WEBVTT - Financial Habits that Determine Your Future #123

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Kind of Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're talking about the financial habits that determine

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<v Speaker 1>your future. Yeah, Joel, did you know that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>over two months to solidify a behavior as an automatic

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<v Speaker 1>habit that you really don't even have to think about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>habits take a while to form, right, So these aren't

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<v Speaker 1>things that you can do overnight, make one change and

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're good to go. Sixty days, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>long I've heard it takes to kick a bad habits.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully in this episode we can talk about forming

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<v Speaker 1>some positive habits. Yeah, before we kick it off, man,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this Google Chrome extension called Time Well Spent.

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<v Speaker 1>This was tweeted at us by David Clark, and he

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<v Speaker 1>actually sent us some coffee and some beer way back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. He's been he's been listening for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>a long time listener, first time tweeter. Which no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not even true, because he actually tweeted us when he

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<v Speaker 1>made that spreadsheet for the cost of his vehicle that

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<v Speaker 1>the total cost of ownership versus biking and finding other

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<v Speaker 1>forms of transportation. And this is something else very cool

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<v Speaker 1>that he found but yeah, it's called time well spent.

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<v Speaker 1>And what this thing does is when you turn this

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<v Speaker 1>extension on when you're shopping online, it turns all the

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<v Speaker 1>dollar amounts into time, and so it turns it into

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<v Speaker 1>the time that it would take you to work in

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<v Speaker 1>order to actually earn that product. So do you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to input your hourly wage and then it computes

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<v Speaker 1>it for you. Yeah, you either enter in your hourly

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<v Speaker 1>rates or your annual salary after tax, and yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It automatically computes it for you. Super fascinating and I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I was shocked at the effect that it

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<v Speaker 1>had on me because I was messing around with it

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<v Speaker 1>some and my reaction though to it wasn't oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna take so long to earn this. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>my reaction was thirty minutes for for this. I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a living paradox to to what I'm talking about here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's difficult for me to to manage my time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this is an example of where I

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<v Speaker 1>would see my time laid out in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, next to our product, and think cool, I

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<v Speaker 1>can work an hour for that, or I can work

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<v Speaker 1>a full day for that. Yeah, I think for me

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<v Speaker 1>and for most folks that would install this on their browser,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think we would have the effect of curbing spending.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully that is the case for most folks, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Because for for most of us, as we we see

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<v Speaker 1>the dollar sign, we we are put we're putting it

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<v Speaker 1>on plastic. We don't have to pay for it for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days, and hopefully folks that are listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>show are paying their credit card balances in full at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of every month. But still there's this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of frictionless effect to making a purchase. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I'm gonna try this out. I'm gonna install it,

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<v Speaker 1>so big thanks to David for sending us extension our way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna install it, and I'm gonna see how

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<v Speaker 1>it affects my spending, because I have a feeling that's

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<v Speaker 1>seeing not just a dollar sign on the screen, but

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the hours of my life that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take to buy this product as opposed to just a

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<v Speaker 1>straight dollar amount. I have a feeling that that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>actually make a difference in in curbing my spending. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great idea and I think it's so clever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really do think it could help a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks too. Yeah, super smart. I I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that says about me, Like maybe I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna live forever and I've got all the

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<v Speaker 1>time in the world, but I don't. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say one of the what I would recommend you to do, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to Amazon and look at your previous orders,

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<v Speaker 1>because it will change all of those numbers as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can be like, was that worth It

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<v Speaker 1>was that word exactly, But again in my case, I

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<v Speaker 1>ordered some cables and some other stuff that I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and it was literally it was twelve minutes

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<v Speaker 1>worth of time that it would have taken me to

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<v Speaker 1>have earned that. And so my thoughts to myself, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, that's just a few emails to think that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm sending their emailing, then I win this price.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh sweet. Something about attaching that time does

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<v Speaker 1>something tangible for me makes it almost seem more worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, hopefully most folks are not like me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the vast majority of folks who install this,

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<v Speaker 1>and again it was called time well spent that hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>would allow them to curb their spending or at least

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<v Speaker 1>give them pause. I hope this time well Spent extension

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<v Speaker 1>would work for like cracking my mortgage or let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>tracking someone's car payment too. It could really I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be actually really painful, right if I actually

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<v Speaker 1>log into the bank or the credit union, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be a bit more painful to think. Okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>is it even worth me to to work that long

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<v Speaker 1>just to have a place to live? Right right? Or

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<v Speaker 1>it's this fancy new car, but it's taking up seven

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<v Speaker 1>days of my month essentially that I have to dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>to work in order to pay for it. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big shift in mindset. That just the three fifty dollar payment.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure if it does that, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look into this time well Spent extension. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get onto the beer that we're having on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener Cameron super Cool Dude donated a couple of beers

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<v Speaker 1>from his recent trip to Vermont, Vermont. Yeah, that's good news. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont is happy. It's like beer Mecca. Really Vermont kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started at all. I think there's actually more micro

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<v Speaker 1>breweries per capita in Vermont than in any other Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're They're super into their craft beer in Vermont. So

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<v Speaker 1>this one is the best of the best. It is

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont's finest, and Vermont has so many good beers, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big champagne of beers something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else took that slogan. Not quite. This beer is

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<v Speaker 1>called Hetty Topper and it's by the Alchemist Brewery in Waterbury, Vermont.

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<v Speaker 1>And this beer just has a cult following. It basically

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<v Speaker 1>changed the way that people started to think about drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I p a. S. So really excited to drink this

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<v Speaker 1>one with you today, buddy, and we'll let you know

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts on this beer at the end of the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we will, all right, Matt, onto the subject at hand.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about habits, the habits that you are able

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<v Speaker 1>to develop now become ingrained, and the small things that

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<v Speaker 1>we do day after day they shape who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Simple routines can be life changing for us because they

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<v Speaker 1>help us to be able to do the actual things

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to do without having to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is amazing how just a small habit can

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<v Speaker 1>change your morning, can get you into a routine can

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<v Speaker 1>change your finances, can change your workout, life can change

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things. Just developing a couple of important

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<v Speaker 1>habits can make massive differences in the way things look

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<v Speaker 1>for you down the road. And so we want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk today about money habits, the ones that are important,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you can go about developing them so they

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<v Speaker 1>you can be better off financially without having to constantly

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, just sending these things in motion, so

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<v Speaker 1>they are a part of the way you live. Yeah, Joelan,

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<v Speaker 1>what's so key, I think is is that you said

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<v Speaker 1>setting it an emotion. It's not that we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid thinking about these things altogether. We do want to

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<v Speaker 1>think about them. We want to be intentional, but we

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<v Speaker 1>want to think about them once and make a decision

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of move on with life. These aren't decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to revisit daily or even monthly, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to have to make the decision

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<v Speaker 1>of should I invest my money this month? Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we've decided that we are going to do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a judgment call. It's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>executing the decision that you have already decided. So this year,

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<v Speaker 1>both of our girls are in school, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>had to kind of change our morning routine. Would it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like? And if I had to decide every night

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<v Speaker 1>what time I was going to wake up the next morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I would waffle back and forth so much. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have the hardest time. Some days I would do it well,

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<v Speaker 1>other days I would do it really poorly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just decided on the time I was gonna wake up

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock every single morning. I'm basically ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>day when the girls get up. And it's made such

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<v Speaker 1>a big different it's for me. It wasn't easy. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come naturally, but it was this habit that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to get into and develop in order

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<v Speaker 1>to make my morning flow well. So, yeah, these habits

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<v Speaker 1>have this ability to take that decision making out of

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<v Speaker 1>the process. You make the decision kind of once you

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<v Speaker 1>implement it, and then it's not something that has to

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<v Speaker 1>be on your radar all the time, playing whack a mole,

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<v Speaker 1>deciding whether or not you're gonna do it. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that you prioritize, it gets done, and then it gets

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<v Speaker 1>off of your mental plate because that habit kicks in

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes more or less effortless. So question for you,

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<v Speaker 1>do you get up still at six on the weekends? Nope, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not, although I probably I think it would

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<v Speaker 1>probably help if I submitted it on the weekends to

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<v Speaker 1>make Mondays a little bit easier. We still tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get up earlier than we normally would. Natural mats just

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<v Speaker 1>wants to sleep in because I'm a night owl, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would sleep in every single day and stay up

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<v Speaker 1>late every single day. That's just how I am. But yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids in school, let's we're the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to maintain some of that consistency. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>want to introduce now are some main money habits. These

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<v Speaker 1>are some financial habits that you will want to prioritize.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them you might already be kicking but at

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<v Speaker 1>and others just may not yet be on your radar.

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<v Speaker 1>While others still you might even think, yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing that, but I haven't gotten around even

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<v Speaker 1>starting those. And so here are some of the big

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<v Speaker 1>sort of overarching financial habits to implement. Joel, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to kick this off, Yeah, sure, man, Yeah. We We've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of thoughts, by the way, on how

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<v Speaker 1>to actually get a habit started. We're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit later in the episode, but first

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to talk about some of those big financial habits.

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<v Speaker 1>They you need to make front and center if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just getting started. So the first one is really to

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<v Speaker 1>pay yourself first. And most people end up saving with

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<v Speaker 1>what's left over every month, and typically there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot left over, so saving not only just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get prioritized, it gets left out of the equation altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>Paying yourself first is really this ultimate financial habit that

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<v Speaker 1>everything else hangs on. And if you can prioritize paying

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<v Speaker 1>yourself first, well you can start that emergency fund, you

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<v Speaker 1>can prioritize actually contributing to your four O one K

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<v Speaker 1>or I ra A, and you can also get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of pesky debt that's lingering. But that's an intentional decision,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a habit that needs to be formed, paying yourself first,

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<v Speaker 1>making that kind of a hallmark of how you handle

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<v Speaker 1>your finances. If you can reorder your priorities and develop

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<v Speaker 1>the habit of paying yourself first, that's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>major achievements that's going to serve you well for years

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<v Speaker 1>and years to come. Yeah, certainly, man like that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones that's kind of at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the food chain, right, and I don't want to gloss

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<v Speaker 1>over some of these other points that you mentioned right

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<v Speaker 1>in and of itself, Starting that emergency fund is a

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<v Speaker 1>great habit to have, right, because that allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>have that financial margin to where it feels like you're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually living paycheck to paycheck. And then when you

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<v Speaker 1>have that extra money that you can contribute towards retirement,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to contribute to retirement because Social Security, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to cut it by the time you

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<v Speaker 1>get older. And then of course you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to achieve both of those things more efficiently if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have debt weighing you down. I think another

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<v Speaker 1>way to think of sort of those things too, is

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<v Speaker 1>like spending less than you actually make, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>have money in the bank, that gives you options to

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<v Speaker 1>do what it is that you want to do with

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<v Speaker 1>your money, like whatever that happens to be, it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you the ability to do that. And so, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another sort of broad way to think about it. Spend

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<v Speaker 1>less than you make. Yeah, another habit that's good to

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<v Speaker 1>form when it comes to how you handle your money.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the big ones is tracking your incoming and

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<v Speaker 1>your outgoing money. If you don't know where your money

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<v Speaker 1>is going, it's hard to course correct. By tracking and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually getting into having a budget, you can spend your

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<v Speaker 1>money more mindfully. You become in charge of your money

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to your money ruling the decisions you make.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about some of the best methods for tracking

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<v Speaker 1>and budgeting. We love mint, it's great for tracking. Whine

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<v Speaker 1>App is this amazing budgeting app, and dollar Bird is

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<v Speaker 1>another cool app that you can download to track your spending.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've had trouble developing the habit of tracking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>use one of those tools to help you out. But

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<v Speaker 1>tracking where your money goes is one of those essential

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<v Speaker 1>habits that you have to form. Yeah, so when you

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<v Speaker 1>have these specific numbers that allows you to set specific goals, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you could still, for instance, save money without tracking your

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<v Speaker 1>income and your expenses. But it's sort of this amorphous

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<v Speaker 1>blob and that you're trying to kind of tackle the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be difficult versus if you're using software, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're even if you're writing out your expenses on a

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<v Speaker 1>legal pad. Right, you still have hard numbers and you

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<v Speaker 1>can literally take that legal pad and pin that to

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<v Speaker 1>the wall and say, cool, we are this close to

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<v Speaker 1>achieving our goal. Like we're this close to hitting that number.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna really be able to whip your finances into

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<v Speaker 1>shape if you are tracking and budgeting in. Another big

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<v Speaker 1>overarching money habit that we think is important is to

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<v Speaker 1>work on being content with what you have. We are

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<v Speaker 1>a money podcast, and I think this isn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>be something that you hear often, right, contentment, gratitude, these

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<v Speaker 1>are things that you typically here. But taking the time

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<v Speaker 1>to be thankful for the things you have, right, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your car or say you have a tiny apartment, but

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<v Speaker 1>that can make you happy with what you have. Wanting

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<v Speaker 1>less is really key and important to saving more. So

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<v Speaker 1>we would really suggest making gratitude a habit that you

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<v Speaker 1>try to cultivate daily. Yeah. I think there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways that you can incorporate gratitude into your life,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's taking a few minutes in the morning to

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<v Speaker 1>just realize to look around you and to be truly

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<v Speaker 1>thankful for friends, family, health, health, yeah, space where you live,

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<v Speaker 1>a car that gets you to and fro even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not ideal, even if it's a little beat up.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all these things that we have and we

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<v Speaker 1>forget to be thankful, and that thankfulness can severely curb

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<v Speaker 1>our desire to spend and be a major influence on

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<v Speaker 1>what we're able to save. And the next step that

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<v Speaker 1>I think even enhances this ability to be content with

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<v Speaker 1>what you have is is to give away a portion

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<v Speaker 1>of what you make. It sounds like the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>saving money, Joel, but it is this and we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before, Matt quite a while back on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is this thing that happens as you begin

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<v Speaker 1>to not only give of your time and get but

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<v Speaker 1>also to give of your money that gives you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a healthy detachment from your money. It makes it

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<v Speaker 1>easier to be content with less. It makes it easier

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<v Speaker 1>not to focus on the things that you want or

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you don't have, but to actually truly

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<v Speaker 1>be content with the things that you have as you

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<v Speaker 1>see your money go to work in beautiful ways in

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<v Speaker 1>the community around you, in on profits that are serving others.

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<v Speaker 1>In my mind, that is one of the biggest habits

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<v Speaker 1>that we can cultivate to basically just help us to

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<v Speaker 1>have a healthier view of money overall. Man. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime we talk about this, I can't help but to

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<v Speaker 1>think of Gollum right from the Probbit Lord of the Rings, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or Schniegel right, like, we don't want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>person who is so obsessed and infatuated with our treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Are precious our our money to where it dictates our

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<v Speaker 1>life and it controls who we are, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to be generous, and so where that becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the focus of our life. On the surface, that seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a podcast that Gollum would love, right, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important for us to step back and reframe

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then and to remind ourselves to hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto our possessions loosely with with open hands, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no guarantee that will continue, that we will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain that wealth or that money. Yeah. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Gollum's a listener. I hope he is, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the cool thing about working on being content

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<v Speaker 1>with what you have, developing that as a habit in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. It's something that anyone can do. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if you are living paycheck to paycheck, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that in episode seventy three. But but basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of being content with what you have and

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<v Speaker 1>giving away at least a tiny portion of what you have, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that can even just mean your time, and that can

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<v Speaker 1>put you on a trajectory to doing more and more

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<v Speaker 1>over time as you get your finances in a healthier place.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not that you have to have a massed

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount in order for this to be a

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<v Speaker 1>reality in your life. You can prioritize these things as

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<v Speaker 1>a habit, paying yourself first, tracking your spending, and working

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<v Speaker 1>on being content with what you have now, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>where you are on the financial spectrum. So I find

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<v Speaker 1>that to be encouraging. Yeah, that's so great. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk more. We're gonna talk how to specifically create lasting,

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<v Speaker 1>life changing habits. But first let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Matt, we're back, and we just talked about

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<v Speaker 1>some of those major overarching financial habits that need to

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<v Speaker 1>be implemented to kind of get the ball rolling. And

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<v Speaker 1>now let's talk about kind of connecting some of the

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge that we already have and how we implement and

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<v Speaker 1>some of those things in our lives. Yeah, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just implementing it into our lives, but doing that regularly, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what makes that habit is when we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that just day after day after day. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And so one of the first things that you might

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking, well, you might have some bad habits that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get rid of, and I think sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down taking the time to recognize some of the bad

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<v Speaker 1>habits the way some of your major money issues flare

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<v Speaker 1>up in your life because of some of the habits

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<v Speaker 1>you've formed along the way. Maybe if you've had a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day, you soothe that over by going on a

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<v Speaker 1>shopping spree. I'm not sure what that looks like in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, but seeing and identifying is that first step

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<v Speaker 1>to changing. And so one of the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier was to track your spending. That is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the easiest ways to recognize some of those bad

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<v Speaker 1>habits that you've incurred in your life. And once you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to see those like in black and white on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>then it makes it so much easier to actually start

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<v Speaker 1>to change those bad habits that have become ingrained. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said earlier, man, you can't course correct unless

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually see where you currently are. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I love budgets and tracking you're spending so much,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can so clearly see, like it really

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<v Speaker 1>is black and white. You can see the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>a good month and a bad month, or when you've

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<v Speaker 1>gone over budget and entertainment. That's why I love tracking

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<v Speaker 1>so much. But there are also things that we have

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives that are a little more difficult to identify.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are things that you're not going to see

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<v Speaker 1>on your monthly budget or in your spending. What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of here are maybe just attitudes that folks might

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<v Speaker 1>have towards let's just say investing, Like if you have

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a mistrust or a fear towards investing, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of in the back of your mind, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how you view money in general, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you view the stock market because maybe you had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad experience at some point, or you know somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that did well. A bad habit that might form out

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<v Speaker 1>of that is you're afraid to invest in the stock market,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably a really bad habit for you to have.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to be invested in the stock market, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to be exposing ourselves to the ups and downs

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<v Speaker 1>of the market now while we're building our wealth for

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<v Speaker 1>the long term. Yeah. Man, it makes me think about

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<v Speaker 1>our interview that we did with her Meat Sadie and

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about these money scripts that have been ingrained

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<v Speaker 1>in our heads, sometimes from from youth, sometimes experiences with

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<v Speaker 1>with parents, things that were said at the dinner table.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the experience of a friend who lost it

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<v Speaker 1>all in some sort of crazy venture starting a business,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then you assume entrepreneurship equals bad, or someone

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<v Speaker 1>that you know who invested in a single stock lost

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<v Speaker 1>at all, investing therefore equals bad. And those experiences that

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<v Speaker 1>we've had in the past haven't direct influence on how

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<v Speaker 1>we handle our money now, Yeah, they shape us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we have to develop habits. And part of

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<v Speaker 1>that course correction involves a little bit of knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of understanding the right way to go

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<v Speaker 1>about some of those things. Right, investing in a single

0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.199
<v Speaker 1>stock is typically bad, and investing in something like uh

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<v Speaker 1>total stock market index fund is a much better way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. But yes, recognizing those bad habits, those money scripts,

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<v Speaker 1>will have massive effects on your ability to actually develop

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful habits that will help you in your money life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and again to do that, it just takes time. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>tracking your spending like, that's easy, you can do that

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and you see the numbers on paper. But some

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<v Speaker 1>of these more maybe deeper seated beliefs and those instances,

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<v Speaker 1>it might just take some time, some self reflection. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's hard for us these days to afford

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves some time to sit and be seemingly unproductive, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's just so important and that really might be what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes. Yes, So another way to create lasting, life

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<v Speaker 1>changing habits is to start easy. Biting off more than

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<v Speaker 1>you can chew is definitely a recipe for failure or

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<v Speaker 1>sliding back into old, unhelpful habits that you've had. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you have a problem with impulse purchases. So

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<v Speaker 1>start easy with a twenty four hour rule and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, if I put this in my card,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to wait twenty four hours before I can

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<v Speaker 1>actually follow through and make the purchase. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an easy method, a twenty four hour method, but work

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<v Speaker 1>towards instituting a seventy two hour rule before you make

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<v Speaker 1>your purchase. That is an even bigger hurdle to climb,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit harder to do. So anyway that

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<v Speaker 1>you can start easy in developing a habit, go small

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. It's going to make it much more

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<v Speaker 1>likely that that habit is going to stick, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of intensify that habit further on down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be all or nothing, yeah, Jule.

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<v Speaker 1>Another example I'm thinking of is we talk all the

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<v Speaker 1>time of how important it is to save for retirement.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is, though, is that it's a little more

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<v Speaker 1>complicated to save towards retirement, to open that i ra A,

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<v Speaker 1>to enroll in your work sponsored four ohn k. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little more complicated to do those things than it

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<v Speaker 1>is to just put a little bit of money aside

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<v Speaker 1>in a savings account. So again, start small. Just start

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<v Speaker 1>chipping away a little bit of money off of your

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<v Speaker 1>paycheck every single pay period, and before you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a couple thousand dollars that you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to invest. Because you have seen the

0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.280
<v Speaker 1>aggregation of these small games. You've seen all these small

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.679
<v Speaker 1>winds pile up into something big, and that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of encouragement. I know that I need that really hammers

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<v Speaker 1>home and solidify as a habit. And yeah, man, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many great apps out there. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Acorns before on the show. That's a perfect example, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bank of America has something similar called Keep

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<v Speaker 1>the Change. There are all sorts of different apps out

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<v Speaker 1>there that can help you with this. If you need

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<v Speaker 1>a little help and you find it hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>the motivation, just signing up for Acorns and making something

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<v Speaker 1>like that happen is a fantastic way to start small

0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and make it easy for yourself, So Joel, another way

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<v Speaker 1>that we can still to defy these habits and make

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<v Speaker 1>them lifelong habits is to try to adapt a behavior

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<v Speaker 1>to your own way of seeing the world. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can identify a goal and there can be a number

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways to achieve that goal. Right, we want

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you to be creative. It could be that you've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen it done in a thoughtful way. Just because it

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<v Speaker 1>looks one way for others, right, that doesn't mean it

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<v Speaker 1>has to look that way for you. I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>the interview we had with Andy Hill and how the

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<v Speaker 1>way he was able to get his wife on board

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<v Speaker 1>was that instead of having these budget meetings, what they

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<v Speaker 1>would have and what they continue to have now our

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<v Speaker 1>budget parties, And I'm pretty sure he said they would

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<v Speaker 1>crack open a bottle of wine. They sit down there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's fun. It's not like this. It's not drudgery,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not monotonous. It's a lot of fun for them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so because of that, that allowed for those meetings

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<v Speaker 1>to become fun, and also it changed how they viewed budgets. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing is reframing, and you're essentially spinning it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too, to make it more fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get rid of the negative connotations associated

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<v Speaker 1>with how you view money, how you view budgeting, in

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<v Speaker 1>the ingrained habits that you have that are correlated to

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<v Speaker 1>my me, then you have such a better chance of

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<v Speaker 1>adapting your behavior to make a change that's gonna last

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna make a real impact on your financial future.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so many of us have this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>budgets have to be terrible, and a conversation about money

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<v Speaker 1>with our spouse has to be a fight or has

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<v Speaker 1>to be hard, And I think something like the way

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Andy handles it with his wife. The way they approach

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<v Speaker 1>it together, it's a game changer. It's just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>easier to get together, to actually have that conversation, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're bound to make more progress because you're having fun

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<v Speaker 1>while you're doing it. Do you think that's also why

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<v Speaker 1>we have beer when we have re quod Our episodes?

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<v Speaker 1>Dull oh? Most definitely. It's more fun to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>money when you're having a beer, right, Yeah, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean except for with us. I mean beer and money

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>are both fun. So for us, it's like this upward

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<v Speaker 1>spiral of goodness. Yeah, man. And for me, just another

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<v Speaker 1>example of the way I've been able to adapt a

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<v Speaker 1>behavior to to fit my lifestyle is biking to work. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the desire to go to the gym

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<v Speaker 1>and workout like it's just honestly, it's not gonna happen.

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>And so if I don't bike to work, I'm essentially

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get any exercise that week. So biking

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<v Speaker 1>to work. And another thing that I'm trying to implement

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<v Speaker 1>now into my rides is stopping at this point in

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<v Speaker 1>the park where there's a pull up bar, doing a

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<v Speaker 1>few pull ups, hopping back on my bike and keeping

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<v Speaker 1>on riding into work. Look at you, right, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's these kind of things that my boy Joe

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<v Speaker 1>is getting swollen. Yeah, it's gonna be a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is just habit, right that I'm trying to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just one of those things that is so

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<v Speaker 1>much easier if I adapted in the way that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to work for me, as opposed to trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fit a square peg in a round hole and doing

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone else says works for them. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figure out the way that it works for

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<v Speaker 1>me because that's the only way it's actually gonna get done.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, man. I think that's great, And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's true for you because I know that you've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned seeing those dudes before doing pull ups on the

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<v Speaker 1>way to work, and so obviously it's something that resonated

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Right, Like you're riding your bike, you see

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<v Speaker 1>them working out, and it's not that they're doing it

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<v Speaker 1>in public to show off, but like they're utilizing the

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<v Speaker 1>equipment that's there in the park. It's it's equipment that

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<v Speaker 1>the city has installed. It's a part of our landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the way to work. This is something that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do, like all these things are lining

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<v Speaker 1>up and makes so much sense to hop off the

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<v Speaker 1>bike do some pull ups versus signing up for a

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<v Speaker 1>gym membership, which you wouldn't take advantage of evidence that

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you'd just be wasting your money. I think that's great. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So another thing that we would suggest to make meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>habits is to focus on the schedule, not the deadline.

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is that the end

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<v Speaker 1>goal can sometimes be really daunting, and instead we want

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<v Speaker 1>you to break those down into bite size steps. Speaking

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of bite size Matt talk, let's talk about meal planning.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you know that you need to be eating

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<v Speaker 1>more meals at home because dining out is crushing your budget,

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 1>You're spending way too much money every month because you

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<v Speaker 1>last minute decide there's nothing in the fridge. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it had I didn't plan a meal.

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<v Speaker 1>I I can't cook tonight, and because of that, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to eat well. Meal planning is a game changer.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically gives you the ability to create just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of steps that are going to help you form

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<v Speaker 1>a habit of being able to eat meals at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you sit down on Saturday morning to

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<v Speaker 1>map out what you want to eat for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the week, and then you do some grocery shopping

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday afternoon. You could even make a few of your

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<v Speaker 1>meals for that week on Sunday in order to have

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<v Speaker 1>them ready for the first few days of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Eat leftovers on Thursday, and make Friday you're going out

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<v Speaker 1>to eat night. Like we just mentioned, adapt this behavior

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<v Speaker 1>to the way that best fits you. But thinking your

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<v Speaker 1>head working on a schedule can allow you to implement

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<v Speaker 1>a habit like this that's going to save you money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>meal planning for the week that sounds like something I

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<v Speaker 1>do not want to do. It's it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>task that almost seems insurmountable, But breaking those up into small,

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<v Speaker 1>doable tasks is key to success. But something else to

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<v Speaker 1>consider is what's your plan if you end up failing?

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<v Speaker 1>Right and so, in this example, when you inevitably forgets

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<v Speaker 1>to plan a meal and you end up going out

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, what are you gonna do? Like? What are

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do next? We think it's important that you

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<v Speaker 1>make in a mantra to make sure to not do

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<v Speaker 1>it twice. You mess up once, but don't be yourself

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<v Speaker 1>up about it. We're human. We make mistakes. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what's important here is that we avoid the trap of perfectionism,

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<v Speaker 1>because oftentimes when we make one mistake, we think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's it, it's over the s throw in

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<v Speaker 1>the towel. I'm not gonna do it anymore, dude. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a serious problem that I have because I

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be very binary, like things are either black

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<v Speaker 1>and white, and so for me, it's hard to identify

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<v Speaker 1>things in the middle, like that kind of gray, murky area.

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<v Speaker 1>And so because that, it's easier for me just to

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<v Speaker 1>say no, I'm either doing this or I'm not doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>yes or no. But guess what, if you're actually trying

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward towards a positive habit, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get past those small little screw ups and keep moving forward. Yeah, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>if you miss a day of working out or you

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<v Speaker 1>screw up on your diet, it's so easy to go

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<v Speaker 1>down this slippery slope of saying whatever, Man, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm not doing that anymore. Had a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream. I guess I'm gonna eat the whole cart exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such an easy that's how I think. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>no joke, Well, that's such an easy thing for us

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<v Speaker 1>to do as humans. I think all of us, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you me, any of us, even I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>completely different in this. I see the whole world in

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<v Speaker 1>shades of gray. I'm not very black and white. But still,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, if I were to mess up

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<v Speaker 1>at something that I'm trying to do, it's really easy

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go down a path of saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Okay, I guess I'm just giving in. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's an inherently human trait. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to a forgive ourselves and be

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<v Speaker 1>get back on the horse. So we have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have a plan for what we do when we fail.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can devise a method for getting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>back on the horse, Let's say, if you did go

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<v Speaker 1>out to eat let's say three times that week and

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<v Speaker 1>he totally screwed up on meal planning, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a reset button that you can hit that helps you

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<v Speaker 1>that following Saturday to actually make sure that the next

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<v Speaker 1>week is different. That's crucial in establishing habits and making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you kind of hit that sixty day length

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<v Speaker 1>of time that we're shooting for in order to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that that habit sticks for the long term. All right, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about some more ways that you can

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<v Speaker 1>make good financial habits that will help determine a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>financial future, including one that involves your best buddy. Oh,

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, best buddy right across from me. Uh, let's

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>stick around, all right, Matt, Well back, we're talking about

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>financial habits. And we mentioned early on that habits becoming

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>grain the small things we do day after day, they

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>shape who we are, They shape who we become. And

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<v Speaker 1>so sometimes creating a good habit might mean breaking a

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>bad one. And I can't say the words breaking in

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>bad in the same sentence. You're gonna do this without

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>referencing my favorite television show of all time, probably That

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and Arrested Development top two. And apparently Netflix is making

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<v Speaker 1>a new movie, a Breaking Bad movie, which I'm a

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>little worried about. I gotta be honest, because those five

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 1>seasons of Breaking Bad, we're kind of under perfection, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's a chance that they might ruin it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm hoping that doesn't happen. But the problem there, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is didn't you just recently cancel Netflix, So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to sign up for that new customer sign up

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<v Speaker 1>bonus where you get to not pay for six months, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you're a new member. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix has a six month free trial, but hey, you

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>can give it a shot. If they did, that'd be awesome.

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Just put a new email addressing there. They won't know

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:47.959
<v Speaker 1>the difference. I think it's like seven I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like seven days. But okay, seven days whatever, seven days,

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<v Speaker 1>six months, it's all the same to me. I'll remember

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand time, all right. So the key to

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<v Speaker 1>breaking bad habits is replacement. Let's take, for example, on

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>line spending that that might be a bad habit for you.

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Often there's a queue and a craving associated with that habit,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and you get a rush by purchasing something online. Maybe

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you have a tendency to browse the internet for deals

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<v Speaker 1>when you've had a bad day, and so instead of

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<v Speaker 1>hopping on the internet and buying some things to compensate

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<v Speaker 1>for having a tough day, we'll maybe replace it with

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<v Speaker 1>a text to an old friend or colleague that you've

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>meant to keep in touch with, instead of doing something

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>negative and that also affects your finances in a bad way.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 1>What you're doing is you're replacing that with something positive,

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<v Speaker 1>with a conversation, with relationship building. So much of getting

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>rid of bad habits is replacement. It's taking out the bad,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>replacing it with something good. And then the next time

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that q hits, the next time you have a bad day,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you instantaneously, based on habit, decide to text or call

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>someone that you care about instead of the negative reaction

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that you previously pursued. And the added bonus of that too,

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is it kind of pulls you out of yourself, right,

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Like instead of just you being focused on your own

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff and your own things and your own money, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something positive that's kind of outward facing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. I mean, in an obvious non financial example

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to you, man, is I'm thinking of like smoking, right,

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>anyone that's trying to quit smoking, it's hard to actually

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>quit cold turkey. Isn't that why a lot of times

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>previous smokers like they chew a lot of gum, Because

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like you need sort of like that oral fixation, something

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>there to replace that habit, something there that you can

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of revert to anytime you sort of feel that urge,

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it's more natural and easier just to slot in that

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.719
<v Speaker 1>new habit. Yeah. Trying to kick that habit cold turkey

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<v Speaker 1>and not offering any sort of replacement for yourself, well,

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it just makes kicking the bad habit so much harder. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>In one of the best ways to solidify positive financial

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<v Speaker 1>habits is to consider joining up with a friend, right,

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<v Speaker 1>join forces were stronger together, you mean specifically, buddy, because

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<v Speaker 1>we we hold each other accountable. Right, I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>a non financial example is working out. You hear of

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits of cross fit, and not just cross fit,

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<v Speaker 1>but any type of working out. Any time you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to do a behavior like that with a friend, with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's gonna hold you accountable, with someone you have

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<v Speaker 1>to answer to, there's a much better chance of you succeeding.

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<v Speaker 1>While initially that might start out as sort of this

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<v Speaker 1>external pressure, over time, once those habits form, it becomes internalized,

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<v Speaker 1>and that accountability just becomes icing on top. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a bonus. Yeah, Man, our friendship we've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to to spare each other on as we discuss

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>different money topics. Right, And doing something with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>can just make swallowing that pill so much easier. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, let's say monthly money meetings. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>a partner, looking at the previous month's income and planning

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<v Speaker 1>the next month's expenses together in a monthly money meeting

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<v Speaker 1>is so helpful. It's such a good habit to develop together,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the monthly monotony of making it happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>but dreaming big and beginning to talk about money with

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<v Speaker 1>your partner is crucial to dreaming big about the goals

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<v Speaker 1>that you have and then setting about achieving those goals.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the two of you have the same focus,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are set in the same direction, the chances

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<v Speaker 1>of you achieving the goal that you've set out towards together, man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just such a greater chance of it happening. That's

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<v Speaker 1>true in like a marriage or a long term partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>And it can also be true if you're attempting your

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<v Speaker 1>own goal but you have someone else there to to

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<v Speaker 1>back you up who is also shooting for the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. And if sharing with a friend makes

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you maybe a little bit uncomfortable, well just know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not alone. They are probably pretty nervous too, but

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<v Speaker 1>challenging yourself to have more meaningful conversations can lead to

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper friendship in addition to having those strong financial habits.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that we've all seen that with the various

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<v Speaker 1>types of relationships we have. Anytime we're able to dive deeper, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're we're not just staying on the surface. It

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<v Speaker 1>just leads to a better outcome in general. All Right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what is the financial habit that

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<v Speaker 1>you've implemented in your life that has made the most difference. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel that I should say that teaming

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<v Speaker 1>up with a buddy, right, I feel like you're setting

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<v Speaker 1>me up here. You don't have to say that. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to say that pressure because like it's true though,

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<v Speaker 1>like you and me being able to have these money conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we started this podcast. Every time we got together,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about our finances, We're talking talking about personal finance,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about ways that we can hopefully be frugal

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<v Speaker 1>and not cheat. Those have all been ways that have

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<v Speaker 1>made this way more fun. But for me, man, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that has had the largest impact is not only

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<v Speaker 1>tracking my spending, but budgeting every single month. Having started

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<v Speaker 1>that over a decade ago, I can't imagine this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of compounding benefits that I've realized over the years by

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<v Speaker 1>being able to whip my finances into shape by giving

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<v Speaker 1>every single dollar a name. For me and Kate, that

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<v Speaker 1>truly has been life changing for us. But yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Yeah, I mean, I think, honestly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to sound altruistic or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>for me, giving away a portion of what we have

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<v Speaker 1>every single month and creating the habit of doing that

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<v Speaker 1>has really helped my attachment to money, because I think

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this on the show before, I had like

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<v Speaker 1>an unhealthy attachment towards money. I think for a while

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<v Speaker 1>I was overly frugal and tried to hang on to

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<v Speaker 1>everything I got, and so developing a habit of giving

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<v Speaker 1>away a portion of what I had helped me to

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<v Speaker 1>see money in a better light as the tool that

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<v Speaker 1>it is and as something that can be used in

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<v Speaker 1>a positive way in the lives of people around me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, I think that's honestly been the

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<v Speaker 1>most important money habit that I've developed over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know it's gonna be different for everyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think there are a lot of good things

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<v Speaker 1>for people to to strive towards based on what we've

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about in this episode, and I hope this is

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<v Speaker 1>helpful as people try to implement money habits into their

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<v Speaker 1>lives to create a more robust financial future for themselves.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, this has been a fun episode, but the

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<v Speaker 1>fund is not over. I'm gonna kick it back to

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<v Speaker 1>the beer because we're gonna talk about the Heaty Topper

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<v Speaker 1>that you and I were able to share. This is

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<v Speaker 1>by the Alchemists and donated to the show by Cameron

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta. He lives over on the West Side.

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>He said, Man, he's over there by the money Like Garage.

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of great breweries that are popping up

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<v Speaker 1>over there. So so Cameron, I'm a little jealous of you,

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<v Speaker 1>but thank you so much for donating this beer to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Joel, what were your thoughts on hetty Topper? Well, first,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say we deliberately disobeyed the Alchemist's orders.

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<v Speaker 1>On the top of the can, it says drink from

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the can, and you know what, we poured it in

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<v Speaker 1>a glass. So we gotta share these though we're we're

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>rebels without a cost. Dude, I feel bad, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be passing this can back and forth. So

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>we definitely we definitely poured the beer. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. Man. This was a somewhat floral I p

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<v Speaker 1>a fruit forward in my opinion, but with no fruit

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.720
<v Speaker 1>in it. It's just the hops giving it those fruit

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>and notes. And it had this really nice slightly bitter

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<v Speaker 1>finished not overly bitter. It was just a super well

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>rounded I p A that had just a tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of flavor, a beer that you can tell that was

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<v Speaker 1>just brewed with a lot of passion. It truly is

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<v Speaker 1>an epic beer, no wonder it's got a cult following.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was super tasty. Yeah, this is a legendary beer.

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<v Speaker 1>The hot presence that it had, it really was wave

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<v Speaker 1>after a wave of different hot flavors. When I first

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>took the sip, I think I made three different uh Like,

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>there's just these multiple waves of flavor that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cascaded onto my tongue and I love that. With it

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<v Speaker 1>being a double, I felt like it was pretty bitter,

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but it was super balanced at the same time. There

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>was just that a lot of that hot flavor going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. It did almost have sort of a

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>fruit eatness to it, but it was like a fruity

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<v Speaker 1>dankness that I was picking up from the hops. Yeah, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a great one. I'm really happy that we

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 1>were able to share this one together on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have some final thoughts for us? Yeah, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>financial habits such an important conversation, and just really quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>just want to remind folks that it's important to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out which financial habits you want to prioritize and then

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<v Speaker 1>take meaningful steps to implementing those habits. Don't forget to

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<v Speaker 1>start easy, don't bite off more than you can chew,

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<v Speaker 1>so that those habits actually stick and they don't fall

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<v Speaker 1>by the wayside. Yeah, and then don't forget to join

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<v Speaker 1>up with a buddy. When you have that accountability there

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<v Speaker 1>for you, you're going to be much more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve your financial goals. So, Joel Man, that's gonna be it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for this episode, this has been a fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find our show notes up on our website

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<v Speaker 1>at how to money dot com. Yeah, and if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been listening to the show for a while and you

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>found it helpful. We would love it if you would

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<v Speaker 1>consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. All right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,