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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Episode four of Daily's I Gustay production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 2: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 2: America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, January fifth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That's too many that's come on, boo nah, that's way

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Speaker 1: too many number.

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Speaker 3: That's like buff buffer overflow error number of years. Right.

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Speaker 3: If we were on like a four bit machine, we'd

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Speaker 3: be done.

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Speaker 1: Well. My name is Jack O'Brien aka Soakang Time. Sex

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Speaker 1: is not allowed, but check out this loophole. I just

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Speaker 1: read Soakang Time, put the P in the b and

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Speaker 1: have all the homies jump on the bed. So Kang

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Speaker 1: Time might seem strange, but you'll still get a planet

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Speaker 1: when you are are dead. I know how to abstain

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Speaker 1: and still bone. That is courtesy of Resik. A throwback.

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Speaker 1: I think Resik sensed my displeasure that we were in

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Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty four and gave me an aka

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Speaker 1: from a subject we talked about. I think back in

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Speaker 1: the late eighties, a little long time ago. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious how that came to you. Resik on

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Speaker 1: the Discord like you're just like, oh shit, remember that

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Speaker 1: story they talked about years ago? Anyways, thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest

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Speaker 1: co host hilarious, a brilliant TV writer producer. You know

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Speaker 1: him from the Joses Raises podcast. It's Andrew two. I

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Speaker 1: just want to take a moment to.

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Speaker 3: A happy New Year to all the sun worshiping freaks

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Speaker 3: in the white community. I don't know what you know,

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Speaker 3: what you guys got going on, but happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: I guess shippers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he freaks weird mode life forever the l A

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Speaker 3: true calis Well Andrew.

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Speaker 1: We are thrown to be joining our third seat by

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Speaker 1: a very talented writers, stand up comedian podcast host of

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Speaker 1: The Bechdel Cast, which takes down the patriarchy one movie

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Speaker 1: at a time, and it is just one of the

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Speaker 1: best podcasts in existence. Also happened to have a master's

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Speaker 1: degree in film. The most anagrammable name in the English

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Speaker 1: language such as nine tit Dracula. But when you read

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Speaker 1: the name, when when you read the letters in order,

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Speaker 1: it is Kaitlin Deruta, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Latin dancer ut I.

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Speaker 1: Danswer Uti Caitling. You were just on you're on like

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Speaker 1: the last episode that we did before the break and

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Speaker 1: I'm back baby, the Fuck Around episode. What a great

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Speaker 1: time was that was so fun? And now, unfortunately I

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Speaker 1: regret to inform you this is the photographic negative of

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Speaker 1: that episode. This is the all business episode, just hard

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Speaker 1: news stories one after the other, everything from images of

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Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie piloting one of the planes into the twin

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Speaker 1: towers to Steamboat Willie drenched income. We're covering it all, folks,

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Speaker 1: all the stories that happened over the break. That's that's

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Speaker 1: basically it. We're just gonna talk about how Mickey Mouse

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Speaker 1: hit the public domain kind of. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: controversy bruin in the world of socks, socks or no

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Speaker 1: socks in bed. I've been told this is I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I wear socks about. I'm just gonna come out and

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Speaker 1: say it, and I've been told that is unacceptable. But yeah, excited,

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Speaker 1: I knew. I like everybody sees to it's wild. I

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Speaker 1: just there's like this op edge in the Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal or something in the headline was like, if you

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Speaker 1: sleep in socks, you're a psychopath. Health kicks up controversy

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Speaker 1: and okay, I was like, wow, that's that's so aggressive,

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Speaker 1: right two people, and they were all like, nope, it

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Speaker 1: is correct. It is in fact, scientifically accurate. You need

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Speaker 1: to get out of it.

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Speaker 4: Well, not when you do it my way. I have

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Speaker 4: a very particular sock regiment.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear this. Oh boy jumped the socks,

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Speaker 1: jump jump the socks, all of that plenty more. But first, Kaylin,

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 4: I googled Wolf of Wall Street quaylude scene, yes, because yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: We know it. We love it.

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Speaker 4: I am editing this little promo video to plug the

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Speaker 4: Bechdel Cast tour the Jamie Loftus and I are going

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Speaker 4: on in early February, so zeitgang, who's also a Bechtel head,

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Speaker 4: grab your tickets. But anyway, so I'm like editing this

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Speaker 4: silly little promo video and it's mostly a Barbie tour.

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Speaker 4: We are mostly covering the Barbie movie, but there's one

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Speaker 1: Interesting, you know what movie cares?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's obviously the CROs the the thing.

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Speaker 4: But everyone's like why wouldn't you do, Oppenheimer? And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: because I was asleep during most of those, I don't

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Speaker 4: that quaylude scenes pretty good. Yeah, googled that.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help but notice that Oppenheimer barely does any

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Speaker 1: quayludes in that movie referenced like when he does, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Film on screen where the on screen representation.

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Speaker 1: Show don't tell.

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Speaker 3: Us really felt like that's the only substance legal or otherwise.

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Speaker 1: That just like completely can you get coludes anymore?

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Speaker 3: You can get a lot of shit that is illegal,

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Speaker 3: even you can't get coludes. Where did thees you tried them?

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Speaker 1: No? I want to Oh yeah, yeah, I just I

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Speaker 1: mean that is the premise of the scene in Wolf

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like old, so they don't know how effective

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Speaker 1: They keep taking them. They're like these are busted. And

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Speaker 1: then very much the experience that anybody who's taken too

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Speaker 1: many edibles has had in recent years. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the idea. I feel like they give a passing explanation

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Speaker 1: about where where the coludes went, but it was something

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Speaker 1: and then they may be legal. But it does seem

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Speaker 1: like there's probably you know, as drug has become more advanced,

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Speaker 1: there should be a market there.

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Speaker 3: A minimum and artisanal market for Come on, you.

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Speaker 1: Want to at least try it?

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Speaker 3: Try yeahs and Hell's Angels are back as a vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Hell's Angels mainly use them to

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Speaker 1: counterbalance all the speed that they were on this amount. Well,

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Speaker 1: someone's gonna have to fall asleep eventually. Why don't we

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Speaker 1: figure out something to counterbalance all this trucker speed that

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Speaker 4: Wait, what is speed? Is speed?

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Speaker 1: Coke?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is something that you think is overrated?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're getting into horny territory in these next

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Speaker 3: Oh, folks, it's the first week of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to set a precedent. Horn My god, I

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Speaker 4: mean this isn't particularly horny, but these are about dating.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking giving a lot of thought.

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Speaker 1: So opp you're saying not.

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Speaker 4: When you date like me, I have a very specific

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Speaker 4: and it's all horning. Okay, overrated is height as a

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Speaker 4: dating criteria. I'm talking specifically about men because so if

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Speaker 4: you go, if you're on the apps, there is there

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Speaker 4: are a lot of men who just put their height

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Speaker 1: up to That's enough of that me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my personality in its entirety. So it's very frustrating.

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Speaker 4: And I know that they're doing this because of like

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Speaker 4: a you know, a societal pressure, a beauty standard, blah

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Speaker 1: I also feel like somebody who puts that much emphasis

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Speaker 1: about their height, right, Like he issues going on?

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Speaker 3: But is it kind of it feels like what you're

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Speaker 3: saying though, it's it is like a self regulating system,

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Speaker 3: right because like people who put that, actually that.

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Speaker 1: Is the only thing that is interesting about I mean, that's.

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Speaker 4: True, they're kind of perpetuating this psychle.

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Speaker 1: So but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like you don't you don't want to

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Speaker 3: swipe on those folks, and you know that it's doing

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Speaker 3: its job both ways. If someone only loves height and

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Speaker 3: if someone recognizes that that's idiotic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about it, unless there wembing Yama. Are they

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Speaker 1: victor wembing Yama? Are they seven foot four? And it

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Speaker 1: is like the main thing about them that you would

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Speaker 4: I won't fit through the doorway.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that would make sense, but it is it's just

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Speaker 1: I That's why problem is you're like I am the

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Speaker 4: That's all you need to know. And Andrew, You're right

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Speaker 4: like this, like this should be like a weeding out process,

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Speaker 4: except that I would say in like eighty percent of

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Speaker 4: profiles and I like, yes, I'm I'm like swiping left

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Speaker 4: on like ninety nine point nine percent of people. But like,

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Speaker 4: it's just so prevalent for men to have just their

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Speaker 4: height or like one of three things they list about

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Speaker 4: themselves is their height, and I think it's stinks.

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Speaker 1: We'll not stand for it, yeah, won't. That's terrible that

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Speaker 1: people do this. Do they hold a coin next to

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Speaker 1: them for like the yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they have just a tiny little quarter and they're like,

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Speaker 4: I'm so much taller.

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Speaker 3: Than this, yeah, which then does open up a market

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Speaker 3: for fake not to scale, like measuring tape in your

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Speaker 3: yard sticks or whatever that you hold up next to

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Speaker 3: yourself or your dating profile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, let's get on this.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, all right, this is an enterprise if

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Speaker 4: I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: Justin, You're gonna have to cut out the next thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes while we scheme this doesness plan and we're back

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Speaker 1: and we're about to be rich as fun. Wow. What

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Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Caitlin?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so what I think is underrated is being solo poly.

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Speaker 4: So if anyone's not familiar, it's a type of polyamory

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Speaker 4: or ethical non monogamy where you're just kind of single,

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Speaker 4: your main relationship is with yourself, but you also have

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Speaker 4: so many lovers. Great, it's the best of all the worlds,

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Speaker 4: so many and it's something I've been exploring in recent

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Speaker 4: years and I've never been happier.

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Speaker 1: I would say, definitely sounds like the best one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think sounds like a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were saying solo POLLI like that that

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Speaker 3: Twenty is good. We'll be rich enough that will never come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like people, if the Disney Corporation is in

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Speaker 1: That's the Mickey Mouse Protection Act is what is called.

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Speaker 1: Looks like total ship. Yeah, it's also set in a

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Speaker 4: Myself as someone who didn't listen to that.

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Speaker 1: Didn't listen to your own. I listened to everything Miles

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Speaker 3: just for you.

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Speaker 1: just plant incept ideas. But yeah, it's five nights at Freddy's.

435
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Caitlin.

436
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't like

437
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 4: a classicory google.

438
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: Right right, could could easily be, but so just the

439
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: least original original film ever proposed.

440
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 3: The thing that bums me out about these is like

441
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: like they had it ready to go.

442
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: It's like so uncreative. I just wish some some just.

443
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: Like like this. The creativity is like shockingly low for this,

444
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 3: for this whole like all of it, the whole class

445
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: of these may Yeah, it's really it just bums me out.

446
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I want something funnier. I guess, yeah, well.

447
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: I think funny would be too close to so like

448
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: none of this is really legal, like you Disney could

449
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: like sue any one of these that they wanted to

450
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: out of existence. It's just a gamble like whether that

451
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: draws attention to it or not.

452
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: You know, that was a thing that I learned when

453
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: I worked at Comedy Central many years ago, that like

454
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 3: I it was outside of it, but it was maybe

455
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: this is a private conversation with not soci're repeating but

456
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: doesn't matter that much. But like, you know, I was

457
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: told that often because you like kind of have the

458
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: impression like, oh, you can't use Coca Cola in your things,

459
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: so you got to use this thing because of copyright

460
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: or whatever. And it's rarely that, Like it's usually just

461
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: that like the business affairs and ad salespeople would like

462
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: to get Coca Cola as a sponsor pay them.

463
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

464
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you are free, but it has nothing

465
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: to do with the like base legality of like can

466
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: you use it?

467
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: And it's such a like detraction from the quality of movies.

468
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've told us that before, but

469
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: it's like so interesting to me because it's such a

470
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: like if you could just like it takes you out

471
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: of the movie so much to have people drinking from

472
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: a can that is like yeah, says soda on it

473
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: crackle cola, Yeah, exactly.

474
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: To me the example I was given, I don't remember

475
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: who said this, but like you just can't like defame

476
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: the product, like you can't have someone drink a coke

477
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: drop dead from a heart attack and then all the

478
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: characters say, that's what always happens when you drink.

479
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: So as long as you're not like slandering the brand,

480
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, like quay Lude for example.

481
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Right, which we've always said on the show, is very

482
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: good for you. It's like taking your vitamins in the

483
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, you know.

484
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: I wonder just so you can't you can't misrepers that

485
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: you can't have coludes and just be like these get

486
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: me high with no consequences, like I just did.

487
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

488
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: Well, I was an extra on a movie set one time,

489
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: Huge Brag. It was a movie that never got a

490
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: theatrical release, but Emma Roberts was in it, and it

491
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: was about a high school basketball team. And I was

492
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: in this like cafeteria scene where there were vending machines

493
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: in the shot. But originally the vending machines I think

494
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: were pepsi And then they brought the like production brought

495
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: in basically like huge stickers that said Coca Cola on

496
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: them to place them over they though to make it

497
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: seem like, yes, a Coca Cola machine.

498
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

499
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly why they did that, if that

500
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: was some sort of like agreement with Cola or I

501
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: don't or if they were like, we want money from

502
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: Coca Cola but not PEPSI. I don't. I don't know

503
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: enough about it, but I just found that fascinating that

504
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, you like specifically brought in stickers

505
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: to like make to change what this product would be.

506
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the director is just like, no, these people have cocina.

507
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: They would never No, it's not this is real. This

508
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: is taking me out. PEPSI.

509
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: Emma Roberts the fuck out.

510
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: Of here does not track.

511
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: Emma Roberts does not exist in a universe alongside PEPSI

512
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: like that. That doesn't It's like, you can't put Michael

513
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Douglas in a movie set in the past. You can't

514
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: put Emma Roberts in a movie in which there's right,

515
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't make it.

516
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: Even if he was in Like if if Michael Douglas

517
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: was in a period piece, you'd still need to add

518
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: minimum put like a BlackBerry in his hand.

519
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't love like that was a period. No. That.

520
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: So William Goldman, the screenwriter has he wrote Princess Bride,

521
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: and he has like what one of his books on screenwriting,

522
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: I forget which one it is. He talks about how

523
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: his theory for why Ghost in the Darkness I think

524
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: is the movie it's like Jaws, but a lion in

525
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: Africa that is like killing everybody. And then there's like

526
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: it's the eighteen hundreds, I think, and they're like the

527
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: quint character is this like stoic lion hunter played by

528
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Michael Douglas, And everyone heading into the movie movie's release

529
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: was like this is a sure thing, like we have

530
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: the next Jaws. And then it like tanked. And his

531
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: theory for why it tanked is that Michael Douglas just

532
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: cannot exist in like a movie that takes place outside

533
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: of like after the Earth, before the nineteen eighties, Like

534
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: he just like needs to be a horny businessman like that.

535
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: That's it.

536
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of unsettling to even just imagine Michael

537
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: Douglas in the same room as an animal or in

538
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: the same like right, so like like anything that isn't Yeah,

539
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: he tried it.

540
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: And fatal attraction. Look what happened to that rabbit? Jesus Anyways,

541
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: like that, multiple movies actually hit on the same like

542
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: multiple trailers dropped or I guess this one didn't have

543
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: a full trailer. But there's like a Whore, an animated

544
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: horror movie where Mickey Mouse will torment a group of

545
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: unsuspecting faery passengers. So they're like, steamboat will what's the

546
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: first thing we all think about with Mickey Mouse that

547
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: he was on that dang steamboat a long time ago. Well,

548
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: what this movie presupposes is he's still on that steamboat

549
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: and he's angry. But like so that winn the movie exactly,

550
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: like does he do it in like weird like animation,

551
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: like like giving looks to the camera, like whistling out

552
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: of the side of his mouth as he's like no.

553
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: Kind of lightfle up double knee bounce per step.

554
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Right, and that is how I walk Canonically, I walk

555
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: into a double knee bounce everywhere I go. But that

556
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: shitty winning the Pooh movie, Caitlin, you referenced that is

557
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: the first in the class. This classic wory of movie

558
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: was made for one hundred thousand dollars, like evidently, like

559
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: every one of the dollars not spent over that is

560
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: on screen, Like they're like, yeah, no, that's just a

561
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: dude in a mask that like you didn't even bother

562
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: to get the best mask for this job. Whoa. And

563
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: that movie made five point two million dollars because people

564
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: were just like mad at it, and so it got

565
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: passed around and like the director of one of these

566
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: slasher Mickey Mouse slasher movies, this is the direct quote.

567
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: We actually love the negative feedback because you know, it

568
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: just draws more interest. There seems to be, you know,

569
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: a market for people that want to hate this kind

570
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it doesn't matter just if you watch

571
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: the movie, if you pay to watch the movie, then yeah,

572
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: that's all we want. Said the director of art Off

573
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: about that. Give a fuck? What do you Why are

574
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: you talking to me? None of this matters, just so out,

575
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: so nihilistic. There is like a thing that I've been

576
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: noticing just as a trend across media where we no

577
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: longer distinguish between Like people were talking about how viral

578
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: one of those Israeli comedy sketches went, you know the

579
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: ones that like I guess Brent Gellman was in one

580
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: of them and Michael Raviofort but they're just like super offensive,

581
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: like yeah, and people were like it's gone viral. These

582
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: things are like it's like no people, people aren't like

583
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: laughing and passing it around. Everyone's like horrified at this thing.

584
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: But there there just does seem to be a way

585
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: that we're just like flattening it out. And it's just

586
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: like all attention is not only does it like work,

587
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: but it's just evaluated the same is It's just like, yeah,

588
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a success. Shamelessly mask off. We don't give

589
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: a fuck unless it's a shitty Mickey Mouse mask Yeah,

590
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean it isn't. It isn't. It's like you know

591
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: the like, oh I like the negative press.

592
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 3: Actually, like it's like that's like that is like the

593
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: fifth emotion you have.

594
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: After like you know, I know it's a budget, it's

595
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: kind of goofy, but like maybe this is gonna.

596
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: Be good and like no, okay, but like call you know,

597
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like that that is also a type

598
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: of just hope. Yeah, I guess right, Like it's not untrue,

599
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: but it's also like, you know, I'm positive this person's

600
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: dream wasn't to cynically snatch. I mean, admittedly a decent

601
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: amount of money, but not a good Hollywood you know,

602
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: favorite Hollywood director amount of money from this enterprise. So yeah,

603
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: they're still disappointed.

604
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: The way I read it was like he's like, yeah, man,

605
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: it's great, but it could be. He said this with

606
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: like a glassy, far off gaze in his eye, you know,

607
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: but he's just like feeling his all of his life's

608
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: dreams dry up. Yeah it's still dark. Make me feel better.

609
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still money. I guess we do enjoy money,

610
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: I suppose.

611
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 4: But it is the thing of like when people are like, yeah,

612
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: I made it bad on purpose, then that's I was,

613
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: and that was intentional, and it's part of the commentary.

614
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: And it's like, no, you didn't. You tried your hardest

615
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: and it was bad, right, And that's okay.

616
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. You're bad. It's okay be bad. There's

617
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: there's so many people in the world. You're one of

618
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: the bad ones. It's okay.

619
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: At least you have money.

620
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: A lot of people are bad don't get money. At

621
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: least you can do the job that your boss has

622
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: asked you to do. That's pretty good. That counts for something, Buddy,

623
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna Disney can still like totally prevent people from

624
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: using their early version of Mickey Mouse on consumer products,

625
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: like the way that people use logos. It's like that

626
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: it the closer you look at this, the harder it

627
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: is to distinguish, like what actually changed, because Disney could

628
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: still sue you out of existence. I think the thing

629
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: that changed is that, like a horror movie, there's no

630
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: way that anyone would confuse that with being something that

631
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Disney was putting out. And so this is like the same. Legally,

632
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: this is even though it on its surface seems like

633
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: the most subversive thing to do, it's actually legally the

634
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: safest thing to do because it's the most evidently like satirical.

635
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing is it's like all all

636
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: this ever has done. This shit is like slightly changed

637
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: the risk calculus for litigation, you know, with a slight

638
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: change in one portion of the copyright law. But you

639
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: know other shit is blah blah blah, Like yeah, yeah,

640
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: it makes it slightly more of a pain in the

641
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: ass for them, Like it gives your lawyers one more

642
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: paper they can file that then gets swatted down by

643
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: the Disney lawyers. Yeah yeah, yeah, that does cost Disney money.

644
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 3: That costs the billable hours. But like we'll get shit.

645
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah they don't. They don't give a fuck. They will

646
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: spend you into the ground.

647
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the most famous examples of Disney threatening

648
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: legal action over the use of Mickey Mouse wasn't for

649
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: a scathing parody, and in fact, there is like there

650
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: is a short film in which Mickey Mouse is sent

651
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: to the Vietnam War and shot and killed immediately after

652
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: getting off the transport. And they did not sue that

653
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: they were because they were like, oh, that would just

654
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: draw attention to this. So that came out in nineteen

655
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 1: sixty eight and they were just like, yeah, go knock

656
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: yourself out. But they did sue three daycares that had

657
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: unlacensed Disney murals. Yeah yeah, yeah, because that.

658
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: Could be seen as like over Disneyland, Yes, Jaycare is

659
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 3: Disney branded.

660
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: That's our end game, you guys. We will take all

661
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: of your children into underground bunker with their characters painted

662
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: all over it. That's not for you to use. All right,

663
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we're gonna come

664
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: back and talk about the controversy that everybody's waiting to

665
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: hear about whether you wear socks in bed. We'll be

666
00:39:53,360 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: right back and we're back, And yeah, as I mentioned,

667
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: there's a Wall Street Journal article, if you sleep in socks,

668
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: You're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up controversy if you

669
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: sleep in socks, You're a psychopaths and quotes, so it's

670
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: quoting one of the sources from this article, but it's

671
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: this is like one of those articles that mainstream institutions

672
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: do sometimes where they you can tell like they are

673
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: having fun or they're trying to communicate the idea that

674
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: they're having fun, and there's like it's full of just

675
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: shitty puns. So brought it to my attention. I started

676
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: like googling around, like am I weird for wearing socks

677
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: in bed? And yes, very fucking weird. People are not.

678
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: Like there's a Reddit thread that is all about this,

679
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: and you know, it's full of like aggressive opinions on

680
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: both sides. But like the percentage of people who responded

681
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: and said they wear socks is like between five and

682
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: twenty percent of people wear socks and bed. Everybody else

683
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: is like what like when I ask people there horrified

684
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: at the idea that somebody would wear socks and bed. Yeah.

685
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sleep specialists. They think it's a good

686
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: idea because they apparently, if you keep your feet warm,

687
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: then your body has to work less hard at like

688
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: warming them up, and so it actually keeps your body

689
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: temperature lower to have socks on your feet somehow your.

690
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: Body, okay, because the whole rest of your body.

691
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Is like working to keep your feet from freezing off

692
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: or someone. Okay, okay, seems like bullshit, But I don't

693
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: know why, especially with this being such a wildly unpopular take.

694
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why sleep experts would be bring this

695
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: up other than it's the heat marketing that we talked

696
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: about before.

697
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: Right, all right, well I'm ready to disclose my habit.

698
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, can we get a little drunk.

699
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear here, like like the little they use,

700
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: the little tippitty thing they used before, like they reveal

701
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: in deal or no deal, what's inside the briefcase?

702
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, put that sound effect in and okay,

703
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 4: this is not this is the dicloimactic. I will wear

704
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: socks to bed in the winter when it's cold, cold,

705
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: and I want to say form, but oh my god,

706
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: the crowd are losing their.

707
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Fucking ten large that that was gonna be your answer.

708
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: But they are socks that are like my specific bed socks.

709
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: I will not wear them around the rest of my apartment.

710
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: I would never like put them in shoes and go

711
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: out and then like also then wear those into bed.

712
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: Anyone who like goes about their days in their dirty

713
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 4: socks and then and then wears those same socks to bed.

714
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 4: I do believe that those are well, you just turned.

715
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: Into a Southern Belt leg hon now you see. I

716
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: do believe that those people are well. Yeah, that One

717
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: of the articles I found was debunking or like you know,

718
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: dismissive of sock wearing in bed based on the idea

719
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: that like we're just coming from the gym in sweaty

720
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: socks and like popping into bed. It's like, no, what

721
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like we don't have one pair of socks.

722
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Like the point is that they're like dry, clean night

723
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: socks that you put on after you take a shower.

724
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: Yes, here's my my question for both of you freaks, though,

725
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: did you is this behavior that was like acquired or

726
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: did you never?

727
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: Have you ever?

728
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you've ever, but did you ever,

729
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: like on a regular basis sleep without socks and make

730
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: make a decision to be like I'm a socksman or.

731
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: Socks on, and I was.

732
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: Both inappropriated and just flowed off my dog. But you

733
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like, has it always been socks?

734
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: You know?

735
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: No more or less? So I actually there is. So

736
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting to me about this is that

737
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: there really seems to be a broad like propagandistic push

738
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: against wearing socks in bed, like I want. My mom

739
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: told me like growing up about the scariest nightmare she

740
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: ever had and blamed it on wearing socks to bed. Well,

741
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: she was like I and I think it was because

742
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: I wore socks to bed and that's and.

743
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: She was trying to scare you out of that.

744
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: I guess, like it's but it's just like the Reddit

745
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: thread like has somebody like that, People are like I

746
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: physically recoil at the thought of wearing socks while asleep.

747
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: I think sleeping with socks on feels grotesque asleep with

748
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: socks when I'm too drunk to take them off, And honestly,

749
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: waking up with socks on is worse than the hangover,

750
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: that that person is going to bed with dirty socks on.

751
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: And then somebody else wrote one of sock sleepers are

752
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: serial killers? True stat that I did not just make

753
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: up on the spot, and Andrew, you agree that is true?

754
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one, I I will just say, I have

755
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: never thought about it. I just reflexively like, don't like

756
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: like having socks on when I sleep.

757
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: I have a few counter points. Yeah, one is.

758
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: You do and too.

759
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, socks can be gross and can become gross,

760
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: but also so our feet. And if I was like

761
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: in bed with someone who had gross feet and they

762
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 4: were like rubbing up against me and like they hadn't

763
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: clipped their toenails, and like recently, that to me would

764
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: be grosser than wearing socks to bed. Second counter point,

765
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: I run very cold. I am always chilly. Maybe that's it,

766
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 4: and I if I and like I'm also I have

767
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: like pretty bad insomnia, and so conditions need to be

768
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: like absolutely perfect for me to sleep. It has to be,

769
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: you know, not too noisy. The bed has to be comfortable,

770
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: My anxiety needs to be at a manageable level. I

771
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: need to be the right temperature, and usually my feet

772
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 4: are too cold without socks, especially you know, in the

773
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 4: colder months, So I like will lay awake all night

774
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: long if I if I if my feet are too

775
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: cold because I'm not wearing socks.

776
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: So feet and fingers are the only parts of it.

777
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm cold. Everything else about me runs super hot.

778
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: But yeah that's the case. Yeah, I should, I should

779
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: mention it. I also am completely nude other than the

780
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: socks when.

781
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: I just yeah, just three socks on.

782
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

783
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: That reminded me of that Flight of the Concord song

784
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 4: business socks, which reminds me of I think a more

785
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 4: a more relevant conversation here is if you wear socks

786
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: during sex, Yeah, that is psychopathic behavior.

787
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you also have the garters on because

788
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: you don't want your socks down having sex, so you

789
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: want to keep your sock guarters on around your knees.

790
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: Steamboat Willie's back, steamboat Willie fucks with sock garters.

791
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 4: It's out and his socks are his socks are up.

792
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also like sleep on my face,

793
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: so I feel like maybe I think I have like

794
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: reverse claustrophobia, like I need to like because I think

795
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: a lot of what people need to be I need

796
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: to be like smart. Yeah like that. I think what

797
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people are responding to when I read

798
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: their negative responses, like get the ship off of.

799
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: Me, like I don't want anything, like, you know, I

800
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: think that's actually as we're talking, I think in a vacuum,

801
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: like I will take the socks off in my sleep,

802
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: like if they're on, Like if in the event that

803
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: I have, for instance, like falling asleep, you know, maybe

804
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: sooner than I anticipated for whatever, you know, chemically induced reason.

805
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: We're on so many ludes, Yeah.

806
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: They'll wind up off.

807
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: They'll wind up sometimes across the room, so it doesn't

808
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: want them on.

809
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not my choice. Really.

810
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 4: That's like it's like a body rejecting, like a kidney transplant, right, yeah.

811
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: I mean like if your unconscious body is just like

812
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: being like get these get the coffee.

813
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's nothing I could really do about it.

814
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Nature has spoken in that case.

815
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, whereas your unconscious body isn't it certainly isn't

816
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: going to be like okay.

817
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Putting socks on.

818
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 4: If I fall asleep without, so I will wake up.

819
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: For them on so many socks on? I do? I

820
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: have three pairs of socks on well, Caitlin, such a

821
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the daily zeit Geist. What a joy?

822
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff.

823
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 4: You can find and follow me mostly on Instagram at

824
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: Caitlin Durante. You can also go to my website Kaitlyn

825
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: Durante dot com for I don't know information, I don't

826
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: know if I if I'm teaching screenwriting classes, I list

827
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: them there, uh and like put the registration links, and

828
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: the Bechdel Cast is going on tour, like I mentioned,

829
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: So if you live in San Francisco, Sacramento, San Diego, Austin,

830
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 4: or Dallas, we are coming to those cities in early February.

831
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: So you can go to link tree slash spectel Cast

832
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: for all the tickets to the show's there. So come

833
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: and say hi to Jamie and I and we'd love

834
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: to see there.

835
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: There you go. Is there a work of media that

836
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying?

837
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: Yes, I also alluded to this already, But the movie

838
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: American Fiction that came out pretty recently, I very very

839
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: much enjoyed. I think it's super smart and funny and

840
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: I laughed a lot, and I highly recommend it.

841
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: I have not seen it. My movie watch over the Break.

842
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: My family likes to go to a and this is crazy,

843
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: word a little weird, like to go see a movie

844
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: on Christmas? We And what the fuck's the guy who

845
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: was so excited about Kaitlin's answer, Oh sucks all show? Yeah,

846
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: sot Ferrari And the degree to which that movie, like,

847
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: apparently before seat belts, when there was a car accident,

848
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: people were spring loaded in their car to just like

849
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: sho if you ever dropped a pair of AirPods at

850
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: like a air pod case and they just like shoot

851
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: out all like that. That's apparently what used to happen

852
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: to people in car accents. I will say, damn no more,

853
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: but it's pretty wild.

854
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: I haven't seen that movie yet, but I find it

855
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: fascinating that it is that it came out only a

856
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: few years after Ford Versus Ferrari, So like, why all

857
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: these Ferrari movies all of a sudden and it stars Yeah,

858
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 4: there it is, and that if I'm not mistaken, Adam

859
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: Driver is playing I'm not sure, but he's doing like

860
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 4: an Italian accent, right, yes, And wasn't the whole thing

861
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: with that Lady Gaga.

862
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: Movie, right, Gucci's a Gucci Ferrari Gucci.

863
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: Adam driver was also doing an Italian accent that everyone

864
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 4: was like, why is this a thing? Everyone's really doing

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Speaker 4: a bad job.

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Speaker 1: Jared Letto really took a lot of this. Okay, I see,

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Speaker 1: I see full Mario, like just it's me. It was

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Speaker 1: in that one. This one's definitely like not not as

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Speaker 1: silly as that one, but you do come away being

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Speaker 1: like this is the This is such a strange form

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Speaker 1: of type casting that he has thrust himself into, of

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Speaker 1: like being a Italian historical figure who was having marital

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Speaker 1: problems and is the namesake of a still famous brand

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Speaker 1: and who like kind of has an Italian accent but

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Speaker 1: not really. But it's like both like the Ferrari movie.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be like a race

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Speaker 1: car driver, you know, like the name, like his name promises,

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Speaker 1: but he's just like the a CEO. Like it's like

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Speaker 1: very much like a business guy. Yeah, yeah, he's just

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Speaker 1: a business guy, like trying to deal with an affair

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Speaker 1: and like a vision and stuff. It's still cool, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it. Michael Man want the car races.

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Speaker 1: The car races parts are fun. The car races parts

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Speaker 1: are fun.

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Speaker 3: Is it Is it still it's set in like the seventies?

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Speaker 3: Is it still shot on like the grainiest digital video

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Speaker 3: camera you've ever seen?

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Speaker 1: No, it's set in the I would say the forties

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Speaker 1: or fifties. Okay, yeah, and it's it's shot like a

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Speaker 1: you know, just clear like you like, it's clear, you

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Speaker 1: can you can see.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing on my camera like his movies that are

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Speaker 3: like shot on that like pixel vision.

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Speaker 1: That record is like an audio tape or whatever. The

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Speaker 1: most that I've watched a movie recently and been like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this looks like shit. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: it at the time was Collateral. I was like watching Collateral,

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Speaker 1: I was like, why does this look like absolute shit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it's just like going to from whatever he

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Speaker 1: did back then with digital to like the high death

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Speaker 1: screens that we have now. It's a little yeah, was it?

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Speaker 3: Colteral was shot on basically like actual security cameras. It

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Speaker 3: was just like it was something where it was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is the point. It looks like fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, basic amazing. Andrew, where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 3: Let's see two things. One is I have over and

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Speaker 3: over again apparently been saying the wrong date. We're doing

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Speaker 3: a Yozis Racist Sketch show, a SF Sketch Beest show

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Speaker 3: on February third at seven pm at Cobbs Comedy Club.

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Speaker 3: Apparently I have fucked up the promo every time on

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Speaker 3: my own show, so please please.

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Speaker 1: Come see that.

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Speaker 3: And work of media sort of, my friend and bootlegged

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Speaker 3: this recipe for miso butter with chili crisp from I

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Speaker 3: think Momofuku and uh like two parts butter, one one

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Speaker 3: part like miso, just whip it together, chili crisp on it,

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Speaker 3: and then you do the thing with the spoon where

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Speaker 3: you kind of like go halfway and then turn it

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Speaker 3: and make the little round of the butter like the little,

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Speaker 3: you know, oval shape looking thing.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that's what I've been doing.

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Speaker 3: That's what I did over all every conceivable holiday was

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Speaker 3: like spend a quanelle, Yes, thank you, the spoon thing.

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Speaker 3: You also do it at gelato places. I guess, I

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Speaker 3: don't fucking know. Anyway, That's that's the media I've been consuming,

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Speaker 3: is I guess YouTube videos about how to do that

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Speaker 3: thing and how to do this butter.

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Speaker 1: There you go because that's a saint that was very

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Speaker 1: sustain that was beautifully put work media. I've been enjoying

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Speaker 1: tweet from De Souza with Zero's instead of O's tweeted

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Speaker 1: Shazam but for weird noises at night, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good idea for an event. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter at daily Zeikeist, read the Daily Zeikeist

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fampaign and a website,

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Speaker 1: Daily zeikeist dot com, where we post our episode. Than

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Speaker 1: our footnote, we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: I don't know why that threw me so much, Hey

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Speaker 1: I'm rusty all right, twenty point four, as well as

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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer

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Speaker 1: Justin Connor, is there a song in this Year of

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Speaker 1: Our Lord twenty twenty four you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this song is by Nuja Best. He's an amazing

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Speaker 5: sample based producer, much like Jay Dilla.

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Speaker 1: He's from Japan.

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Speaker 5: He unfortunately passed away a while ago at an early age.

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Speaker 5: But this is one of the first ever tracks that

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Speaker 5: he made and it's not very easy to find anymore.

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Speaker 5: It's a jazzy remix of one Love by Nas. It's great,

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Speaker 5: clean the house music, as Miles always says. So you

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Speaker 5: can check out one Love the Noujah Best Remix in

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Speaker 5: the footnotes footnotes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will link off to that and the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeike is the production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 1: podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite show that

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for us this morning. We

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Speaker 1: are back on Monday to tell you what happened over

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Speaker 1: the weekend and to talk to an expert, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a blast. I have a great weekend, Happy

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Speaker 1: to be back with you folks, and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you all then. Bye. B