1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Avery body, Well happy happy Memorial Day weekend where the 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: fellas chasing fits Kevin figures. 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: I'm Anthony Garganels. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: You come belive from the tai Iraq dot com studios 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: tyrack dot com. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: We'll help you get there. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: An unmatt selection fans, free shipping, free road as a 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: protection over ten thousand recommended installers. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: Tyrack dot com. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be, and yet the gateway 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: to summer. Memorial Day Weekend. We honor those who served, 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: passed and present, and we thanked them for their service 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: as the summer of barbecues, cookouts, the beach week kick 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: it Off Summer twenty twenty four and FITZI. For me, 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: summer is the gateway to football because to get get 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: to football, we just have to go through summer. 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: What do you say, buddy. 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Boy, Okay, that's amazing. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: That is amazing that you took summer and got it 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: to like, you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon. Like, 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 4: that's six degrees of football for the cousin like that. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: I love this all every ounce of the fact that 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 4: most people are thinking hot dogs, hamburgers are having a 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: great debate of what kind of bun you put your 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: hot dog on that's gonna make everybody happy figuring out 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: if you're gonna have like a swimming thing, Like what 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 4: are you doing? Like, what are you doing this weekend? 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: You're like a one step closer to football. But I 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: appreciate that that dedication to you because I'll be honest. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: You know, fall is better than summer, as we agree 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: on this show. So you know, hey, we got to 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: get through summer to get the fall. 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: That's fine, But I do think you know, this weekend 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: there's people are swimming, you know, they'll be debating football, 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: but not a lot of people thinking about it yet. 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: It's part of your commitment. It's commitment through this whole 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: process to what you love. And I appreciate that. 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: Tap for the weekend, Buddy ah. 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Man, nothing like I mean, honestly. 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: The funny thing is I always thought of Memorial Day 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: weekend for the longest time of my life as this 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: landmark moment. But then you know that one of the 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: things that changes in life, and you spend so much 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: of it living on a tour bus, is that there's 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: certain weekends that most people just have fun and you 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: usually work and that was always the case, like weekend. 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: There's always a concert, you know, so like so for. 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: Me, I think over the years, it's just sort of 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: lost that luster of relaxation. So I'm just chilling, man, 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: extra days off, like all right, we'll just hang out, 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: chill and uh you know again, as they said last week, 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: I'm eating so regimen it can't even have that hot dog. 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: So you know what, Oh play weekend, but can't even 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: power it up. 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: There's still no caffeine in my blood, still nothing but water. 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: Still only eating exactly what I'm supposed to when I'm 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: supposed to. So like Memorial Day weekend, I'm just gonna 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: watch everybody else get tanked and then sit back and 61 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: enjoy it. 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: It's it's because you do not sound like a man 63 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: without caffeine, Figgie, good morning, brother. Does he sound like 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: a man who has no caffeine in him? 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: Never? 66 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: Never does? And that's the amazing. That's what makes it 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 6: so much more impressive. You know, I don't know how 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 6: you do it, to be honest with you, especially at 69 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 6: this hour. 70 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, you know I got I got the 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: joy Joy, Georgia down in my heart of hanging out 72 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: with my voice, like, we're hanging out. 73 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: This is easiest four hours of my week is what 74 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: we're doing right now. 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Let's have some fun, no, we I do look forward 76 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 2: to I gotta tell you, you know, like love hang 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: with you guys, and it's funny because you know, nobody 78 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: likes to get up right. So I'm watching I'm watching 79 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: Luca last night, which was unbelievable. Man, they get clear, 80 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: gets caught on a switch, go bears on him. He's 81 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: got no prayer, right, he's just got him on skates 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: and then it st back three ice to win it, 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: and I'm going, Wow, that was awesome. Can't wait to 84 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: talk about it in like three hours when we get 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: up and watch it. So that was that was it. 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: We love it, We love it. How about Luca last night? 87 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: How about the MAVs? Man, They're a great story. Kyrie played, 88 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: you know, a great fourth quarter after a great game. 89 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: One struggled a bitter early and then was terrific down 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: the stretch. 91 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, little part of this is I feel 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 4: like sometimes we get so used to what we've seen 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: that we forget how great it can be and so 94 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: like Luca all of a sudden, I mean, over the 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: course of the last month, there's been so much discourse about, well, 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: as Luca really that good, and you hear all these 97 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: people talk about maybe he's overrated, can't do this, can't 98 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: do that, and then he comes out and has a 99 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: night yet again like he had last night. 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: You just reminded that, you know, you're. 101 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: Talking about somebody that is one of the best in 102 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: the league, that we were just sleeping on it because 103 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: we're always trying to make new stars. Like not for nothing, 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards was not good, not good last night? 105 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Like great defense, yeah, sure. 106 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: But but like, would we be as kind to Jason Tatum 107 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: if he's had if he had as many bad shooting 108 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: games in a Rose Anthony Edwards has had, like it 109 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: just it feels like a couple of weeks ago, a 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: week ago, it was always the next Jordan and Luca 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: is overrated and now you get yet again they're going 112 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: to and oh at this at this point in this series, 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: in part because Luca has. 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Played his tail off. On the other side of it, 115 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Anthony's been been okay, he's been. 116 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 7: Okay, yes, And you know, I think I think Minnesota 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 7: is a kind of a new Darling, So you know, 118 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 7: it is like it And I think people go plus 119 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 7: the NBA the NBA. 120 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: On the NBA, we have these conversations about players. It's 121 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: it's bizarre how we have these conversations. But I think 122 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: Dallas's defense man has been ridiculous. 123 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: It's been so good. And you couple that with. 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: The way Luca and Kyrie like that backwards playing. They 125 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: have the two bigs with Gafford and Lively, who is 126 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: an amazing young player. I mean, you know, he was 127 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: just sensational last night. And then you know, I mean 128 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Towns was worse than Anthony Edwards right, Like 129 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: he couldn't even get on the floor in the fourth quarter. 130 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. 131 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you start thinking about where some of 132 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: this went wrong, and you're right part of it. With 133 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: the NBA, I think, is we fall in love with 134 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: like the shiny new toy all the time. Like I 135 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: remember when I was when I was a little kid, 136 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: there was one year that I was convinced, all right 137 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: that I wanted G I Joe. 138 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I was so convinced I wanted G I Joe toys. 139 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: It was for my birthday. Yeah, it was my birthday. 140 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: My mom was like, you don't want these, Like, we'll 141 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: get you Gi Joe for your birthday, but you're not 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: gonna like it by Christmas. 143 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, no, no, I want it so much. 144 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: And I got it and I was like, yes, this 145 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: is the best birthday ever. My mom was right, by Christmas, 146 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: I'd put all of it away. It really wasn't my thing, 147 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: you know, And she called it. 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: She was right. 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: That's what we do, like g I Joe every single 150 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: time with every new thing in the NBA, if one 151 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: player has a good month, they can't just be Wow, 152 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: that guy has a good month. It has to be 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: this guy is the next whoever. And if one guy 154 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 4: has a good playoff run, it has to be oh, 155 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: he's the next Jordan or who's taking the throne? Or 156 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: why is this team a disaster? Like there's no nuance 157 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: in the coverage of any of this. And I just 158 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: kept watching last night thinking how many times in the 159 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: last few weeks have we given up on some of 160 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: these guys on Dallas while anointing some of these guys 161 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: in Minnesota. And you're right, Karl Anthony Towns was a disaster, 162 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: and you've called that like, you've made it clear that 163 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: the cat is just not your favorite flavor of ice cream. 164 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: As a player, you can look at last night and 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: get a clear reminder. 166 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Of why well, I mean, you see that, and then 167 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: you know to your point about the newest flavor. 168 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: It's so on point when you think of. 169 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: Kyrie right like, because truthfully, you again, how great a 170 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: player Kyrie Irving is incredibly skilled. I mean, you know, 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: the first game one, as they're blitzing, they're trying to 172 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: figure out what to do, they were attacking Luca, and 173 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: so Kyrie bears the scoring load. 174 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: Last night. 175 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: He didn't really shoot the ball well first couple, you know, 176 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: the first three quarters, two and a half quarters, and 177 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: you know, Lucas carried a Lucas carried it. And then 178 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: that end of the third and bulk of the fourth 179 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: he was great. And he's playing great defense, like he's 180 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: flowing to the ball. 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: He's playing great. Like I never thought it would work. 182 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: I always thought like, well, having the two of them 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: is interesting and fun, but I don't think. 184 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: You can win anything. 185 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: And damn man, those two, those two are terrific together. 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: And then the perfect ropers that trade to get PJ. 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: Washington and Gafford was just they were like they were 188 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: that was such a big deal. And you think about 189 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: the lesson of what that is in the NBA, And 190 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: it's not about the stars, right, It's not about getting 191 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: you know, the the the three stars and they have it. 192 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: You don't need that. If you shurect you got to 193 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: skip the right mix. It's really interesting to watch. 194 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, is there is there any part of your mind 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: too that sees this success and like I'm not trying 196 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: to pile on to the guy, but sees this success 197 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: for the MAVs and then just thinks, Man, the minute 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: Mark Cuban leaves, they get successful, and like it just 199 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: feels like the minute Mark Cuban disassociates with the MAVs, 200 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: all of a sudden everything starts getting to where he 201 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 4: always wanted it to be. I think it's interesting, like 202 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: everything everything sort of clicking together, and it just makes 203 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: you wonder, like what was the thing that suddenly caused 204 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: this all to come together at once? 205 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: And especially a wild West, Like how much time. 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 4: We spent on the show talking about how hard the 207 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: Western Conference was this year, how weird it looked, and 208 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: so for Dallas to be playing this well coming out 209 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: of it. 210 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, everybody. 211 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: For the last couple of months is just presumed that 212 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 4: the Celtics are rolling. But you know, and without the 213 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: Nuggets and the Celtics, you can roll to a title. 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: I watched last night and thought, man, why not, like 215 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: at this point, why not Dallas to win it all? Like, 216 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 4: there's nothing that they don't have that they would need 217 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: to be able to get to that point. 218 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: I think they're beating Boston. I do. I think they 219 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: could beat Boston. 220 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: I feel there's something about the Celtics that I don't trust. 221 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: There's something abat now could be my extreme hatred of 222 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: the Celtics foot disclosure, but there's something about them that 223 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: I don't trust. And it is interesting. You put up 224 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, and that, to me is I still I forget? 225 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Like wow, man, he tried, he sold them like wow. 226 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: I never understood why. I didn't really follow the story much. 227 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: And I never really understood why, because listen, when you're 228 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: that wealthy, like you know, and he appeared to get 229 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: that much joy out of it, do you why do 230 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: you move on from it? 231 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: I still didn't even understand. 232 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 6: Well, he's still involved. He's still in control of the 233 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 6: basketball operations. I think he's in control of like twenty 234 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 6: eight percent ownership, so he's still heavily involved. 235 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 5: He's just not the majority owner anymore. 236 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, why would he Why did you have the. 237 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: Voice in the room, Like another voice in the room 238 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: is all like like that stood up to me. 239 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, figure, why did he do that? 240 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't know, to be honest with you, that's 241 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: a good question. I have no idea. 242 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: It's one of those stories where I didn't really follow, 243 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: you know, some stories you don't, you know, follow it closely, right, 244 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: And I didn't know he saw You're right now, I 245 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: obviously are about the majority piece of it. Just I 246 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: just found it interesting because they showed him last night 247 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like, wow, Mark, Yeah, and he was so 248 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: it was always his baby, right, and now it's you know, 249 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: it's not, but the basketball piece of it. Fig I'm 250 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by the Kyrie Luca thing and how it 251 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: worked and it all became you know that that having 252 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: those bigs has been such an incredible It was like 253 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: that trade gave them death and it really gave them defense. 254 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: And it shows you how you win in this league. 255 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well it changed, Yeah, it changed everything for them 256 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 6: because it was a pretty understated move at the deadline 257 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: when it happened. And we know that both Kyrie and 258 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 6: Luka Donchik are not necessarily going to be stopping anybody 259 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 6: on the perimeter. 260 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: But even both of those guys have shown a better effort. 261 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 6: It's still not good, but they've shown better effort from 262 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: a defensive standpoint and has permeated throughout the entire roster. Yeah, 263 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 6: PG Washington and Gaffer have been spectacular for them, And yeah, 264 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 6: the way that you win, there's no there's more. 265 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 5: Than one way to do it. 266 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: But I mean, you have two dynamic ball handlers who 267 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 6: can also kill you off the ball and basically from 268 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 6: an offensive standpoint, you just need one of those guys 269 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 6: to hit on a given night. PGA Washington has been 270 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 6: huge for them too, And if they keep playing defense 271 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 6: to the whether they're playing, you have one or two 272 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 6: of three guys who can go off and pretty much 273 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 6: carry you from an offensive standpoint, whether it's Kyrie and 274 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 6: or Luca creating and scoring and PGA Washington just being 275 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: a finisher and spoting up and shooting. 276 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: I mean, they have the formula, and I'm with you. 277 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 6: If they end up facing Boston in the finals, I 278 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 6: can easily see them getting a win. 279 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: We think that there's any way, though, that Minnesota comes 280 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: back in this series. I mean, I know they're down 281 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: to nothing, but that game last night, he could have 282 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: gone their way easily. It could have been one one, 283 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: could have been one up. Then we're not panicking, like 284 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: is it too soon to just call them out of 285 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: this one? 286 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, considering how last series went with Denver and how 287 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 6: good Minnesota looked in the first two games and then 288 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 6: how good Denver looked in the next three. Yeah, I 289 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 6: don't think that it's over. I think do I think 290 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 6: it's likely that they come back and win. No, But 291 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 6: I'm hard pressed to say that the series is over. 292 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 6: I won't go that way. 293 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: Listen. I think it's over. 294 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: And I feel you on you know, because I felt 295 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: the same thing that I thought Minnesota was going to 296 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: win that series easily over Denver, and they were going 297 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: to get stressed and put the seven games and go 298 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: have to win again on Denver's home court, which I 299 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: never thought they do money game seven. Yeah, I mean, 300 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: I agree with you. The thing the match up here 301 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: though is more pronounced. I just don't like the matchup 302 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: for Minnesota, and I again, I don't know how they 303 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: stop Dallas. Like Dallas looks like it can score when 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: it wants, like even they fall behind and then they 305 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: come back, and it's because what you said, both Kyrie 306 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: and Luca break you down, and when they start to 307 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: blitz them, that's where you get all those dunks at 308 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: the rim, Like they're able to break down defenders and 309 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: just get those easy baskets. And if you go back 310 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: at and look at it, even in game one, they 311 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: didn't rain threes in game one, right, Like you know, PJ. 312 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: Washington's been pretty quiet, yes this series. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 313 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: I just don't like the match up for Minnesota. 314 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: You're right, everything about that. 315 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: I just I'm just trying to I'm just trying to 316 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: make sure there's nothing that we're not learning. I said 317 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: that really confusingly. I'm trying to make sure that we 318 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: are learning from what we saw in the last round, 319 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: because in the last round it was super easy for everybody, 320 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: not just in their series against Tever, but look on 321 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: the East. I mean, Indiana falls down to nothing, they're done. 322 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: Indiana falls down three to two, they're done. And look 323 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: at Indiana right, like they got to where they are 324 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: right now. So I'm just trying to make sure that 325 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: we're not over reactionary in the death of Minnesota too early, 326 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: that's all. 327 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And part of it could also be. 328 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: Like you look at Anthony Edwards and you go, you know, 329 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: it's just part of his maturation process, right, I mean 330 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: he's not ready, like I saw and listen, it was 331 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: the right pass like nas Reed has been a it 332 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: was incredible last night, right, Like that's why kat was 333 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: on the bench. I mean he was he was unconscious 334 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: from three, and so Anthony Edwards gives him the last shot, 335 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: and he was right to give him last shot in 336 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: the sense that he was open. So it was the 337 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: right basketball pass. But two years down the line or 338 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: next year, he takes that shot like he creates his 339 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: own Like that's that's you know that he then becomes Kobe, right, 340 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: and he has to finish. 341 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's a fair point that the maturation process 342 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: should be considered. 343 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Just like I said earlier, we blow people up too much. 344 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: You can't give up on somebody too early, like it 345 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: is early in where he is in this process, and 346 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: there is sort of a growth that will still happen 347 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 4: in front of him. I think we forget that sometimes, 348 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: just because last week it was all about, oh, he's 349 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: the new Jordan, which is was a stupid, big conversation 350 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: to be having right there. I think for most people, 351 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 4: like we avoided that on the show with nobody here 352 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: called him the new Jordan. But when you've been annoyed 353 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: that way, it just makes it tougher to realize that 354 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: there's still a maturation process happening in front of our eyes. 355 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: I love the way Doncience goes out of though, because 356 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: he was barking at the Minnesota bench the whole game. 357 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he was giving one of those things. I 358 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: don't know who it was, one of the I guess 359 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: it was Van Humdy who said it that he's look, 360 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: he's telling him where he's going to make the next shot, 361 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: which was which was bird like, right like, And he 362 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: was barking, man, barking Minnesota spans the whole game. And 363 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: to execute like that and stick the dagger that felt 364 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: like bird to me. 365 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's part of the the swaggy part of this 366 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 4: is part of why everybody's falling in love with with 367 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: this series and falling in love with I think where 368 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: we are right, and I agree with you. 369 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that part of it. 370 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's been fun to shame. 371 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: The real shame is hal Burt gets hurt because you know, 372 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: if he had a stress that obviously Game one taking 373 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: the overtime and they cut it right, they cut the 374 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: lead and and then when Haliburton's out they have no chance. 375 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 6: Well with him in there, I mean, he was a 376 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 6: key culprit in them giving away Game one. So I 377 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: mean that that was a tough loss there. I mean 378 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: it would if this series could easily be tied one 379 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: to one and that game doesn't even go into overtime 380 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 6: if he doesn't throw that pass to Siakam that leads 381 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 6: him out of bounds. 382 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 5: So I mean, I. 383 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 6: Love Halliburton, but in the in the in the most 384 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 6: critical moment, he made a critical mistake that you can't make. 385 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: No, But I mean, you know, the only reason why 386 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: they're in the game is because he had Oh. 387 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 6: I don't disagree, but you know, unfortunately the most the 388 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 6: thing that gets magnified the most is the last play. 389 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: But I and I feel my only point is, you know, 390 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: to shame. He gets hurt because we go when he 391 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: goes down of the game, like they have. 392 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: No chance, zero chance, and yeah they're going back home. 393 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 6: Even if you're down oh two and going back home 394 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 6: to Indiana, you think you have a chance to you know, 395 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 6: get the get back in the series. And if he's 396 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 6: not gonna play what, he's questionable. So we'll see. Yeah, 397 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 6: it's even if he's he did it's the same hamstring. Yeah, 398 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 6: because before he entered the hamstring in January, he was amazing. 399 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: He was getting some some some MVP talk. 400 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a shame. 401 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, fellas were just getting start, lots to do, and guys, 402 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: I want to I want. 403 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: To discuss the lawsuit. 404 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: The NCAA sells the lawsuit and so the Power five 405 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: conferences will pay players. 406 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: So this adds to the whole l I mean, this 407 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: is wild. 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Wait, 426 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 10: try this one, Dear Paulie and Tony, you guys are 427 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 10: the absolute best. There you go, coming up with the 428 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 10: stupidest take. 429 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: Forget it. 430 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 9: Just listen to the Folly and Tony Fusco Show on 431 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 9: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 432 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 433 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: Fellas from the tire Rack dot Com studio sation fits 434 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: Kevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargana. All right, boy, So wild 435 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: stuff happened in college football? Are college sports as d 436 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: NCAA reaction to the lawsuit to settle that lawsuit, and 437 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: now it's that the power of five conferences will pay, 438 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: so the school now will pay its athletes. Fitzing, you 439 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 2: do a ton with college sports, though your world got rocked. 440 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think a little bit about what happened. 441 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 4: And look, I'm not somebody that since here and says 442 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: any of this change is bad for college football. 443 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: This is the inevitable change happening for college football. 444 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: The other thing I would say is that everything that's 445 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: happening now that college football fans are lamenting and saying, 446 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: oh my god, well just remember that the sport could 447 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 4: have gotten ahead of it a long time ago, it 448 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 4: chose not to, and now that it didn't get ahead 449 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: of it, courts got involved. And once courts got involved, 450 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: this was going to become very complicated. So now all 451 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: of a sudden, with this settlement, there's going to be 452 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: revenue shit for college football teams to players, which creates 453 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: a real question about whether or not at some point 454 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: they'll be unionization of college football players. 455 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: All of this is just sort of up in the air. 456 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: But I think the one thing that has been talked 457 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: about the least that I think is really interesting is 458 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: it could lead to expectation of roster caps, Like, so 459 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: right now there are scholarship caps for anybody that doesn't know, 460 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: you can only have I think it's eighty five scholarships 461 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: and then forty. 462 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Five walk ons. 463 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: Right Well, roster caps might be coming because the revenue 464 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: sharing is not tied into those scholarship caps, which means 465 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: all these teams that are carrying all these walk ons 466 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: and you see the extra the fun every year it's 467 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: like this kicker just won a scholarship. 468 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: Those days look like they're dead. 469 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: So how are teams going to start to recruit knowing 470 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: that they don't even know how many teams and players 471 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: they can have on. 472 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Their roster in a couple of years. 473 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of details to be worked out, 474 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: and as usual, college football has not necessarily done the 475 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 4: best job of working any of those details out in advance. 476 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you need a roster side college football. You 477 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: can't have a streamline roster like the NFL. I don't 478 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: know how you do that. I don't know how you 479 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: operate like that. 480 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think honestly part of that comes 481 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: down to you'd be operating with much bigger like fifty 482 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 4: three in the NFL. We all know it's not going 483 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 4: to get to that number. But if you're doing a 484 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: rev split and everybody's trying to figure out how much 485 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 4: to pay everybody and how to work Title nine into 486 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: all of this, Also, like, I just wonder if it's 487 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: inevitable that it's like, hey, there are eighty five kids 488 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: on a college football. 489 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Roster and that's it. 490 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: And you know, if you don't make the roster, I'm 491 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: playing college football this fall. 492 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 3: Wow? Figure how you see it? 493 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't explain it as eloquently as Fitz did, 494 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 6: but I feel like it's just like a this is 495 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 6: moving out of snails pace towards something that we've talked 496 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 6: about on this show for the last couple of years, 497 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 6: and that's really the professionalization of the sports and a 498 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 6: general rev share where when these college football playoff TV 499 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 6: deals get signed and these conference deals get signed, you're 500 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 6: going to see a lot of that money, even more 501 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 6: so than the twenty million dollars that's being laid out 502 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 6: in this agreement, this initial agreement get paid towards the players, 503 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 6: specifically the players and the revenue generating sports. And I 504 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 6: know there's a talk of unionization and all of that 505 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 6: I believe they think that's going to get slowed down 506 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 6: by this decision, and maybe it will, but I ultimately 507 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 6: ultimately believe that's exactly where we're headed, that the amateurization 508 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 6: of college football at the very least is on its 509 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 6: way out. 510 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: It really is. 511 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: So there's so many questions, Like, you know, obviously, when 512 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: you have this dramatic change, and people, you know, freak 513 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: out like, oh my god, you know what happened to 514 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 2: the scholarship, like that whole antiquated fought like and I 515 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: get it in like nineteen seventy two, right when you know, 516 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: there are big TV deals in college football, and I 517 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: understand that the scholarship was commensurate to payment, but would 518 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: explodes into the late seventies, certainly the eighties and of 519 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: course the nineties into today. 520 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: You know, these kids got to get compensated. 521 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: When the sports explodes the way it does, and college football, 522 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: the conferences in the universities, you know, are generating scores 523 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: and scores and revenue. 524 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: The players going to get their share well. 525 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: And the hardest part about this again is that because 526 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 4: they didn't get ahead of it, and now it's been 527 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 4: done in the courts, I think what people need to 528 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: remember is that in the NFL, in any pro sport, 529 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: we talk about it all the time. Well, it's collectively bargained. 530 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: I die on that hill all the time too. If 531 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: you don't like it, go collectively bargain it. Well, because 532 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: they didn't come to this conclusion by themselves, they're basically 533 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: having to make settlements in court, and there's another case 534 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: coming up soon through all this process. Now, if you're 535 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 4: an athlete, you don't have to settle for any of this. 536 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: You can just keep suing your way through it and 537 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: until there is some sort of a CBA, until there 538 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: is some sort of a logical way that they come 539 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: to an agreement, nobody's beholding to anything. 540 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: So right now it's the wild West. 541 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: It truly is like one school can turn around in 542 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: this moment and say all right, well we want to 543 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: pay this much, and the next school can say we don't. 544 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: And one player can say I want this much, and 545 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: the next school can say, you know, the next player. 546 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Can say I don't. 547 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 4: So it really becomes confusing for coaches for longevity. Like 548 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: right now, more than ever, I think college football is 549 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: living in a year to year world where this year 550 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 4: it's gonna look like this, and next year we're gonna 551 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: figure out what it looks like. We're gonna have to 552 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: be able to veer quickly there. I mean, this is 553 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: this is an ever evolving it'll settle down at some 554 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: point they'll come up with exactly what it looks like. 555 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I think the courts will essentially do that for them. 556 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: But as that happens, you know, right now, think about 557 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: the nc double A. They're trying to deal with players 558 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: that want to get paid, coaches that don't know the landscape, 559 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: lawsuits all over the place, and Congress looking at them saying, 560 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: what the hell are you doing? Like, I don't even 561 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: the NCAA got themselves into this situation, but I don't 562 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: know how you dig yourself out. 563 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 564 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you a world that I'm pretty familiar with. 565 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: I think it trickles down too, dude, Like I think 566 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna see the professionalization of the youth sports. 567 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean it's wild in that I look and see what. 568 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: Like you know, the next frontier is high school, right, 569 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: and so there's all of a sudden. 570 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 5: In a lot of states in I L exists in 571 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 5: high school. 572 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: So I mean, right, and like you could see it, 573 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: like I see. 574 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: You know, we have a couple of powerhouse you know, 575 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: like every in every region, there's a couple of powerhouse 576 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: high school programs. We we have the Saint Joe's Prep, 577 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: uh here, which is Marvin Harrison junior went there, Jeremiah 578 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: Trotter junior went there. They have like a it's a 579 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: huge deal, right, and so they're going to get the 580 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: best kids. 581 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: Now, how long until they go? All right? 582 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: And in every other matter day right, every other big 583 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: high school program is probably going to follow suit. And 584 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you have all these young athletes. 585 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: It's a complete change of the landscape in all of sport. 586 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: When when college turns like this and becomes completely professionalized, 587 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: it just opens the door for the whole thing. 588 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 589 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 4: Well, when we are living in a society, he noticed 590 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 4: that in a world for once, Jade and rashatas suit 591 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 4: Florida for a failed fourteen million dollar nil deal. If 592 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: these guys are pulling in fourteen million dollar nil deals, yeah, 593 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: it only makes sense that at some point now it's 594 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: going to be Hey, I got to get my kid 595 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: into that high school because that high school has a 596 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: better shot at getting him the fourteen million dollar payday, 597 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: like the payday process is no longer going now. Maybe 598 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: the hope from the NCAA is that by coming to 599 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: this settlement and starting moving forward, they'll be able to 600 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: standardize a little of the money from school to school 601 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: to school, and they'll be able to get rid of 602 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: some of these huge collective deals. 603 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't really know that yet, but if that is 604 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: what their hope is. 605 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: Still, if you're sitting here and you've got a seventh 606 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: grader somewhere and he's gonna go play, you want to 607 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 4: put him in a situation where he's gonna play in 608 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: high school somewhere where he has a shot at in 609 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: four years getting that fourteen million dollar deal, and also 610 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: not for nothing. It's got to take away some of 611 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: the love of the game at that age too. Like 612 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: if I'm a dad, not me personally, but there are 613 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: many dads out there that are gonna look at their 614 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: eighth grader and be like, I don't care what you 615 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: want to do with your life. 616 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Right now, you are four years away from a fat. 617 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: Dollarder and a fifth grader who both play ball. 618 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Right Like a little bit later on today, I'll go 619 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: with my Anthony. 620 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: He has his you know, we have a. 621 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Jody Strength trainer for football and will go and work out. 622 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: Now he loves it. So it's not like I'm you know, 623 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: pushing to do that. But he you know, he wants 624 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: to play. He's going to a pretty really really good 625 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: program in South Jersey and you know he's got you know, 626 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: really good sides. 627 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 6: And the motivation just changes though once money gets involved 628 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: as opposed to that. 629 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 5: That's the thing, right, That's what it's just kind of 630 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 5: alluding to. 631 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: Yah, go back to my music. Look, I I wanted 632 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: to play there. 633 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: You were a product I wanted. 634 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a musician. There was never a 635 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: doubt of it. 636 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: But I have so many friends whose stage moms and 637 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: stage dads didn't even love performing, but man, they were 638 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: bringing him money. And there's a very real thing in 639 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: the music. Like I was earning when I was a kid. Right, 640 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: So if you're earning when you're twelve or thirteen years 641 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: old and your family all of a sudden in many families, 642 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: just wasn't the case for me, but many families like, well, 643 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: now mom or dad quits their job because they're gonna 644 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: they're gonna make sure that they're mamager or the dadager, 645 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: you know, and they're they're getting you ready, and then 646 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you really have this expectation and 647 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: now you're not just providing for yourself, you're providing for 648 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 4: your family. 649 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: And like, that's real for kids in the music business 650 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: all the time. 651 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: I just feel like that's gonna go through the roof 652 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: now where like little Tony somewhere might be a pretty 653 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: good quarterback that kind of likes. 654 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Playing football, just wants to play for fun. 655 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: But the minute his dad figures out that there could 656 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: be an eight or nine million dollar payday, woo, all 657 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's like, nope, you will do this 658 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: and only this, Like I just there, there's trickle down 659 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: effect of this to. 660 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 5: Feel No Tom Marinovich is coming up, you know. 661 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you saw the McCaffrey's father, right, 662 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: that whole thing about not allowing he couldn't squint because 663 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: it would take up I don't know energy, and he 664 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: could wear jeans. 665 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: The school didn't know it ed McCaffrey said that he 666 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 6: couldn't squint yescause Jeffrey, I didn't hear this story. 667 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: I missed this completely. 668 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there was. It was like he 669 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: had to go to bed in seven point thirty. 670 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: He had like little things like he he taught him 671 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: not to squint. 672 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: He taught him to save his voice. 673 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: I pat like all this stuff to save energy, down 674 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: to the point where he made him not he had 675 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: to only wear sweats, not jeans because jeans were heavy 676 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: on his legs. Jez, yes, yeah. 677 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: And the problem is, and it obviously worked out for 678 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 6: Christian and his brothers who had you know, we're the 679 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 6: good college careers too, But I feel like ninety percent 680 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 6: of the time is all over the top and it 681 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 6: ends up being bad for the kid. 682 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 3: Well you brought and yeah, you know, I mean, and 683 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: that's the ultimate. 684 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: That was the ultimate Tragy, right, Like he was a 685 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: wonder kid and he just went bad. 686 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: But it was like trained from like birth to try 687 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 6: to be the star quarterback by his father. 688 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: Right for you. I'm sorry for people that don't know 689 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: the story. You know. So Todd Marinovich was this kid. 690 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Who was you know, you're like fig He's right, like 691 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: he was programmed as a child. His father denied him 692 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: of any like childhood treats. Right, no soda, Donald's you know, 693 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: and stuff like, you know, the kids, it's party child 694 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: kid right right, righte? Some passage. I mean, you know, 695 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there's an argument to you know, 696 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: not allowing certain things. 697 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 6: You know. 698 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I can't. I can't front I mean, 699 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: I you know, I let them, I give them treats. 700 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I try to limit it within reason, 701 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: but you know, I mean, you know, how do you 702 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: tell kids, you know, you can't have ice cream? 703 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: Like seriously, like you know, I mean it shouldn't. Shouldn't 704 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: the childhood be a little bit of a fun time 705 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: before you have it you're an adult and you know, 706 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: you you have to get serious. 707 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 5: It's like what is a temple? And to a degree 708 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 5: it is. But when you're that young, you can eat 709 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 5: anything and bounce back. You'll be fine. 710 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's. 711 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 4: It's it's just tough because so often the adults get 712 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 4: carried away with the dream, you know, and it's it's really. 713 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 3: In dud I see it every day. 714 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 11: Man. 715 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like we need more people in the world that 716 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 4: are honest with the talent level of the kilt and 717 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: the kids that they have. It's like, you know what 718 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 4: your kid's not gonna. It's just just stop like your 719 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 4: kid's not great. It's just enjoy it, don't do it well. 720 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: It's hard about it like and fairness. I'll tell you, 721 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: we gotta take a quick time out. 722 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: I will. 723 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: I need to put the other side out there only 724 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: in in this way. But you're you're spot on. But 725 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: there is a little bit of nuance that I want 726 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: to bring to the table where the fellas having to 727 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: discuss it. Always a lot of fun hang with us 728 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: Memorial Day weekend and beyond. 729 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: Right here on Fox Sports Radio. 730 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 731 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: All right, fellas, Jason Fitz Kevin Figures. 732 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargano's we hang out from the tire Rack 733 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 2: dot Com Studios, Fox Ports Radio. 734 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: So we're talking of this, you know, this whole world. 735 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: Where college You got me saying it now, FITZI uh, 736 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: we're you know, give the college sports is affected and 737 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: there's a trickle down and you know, I and I 738 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: live it with my two boys who are eleven and fourteen, 739 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: and you know, they both play sports and and I'm 740 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: around you know, baseball tournaments and football and I coach basketball. 741 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: Now through certain things like that, people are completely delusional, 742 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: like you said, like FITZI, which is you know, come on, 743 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: like you know, wake up, like your kid's not going 744 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: to do be X. 745 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Y and Z. 746 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: And that's by large true, right, especially when you're talking 747 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: talking about you know, sports, like like basketball, right, like 748 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: I see it all the time. Like you know, you 749 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 2: got the guys that are just insane about basketball, and 750 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: I go, you. 751 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 3: Know, your kid's going to be five to eleven. 752 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: Then you know he's a nice little player in suburban 753 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: you know, fifth grade, sixth grade whatever, you know. I mean, 754 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: you know, there's a complete difference in elite talent, especially 755 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 2: just like basketball, but football and baseball of just the 756 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: team sports, and I guess you know soccer, I mean, 757 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: who knows. We have a kid in my area, Caven 758 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 2: Sullivan who's fourteen years old. He gets signed by I 759 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: guess Man United or Man City and yeah he's going 760 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: to play because of the child labor laws in England, 761 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: he's going to play for the Union of the m 762 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: of the of the here right and uh and then 763 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: you know at eighteen he'll go over and. 764 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: It's it's a really good story. 765 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: But like baseball and football, I mean, who knows, Like 766 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: if you if you have size, such decent size and 767 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: in those in those sports like that, and I see, 768 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: you know hockey is the same way. You know, you 769 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: never know, right like, so if the kid is into it, 770 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 2: right like, by all means have that because you don't 771 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen until they hit puberty, and you 772 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: know there's such the variables are you know, it's crazy, 773 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: right like when you're trying to project children like you 774 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: just don't know what's gonna happen until their sophomore junior year, 775 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: how they start to go even then sometimes you have 776 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: late growers, how they're gonna be physical physically. 777 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: That that's a fair it's a very fair point. You 778 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: never know. 779 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 4: And certainly there's a difference between you know, if you 780 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 4: say down and coaches, Yeah, he's he doesn't have what 781 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 4: it takes to play D one and it only fires 782 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: him up and he wants to play even more. Here 783 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 4: she wants to eat play even more. Okay, if he 784 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: loves doing it, if it's this competitive fire, that's fine. 785 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 4: If mom or dad is pushing him for it and 786 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 4: he doesn't really love it, and it's like but mom 787 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: and dad evince he's gonna get him rid, it's like 788 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 4: that's more than but you're one hundred percent right, Like 789 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: if heck, if they love it and they want to 790 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 4: do it, fine, But it just feels like that was 791 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 4: something that could be explored along with other things for 792 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 4: so many years. It's like, hey, you can play a 793 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 4: bunch of different sports and figure out what you want 794 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 4: to be and what you want to do, and you 795 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 4: have all these years to be formative. And for the 796 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: longest time you could in society look at you know, 797 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: college's formative years. Now, I honestly believe more and more 798 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 4: high school has become that. Like and I'm not even 799 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 4: just talking about sports, it doesn't matter what industry you're in. 800 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 4: Like at this point, kids are accelerating at such a 801 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: fast pace that it feels like more kids need to 802 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 4: know what they want to do earlier. More kids are 803 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 4: out there earning, building followings, doing whatever they do, earning money, 804 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: doing whatever they do at a younger age than ever. 805 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 4: They're they're able to whether it's playing video games or 806 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: whether it's I'm just in an athlete, like like you're 807 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 4: out there like building your following on Like we're in 808 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 4: the spot now where like now you know there are 809 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 4: kids in high school that are making more than adults 810 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 4: that are listening to this show, right, so there's less 811 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 4: and less time to actually figure that out. And I 812 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 4: just think the trickle down for college football becomes Okay, Well, 813 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 4: now if you identify that a kid's good in seventh grade, boy, 814 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: well you would have put the hammer down right then, like, hey, 815 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: this is your opportunity to change the rest of your life. 816 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: Like I can hear these speeches in my head right now, 817 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: and that's just it. It sort of bums me out. 818 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: And I get why. 819 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 2: I mean, because you're accelerating childhood, which is I don't 820 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: think healthy, right, And it's weird because you're while we 821 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: accelerate childhood maturity levels are you know also do like 822 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: when you were an eighteen year old kid, like you 823 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: you know this, right, Like if you go back into 824 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: the sixties and seventies, right, like, an eighteen year old 825 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: man was more of a man than an eighteen year 826 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: old today, right, Like that true? 827 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: I mean those people were hard, and you know that's 828 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: certainly more than me. 829 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 2: Like we're talking, it's a World Day weekend and all 830 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 2: those you know, those men who fought for our country, 831 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: I mean they were eighteen nineteen and they were men, right, 832 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: And you know I wasn't like that in eighteen nineteen. 833 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 4: God, when you say it that way, it really hits 834 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 4: me how different the world was versus where the world 835 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 4: is right now, and the expectations of a kid that's sixteen, seventeen, 836 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 4: eighteen years old. 837 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: It's it's wild, completely wild, all right, fun discussion always 838 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: fell as Big Hour coming up next Fox Sports Radio. 839 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, alright, that's us 840 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin Figures, I mean Anthony Gargan, and we 841 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: could be live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 842 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: Tyrack dot com will help you get there and on 843 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 2: met selection fans, free chipping, free road as a protection 844 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers, tire i rack dot com 845 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: the way tire bite should be. 846 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 3: First hour all over. 847 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: Obviously, lots of talk about the college situation, college sports situation, NCAA, 848 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: which has always been a joke, a flat out nonsense, 849 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: ridiculous temple of nonsense. 850 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 3: And then. 851 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: The NBA Playoffs and that game last night was thrilling, 852 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: absolutely thrilling. I do have a question for you guys, 853 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: just philosophically, I was talking about the NBA Playoffs and 854 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 2: some friends and the whole thing, and nobody's nobody watches it, 855 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: and they were like no, like they gave me. They 856 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 2: were so dismissive, and I felt almost like an outcast 857 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: that I was watching, Like I was making a point. 858 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 2: The Phillies are off to this incredible start, and so 859 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: the whole city's grew in on the Phillies every pitch 860 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 2: and like they were winning. 861 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 3: I don't know, the other day, like eleven to three. 862 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 3: It was a blowout. 863 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 2: So I switched to the like I went switch to 864 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: the basketball game, and people are like, well really, I'm like, yeah, 865 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: the playoffs are you guys watching them? 866 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: Nah? 867 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: No way, And it was really dismissive about it. And 868 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: you know what's interesting is that, I guess back in 869 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: the day, the World Series was like this, you know, 870 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: communal thing where. 871 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 3: The whole country would stop and watch. 872 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 2: Now then that gets replaced spy NFL football in the 873 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 2: Super Bowl by the NBA doesn't have that as as 874 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 2: much as we talk about its popularity. 875 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: Do you guys run into that too? 876 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: H I mean, it's funny. 877 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 4: I do a weekly interview with a radio station in 878 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 4: Nashville every week, and the crux of the interview last 879 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 4: week was why are so many people talking about the 880 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: NBA when nobody cares on the ESPN. That was the 881 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 4: crux of the entire time that we spent talking on 882 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 4: the phone, or was nobody's paying attention to it. 883 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: Here's here's the interesting thing. 884 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 4: My NBA had friends and I enjoy watching it, right 885 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 4: Like I think for me, I enjoy playoff basketball. 886 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: I always have. So for me, it's it's it's a 887 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: draw for a lot of people. 888 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 4: It just when when you look at this final four, 889 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 4: and this is where everybody yells and screams about what 890 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 4: gets covered in how it gets covered. But when you 891 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 4: look at these final four teams, I don't think your 892 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 4: average fan that barely cares about the NBA that usually 893 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 4: would be flocking in to watch the final four teams 894 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 4: of the NBA season take each other on. I'm not 895 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 4: sure any of them even have a formed opinion about 896 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 4: Indiana or Minnesota. They know who Luca is, but they 897 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 4: probably don't care about Dallas. And the Celtics are great, 898 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 4: and they're only in the sense that they're either loved 899 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 4: or hated and people care, But that's not enough to 900 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 4: make people drop everything to watch in the modern society. 901 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 4: I just I do think that this part of what 902 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 4: the NBA has to have happen, and we see this 903 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 4: all the time, is that when we create and craft 904 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 4: narratives that say, essentially, you've got to be great in 905 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 4: the playoffs, well, the next generation of stars always have 906 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 4: to be made in the playoffs. So it's gonna take 907 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 4: you know, Brown and Tatum winning a championship on their backs. 908 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 4: It's gonna take Anthony Edwards doing something absolutely phenomenal. It's 909 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 4: Haliburton doing something that suddenly resonates and you have to 910 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 4: hear it over and over and over again in playoff 911 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 4: game and playoff games to create a real level of superstar. 912 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 4: And we haven't seen that happen yet in this group 913 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 4: of players. So it just feels like it falls flat 914 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 4: to the casuals. 915 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 3: You know. 916 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 2: It's weird is that I hear like nobody cares about 917 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 2: the regular season, and then I hear, well, you know 918 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: who's watching the NBA playoffs? 919 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: Like like I'm thinking, well, what does anybody care? 920 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 4: But then they're getting historic money on these network deals, right, 921 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 4: So like somebody's looking around and saying, Okay, well, there's 922 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 4: there's proof, there's proof positive that it can make money, 923 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 4: But no, I do I think in general, and I'm 924 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 4: saying this is somebody again who's enjoyed the NBA playoffs 925 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 4: this year and enjoys playoff basketball, I feel like some 926 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 4: of the allure right now is just it's in a 927 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 4: little bit of a lull. It's just it's a little 928 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 4: bit of a lull to the casual fan just flocking 929 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 4: to talk about it, and yeah, this is the expected. 930 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: Lull when Steph and Lebron and the guys that we've 931 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: been talking about. 932 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 2: You think it's clearly about that, like you think it's 933 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: it's about I mean, just the leg. 934 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 4: The league built there, the entire popularity on the names 935 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 4: on the back, not the names on the front, and 936 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 4: totally the opposite of the NFL. 937 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: So if you're going to build a highlight driven league, 938 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: and I've said this. 939 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 4: To you guys before, but I remember when I first 940 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 4: started hosting Sports Center on Snapchat. 941 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: When that first I was one of the first hosts 942 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: of that show. 943 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 4: We learned quickly in the very beginning that because we 944 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 4: could see our metrics every day exactly when kids were 945 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 4: tuning out. We learned immediately that what kids cared about, 946 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 4: they didn't even care about the score, they didn't care 947 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 4: about the story of the game. They cared about the 948 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 4: oh my god, this guy did this great thing. So 949 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 4: the whole show was built on those individual highlights because 950 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 4: kids thirteen to twenty four only wanted to see individual 951 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 4: highlights from great players, So we made sure we focused 952 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 4: on that every night. That's why the numbers ballooned on 953 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 4: that show. So I look at that and I say, Okay, 954 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 4: if you're going to build your entire sport based on man, 955 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 4: you've got to see this at the time, Lonzo ball highlight. 956 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: As as crazy as that sounds, but if you're going 957 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: to build it on you've got to see this. 958 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 4: Highlight from this guy. You better have a constant group 959 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 4: of guys that are always coming in, that are always interesting. 960 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: The kids are gonna want to flock to watch. And 961 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 4: if you don't have that, then if you're building your 962 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 4: sport based on the popularity of the individual more so 963 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 4: than the popularity of the team, you better have individuals 964 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 4: at every level that are interesting. 965 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 2: It's fascinating fig yeah, you know, And the circles that 966 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 2: I ran in it's growing up, we were all such 967 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 2: hoopheads that it didn't necessarily matter. 968 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 6: And many of my same friends when that's those circles 969 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 6: still a watch a random NBA game on a Tuesday night. 970 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 6: But I think the greater you know, country, and just 971 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 6: the way things people look at it is, Yeah, if 972 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 6: the players are not gonna take and organizations to a 973 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 6: certain degree are not gonna take the regular season seriously, 974 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 6: why would you ask the fans to so? 975 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people end up tuning it out. 976 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 6: Like I look, we've talked about on this show about 977 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 6: regular season basketball, and Fits brought up the fact that 978 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 6: Eve enjoys the playoffs but not so much the regular season. 979 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 6: I'll watch the regular season for sure, but I certainly 980 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 6: understand that the majority of people don't. And the more 981 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 6: and more you let allow apathy to set in for 982 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 6: the regular season. And on top of the fact that 983 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 6: you don't have a domestic superstar like we were talking 984 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 6: about and trying to basically manufacture it right now with 985 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards, you know, I think that's another factor that 986 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 6: gets thrown in there too. I think there's apathy that 987 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 6: sets in with the playoffs as well to a certain degree. 988 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean, let's oversimplify this, guys. 989 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 4: If you walked into a bar tonight in a non 990 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 4: NBA city, If you just walked into a bar tonight 991 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 4: in you know whatever, Topeka, Kansas, right, and you're hanging 992 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: out with your buddies in Tapeka, Kansas, and you turn 993 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 4: around and you look at and you're like, oh, man, Now, 994 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 4: over the course of the last several years, you've been 995 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 4: able to see did you see what Steph did last night? 996 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 4: And people know who he is? It took a minute 997 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 4: for all of the Warriors greatness, people know, Oh do 998 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 4: you see what Lebron did last night? Those are real conversations. 999 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 4: Do you think you're walking into a random sports bar 1000 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 4: in a non NBA city city or a random bar 1001 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 4: in a non NBA city saying man, Luca versus an 1002 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 4: did you see that? Like that's not gonna resonate, that's 1003 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 4: just doesn't even sing it it does. 1004 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 3: Hello. 1005 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm sorry that staff for a second. Yeah no, 1006 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 2: I It's it's so fascinating the way the way you 1007 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 2: say that, you know, I feel you could it be 1008 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: that the n b A had its moment like I 1009 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 2: don't you know, it was a deadly Jordan's like saves 1010 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: it resuscitate, it then goes into a slumber again. Right 1011 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 2: Like post Jordan, you got Kobe Shack right and and 1012 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: then and then you have it with Lebron and Steph 1013 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 2: in a big way. But there's been periods where it 1014 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 2: was League of slumber. It could we be back to that. 1015 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 6: It hasn't been for a while though, I guess is 1016 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 6: the problem to your point, you just talked about the 1017 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 6: linea just that's a thirty year span right there. That's 1018 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 6: a generation of basketball. 1019 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 2: But there was a dip after Jordan, Like we it's 1020 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 2: it's hard for me to talk about. 1021 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. 1022 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 5: Now you covered the league at the time too, so. 1023 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like it's hard for me, Like it's one 1024 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 2: thing for me to say, wow, you know Kobe Shack 1025 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: the Iverson because it was it was big in my circles, 1026 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: in my region and everything else. 1027 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 5: Iverson. 1028 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 6: I think it was big nationally for sure, you know, 1029 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 6: I would saying especially for kids in the inner city 1030 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 6: and all that. He definitely had had a huge mark 1031 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 6: on the league nationwide. 1032 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 3: But was it like was it the Massies? Did it 1033 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 3: have the audience? 1034 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: Like clearly Lebron. Now, Lebron's in the league of a 1035 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 2: long time now, right, But Lebron and like, I think 1036 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 2: there's a there is a certain dip, Like if i'm 1037 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 2: we have a float, like if we have a chart, 1038 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: I think the iraw goes down after Jordan and then 1039 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: shoots up and then exceeds Jordan. 1040 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 3: With Lebron and Steph. 1041 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 6: I'd agree if you're talking about, like in a global appeal, 1042 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 6: you haven't as good as Shaq and Kobe Ward. They 1043 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 6: didn't have the global appeal that Lebron and Steph Curry do. 1044 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 6: That is that is one hundred percent true. I'll give 1045 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 6: you that. And I think Lebron but on top of 1046 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 6: his grapes go on. 1047 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 4: It takes greatness in championships to get that though, right 1048 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 4: And like so this is the Tiger debate all over again, right, 1049 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 4: Like how do you get the next Tiger? Well, somebody's 1050 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 4: got to be as good as Tiger. This is the 1051 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 4: thing that we talk about all the time, even in baseball. Like, so, 1052 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 4: if the NBA wants the next Lebron, sep part of 1053 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 4: the reason, because figure, you're right, like, there's a long 1054 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 4: period of time where we've had those stars but we've 1055 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 4: also had a group of stars that have been great 1056 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 4: for a very long time. So now that they're all 1057 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 4: getting long in the tooth, it's gonna take one of 1058 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 4: these younger guys going on a run, right like fire, 1059 00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 4: It's gonna take somebody. 1060 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm winning a bunch of chips to get to 1061 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: that point, or at least competing for a bunch. 1062 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 6: Of yah, someone like Jason Tatum has to like get 1063 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 6: to the finals and win a couple of championships or 1064 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 6: something like that. You know, one of those sorts of players, 1065 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 6: and it just has it doesn't seem to be on 1066 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 6: the verge of happening. To be honest, even I still 1067 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 6: don't have confidence in Boston. I think Anthony brought that 1068 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 6: up earlier. The best players, the faces of the league 1069 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 6: right now, are foreign born players. They're not domestic players, 1070 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 6: and I think that to a certain degree, it's maybe 1071 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 6: not a great degree, but I think that that doesn't 1072 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 6: help the NBA's calls either. 1073 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 4: Isn't it wild though, that the very thing that we 1074 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 4: say makes the NFL beautiful is it every year you 1075 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 4: have no idea who could win the dang thing every 1076 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 4: single year, and yet the conversation last week about can 1077 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 4: you be a back to back champion in the NBA anymore? 1078 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: Probably not, Like the league's not really built for that. 1079 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 4: That seems to be a detriment for what the NBA 1080 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 4: needs to accomplish right now, while it is at the 1081 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 4: same time one of the very strengths that make people 1082 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 4: flock to the NFL. 1083 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: I can't make it make sense to just is what 1084 00:52:59,280 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: it is. 1085 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 6: Its little sense because I someone who's a parody guy. 1086 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 6: I'm parody in the NFL. I'm parody in the NBA. 1087 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 6: I love competition, I love not knowing who's gonna win. 1088 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm the minority in that. But we 1089 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 6: talk we've talked about towards the end of the regular 1090 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 6: season in the NBA just how competitive it's, specifically the 1091 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 6: Western Conference was, and he said, we can make an 1092 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 6: argument one through eight that any of these teams can 1093 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 6: end up making it to the NBA Finals, and every 1094 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 6: set three and five are the ones facing each other 1095 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 6: in the conference final. So if you're just a pure 1096 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 6: basketball fan that just enjoys the league, you enjoy it. 1097 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 6: But if you're a casual and you want to you 1098 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 6: feel good knowing all right, I got Denver in the 1099 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 6: conference finals, you know, against another you know, another superstar player. 1100 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 5: It's weird. The metric is very much different in the 1101 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 5: NBA than it is in the NFL. 1102 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe maybe it's just the NFL. And listen, 1103 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 2: you know we've seen baseball drop off out. It's coming back, 1104 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 2: come back for sure the last couple of years. Like 1105 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 2: you and I think the rule changes help it. And 1106 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: you listen, I'm like, I'm square in a baseball city 1107 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 2: right now. So oh yeah, you know, like they're they're 1108 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,280 Speaker 2: loving it. Man. It's like I've never seen a staate 1109 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: Like it's May and there's forty one thousand people and 1110 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 2: you're singing, dancing, and you know, it's just they're. 1111 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 3: In every pitch. It's bizarre, like it's unbelievable. 1112 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: But you know, it's so funny, like the all roads 1113 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 2: go always go back to football and football's dominance and 1114 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 2: hold on the American public. 1115 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, which it's got to be frustrating, I'm just saying, 1116 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 4: got to be frustrating for every other. 1117 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: Sport to look at it and say, but we're doing 1118 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: the same thing and it's not working. 1119 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: No, no, And again, it's funny because you know, like 1120 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: that was a great game last night, and I do 1121 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 2: you know, obviously we're going to talk about it, but 1122 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 2: it's not. 1123 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 3: Like it drives the conversation four hours. 1124 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: Now. 1125 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 3: I get, I'm doing this a long time. 1126 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: And there was always like the four hour topics, right, 1127 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 2: like if you're the typical radio shift, it's four hours 1128 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: and you have this. 1129 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 3: There's always like, you know, like we. 1130 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 2: Could talk super Ball, right, we could talk NFL playoffs easy, 1131 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, these big stories, but like watching a playoff 1132 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: game last night, it's hey, how about that shot Luca 1133 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 2: to get a little nuance and. 1134 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 3: Then you know, move on. 1135 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't think the biggest difference for all 1136 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 4: of that is if we tried to sit here and 1137 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 4: talk about Luca versus Aunt for four hours, people would 1138 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 4: listen to about eight minutes of it and then they 1139 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 4: be gone. Right, But if we sat here and we 1140 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 4: wanted to talk about the super Bowl for four hours, 1141 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 4: people would flock to it. And I don't know how 1142 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 4: you change that. But I can't tell you this, Like 1143 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 4: as much as I hate it, and it might my 1144 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 4: friends and I joke about it all the time, as 1145 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 4: much as I hate it, you can say I don't. 1146 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: Know Michael or Lebron, and people will flock to that 1147 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: for four hours. I don't know why. I don't know why. 1148 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 4: Like people will have that argument about legacy all day long, 1149 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 4: even though everybody rolls their eyes at it. The phone 1150 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 4: lines would light up and we could take the day 1151 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 4: off basically. So you know, it's a weird thing that 1152 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: they just the league's got to find somebody at this point. 1153 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: It just takes time. 1154 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,720 Speaker 4: Is somebody's gonna have to become as polarizing an opinion 1155 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 4: or as great in stature as the Lebron era has 1156 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 4: been for that same level of care to come in. 1157 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's what it is. The NBA is star driven. 1158 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 6: They need a player or a couple of players to 1159 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 6: carry the mantle and bring some excitement and bring the 1160 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 6: fans in. The NFL is just the league itself. It 1161 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. The league is the star. So look, scoring 1162 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 6: has been down to the NFL the last couple of seasons. 1163 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 6: Look at the Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs for 1164 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 6: eighty percent of last season that couldn't score to save 1165 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 6: their lives. Didn't matter, Still end up winning, Still end 1166 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 6: up getting a lot of highly rated primetime games. They 1167 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 6: when they say the NFL is king, it is the 1168 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 6: NFL in any facet good football, bad football. It's football, 1169 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 6: and it's always going to win. The league wins, doesn't 1170 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 6: matter who the individuals are. And for the NBA it's different. Mark, 1171 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 6: You have a thought, buddy, Mark, just. 1172 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 12: Listening about just observation about basketball. It seems like no 1173 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 12: one has been able to live up to a good 1174 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 12: reputation most of the teams or so basketball has dropped 1175 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 12: down when it comes to okay, load management, so people 1176 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 12: you know, the good players or players aren't there, they 1177 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 12: don't play, and that you set aside for injury, but 1178 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 12: just that the players aren't holding up and teams aren't 1179 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 12: holding up to any kind of reputation that they either 1180 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 12: used to have from older players or current players to 1181 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 12: be able to sustain their team and their name. You 1182 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 12: could be individuals, but your team has been able to 1183 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 12: bring the masses and hold their attention enough. And so 1184 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 12: basketball overall has dropped down a couple pegs. 1185 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 3: Well, and that is spoken like a man from Chicago. 1186 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 3: That's spoken like a man who was raised with Jordan 1187 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 3: Fritzy just said it. 1188 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: You could have the argument right Lebron versus Jordan, and 1189 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 2: Mark's basically saying that I said. 1190 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 4: Quickly, I'll say this. Had a friend on radio a 1191 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 4: few years ago who, as a joke, teased, you know, 1192 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 4: Lebron versus MJ, who's the actual gun, throw out the 1193 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 4: phone number because he didn't know what they were talking about. 1194 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: On the next segment. The phones lit up and they 1195 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: never stopped for the entire show, and it became a joke. 1196 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 4: It became a running joke that he's like, anytime I 1197 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 4: don't know what I'm gonna say, I'll just say Lebron 1198 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: versus MJ. 1199 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: And I can sit back and know I can take 1200 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: the next segment off. And he was never wrong, never wrong. 1201 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: Well, and you could say it, and you could say 1202 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: seventeen different ways, you know, to like the true goat, 1203 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: the real goat, like you know, it's so it's it's crazy, 1204 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 2: It truly, it truly is. All right, we gotta take 1205 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 2: quick too, We'll come right back. And I love the 1206 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: aspect and I'm curious it is college football, well college football, 1207 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 2: especially with the expanded playoffs. I got it pretty excited 1208 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: looking at that schedule. Uh, can it take that leap 1209 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 2: to where the NFL is I'm curious what you guys think. 1210 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 2: Fellas right here Fox Sports Radio. Fellas from the tai 1211 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 2: Iraq dot com studios. And by the way, surely at 1212 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 2: the show, our podcast goes up, so miss of today's show, 1213 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast to search Fox 1214 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,439 Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. Sure to follow, 1215 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 2: rate and review the podcasts again to search Fox Sports 1216 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see this 1217 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off the air. So 1218 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 2: let me ask you guys a question about college football. 1219 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 2: And you know, we know how big it is, but 1220 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 2: now it's actually with a true playoff system, it can 1221 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 2: expand beyond the pockets where college football's king right and 1222 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 2: the cities that are really pro cities. Do you think 1223 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 2: it goes and it starts to almost I don't want 1224 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 2: to say rivally I the rival the NFL, but it's 1225 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 2: in that pantheon where you know you're going to have 1226 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 2: a real playoff system. It's you know it's gonna be, 1227 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, big from a mag the two standpoint, will 1228 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 2: it come close to the NFL? 1229 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 8: No? 1230 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to. 1231 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 4: But the funny thing is you can't change certain wiring 1232 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 4: for people in my mind, like it takes a long 1233 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 4: time for people to suddenly fall in love with a sport, 1234 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 4: Like the number of times I've heard, like I've been 1235 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 4: in this business at a full time level for eight 1236 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 4: years at this point, and the number of times I've heard, 1237 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 4: oh my god, look around the corner of soccer is 1238 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 4: about to take over, right And you know, I'm not 1239 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 4: saying that soccer isn't growing, it is, but his soccer 1240 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 4: taken over? Like are we tuning into morning shows across 1241 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 4: the country to hearing soccer takes now? Like it's so 1242 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 4: hard to get a new generation of fans to love it. 1243 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 4: And I say that having spent so much time over 1244 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 4: the last few years of my life in New England 1245 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 4: and being stunned at how little that area cares about 1246 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 4: college football just on the whole. I've told this story before, 1247 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 4: but I've or when I first went up to Bristol, Connecticut, 1248 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 4: and I was going up there, and I was at 1249 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 4: the time, I wasn't full time at ESPN. 1250 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: I was just going up to meet with people. And 1251 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I went into a Buffalo Wild Wings that's like two. 1252 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 4: Minutes from campus at ESPN, and I walked in and 1253 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 4: there was a huge college football game going on, and 1254 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 4: I asked if they would turn it on, and it 1255 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 4: was like a Saturday in December, and the answer I 1256 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 4: got was no, like flat out the managers just like 1257 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 4: no man, nobody in the bar cares about that. And 1258 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 4: they were playing repeats of like old hockey games and 1259 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 4: repeating baseball games. 1260 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: I promise you, and it goes somewhere else to watch 1261 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: a football game. 1262 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, that must be the rarity now. 1263 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 4: It is so hard on any given Saturday in that 1264 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 4: area to walk in and just find random games. So 1265 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 4: it is there are certain parts of the country that 1266 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 4: just have this mindset that I don't want to watch 1267 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 4: an inferior football product. I only watch the NFL because 1268 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 4: they didn't grow up around the passion of college football. 1269 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 4: And I don't know how you turn those fans into 1270 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 4: passionate college football lovers. 1271 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that anything does that quickly. 1272 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 6: It would quickly, No, I think it would have to 1273 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 6: be some something revolutionary. I'll go back to use La 1274 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 6: as an example. It was a Dodger town for so long, 1275 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 6: and Jerry Buzz purchased the Lakers from Jack Kent Cook 1276 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 6: in the seventies and they had a bit of a 1277 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 6: lull before Maggie Johnson came in and Jerry Buss introduced 1278 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 6: the Laker Girls and made everything into an event, and 1279 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 6: it never turned from a Dodgertown to a Lakertown. But 1280 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 6: the Lakers finally kind of elbowed their way into the market. 1281 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 6: So now you can say the Dodgers are one A 1282 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 6: and the Lakers are one B, and that can interchange 1283 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 6: depending on the season. It would take some sort of 1284 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 6: sensation of some sort of ground swell, a superstar player, coach, 1285 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 6: multiple championships, something like that for that to sort of 1286 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 6: make a dent, especially in a place like that where 1287 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 6: it's been ingrained for so long we're talking decades at 1288 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 6: this point in time. Can't It's possible, but it's just 1289 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 6: not likely because you're talking about once in a generation 1290 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 6: type stuff that would need to happen in order for 1291 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 6: something like that's a flip that way. 1292 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 4: But phe let me, let me let me ask you this, 1293 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 4: because we talked about the inconsistencies of the way we 1294 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 4: receive certain things from different sports, why is it that 1295 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 4: multiple championships from the Warriors becomes this endearing, Oh my 1296 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 4: god thing that we we can't believe. 1297 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: And then we see an. 1298 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 4: Era of dominance in Alabama and the coverage is, well, 1299 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 4: is this really bad? Like is Alabama's dominance bad for 1300 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 4: the sport overall? 1301 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 2: Right? 1302 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 4: Like, it is funny to me that we sort of 1303 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 4: pick and choose when we like dominance and personality, because certainly, 1304 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 4: do you have bigger personalities than we've had with Harbaugh 1305 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 4: and Nick Saban and the level of dominance that we've 1306 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 4: seen from certain programs just hasn't It doesn't resonate that 1307 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 4: the conversation isn't Oh my god, I can't believe we 1308 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 4: are watching this historic era of Georgia football or whatever. 1309 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 4: It turns around instead and it's like, you know, the 1310 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 4: SEC socks Like it's just it's funny how the reception 1311 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 4: is different of dominance. 1312 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not wrong, And it could be a regional 1313 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 6: thing too when it comes to college full because it's 1314 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 6: just such a it's an SEC and I'm a big 1315 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 6: ten guy and I'm a pac twelve guy, and I'm 1316 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 6: a you know, so. 1317 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at LA right, look at your 1318 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 2: area figure you always talk about it ATC is bigger 1319 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 2: than the rams. 1320 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 6: Oh easily without and that was gonna be the next example, Like, 1321 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 6: can you is anything bigger than the NFL. It's like 1322 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 6: when USC is good, they're bigger than the Rams easily, 1323 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:22,959 Speaker 6: And it's without question. 1324 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 4: That's funny to me, just because again, growing up in 1325 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 4: Vegas as a kid, UNLV football, despite the fact that 1326 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 4: we had Icky Woods and Randall cunning out, was never 1327 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 4: it never really transcended. It was UNLV basketball town, right, 1328 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 4: So I grew up not really caring that much about 1329 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 4: college football in Vegas, and then when I moved to 1330 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 4: the East Coast, you know, they didn't care about it there. 1331 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 4: I went to I finished high school in Maryland, right, 1332 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 4: Like nobody was clamoring for University of Maryland football in 1333 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 4: the nineties. Like it just wasn't a thing, right, So 1334 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 4: you piece all that together. It wasn't until I moved 1335 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 4: to Nashville that it was like, oh my god, this 1336 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 4: it's different. This is a way of life, this is 1337 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 4: a this is a general rational cooked in I've been 1338 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 4: watching these games my entire life with my grandpa, and like, 1339 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 4: this is this is what our family does on Saturdays 1340 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 4: in the tradition, and all of the things that I've 1341 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 4: fallen in love with and covering it. But I don't 1342 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 4: know how you get those generations of passion to come 1343 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 4: together in an area that you know, if you're talking. 1344 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: About New England, you're like, yeah, what are you rooting 1345 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: for Boston College? 1346 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, what is what's even up there 1347 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 6: Boston other than Boston College. Well, it's interesting because you 1348 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 6: have that whole Carter. Right, So it's not just New England. 1349 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 6: New York doesn't care about college football right at all? Right, 1350 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 6: Philadelphia doesn't care about college football? 1351 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 3: Right? You know Penn State is closer to Pittsburgh. 1352 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not really Philadelphia. 1353 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 3: Right. You mentioned Maryland and d C. 1354 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Right, so you have the entire Northeast down to the 1355 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 2: mid Atlantic states that don't like But now Chicago loves 1356 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 2: college football. Go was Notre Dame, you know, Chicago loves 1357 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 2: it obviously Texas, right, So Dallas so. 1358 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 6: Just has its own niche in there with with the 1359 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 6: Cowboys two and ut they both are kind of popular. 1360 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 5: In their own way. 1361 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 3: It's right, like George, I mean, Georgia is bigger than 1362 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 3: the Falcons. 1363 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the Falcons are barely a blip. 1364 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 4: And yeah, once you get into the south once you 1365 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 4: once you hit the south of the Mason Dixon line, 1366 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 4: it's different. But also, like as you speak, Anthony, it 1367 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 4: makes me think of how many other like Okay, Idaho, 1368 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 4: you know, Montana, I know they care about the you know, 1369 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 4: put less be Real, New Mexico, Arizona. 1370 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: How many of those places are clamoring for college football Saturdays. 1371 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 4: They love the NFL, but they're not going to have 1372 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 4: a program that they tie into in their area that 1373 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 4: that is going to compete for a national championship. 1374 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 11: More. 1375 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 2: I just had the opposite kind of reaction, which is 1376 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 2: when we're going through the country, it's really just the northeast, 1377 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Like there's three people in Idaho, God bless you. 1378 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 3: Right, you know, it's it's not heavily popular. 1379 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 5: But then I did the University of Idaho go down 1380 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 5: to FCS this past year? 1381 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 3: Did that happen? I mean, but okay, but I mean 1382 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 3: the Boise think the blue field is a big deal. Yeah, 1383 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 3: you know, I mean we think. 1384 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 4: That Montana, Wyoming, Utah, New Mexico, South Dakota, and North 1385 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 4: Dakota are those places clamoring for big time? 1386 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 1: Like are they gonna Saturday? 1387 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 6: I think they're I think they're involved, you think, yeah, 1388 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 6: because more they're more connected to their college programs than 1389 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 6: any NFL teams. 1390 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 5: I just don't have them, right, Yeah. 1391 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 4: But their college program is never going to be like 1392 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 4: Montana obviously doesn't even have a shot at it, but 1393 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 4: like Wyoming, North Cota, South Dkota also, like we're talking 1394 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 4: about places that don't even really have a shot at 1395 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 4: being a part of what is happening there. So whatever 1396 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 4: they're I'm not saying they're not. Like Idah is a 1397 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 4: great example. Boise State has a rabid, amazing fan base 1398 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 4: that is incredible. 1399 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: But is that going to translate across the country. Boise 1400 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: State isn't going to have a shot at the national 1401 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 1: championship anytime soon? 1402 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 3: I don't know me Because the sport itself, people love 1403 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 3: the sport. 1404 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,640 Speaker 2: And then you go everywhere else in the country, but 1405 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:18,799 Speaker 2: again the Northeast, mid Atlantic side, Detroit, Okay, you got Michigan, 1406 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 2: your lines in Michigan, righto. 1407 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 3: Ohio, right, it was about to just go through that. 1408 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Passionate. 1409 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 2: I mean there, you go all around the country, and 1410 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 2: you know, college football has its has its staples, you know, 1411 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't know other than and again, other than that 1412 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 2: one block in the Northeast and mid Atlantic. 1413 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 6: Well, then I guess what the initial question was, will 1414 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 6: it surpass I believe your question was the rival or. 1415 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll reach the kid because it's football and because 1416 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 2: it's the highest and we're just talking about now paying 1417 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 2: players and you know, all of a sudden, now I 1418 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 2: don't know, like how how does how does this all 1419 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 2: affect you know, bowl games? Right? 1420 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 3: Like, so now you expand playoffs. 1421 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, you know guys who 1422 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 2: are juniors who didn't want to play in a ball 1423 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 2: because they're going to come out and declare for the draft. 1424 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 3: Now you're getting paid, So now there's no hurry to 1425 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,839 Speaker 3: get to the NFL. 1426 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,919 Speaker 1: That is it is interesting. 1427 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 4: I mean I've made the argument a few times that 1428 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 4: I think the payment process, especially for positions like running back, 1429 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 4: could keep guys in longer. I keep hearing, no guys 1430 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 4: want to get in to get closer to their first contract. 1431 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,560 Speaker 4: I think for college sports in general, the longer some 1432 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 4: of these kids stay, the more likely you are to 1433 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 4: have the groundswell you're talking about, because people fall in 1434 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 4: love with Caitlyn Clark's a great example, like, yes, you 1435 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 4: got to have time to fall in love with somebody. 1436 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Right Like. 1437 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 4: I think that we've seen that that worked, and it's 1438 01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 4: particularly working in women's college basketball because the rivalries build, 1439 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 4: and as we said at the time, like it takes 1440 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 4: Caitlyn and Angel sticking around long enough for Kitlyn and 1441 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 4: Angel to have history for Caitlyn and Angel to be 1442 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 4: such a huge story for sports in general. I think 1443 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 4: sticking around is a small piece of what happens you are, 1444 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:16,919 Speaker 4: right though, And it is interesting. 1445 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: I wonder what. 1446 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 4: Happens when guys are getting paid and I hadn't thought 1447 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 4: about this, and then all of a sudden, you're playing 1448 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 4: in the Music City Bowl. That may not be part 1449 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 4: of the playoff process at all, but man, you're getting 1450 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 4: paid and it's a bowl game, so you're gonna get 1451 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 4: out there and play, even if it means it could 1452 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 4: hurt your draft stock, right Like, So that's going to 1453 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 4: be really interesting to me. 1454 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,560 Speaker 1: I'd never thought about what happens in those situations. 1455 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, And there was a report I saw, I don't 1456 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 6: know if it was last month, and I forget exactly 1457 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 6: which publication had it that some of these nil deals 1458 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 6: might have it written in that if a school makes 1459 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,040 Speaker 6: a bowl game, contractually, the player will be obligated to 1460 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 6: play unless they're hurt. Now, how that works if they 1461 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 6: breached that contract or they just pay money and some 1462 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 6: of them want to be willing to a here, take 1463 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 6: five hundred grand back, I'm not playing. I doubt a 1464 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,560 Speaker 6: few of them will be able to be willing to 1465 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 6: do that. But that's certainly a wrinkle that you can 1466 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 6: throw into it. They basically saying, if you signed an 1467 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 6: nil contract, I'm expecting you to play in every single 1468 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 6: game that you're healthy to play in. 1469 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, especially now with this settlement. 1470 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 4: I mean, this settlement paves a way to to make 1471 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 4: it very clearly essentially as part of your job's correct 1472 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 4: Like this is that moment of kids are going to 1473 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 4: be getting paid to play football. So if you don't 1474 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 4: play football, there should be some sort of recourse to 1475 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 4: that that that that'll be really interesting because I'm not 1476 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 4: sure as much as kid wants that money, when you 1477 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 4: know you were a few months away from being drafted, boy, 1478 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 4: I'm not sure you want to put that risk on 1479 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,680 Speaker 4: your body for you know, the. 1480 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't know the dude, you know, part of it's 1481 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 2: the agent too. Talent, I'm talent I'm talent. I'm like, no, no, no, 1482 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 2: don't play. 1483 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 6: You know, I certainly understand it. I mean we always did. 1484 01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 6: The big example is always going to be Jalen Smith 1485 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 6: in that Orange Bowl. 1486 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 3: You know. 1487 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I don't know. 1488 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 3: It's it's a great it's a great debate, it's a 1489 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,839 Speaker 3: great conversation. Actually. 1490 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 4: Well, and and look, if you're one of the if 1491 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 4: you're the Lawnmower Sasparillo whatever Bowl like, or if you're 1492 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 4: the Snoop Dog Bowl, like the Snoop span for the 1493 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 4: stars to play, so like the sponsors want that, I 1494 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 4: think it becomes very interesting because this is just part 1495 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 4: of the evolution of the sport. But also, and I've 1496 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 4: said this before to you guys, I think this is 1497 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 4: going to be the wildest, most exciting year we've ever 1498 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 4: seen in college football because we have no idea like this. 1499 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 4: This ex playoff and this expanded playoff is is going 1500 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 4: to the eyeball should be absolutely through the roof. 1501 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,640 Speaker 1: And I'm one like that, why hate it? 1502 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 4: But like, to me, if you're telling me that we're 1503 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 4: gonna get Ohio State Michigan in the game and then 1504 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 4: Ohio State Michigan in the Big Ten Championship game because 1505 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 4: of the realignment, and then somehow, some way we get 1506 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 4: Ohio State Michigan again in the in the playoff. 1507 01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. 1508 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 4: If if it's two of the best teams in the 1509 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 4: country and I get to see him three times, like, 1510 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 4: I'm all in for that. 1511 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't care if I see the Raiders play the 1512 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Chargers in the regular season in the playoffs like I 1513 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: want this. 1514 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 4: So I might be the outlier, but I think all 1515 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 4: of this creates what could be the wildest season in 1516 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 4: sports we've ever seen. 1517 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, I think it's incredible. 1518 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I do. 1519 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll give you this schedule. Did you guys 1520 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 2: look at the schedule. It's freaking awesome. 1521 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 3: I have not. 1522 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's awesome. We'll talk about it. Fellas hanging 1523 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 2: out right here Fox Sports Radio. Fellas from the tire 1524 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 2: rack dot com studios. 1525 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 3: Are you ready? 1526 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:56,799 Speaker 2: Beginning Friday, December twentieth, first round game Friday night kicks 1527 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 2: off the college football Playoffs. Then Saturday, a triple header 1528 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 2: for the first round games. Saturday, December twenty first this 1529 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 2: is awesome. Then Tuesday, December thirty, first you have the 1530 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Fiesta Bowl. Is a quarterfinal, all right, and that's already 1531 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 2: from State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Wednesday, July. 1532 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 3: January one. 1533 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:40,600 Speaker 2: Quarterfinal, Chick fil A Peach Bowl Quarterfinal, Rose Bowl Quarterfinal, 1534 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl January ninth, semifinal Thursday night the Capitol One 1535 01:15:53,560 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 2: Orange Bowl. Then Friday, January tenth, twenty twenty five, the 1536 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 2: other semifinal from AT and T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. 1537 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 3: And then that brings us to Monday, January. 1538 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 2: Twentieth, the National Championship for Mercedes Men Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia. 1539 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,560 Speaker 2: That is your expanded college football schedule. 1540 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,839 Speaker 3: Tell me that's not awesome. 1541 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 4: Oh man, it changes the whole calendar when you think 1542 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 4: about it, like the fact that now I find this interesting, 1543 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 4: a triple header of games on December twenty first, where 1544 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,799 Speaker 4: there'll be a Fellas that day, obviously because it's a Saturday, 1545 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 4: but also the league, the NFL, decided to put two. 1546 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 1: NFL games on that day. 1547 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 4: Like just one of the most stunning things to me 1548 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 4: that was sort of lost in the developments of the 1549 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,160 Speaker 4: schedule release for the NFL is that, knowing that they 1550 01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 4: were getting the first ever college football expanded playoff, did 1551 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 4: not stay away from that Saturday. They still put two 1552 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 4: games on Saturday, December twenty, first Houston at Kansas City 1553 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 4: and Pittsburgh at Baltimore. They put two good games on Saturday, 1554 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 4: just to make sure that they remind college football where 1555 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,719 Speaker 4: their place is in society. Like that is a brazen, 1556 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 4: bold move by the NFL. 1557 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 3: Okay, so let me ask you guys, now the eight 1558 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 3: and go. 1559 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 2: Now, you know there's going to be a prime time game, 1560 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 2: so they left the prime time game for college football. 1561 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 2: Usually they do four point thirty and at eight o'clock 1562 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 2: right right, And they did when we're playing at one 1563 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 2: and four thirty. Yeah, one in four thirty. 1564 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 4: So they did sort of standard Sunday timing ish on 1565 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 4: those Saturday games because. 1566 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 2: Usually they do the four thirty and and APR. But 1567 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,560 Speaker 2: I guess that's why they're leaving college football. 1568 01:17:59,240 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 1: For that day. 1569 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 4: I mean, there's they're swinging directly at the first two 1570 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 4: and then they're leaving college football one of them. 1571 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 2: And I just I think you're right about the quality 1572 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 2: of games, Like they're two great games, Like it's going 1573 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 2: to be really good in Kansas City obviously, right and 1574 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Baltimore. 1575 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean, what could be really interesting. 1576 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 4: I mean, they could have put on that Saturday, for example, 1577 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 4: also on that weekend's docket, Giants at Falcons. You know, 1578 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 4: they could have put a game like that in there. 1579 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 4: They could have put Jacksonville at the Raiders, the game 1580 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 4: that probably wouldn't have the same level. 1581 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee at Indye have the same level. But no, now 1582 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 1: they give you. 1583 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 4: Houston and Kansas City and Pittsburgh at Baltimore. So like 1584 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 4: it just it feels like the NFL definitely big. Yes, yeah, 1585 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 4: they big footage up. I find a good way to 1586 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,880 Speaker 4: say that. That being said for me, if I got 1587 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,839 Speaker 4: to make the choice between a meaningful I mean, obviously 1588 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 4: we're gonna watch all of them, because it's what we 1589 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 4: do for a living. I'm gonna watch the Expanded Playoff, right, 1590 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 4: Like the Expanded Playoff is such playoff games always win, 1591 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 4: right in my mind, it's a playoff game always takes 1592 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,600 Speaker 4: preast of it. So the fact that we get this 1593 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 4: Expanded Playoff and those first round games will be at home, 1594 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 4: those are are gonna be Oh, that's gonna be chef's kiss. 1595 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 4: Like imagine just getting some random Michigan you know, or 1596 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 4: or figure about a southern team having to go up there. 1597 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 4: Think about Georgia having to go to Michigan for a 1598 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 4: first round playoff game. 1599 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 3: If we're like, oh my god, it's no falling. 1600 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: Oh you outrageous man, that would be incredible. Figure. 1601 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 3: I know it's your dream, everything I wanted. I've always 1602 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 3: talked about this, Fig. 1603 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 6: I know, well, you know pretty soon the NFL is 1604 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 6: going to start elbowing out the high school kids too. 1605 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 6: Why not play on Friday night. They're gonna do it 1606 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,800 Speaker 6: every single night of the week. It's the I think 1607 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 6: Gargano plan. Yeah, it's football every night. It's grammed. 1608 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:54,680 Speaker 2: I know. 1609 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: I'm in for it. 1610 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 4: Like, look, I'll take it. Like you mentioned, some of 1611 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 4: those semi final games are on a Thursday. Yep, give 1612 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 4: me Thursday night college football if it's a playoff game, 1613 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:03,640 Speaker 4: come on, huh. 1614 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:09,520 Speaker 3: I know. I love the idea of going Thursday Friday. 1615 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 2: So you got meaningful football Thursday Friday at college football playoffs, 1616 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 2: and then you got a football at the NFL weekend. 1617 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 4: God, and then once we expand to eighteen games inevitably 1618 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 4: in the NFL, all of a sudden, you're gonna have 1619 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,560 Speaker 4: this expanded calendar. We're gonna have meaningful football all the 1620 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 4: way into mid February. 1621 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yeah. 1622 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 3: I've always made the point that most of the country 1623 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 3: locked in the winter, so what else is there to do? 1624 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:43,799 Speaker 2: Mmm, you're right, you know I've never understood, like February 1625 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 2: is a horrific month. 1626 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,480 Speaker 3: Why not give the people joy. 1627 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 1: With football and then take us right into March madness. 1628 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 1: Oh the supports calendar, Yes, March. 1629 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 2: You know, February gladness goes to March madness. 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It's like these little towns along 1655 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,879 Speaker 2: the shoreline. 1656 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 3: In New Jersey like a big deal for the people 1657 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 3: in this region. 1658 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 4: That's part of what's beautiful about New England. Like, by 1659 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 4: the way, I really like the entire New England area. 1660 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 4: And one thing that really hit me when I was 1661 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,360 Speaker 4: living in Connecticut full time was how like it almost 1662 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 4: feels like every seasonal business comes to life right around then, right, 1663 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,439 Speaker 4: so all of a sudden, areas that have been sort 1664 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 4: of cold and dark and empty are now all of 1665 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 4: a sudden alive and hopping and seeing you know, families 1666 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 4: walking around and getting ice cream at the random place 1667 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 4: that's only opened a few months a year. That I 1668 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 4: can never figure out economically how they manage. 1669 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 1: It's part of the chump. 1670 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 4: I will say, it's interesting because you're right, I've lived 1671 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 4: all over the country. How different areas of the country 1672 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 4: have different sort of vibes around Memorial Day and then 1673 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,400 Speaker 4: around everything that kicks off after it, Like in Nashville 1674 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 4: it is, which is I think the South and service 1675 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 4: are very you know, they're very joined, right, so any 1676 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,839 Speaker 4: time to honor the people that served as an important 1677 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 4: thing culturally in the South. So there's actually I've always 1678 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 4: felt like a bit of a gravity to Memorial Day 1679 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 4: in a much different way where it's like, I mean, 1680 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 4: you've done a beautiful job of mentioning it, and I 1681 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:50,600 Speaker 4: say it all the time. We get to do what 1682 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 4: we do because people better are stronger and overall more 1683 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 4: amazing than I could ever imagine being fought for our 1684 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 4: freedom right and that is a very serious and real 1685 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,360 Speaker 4: thing that's appreciated. So I think it's always interesting to 1686 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 4: me in the South that there's a sort of a 1687 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,879 Speaker 4: gravity to the way that the Memorial Day is perceived. 1688 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden you're into summer. But 1689 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 4: one difference in let me be an old man for 1690 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 4: a minute. Like when I was a kid, Memorial Day 1691 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,680 Speaker 4: was right around when summer started for school too, and 1692 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,560 Speaker 4: then you're off until after Labor Day. Like so I 1693 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 4: truly had the full summer off now, Like I was 1694 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 4: talking to one of my buddies up in Connecticut last week, 1695 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,920 Speaker 4: his kids aren't even done until like the third week 1696 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 4: in June. 1697 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,679 Speaker 1: So I really wonder. 1698 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I just wonder if because of snow days 1699 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 4: that added a few days this year, but like third 1700 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 4: week in June, they're done and they go back in 1701 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 4: mid August. So it's like, my god, Like I don't know, 1702 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,679 Speaker 4: Like I feel like you almost have to power blast 1703 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 4: that level of fun that you and I were used 1704 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,360 Speaker 4: to getting to spend months having as kids. 1705 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know, things weird and I get to 1706 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 2: figure you out with your school system, there is different 1707 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,439 Speaker 2: it used to be here. I do know that it 1708 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 2: was you didn't go back into well after Labor Day. 1709 01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Now kids starting in Arizona, I know they start in 1710 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, August, which I never understood. 1711 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, it traditionally was like that out here 1712 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 6: as well, after Labor Day. But I'm even aware. So 1713 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,759 Speaker 6: my uh, my cousin is an administrator at a school 1714 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 6: in Vegas. Uh they let out last week. He says, 1715 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:24,760 Speaker 6: they returned to school in July. 1716 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 1: That year round. There must be year round, now, is 1717 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: that what they're doing. 1718 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 6: I'm not not getn't get a chance to talk to 1719 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,599 Speaker 6: him about it, because I when I was in high 1720 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 6: school out here, I was I was year round. So 1721 01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 6: I started my school year actually started in July, but 1722 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 6: I also had a couple of months off in the 1723 01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 6: winter and a couple of months in the spring. It 1724 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 6: was a different type of schedule. I didn't think that. 1725 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 6: And because they let out so early as well, so 1726 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,599 Speaker 6: maybe they are year round. I'm not sure, but that's 1727 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 6: a it's a funky schedule. And then that just even 1728 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,599 Speaker 6: your traditional modes nowadays. As you were talking about, Anthony, 1729 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,759 Speaker 6: you know these kids are going back in August, mid August, 1730 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,799 Speaker 6: that early to mid August. 1731 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:58,080 Speaker 3: At that. 1732 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 6: You you wicked you started July, right, So because the 1733 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 6: school system was overcrowded, they had to find a way 1734 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,000 Speaker 6: to kind of split things up to be able to 1735 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 6: accommodate all of the children. 1736 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,599 Speaker 5: So they had to dig different schedules for different kids. 1737 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, so what was your schedule here? 1738 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 6: You would be off, so I was on for four months, 1739 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:26,720 Speaker 6: off for two so we were in for July, August, September, October. 1740 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 6: I would have the entire month of November and December 1741 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 6: off and then we go back in January, February, March, April, 1742 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 6: and then May and June would basically be our summer 1743 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 6: vacation quota our transition into the next high school year. 1744 01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 5: That's how it work. How did sports work. 1745 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,120 Speaker 6: You could play in sport, you know, if if there 1746 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 6: was a follower winter sport, you would just show up 1747 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 6: for whatever sport that you played. 1748 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:48,719 Speaker 3: That is how it worked. 1749 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,559 Speaker 5: So you wouldn't have classes, but you would you would 1750 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:52,760 Speaker 5: go to play player sport. 1751 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's funny because classes don't start like 1752 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:03,160 Speaker 2: we just got mine. Just got Mi Anthony's summer schedule 1753 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:08,920 Speaker 2: for football, and you know, I mean he's basically they 1754 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 2: go they have a mini camp. Now mind you, Fitzi 1755 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 2: and Figgi. They have a mini lifting starts June tenth, 1756 01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 2: so that's three days a week of lifting right. Then 1757 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:30,639 Speaker 2: the last week of June is their mini camp. Then 1758 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,800 Speaker 2: they're all for fourth July. Then they're back with conditioning 1759 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,080 Speaker 2: and then they do a seven on seventh thing that 1760 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 2: starts three days a week in July. The last week 1761 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,920 Speaker 2: of July they go to four days a week. Then 1762 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 2: training camp officially begins in August where they're five days 1763 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 2: a week. 1764 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,559 Speaker 6: But that's the that's their that's their kids, well scheduled 1765 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 6: and regimented. I mean think about that, man, Like you know, 1766 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,639 Speaker 6: like we didn't have many camps. 1767 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:06,639 Speaker 3: No I was playing. 1768 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,520 Speaker 6: I mean that wasn't We had like summer conditioning practices, 1769 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 6: but they were even they were very loosely organized. You 1770 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 6: have a coach out there, the head coach might be there, 1771 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,840 Speaker 6: he might not like it was never not like this. 1772 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,080 Speaker 6: That's wild, right, I mean that's there. They were like 1773 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 6: you know, and then we're and you know, the coaches 1774 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 6: were cool, like they were like listen, you know you 1775 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 6: got family vacations and everything else. We understand, but like 1776 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 6: because we you know, we feel we feel a little guilty, 1777 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 6: like because it's his freshman year and like he's going 1778 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 6: to miss a couple. 1779 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 3: Of weeks because you know, we're gonna go away, we're 1780 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 3: gonna do some family stuff. 1781 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, can you believe we're actually feeling guilty about 1782 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 2: doing a family vacation because of camp and really of 1783 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 2: OTAs that is. 1784 01:28:56,040 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 4: That's crazy to me because like the summer and look, 1785 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 4: my mind was more regimented because everything I was doing 1786 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,600 Speaker 4: outside of school. But like the summer is supposed to 1787 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 4: be just sort of sort of an opportunity for kids 1788 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,400 Speaker 4: to explore and do different. Like I don't know, like 1789 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 4: maybe I'm altruistic here, but it seems like you know, 1790 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,160 Speaker 4: you sleep in and you mess around with your friends 1791 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 4: and you just have a good. 1792 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 1: Time, right, Like they're just summer right, Like yeah, yeah. 1793 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 13: There's there's movies that were written, stories and books, novels 1794 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,800 Speaker 13: written about summer, and now we're like do it away 1795 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 13: with summer. 1796 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's such an interesting I mean, I understand 1797 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 4: the year round concept. Two of you know, four on 1798 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,640 Speaker 4: two off can make a lot of things easier in 1799 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 4: life for some parents, and and it makes uh, you know, 1800 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,640 Speaker 4: it makes life easier for some of the kids in 1801 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:47,360 Speaker 4: their studies. 1802 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,479 Speaker 1: I guess that show that the learning is better that way, 1803 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 1: But I don't. 1804 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 4: Know, give me, give me three solid months of like 1805 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna sit around and do nothing, and especially 1806 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 4: like in that heat and everything, I just I would 1807 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 4: much prefer that one well, good thing. 1808 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't have kids, but I would much prefer that. 1809 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, vegue if you think about Vegas in August, I'm. 1810 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 5: Rather not sweating already thinking about. 1811 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 2: It, right like, and you know, I mean it's hard 1812 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 2: to go in that kind of heat. It's hard, it's 1813 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:18,759 Speaker 2: hard to concentraight school. 1814 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just start thinking about just the general 1815 01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,680 Speaker 4: routine for kids. I don't know, there's something about the 1816 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,720 Speaker 4: knowing that you can go, Like what do you do 1817 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,840 Speaker 4: if summer camp was part of your life too? 1818 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Like summer camp seemed to be. 1819 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,880 Speaker 4: I don't know how you fit that in with everybody 1820 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 4: having different different schedules. 1821 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,519 Speaker 6: Oh fits it was because I remember leaving eighth grade 1822 01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 6: going into ninth I believe we let out on like 1823 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,280 Speaker 6: June fifteenth or sixteenth or something like that, maybe even 1824 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 6: a little bit later. And my first day of high 1825 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 6: school was on July fifth, so I basically my summer 1826 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 6: of that year. 1827 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,320 Speaker 5: It was about ten ten to. 1828 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,600 Speaker 6: Twelve days if I remember correctly, and a lot of 1829 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,200 Speaker 6: my friends who are going to different school and the 1830 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 6: one I went to talking about all the stuff they 1831 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 6: were doing the summer and all these places they were going. 1832 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,800 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, I'm going right back to school. Oh 1833 01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 5: it's brutal. Yeah, and the end in the heat of summer, 1834 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,120 Speaker 5: by the way, July, August, July all around. 1835 01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 3: Like the day after July for it long. It's unbelievable 1836 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:18,160 Speaker 3: hauling books. 1837 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 6: You know, we didn't have mac books and iPads and 1838 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 6: all that stuff the kids have nowadays. You know, you're 1839 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 6: carrying the big the big history book and the big 1840 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 6: English book and all the binders with all the dividers. 1841 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a hard knock life. 1842 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's hard. 1843 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out how parents afford 1844 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Like, I mean, we didn't have much. 1845 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 4: So just like the need for a t I eighty 1846 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,599 Speaker 4: one calculator was like that said, like that wasn't gonna happen. 1847 01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,679 Speaker 3: That's a great you know, that's a great one. 1848 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,720 Speaker 4: There's no like when I went to my parents, I 1849 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,280 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, for calculus, I needed T I eighty one. 1850 01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 4: My mom was like, well then you need to find 1851 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 4: a different math class and we can't afford it. Like 1852 01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 4: and it's like kids coming in and just being like 1853 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 4: all right, well I need an iPad and I'm gonna need. 1854 01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 1: A laptop and I'm like, oh my god, I don't 1855 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,040 Speaker 1: even know how parents do it. I don't. 1856 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 3: Well. 1857 01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 6: The good thing a lot of times for the public schools, 1858 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 6: they will they'll provide those for you. So now, because 1859 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,880 Speaker 6: I even remember even like a lot of the graphic 1860 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 6: calculators and things like that, when I was in high school, 1861 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,000 Speaker 6: they you know what, just passed them down from year 1862 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:20,320 Speaker 6: to year. 1863 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,439 Speaker 5: Now some of them may like number that popped off 1864 01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 5: that didn't work, you know. 1865 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:27,599 Speaker 1: And then like we had to buy them. 1866 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,680 Speaker 4: And then my mom's rule always that I grew up 1867 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 4: on was if you can't afford to replace it, you 1868 01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:33,640 Speaker 4: should never borrow it. 1869 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:34,840 Speaker 1: So like when my. 1870 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,720 Speaker 4: Friends, you know, in high school throw me the keys 1871 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 4: and be like, hey man, you can drive my car, 1872 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, hell, no, I can't. No, I can't buy 1873 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,519 Speaker 4: this thing. So nope, I cannot borrow your car. That 1874 01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,519 Speaker 4: is just I was raised on that rule. If you 1875 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 4: can't afford to replace it, don't borrow it. So somebody 1876 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:48,800 Speaker 4: would hand me an iPad as a kid, and I'd 1877 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,960 Speaker 4: be like, Nope, can't afford one of these. 1878 01:32:51,760 --> 01:33:00,280 Speaker 3: Get back. Oh man, that's wild, that's wild. Funny. 1879 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,439 Speaker 2: We're you know, talking about the school and summer, Like, 1880 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:10,639 Speaker 2: do you think that we are like society is all 1881 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 2: about productivity, which is great, right, but do you think 1882 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,880 Speaker 2: that we're too much like that? 1883 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 3: Like Europe? 1884 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 2: You know, like I know in Italy they're they're off 1885 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 2: the entire month of August, like nobody works. Like if 1886 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:30,080 Speaker 2: you have any kind of job other than you know, 1887 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 2: restaurants or cater your hotels, catering to tourists, you're off. 1888 01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 2: Like the whole country basically's off. And then they and 1889 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,640 Speaker 2: they're not you know, they have them. It's like that 1890 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,879 Speaker 2: for a lot of European countries. 1891 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 4: Do you we can't even get people here to stay 1892 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,600 Speaker 4: away from the stores on Thanksgiving data like. 1893 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 1: They think about that you just mentioned a month off. 1894 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,919 Speaker 4: You know how many Karen's out there would be complaining 1895 01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 4: about the fact that they can't get what they want 1896 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,639 Speaker 4: that they're like that would just be such a loud 1897 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 4: no offense to any like really nice caroens out there, 1898 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 4: But that would be. 1899 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 1: Such a such a loud yell of good. 1900 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 4: But I want to be able to go like it's 1901 01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,640 Speaker 4: just man, I cannot imagine if we went to as 1902 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,280 Speaker 4: a country and said, hey, the first reaction if we 1903 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:19,920 Speaker 4: went to everybody and said we're taking the whole month 1904 01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 4: of August office at the United States of America. 1905 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,840 Speaker 1: People will be like hooray and then turn around and 1906 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 1: be like, but. 1907 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:29,880 Speaker 4: That means everybody, which means unless it's absolutely essential, you 1908 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 4: cannot get it. 1909 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,559 Speaker 1: People would start just freaking out. They would freak out. 1910 01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,519 Speaker 1: It's like, can't write my pedicure today? Like what am 1911 01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,639 Speaker 1: I doing? You know, it's like that that's where we live. 1912 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I will say, you know, my my wife 1913 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 6: who's a teacher, and she talks about how these kids 1914 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 6: are so overly regimented, and she believes that's why they 1915 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,120 Speaker 6: are so anxious now because she was so talk to 1916 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 6: one student, this, all right, well, after I do homework, 1917 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 6: then I have soccer practice, then I have study group, 1918 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,640 Speaker 6: then I have this practice, then I have that. 1919 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:57,719 Speaker 5: This is what are you doing for fun this weekend? 1920 01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,280 Speaker 6: It's like, well, I have a baseball league that I'm 1921 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 6: playing in, just like, I mean, I'm sure that's fun 1922 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,680 Speaker 6: for you, but like, do you have anything that's like 1923 01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,400 Speaker 6: unscheduled where you can just do what you want? 1924 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 5: And they were like, no, not really, it's just somebody 1925 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,280 Speaker 5: sad about that. It really is free time. Is just 1926 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:14,760 Speaker 5: not a thing anymore for a lot of people. 1927 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:19,280 Speaker 6: It's about the overproductive, overproductive such situation that it really 1928 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,720 Speaker 6: bears itself out, and I do think ultimately it does 1929 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,520 Speaker 6: end up having a cost, a mental cost. 1930 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you burn out right, you don't allow certain things, 1931 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:36,080 Speaker 2: you don't get to enjoy life. You know that that 1932 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,560 Speaker 2: whole idea of stop and smell the roads is that 1933 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:42,080 Speaker 2: old saying, but it's truly the you know, euro opinions. 1934 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 1: Man. 1935 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,559 Speaker 3: You know, it's to live to work, work to live. 1936 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 6: Thing right, right, Entire cities, entire towns shut down that 1937 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 6: you mentioned for an entire month, goes away. 1938 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, a few years ago. 1939 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, Actually, the reason why we didn't go is because 1940 01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,360 Speaker 6: my wife went previously in August and she was like, oh, 1941 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,720 Speaker 6: there's nobody here. All these businesses, all these restaurants we 1942 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 6: want to go to. Everybody's off. So we went earlier 1943 01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,120 Speaker 6: in the summer or late spring for that reason. 1944 01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, there's a there is a 1945 01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 3: there's an enjoyment of life. 1946 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,120 Speaker 2: That's that I think. And there's a simplicity too. Now 1947 01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,920 Speaker 2: you know they're not living in you know, they live 1948 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:27,840 Speaker 2: in pretty modest you know, right, quarters and they're you know, 1949 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 2: they're they're always about the outside. And you know a 1950 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,240 Speaker 2: lot of those you know, Western European countries. 1951 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,840 Speaker 6: A communal, you know, big dinners and talking and all 1952 01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,800 Speaker 6: that stuff. Walking everywhere. Yeah, I mean that that and 1953 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 6: we're just go go go jumping a car, Yeah, grabbing 1954 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 6: a car. 1955 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,960 Speaker 5: Grab something from seven to eleven and can go. 1956 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, not like I feel this in my 1957 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,880 Speaker 4: bones right now because as I you know, we all 1958 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,840 Speaker 4: know that I'm on this little fitness journey right now. 1959 01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,839 Speaker 4: But one thing that they're making me do is instead 1960 01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,880 Speaker 4: of running that I was doing so hard, I have 1961 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 4: to do ten thousand steps a day every day, and 1962 01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 4: that requires ten thousand leisurely steps was what I was 1963 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:12,280 Speaker 4: instructed to do, which requires taking very long walks. Right, So, 1964 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,960 Speaker 4: like it's just so three times a day, I just 1965 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,400 Speaker 4: shut everything off and I go on this walk and 1966 01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 4: it's amazing how just being. 1967 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 1: Out walking around. 1968 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:21,840 Speaker 4: I just take Annabelle on a walk and you know, 1969 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,600 Speaker 4: we come back and it's like, man, I do like, 1970 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,920 Speaker 4: it's amazing how just slowing down for a minute gives 1971 01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:28,639 Speaker 4: me perspective. 1972 01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:29,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even know. 1973 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 4: It's funny, Like I'm doing this walk, but also as 1974 01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 4: a result of doing the walks instead of running on 1975 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 4: a treadmill inside, I'm outside, I'm getting sun and I'm 1976 01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,320 Speaker 4: just like the stop and smell the roses sort of moment. 1977 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:43,719 Speaker 1: I have found more. 1978 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 4: Peace in the last two weeks simply because of the walk, 1979 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 4: because I never slow life down like I just I 1980 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,479 Speaker 4: don't think we know as a society how to slow lifetime. 1981 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's a shame it too, because 1982 01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,000 Speaker 2: yesterday a lot of the financial sectors in the financial sector, 1983 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 2: there a lot of companies just and that everybody has 1984 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,240 Speaker 2: to go back to uh work to. 1985 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,400 Speaker 5: The off off of a out of remote work is 1986 01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,479 Speaker 5: out phased out. 1987 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's a mistake. I think it's 1988 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 2: a mistake. I think, first of all, I think people 1989 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:20,160 Speaker 2: are more productive at home. Most people, I think are 1990 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,840 Speaker 2: more productive that there's that you're there, You're you're constantly 1991 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 2: working to get your work done. And and I think 1992 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,559 Speaker 2: it's because of commercial real estate. And it's like they 1993 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,000 Speaker 2: have all this money invested in these in these buildings 1994 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:39,240 Speaker 2: downtown or whatever you're you know, these these industrial parks 1995 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,600 Speaker 2: and office space. They're they're spend all that money on 1996 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 2: office space and that's the problem. It's shame though, because 1997 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,599 Speaker 2: I think it's better. You know, the quality of life 1998 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 2: was better, even if you're working at home, as long 1999 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 2: as you get your work done. I don't understand the problem. 2000 01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 2: Never understood that. 2001 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, there's this part of me 2002 01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,840 Speaker 4: that wonders if events we become a task based society 2003 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,599 Speaker 4: rather than an hourly based society. These are the things 2004 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 4: you must get done this week instead of these are 2005 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 4: the hours you must. 2006 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,920 Speaker 3: Which makes a lot more sense, doesn't it? 2007 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah to me? Like, I mean, I don't care what 2008 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:14,600 Speaker 1: you do. 2009 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:15,639 Speaker 3: I don't listen. 2010 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 2: Like, if you're in sales, go get me, you know whatever, 2011 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 2: three accounts a week or whatever, you know, whatever your 2012 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,639 Speaker 2: quota is. I don't care what you do the rest 2013 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,960 Speaker 2: of your day, Like you got to go, get to 2014 01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,439 Speaker 2: take your dog to get groomed or whatever you gotta do. 2015 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 2: Go do what you gotta do, take your kids whatever. 2016 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:35,200 Speaker 2: I don't care. 2017 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 3: As long as you get your work done, right, you know, 2018 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:40,880 Speaker 3: that's what it matters, right, Like, are you? 2019 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:41,240 Speaker 7: Like? 2020 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 2: I think the task based is way more It's way better. 2021 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:49,080 Speaker 2: It makes just way more sense. As long as you 2022 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,920 Speaker 2: get your work done and you're delivering. Then what do 2023 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,519 Speaker 2: I care about what somebody's doing during the day, Like, 2024 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,559 Speaker 2: why is it said that they have to be at 2025 01:39:58,640 --> 01:39:59,120 Speaker 2: a spot? 2026 01:39:59,439 --> 01:39:59,600 Speaker 8: You know? 2027 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 3: Eight to five? 2028 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,880 Speaker 1: Agreed anyway, I concur. 2029 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,559 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's take a quick t o now 2030 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,439 Speaker 2: that we solve life's issues and uh, let's go into 2031 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 2: a little NFL wind total action. 2032 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:15,760 Speaker 3: All right. 2033 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,960 Speaker 2: The updated wind totals are out, and I want to 2034 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,800 Speaker 2: go through the teams with you guys, and you're gonna 2035 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,200 Speaker 2: tell me whether you're gonna bet over or under? All right, 2036 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 2: where the fella is hanging right here? 2037 01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:36,880 Speaker 3: On Memorial Day weekend on Fox Sports Radio, Fellas. 2038 01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:43,560 Speaker 2: Jason fitz Kevin figures, I'm Anthony gargan By from the 2039 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:50,120 Speaker 2: tireat dot com Studios. All right, because we can't get 2040 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,320 Speaker 2: enough of our football, and we've been all over the 2041 01:40:54,360 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 2: place today from the NBA to college sports, to the 2042 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,679 Speaker 2: workplace in society and beyond. 2043 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,960 Speaker 3: Uh, let's get some football up here, and. 2044 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna do win totals, all right, the wind totals 2045 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 2: for the NFL. Good excuse for us to talk about 2046 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 2: each team and go over their win totals, all right, Uh, 2047 01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 2: Ian Spider, make sure you write these down and we'll 2048 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:35,880 Speaker 2: see who's right, because Memorial Memorial Day weekend will turn 2049 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:39,000 Speaker 2: into Labor Day weekend and it will be on. So 2050 01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,800 Speaker 2: I have a little contest. By the way, if I 2051 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,280 Speaker 2: say Spider, does anybody know the reference? 2052 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 3: Nope? Do you figure Spider? Spider Spider? 2053 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:53,960 Speaker 6: No? No. 2054 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,920 Speaker 3: The only person that knows the reference it's Mighty Mark, right, 2055 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 3: Might Mark. 2056 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:04,439 Speaker 5: That's so sad. Nobody knows that. 2057 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,640 Speaker 3: Everybody knows that. I had no idea. Who do you 2058 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 3: call me? You're Spider, Spider, Spider, Go get me a drink, Spider. 2059 01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:20,080 Speaker 4: It's in the new, the New James Cameron Avatar movie, 2060 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,040 Speaker 4: the sequel, there's a character named Spider. 2061 01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:23,479 Speaker 5: I was like, there's no way it's that. 2062 01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:33,000 Speaker 3: The movie Good Fellas Spider. They shot Spider in the 2063 01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,680 Speaker 3: foot and then do you remember that? 2064 01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 1: No? I vaguely remember. Look I haven't seen Good Fellas 2065 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,280 Speaker 1: and probably yeah. 2066 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:46,720 Speaker 5: I've seen it since early twenties, maybe all the time. No, 2067 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 5: we we you know, where's my drink? 2068 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:53,960 Speaker 3: My only baby? 2069 01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:54,120 Speaker 1: No? 2070 01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,400 Speaker 3: My line? Spider? Uh, here we go. 2071 01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 11: So anyway, let's before we eating, let's go with it. 2072 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 11: Let's begin with Baltimore. Right now, Baltimore, the Ravens eleven 2073 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:20,639 Speaker 11: and alf and you get plus juice if you take 2074 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:21,360 Speaker 11: the over. 2075 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 1: Eleven. 2076 01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:24,360 Speaker 3: See, I'll start with you. 2077 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:26,599 Speaker 1: That's a beefy number. 2078 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,040 Speaker 4: And look at their well too, Like when you look 2079 01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:30,760 Speaker 4: at the way their schedule plays up, I just pulled 2080 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,760 Speaker 4: it up here. They open at Kansas City, then they 2081 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,640 Speaker 4: get the juggernaut known as the Las Vegas Raiders, and 2082 01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,679 Speaker 4: then they have to go to Dallas, then the Bills, 2083 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 4: then the Bengals. That's their first five games. Like, I 2084 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,000 Speaker 4: think a slow start is not out of the question 2085 01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 4: for the Ravens, even though I think the Ravens are 2086 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,639 Speaker 4: going to be very good. That's just a brutal way 2087 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,599 Speaker 4: to start the year. Eleven and a half just feels 2088 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,080 Speaker 4: too rich for my blood man. Ten eleven wins is 2089 01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 4: tough to do in this league. Twelve is really hard. 2090 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 4: I'm only going to find five losses for them to 2091 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 4: be on the I think I go under on that. 2092 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,040 Speaker 4: I feel like I gotta go under on that. I'm 2093 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,040 Speaker 4: looking at the schedule now, but I'll say Figgy somewhat 2094 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 4: confidently under on eleven. 2095 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:13,640 Speaker 1: And a half. I will too. 2096 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,240 Speaker 6: That's just really hard to predict in a division that tough. Now, 2097 01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 6: granted it was tough. Last year. Three of the four 2098 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,840 Speaker 6: teams won double digit games. It's just hard for me 2099 01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,960 Speaker 6: to predict that they would go over eleven and a half. 2100 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 6: That's a steep number for me. They lost a lot 2101 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,160 Speaker 6: in free agency too, that's so. 2102 01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,240 Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow's back for Cincinnati, so the Bengos are 2103 01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:32,880 Speaker 1: going to be even better, all. 2104 01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,719 Speaker 2: Right, So we all agree, Spider under for the Ravens 2105 01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:43,280 Speaker 2: Arizona six and a half. You gotta lay one forty 2106 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,479 Speaker 2: to take the over, FITZI. 2107 01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,679 Speaker 4: Six and a half is that's a that's a lower 2108 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,599 Speaker 4: number than I expected for Arizona. They were plucky last year. 2109 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,240 Speaker 4: But again, then you pull up their schedule. I'm glad 2110 01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,680 Speaker 4: I'm pulling this up as we do this, because you 2111 01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 4: want to talk about another juggernaut. Their first few at 2112 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:04,800 Speaker 4: Buffalo than the Rams, then the Lions Commanders, then at 2113 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,639 Speaker 4: San Francisco, like that's not an easy then at green 2114 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,080 Speaker 4: Bay none of that. They got the Charges, they got 2115 01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,360 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. That's a tough schedule. I'll actually but six 2116 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,120 Speaker 4: and a half, so I'll take the under, but I 2117 01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,760 Speaker 4: don't love that. I don't feel good about it. 2118 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,000 Speaker 3: So you go under. 2119 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:26,280 Speaker 6: Figure Yeah, I think I had to go with the 2120 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 6: under without as well. To be honest with you, I'm 2121 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 6: feeling the under too. 2122 01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:32,600 Speaker 3: It's funny we are unanimous. 2123 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 2: We all have the under because I look at them 2124 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,920 Speaker 2: and FITZI correctly points out their tough schedule. And the 2125 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:44,040 Speaker 2: other thing, too is I look at them, and you 2126 01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:49,080 Speaker 2: know they were plucky. They didn't play anybody lucky. I 2127 01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,559 Speaker 2: don't believe in them same. I just don't believe in them. 2128 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can easily see them in the top three 2129 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:56,400 Speaker 5: in the draft again this coming year. To be honest 2130 01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,439 Speaker 5: with you, you too, you too? 2131 01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:03,800 Speaker 4: That makes you late late season Arizona at Carolina game. 2132 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,800 Speaker 4: That's gonna test the that's gonna test the fandom. But 2133 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,760 Speaker 4: it's at least a Sunday game, not a Thursday game. 2134 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,800 Speaker 3: For I was gonna ask you, is it an Island game? 2135 01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:21,240 Speaker 2: It's God forbid Atlanta nine and a half for the Falcons. 2136 01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,479 Speaker 4: Nine and a half. I'm I'm high on the Falcons. 2137 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:31,040 Speaker 4: I'm very high on the Falcons. I won't in my mind, 2138 01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,280 Speaker 4: I don't love any of the quarterbacks that are, you know, 2139 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 4: four hundred and thirty two years old coming off of 2140 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:36,839 Speaker 4: Achilles injuries. 2141 01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:38,120 Speaker 1: So that means the Jets also. 2142 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,360 Speaker 4: But I think the Falcons coaching was so bad last 2143 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 4: year it has to be better this year. 2144 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:45,920 Speaker 1: But what was the number again, nine and a half? 2145 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:47,240 Speaker 3: Nine and a half? 2146 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: Goly, you gotta get me to ten wins to win 2147 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:51,880 Speaker 1: that bet. I don't know. 2148 01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:56,000 Speaker 4: Again, looking at their schedule, they had Pittsburgh Philly in 2149 01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,439 Speaker 4: Kansas City to open the season, so that's. 2150 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,799 Speaker 1: That's a tough way to start. They have the Cowboys 2151 01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:02,559 Speaker 1: later in the year. 2152 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,280 Speaker 4: They also have to go to Las Vegas to take 2153 01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,200 Speaker 4: on the Jugger not known as the I'm going to 2154 01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,760 Speaker 4: keep doing that. I'll take the over on nine and 2155 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:11,360 Speaker 4: a half. I'll take the over on nine. I think 2156 01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,640 Speaker 4: the division is trash. I think the rest of the 2157 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,720 Speaker 4: teams in that division are going to be bad, and 2158 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,080 Speaker 4: I think Atlanta can can feast on some bad football teams. 2159 01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:21,599 Speaker 4: And I think a competent head coach will use their 2160 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:24,080 Speaker 4: weapons better. That is a direct dig if I'm not 2161 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,680 Speaker 4: being clear enough, I think Arthur Smith was malpractice at 2162 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:28,680 Speaker 4: head coach last year. 2163 01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,040 Speaker 1: So I think I think Atlanta takes a step forward 2164 01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:32,120 Speaker 1: nine and a half. I'll take the over. 2165 01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 6: Arthur Smith probably a guy who's more equipped to be 2166 01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:35,799 Speaker 6: an offensive coordinator. 2167 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 5: But Atlanta, I. 2168 01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:40,560 Speaker 3: Think I'll go over to. 2169 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,040 Speaker 6: You know, you have competence at the quarterback position in 2170 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,280 Speaker 6: the head coaching head coaching spot. I still don't like 2171 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 6: their defense, but I think they can score enough points 2172 01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:48,760 Speaker 6: to give themselves a chance to be able to win 2173 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:49,280 Speaker 6: enough games. 2174 01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:50,880 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'll take the over. 2175 01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:57,040 Speaker 2: Let's make it unanimous. And here's why mentioned the division, 2176 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:01,280 Speaker 2: So I agree. I'm in love with that vision. And 2177 01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:05,600 Speaker 2: then look, they got skill people. Man, they have their offense, 2178 01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,760 Speaker 2: like you just said, FIG's legit. So I'll take the 2179 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,920 Speaker 2: over as well. Give me nine and a half on 2180 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:19,519 Speaker 2: the Falcons Buffalo ten and a half. Where are we 2181 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:20,439 Speaker 2: going here? 2182 01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 1: Ten and a half is beefy. 2183 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,799 Speaker 4: Also, by the way, there's a slot machine in Vegas 2184 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,040 Speaker 4: that has buffaloes on it, and the thing every. 2185 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,200 Speaker 1: Time you walk by it just goro is buffalo. So 2186 01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,680 Speaker 1: when you say that, that's all I can think of. 2187 01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:37,680 Speaker 4: Ten and a half that their division is going to 2188 01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,479 Speaker 4: be good this year. Although I think the Jets are 2189 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 4: gonna be bad, I think the rest of the division 2190 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,640 Speaker 4: is going to be very good. Looking at some of 2191 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,400 Speaker 4: their schedule. They obviously get the Ravens, but they have 2192 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,920 Speaker 4: I mean they have the Titans, they have the Seahawks, 2193 01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,479 Speaker 4: they have the Colts, like they've got winnable games. I'll 2194 01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:53,439 Speaker 4: take the over on ten. 2195 01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:53,639 Speaker 1: And a half. 2196 01:48:54,560 --> 01:49:01,880 Speaker 6: You got the over all, right, FIGG, I'm taking the under. 2197 01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 6: I'm taking the under. Lost a lot this offseason, so 2198 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 6: that mean they won't make the playoffs. But I'm taking 2199 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 6: the under. So I got it under too. And you 2200 01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,800 Speaker 6: make a good point, Fitsy about the schedule, but you 2201 01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:17,679 Speaker 6: know they suffer. 2202 01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,160 Speaker 3: I told what you're going to do on the outside, Yeah. 2203 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:21,639 Speaker 5: Who's your number ones? 2204 01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,360 Speaker 4: So I keep going back to the internal belief in 2205 01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,599 Speaker 4: This is something Damien Harris told me when we work 2206 01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,680 Speaker 4: together for Yahoo for the NFL Draft that internally they 2207 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 4: believe that Josh Allen can account for forty touchdowns no 2208 01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 4: matter who his wide receivers are. So they don't think 2209 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 4: that there's a gain one way or the other to 2210 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,400 Speaker 4: having a great wide receiver on the outside or not 2211 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,519 Speaker 4: having a great wide receiver. Right like, they believe he'll 2212 01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,000 Speaker 4: account for forty whether he has Stefan Diggs or whether 2213 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,479 Speaker 4: he doesn't have Steffan Diggs. And I'm not sure they're 2214 01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,559 Speaker 4: one hundred percent wrong. I think they're just asking him 2215 01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,680 Speaker 4: to be superhero superhuman this year. 2216 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:54,720 Speaker 1: I think he can be. 2217 01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,519 Speaker 4: So that's a but I see your point on it totally. 2218 01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,600 Speaker 4: I think the wide receiver room is a question. I 2219 01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,599 Speaker 4: like key On Coleman a lot. He ran slow, That's 2220 01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,160 Speaker 4: why he went where he went in the draft. I 2221 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,120 Speaker 4: like key On Coleman a lot, but he's not going 2222 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:07,880 Speaker 4: to come in and replaced Digs year one. 2223 01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 1: Right, we all know that. So I see where you're 2224 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:11,439 Speaker 1: coming from. But I'll see. 2225 01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,519 Speaker 3: Dude, you know, is there a great playmakers on that 2226 01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 3: side of the ball. 2227 01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:22,360 Speaker 1: No, No, they're just no. You're right, you're one hundred 2228 01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:23,040 Speaker 1: pc right about that. 2229 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,160 Speaker 5: I mean you lost your two starting safeties who are 2230 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,120 Speaker 5: good players. I mean you lost more than you gained 2231 01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,000 Speaker 5: on defense this offseason. Lost Trey White too. 2232 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2233 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 2: I mean I'm a big Sean mcdermotth fan. I love 2234 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:39,679 Speaker 2: the coach, but I think he's a really good defensive coach. 2235 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:41,680 Speaker 2: But I just don't think they have it. I think 2236 01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:42,600 Speaker 2: their roster is. 2237 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:45,040 Speaker 5: Find right. 2238 01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:46,960 Speaker 3: That's why I like you have. 2239 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,280 Speaker 6: I think you have an exceptional a quarterback who can 2240 01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:52,600 Speaker 6: play exceptional at times, surrounded by a bunch of not 2241 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,439 Speaker 6: just a bunch of average a bunch of blah. 2242 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:59,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's never good. 2243 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:04,519 Speaker 5: I can bet a term, you know, uh Caroline four 2244 01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:06,120 Speaker 5: half speak. 2245 01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:11,679 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's bobbing emoji. 2246 01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,240 Speaker 4: There is not a single team in the NFL this 2247 01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:18,640 Speaker 4: year that don't look at the schedule right now and 2248 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,040 Speaker 4: see Caroline and don't think, well, that's a win. 2249 01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,240 Speaker 1: Like I understand that. 2250 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,519 Speaker 4: Like that being said, I think Bryce Shunk is better 2251 01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,920 Speaker 4: than he showed last year. They've spent a lot of 2252 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,639 Speaker 4: money to get better. Four and a half is such 2253 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:37,080 Speaker 4: a low number. But I'm taking the under, not taking 2254 01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,560 Speaker 4: the under just until I see otherwise. I'm taking the 2255 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,519 Speaker 4: other day. It's last year was not just about Bryce, 2256 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,360 Speaker 4: it was about everything and I loved it THEA. 2257 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,040 Speaker 1: Now you can come in and turn it around, but 2258 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,200 Speaker 1: they just so many holes on that roster, and. 2259 01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:50,760 Speaker 6: I still don't feel like they did a whole lot 2260 01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,120 Speaker 6: to try to turn it around. I mean, rarely can 2261 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,000 Speaker 6: you do that in one offseason. So what's going to change. 2262 01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:57,960 Speaker 6: I'm taking the under two. 2263 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:02,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, I look at that team just they're dirt, bad, 2264 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,160 Speaker 2: bad squad, all right. 2265 01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:06,639 Speaker 3: I like this next team. 2266 01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:08,479 Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see where you guys are because 2267 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:14,519 Speaker 2: this is one of my favorite overs the Bears eight 2268 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:15,600 Speaker 2: and a half. 2269 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:19,080 Speaker 4: Hammering over over over over the Bears going to the 2270 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,320 Speaker 4: playoffs this year. I got the Bears in the playoffs, 2271 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,080 Speaker 4: and look, not only the Bears going to playoffs. I 2272 01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:27,080 Speaker 4: think they're gonna have a hot start. I mean the 2273 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,400 Speaker 4: beginning of their schedule. They get the Titans, and the 2274 01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 4: Titans is going to be a little difficult at the 2275 01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,120 Speaker 4: beginning of the year. Brian Callahan the new head coach, 2276 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,640 Speaker 4: so there's a little bit of unpredictability. But they get 2277 01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 4: the Titans, then a tough one at the Texans, then 2278 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,800 Speaker 4: the Colts, the Rams, the Panthers, the Jags who were 2279 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,000 Speaker 4: unsure of and the Commanders. 2280 01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:45,479 Speaker 1: The Cardinals like they have a run there. 2281 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,439 Speaker 4: The Patriots they could hit midway through the season as 2282 01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:49,519 Speaker 4: stacked up a few wins. 2283 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,600 Speaker 1: I think they feel like a nine win team to me. 2284 01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,439 Speaker 4: So you know, obviously Vegas is making me make a 2285 01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 4: difficult decision, but I get see them winning nine or ten. 2286 01:52:58,320 --> 01:52:59,439 Speaker 1: I think they're going to the playoffs. 2287 01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, fit figgy. 2288 01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,800 Speaker 6: Obviously, all can you know, consider how uh how Caleb 2289 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 6: Williams plays, so you know that it's all going to 2290 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:11,640 Speaker 6: fall on his shoulders. But this is a team that 2291 01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:14,000 Speaker 6: won seven games last year and Justin Fields couldn't complete. 2292 01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:14,360 Speaker 5: A four pass. 2293 01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,679 Speaker 6: So Minnesota's going to take a step backwards. So yeah, 2294 01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,519 Speaker 6: I can. It's a tough one for me, but i'll i'll, 2295 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,080 Speaker 6: I'll lean to over it is. So here's why I 2296 01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:31,960 Speaker 6: love it. Some reasons why said two. But I mean 2297 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,000 Speaker 6: they're just killed about what they shround. 2298 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all the things in the world. 2299 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:42,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're making it easy for him and defensively. 2300 01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,040 Speaker 3: Like I like their front man. 2301 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like her. 2302 01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 3: I like that squad. I do I fit. They got talent. 2303 01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,040 Speaker 6: I definitely have talent. There's an element of for whatever reason, 2304 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,320 Speaker 6: I have to see it first. But look, I'm taking 2305 01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:56,600 Speaker 6: the over, just begrudgingly. 2306 01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting. 2307 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,640 Speaker 4: You know who should be mad as Roman because the 2308 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,320 Speaker 4: only way he can win Rookie of the Year is 2309 01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:05,040 Speaker 4: if Caleb Williams throws him the ball, and that means 2310 01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams would win Rookie of the Year. Rome's you know, 2311 01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,559 Speaker 4: once that little extra kick in his contract. I feel 2312 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:11,120 Speaker 4: bad for Rome. 2313 01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, he wants those paid many Eric Decker lateral passes 2314 01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:15,880 Speaker 6: and I'll just catch him one. 2315 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah Decker, I like it. I like it, all right, 2316 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,400 Speaker 2: they're gonna take quicktio. All right, we'll come right back. 2317 01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:30,840 Speaker 2: We've got NFL win totals. It's walking summer, a whole 2318 01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:35,360 Speaker 2: big thing with the fellas right here, Fox Sports Radio, 2319 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:41,919 Speaker 2: Welcome back, fellas. 2320 01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:49,360 Speaker 3: You both big grill guys. Now, I know fits of 2321 01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,840 Speaker 3: your spartan. 2322 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm about to microwave some egg whites. Does 2323 01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:55,640 Speaker 1: that count? 2324 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,800 Speaker 4: Like microwaves some meg whites and to eat some eat 2325 01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 4: some porridge based But you know it's fine. 2326 01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 1: It's fine. 2327 01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:02,160 Speaker 11: I do. 2328 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,000 Speaker 1: I do love a good grill. But you know that's fine. 2329 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2330 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,480 Speaker 4: Nothing better than egg whites, two pieces of turkey, bacon, 2331 01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:09,320 Speaker 4: and some pordge with. 2332 01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:10,480 Speaker 1: Some strawberries, isn't it? 2333 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,520 Speaker 4: Oh man, we're really cream of rice. It's cream of 2334 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,960 Speaker 4: rice that then gets put together with protein powder. It's 2335 01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,720 Speaker 4: it's it's that's why I say porridge. It sounds less 2336 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,960 Speaker 4: disgusting that way, alarmingly. 2337 01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:24,160 Speaker 1: To you. 2338 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can eat grilled chicken, right. 2339 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,080 Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty grams of chicken is a part 2340 01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,320 Speaker 4: of my uh, part of my dinner and then part 2341 01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,880 Speaker 4: of my my mid day. 2342 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred and fifty grams of chicken twice. 2343 01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:41,440 Speaker 2: A day, one hundred and fifty crams of I assume 2344 01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,160 Speaker 2: it's grilled right baked. 2345 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,640 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I like you weigh it before, but yeah, 2346 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 4: then you grill it or you can air fry it 2347 01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,080 Speaker 4: either way. But yeah, like basically it works out to, 2348 01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:53,480 Speaker 4: you know, two thirds of a normal sized chicken breast 2349 01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:54,120 Speaker 4: twice a day. 2350 01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:57,440 Speaker 3: Wow, fake, my man. 2351 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling we're gonna hit fall and I'm just 2352 01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna walk around with no shirt on and everything everything, 2353 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,160 Speaker 4: everything I do in football season, I'm just gonna be like, 2354 01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:12,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. My abs would like to have a word, 2355 01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 4: and then they're like, I'm gonna be able to get 2356 01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:14,880 Speaker 4: him to move. 2357 01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a whole thing. It's gonna be a 2358 01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:16,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. 2359 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,040 Speaker 3: So what do you do with let's go to a 2360 01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,160 Speaker 3: normal human being normal? 2361 01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very little normal in my world at this 2362 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 5: point in time. 2363 01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,960 Speaker 3: Well, yes, it is normal. It's the baby. 2364 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:34,880 Speaker 2: Everything's around the baby, and it's the greatest time of 2365 01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:35,680 Speaker 2: your life, buddy. 2366 01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great. 2367 01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, despite the lack of sleep, which 2368 01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,240 Speaker 6: is you know, comes with the territory, but it's a 2369 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:42,160 Speaker 6: it's a fun time. 2370 01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:44,360 Speaker 5: But so we do not have big plans. Our big 2371 01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,600 Speaker 5: plans are to try to take naps when he does. 2372 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,560 Speaker 3: So that's. 2373 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,680 Speaker 6: Just trying to and try to get him to nap. 2374 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,800 Speaker 6: He doesn't want to, so just try our best to 2375 01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,760 Speaker 6: try to figure it out. Any tricks. 2376 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:06,000 Speaker 2: So we used to put the the we put the 2377 01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:09,960 Speaker 2: babies Anthey, maxball in the car seat and put them 2378 01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:10,879 Speaker 2: on the dryer. 2379 01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:14,240 Speaker 3: Oh so it kind of rocks him a little bit. Yeah, 2380 01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,080 Speaker 3: we would try that. We would. 2381 01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have the swing. I'm sure you have. 2382 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:25,760 Speaker 2: I would go and drive him around. I mean there's 2383 01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 2: a million different things. 2384 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 5: He does love driving, Yes, he does love being in 2385 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:30,320 Speaker 5: the car, in the car seat. 2386 01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:31,640 Speaker 1: Why does he just keep it? 2387 01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:32,720 Speaker 5: Just keeping him well fed? 2388 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:34,880 Speaker 6: He do this thing where you feed him and he 2389 01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:38,680 Speaker 6: basically just kind of falls asleep. Yeah, he'll lean back 2390 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:42,040 Speaker 6: and he doesn't start breathing heavily. It's almost like he's drunk. 2391 01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:47,640 Speaker 6: He's drunk of milk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the formula man, Yeah, 2392 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:48,040 Speaker 6: that's it. 2393 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,880 Speaker 5: So he gets himself into a bit of a milk comba. 2394 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,400 Speaker 6: You try to burp them, but not super aggressively so 2395 01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,640 Speaker 6: he doesn't completely wake up out of his stupor. 2396 01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,480 Speaker 5: And then you lay him down. That that that works 2397 01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:00,720 Speaker 5: about eighty percent of the time. 2398 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,680 Speaker 2: Do you have the uh, the greatest thing in the 2399 01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,880 Speaker 2: world is when he falls asleep, like right on your chest. 2400 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, have the baby blanket and yeah, he's 2401 01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,240 Speaker 2: got his head there, and then you're probably fall asleep. 2402 01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:15,760 Speaker 5: Which you're not supposed to do. But yeah, that that 2403 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,960 Speaker 5: that's happened to me once or twice. Well, you know 2404 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 5: the issue you. 2405 01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,440 Speaker 3: Ever really go deep in the deep sleep, like you 2406 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:23,440 Speaker 3: you're just restincts. 2407 01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's so interesting because you know, your instincts 2408 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:34,400 Speaker 2: take over like you're human instincts. So you know, when 2409 01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,200 Speaker 2: the baby's sleeping on you and you feel like you're 2410 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,360 Speaker 2: falling asleep, you never really fall into a deep sleep 2411 01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:44,040 Speaker 2: because you know, your your mind is constantly thinking about 2412 01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 2: the baby. 2413 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and their health and their safety and making sure 2414 01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,680 Speaker 6: he doesn't fall you know, tip or whatever. 2415 01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2416 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 5: So the issue that especially happens more with my wife 2417 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:52,160 Speaker 5: than with me. 2418 01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,120 Speaker 6: But he gets really comfortable sleeping on her, so once 2419 01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:56,440 Speaker 6: she tries to pick him up and put him down, 2420 01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,080 Speaker 6: he starts getting you know, a little upset. 2421 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, my eleven year old still let's just sleep 2422 01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:03,520 Speaker 2: with us. 2423 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 3: That week. 2424 01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:10,520 Speaker 6: He still curls up on your your wife's chest. Oh 2425 01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:12,760 Speaker 6: my god, she's like Manzmo. 2426 01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,400 Speaker 2: And meanwhile he keeps going through a growth spurt, so 2427 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:18,840 Speaker 2: he's probably wearing a size ten right now. 2428 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:20,880 Speaker 3: That's great. 2429 01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,520 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, dude, I'm on the corner 2430 01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,120 Speaker 2: of the bed. I got like nothing, man, he steals 2431 01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:33,120 Speaker 2: my pillow. Oh my god, Like, dude, stick in your room. 2432 01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,800 Speaker 3: What are you doing? He's like, but it's still like 2433 01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:37,560 Speaker 3: a comfortable here, and. 2434 01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:41,200 Speaker 2: You'll have the bed dream, you know, And what are 2435 01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:44,040 Speaker 2: you gonna do? Like I can't you know, I can't 2436 01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,440 Speaker 2: send him. I'm going to show him, right he got 2437 01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,200 Speaker 2: a bad dream, like come on, come on, you know, yeah, 2438 01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:54,240 Speaker 2: and you know he'll he'll sit there like, okay, guy, 2439 01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:55,560 Speaker 2: should we watch something? 2440 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Are you are you going to be grilling for the 2441 02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:03,920 Speaker 1: family this weekend? 2442 02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:04,200 Speaker 2: Is it? 2443 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:04,840 Speaker 3: Like? 2444 02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:06,520 Speaker 4: What what do you do when you're Italian? Like do 2445 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,320 Speaker 4: you just you put the pasta on the side and 2446 02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:10,400 Speaker 4: then you you grew can't grill the pasta. 2447 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't have a I actually don't even own a grill. 2448 02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,120 Speaker 2: I need to buy one, okay every year I say. 2449 02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,040 Speaker 3: It, and I don't like that. 2450 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't myself. 2451 02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:26,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, people are like, you know, the real 2452 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:28,560 Speaker 3: girl guys. I wish I was that. I'll be honest 2453 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,640 Speaker 3: with you, I wish I was like that. But I 2454 02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:31,280 Speaker 3: gotta get my. 2455 02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:34,320 Speaker 2: It's like every day there's something oh my and the 2456 02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,640 Speaker 2: house is a mess, you know. It's one of those deals. Yeah, 2457 02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:39,560 Speaker 2: all right, enough of everyday life. Let's get back to 2458 02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,440 Speaker 2: wind totals. Fellas Fox. 2459 02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2460 02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:48,280 Speaker 5: Well it's us. 2461 02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,120 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. 2462 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Happy, Happy Memorial Day weekend, especially special thanks to those 2463 02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:04,640 Speaker 2: who've served served our country, both pasted and present, and 2464 02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:09,240 Speaker 2: their families and the sacrifice for us to enjoy the grilling, 2465 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,200 Speaker 2: the chillin and the beach and of course all of 2466 02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:17,360 Speaker 2: our sports. Jason fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargano. 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Be sure to 2476 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:50,080 Speaker 2: follow rate review the podcast can just search Fox Sports 2477 02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see this 2478 02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:57,240 Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off the air. So, uh, 2479 02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:01,480 Speaker 2: let's real quick, get back to play last night. So 2480 02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:08,440 Speaker 2: Luca was amazing last night. And there was the sequence 2481 02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:10,920 Speaker 2: where he gets caught on a switch, which I don't 2482 02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:14,480 Speaker 2: understand why they went this route, but he catches he's 2483 02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:18,240 Speaker 2: able to catch Minnesota on his switch and go bears 2484 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:21,200 Speaker 2: on him, and so he's got go bear on skates 2485 02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,879 Speaker 2: right like he can't stay with him, and he drills 2486 02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:29,720 Speaker 2: the step back three to basically it turns out to 2487 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,760 Speaker 2: be the game winning shot. It was an incredible game 2488 02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:37,360 Speaker 2: where you know Dallas is down eighteen, right, I mean, 2489 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,960 Speaker 2: you know they came all the way back and they 2490 02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:42,880 Speaker 2: made a quick run in the third quarter to make 2491 02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:43,440 Speaker 2: it a game. 2492 02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 3: You know, a couple of times Minnesota stretched it. 2493 02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:50,800 Speaker 2: Nas Reid was terrific, but and he takes the last 2494 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,240 Speaker 2: shot and he had a decent look. Interestingly, Anthony Edwards 2495 02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:57,880 Speaker 2: passes it and it was the right pass and that 2496 02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Nazri was open. But you expect in the maturation to 2497 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,280 Speaker 2: a superstar that he winds up taking that shot at 2498 02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:07,760 Speaker 2: some point. 2499 02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,360 Speaker 3: I'll get so I'll ask you, guys, is it now 2500 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:13,960 Speaker 3: Luca's league. 2501 02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:17,720 Speaker 2: From the standpoint that if you would there's anybody you 2502 02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:21,880 Speaker 2: want right now that Luca would be the guy. 2503 02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:27,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's tough, I mean, and speaks to what I 2504 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,480 Speaker 4: said earlier, how much the conversation has changed a week ago. 2505 02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:34,200 Speaker 4: I think Luca has been a professional for so long 2506 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:37,000 Speaker 4: at this point, and you go back to even before 2507 02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,000 Speaker 4: he got into the league, when he was, you know, 2508 02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,040 Speaker 4: a kid basically competing against grown men in the second 2509 02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:44,480 Speaker 4: best basketball league in the world and dominating. They're like 2510 02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:48,839 Speaker 4: Luca there, there's no moment Luca isn't capable of handling 2511 02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,480 Speaker 4: and you mentioned learning from it, like Anthony Edwards has 2512 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,040 Speaker 4: got to learn, like how to get through that moment 2513 02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,000 Speaker 4: and whether or not that's his shot to take, so 2514 02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:59,840 Speaker 4: on and so forth. Like there's no learning left for Luca. 2515 02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:04,640 Speaker 4: Luca is rock solid superstar, right is he the guy? 2516 02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Man? I don't know. 2517 02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:07,520 Speaker 4: It feels like there's a bunch of them that are 2518 02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,920 Speaker 4: sort of grouped together for me, I don't know that 2519 02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:11,840 Speaker 4: it separates versus everybody else. 2520 02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,320 Speaker 2: But he's only twenty five years old, Like you think 2521 02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,040 Speaker 2: about Luca, he's only twenty five. 2522 02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:21,240 Speaker 4: It's just you know, there's I'm gonna be this terrible 2523 02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,600 Speaker 4: thing to say, right because I'm not here when everybody's 2524 02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:26,160 Speaker 4: gonna spend the weekend, you know, eating whatever they want 2525 02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:28,000 Speaker 4: and drink or whatever they want, party and however they want. 2526 02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:29,720 Speaker 4: I'm not here to judge people that want to party 2527 02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:32,520 Speaker 4: however they want or eat however they want. But like Luca, 2528 02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:35,680 Speaker 4: for a basketball player, sometimes looks a little chunky, like 2529 02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,000 Speaker 4: I just I like my basketball players to be like 2530 02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:41,680 Speaker 4: super athletic, like I can take over every everything, every moment. 2531 02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,000 Speaker 4: Sometimes Luca looks like he's a little gased sometimes, you know, 2532 02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:45,240 Speaker 4: like face of the league. 2533 02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can. Can you be a 2534 02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:47,960 Speaker 1: little fluffy and be the face? 2535 02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,000 Speaker 3: I don't know is that he is? 2536 02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:54,600 Speaker 2: He Like if you have a number one pick who 2537 02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:56,320 Speaker 2: you taking? You're taking Luca. 2538 02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:02,920 Speaker 4: I mean, for if I if I've been the entire NBA, 2539 02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:07,000 Speaker 4: I'm taking Jokic, I'm taking Yokiics. I would have said, yeah, 2540 02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,520 Speaker 4: three time MVP for a reason, best player in the league. 2541 02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:11,920 Speaker 4: Not only can he score on anybody, he can facilitate 2542 02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:15,560 Speaker 4: anybody from absolutely anywhere, and you can put mediocrity around 2543 02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:19,320 Speaker 4: him and still win. Like one handed, I think Jokic 2544 02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:22,720 Speaker 4: can get himself very far in most years. 2545 02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:25,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, we know, but we do know that, 2546 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,400 Speaker 3: you know, the big, the tail of the big. 2547 02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:34,040 Speaker 2: It's tough because you need someone to facilitate, right like 2548 02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:39,120 Speaker 2: to to make create, you need creators. And so that's 2549 02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:42,000 Speaker 2: an issue, right like you know when you're talking about 2550 02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:45,320 Speaker 2: a five and you're talking about a big man creating 2551 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:51,040 Speaker 2: and like last night, per example, because you know, as 2552 02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:53,440 Speaker 2: great as he is, and it's a great pick that 2553 02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:56,400 Speaker 2: you guys, go Jokic, he's not creating his own shot. 2554 02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:00,440 Speaker 1: You're okay, you're right. 2555 02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:03,120 Speaker 4: I will not disagree with you that he's not going 2556 02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:05,880 Speaker 4: to turn around get that mismatch into a step back 2557 02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:09,080 Speaker 4: that wins the game one hundred. But there is no 2558 02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:12,560 Speaker 4: bigger mismatch night in and night out than your Kich 2559 02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:14,760 Speaker 4: versus whoever you're trying to put on him. Right like, 2560 02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:17,480 Speaker 4: that's there. There are a handful of guys that can 2561 02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:22,520 Speaker 4: do what you Listen, Indeed, there are a handful of 2562 02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,960 Speaker 4: guys that can do what Luca did last night, They're 2563 02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:26,440 Speaker 4: not a handful of guys in the NBA. 2564 02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:28,800 Speaker 1: They can do what Yo kich does most nights in. 2565 02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,280 Speaker 5: A play in playout basis. 2566 02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:31,800 Speaker 6: More often than that, you're going to be able to 2567 02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:33,240 Speaker 6: get into a set where you can get him the 2568 02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:36,840 Speaker 6: ball in his spots. You don't necessarily have to have 2569 02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:40,240 Speaker 6: you know, the point God Guru to be able to give. 2570 02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:41,960 Speaker 5: Him the ball. Not it's not that complicated. 2571 02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't know someone who's dealt with the five, who 2572 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:53,000 Speaker 2: I love, by the way, but there's a there's a distinct, 2573 02:06:53,280 --> 02:06:56,520 Speaker 2: I think, disadvantage when you're five, it's your best player. 2574 02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:00,200 Speaker 4: Are we are we sleeping on y honest? In this 2575 02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:01,920 Speaker 4: combo like this couple of years ago, it would have 2576 02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:02,640 Speaker 4: been honest. 2577 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,400 Speaker 6: For a long he's been a little banged up recently. 2578 02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:07,520 Speaker 6: Doesn't help us, cause that's fair. 2579 02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, great, great, great player. 2580 02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:14,080 Speaker 2: Obviously I love Gianni's in the conversation, I'm just asking 2581 02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:18,840 Speaker 2: the question about what you guys, because the thing about. 2582 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,520 Speaker 3: He does everything, he's an. 2583 02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Incredible like the pass he made last night when they're 2584 02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:32,680 Speaker 2: blitzing him, like, yeah, I mean, Yoka's terrific pants were 2585 02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:33,120 Speaker 2: a big guy. 2586 02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:36,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll make like that. Like well, the thing is 2587 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:39,120 Speaker 6: they look less impressive. He's not gonna take anybody off 2588 02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:41,360 Speaker 6: the dribble. So one thing that dude Don has over 2589 02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:45,280 Speaker 6: him is his handle, but everything else and Don is 2590 02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,120 Speaker 6: probably a better outside shooter, although Yoka is a really 2591 02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:50,680 Speaker 6: good outside shooter. But I don't think the gap is 2592 02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:52,240 Speaker 6: really that why between the two of them, just as 2593 02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:55,560 Speaker 6: individual players skill set wise, and you know, esthetically, they 2594 02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:57,160 Speaker 6: might look a little bit different here and there, but 2595 02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:00,600 Speaker 6: I mean, overall, I think i'd read I still rather 2596 02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:01,200 Speaker 6: have Yokic. 2597 02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:04,560 Speaker 5: This is not them disparage, you know, y Luca by 2598 02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:05,880 Speaker 5: any stretch. I'd love to have him. 2599 02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:08,240 Speaker 6: But if you're asking me, if if I had to pick, 2600 02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:09,960 Speaker 6: I would say Jokic over him. 2601 02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm going to be a stat nerd for 2602 02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:14,200 Speaker 1: a second. I think this is interesting. 2603 02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:18,440 Speaker 4: I looked up and the NBA Advanced Analytics for Player 2604 02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:22,160 Speaker 4: Impact their estimated player impact number two in the entire 2605 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:26,480 Speaker 4: NBA Luca at a score of twenty number one, Jokic 2606 02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:28,840 Speaker 4: at a twenty one point one. Very close between the 2607 02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:31,120 Speaker 4: two of them, by the way, and interesting when you 2608 02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:32,880 Speaker 4: look at the names in the top ten. Many of 2609 02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,000 Speaker 4: the names we've heard in the playoffs a bunch, but 2610 02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:38,080 Speaker 4: Victor weman Ya, I'm a finished eighth already and in 2611 02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:43,480 Speaker 4: one case, so I mean, like, if we're talking about 2612 02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,440 Speaker 4: moving forward, Wenby's going to be part of this conversation too. 2613 02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:49,520 Speaker 4: But interesting that off the top of our heads we 2614 02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:52,280 Speaker 4: picked the two guys that have the highest impact rating 2615 02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:54,880 Speaker 4: according to advanced analytics. 2616 02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll push my glasses up now, be a nerd. 2617 02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, which you know, we stay the reason 2618 02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:05,040 Speaker 2: right because of the ball in their hands and you know, 2619 02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:08,200 Speaker 2: and kind of how they make their team go and 2620 02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,360 Speaker 2: kind of what they do and being terrific passers and 2621 02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:12,880 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 2622 02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:14,080 Speaker 3: It is interesting. 2623 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:19,040 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, I hear a lot of like 2624 02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:24,040 Speaker 2: anti Doncic, and I quite frankly, I you know, other 2625 02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,080 Speaker 2: than the fact that you know, I get he's farm 2626 02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:26,920 Speaker 2: born player or. 2627 02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,440 Speaker 5: Whatever and he complains a lot, but I mean, you 2628 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,920 Speaker 5: know that's neither here nor there. He's an NBA player, 2629 02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:36,360 Speaker 5: so well, I mean Mark's officials and NBA players bark 2630 02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:37,480 Speaker 5: at officials, So I mean. 2631 02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean I like that 2632 02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:41,440 Speaker 2: stuff that never bothers me. I'll be honest with you, 2633 02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:43,680 Speaker 2: like I don't you know, I don't care who does it. 2634 02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:48,120 Speaker 3: You know, I like this. I like his spirit, like 2635 02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:49,200 Speaker 3: he's tough man. 2636 02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:54,000 Speaker 2: He's barking at the Minnesota bench all game like, and 2637 02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,280 Speaker 2: he's saying, you know, the last guy who tell you 2638 02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:59,680 Speaker 2: that he's going to be from the spot was a 2639 02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:03,160 Speaker 2: guy a bird I mean, you know, I mean Jordan's 2640 02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:08,000 Speaker 2: I mean guys that have stones, man like, I. 2641 02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Appreciate that out of out of Toatchets and he does. 2642 02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:14,720 Speaker 2: And the dude, stay with the other piece of this 2643 02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:19,600 Speaker 2: thing is he's been bagged up right, like he's been 2644 02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:23,480 Speaker 2: gotten through it and he's just great. And you watch 2645 02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:31,640 Speaker 2: him and his movements are so uh pointed that it 2646 02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,520 Speaker 2: just makes him so dangerous bizarre. 2647 02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:36,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, because he's not moving very fast because he can't, 2648 02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:40,080 Speaker 6: but very methodical and there's there's a you know, there's 2649 02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,560 Speaker 6: a reason in a rhythm to everything that he does make. 2650 02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:44,200 Speaker 3: It even more impressive. I mean, I love, you. 2651 02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Don't have to be fast to be unstoppable. 2652 02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,440 Speaker 4: And there are definitely times because you're right, like, you know, 2653 02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:52,960 Speaker 4: we've seen fast and quick twitch and all of these 2654 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:56,000 Speaker 4: things that's not Luca. But certainly even when you're you're 2655 02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:57,840 Speaker 4: just face faced with him. The guys don't know how 2656 02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,880 Speaker 4: to stop him. He's able to get his shot for 2657 02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:01,200 Speaker 4: wherever he wants to get his shot. 2658 02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:02,600 Speaker 1: You're totally right about that. 2659 02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:08,920 Speaker 2: It's so interesting watching him, you know, as they're blitzing 2660 02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:16,240 Speaker 2: him and he's just feeding Gafford and feeding Lively, you know. 2661 02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:20,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's that that seems it's amazing. 2662 02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:22,880 Speaker 2: I was talking to Tim Legler about this the other 2663 02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:27,160 Speaker 2: day and he said he was doing the NBA Trade 2664 02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Deadline show and they get to the end of the 2665 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,600 Speaker 2: show and he goes, hey, am we going to talk 2666 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:34,720 Speaker 2: about PJ Washington? 2667 02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:35,120 Speaker 1: Right? 2668 02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:36,640 Speaker 3: Am I going to talk about Washington? 2669 02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:39,200 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna talk about Gafford and the whole thing 2670 02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:43,840 Speaker 2: and those moves that Dallas made And they were like nah, 2671 02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:46,840 Speaker 2: because it wasn't sexy, and he was like, I actually 2672 02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:49,600 Speaker 2: think that those were really impactful moves. 2673 02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:52,520 Speaker 3: It turns out like it winds up saving the whole season. 2674 02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and good on Legs for seeing that quickly. He 2675 02:11:57,760 --> 02:11:58,360 Speaker 1: always does. 2676 02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:00,280 Speaker 4: Like that's why he's one of the best in the 2677 02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:02,680 Speaker 4: business that being able to see that and also a 2678 02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:07,280 Speaker 4: reminder that no matter what sport we're talking about, complimentary 2679 02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:09,520 Speaker 4: is an important part of it. Like we get so 2680 02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:13,440 Speaker 4: infatuated with certain names that we just forget that at 2681 02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:15,880 Speaker 4: some point guys running front offices and Bobby Marks used 2682 02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:17,280 Speaker 4: to talk to me about this all the time, like 2683 02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:19,360 Speaker 4: you've really got to look at it and say, Okay, 2684 02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:21,280 Speaker 4: I can have the best ingredients in the world, but 2685 02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,600 Speaker 4: I don't make a great dish unless I get the 2686 02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:26,200 Speaker 4: things that go together with each other well. And that's 2687 02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:28,760 Speaker 4: something that you know, at times in his career when 2688 02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:30,920 Speaker 4: he was running teams he didn't have the necessarily have 2689 02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,640 Speaker 4: the opportunity to do because of the way owners wanted 2690 02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:35,760 Speaker 4: the teams to be built. You know, I think there 2691 02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:38,840 Speaker 4: is a level to me of looking around, and you 2692 02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:42,160 Speaker 4: said it earlier. I think it's pretty stunning just how 2693 02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:44,040 Speaker 4: much I take for granted right now, the fact that 2694 02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,360 Speaker 4: Kyrie and Luca figured out how to play together, but 2695 02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:48,560 Speaker 4: then all these ancillary pieces have worked. 2696 02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Out so perfectly. But that is truly one of the 2697 02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:52,600 Speaker 1: more stunning developments of the playoffs. 2698 02:12:53,560 --> 02:12:56,680 Speaker 2: Really is really is allright, boys, let's get back to 2699 02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:00,360 Speaker 2: our NFL wind totals, because all roads on the show 2700 02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:08,520 Speaker 2: lead back to football Cincinnati. How about this ten and 2701 02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:13,240 Speaker 2: a half and it's minus one twenty five. It is 2702 02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:14,200 Speaker 2: being steed. 2703 02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:18,840 Speaker 4: What do you think, FITZI, I mean, I'm high on 2704 02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:20,880 Speaker 4: the Bengals this year because if not now, then when 2705 02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:23,720 Speaker 4: like this is I know nobody. 2706 02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:25,960 Speaker 1: Ever puts pressure on Joe Burrow, but why I keep 2707 02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:26,320 Speaker 1: saying it. 2708 02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:29,000 Speaker 4: I've said it with you guys before, like injury prone 2709 02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:30,840 Speaker 4: is a fair label to put on him, no matter 2710 02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:33,000 Speaker 4: how the injuries are coming. We don't ever seem to 2711 02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:35,840 Speaker 4: want to have the context around how Lamar got injured. 2712 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:38,280 Speaker 4: When he got injured, we just say, oh, well, that's 2713 02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:40,800 Speaker 4: what happens when you're a mobile quarterback. Forgetting that his 2714 02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:43,080 Speaker 4: injuries came in the pocket now while it was running. 2715 02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:45,800 Speaker 4: So I'm looking squarely at Joe Burrow and saying how 2716 02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:48,240 Speaker 4: many years of his career are we going to have 2717 02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:51,320 Speaker 4: to lose or lose part of due to injuries? So 2718 02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:54,480 Speaker 4: Burrow's back and the Bengals believe that they're all in 2719 02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:57,320 Speaker 4: simply because let's be real, if they didn't, they would 2720 02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:58,320 Speaker 4: have traded t Higgins. 2721 02:13:58,440 --> 02:13:59,320 Speaker 1: So they think they're all in. 2722 02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:03,160 Speaker 4: He also said it OTAs he's still feeling pain, which 2723 02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:06,040 Speaker 4: you know he said might be normal, might not. Joe 2724 02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:09,520 Speaker 4: Burrow said to the local reporters that he's looked it 2725 02:14:09,640 --> 02:14:12,600 Speaker 4: up and never found another quarterback that has had the 2726 02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:16,680 Speaker 4: injury he just had. So Burrow is telling you he's hurt, weird, 2727 02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,800 Speaker 4: and he's still hurt. That being said, if he's still 2728 02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:21,720 Speaker 4: if he can't get it right this year, then the 2729 02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:24,560 Speaker 4: Bengals are screwed. Right, So ten and a half feels 2730 02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,240 Speaker 4: like they have to get over that number if they 2731 02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:28,560 Speaker 4: are at all going to be who we thought they 2732 02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:30,000 Speaker 4: were going to be. They're supposed to be the air 2733 02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:32,360 Speaker 4: upayer team that can take down the Chiefs. I still 2734 02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:34,320 Speaker 4: believe they can be. I take the over on it. 2735 02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:37,080 Speaker 4: If they don't hit the over on this, then I 2736 02:14:37,160 --> 02:14:40,320 Speaker 4: think we have an obligation to start having tough conversations 2737 02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:42,960 Speaker 4: about Joe Burrow and where he is in his career 2738 02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:43,480 Speaker 4: at this point. 2739 02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:49,640 Speaker 5: Figure Yeah, I'm with you, and I think it's going 2740 02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:51,200 Speaker 5: to be a bounce back year for Joe Burrow. 2741 02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:51,480 Speaker 1: It is. 2742 02:14:51,640 --> 02:14:53,120 Speaker 5: It's going to be a big season for end the guy. 2743 02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:54,640 Speaker 6: I just have to be able to stay healthy that's 2744 02:14:54,680 --> 02:14:57,600 Speaker 6: been dried up there with some of the best quarterbacks 2745 02:14:57,600 --> 02:14:59,480 Speaker 6: in the NFL. Is certainly his pay like it, but 2746 02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:01,840 Speaker 6: its until he stays on the field for a full season, 2747 02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:04,280 Speaker 6: you know it's going to be tough sledding. 2748 02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:07,400 Speaker 5: I'm I'm going to reluctantly go go with the over. 2749 02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:09,440 Speaker 5: I don't know if T Higgins. 2750 02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:12,920 Speaker 6: You know, is that they clearly as you as you 2751 02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:15,320 Speaker 6: mentioned fits, you made the investment to keep them on 2752 02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:17,000 Speaker 6: the team and not trade him away. So they think 2753 02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:18,920 Speaker 6: that they're going to be able to compete in that 2754 02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:22,280 Speaker 6: division and they will whether or not that that defense 2755 02:15:22,400 --> 02:15:24,600 Speaker 6: is aging a little bit, and we know the Bengals are. 2756 02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:26,520 Speaker 6: They kind of cycle through guys once they're not able 2757 02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:30,640 Speaker 6: to resign them, so we'll see what happens. I'm cautiously 2758 02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:32,760 Speaker 6: optimistic about Cincinnati, so I'll take. 2759 02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:34,640 Speaker 5: The over, but I'm not ultra confident about it. 2760 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I listen, it's a tough call for me. 2761 02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:41,840 Speaker 3: I you guys make compelling case for it. Ten and 2762 02:15:41,920 --> 02:15:42,240 Speaker 3: a half. 2763 02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:47,160 Speaker 6: This feels feels heavy, right Yeah. I mean because I 2764 02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:50,040 Speaker 6: could see ten and seven right right right, I can 2765 02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:51,800 Speaker 6: see ten wins. I can see now if it was 2766 02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:53,240 Speaker 6: nine and a half, I feel like I might be 2767 02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:54,680 Speaker 6: a lot more comfortable. 2768 02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:54,680 Speaker 1: With the over. 2769 02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's why I want to go on there, only 2770 02:15:57,080 --> 02:15:59,560 Speaker 2: because of that but yeah, I mean, you guys are 2771 02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:01,120 Speaker 2: are spot on, you know. 2772 02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's one of the lines that I think 2773 02:16:03,880 --> 02:16:04,680 Speaker 3: is right on because I. 2774 02:16:04,720 --> 02:16:08,720 Speaker 2: See ten wins out of them and full disclosure through 2775 02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:11,280 Speaker 2: some schedules I went through. I didn't go through the schedule, 2776 02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:15,720 Speaker 2: FITZI looked at the schedule. How's that Bengals, how does 2777 02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:16,640 Speaker 2: that schedule look? 2778 02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:19,320 Speaker 4: Oh, they come out hot because they got the Patriots 2779 02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:20,800 Speaker 4: Week one, and I think they're gonna be one of 2780 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:23,200 Speaker 4: the worst teams in the NFL. Then they have the 2781 02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:28,280 Speaker 4: Chiefs that stuff Washington, Carolina, Baltimore's tough than the Giants. 2782 02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:31,680 Speaker 4: Then the Browns, Eagles, Raiders. I mean, it's pretty it's 2783 02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,360 Speaker 4: pretty favorable for them. Even towards the end of the season. 2784 02:16:34,720 --> 02:16:37,439 Speaker 4: They get the Titans, the Browns, the Broncos, the Steelers, 2785 02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:40,720 Speaker 4: the Browns, Broncos, Steelers, those are all winnable games. So 2786 02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:44,040 Speaker 4: I feel like it's pretty easy to find the wins 2787 02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:44,600 Speaker 4: on their form. 2788 02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Brown's eight and a half. 2789 02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so the Browns. Here's the thing. Let's be real. 2790 02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:58,200 Speaker 4: Last year, the Browns had one real liability. Their roster 2791 02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:02,760 Speaker 4: is absolutely be super Bowl worthy. The quarterback is not 2792 02:17:02,959 --> 02:17:05,440 Speaker 4: super Bowl worthy, and everybody keeps trying to make some 2793 02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:07,360 Speaker 4: excuse for why it's going to turn around, Like what 2794 02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:09,200 Speaker 4: if he's just got the yips? At this point, I'm 2795 02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:11,680 Speaker 4: not even talking about the other stuff. I'm just talking 2796 02:17:11,680 --> 02:17:15,800 Speaker 4: about Watson, you know, on the field. What if, like 2797 02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:18,280 Speaker 4: what if this is just the version of him moving forward? 2798 02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:21,080 Speaker 4: And if that is, it's going to be heavy sledding 2799 02:17:21,160 --> 02:17:24,160 Speaker 4: for them the whole way, the whole way. So look, 2800 02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:27,680 Speaker 4: I think the Browns are a super Bowl caliber football team, 2801 02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:29,760 Speaker 4: but I don't trust to Sean Watson, so I take 2802 02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:31,640 Speaker 4: the under, even though I think the rest of their 2803 02:17:31,720 --> 02:17:34,440 Speaker 4: roster could be arguably. 2804 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:37,360 Speaker 1: The best in the NFL. If they even got even 2805 02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:38,200 Speaker 1: got just. 2806 02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:41,640 Speaker 4: Slightly above a B minus quarterback play, they're a super 2807 02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:42,080 Speaker 4: Bowl team. 2808 02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I just don't know that. 2809 02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:45,000 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, though, because I agree 2810 02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:49,280 Speaker 2: with like your assessment. But it's only eight and a half. 2811 02:17:50,240 --> 02:17:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Joe Flako Cann come back again 2812 02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:53,640 Speaker 2: and get nine. 2813 02:17:54,800 --> 02:17:56,560 Speaker 4: I thought you, I thought you said nine and a half. Yeah, 2814 02:17:56,560 --> 02:17:57,960 Speaker 4: I'll take the over on eight and half because I 2815 02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:01,360 Speaker 4: think nine is right. But yeah, okay, that yeah, I'll give. 2816 02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:03,200 Speaker 6: You yeah, sure right, yeah, yeah, because I'm thinking even 2817 02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:05,400 Speaker 6: if Watson falls off a cliff again, that the team 2818 02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:08,760 Speaker 6: is so stacked. If you just have somewhat competent quarterback play, 2819 02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,120 Speaker 6: you know you should be able to get what nine wins. 2820 02:18:11,640 --> 02:18:13,440 Speaker 5: I won't say fairly easily. It's not easy to get 2821 02:18:13,520 --> 02:18:14,560 Speaker 5: nine wins, but you have. 2822 02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:18,440 Speaker 6: The capability, realistically speaking with the backup quarterback to be 2823 02:18:18,480 --> 02:18:19,480 Speaker 6: able to get that many wins. 2824 02:18:19,480 --> 02:18:20,240 Speaker 5: So I'll take the over. 2825 02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:23,120 Speaker 3: All, Right, let's do one more and we'll take a 2826 02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:34,600 Speaker 3: quick too. Oh, the Cowboys ten and a f O 2827 02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:38,199 Speaker 3: ten and af A Dallas. 2828 02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:40,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna have. 2829 02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:44,280 Speaker 4: They gotta have seven losses on their schedule for me 2830 02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:47,800 Speaker 4: to feel good about there's one, two, three, they split there, 2831 02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:49,120 Speaker 4: four or five? 2832 02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I take the over. 2833 02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:53,000 Speaker 4: Taking the over, I think the death of the Cowboys 2834 02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:55,120 Speaker 4: is being widely, wildly over reported. 2835 02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:55,680 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. 2836 02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:57,960 Speaker 4: I don't think they're any closer to a super Bowl 2837 02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:00,120 Speaker 4: than they were a year ago. But they want a 2838 02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:02,640 Speaker 4: lot of games last year and there's still a team 2839 02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:04,640 Speaker 4: that can go out and win a lot of games. 2840 02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:07,360 Speaker 4: Can Dak Prescott win a playoff game? Can Mike McCarthy 2841 02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:09,440 Speaker 4: get him where they want to be in the Promised Land? 2842 02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:11,400 Speaker 4: Do they have the guys in the clutch that they need, 2843 02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:13,400 Speaker 4: do they have the dog in the locker room? Those 2844 02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:16,920 Speaker 4: are all really valuable conversations that we should have in January. 2845 02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:19,240 Speaker 4: Can they win a bunch of regular season games they 2846 02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:19,920 Speaker 4: did last year? 2847 02:19:20,360 --> 02:19:20,880 Speaker 1: I just don't. 2848 02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:24,680 Speaker 3: I don't think there's one games. To your point, They've 2849 02:19:24,840 --> 02:19:27,600 Speaker 3: won more games than anybody over the last three years. 2850 02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:32,240 Speaker 1: I just I think that continues. This reminds me a 2851 02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:32,680 Speaker 1: little bit. 2852 02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:35,080 Speaker 4: What's happening right now for the Cowboys reminds me of 2853 02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:37,840 Speaker 4: the Bills conversation last year, where everybody kept saying. 2854 02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:39,720 Speaker 1: The Bills, You're gonna fall off the cliff, and I'm like. 2855 02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:42,560 Speaker 4: The Bills may not be able to take down Kansas City, 2856 02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:44,800 Speaker 4: They're still gonna win a lot of regular season games. 2857 02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:47,160 Speaker 4: Cowboys in the same exact situation for me, So I. 2858 02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:47,680 Speaker 1: Take the over. 2859 02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:49,400 Speaker 3: What's your schedule look like? 2860 02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:54,520 Speaker 4: They open at Cleveland, then they have New Orleans, Baltimore, 2861 02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:57,520 Speaker 4: the Giants, the Steelers, the Lions of forty nine ers. 2862 02:19:57,560 --> 02:19:58,400 Speaker 1: There's some tough in there. 2863 02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:00,880 Speaker 4: There's some tough but the end of their schedule, the 2864 02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:04,160 Speaker 4: last month of their schedule is at Carolina, Tampa Bay, 2865 02:20:04,360 --> 02:20:07,200 Speaker 4: at Philly, and then Washington and they could win three 2866 02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:08,600 Speaker 4: out of four of those even if they split with 2867 02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:09,080 Speaker 4: the Eagles. 2868 02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we fig what you got, buddy. 2869 02:20:12,680 --> 02:20:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Cowboys are a great regular season team. They have 2870 02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:17,920 Speaker 5: been for the longest time. I mean, what the number was, 2871 02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:19,200 Speaker 5: what was it? Was it ten and a half? 2872 02:20:19,240 --> 02:20:20,600 Speaker 3: You said and a half? 2873 02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:24,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh in that division, I'll take ten and a 2874 02:20:24,200 --> 02:20:26,280 Speaker 6: half with them and the Eagles kind of battling it out. 2875 02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:28,280 Speaker 6: So yeah, ten and a half seems safe to me 2876 02:20:28,400 --> 02:20:29,840 Speaker 6: for from a regular season standpoint. 2877 02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:33,040 Speaker 3: For them, My only thing is their running back room. 2878 02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:35,760 Speaker 3: It's horrible. Yeah, awful. 2879 02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:38,040 Speaker 6: Well look, I mean I remember bringing this up, you 2880 02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:39,840 Speaker 6: know when they you know, they cut all their guys loose, 2881 02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:42,160 Speaker 6: and we were like, well, they're well addressed in the draft. 2882 02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:43,160 Speaker 5: Well did they? 2883 02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:48,080 Speaker 3: No, I haven't. I haven't feeling that. I felt the 2884 02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:48,800 Speaker 3: same thing you did. 2885 02:20:48,840 --> 02:20:51,160 Speaker 2: I think you're spot on, and I got a feeling 2886 02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:56,360 Speaker 2: that this is the implosion and that Belichick's there next year. 2887 02:20:57,879 --> 02:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Here's here's you know. 2888 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:02,040 Speaker 4: What's great about this, Well, I'll tell you there's the 2889 02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:04,280 Speaker 4: Cowboys to me, the best thing in the world, because 2890 02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:07,879 Speaker 4: we can't lose this year. If they absolutely suck, then 2891 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:11,600 Speaker 4: this holding implodes. Even better is if Dak goes out 2892 02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:14,360 Speaker 4: and wins the MVP, they win a couple of playoff games, 2893 02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:17,080 Speaker 4: and then he turns around to Jerry Jones and he says, now, 2894 02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:19,120 Speaker 4: my contract says you can't franchise me. 2895 02:21:19,360 --> 02:21:22,040 Speaker 1: My contract says you can't trade me. You didn't pay me. 2896 02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:24,080 Speaker 4: I would like to see what the open market will 2897 02:21:24,160 --> 02:21:26,760 Speaker 4: coming off an MVP caliber season when nobody can stop 2898 02:21:26,879 --> 02:21:29,760 Speaker 4: him all just to watch him leave Jerry at the 2899 02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:32,360 Speaker 4: altar because he wants to take money from somebody else. 2900 02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Injected in my bains, we get trauma either way. 2901 02:21:36,879 --> 02:21:38,600 Speaker 3: If I'm Jerry, I go see you, buddy. 2902 02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:43,800 Speaker 5: Hell, I'll do Jerry to be strong armed. 2903 02:21:44,360 --> 02:21:46,039 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying if he goes out there, and. 2904 02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:49,600 Speaker 4: If he if he goes out there and is an 2905 02:21:49,800 --> 02:21:53,040 Speaker 4: MVP candidate and then he's like or an MVP. I 2906 02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:55,080 Speaker 4: want Dak to win the MVP and then tell the 2907 02:21:55,160 --> 02:21:56,800 Speaker 4: cowboys up here that's what I really want. 2908 02:21:56,879 --> 02:21:57,480 Speaker 1: I think he'd be able. 2909 02:21:57,720 --> 02:22:00,960 Speaker 3: Here's the problem. Who would the MVP and he'll play 2910 02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:02,840 Speaker 3: horrifically in the playoffs and lose. 2911 02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:06,720 Speaker 1: That is you know, you may not be wrong, but. 2912 02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:10,080 Speaker 4: I know plenty of teams will go out there and 2913 02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:12,280 Speaker 4: pay him that MVP money even if he loses in 2914 02:22:12,360 --> 02:22:12,879 Speaker 4: the playoffs. 2915 02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:16,959 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, somebody else. Let somebody else do it. I'm 2916 02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:19,880 Speaker 2: not I appreciate it, all right. If we're the fellas 2917 02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:23,560 Speaker 2: hagging a lot of fun right here. Fox Sports Radio 2918 02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Welcome Back Fella is on this Memorial Day weekend, live 2919 02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:38,440 Speaker 2: from theti iraq dot Com studios, hanging out. Jason fitz 2920 02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:42,400 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures, I'm Anthony Gargano, Mike. 2921 02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:43,760 Speaker 3: T Mark, and Ian. 2922 02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:47,640 Speaker 2: We love our Ian and Mighty Mark their produce, this 2923 02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:51,080 Speaker 2: thing doing a great job as always. All right, let's 2924 02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:54,920 Speaker 2: get back to, uh, the cowboy thing. You're right though, Fitzy, 2925 02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:56,800 Speaker 2: just to put a bow on that. That's gonna be 2926 02:22:56,959 --> 02:23:00,680 Speaker 2: incredible because you're right, if they you know, do well, 2927 02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's a story. And if they implode, 2928 02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:09,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's the Belichick watch and the whole thing. 2929 02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:16,120 Speaker 4: But also, like the only way now, because you guys 2930 02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:18,960 Speaker 4: mentioned it, the running back room is awful. We all 2931 02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:21,800 Speaker 4: agree that the running back room is awful. So what 2932 02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:23,640 Speaker 4: the cowboys have told us is that the only way 2933 02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:25,680 Speaker 4: they believe they can win. For the way that they're 2934 02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:27,440 Speaker 4: going to win, the number of games they need to 2935 02:23:27,480 --> 02:23:30,560 Speaker 4: win is if they put it on Dak's shoulders, which means, 2936 02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:33,040 Speaker 4: coming off a year where he completed almost seventy percent 2937 02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:35,320 Speaker 4: of his passes for forty five hundred yards and thirty 2938 02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:38,440 Speaker 4: six touchdowns, the only way that they're going to replicate 2939 02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:41,959 Speaker 4: that level of success is if he replicates at least 2940 02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:46,240 Speaker 4: that level of success, which means they're actually the path 2941 02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:48,680 Speaker 4: for the Cowboys to be great requires that the player 2942 02:23:48,720 --> 02:23:51,680 Speaker 4: that they haven't gotten under contract next year have a career. 2943 02:23:52,120 --> 02:23:53,959 Speaker 1: That's it, and I think it can happen. 2944 02:23:54,080 --> 02:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Like I honestly think as well as Dak was playing 2945 02:23:56,400 --> 02:23:59,760 Speaker 4: last year, I'm holding the playoffs to a total different standard. 2946 02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:02,200 Speaker 1: What do you do if you are the Cowboys? 2947 02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:04,560 Speaker 4: You turn around and you win twelve thirteen games this 2948 02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:08,720 Speaker 4: year Dak puts up forty six forty seven hundred yards forty. 2949 02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:12,119 Speaker 1: Touchdowns is an MVP. Let's say he wins. 2950 02:24:11,959 --> 02:24:14,480 Speaker 4: A first round home playoff game, loses in the NFC 2951 02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:17,640 Speaker 4: Championship game even and all of a sudden, now Dak 2952 02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:20,480 Speaker 4: looks around and says, well, here's the thing, y'all didn't 2953 02:24:20,480 --> 02:24:22,760 Speaker 4: get me what I wanted when I wanted it. Now 2954 02:24:23,360 --> 02:24:25,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go at least see if somebody else wants 2955 02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:28,039 Speaker 4: to love me a little bit more. And like, as 2956 02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:30,320 Speaker 4: I've said a million times, you want to tell me 2957 02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:32,640 Speaker 4: that a team like the Raiders that can't address the 2958 02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:35,760 Speaker 4: quarterback position won't turn around and say, Okay, we need 2959 02:24:35,800 --> 02:24:38,240 Speaker 4: a quarterback and he's fine, we'll give you fifty five 2960 02:24:38,280 --> 02:24:39,879 Speaker 4: I don't care give you fifty five million. 2961 02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Let's go Dak. 2962 02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:43,240 Speaker 4: The Cowboys are going to be in a very precarious 2963 02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:46,200 Speaker 4: that one or two things happens. They're successful and they're screwed, 2964 02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:50,040 Speaker 4: or they are absolutely terrible and they're screwed. Either way, 2965 02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:51,080 Speaker 4: the Cowboys are up a creek. 2966 02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:56,560 Speaker 2: You know what's weird about Dak is that. And maybe 2967 02:24:56,560 --> 02:24:59,720 Speaker 2: it's because of the playoff bias. And you know, I 2968 02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:02,320 Speaker 2: guess years past you could have said it about a 2969 02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:06,720 Speaker 2: lot of other quarterbacks. But man, I mean, he's he's 2970 02:25:06,840 --> 02:25:09,959 Speaker 2: like the consummate front runner. Like he when he does 2971 02:25:10,120 --> 02:25:14,360 Speaker 2: really well, like when they're rolling, he looks incredible, like 2972 02:25:14,480 --> 02:25:17,680 Speaker 2: he doesn't mean he's throwing dimes and he's spreading the 2973 02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:23,320 Speaker 2: ball round, mousehole throws, pillow throws. But man, when they're not, 2974 02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:28,640 Speaker 2: he's he's awful and he's losing big games. It's why 2975 02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:33,240 Speaker 2: can't It's hard for me to divorce the playoff DAC 2976 02:25:33,440 --> 02:25:37,359 Speaker 2: and the big game Dack. You know from the equation, 2977 02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:39,520 Speaker 2: it's why if I'm the Raiders, I go do? I 2978 02:25:39,640 --> 02:25:42,360 Speaker 2: want to go and and go sell out? 2979 02:25:42,480 --> 02:25:42,760 Speaker 1: For what? 2980 02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:45,760 Speaker 3: What am I buying? Am I gonna? Am I getting 2981 02:25:45,800 --> 02:25:47,560 Speaker 3: a guy that could actually win? 2982 02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:52,840 Speaker 4: Here's the thing though, Like, if you are one of 2983 02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:55,880 Speaker 4: many of the teams in the league that just don't 2984 02:25:56,240 --> 02:25:59,400 Speaker 4: have an answer at quarterback, what else are you gonna do? 2985 02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:01,920 Speaker 1: Like, and look, it's early. 2986 02:26:02,080 --> 02:26:04,600 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels a year ago wasn't a household name, but 2987 02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:08,119 Speaker 4: right now next year's draft class looks abysmal. So if 2988 02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:10,160 Speaker 4: you're a team that's coming into it and you're saying, man, 2989 02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:13,680 Speaker 4: I just don't have the quarterback. I need a quarterback, 2990 02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:17,160 Speaker 4: where else are you going to find one other than 2991 02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:19,920 Speaker 4: looking at you know, if you got the choice between 2992 02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:22,760 Speaker 4: overpaying Dak or continuing to run around with aid and 2993 02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:25,640 Speaker 4: O'Connell or Gardner Minshew, Like that just doesn't feel like 2994 02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:28,480 Speaker 4: that's a recipe for success. If the wheels fall off 2995 02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:31,920 Speaker 4: for cl and Geno stinks, Like, what are you going 2996 02:26:31,959 --> 02:26:34,160 Speaker 4: to do if you can't replace him, so like what. 2997 02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean, but at some point you have to you 2998 02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:42,400 Speaker 2: got to hold your patience and not sell your franchise 2999 02:26:42,680 --> 02:26:46,200 Speaker 2: because you're right, Like, would I rather have Dak or 3000 02:26:46,280 --> 02:26:47,000 Speaker 2: Aid O'Connell. 3001 02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:50,120 Speaker 3: It's not even a question, right or minshew? I mean 3002 02:26:50,120 --> 02:26:50,920 Speaker 3: it's not even close. 3003 02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:55,640 Speaker 2: But the cost and I'm now going to hand my 3004 02:26:56,480 --> 02:27:00,640 Speaker 2: franchise over to him, and I yeah, I don't know. 3005 02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:03,279 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but maybe I can't find my quarterback 3006 02:27:03,320 --> 02:27:04,879 Speaker 2: this year, but maybe I can find him next year. 3007 02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:05,800 Speaker 3: Right. 3008 02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:07,920 Speaker 4: The hardest part about all of that is that even 3009 02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:10,680 Speaker 4: if you're the Cowboys, So let's say the Giants decide 3010 02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:12,160 Speaker 4: they want to make a home run offer to bring 3011 02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:14,920 Speaker 4: in Dak just to just playing here. Right, But again, 3012 02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:17,160 Speaker 4: I'll go back to the Raiders' analogy on this, because 3013 02:27:17,480 --> 02:27:19,920 Speaker 4: the decision not to pay Derek Carr was the right one. 3014 02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:22,600 Speaker 4: I agree with the decision not to pay pay Derek Carr. 3015 02:27:22,959 --> 02:27:24,920 Speaker 4: But what happens when you don't pay Derek Carr? What 3016 02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:27,000 Speaker 4: happens when you just decide to let Derek car go? 3017 02:27:27,560 --> 02:27:29,960 Speaker 4: You end up with Aid no connell and Gardner minshew? Right, 3018 02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:33,320 Speaker 4: what happens if you're the Cowboys how are you replacing 3019 02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:36,320 Speaker 4: the productivity of Dak So you're right, like, at some 3020 02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:40,880 Speaker 4: point cost doesn't support the decision to give that sort 3021 02:27:40,879 --> 02:27:43,000 Speaker 4: of a contract to a player that's not winning a 3022 02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:45,200 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. But the other side of it is, if 3023 02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:47,680 Speaker 4: not him, then who is your answer? Because if you 3024 02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:50,160 Speaker 4: go into the season with no answer to quarterback, you 3025 02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:53,000 Speaker 4: get no respect. You have no concept of being able 3026 02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:54,800 Speaker 4: to win a lot of football games. It's just it 3027 02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:56,680 Speaker 4: is so rare but nothing. 3028 02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:01,280 Speaker 2: That's why for the Cowboys it makes more sense to 3029 02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:04,039 Speaker 2: keep back and just you know, and ride it out 3030 02:28:04,200 --> 02:28:06,480 Speaker 2: and change the coach. I'm not a big believer in 3031 02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:09,240 Speaker 2: the coach either, But if you're a team like the 3032 02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:13,280 Speaker 2: Raiders that's not doesn't have super Bowl expectations, you've got 3033 02:28:13,400 --> 02:28:17,039 Speaker 2: to be careful on your next choice, like you don't 3034 02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:20,720 Speaker 2: want to rush into it and you know, go get 3035 02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:21,720 Speaker 2: James Harden. 3036 02:28:23,440 --> 02:28:24,680 Speaker 1: And that You're totally right. 3037 02:28:24,840 --> 02:28:28,879 Speaker 4: Patience for a bunch of billionaires owners is easier said 3038 02:28:28,959 --> 02:28:31,280 Speaker 4: than done, But you are totally right like that. The 3039 02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:33,840 Speaker 4: problem is it's just so hard to get the quarterback 3040 02:28:33,879 --> 02:28:36,320 Speaker 4: that if somebody has had any success, then you just 3041 02:28:36,400 --> 02:28:39,480 Speaker 4: become desperate, like and I'll gain use the Giants, just 3042 02:28:39,520 --> 02:28:42,600 Speaker 4: because Giants sitting at coming off of six and eleven season, 3043 02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, they have a terrible year this year. Let's 3044 02:28:44,840 --> 02:28:46,520 Speaker 4: say with Daniel Jones, do they want to take the 3045 02:28:46,520 --> 02:28:50,000 Speaker 4: plunge at a quarterback like that? That's the whole Are 3046 02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:52,039 Speaker 4: you going to go take Shade or Sanders and hope 3047 02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:53,880 Speaker 4: that that works out for you? I don't think it will. 3048 02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:56,760 Speaker 4: Like it just gets so difficult when you're stuck in 3049 02:28:56,840 --> 02:28:59,520 Speaker 4: years that don't have great answers at the quarterback positions. 3050 02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:04,760 Speaker 2: That's why you know, being at six, you're you're able 3051 02:29:04,840 --> 02:29:08,080 Speaker 2: to maneuver, but you know, no trades or to be had, 3052 02:29:08,959 --> 02:29:11,160 Speaker 2: and they'd n't force it, and they didn't like any 3053 02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:15,840 Speaker 2: of the other the other quarterbacks, you know, so you 3054 02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:19,520 Speaker 2: know you're sitting there stocking, you drafting the leak neighbors 3055 02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:22,640 Speaker 2: like you know, I mean, I just think that was 3056 02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:23,560 Speaker 2: a wasted pick. 3057 02:29:23,840 --> 02:29:26,640 Speaker 3: I like neighbors. I just again don't think it works 3058 02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:26,959 Speaker 3: for them. 3059 02:29:27,840 --> 02:29:32,680 Speaker 4: I mean, they better hope to hell that JJ McCarthy 3060 02:29:32,840 --> 02:29:34,640 Speaker 4: or Michael Pennick shunr doesn't turn out to be a 3061 02:29:34,680 --> 02:29:38,560 Speaker 4: good quarterback, because that's just gonna lord over the decision 3062 02:29:38,600 --> 02:29:41,160 Speaker 4: making bo Nix any of those guys were available for 3063 02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:44,080 Speaker 4: the Giants and they said no. So now they overpaid 3064 02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:46,840 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, which was some in a weird situation when 3065 02:29:46,879 --> 02:29:48,240 Speaker 4: they tried to figure out what to do with the 3066 02:29:48,320 --> 02:29:51,160 Speaker 4: quarterback position. And now if they don't have any answer 3067 02:29:51,160 --> 02:29:53,960 Speaker 4: at the quarterback position, they could have to overpay again 3068 02:29:54,040 --> 02:29:56,440 Speaker 4: for mediocrity because they didn't take the chance when they 3069 02:29:56,480 --> 02:29:56,680 Speaker 4: had it. 3070 02:29:56,840 --> 02:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Like, that's the dog chasing its own tail if I've 3071 02:29:59,400 --> 02:29:59,880 Speaker 1: ever seen it. 3072 02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:06,680 Speaker 6: Fig well, you see, you know, the definition of insanity 3073 02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:09,119 Speaker 6: technically is not doing the same thing over and over again. 3074 02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:12,160 Speaker 6: But that's what people run with. That's kind of what 3075 02:30:12,320 --> 02:30:13,760 Speaker 6: it is with dak So, like, do you want to 3076 02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:16,080 Speaker 6: be stuck in mediocrity? Are you contend with this being 3077 02:30:16,120 --> 02:30:18,440 Speaker 6: a ten to eleven win regular season team? I can't 3078 02:30:18,560 --> 02:30:21,360 Speaker 6: just pay a guy, you know, gobs of money knowing 3079 02:30:21,440 --> 02:30:24,080 Speaker 6: that he's gonna fall come up short when it matters 3080 02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:27,240 Speaker 6: the most, I really, I know, finding a decent replacement 3081 02:30:27,320 --> 02:30:32,439 Speaker 6: for a solid starting quarterback is difficult, but ultimately the common. 3082 02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:33,879 Speaker 5: Denominator behind the majority of. 3083 02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:37,440 Speaker 6: Their playoff losses has been his shortcomings, among other things, 3084 02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:40,240 Speaker 6: but many of his shortcomings. So if that's the case, 3085 02:30:40,640 --> 02:30:42,400 Speaker 6: Why am I paying this guy upers of sixty million 3086 02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:43,960 Speaker 6: dollars a year to continue to come up short in 3087 02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:44,480 Speaker 6: the playoffs. 3088 02:30:44,920 --> 02:30:46,240 Speaker 5: I would cut bait two. 3089 02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:49,000 Speaker 4: Because the only thing worse than losing in the playoffs 3090 02:30:49,120 --> 02:30:52,080 Speaker 4: is not sniffing them at all. I mean, that's my 3091 02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:54,560 Speaker 4: honest answer to you, is like I understand that, like 3092 02:30:54,680 --> 02:30:56,240 Speaker 4: you have to break through in the playoffs. 3093 02:30:56,280 --> 02:30:58,280 Speaker 1: But hell, there was a period where we sat there 3094 02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:00,880 Speaker 1: for Peyton manning for years win the big Game. 3095 02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, John Elway couldn't win a Super Bowl until suddenly 3096 02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:06,520 Speaker 4: John Elway had a running back, and then it was 3097 02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:07,640 Speaker 4: like he can win a super Bowl. 3098 02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:09,200 Speaker 3: Like I got there. 3099 02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:10,760 Speaker 5: I mean, Jack can't even get out of the first 3100 02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:12,560 Speaker 5: round game. 3101 02:31:12,680 --> 02:31:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but it takes It's a team game, 3102 02:31:15,720 --> 02:31:17,760 Speaker 1: takes more than one player to turn around. 3103 02:31:17,560 --> 02:31:20,080 Speaker 3: And a Brady standing in his way too. 3104 02:31:20,560 --> 02:31:21,280 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 3105 02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:24,680 Speaker 4: But remember when Peyton came into the league, there was 3106 02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:27,760 Speaker 4: even some there were even doubters that said, well, Tennessee 3107 02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:30,680 Speaker 4: couldn't beat Florida. He couldn't find a way to beat Florida. Look, 3108 02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:33,000 Speaker 4: this just repeats the fact that he can't win the 3109 02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:36,200 Speaker 4: big game. Like those were stupid conversations in hindsight, but 3110 02:31:36,320 --> 02:31:38,280 Speaker 4: he had to break through at some point. Dak sure 3111 02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:40,880 Speaker 4: has to break through to be great. But he's so 3112 02:31:41,120 --> 02:31:43,400 Speaker 4: much better than so many of the quarterbacks that are 3113 02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:44,120 Speaker 4: out there right now. 3114 02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:44,680 Speaker 3: And just. 3115 02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not debating on on. You know that 3116 02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:51,920 Speaker 2: he's not better than a lot of quarterbacks out there. 3117 02:31:51,959 --> 02:31:55,360 Speaker 2: But again, I think you like him more than I 3118 02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:59,200 Speaker 2: do in the sense that I also seen when he's bad, 3119 02:31:59,280 --> 02:32:00,320 Speaker 2: he's terrible. 3120 02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:03,040 Speaker 5: And it's like, what's your standard? You're holding them too. 3121 02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:05,160 Speaker 6: I mean, if you're cool with him, but the Handy Dalton, 3122 02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:08,520 Speaker 6: great Anny Dalton won you ten eleven games every year, 3123 02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:09,960 Speaker 6: got you to the playoffs and got you knocked out 3124 02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:11,480 Speaker 6: in the first round for eight straight years or whatever 3125 02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:11,760 Speaker 6: it was. 3126 02:32:11,959 --> 02:32:13,560 Speaker 5: If that's if that works for you, then great. 3127 02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:17,120 Speaker 6: I feel like Cowboys and their fans and Jerry Jones, 3128 02:32:17,440 --> 02:32:19,560 Speaker 6: their standard is a little bit higher and their goals 3129 02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:20,000 Speaker 6: are higher. 3130 02:32:21,120 --> 02:32:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't disagree with any of that. 3131 02:32:23,879 --> 02:32:26,120 Speaker 4: The standards were higher for the Patriots too, and then 3132 02:32:26,120 --> 02:32:28,560 Speaker 4: they found out it's really hard to find another quarterback. 3133 02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:31,360 Speaker 4: The standards were higher for the Steelers too. Then they 3134 02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:33,720 Speaker 4: found out it's really hard to find another quarterback. The 3135 02:32:33,800 --> 02:32:36,640 Speaker 4: standard were hard, were high for the Giants in elone. 3136 02:32:36,680 --> 02:32:39,520 Speaker 4: Then they found out it's really hard to find another quarterback. 3137 02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:43,080 Speaker 4: The standards were high, and they found out it's really. 3138 02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:46,920 Speaker 3: Really like all those teams won super Bowls. 3139 02:32:47,400 --> 02:32:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just saying that talking about the quarterback 3140 02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:53,000 Speaker 4: position specifically, Like yeah, we. 3141 02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:56,720 Speaker 3: All know that, Like you're right, like the quarterback positions everything. 3142 02:32:56,800 --> 02:32:58,160 Speaker 3: I we're right about that. 3143 02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:01,640 Speaker 2: But again, I don't think I don't think you can 3144 02:33:01,720 --> 02:33:05,240 Speaker 2: compare some of those quarterbacks to Dak because they won. 3145 02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:12,080 Speaker 4: Even even if Dak hasn't, Dak gives you proximity that 3146 02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:15,400 Speaker 4: like what we really pay for is proximity. Can can 3147 02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:18,280 Speaker 4: we have a chance and do we have a chance 3148 02:33:18,360 --> 02:33:20,600 Speaker 4: at the super Bowl? Every year when the season starts, 3149 02:33:20,959 --> 02:33:23,400 Speaker 4: Dak gives you that it has not worked in the playoffs. 3150 02:33:23,440 --> 02:33:25,520 Speaker 4: I'm not there's no problem. 3151 02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:26,680 Speaker 3: Here's here's the problem. 3152 02:33:27,120 --> 02:33:29,120 Speaker 2: It's not just it doesn't work in the play Like, 3153 02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, you go to the super Bowl, you got 3154 02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:36,080 Speaker 2: He hasn't gotten to a super Bowl, and he's he's 3155 02:33:36,160 --> 02:33:39,280 Speaker 2: been the reason why they lost. Like he was terrible 3156 02:33:39,320 --> 02:33:42,640 Speaker 2: against San Francisco. Listen, you know, Love threw the ball 3157 02:33:42,720 --> 02:33:45,120 Speaker 2: over them. So their defense was bad, but he was 3158 02:33:45,240 --> 02:33:46,760 Speaker 2: bad too, were a couple. 3159 02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:48,720 Speaker 6: Of years ago against San Francisco is a low scoring game, 3160 02:33:48,760 --> 02:33:50,000 Speaker 6: and he have mistakes towards the end. 3161 02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:54,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, look, he's been the reason they've lost. 3162 02:33:55,080 --> 02:33:58,040 Speaker 2: Whereas you know, there's all the quarterbacks. You can't say 3163 02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:01,000 Speaker 2: that like that's the problem. Like I agree, gives your 3164 02:34:01,040 --> 02:34:04,920 Speaker 2: proximity to ten wins and maybe a division. 3165 02:34:05,800 --> 02:34:08,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, if the argument is, well, all you have 3166 02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:10,520 Speaker 6: to do is make it into the tournament. He keeps 3167 02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:12,800 Speaker 6: giving you a chance every single solitary year, and every 3168 02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:14,680 Speaker 6: time you get in you have a chance to make 3169 02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:19,320 Speaker 6: her run. That's not untrue, I get it, But how 3170 02:34:19,360 --> 02:34:20,800 Speaker 6: many times are you going to suscribe to that? 3171 02:34:21,520 --> 02:34:22,959 Speaker 1: As many times as I can get. 3172 02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if I'm the Cowboys twenty twenty five, 3173 02:34:25,760 --> 02:34:27,480 Speaker 4: I'm not going to have any quarterback that gives me 3174 02:34:27,560 --> 02:34:30,080 Speaker 4: a better chance to the super Bowl than Dak Press. 3175 02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:33,640 Speaker 2: Again, I consider I'm probably I'm with you in this 3176 02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:36,560 Speaker 2: sense that I think Dallas should retain it. But if 3177 02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm the Raiders, I don't want Dak. If I'm the Cowboys, 3178 02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:42,720 Speaker 2: I want Dak because and I want to fix the 3179 02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:45,560 Speaker 2: running back room, and I probably would want to fix. 3180 02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:46,080 Speaker 3: The coach too. 3181 02:34:46,800 --> 02:34:49,119 Speaker 4: If I'm a team that doesn't have an answer quarterback, 3182 02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:50,760 Speaker 4: I don't care. If I got to spend sixty million 3183 02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:52,640 Speaker 4: at one, I don't care. I just want to have 3184 02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:54,360 Speaker 4: a quarterback that can help me win games. 3185 02:34:54,480 --> 02:34:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. I just want to win game. 3186 02:34:56,680 --> 02:34:58,800 Speaker 3: He's got two weeots of soapo disease. 3187 02:34:58,560 --> 02:35:03,360 Speaker 1: Right now, and I was a legend on Madden Pull. 3188 02:35:03,440 --> 02:35:04,400 Speaker 1: You could not beat me with. 3189 02:35:04,720 --> 02:35:12,640 Speaker 2: It to it Fellas back in a minute, Ah, welcome back, 3190 02:35:13,879 --> 02:35:19,800 Speaker 2: Fellas from the tai iraq dot com studios. Jason fitz 3191 02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:24,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargato being and my team my 3192 02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:30,480 Speaker 2: t Mark Producing. It's the crew every Saturday. Help you 3193 02:35:30,879 --> 02:35:35,880 Speaker 2: have a great Memorial Day weekend. Uh, boys, you know 3194 02:35:36,080 --> 02:35:38,400 Speaker 2: that we're going to have to continue the win totals 3195 02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:42,200 Speaker 2: because as suggest as I figured, we would not get 3196 02:35:42,320 --> 02:35:46,400 Speaker 2: through a lion's share of them. In fact, we haven't 3197 02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:49,880 Speaker 2: gotten through the d's yet. Since we're going to that 3198 02:35:50,320 --> 02:35:50,760 Speaker 2: back hole. 3199 02:35:52,959 --> 02:35:54,320 Speaker 1: Do what we're doing God's work here. 3200 02:35:54,320 --> 02:35:56,880 Speaker 4: It's just, you know, it's a slow and arduous process, 3201 02:35:56,920 --> 02:35:58,840 Speaker 4: but we have a long off season to get there. 3202 02:35:59,080 --> 02:36:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean, the Cowboys derailed the whole thing. 3203 02:36:02,480 --> 02:36:03,680 Speaker 5: They have a tendency to do that. 3204 02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:10,960 Speaker 2: They are they are a lot of fun, that they're interesting, 3205 02:36:11,080 --> 02:36:14,760 Speaker 2: that they're a lot of fun to talk about. I 3206 02:36:14,959 --> 02:36:17,840 Speaker 2: was talking about this the other day on my local show, 3207 02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:21,359 Speaker 2: which is you know, they are still. 3208 02:36:22,680 --> 02:36:27,800 Speaker 3: Like America's team. It's amazing, doesn't. 3209 02:36:27,480 --> 02:36:31,959 Speaker 2: Matter failure after failure, dumpster fire, you know, playoff game 3210 02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:34,520 Speaker 2: after dumpster fire, playoff game, and. 3211 02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:38,119 Speaker 3: They still get take up you know, all the oxygen 3212 02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:38,640 Speaker 3: in the room. 3213 02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3214 02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:42,760 Speaker 4: And that's the funny thing is that the schedule makers 3215 02:36:42,840 --> 02:36:45,120 Speaker 4: said that the Chiefs have gotten to the level that 3216 02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:48,440 Speaker 4: they're on the same plane as the Cowboys when it 3217 02:36:48,520 --> 02:36:51,120 Speaker 4: comes to an automatic gimme of everybody wants it and 3218 02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:52,040 Speaker 4: everybody will watch it. 3219 02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:54,640 Speaker 1: Think about what that statement makes from the NFL. 3220 02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:57,160 Speaker 4: That really tells you that the team that has been 3221 02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:59,560 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl for the last five years has 3222 02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:01,720 Speaker 4: finally risen to the point of a team that hasn't 3223 02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:04,840 Speaker 4: sniffed the Super Bowl since I don't know what ninety what, 3224 02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:07,400 Speaker 4: so like, it's just crazy to think about. 3225 02:37:08,440 --> 02:37:13,640 Speaker 3: Hey, the fact that the Chiefs are in that pantheon. 3226 02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:17,520 Speaker 2: Now, you know, God bless Mahomes because he's a huge 3227 02:37:17,600 --> 02:37:19,120 Speaker 2: part of it and then you have the whole pop 3228 02:37:19,160 --> 02:37:21,560 Speaker 2: culture thing with Kelsey and Taylor Swift. 3229 02:37:22,480 --> 02:37:28,959 Speaker 3: But can we say that the Chiefs it's because of Andy. 3230 02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:31,840 Speaker 1: No, it's Mahomes. It's it's Mahomes. 3231 02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:34,720 Speaker 4: The Chiefs are like Golden State at this point, Like everybody, 3232 02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:38,040 Speaker 4: everybody loves Steph Curry. That's Patrick Mahomes, you know, And 3233 02:37:38,320 --> 02:37:39,920 Speaker 4: obviously Kerr gets some of the love. 3234 02:37:40,040 --> 02:37:40,560 Speaker 1: That's Andy. 3235 02:37:40,879 --> 02:37:42,720 Speaker 4: And it will work it as long as they're winning 3236 02:37:42,760 --> 02:37:44,280 Speaker 4: a bunch of games and they have those stars, and 3237 02:37:44,320 --> 02:37:46,960 Speaker 4: then once all of those guys retire, then they'll just 3238 02:37:47,040 --> 02:37:50,320 Speaker 4: go back to being where they were. Like it's fine 3239 02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:53,520 Speaker 4: in the popularity pantheon, but like it's not this is 3240 02:37:53,800 --> 02:37:55,160 Speaker 4: this is Mahomes phenomenon. 3241 02:37:55,320 --> 02:37:58,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like as great as Andy is, he's so understated. 3242 02:37:58,640 --> 02:38:01,600 Speaker 6: I don't know if he, you know, really penetrates into 3243 02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:03,879 Speaker 6: the consciousness of people saying like, oh my god, he's 3244 02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:04,920 Speaker 6: really made a giant impact. 3245 02:38:06,320 --> 02:38:09,360 Speaker 2: I guess I wasn't meaning, you know, he's not on 3246 02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:13,080 Speaker 2: the billboard, right Like, if the Chiefs are the billboard 3247 02:38:13,120 --> 02:38:16,560 Speaker 2: at the top of the marquee, it's not saying Andy Reid, 3248 02:38:16,720 --> 02:38:19,560 Speaker 2: it's saying Patrick Mahomes. Absolutely, I agree with you, guys. 3249 02:38:21,040 --> 02:38:26,600 Speaker 2: I guess it points to his greatness that he got 3250 02:38:26,680 --> 02:38:30,519 Speaker 2: him there, like he's the one who provided the foundation 3251 02:38:30,800 --> 02:38:35,600 Speaker 2: for that. Unlike Yeah, I mean Belichick was a bigger 3252 02:38:36,560 --> 02:38:40,360 Speaker 2: he was almost this Darth Vader character, right, and he's not. 3253 02:38:40,840 --> 02:38:43,040 Speaker 2: But Andy is every bit of effective. 3254 02:38:43,160 --> 02:38:43,320 Speaker 3: Right. 3255 02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:46,280 Speaker 4: It frustrates the hell out of me, and it has 3256 02:38:46,360 --> 02:38:49,879 Speaker 4: for years that everybody talks only about Mahomes in a vacuum. 3257 02:38:49,959 --> 02:38:52,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes it forgets this isn't just the best quarterback in 3258 02:38:52,560 --> 02:38:54,880 Speaker 4: the NFL right now. This is the best quarterback and 3259 02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:56,360 Speaker 4: clearly the best coach as. 3260 02:38:56,280 --> 02:38:58,120 Speaker 1: A combination working together. 3261 02:38:58,280 --> 02:39:00,320 Speaker 4: But I don't think Mahomes would be where he is 3262 02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:03,600 Speaker 4: if it wasn't for Kansas City, if it wasn't for 3263 02:39:03,920 --> 02:39:06,520 Speaker 4: Andy Reid, if it wasn't for the situation they put 3264 02:39:06,600 --> 02:39:08,320 Speaker 4: him in, and the way that they've tailored this, Like. 3265 02:39:08,600 --> 02:39:11,040 Speaker 1: You can have a great quarterback and still blow it. 3266 02:39:11,120 --> 02:39:12,600 Speaker 4: Look at what the Jacks are trying to do to 3267 02:39:12,640 --> 02:39:15,680 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence over the course of time. I think the 3268 02:39:15,920 --> 02:39:18,320 Speaker 4: undertold part of the story of the greatness of Patrick 3269 02:39:18,360 --> 02:39:22,120 Speaker 4: Mahomes and Kansas City is always that Andy Reid is 3270 02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:26,000 Speaker 4: absolutely him and that is that as true in this league. 3271 02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:28,360 Speaker 6: Now, yeah, let's not forget that Patrick Mahomes walked into 3272 02:39:28,400 --> 02:39:30,520 Speaker 6: a team that made the playoffs the year before they 3273 02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:32,680 Speaker 6: traded up to get him there. They were going to 3274 02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:35,680 Speaker 6: the postseason routinely with Alex Smith as their quarterback, so 3275 02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:37,440 Speaker 6: this was not a full on rebuild with a top 3276 02:39:37,520 --> 02:39:38,680 Speaker 6: overall pick at quarterback. 3277 02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:42,480 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and he built that infrastructure before Pat got there. 3278 02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Now, you're right, you're right. Uh so, boys, 3279 02:39:49,400 --> 02:39:51,000 Speaker 2: we're up against it. But I'm going to answer you. 3280 02:39:51,040 --> 02:39:52,720 Speaker 2: What are we watching, which. 3281 02:39:52,600 --> 02:39:55,359 Speaker 5: We always do this point, watching hoops playoffs? 3282 02:39:55,800 --> 02:39:58,800 Speaker 1: You're watching boiler Stars. Oilers are like y'all. 3283 02:39:58,879 --> 02:40:00,520 Speaker 4: I know we don't talk about it, but Stanley Cup 3284 02:40:00,560 --> 02:40:02,439 Speaker 4: playoffs have been absolutely incredible. 3285 02:40:02,800 --> 02:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Oil is Stars. There is going to be an epics. 3286 02:40:04,400 --> 02:40:04,520 Speaker 3: Sit. 3287 02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need more hockey, and you know why, you're 3288 02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:10,640 Speaker 2: right about that. We need to talk more hockey. I'm 3289 02:40:10,680 --> 02:40:13,720 Speaker 2: not Rangers. The Panthers game last night was ridiculous. 3290 02:40:14,160 --> 02:40:17,400 Speaker 1: It's great. Absolutely, No, No, you're. 3291 02:40:17,360 --> 02:40:19,360 Speaker 3: No, you're listen. I love it. I just you know, 3292 02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:22,360 Speaker 3: I keep I keep it to the to the other 3293 02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:26,520 Speaker 3: rung for but I love it. I love it. 3294 02:40:26,680 --> 02:40:29,879 Speaker 2: All right, have a great weekend, everybody. We love you guys. 3295 02:40:29,959 --> 02:40:32,280 Speaker 2: Be safe, we'll see you next week. Fellas are out.