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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Golf Live

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Speaker 1: right here on giants dot Com. I am John Schmalkis

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Speaker 1: pauled the Tino. It's all presented by cores Light. The

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Speaker 1: phone number for you to be a part of the

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Speaker 1: show is to four five one three. Hashtag Giants Chat

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Speaker 1: on Twitter if you want to get in touch with

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Speaker 1: us that way you can. We'll get to your tweets

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Speaker 1: over the course of the program. Giants coming off a

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Speaker 1: very dramatic thirty one to win over the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots to wrap up their preseason, The Giants go four oh,

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Speaker 1: which means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 1: which is fine, but it's always about player evaluation and Paul,

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Speaker 1: this time a year, you're trying to evaluate who's going

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Speaker 1: to fill out those last handful of spots on your

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Speaker 1: final fifty three. We will give you our final fifty

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Speaker 1: threes later on in the show if you want to

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Speaker 1: call in. We're not taking your full fifty three because

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Speaker 1: that might make me want to slam my face into

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Speaker 1: the wall, but we will take some of your bold

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Speaker 1: predictions on who might make the final roster over the

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Speaker 1: course of the program. No, if a cooler tries to

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Speaker 1: give me all fifty three players on the roster, I

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Speaker 1: will smash my face into the wall and it will

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Speaker 1: be warranted. So feel free to give us a call

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Speaker 1: or get hit us up on Twitter at hashtag. Bas

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Speaker 1: just gave Charlie an open invitation. No, but if I

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Speaker 1: do that, then he's gonna have to do with Lance,

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Speaker 1: so trust me, and I don't think that's in his

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Speaker 1: best interest either. All right, Paul, let's start with last night.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously the fourth preseason game. The Giants didn't play,

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Speaker 1: not only any of their starters, anybody that would play

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Speaker 1: close to a consistently large role on game day, it seemed,

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Speaker 1: didn't play in this game. So I not gonna take

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Speaker 1: a whole lot out of it in terms of how

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Speaker 1: the season is gonna play out. But what are some

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Speaker 1: of the things you noted over the course of the

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Speaker 1: game that you think will impact the final fifty three?

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Speaker 1: We should just put an asterisk. Golden Tate did play.

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Speaker 1: Good point one starter did play. He got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of action because obviously he's going to have to

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Speaker 1: had missed a couple of games with that concussion, so

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Speaker 1: coach Water to get him in there a little, which

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Speaker 1: makes sense. He played He played eight snaps by the

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Speaker 1: one now and and I might add Coach Bill Bilichick

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Speaker 1: played the Various Thomas, played Josh Gordon, and played Julian Edelman.

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Speaker 1: So remember those guys hadn't played yet in the seasons.

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Speaker 1: Who you wanted them to get some type of flow going.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying just for clarifications, you know, there were a

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Speaker 1: who found their way into the starting lineup last night,

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Speaker 1: which you know, was just kind of nice to at

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Speaker 1: Zamort lining up opposite him when's dinner? Yeah? Really a

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Speaker 1: uh and and and you know what, just for the

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Speaker 1: numerologist's sake. The Giants were four or old last time

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Speaker 1: in the preseason in two thousand six, Tom Coughlin led

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Speaker 1: doesn't really mean anything anyway with you. So takeaways on

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Speaker 1: the final fifty three from last night? What he got? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had asked coach Shermer, if you remember John,

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Speaker 1: the preseason to a horse race, and we didn't hear

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Speaker 1: how likely is it that a guy could suddenly have

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Speaker 1: Not to say that the final few spots weren't up

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Speaker 1: I believe that Alonso Russell solidified his spot on the

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Speaker 1: he did nothing in the return game. No, he had

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Speaker 1: That was the one at the end of the second

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Speaker 1: Alonso Russell had fifteen targets last I wrote this in

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Speaker 1: you keep the draft pick over the veteran. So I

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Speaker 1: have Chris Layten as my six defensive lineman. I took

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Speaker 1: Slayton for a different reason. And by the way, all

431
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Speaker 1: of the rest of our alignment are on the same page.

432
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Speaker 1: I have six defensive lineman and I'm keeping Slayton because

433
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Speaker 1: I do think there's more ups there. John Jenkins is

434
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Speaker 1: a veteran who's been around this league for half a

435
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: dozen That was my point if you picked the draft pick,

436
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Speaker 1: because he has more upside, And unfortunately for him, the

437
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 1: last two preseason games, um, the performance kind of went

438
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Speaker 1: the other way. I thought he was better in training

439
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: camp early, and I thought the first two preseason games

440
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: he made plays. The last two preseason games, I mean,

441
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Speaker 1: David Deal was in our booth last night in the

442
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Speaker 1: radio boots and he was a critical of his play.

443
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 1: David was having a lot of trouble at how Jenkins

444
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 1: was not holding the point of attack very well. And

445
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: when you're doing that against what the third and fourth

446
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: stringers of the Patriots, that's not a good sign. Edge rushers,

447
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Easy Ones, Lorenzo Carter, Marcus Golden, Ocean, Zimmenez and Kareem Martin,

448
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: I think at just four, which is what I have.

449
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: By the way of those four, I have four, I

450
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: feel like your light at that position. But I don't

451
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: think anyone else currently on the roster is good enough

452
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Speaker 1: to be number five, So I think that's another spot.

453
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: And here's the problem that we're talking about offensive tackles

454
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Speaker 1: and edge rushers. You know what positions good players don't

455
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: become available at ever, Pass rusher and offensive tackle. I'm serious.

456
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't mean to be funny, but it's true. It's

457
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: two of the most valuable positions still cornerback into the mixture.

458
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: Cornerbacks generally don't become available either, so it's gonna be

459
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: tough to find these guys. But I just don't especially

460
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: with with Kean Adams, who was kind of the next

461
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Speaker 1: guy getting hurt in the game, I don't see who

462
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: year fifth guy can be. Let me put it to

463
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Speaker 1: you this way, John, at least the Giants now have

464
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Speaker 1: starters at those positions who they feel good about, and

465
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Speaker 1: they're only worried about depth. There have been some years

466
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Speaker 1: where the starters weren't exactly rock solid at those key positions.

467
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Speaker 1: So I have four. It's the same four as you

468
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Speaker 1: have my next man up at that spot, the guy

469
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Speaker 1: I was hoping for. I don't think he's shown enough though,

470
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Speaker 1: just not at all show enough production in the games.

471
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Speaker 1: And my opinion the spot thirty six snaps last night,

472
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: the snaps actually showed a little bit more inside than outside,

473
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Speaker 1: believe it or not, the last couple of weeks. And

474
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Speaker 1: I like his skill set, I really do. And he's

475
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Speaker 1: a great kid, by the way. I love me really

476
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Speaker 1: good guy. I hope he's on the team and and

477
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if if he's even willing

478
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Speaker 1: to be on the practice squad this year. He may

479
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Speaker 1: have had enough in terms of running out of patients.

480
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Speaker 1: Is he I mean, is he eligib believing? I think

481
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Speaker 1: he probably is. Well. He would be eligible for for

482
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Speaker 1: one of the exception spots for sure. But three year

483
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: is in now, and he's had a lot of injuries,

484
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Speaker 1: and unfortunately the production just does not equate with my

485
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: hope for him, and so I don't have him on

486
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Speaker 1: the fifty three, which really disappoints me. Inside linebacker Ala Gogletree,

487
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Speaker 1: T Davis, Ryan Connelly. Those are the easy ones. The

488
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Speaker 1: fourth one is difficult. You've got b J. Goodson, you

489
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Speaker 1: have Jonathan Anderson, and you have Josiah Tawa Ea as

490
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Speaker 1: the third guy now back in the spring. So I'm

491
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Speaker 1: gonna little personal bias get into the mix here. C. J.

492
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: Conrad was you're undrafted for agent to make the team, Well,

493
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Speaker 1: twa fa was mine and I don't. And here's my

494
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Speaker 1: thinking with this. If I'm the Giant general manager, whoever

495
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Speaker 1: the fourth guy is, if you're picking the veteran, isn't

496
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Speaker 1: somebody that I think is going to be a difference

497
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Speaker 1: maker for you. So if you believe someone like tawaa

498
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: coming out of a smaller school, has the speed and

499
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Speaker 1: physical skills to become a player down the road, you

500
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Speaker 1: do not want to expose him to waivers. So I'm

501
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Speaker 1: putting Tawa f on as my fourth inside linebacker and

502
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Speaker 1: I'm just keeping four. I have three Ogletree, Connolly and Davis.

503
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: That's there. Here's why that's light. Here's why that's light.

504
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: I have eleven defensive backs. And after the fifty three

505
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: is solidified, okay, I'm going to be picking up an

506
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker to be my fourth guy. Going into the

507
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: Cowboys game, We're gonna lose somebody, and I'm losing a dB.

508
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: I have eleven dbs right, so no, I'm not sure

509
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Speaker 1: where the numbers are adding up. I have six, three, four, eleven.

510
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: I have twenty seven people on defense and special teams

511
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Speaker 1: and twenty five people on offense. That equates I have

512
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Speaker 1: twenty five on defense and then offense. I think I

513
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Speaker 1: have twenty five as well. So anyway, we'll go through it.

514
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: But that's that. That's what I'm doing. I'm gonna wind up.

515
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: In all likelihood, Sam Beale is going to go on

516
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: the post fifty three injured reserve short term that I

517
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Speaker 1: can bring him back. And when I do that, I'm

518
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: picking up an inside linebacker. So I will bring four

519
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: inside linebackers onto the roster for the Cowboys game, but

520
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it Saturday. Cornerbacks six Generes, Jenkins, DeAndre Baker,

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00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: Corey Ballentine, Grant Haley, Sam Deal, Antonio Hamilton's. This was

522
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Speaker 1: one of the easier positions to be the sort through. Yeah. Um,

523
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Speaker 1: let's see, I had Jenkins, Peppers, bal Balantine, Baker, Hamilton's,

524
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Speaker 1: Thomas Haley, Chandler Love, and Buffet. Okay, and that includes

525
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Speaker 1: my five safeties, which is Bafet Pepper's Thomas Love and Chandler.

526
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're we're completely in sync there on the

527
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Speaker 1: defensive backs. And then specialists you got Diaz Dixon and

528
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Speaker 1: Rosas Kenny Ladler. I think of somebody that's a very

529
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Speaker 1: very big practice squad candidate, maybe even a possible for

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Speaker 1: the fifty three. I think him and Sean Chandler are

531
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Speaker 1: probably competing for that last spot on the active fifty three.

532
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at with that, and I think

533
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Speaker 1: that's kind of where we are here. It wasn't very difficult,

534
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: but I think, unlike last year, some of the players

535
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: the Giants let go this season, Paul have a good

536
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: chance of being picked up by other teams. Well, I mean,

537
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example. You look at the

538
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: receiving corps and you know there's potential there in Reggie White,

539
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they'd like to bring him back to

540
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: the practice squad if they could. I know I certainly would.

541
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Speaker 1: But there were some weak depth charts at the receiving

542
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: spot around the NFL. It would not be shocking to

543
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: me if somebody said, you know what, Reggie White is

544
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: better than our fifth or six guy, and we're gonna

545
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: claim him. That wouldn't shock me. Hey, Paul, I got

546
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: good news for you. You only have twenty four defensive

547
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: players here. You can add to the player to your roster.

548
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Six and three is nine, and four is thirteen, and

549
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: eleven is twenty four and three is seven. Yeah, and

550
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: go to the other side. That's what is that? Equal

551
00:26:52,600 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: five and twenty seven? Two? Thanks Converticus. It's gonna get

552
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: your calculator. No, wait a second. When I said and

553
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: twenty seven before, how come you didn't stop me? Then

554
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: I thought you said and three, which made fifty three? No, No,

555
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't know you can have a defensive player on

556
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: giving you another guy. You should be happy you're gonna

557
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: give me another guy. I'm not giving it to you.

558
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: Math is giving it to you. Thank Pythagoras. M M,

559
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: so I get another guy. Boy, you're gonna pick a

560
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: fourth insidelnebacker. You know what what are you putting on?

561
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: They love they do stupor on special teams. He got

562
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: a concussion the other night? Did they love him on

563
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: special teams? In fact, he's universally liked by his teammates,

564
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: and they believe he is the leader of the special

565
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: team squad. So I probably will go with him. Then

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Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go to the extra guy on stupor

567
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: how did I get that? You're right? Is fifty two,

568
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: So so I restricted myself of a fifty third player.

569
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: I actually made myself whittle it down to fifty two.

570
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, you're not the general manager. I know i'd

571
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: be shorthanded going into opening day. Well, you're are shorthand

572
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: in another way, so that makes sense. Two one four,

573
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: five one three hashtag giant chat on Twitter. If you

574
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: want to get in touch with this that way you can.

575
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: And we got no sleep for a little cranky. What

576
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: can I tell you. Let's go to the calls and

577
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: lead off. Oh, we got four people that we don't

578
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: get a lot of calls from on the line. I

579
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: love that. Let's go to Peter in the Florida Keys.

580
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: He'll lead us off today. Hey Peter, what's up? Guys?

581
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? So it's definitely the combat

582
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: for the storm. We have a cat for hurricane that's

583
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna hit in the next couple of days, and I

584
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: needed a break. Good luck to you. Be be safe, sir,

585
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: be safe, thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's gonna hit

586
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Speaker 1: four law of Dale Direct according to the latest project

587
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: oh boy, oh yeah, um and one thing, give you

588
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: guys a quick calling to talk to a couple of

589
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: points about the game that we just experience. Couple of things.

590
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I was very surprised that dan Or Jones only had

591
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: one soon. I was expecting a lot more from him.

592
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm surprised why he will play more? You know these, Peter,

593
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I honestly, Peter, I can give you the reason real quick. One,

594
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty comfortable with what he's shown. And two,

595
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: they didn't want to have him sitting behind that backup

596
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: offensive line for too many plays and put the kid

597
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: at risk. So I think those are the two major

598
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: reasons why he only played one series. Okay, the other

599
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: the other thing I was very very surprised about, and

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00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: I've been looking for it. In the four games I

601
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: was expecting. You know, he had thirty four passes, right,

602
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I do not remember wance reaction ran and obviously we

603
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: know what he can do. We saw them in you

604
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: know college breaking us. No, no, no, he he did not.

605
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: He did not run forward. The only rush I think

606
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: he was credited for was it was a rush that

607
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: was off of a pressure in fact, it was he's

608
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: credited for one rush for zero yards because he got

609
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: back to the line of scrimmage on pressure in the pocket.

610
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: He did not take off and run with the ball

611
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: at all during the preseason, and I applaud that in fact,

612
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: standing ovation for me, because that's the last thing in

613
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: the world you need from him. You don't like running

614
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks Paul in the preseason, especially, please. He did some

615
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: of it in a training camp though, I mean, he's

616
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: a little show. He showed a little bit of that

617
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: a camp. And the scary part about it is that

618
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: he actually has a second gear. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of design runs for Daniel Jones.

620
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I think you might see it occasionally. You might see

621
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: the read option or something like that. But yeah, of

622
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: course if he's not doing it on the bench. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I don't think that's gonna be

624
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Speaker 1: something that they're going to do prominently. But it's quite

625
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: finely Chris. They value him so much as a passer,

626
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: you just don't want to risk injury by putting the

627
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: ball in his hands and having a bunch of huge

628
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: defensive guys piling on him. If you have any doubts

629
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Speaker 1: about his running ability. To look at some of the

630
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: tape at Duke when if he gets into the back

631
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: seven to sixty yard runs in that one, the truth

632
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: didn't matter is he can actually have run a while

633
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: of those guys you can finish, you know. So it's

634
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy because the kid does not look

635
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: like a rookie. He looks like a poised vet back there,

636
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: because what do you see when you have these rookies

637
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: there when the hockey collapsed, if they just run and

638
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: he asked experiencedly in college, I'm sorcked. He actually looks

639
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's exceeded my high expectations of a variety.

640
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: So I'm about controllward. That's good, Chris. And one thing

641
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll say about this, you know, when we evaluated Daniel Jones,

642
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: and we'll see how our overall evaluations you know, are

643
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: tested against you know, time. But the one thing we

644
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: did say is that we considered him a fairly safe

645
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: pick because of the system he came out of. It's

646
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: coaching there, and we didn't think there was anything that

647
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: was a huge hole in his game that he couldn't do.

648
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: We were just wondering how good he was going to

649
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: be at the things that he did, which I still

650
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: think ive and he hasn't playing a regular season game

651
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: is something that we still have to find out and see, right,

652
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: But I think from our evaluation standpoint in terms him

653
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: and being a well rounded, fundamentally sound player, I think

654
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: that and well coached player, by the way, that's what's

655
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: showing up and why he's able to look so comfortable,

656
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: which is the point you've made, because a lot of

657
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: stuff they're asking to do in the pros, it's stuff

658
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: that David Cuckliffe did put him through to some extent

659
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: when he was at Duke and Frankly on a team

660
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: going against other teams with much better personnel. You know,

661
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: in short, if you really want to figure out how

662
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: to couch this, thank you appreciated. I had thought that

663
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: stay safe. Back in April, going into the draft, the

664
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: three most pro ready quarterbacks were Jones, Stidham, and Ryan Finley. Okay,

665
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: they were the most pro ready. Is it any wonder

666
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: that Jones and Stidham have been two of the best

667
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: preseason quarterbacks so far this summer, and Frankly Finley looked

668
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: good in that Bengals game too. Now, I didn't go

669
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: back and watch Stidham's twenty seven team tape like you did,

670
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: which is why I didn't have as good of a

671
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: feel for him. Business Albert's eighteen offense was a disaster, yes,

672
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: but I did not watch this seven team tape like

673
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: you did. And also when he interviewed UM, I heard

674
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: a lot of positives in terms of his confidence, his

675
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: football acumen, his demeanor, his ability not to panic, all

676
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: the things that you know you want in a quarterback,

677
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: especially if you're this organization, which is why he was

678
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: my second favorite quarterback for the Giants behind Jones. That

679
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: when I say this, this shouldn't surprise you if you

680
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: know anything about but you know the kind of stuff

681
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: that I'm going for, and he fits two, one, four

682
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: or five on three Chris and Syracuses. I'm next day,

683
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Chris doing great? Uh the press that you got the

684
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: four tight ends because we don't even have three on

685
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: the on the roster that I like. But you know,

686
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to see more from Conrad didn't ever really

687
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: get there, but I guess that that's okay. Um. I

688
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: was thinking, I thought that some of those corner is

689
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: actually held up halfway decent considering where they are on

690
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: the depth chart compared to who they were playing their

691
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: one on ones against. That was a little bit encouraging.

692
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: Unfair as well, I think to expect him to blanket

693
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: those veterans. Yeah, I thought that they did okay for

694
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: being as outmatched as what they were. Um, you know

695
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I don't think that they got totally abused that. Um.

696
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest love guy though, and I know

697
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: we all got love making the roster. That's gonna happen.

698
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: But so I just want to hit two more points.

699
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: I got real fast, by the way, just real quick,

700
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: real quick, Chris on Love from what I've seen so far,

701
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: and this is surprised me because I didn't expect this

702
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: going in. I feel more comfortable with him right now

703
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: as a safety than I do with him as a corner. Agreed, Yeah,

704
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same way, without a doubt. Um, okay,

705
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: So quick fold prediction. I think that this team is

706
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: anywhere between six and ten and ten and six. It's

707
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: not all that ball of the prediction. I think there's

708
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of dog fights. But here's where

709
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: the predict fault. I got them going nine and seven

710
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: and missing the playoffs in recent tragic traditions of the

711
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: New York just some reason, that's the feeling that I got,

712
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: and I also just wanted to stay real quick and

713
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: maybe get your guys thoughts. I know that Ellis had

714
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: by all reports are very very strong camp, and that's great,

715
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: But I think that he is just in an impossible

716
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: position right now where somehow, being a two time Super

717
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP going into a sixteen season, he's gonna stay

718
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: the underdogs. He's done an underdog his entire career, and

719
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: I really think that he is just in a really

720
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: tough spot right now where if things aren't going quite

721
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: right with everything that Jones did in the three season

722
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: and exceeded expectations, I don't see how you know they're

723
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to keep the Wolves at day.

724
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Um So I don't on what your guys thoughts are

725
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: on night, but it's exciting for the future. Sure, thanks,

726
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: thank you, Chris Hey, thank you for calling, and Chris

727
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: good stuff, good points. Look, it's not a matter of

728
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: keeping the Wolves at Bay. First of all, I think

729
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: the most important thing is to start fast. You start

730
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: the season one and four. Yeah, the clock starts taking

731
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: real fast, Yeah, real fast, and it might go off

732
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: a lot sooner than people think. But if you start

733
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: the season three and one, you know, it gives you

734
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot of wiggle room there. You lose a couple

735
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: in a row, you know, you lose the Patriots in

736
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: that Thursday night game, whatever, you're still right in the mix.

737
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: And I think the NFC, Paul, with so many quality teams,

738
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of teams hovering in that

739
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: eight and eight to ten in six space, it's gonna

740
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: be a lot of teams in that space. So I

741
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: think if you're hanging around five hundred, you're going to

742
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: be in the playoff race for a while. So that's

743
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: one part of the equation. The other part of the

744
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: equation is how well does he lie Manning play during

745
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: the year. And I'll be honest, the first two games

746
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: of the year are not going to be easy. Everyone

747
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: keeps talking about all these Dallas cowboys on offense that

748
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: haven't signed their contract and all that stuff. Well, the

749
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: reason that Cob was a good last year is because

750
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: their defense was so darn good. They have a good defense,

751
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: They rushed the past and they got good young defensive

752
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: backs and excellent linebackers. We did our Bills preview this

753
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: year in the off season. They have the best secondary

754
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: in football. So these first two games and I see

755
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: it coming a mile away. The offense, Paul might not

756
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: score a ton of points. It might be a tough

757
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: slog and you're gonna have a lot of shouts and

758
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: a lot of screams depending on the result of the games.

759
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: But you have to understand that those are the two

760
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: parts of the equation. It's the winning and then how

761
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: you're doing against the competition you're facing. I don't have

762
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: an argument with anything you said, but these are all

763
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: the parameters that we've outlined for the Giants quarterback story.

764
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Four months, nothing has changed. Eli looks great, Daniel Jones

765
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: looks great. It's Eli's team till otherwise, and that's it.

766
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, Washington and week four is a

767
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: pretty good defense, Minnesota in Week five has a pretty

768
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: good defense, and the Patriots in Week six have a

769
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: pretty good defense. MHM. It's not easy for the offense

770
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: the first six games. It's just not. If you're a

771
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: big Daniel Jones fan, let's just say you absolutely adore

772
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. And you want him to be the Giants

773
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, Well, you know what, the number one thing

774
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: you should root for is that he does sit behind

775
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Eli Manning not only for a year, but maybe for

776
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: two years, because that will help him in the long

777
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: run for the next ten to twelve years, be as

778
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: best as he can be. Like Aaron Rodgers soaked it

779
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: all in from bread fart. I'm not sure you need to.

780
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. My personal opinion, at least

781
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: one my personal opinion, if you get through eight to ten,

782
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I think you're in pretty good shape. To sixteen versus

783
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: ten make that big of a difference. I don't know

784
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: the answer to that. I really don't. It's hard for

785
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: me to tell. I've never been in a situation obviously,

786
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: and I haven't talked to anybody specifically about those numbers,

787
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: and probably did you know, vary some player to player,

788
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: but just on the keep in mind two five on three,

789
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Jeff and Huntington has been holding the longest, and then

790
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: Daniel Tampa up after him. Jeff, what's up? Hi? Hi, guys?

791
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: Um Mike call is regarding the concept of mentorship, because

792
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen a lot of articles about who

793
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: is mentoring who in this preseason and and even last year.

794
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean, when Jonathan Stewart came in, he was going

795
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: to be se Kwan Barkley's mentor, but then he got injured,

796
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: his performance was subpar, and we didn't really hear about

797
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: his mentorship after those you know experiences, and eventually he

798
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: left the team. And this year, you know, Alex Tanney

799
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: and Eli were going to be Uh Jones's mentor or

800
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: even Moletta and Uh and Alex Tanney had a halfway

801
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: decent first game and then his performance started to slip.

802
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: And so basically his performance last year, Stewart's performance, and

803
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: what about Antoine Basset Uh, he's thirty seven, thirty eight

804
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: years old. If his performance is not up to part,

805
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: is his mentorship going to be affected by his performance?

806
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: Basically I'm saying, I'm asking is, doesn't performance have to

807
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: do a lot for the team versus the mentorship that

808
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: they're trying to use with those of veterans with younger players.

809
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I'll be quick before I pass it off the Paul.

810
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: But then this is the bugaboo his um for a

811
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: guy like Alex Tanney, because he wasn't gonna play this

812
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: year regardless of his performance. Really, to me, doesn't make

813
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: much of a difference because he's just about teaching Daniel

814
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: Jones how to prepare right, and that's the most important

815
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: thing for him. Uh And again we'll see if he's

816
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 1: on the roster or not. But I think Alex Tanney

817
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: probably was a very valuable resource for Jones throughout the

818
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: spring in the summer in figuring out what the NFL

819
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: is all about. Now, eventually, you're right, you have to

820
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: play well to make the fifty three. Not making the

821
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: fifty three just to be some guy to to to

822
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: teach other guy to play. That's not how it works.

823
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: So you're right about that. Forgot like Bethet he's thirty

824
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: five by the way, Um he turned thirty five in July,

825
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: so he's young thirty five, he's if there's such now

826
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: that's okay, no worse, Um he he he is somebody,

827
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: fourteen year pro. He is somebody that they're depending on

828
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: to play well. This is not a Jonathan Steward deal

829
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: from last year where he's gonna get a new carries.

830
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna play the snaps. He's really really important.

831
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, antompathy. He better play well. The Giants need

832
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: him to play well, so and that I agree to.

833
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: In terms of Elie Manning specifically, I still Tanny is

834
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: more of a mentor because it's Eli's Manning's job each

835
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: week to get ready to play and win games. It's

836
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Jones's job to watch him, absorb what he does and

837
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: learn from that. This is any line Manning in front

838
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: of a chalkboard, you know, teaching Alex Tanny how to

839
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: play quarterback. And now I'll pass it off the poll. Here.

840
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I will add to that. Okay, Look,

841
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: every time we talk about an older who is a

842
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: pros pro and is around to provide a good influence

843
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: in the locker room and specifically to provide some aid

844
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: to the guys in his specific position group, we always

845
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: have to couch that with the fact that there may

846
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: be young guys in that room who mature quicker than

847
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: expected or come along quicker than expected, like Kuan last year.

848
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: Say Kwan did it last year. Okay, Daniel Jones has

849
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: already done it this year. I just got done on

850
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: WFAN a little while ago, saying that when the Giants

851
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: drafted Daniel Jones, I kind of expected Channing to be

852
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: the two for the first month of the season and

853
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: realistically figured maybe Jones would be the three until October

854
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to give him time for a

855
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: learning curve. Well, Daniel Jones threw that calendar out the

856
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: door months ago. It became apparent when they came to

857
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: training camp at the end of July he was already

858
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: the number two. Does he progressed so quickly? So this

859
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: whole mentoring thing is a fluid equation that has as

860
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: much to do with how fast the young kid matures

861
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: and progresses as it does having the value of the

862
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: older sage in the room. I hope that makes sense

863
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: to you. Any Daniel Jones will learn Jeff from Eli

864
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and how to prepare for a regular season game. This

865
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: is something Daniel Jones has never done before, and example

866
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: does he doesn't exactly? That's correct, right, and that the

867
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: one key mentor that we haven't discussed, and maybe the

868
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: most influential mentor is going to be Generous Jenkins, assuming

869
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: that he has what I heard from preseason how he

870
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: has been mentoring, whether that takes on more more meaning

871
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: during the during the regular season, Well, thank you Jeff

872
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Actually, it takes on more meaning over

873
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: the course of the off season in the summer, because

874
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: that's the foundation. And when you get these guys fresh

875
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: out of college and and they're trying to acclimate themselves

876
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: and during the course of training camp in these preseason games,

877
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: this is where they're having to understand these are the

878
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: ways we do things. These are the habits that we

879
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: want to form from the get go. If you don't

880
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: have a good foundation. And this is why it's so

881
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: important for the Giants to have a great locker room, John,

882
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: because you know, people use that word cultural all the

883
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: time and they throw it out as like it's a

884
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's just a great word to use. What

885
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: does that really mean. Here's here's what the word culture

886
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: means to me. And I'm tired of using the word.

887
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: I hate it. I've been avoiding it now for monks.

888
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: And that's where that Pat Shermer pointed out in this

889
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't like you that he doesn't want to use

890
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: that word either. Okay, here's what it's about. Okay, it's

891
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: about do you have good work habits, do you have

892
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: an eager attitude, do you have a willingness to learn.

893
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: All of those things wrapped up together is good culture.

894
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: So I don't like the word culture because it implies

895
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: that all of those things are in unison together, and

896
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 1: sometimes you could have one or two of those three

897
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: things without having the other. That's not good culture. And

898
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: this is a word that Dave Gentleman used before, and

899
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: I hate to overuse it, but I think you want

900
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: to have these young guys that come in see how

901
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: the adults in the room handle everything, and you want

902
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: to see and copy how the veterans go about their business,

903
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: because a lot of times these young guys will mimic,

904
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: whether it's consciously or not, behave prepare act go about

905
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: their business the way the older, more successful and by

906
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: the way very rich players at their position groups go

907
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: about their business. If you're Corey Valentine, you show up

908
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: and you're like, Wow, Genor's Jenkins one of the top

909
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: corners in the league. He got this big free agent contract. Boy,

910
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: he must know something, you know, he knows how this

911
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: goes right. So why wouldn't you try to copy what

912
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: Genorris Jenkins does? If you're Corey balent On, you'd be

913
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: stupid not to. So it's just a matter of these guys,

914
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: and I think the Giants have brought in despite Golden

915
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Tate suspension. He's a guy that operates that way. Antoine

916
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Bathet operates that way last year. Jonathan Stewards got that

917
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: operates that way. Obviously, Eli Mannings the guy that operates

918
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: that way. And you copy those players, whether it's subconscious

919
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: or conscious or not, and you just act in that manner,

920
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you have a much more

921
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: professional locker room. You don't want to use the word culture,

922
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: a much more professional locker room that cares about football

923
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: and goes about their business in a professional adult way.

924
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: You asked justin Tuck ROSSI human you are how much

925
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: of an impact Michael Strahan had on them when they

926
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: got here. That's all you need to know. That's a

927
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: great example of it. It really is. I mean o

928
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: c told me when he got out of Troy and

929
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: he came to the Giants, he used to be asleep

930
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms when he was at Troy because

931
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: he did it all on natural pure ability. Didn't even

932
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: sit watching the films when they had the meetings. So

933
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: he said, he got here and it was straight hand

934
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: who actually taught him how to watch game tape. He

935
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: didn't know because he had never done it. But there's

936
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: a mentor straight hand teaching Osie how to prepare and

937
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: how to be a prop. I had to not show

938
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: up at training camp left It's funny two one, one three.

939
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: Dinsie actually joked with us about that and one of

940
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: the interviews after he retired. I believe I think he did.

941
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up. Daniel and damp is

942
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: up next. Hey Daniel, how are you hi? Guys? We

943
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: are actually one week away from giants to real football.

944
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: How about that? I cannot wait? So what I wanted

945
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: to ask you about is, you know how all off

946
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: season we're talking about how some of the players that

947
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: are on the fifty three might not even be on

948
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: the team in training camp, and I noticed that Brandon Marshall,

949
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: a veteran linebacker who just got released by the Raiders, Like,

950
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: could we be picking people like Venma, because like, I

951
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: could see that as a real even though the team

952
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: is supposed to be young and grow together, I could

953
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: see a veteran like that really helping out, like Lorenzo

954
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: Carter and people like that. Yeah, I want to answer

955
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: that right away, because I've already gotten questions on Twitter

956
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: about it, and I've responded during this show. Brandon Marshall's

957
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: coming off a leg injury and for whatever reason, uh,

958
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders I guess didn't like what they saw and

959
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: apparently he's on the outs there. So any team that's

960
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: interested in Brandon Marshall, the first thing they're going to

961
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: do is look into the medical. Is it healthy? He's

962
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: a good player, okay, And and the medical is gonna

963
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: have to green light the player before the GM or

964
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: the coach or the scout says, Okay, let's bring this

965
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: kid in to take a look that that's gonna be

966
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: a medical question first and foremost, because you don't know

967
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: how significant, uh the injury was, if it's affected his rehab,

968
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: if it's affected his ability to do the kinds of

969
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: things that he's already put on tape as a player. Okay, Well, um, yeah,

970
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: I was kind of just using him as an example. So, like,

971
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: do you think there's anyone that because we didn't really

972
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: know in the beginning of the off season, but now

973
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: is it, like do we get more of an idea

974
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: who would be available, and like if we want anybody,

975
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: or we just want to stick with who we have. Well,

976
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna know at four o'clock tomorrow. I

977
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: so seriously, I don't mean to be funny. I wish

978
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I could give you a better answer, but I think, Daniel,

979
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: it's just impossible to to keep track of what all

980
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: these rosters look like around the league to really anticipate

981
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: who might get let go that might help the Giants.

982
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: We talked over us on our pregame show on the

983
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: radio yesterday, and I thought maybe they'd be two waiver claims.

984
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: I think there might be three at this point based

985
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: on how the roster's breaking out, So I think two

986
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: or three. Uh, you might be bringing in guys from

987
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: the outside to try to fill some of those spots

988
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, you know, maybe an edge rusher, offensive tackle

989
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: might be a spot, or running back. I think all

990
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: those positions would be in the mix, and you can

991
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: find somebody better sitting out there on cut that. See,

992
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: what you're asking involves a much higher pay scale than

993
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: what John and I have before time, and frankly question

994
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: to invest in the work as as as we have

995
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: stated on this show many of times, and Coach Shermour

996
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: did say it again during the pregame taping we had

997
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: on the radio yesterday. The personnel department is responsible for

998
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: taking a gauge and a temperature on everyone else's rosters

999
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: around the league, and they are playing a guessing game

1000
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: upstairs as to who they think may realistically be available

1001
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: on the cutdown list as of Saturday at four. They're

1002
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: taking what they believed to be educated guesses, but they're

1003
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: not even sure the guys who are gonna be out.

1004
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you they've been watching Daniel

1005
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: because they haven't been at a Giants practice. Because those

1006
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: pro personnel guys, you know what they're doing. They're sitting

1007
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: there watching tape of all the other teams preseason games

1008
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: and doing reports on players that they think might be

1009
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: available on Saturday at four o'clock. And if the players

1010
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: that they do reports on that they really like her there,

1011
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: those might be guys that they bring in. And by

1012
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: the way, coach Shermer also said the other day to

1013
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: the general media that he has spent time watching preseason

1014
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: games of other teams in his moments of spare time,

1015
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: kind of keeping an eye on guys who he thinks

1016
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: he might be interested in if they come free. Yeah,

1017
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: I just saw Brandon Marshall was a big name. I

1018
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: was just thinking about him that I will tell you though,

1019
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: that's always a mistake. Never look at the big name

1020
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: and automatically think he should be at the top of

1021
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: your want. The most important thing, Daniel, is to figure

1022
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: out why the player got let go from the situation

1023
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: he was in. If it turns out to be a

1024
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: salary deal, then yeah, maybe he's someone that you can

1025
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: go after. But if it's a health deal, then that's

1026
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: something we just you know, we don't know the medical reports,

1027
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's kind of really hard to understand that.

1028
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate the call about thanks man, good stuff, Daniel. Let's

1029
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 1: go to Don in Texas. He's up next. They done? Hello, Hello, Don,

1030
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: Don going once? Don going twice. I think with John

1031
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn might be a back to Nicole. You can

1032
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: lead John up. Let's go to John first. John, Are

1033
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: you with us? Yes? With you? Hi? Hey? Hey, do

1034
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: do me a favorite? Don in Texas? If you're out there,

1035
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: give us a call back and we will put you

1036
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: right on. Okay, John, go ahead. Yeah, I just have

1037
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: like a statement question. I mean I've never seen a

1038
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in since ninth and when I started watching football

1039
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: in come on and have a preseason like he's had.

1040
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna ask a good question. Have you

1041
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: guys haven't seen it? And when you get to that point,

1042
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: you look at Loretta and how much he's improved, the

1043
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: coaching there must be great. And I have one another

1044
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: question I have to have to do to us that

1045
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: one out to all Right, here's the thing. I since

1046
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven years covering the Giants, so I will

1047
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: say this to you. I have never seen a rookie

1048
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: quarterback come to Giants camp and light up the preseason

1049
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: as Daniel Jones has done. And I've only been here

1050
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: since oh seven, But he looks completely different than any

1051
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: other rookie quarterback I've seen. And it's not close. Now.

1052
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: Having said that, okay, there are thirty one other teams

1053
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: in the league, and I am sure that at some

1054
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: point over the last thirty years forty years, and of

1055
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: course we're talking about expansion, that there have been other

1056
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks who have come in and had great preseasons.

1057
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: But because I cover this team and I'm in practice

1058
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: for this team every day. This is what I see

1059
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: up close and personal, and I don't spend time watching

1060
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: every snap of every other rookie quarterback who was coming

1061
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Speaker 1: to training camp. So it's a bit of an unfair question.

1062
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: I can qualify it by just saying, based on this franchise, yeah, this,

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00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: this is really off the charts. Absolutely well. It was

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00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: your second question, John, why did they have at the

1065
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: end of that game? And understand, I mean with the

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00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: people way people were going down, I'm saying, if he

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00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: gets hurt, who's our backup? I know you say Perkins.

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00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think Perkins is going to make the team. John,

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00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: I think I appreciate it. Thank you, thank you for calling,

1070
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: and you you have a great day. I think that maybe

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00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: Goldman wasn't as secure as the second running back, and

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00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: some people might think, and we have speculated going into

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00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: the preseason, and in fact, even after a week or

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00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: two when he got hurt and he missed the Bears game,

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00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: we were even kind of thinking, Okay, he's the two

1076
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: and the fight is going to be for behind him. Really,

1077
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: what it comes down to is that after Barkley, it

1078
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: was a mess. I wouldn't say a mess. I think

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: the problem was it was uncertain, how about it? But

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Speaker 1: you saw a lot of gray area, Yes, another good

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00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: way to put it. Really, that's what it comes down to.

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00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: According to the Giants people, there was a lot of

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00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: gray area behind Barkley, and nobody really stuck their hands

1084
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: up out of the clouds and said, hey, I'm definitively

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00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: the number two guy. So I think Goldman was getting snaps,

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00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: as was Perkins, as was Hillaman at the very end

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Speaker 1: of the game, and Rod Smith would have if he

1088
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: was healthier, because this was those three guys last shot

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00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: to put something on tape that indicated they deserve to

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: be here. In my opinion, Paul Perkins certainly did that.

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Speaker 1: Don in Texas is up next. Don welcome back. Hey,

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00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: how you doing? John? How are you doing? Guys? I

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00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: got a quick comment and then two questions. I know

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00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, and I'll take it

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: off the year. I'll be quick, thank you. So I

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00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: just want to circle back to what you said, John,

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00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think Daniel Jones is

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00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: going to need a whole season. I think around eight

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: to ten games should be sufficient. And in response to

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Speaker 1: what p Dot said, the only way Eli Manning is

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00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 1: the quarterback next year? Is if they win the Super

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00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: Bowl under Eli Manning this year? Well, you're wrong, and

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00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: that's okay, but you're allowed. You're allowed to be wrong. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: don don don real quick, real real quick, Don don

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00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: real fast. I'm gonna ask Paul seriously, what will it

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00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: take for you lot to be the starter next year?

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00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: In your mind? I think if they have to win

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00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year? No, that's wrong. We'll just

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00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: asking Paul what what his if they if they get

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs, or if they're for example, ten and

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Speaker 1: six and don't make it, or even maybe nine and

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Speaker 1: seven and don't make it. But Eli has a really

1113
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: good year, he'll be back. He'll be back. And I

1114
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with that. Like I said,

1115
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: you're allowed to be wrong. It's fine, go ahead, all right.

1116
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: So the things I want to talk about is why

1117
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: I called for the defense certainty looking after his knee,

1118
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: is he looking better? And I think the key to

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00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: the defense of pass rush is b J. Hill. And

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Speaker 1: my last question, and I'll take it off the air. Guys,

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00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: when do the final jersey numbers get released? It's time

1122
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: to buy me a new jersey. Well, the final jersey

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00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: numbers should be released at some point next week. Once

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00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: they do cuts and final editions and everyone kind of

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00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: jiggers their numbers around, you're gonna have a better idea

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Speaker 1: of who everyone's gonna be. So I would say, if

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00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: you wait until Thursday of next week, you should have

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Speaker 1: a pretty good feel for what everyone's number is going

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00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: to be. You're gonna be safe wait until Friday. But Thursday,

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00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: I think you'll be safe to go get your jersey. Well,

1131
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: my guess is you're probably gonna want to wear your jersey,

1132
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: maybe to the home opener, which isn't until two weeks.

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00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: So why did you wait till after the Dallas game

1134
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: to buy it? All? But take some time if you're

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: ordering it online for a ticket delivered, and come in

1136
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: I suppose, so, I guess. Well, here's the reason. Here's

1137
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: the reason I would be cautious, because if they do

1138
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: pick up a veteran, that veteran may come in and say, look,

1139
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: this is the number I've worned for X number of

1140
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: years in the NFL, and he may wind up making

1141
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: a late trade with a younger player. Yeah, but yours.

1142
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna go buy a Shaan Chandler jersey.

1143
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that, no, But my point is that

1144
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: the players he's going to buy a jersey of, I

1145
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: doubt would be giving their numbers away. That gets brought

1146
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: in a week two. He did not suggest who the

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00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: candidates were of the jerseys he was thinking about. I'm

1148
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: using logic here, Paul. Okay, is that okay? Sure, it's okay.

1149
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: What was the most obscure Giants player paraphernella you ever

1150
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: had as a kid grown up? I didn't when I

1151
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: was a kid, alright, confession. I had a number ten

1152
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: jersey when I was a kid. It was a friend

1153
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: talking and it was it was a kid's jersey. One

1154
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: of those. I had a toy locker. It was a cardboard,

1155
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: big rectangular cardboard box. It was called a toy box locker,

1156
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: and it had a big giant's helmet on it, and

1157
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: inside was a kid's version of a giant's helmet. Wasn't

1158
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: a real helmet. Was a kids version of a giant's helmet.

1159
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: And he came with a kid's version of a friend

1160
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Tarkington jersey. That's what I had. Final call Number ten

1161
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: is Nick in the middle ends he'll wrap us up. Hey, Nick,

1162
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: are you doing guys? Be quick here now? A couple

1163
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 1: of callers ago, I like what that guy has said.

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00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say that about the coaching

1165
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: what I've seen here in with the GM do with

1166
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: with Gutman, I believe in and you know, and I

1167
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: like sharp. You know, if you look at all the players,

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00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the death even this, this looks like a team,

1169
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They look good, you know

1170
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. I know it's pretty season, but I'm saying,

1171
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: and I'm watching they're being the number two guys to

1172
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: get to their number two there being other team's number three,

1173
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 1: you know, in every area, the quarterbacks. Nick, I'm gonna Nick,

1174
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: I gotta stop you one second, because the biggest question

1175
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: we had about this team was defense going into the preseason,

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00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: and we still don't know right now where that proven

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00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: pass rush is going to come from. To me, that

1178
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 1: question has not been answered at all during the course

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Speaker 1: of the preseason, and it is still the number one

1180
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: achilles heel that could wind up impacting this team. So

1181
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: I just need to be fair with you here. I

1182
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: appreciate what you're saying, but we still don't know that answer.

1183
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: To the offense like I should have. Like you know,

1184
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: I told you exactly. You know, like offense looks I'm offense.

1185
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: They look good. And for all the naysayers with Jones,

1186
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see what they say now.

1187
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: They're all gonna want to put him in right away,

1188
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: and they want to they want to see him run,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love what he said before,

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Speaker 1: especially preseason. You don't want to see him run, but

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: one day you will see it. And he does have wheels.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have watched him in

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Speaker 1: high school at all, but as soon as I could,

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: I started getting everything I could watch on him in

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Speaker 1: high school. And he's always looked like that kid that Wow,

1196
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be an NFL one day. He's going to

1197
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: be an NFL quarterback. One day, he's gonna be a start.

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Speaker 1: You know, He's always looked good running off the middle,

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Speaker 1: you know, stiff farming people. I mean, I know it's

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01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: high school, but it's just been for a long time.

1201
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: This kid, he's checked off every box so far from me.

1202
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: The next thing you got to see is a game

1203
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: and see see what he does in the game, you

1204
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? When they came playing against him

1205
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: when he gotta you know, Nick, No, he's starting, but

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: he looks good, Nick, Nick I, I I love the enthusiasm,

1207
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: but I'd rather you be excited about the way he

1208
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: leads guys on his passes. And he's and no, no,

1209
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: and and and and that's fine, and you know how

1210
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I feel about that too. But if you want to

1211
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: talk about the great qualities that Jones has shown, you don't,

1212
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: please do not talk about his legs. Please don't talk

1213
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: about his legs. Well when he did in high school.

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Speaker 1: Get the situations, Paul, it's gonna shut these people up

1215
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: that hate you. I can't do that because the kid dope. No,

1216
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen, Nick, Nick, here's the worst

1217
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: part about it, because there's such a negative there's such

1218
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: a negative agenda against ELI. If Daniel Jones gets into

1219
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: a game this year and runs for a twenty yard

1220
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: first down, you know what's gonna happen. All of the

1221
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: anti ELI people are going to again pound the drums

1222
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: and say, look, look the kid can run Elies a statue.

1223
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: Get the old man out of there. That's exactly what's

1224
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: going to happen. So no, no, good's gonna come of

1225
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: Jones scrambling downfield. Looks that maybe helping the team win

1226
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: a couple of games that would be good. Yeah, but

1227
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: it won't be necessary because he lies not going to

1228
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Speaker 1: give up the job. Thank you, Paul, You're welcome. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned the Giants dot Com as a cover of the

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Speaker 1: Giants final roster cut that the fifty three. As we

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Speaker 1: move along here and of course next week is the

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Speaker 1: Giants in the Dallas Cowboys. Want to remind you starting

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Speaker 1: next week, Big Looking Off Live moves to one thirty

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Speaker 1: every day Monday through Friday to accommodate the coaches, practice

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: and media availability schedule. You want to have it the

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Speaker 1: same day, same time every day so we don't confuse

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Speaker 1: the fans out there. So it'll be one thirty every

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Speaker 1: day starting on Monday. We will have a show on

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01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: Labor Day. Make sure you tune in for Paul to Tino.

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01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: I am John Schmilk. Is all presented by Corps Light.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Big Book Kick Golf Live. Enjoy your holiday weekend, everybody,

1243
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: have fun. It's your last weekend without NFL football until February.

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Speaker 1: Audios m