready to go.
Speaker 1: It's like so uncreative. I just wish some some just.
Speaker 3: Like like this. The creativity is like shockingly low for this,
Speaker 3: for this whole like all of it, the whole class
Speaker 3: of these may Yeah, it's really it just bums me out.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I want something funnier. I guess, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: I think funny would be too close to so like
Speaker 1: none of this is really legal, like you Disney could
Speaker 1: like sue any one of these that they wanted to
Speaker 1: out of existence. It's just a gamble like whether that
Speaker 1: draws attention to it or not.
Speaker 3: You know, that was a thing that I learned when
Speaker 3: I worked at Comedy Central many years ago, that like
Speaker 3: I it was outside of it, but it was maybe
Speaker 3: this is a private conversation with not soci're repeating but
Speaker 3: doesn't matter that much. But like, you know, I was
Speaker 3: told that often because you like kind of have the
Speaker 3: impression like, oh, you can't use Coca Cola in your things,
Speaker 3: so you got to use this thing because of copyright
Speaker 3: or whatever. And it's rarely that, Like it's usually just
Speaker 3: that like the business affairs and ad salespeople would like
Speaker 3: to get Coca Cola as a sponsor pay them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you are free, but it has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with the like base legality of like can
Speaker 3: you use it?
Speaker 1: And it's such a like detraction from the quality of movies.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've told us that before, but
Speaker 1: it's like so interesting to me because it's such a
Speaker 1: like if you could just like it takes you out
Speaker 1: of the movie so much to have people drinking from
Speaker 1: a can that is like yeah, says soda on it
Speaker 1: crackle cola, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: To me the example I was given, I don't remember
Speaker 3: who said this, but like you just can't like defame
Speaker 3: the product, like you can't have someone drink a coke
Speaker 3: drop dead from a heart attack and then all the
Speaker 3: characters say, that's what always happens when you drink.
Speaker 4: So as long as you're not like slandering the brand,
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, like quay Lude for example.
Speaker 1: Right, which we've always said on the show, is very
Speaker 1: good for you. It's like taking your vitamins in the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, you know.
Speaker 3: I wonder just so you can't you can't misrepers that
Speaker 3: you can't have coludes and just be like these get
Speaker 3: me high with no consequences, like I just did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I was an extra on a movie set one time,
Speaker 4: Huge Brag. It was a movie that never got a
Speaker 4: theatrical release, but Emma Roberts was in it, and it
Speaker 4: was about a high school basketball team. And I was
Speaker 4: in this like cafeteria scene where there were vending machines
Speaker 4: in the shot. But originally the vending machines I think
Speaker 4: were pepsi And then they brought the like production brought
Speaker 4: in basically like huge stickers that said Coca Cola on
Speaker 4: them to place them over they though to make it
Speaker 4: seem like, yes, a Coca Cola machine.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly why they did that, if that
Speaker 4: was some sort of like agreement with Cola or I
Speaker 4: don't or if they were like, we want money from
Speaker 4: Coca Cola but not PEPSI. I don't. I don't know
Speaker 4: enough about it, but I just found that fascinating that
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, you like specifically brought in stickers
Speaker 4: to like make to change what this product would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the director is just like, no, these people have cocina.
Speaker 1: They would never No, it's not this is real. This
Speaker 1: is taking me out. PEPSI.
Speaker 3: Emma Roberts the fuck out.
Speaker 4: Of here does not track.
Speaker 1: Emma Roberts does not exist in a universe alongside PEPSI
Speaker 1: like that. That doesn't It's like, you can't put Michael
Speaker 1: Douglas in a movie set in the past. You can't
Speaker 1: put Emma Roberts in a movie in which there's right,
Speaker 1: It doesn't make it.
Speaker 3: Even if he was in Like if if Michael Douglas
Speaker 3: was in a period piece, you'd still need to add
Speaker 3: minimum put like a BlackBerry in his hand.
Speaker 1: He doesn't love like that was a period. No. That.
Speaker 1: So William Goldman, the screenwriter has he wrote Princess Bride,
Speaker 1: and he has like what one of his books on screenwriting,
Speaker 1: I forget which one it is. He talks about how
Speaker 1: his theory for why Ghost in the Darkness I think
Speaker 1: is the movie it's like Jaws, but a lion in
Speaker 1: Africa that is like killing everybody. And then there's like
Speaker 1: it's the eighteen hundreds, I think, and they're like the
Speaker 1: quint character is this like stoic lion hunter played by
Speaker 1: Michael Douglas, And everyone heading into the movie movie's release
Speaker 1: was like this is a sure thing, like we have
Speaker 1: the next Jaws. And then it like tanked. And his
Speaker 1: theory for why it tanked is that Michael Douglas just
Speaker 1: cannot exist in like a movie that takes place outside
Speaker 1: of like after the Earth, before the nineteen eighties, Like
Speaker 1: he just like needs to be a horny businessman like that.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of unsettling to even just imagine Michael
Speaker 3: Douglas in the same room as an animal or in
Speaker 3: the same like right, so like like anything that isn't Yeah,
Speaker 3: he tried it.
Speaker 1: And fatal attraction. Look what happened to that rabbit? Jesus Anyways,
Speaker 1: like that, multiple movies actually hit on the same like
Speaker 1: multiple trailers dropped or I guess this one didn't have
Speaker 1: a full trailer. But there's like a Whore, an animated
Speaker 1: horror movie where Mickey Mouse will torment a group of
Speaker 1: unsuspecting faery passengers. So they're like, steamboat will what's the
Speaker 1: first thing we all think about with Mickey Mouse that
Speaker 1: he was on that dang steamboat a long time ago. Well,
Speaker 1: what this movie presupposes is he's still on that steamboat
Speaker 1: and he's angry. But like so that winn the movie exactly,
Speaker 1: like does he do it in like weird like animation,
Speaker 1: like like giving looks to the camera, like whistling out
Speaker 1: of the side of his mouth as he's like no.
Speaker 3: Kind of lightfle up double knee bounce per step.
Speaker 1: Right, and that is how I walk Canonically, I walk
Speaker 1: into a double knee bounce everywhere I go. But that
Speaker 1: shitty winning the Pooh movie, Caitlin, you referenced that is
Speaker 1: the first in the class. This classic wory of movie
Speaker 1: was made for one hundred thousand dollars, like evidently, like
Speaker 1: every one of the dollars not spent over that is
Speaker 1: on screen, Like they're like, yeah, no, that's just a
Speaker 1: dude in a mask that like you didn't even bother
Speaker 1: to get the best mask for this job. Whoa. And
Speaker 1: that movie made five point two million dollars because people
Speaker 1: were just like mad at it, and so it got
Speaker 1: passed around and like the director of one of these
Speaker 1: slasher Mickey Mouse slasher movies, this is the direct quote.
Speaker 1: We actually love the negative feedback because you know, it
Speaker 1: just draws more interest. There seems to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a market for people that want to hate this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it doesn't matter just if you watch
Speaker 1: the movie, if you pay to watch the movie, then yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all we want. Said the director of art Off
Speaker 1: about that. Give a fuck? What do you Why are
Speaker 1: you talking to me? None of this matters, just so out,
Speaker 1: so nihilistic. There is like a thing that I've been
Speaker 1: noticing just as a trend across media where we no
Speaker 1: longer distinguish between Like people were talking about how viral
Speaker 1: one of those Israeli comedy sketches went, you know the
Speaker 1: ones that like I guess Brent Gellman was in one
Speaker 1: of them and Michael Raviofort but they're just like super offensive,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and people were like it's gone viral. These
Speaker 1: things are like it's like no people, people aren't like
Speaker 1: laughing and passing it around. Everyone's like horrified at this thing.
Speaker 1: But there there just does seem to be a way
Speaker 1: that we're just like flattening it out. And it's just
Speaker 1: like all attention is not only does it like work,
Speaker 1: but it's just evaluated the same is It's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a success. Shamelessly mask off. We don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck unless it's a shitty Mickey Mouse mask Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it isn't. It isn't. It's like you know
Speaker 1: the like, oh I like the negative press.
Speaker 3: Actually, like it's like that's like that is like the
Speaker 3: fifth emotion you have.
Speaker 1: After like you know, I know it's a budget, it's
Speaker 1: kind of goofy, but like maybe this is gonna.
Speaker 3: Be good and like no, okay, but like call you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like that that is also a type
Speaker 3: of just hope. Yeah, I guess right, Like it's not untrue,
Speaker 3: but it's also like, you know, I'm positive this person's
Speaker 3: dream wasn't to cynically snatch. I mean, admittedly a decent
Speaker 3: amount of money, but not a good Hollywood you know,
Speaker 3: favorite Hollywood director amount of money from this enterprise. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they're still disappointed.
Speaker 1: The way I read it was like he's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's great, but it could be. He said this with
Speaker 1: like a glassy, far off gaze in his eye, you know,
Speaker 1: but he's just like feeling his all of his life's
Speaker 1: dreams dry up. Yeah it's still dark. Make me feel better.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still money. I guess we do enjoy money,
Speaker 3: I suppose.
Speaker 4: But it is the thing of like when people are like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I made it bad on purpose, then that's I was,
Speaker 4: and that was intentional, and it's part of the commentary.
Speaker 4: And it's like, no, you didn't. You tried your hardest
Speaker 4: and it was bad, right, And that's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. You're bad. It's okay be bad. There's
Speaker 1: there's so many people in the world. You're one of
Speaker 1: the bad ones. It's okay.
Speaker 3: At least you have money.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are bad don't get money. At
Speaker 1: least you can do the job that your boss has
Speaker 1: asked you to do. That's pretty good. That counts for something, Buddy,
Speaker 1: You're gonna Disney can still like totally prevent people from
Speaker 1: using their early version of Mickey Mouse on consumer products,
Speaker 1: like the way that people use logos. It's like that
Speaker 1: it the closer you look at this, the harder it
Speaker 1: is to distinguish, like what actually changed, because Disney could
Speaker 1: still sue you out of existence. I think the thing
Speaker 1: that changed is that, like a horror movie, there's no
Speaker 1: way that anyone would confuse that with being something that
Speaker 1: Disney was putting out. And so this is like the same. Legally,
Speaker 1: this is even though it on its surface seems like
Speaker 1: the most subversive thing to do, it's actually legally the
Speaker 1: safest thing to do because it's the most evidently like satirical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing is it's like all all
Speaker 3: this ever has done. This shit is like slightly changed
Speaker 3: the risk calculus for litigation, you know, with a slight
Speaker 3: change in one portion of the copyright law. But you
Speaker 3: know other shit is blah blah blah, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it makes it slightly more of a pain in the
Speaker 3: ass for them, Like it gives your lawyers one more
Speaker 3: paper they can file that then gets swatted down by
Speaker 3: the Disney lawyers. Yeah yeah, yeah, that does cost Disney money.
Speaker 3: That costs the billable hours. But like we'll get shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah they don't. They don't give a fuck. They will
Speaker 3: spend you into the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the most famous examples of Disney threatening
Speaker 1: legal action over the use of Mickey Mouse wasn't for
Speaker 1: a scathing parody, and in fact, there is like there
Speaker 1: is a short film in which Mickey Mouse is sent
Speaker 1: to the Vietnam War and shot and killed immediately after
Speaker 1: getting off the transport. And they did not sue that
Speaker 1: they were because they were like, oh, that would just
Speaker 1: draw attention to this. So that came out in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight and they were just like, yeah, go knock
Speaker 1: yourself out. But they did sue three daycares that had
Speaker 1: unlacensed Disney murals. Yeah yeah, yeah, because that.
Speaker 3: Could be seen as like over Disneyland, Yes, Jaycare is
Speaker 3: Disney branded.
Speaker 1: That's our end game, you guys. We will take all
Speaker 1: of your children into underground bunker with their characters painted
Speaker 1: all over it. That's not for you to use. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we're gonna come
Speaker 1: back and talk about the controversy that everybody's waiting to
Speaker 1: hear about whether you wear socks in bed. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back and we're back, And yeah, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: there's a Wall Street Journal article, if you sleep in socks,
Speaker 1: You're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up controversy if you
Speaker 1: sleep in socks, You're a psychopaths and quotes, so it's
Speaker 1: quoting one of the sources from this article, but it's
Speaker 1: this is like one of those articles that mainstream institutions
Speaker 1: do sometimes where they you can tell like they are
Speaker 1: having fun or they're trying to communicate the idea that
Speaker 1: they're having fun, and there's like it's full of just
Speaker 1: shitty puns. So brought it to my attention. I started
Speaker 1: like googling around, like am I weird for wearing socks
Speaker 1: in bed? And yes, very fucking weird. People are not.
Speaker 1: Like there's a Reddit thread that is all about this,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's full of like aggressive opinions on
Speaker 1: both sides. But like the percentage of people who responded
Speaker 1: and said they wear socks is like between five and
Speaker 1: twenty percent of people wear socks and bed. Everybody else
Speaker 1: is like what like when I ask people there horrified
Speaker 1: at the idea that somebody would wear socks and bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sleep specialists. They think it's a good
Speaker 1: idea because they apparently, if you keep your feet warm,
Speaker 1: then your body has to work less hard at like
Speaker 1: warming them up, and so it actually keeps your body
Speaker 1: temperature lower to have socks on your feet somehow your.
Speaker 3: Body, okay, because the whole rest of your body.
Speaker 1: Is like working to keep your feet from freezing off
Speaker 1: or someone. Okay, okay, seems like bullshit, But I don't
Speaker 1: know why, especially with this being such a wildly unpopular take.
Speaker 1: I don't know why sleep experts would be bring this
Speaker 1: up other than it's the heat marketing that we talked
Speaker 1: about before.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, well I'm ready to disclose my habit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, can we get a little drunk.
Speaker 1: I want to hear here, like like the little they use,
Speaker 1: the little tippitty thing they used before, like they reveal
Speaker 1: in deal or no deal, what's inside the briefcase?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, put that sound effect in and okay,
Speaker 4: this is not this is the dicloimactic. I will wear
Speaker 4: socks to bed in the winter when it's cold, cold,
Speaker 4: and I want to say form, but oh my god,
Speaker 4: the crowd are losing their.
Speaker 1: Fucking ten large that that was gonna be your answer.
Speaker 4: But they are socks that are like my specific bed socks.
Speaker 4: I will not wear them around the rest of my apartment.
Speaker 4: I would never like put them in shoes and go
Speaker 4: out and then like also then wear those into bed.
Speaker 4: Anyone who like goes about their days in their dirty
Speaker 4: socks and then and then wears those same socks to bed.
Speaker 4: I do believe that those are well, you just turned.
Speaker 1: Into a Southern Belt leg hon now you see. I
Speaker 1: do believe that those people are well. Yeah, that One
Speaker 1: of the articles I found was debunking or like you know,
Speaker 1: dismissive of sock wearing in bed based on the idea
Speaker 1: that like we're just coming from the gym in sweaty
Speaker 1: socks and like popping into bed. It's like, no, what
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like we don't have one pair of socks.
Speaker 1: Like the point is that they're like dry, clean night
Speaker 1: socks that you put on after you take a shower.
Speaker 3: Yes, here's my my question for both of you freaks, though,
Speaker 3: did you is this behavior that was like acquired or
Speaker 3: did you never?
Speaker 1: Have you ever?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you've ever, but did you ever,
Speaker 3: like on a regular basis sleep without socks and make
Speaker 3: make a decision to be like I'm a socksman or.
Speaker 1: Socks on, and I was.
Speaker 3: Both inappropriated and just flowed off my dog. But you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like, has it always been socks?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: No more or less? So I actually there is. So
Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting to me about this is that
Speaker 1: there really seems to be a broad like propagandistic push
Speaker 1: against wearing socks in bed, like I want. My mom
Speaker 1: told me like growing up about the scariest nightmare she
Speaker 1: ever had and blamed it on wearing socks to bed. Well,
Speaker 1: she was like I and I think it was because
Speaker 1: I wore socks to bed and that's and.
Speaker 4: She was trying to scare you out of that.
Speaker 1: I guess, like it's but it's just like the Reddit
Speaker 1: thread like has somebody like that, People are like I
Speaker 1: physically recoil at the thought of wearing socks while asleep.
Speaker 1: I think sleeping with socks on feels grotesque asleep with
Speaker 1: socks when I'm too drunk to take them off, And honestly,
Speaker 1: waking up with socks on is worse than the hangover,
Speaker 1: that that person is going to bed with dirty socks on.
Speaker 1: And then somebody else wrote one of sock sleepers are
Speaker 1: serial killers? True stat that I did not just make
Speaker 1: up on the spot, and Andrew, you agree that is true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one, I I will just say, I have
Speaker 3: never thought about it. I just reflexively like, don't like
Speaker 3: like having socks on when I sleep.
Speaker 4: I have a few counter points. Yeah, one is.
Speaker 1: You do and too.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, socks can be gross and can become gross,
Speaker 4: but also so our feet. And if I was like
Speaker 4: in bed with someone who had gross feet and they
Speaker 4: were like rubbing up against me and like they hadn't
Speaker 4: clipped their toenails, and like recently, that to me would
Speaker 4: be grosser than wearing socks to bed. Second counter point,
Speaker 4: I run very cold. I am always chilly. Maybe that's it,
Speaker 4: and I if I and like I'm also I have
Speaker 4: like pretty bad insomnia, and so conditions need to be
Speaker 4: like absolutely perfect for me to sleep. It has to be,
Speaker 4: you know, not too noisy. The bed has to be comfortable,
Speaker 4: My anxiety needs to be at a manageable level. I
Speaker 4: need to be the right temperature, and usually my feet
Speaker 4: are too cold without socks, especially you know, in the
Speaker 4: colder months, So I like will lay awake all night
Speaker 4: long if I if I if my feet are too
Speaker 4: cold because I'm not wearing socks.
Speaker 1: So feet and fingers are the only parts of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm cold. Everything else about me runs super hot.
Speaker 1: But yeah that's the case. Yeah, I should, I should
Speaker 1: mention it. I also am completely nude other than the
Speaker 1: socks when.
Speaker 3: I just yeah, just three socks on.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: That reminded me of that Flight of the Concord song
Speaker 4: business socks, which reminds me of I think a more
Speaker 4: a more relevant conversation here is if you wear socks
Speaker 4: during sex, Yeah, that is psychopathic behavior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you also have the garters on because
Speaker 1: you don't want your socks down having sex, so you
Speaker 1: want to keep your sock guarters on around your knees.
Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie's back, steamboat Willie fucks with sock garters.
Speaker 4: It's out and his socks are his socks are up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also like sleep on my face,
Speaker 1: so I feel like maybe I think I have like
Speaker 1: reverse claustrophobia, like I need to like because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of what people need to be I need
Speaker 1: to be like smart. Yeah like that. I think what
Speaker 1: a lot of people are responding to when I read
Speaker 1: their negative responses, like get the ship off of.
Speaker 3: Me, like I don't want anything, like, you know, I
Speaker 3: think that's actually as we're talking, I think in a vacuum,
Speaker 3: like I will take the socks off in my sleep,
Speaker 3: like if they're on, Like if in the event that
Speaker 3: I have, for instance, like falling asleep, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: sooner than I anticipated for whatever, you know, chemically induced reason.
Speaker 4: We're on so many ludes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They'll wind up off.
Speaker 3: They'll wind up sometimes across the room, so it doesn't
Speaker 3: want them on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not my choice. Really.
Speaker 4: That's like it's like a body rejecting, like a kidney transplant, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean like if your unconscious body is just like
Speaker 1: being like get these get the coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's nothing I could really do about it.
Speaker 1: Nature has spoken in that case.
Speaker 3: But yeah, whereas your unconscious body isn't it certainly isn't
Speaker 3: going to be like okay.
Speaker 1: Putting socks on.
Speaker 4: If I fall asleep without, so I will wake up.
Speaker 1: For them on so many socks on? I do? I
Speaker 1: have three pairs of socks on well, Caitlin, such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the daily zeit Geist. What a joy?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 4: You can find and follow me mostly on Instagram at
Speaker 4: Caitlin Durante. You can also go to my website Kaitlyn
Speaker 4: Durante dot com for I don't know information, I don't
Speaker 4: know if I if I'm teaching screenwriting classes, I list
Speaker 4: them there, uh and like put the registration links, and
Speaker 4: the Bechdel Cast is going on tour, like I mentioned,
Speaker 4: So if you live in San Francisco, Sacramento, San Diego, Austin,
Speaker 4: or Dallas, we are coming to those cities in early February.
Speaker 4: So you can go to link tree slash spectel Cast
Speaker 4: for all the tickets to the show's there. So come
Speaker 4: and say hi to Jamie and I and we'd love
Speaker 4: to see there.
Speaker 1: There you go. Is there a work of media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: Yes, I also alluded to this already, But the movie
Speaker 4: American Fiction that came out pretty recently, I very very
Speaker 4: much enjoyed. I think it's super smart and funny and
Speaker 4: I laughed a lot, and I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: I have not seen it. My movie watch over the Break.
Speaker 1: My family likes to go to a and this is crazy,
Speaker 1: word a little weird, like to go see a movie
Speaker 1: on Christmas? We And what the fuck's the guy who
Speaker 1: was so excited about Kaitlin's answer, Oh sucks all show? Yeah,
Speaker 1: sot Ferrari And the degree to which that movie, like,
Speaker 1: apparently before seat belts, when there was a car accident,
Speaker 1: people were spring loaded in their car to just like
Speaker 1: sho if you ever dropped a pair of AirPods at
Speaker 1: like a air pod case and they just like shoot
Speaker 1: out all like that. That's apparently what used to happen
Speaker 1: to people in car accents. I will say, damn no more,
Speaker 1: but it's pretty wild.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen that movie yet, but I find it
Speaker 4: fascinating that it is that it came out only a
Speaker 4: few years after Ford Versus Ferrari, So like, why all
Speaker 4: these Ferrari movies all of a sudden and it stars Yeah,
Speaker 4: there it is, and that if I'm not mistaken, Adam
Speaker 4: Driver is playing I'm not sure, but he's doing like
Speaker 4: an Italian accent, right, yes, And wasn't the whole thing
Speaker 4: with that Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: Movie, right, Gucci's a Gucci Ferrari Gucci.
Speaker 4: Adam driver was also doing an Italian accent that everyone
Speaker 4: was like, why is this a thing? Everyone's really doing
Speaker 4: a bad job.
Speaker 1: Jared Letto really took a lot of this. Okay, I see,
Speaker 1: I see full Mario, like just it's me. It was
Speaker 1: in that one. This one's definitely like not not as
Speaker 1: silly as that one, but you do come away being
Speaker 1: like this is the This is such a strange form
Speaker 1: of type casting that he has thrust himself into, of
Speaker 1: like being a Italian historical figure who was having marital
Speaker 1: problems and is the namesake of a still famous brand
Speaker 1: and who like kind of has an Italian accent but
Speaker 1: not really. But it's like both like the Ferrari movie.
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be like a race
Speaker 1: car driver, you know, like the name, like his name promises,
Speaker 1: but he's just like the a CEO. Like it's like
Speaker 1: very much like a business guy. Yeah, yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: a business guy, like trying to deal with an affair
Speaker 1: and like a vision and stuff. It's still cool, Like
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. Michael Man want the car races.
Speaker 1: The car races parts are fun. The car races parts
Speaker 1: are fun.
Speaker 3: Is it Is it still it's set in like the seventies?
Speaker 3: Is it still shot on like the grainiest digital video
Speaker 3: camera you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: No, it's set in the I would say the forties
Speaker 1: or fifties. Okay, yeah, and it's it's shot like a
Speaker 1: you know, just clear like you like, it's clear, you
Speaker 1: can you can see.
Speaker 3: There's nothing on my camera like his movies that are
Speaker 3: like shot on that like pixel vision.
Speaker 1: That record is like an audio tape or whatever. The
Speaker 1: most that I've watched a movie recently and been like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this looks like shit. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it at the time was Collateral. I was like watching Collateral,
Speaker 1: I was like, why does this look like absolute shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it's just like going to from whatever he
Speaker 1: did back then with digital to like the high death
Speaker 1: screens that we have now. It's a little yeah, was it?
Speaker 3: Colteral was shot on basically like actual security cameras. It
Speaker 3: was just like it was something where it was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is the point. It looks like fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, basic amazing. Andrew, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: Let's see two things. One is I have over and
Speaker 3: over again apparently been saying the wrong date. We're doing
Speaker 3: a Yozis Racist Sketch show, a SF Sketch Beest show
Speaker 3: on February third at seven pm at Cobbs Comedy Club.
Speaker 3: Apparently I have fucked up the promo every time on
Speaker 3: my own show, so please please.
Speaker 1: Come see that.
Speaker 3: And work of media sort of, my friend and bootlegged
Speaker 3: this recipe for miso butter with chili crisp from I
Speaker 3: think Momofuku and uh like two parts butter, one one
Speaker 3: part like miso, just whip it together, chili crisp on it,
Speaker 3: and then you do the thing with the spoon where
Speaker 3: you kind of like go halfway and then turn it
Speaker 3: and make the little round of the butter like the little,
Speaker 3: you know, oval shape looking thing.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's what I've been doing.
Speaker 3: That's what I did over all every conceivable holiday was
Speaker 3: like spend a quanelle, Yes, thank you, the spoon thing.
Speaker 3: You also do it at gelato places. I guess, I
Speaker 3: don't fucking know. Anyway, That's that's the media I've been consuming,
Speaker 3: is I guess YouTube videos about how to do that
Speaker 3: thing and how to do this butter.
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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer
Speaker 1: Justin Connor, is there a song in this Year of
Speaker 1: Our Lord twenty twenty four you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this song is by Nuja Best. He's an amazing
Speaker 5: sample based producer, much like Jay Dilla.
Speaker 1: He's from Japan.
Speaker 5: He unfortunately passed away a while ago at an early age.
Speaker 5: But this is one of the first ever tracks that
Speaker 5: he made and it's not very easy to find anymore.
Speaker 5: It's a jazzy remix of one Love by Nas. It's great,
Speaker 5: clean the house music, as Miles always says. So you
Speaker 5: can check out one Love the Noujah Best Remix in
Speaker 5: the footnotes footnotes.
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