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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? It is Friday at the cover four

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Speaker 1: Podcasts with Jesse Holly Dave Helmett. I'm Taylor starting Lindsey

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Speaker 1: Draper can't do with this today, but we'll miss her well, missr.

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Speaker 1: Dave's gonna sit in her suit to pretend to be

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Speaker 1: like her. Hey, guys, are you gonna check periscope for

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Speaker 1: us too? For questions? I'll read periscope for some nugs,

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Speaker 1: for some little nugs, for some nugs. Jesse's got the

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Speaker 1: moves this morning? What is that Fortnite dance? How do

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Speaker 1: kids be doing? What is that? I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to do that. I like to think of myself as

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Speaker 1: a young man, but I have never played Fortnite. I

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Speaker 1: haven't either, I don't know anything about don't even own

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Speaker 1: a gaming system. I don't either. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think Taylor's like, why are we talking

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Speaker 1: about this? No? I mean people when I was on

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Speaker 1: the podcast and your people would literally call in and

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Speaker 1: they'd be like, like, hey, I played Cowboys Jags this

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Speaker 1: week on Madden and I saw, like, guys, if you

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Speaker 1: if you throw it up to Rico, oh, that will

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Speaker 1: actually be the key to this game. I don't know anything,

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Speaker 1: but I am a coach. Basically, I coached my son's

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Speaker 1: you know, yeahhole team, throw it, throw the seam route

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Speaker 1: against cover two. It works every time. It is true.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's like people literally, So I would always

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Speaker 1: be like I don't want to be like that. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to because I feel like I would be

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Speaker 1: that person to be like. Guys, guys, guys, I know

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Speaker 1: the truth here. This is how you do judging by

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Speaker 1: how absurdly into your fantasy football team you are. That's

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Speaker 1: probably true. I know myself, so I'm just preventing that.

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Speaker 1: But somebody that we need to talk about because I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to think or say or do anything

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Speaker 1: is the man Odell Beckham junior. Last night football, they

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Speaker 1: got I don't want to say embarrassed because that sounds harsh,

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Speaker 1: but they just got dominated by the Eagles again. Embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: Embarrassed that's a good word. That's a good I would

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Speaker 1: go with embarrassed. You think, yeah, yeah, no that that

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Speaker 1: listen when you when you that that offense is bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: outside of Sequon Barkley, who was magnificent, but Eli is terrible.

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Speaker 1: He's trash man. He is absolutely. Why why all the time?

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Speaker 1: He's thirty seven years old, He's gotten decked ten million

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Speaker 1: times in the last four years, never missed a game

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Speaker 1: the Jet well until day sat him. Yeah, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's an iron man for sure. And I

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Speaker 1: would probably put Eli in the Hall of Fame when

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Speaker 1: it's all said and done. I know that's a controversial

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Speaker 1: He does not He doesn't make good decisions, doesn't get

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Speaker 1: the ball. There. Who's behind him, Tenny? Is that Alex

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Speaker 1: Tanney's there? I know? Yeah, they got they got rid

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Speaker 1: of Davis Webb and they um they had another guy?

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Speaker 1: Who'd they get rid of? What's what was the other guy? Tweet?

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Speaker 1: Smith was with the Jets. No, but and he was

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Speaker 1: with the Giants. Was they beached him last year for Gino? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What a weird I don't know which I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't Tandy's on the team. I was joking about this

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Speaker 1: last night, but like you know, everybody, including me, killed

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Speaker 1: the Giants for being too and not taking a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like ohs, running backs not going to save you. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe they knew that because they're headed for another top

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Speaker 1: They're like, you want to see a stack team, We'll

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Speaker 1: go ahead and stack this team up. They are going

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Speaker 1: is the locker room going to be destroyed because it's

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Speaker 1: And I know what people think about the Cowboys locker room,

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Speaker 1: and you know that being in it, and Dave, you've

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Speaker 1: seen it all. But you've seen it all, big fella.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, just watching that, you're like, what is

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Speaker 1: He's just blowing up, leaving into the locker room early

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Speaker 1: But punches you in the face now, I'd be like, yes, please, Odell,

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Speaker 1: You know. You put it all this time, all this

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Speaker 1: And that position, the receiver position, is one of the

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Speaker 1: you're an NFL wide receiver, you've probably been a badass

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Speaker 1: you kind of gotta like the spotlight. You gotta like it.

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Speaker 1: Tension you do. And then after that and then when

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Speaker 1: what was what was his contract? Where I'd be like

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Speaker 1: but like you're seeing that with Alan Herns and Cole

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Speaker 1: like and that's Dez Bryant got so mad at Josh

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Speaker 1: they were like, well, man, this is happening and someone

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00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: soon saying this about me and this is not working well,

422
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: isn't it? And you go you watch that store and

423
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: you go, what the hell am I complaining about? Yeah?

424
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 1: What what are we doing? Throw me the ball more?

425
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: Even just yeah, I mean typical bs, like especially like

426
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: working here and just don't just being upset by the

427
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: dumb rigamarole of life, like the restaurant I tried to

428
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: eat dinner ad on Tuesday, was closed. I was like,

429
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: hell sucks, it's so hard that I can do that.

430
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I just want to see when Des did have that

431
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 1: crazy locker room explosion, and you know, it was like

432
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 1: everywhere on television, and I remember I'd never seen something

433
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: like that, like someone be so explosive and people just silent.

434
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: And I remember I called my mom after work and

435
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: it's like, Mom, you'll never guess what happened today, Like

436
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: Des Bryant was so upset. He was like fighting with

437
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: a reporter and she's like, why is he mad? He's

438
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: got lots of money. Like yeah, She's like, what about

439
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, the passion of the game, Mom,

440
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: you don't understand. You don't get this life. Ball is life.

441
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: That's I mean, you know you hear people. It's like

442
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: when you're losing, people are like, oh man, I miss

443
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: miss high school football when it was just about the game,

444
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: which like yeah, but there's a lot of money at

445
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: stake here, so people get mad when it doesn't go

446
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: the right way. The funny part about, like I guess

447
00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: it's anywhere, but specifically here in Dallas. Locally, fans think,

448
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: especially when you're losing, they think nothing else in life

449
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: is supposed to go on from you yep like yep,

450
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: Like like literally, losing means I can't go to Walmart

451
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: like I've I've had people when I was playing. I

452
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: would be like in the Walmart and I'm like, what

453
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: are you doing in here? Man? I'm like getting milk.

454
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: I needed like bread right out of tailet wipes. Yeah.

455
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: You Like, They're like, well, you should be watching film.

456
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, did that for about three hours a day?

457
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: How much more film do you want me to watch? Like?

458
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: I can only watch a certain amount of film, but

459
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: you know, hey can I They don't want you to

460
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: go to a movie. You can't go to the grocery

461
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: store kicking an oil chains like nothing functions if you're

462
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: losing in the DFW area if you're a cowboy. Yeah,

463
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: like Jordan Lewis earlier this week when he said, like

464
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna pull up to people's office, pull up at

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Speaker 1: your death job. And imagine Dave. If Jordan just decided

466
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna pick on Dave helm In today and

467
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: he comes up to your desk and he's like, deserve it?

468
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: What articles have you written today? Where's your column? I mean,

469
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: I know, like you forgot the come on those guys

470
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: know where I work? Maybe that Like I hope it doesn't,

471
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: but that would be funny if they did pull up.

472
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: How can we do? But like could you handle it

473
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: like five days in a row? I wouldn't want to.

474
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really want to find out

475
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: that would We should do? That should be a piece

476
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: of social content, like we should do like Hayten with

477
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: Jay Lou and just like bring him places like yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: I think he even said I was ready to say

479
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: about now, but he's no. He said he was like

480
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up at McDonald's and tell you to

481
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Speaker 1: kill yourself because you didn't give me night chicken nuggets

482
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, I don't know, but you

483
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: get the gist. But no, I'm say like we should

484
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: we literally that should we should find a way how

485
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: to make that some sort of something that we do

486
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: like the Cover four or something where we find people

487
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: who tweet cowboys, athletes, find them like like find them

488
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Speaker 1: on social media like, hey, this is this is David Hellma,

489
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Speaker 1: this is Jesse Holley's is Taylor Stern. We work for

490
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: Cover four. Hey what do you work at? We want

491
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: to come and bring so and so there to kind

492
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: of do what you have them do to you, what

493
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: you've done to them. Your TPS report is trash, Greg, right,

494
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: it's trash. So that would sign up for that though,

495
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Oh a ton of people to just but it would

496
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: be like in Jess where they like really take it seriously.

497
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: A ton of people, like, a ton of people would

498
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: sign up for that. Pay If you can make it happen,

499
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. If you get the player, I'll

500
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: do the rest. Get a player to agree to it,

501
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna find all the tweets, get a player.

502
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: If you get a player to agree to it, I'll

503
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Speaker 1: do the rest. If who should we ask Jordan? I

504
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: mean one hundred percent it should be Jordan. He came

505
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: up with the idea. All right, that would be so funny,

506
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, no, okay, no, I knew I didn't

507
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: make this up, which I mean, okay, it's morbid, but

508
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: it's funny. Some guys like it comes with the territory

509
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: of being in the entertainment business. In your line in

510
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: your line of work, you get paid to perform. If

511
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: you perform well, you get praised and glories. If you underperform,

512
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: you get critiqued and criticized, and Jordan goes, bet, next

513
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: time my fries are sagi at Mickey D's, I'm gonna

514
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: tell him to kill them, which like, but I get

515
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: his point because that's the type of horrible stuff people

516
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: pay applause say to athletes all the time. One thing

517
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: to I mean, if you want to take a job

518
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: at a guy on Twitter, that's kind of what it's

519
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: there for. But like, tone it down. It doesn't have

520
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: to be that serious, but it is all the time.

521
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: I like, all the time, Like people talk about, like

522
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: the nineties cowboys that their social media, and they're more

523
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: talking about like what they would be sharing on social media.

524
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: But there's also that opposite effect, like these players now

525
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: have to adapt to a different type of fan voice

526
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: that they've never had before. I mean, anybody can reach

527
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: you now, like literally anybody in this world can comment

528
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: on your photo and say something that's either negative or positive,

529
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: especially when you're in this fragile state as an athlete

530
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: who's you know, whole day is consumed by wanting to

531
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: be the best, right and so you know, back in

532
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: the nineties, could you imagine if Michael Irvin's getting on

533
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Twitter because he probably knew there were some deals to

534
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: be made. There money to be made, and you get

535
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: on and people are just going in. He's I bet

536
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: his tweets would be lit. He would be does he

537
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: would know? He would man, he was surpasses Well, no,

538
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: it would be yeah, no, no. The thing that he

539
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: would say back, Michael wouldn't have Michael back then would

540
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: have had zero filter. Yeah, zero, he barely has one now.

541
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: I know, man, when we played those cold weather games,

542
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: we was cold, it was cold, we was cold. But

543
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: Michael Nate Knewton would have been funny. Uh Dion would

544
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: have been funny in his prime. Charles Haley, Oh god, Yeah,

545
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: it's for the best. It's for the best that those

546
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: guys didn't have cell phones, I know. But then you

547
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: have to give these guys credit for the fact that

548
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: they're adapting to that. Who are players right now? Yeah?

549
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely no. I people say terrible stuff to me, like

550
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: half of one percent as often as they do those guys,

551
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: and like that's not fun. So I can't even imagine

552
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: getting it all day every day. I know it's awful.

553
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: I get like, I'll get like four tweeps that are

554
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: like you did amazing today, loved the show, You're so great,

555
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: And I'll get one that's like bad look today, and

556
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: I'll didn't didn't like the hair, yeah, and she sends

557
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: it to me and Lindsey like what the hell you

558
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: do that? And does hell, yeah, it sucks. I don't

559
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: like it when people it's crazy that like, and we

560
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: all come from different places in different backgrounds, like none

561
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: of that stuff bothers me, Like it doesn't. I don't know,

562
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: like if you like at the fan, like did we

563
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: have like the text thing up? And if you would

564
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: see the things that people text in and say about you,

565
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: like literally it is nice. Oh they I mean they

566
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: say some nasty stuff. And I'm like, I'm laughing because

567
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: they'll say you suck. I hate listening to you. But

568
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: they'll say it for an hour and I go, you're

569
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: still listening, like you said you said I sucked for

570
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: an hour, but you never turned the station. They're tolos, Jesse.

571
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: They turn it on and leave it on. That's what.

572
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: No matter what, right, no matter what. Um, my sister's

573
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: new song came out today, so I'll send it to you, Jesse.

574
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: Is it. I didn't know that my sister was really

575
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: related to me, he truly did not believe that a

576
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: nice little free pub for all, Alex Stern. I didn't.

577
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, because there's a there's a girl on Twitter

578
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: right now her literally her name is Jesse Holly. I

579
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: thought she was fake, but her real name, like she

580
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: showed me her id her real name is j E

581
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: S s I E H L l E. Why no, Um,

582
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: but the paperwork wouldn't be heard at all. Yeah, Um,

583
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: so I didn't you know people in Stern line like

584
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: a difficult last name, like your name was like Snido Meyer,

585
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if that's but I didn't think

586
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: that's sure. Stern's a pretty common name. I guess. I

587
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: looked at her pictures. There was there was zero like

588
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: family pictures on her like nothing not on Twitter. Bro,

589
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I have his Twitter. Yeah, well, all you show you

590
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: my phone? I was gonna say, like, just all you

591
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: need is to bring it up once and Taylor, I'll

592
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: show you like every childhood picture. Well good, I can

593
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: do that in literally ten seconds. Because we're out of time.

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00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: We missed you, Lynn. We'll have her back next Friday. Yeah,

595
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: we missed her, we did, we did, we did, Thank

596
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you Jesse Dave We'll be back Monday through Thursday for

597
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: a regular cover four five thirty pm. Thanks Ken Garrison

598
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Speaker 1: for the production