1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. My 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: name is Blew alongside of me or the world famous 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers in Law and Mr well known Joe grand 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, have an amazing show for you 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: guys today. And I just want to tell you, guys, 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: with all this stuff going on in the world of 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: elections and everything, having just an amazing time. It's awesome 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: to have Mr Donald Trump in office. Againshole. Wait, it's 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: awesome to have and we are we are taping this 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: during election day or the day after election day, so 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: the results are not known at this minute, said them both. 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: I said, let's go Joe Biden, let's go Donald Trump. 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: I guess we can. I guess we can edit out 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: the one right. That's what I was hoping to do, really, 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean I was trying to use that. Well. I 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: just hope everybody voted, you know, voted for I mean whatever, 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: but as long as you exercise your rights and uh 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: and voted, well, it's important. A lot of people, you know, 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: say that, you know, your vote doesn't count, or what 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: why should I vote? It doesn't matter? You know. You 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: see some of the races are pretty tight races votes 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: votes out of millions. I mean that's yeah, they're tighter 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: than Blue shirt. That's close stuff. Yeah. And not only that, 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: those people who think it doesn't matter to vote this. 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: You know what, you're living in a tree and you 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: have a rockhead. You're a bone head. And if you're 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: one of those people, I'm sorry to call you out, 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: but that's what you are. You forget the presidency? What's 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 1: going on with all the cannabis votes? One you guys 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: it was green. You're gonna break it all down for us. 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean talking about people stepping up and 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: getting out and voting in all these different states is 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: a testament to uh, people who smoke weed all over 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: the goddamn country. I mean, we've got we've got five 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: new states that legalized to some degree cannabis. We've got Arizona, Mississippi, Montana, 39 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: New Jersey which everybody knew that was gonna go. And 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: South Dakota, traditionally very conservative red state. If you look 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: at it on the election map, I'm sure it's completely red. 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: So cannabis is You're right, it's you know, green one. 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: There is no red or blue when it comes to 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: cannabis these days. Out of those states, New Jersey, Arizona, Montana, 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: and South Dakota became the twelve and fifteenth state in 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: the country legalized recreational not medical recreation. We have fifteen states. 47 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: There was a sweet here right before the election from 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: a Louisiana Democratic congressional candidate. I don't know if you 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: want or not today, Ryan Trundle. He said, marijuana is 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: now legal for medical use or fully legal in all 51 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: all but eight states. Time for Congress to finally pass 52 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: the Marijuana Opportunity Investment Act and the States Act. And 53 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: now we can say, two days after this tweet, all 54 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: but three states. Whoa three states? All but three? It's Nebraska. 55 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: What are the other Nebraska? I'm thinking North Dakota, Nebraska, 56 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: North Dakota, and I think Texas, the Texas Texas. Texas 57 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have because Utah went legal a year or so ago. 58 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Medical didn't do it. I mean, I know, I go 59 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: big red, big corn Huskers there, but come on, the 60 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: vote was there for you Nebraska. Well it didn't either, 61 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: get it. It was I don't think there was an 62 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: initiative on the ballot to vote for. Remember, remember one 63 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: of the states were doing it, Joe, you covered. So 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: it was Nebraska, Arizona and somewhere Jersey and Jersey, Arizona, 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: mississist Montana. Your bet was Nebraska. Well I was hoping, ye. 66 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Just remember that. But you know the crazy the crazy 67 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: thing is they're looking with these five new states to 68 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: generate more than two and a half billion dollars medical 69 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: and a recreational which we hate to say it's really 70 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: adult used, but they all use recreational sales. By now, 71 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: I hope they do that responsibly, initiated the taxes responsibly 72 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: and reasonably. It used to be eleven, and we should 73 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: run our mouth eleven states, you know, strong, strong eleven. 74 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Now we can fully go. You guys, there's only three 75 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: states that don't allow cannabis across state lines. The cats 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: definitely right, that's right, you know. But I think I 77 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: think I'm outer next though, guys, So so we we've 78 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: we've all wanted next the federal the federal play not 79 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: with McConnell. One another six doesn't. It's gonna be interesting 80 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to have that many states who have legalized in one 81 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: fashion or another. For it doesn't matter which way the 82 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: Senate goes red or blue. It shouldn't matter if the 83 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: states it's it's that much of a majority of the states, 84 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna you know, there's I believe there's more elections 85 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: in two years for the House of Representatives, and it's 86 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: every every two years for those guys, I believe, and 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in trouble. And states who uh who 88 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: voted predominantly for you know, cannabis in one form another, 89 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get booted. Well, I think I 90 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: think that the beauty is is that is like you said, 91 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: it's three states guys that that are not so you know, 92 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: once you have all fifty states or whatever completely you 93 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: know on board, you're now looking at the world's going God, Feds, 94 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Oh? You think that would 95 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: be logical? Right, It's gonna have to be logical because 96 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: it has to happen. It's not. You can't. You can't 97 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: just play possum on the whole world forever. They're gonna 98 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: they're doing it for what and that Mitch the Bitch 99 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: isn't gonna be there forever either way. No, either way though, 100 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: even if he went, if he's here for six, which 101 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: he is, Okay, that's great, doesn't mean he can stay strong. 102 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: He's a flip flopper. He's gonna flip and he's gonna flop. 103 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: I hope you're right, Blue, I wish. I actually hope 104 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: you're right that they do that. But I mean it is. 105 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: It is momentous day when we have five states actually 106 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: their citizens vote on wanting and stopping the prohibition of cannabis. 107 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: Can you hear it? Can you hear it? Right? Well? Unfortunate. 108 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I hope the politicians don't look at it that way 109 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: anymore and look at it as a as people need 110 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: to have their medicine. People need to have another form 111 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: of relaxation. Whether you call it medicine or not, it's all. 112 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: It's medicine, no matter when you take it, whether you 113 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: have a reck or not. And it should be taxed 114 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: like any other product. Well, it should be taxed like 115 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: any other products, but tax like like like Norko's like 116 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: like they're not taxed. No, No, I know, that's what 117 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Pharmaceuticals aren't taxed, shouldn't be taxed like them, Yes, 118 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: it should. Medicine, I know they're not. That's what I'm saying. 119 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be taxed. I mean at a minimum, like 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: alcohol and wine. I mean it's not it's not alcohol 121 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: or wine. I mean medical analogy. It's medicine, and especially 122 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: if you have your medical card, then it shouldn't be 123 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: taxed for you as your medical And a lot of 124 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: people decided to stay when we went through the split 125 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: of California, saying half of us are gonna go medical, 126 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: half of us are gonna go recreational. Because I'm gonna 127 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: stay medical because I think it's the bigger boom, and 128 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go recreation, or don't used because I thought 129 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: it was the bigger boom. And you have these you 130 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: could be both. So the so the guy that stays 131 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: medical shouldn't have to for the medical purposes pay taxes. 132 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: It's it's it's medication on all the other medicine. And 133 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: just to be clear on these states, you guys, it's 134 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: um Actually, Idaho is the other state that has no 135 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: type of legalization whatsoever. Nebraska and Kansas, Kansas, So those 136 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: are the three states that are nothing to do with 137 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: North Dakota went medical. But the great part about that, 138 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: all that being said, you guys, so now our new 139 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: dialogue out of our mouths are the only three states 140 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: that do not allow any sort of cannabis for patients 141 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: are recreational are Idaho, Nebraska, and Canadas. And you know 142 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: it's not legal federally. What's gonna happen is all those 143 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: people in Kansas are gonna leave and go, I'm out 144 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: of Kansas. We're not in Kansas anymore. They're not in 145 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Kansas anymore. That's what they'll be able to get their stuff. 146 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just funny that Nebraska and Kansas share 147 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: a huge state line together, so they're just kind are 148 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: waiting on each other, which is ridiculous. Well, I think 149 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a common denominator here, right. The 150 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: whole world has decided that there's something positive about cannabis. 151 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: And not only are we going to legalize it, we're 152 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna start using it more. We're gonna put it into 153 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: our into our society. We're gonna create a full industry 154 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: around it. This is not something that has just came 155 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: out and we decided hey, uh, you know, we're gonna 156 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: kind of test drive it, you know, which this ten 157 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: years ago we would be saying that, you know, hey, 158 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of starting to come out the bag. But 159 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: we've been a part of this community for that whole 160 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: entire time, and now we finally are seeing it hit 161 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: the industry. And so with that being said, it's Cannabis 162 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. We'll be right back after this break. 163 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: Oh that was a great fucking point, though, Dog, you 164 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: got me plug going, why the funk are they charging 165 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: people Texas? Well, you know what, since we're back, you know, listen, 166 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: let's just go straight into it. Is it? I mean, 167 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: is it is it righteous for the world to be 168 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: charging anybody for notch tax on on a medicine that's 169 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: been proven by our government that's medicinal. No. No. The 170 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: worst is though, is that they're using the excuse Is 171 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: there a lawsuit there? Well, no, no, there's not because 172 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: it's legislatives. So no. But what's happening, you know, what's 173 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: happening is the government has the right to tax. Period. 174 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: You gotta revolt in, gotta have a Boston tea party 175 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: over high taxation without representation. That's what you need. So 176 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean. The problem is, though, is that they use 177 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: it as an excuse the older guard which whatever. I guess. However, 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: they get there to say, yeah, I'm for medical cannabis, 179 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: which is the vast majority of the states have allowed cannabis, 180 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: is medical cannabis. Yet they turn around, they call him medicine, 181 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: and they turn around and they slap it with excise 182 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: fucking taxes. Pent here in California, which is really big, 183 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: they call it an excise tax, but it's really a 184 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: sin s I and a syntax and a sin as well. 185 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys this because I can't figure 186 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: out the difference. Like Texas, for instance, right Texas only 187 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: allows CBD low THHC program, but like Oklahoma and different 188 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: states like that are offering the comprehensive medical cannabis program. 189 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: But yet California, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, several other states 190 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: of course adults and medical use regulated program. Why wouldn't 191 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: these states that are doing this comprehensive medical cannabis program, 192 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: like the Utahs and you know, Oklahoma's things like this 193 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: New Mexico, why wouldn't they just go comprehensive medical cannabis 194 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: program and adults. Why why, I don't know, I don't 195 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: know what comprehensive medical program actually what you mean, because 196 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: it's like they're using the medical form of it. Right. 197 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: So there's about four or five different ways that the 198 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: green light. When I say green light, meaning like California 199 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: is adult in medical use regulated program. Now they have 200 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: another like um, the the other one which is a 201 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: green One reason the reason they only the reason they 202 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: only go medical Joe, is because they can justify it. Period. 203 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: They can just publican will vote on it if it's medical. 204 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, it just it's it's a lot of people 205 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: who might not otherwise agree with it can now go well, 206 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: it's not really, you know, a bad drug. It's actually 207 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: people we hear people are you know, getting better. It does. 208 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Epilepsy helps uh, you know people when they go into uh, 209 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: epileptic seizures. And even though I don't want it, you 210 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: know what, maybe I shouldn't be against it. But when 211 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: you go straight into recreational, then it's like, oh, another 212 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: bad hard drug on the corner you can get somewhere else. Now, 213 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: that is how people think. So that's why that recreational 214 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: term just adds to that instead of adult use. But 215 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: it's easier for them to push the medical to those, 216 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: like my brother said, to those people who who have 217 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: reservations about it to begin lawmakers, mainly because they're the 218 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: ones who make it up. It's funny because I just 219 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: found a map right now online that they just had 220 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: to create as a today because you know, as we 221 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: said earlier, we're broadcasting right now, we're recording to this 222 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: on the fourth of November, and you know, all this 223 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: just passed last night for us as we're broadcasting, and 224 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: for all these things to be out, it's crazy to 225 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: look at and be like, hmm, literally only three states 226 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: with no cannabis access, but yet they can still get 227 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: CBD there and then we'll worst than that than that. 228 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: In my opinion, guys, is there's people being criminalized in 229 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: those states. So you're telling me that that that the world, 230 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, I mean United States, our world is is 231 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: decided that we're gonna go ahead and and and legalize 232 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: this in every single freaking state, but three of you 233 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: guys decide not to, and you guys are criminalizing people today. 234 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: There's people being arrested today here in California too. But 235 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean Jesus, these guys are smoking a joint right now. 236 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Craig Will went down for three years, five years, And 237 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: the worst part of that is that those guys are 238 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: gonna smoke that joint, go to jail for five freaking 239 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: years and then and then the law is gonna change 240 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: on them, and they're not gonna kick them out. They're 241 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna keep them in there for more tax purposes. You 242 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: mentioned the people voted, The people have spoke. And to 243 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: think about the money you said two billion from those 244 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: other four states that just added came out. I got 245 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: a good go green story for you guys. Reports shows 246 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: legal US cannabis market at thirty five billion by so 247 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: you're talking to to four billion on those you know, 248 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: four states that just came aboard. We're looking at the 249 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: other states that are out there. They're estimating thirty five 250 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: billion dollars within the next few years, according to a 251 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: new report. Cannabis Data Analytics and Business Intelligence Firm is 252 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: reporting this. Now, you guys, this isn't And here's what's 253 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: crazy about saying thirty five billion. That's still not including 254 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the black market where we're in California and the black 255 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: market is making billions of dollars not You know what funny? 256 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Just think about us sitting in the boardroom a big 257 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: corporation and you give me this information and say, you 258 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: know what, we need to get in on this somehow 259 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: or another. It's a big industry. Let's you know, figured out, 260 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: map it out. We're a big corporation. And you tell 261 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: me these numbers, these vast numbers, And I say, yeah, now, 262 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't think so. I really don't get it. 263 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: I really don't get it. I mean you'd be I'd 264 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: be fired, right, dude, ready for this? The illicit market? 265 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: You know what they according to a new Frontier data 266 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: nineteen it said it made sixties six billions closed. That's 267 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: a big number. We never should have closed those. We 268 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: could still be running. We have people getting busted in 269 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: California and a lot not making a lot of Yeah, 270 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean we get we get cases with raids all 271 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: the time. But there's for every every shop that gets rated, 272 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: there's probably a hundred of them, if not a thousand 273 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: of them that don't well and the opening up the 274 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: next day. Still it's still happening to sometimes sometimes that's 275 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: the same place. You know. I'll tell you what, I'll 276 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: tell you what. Listen, the the illegal market or the 277 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: illicit market is not going anywhere. No, it will go 278 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: away at some point it will. But here here's the 279 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: two things. How long that'll be? Two days that have 280 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: to happen. Some of the best quality in the world 281 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: is being produced in people's houses. Why because the quality 282 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: that you can give one plant and pay attention to 283 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: one plant versus a massive grow is night and day. 284 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: I can sit down if you're growing a good batch. No, 285 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: why would like your from you allowing you to get 286 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: into the market as a small grower like that without 287 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: having to have some big as cultivation. Well, they won't 288 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: do that, but so but so square feet or less. 289 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Eventually it'll be they'll be the craft breweries that can 290 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: have that. No, for cannabis have that. No, I know 291 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: they do, But but I'm saying not in your backyard, 292 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: and it's not out of your house right right now? 293 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: You can You can't five foot or left business. No, 294 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't do it at home. But you 295 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: can make a decent brew at your house. But it's 296 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be the same like making a good cannabis 297 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: at your house. It's kind of it's just different, right, 298 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you can put together some good malt or whatever, 299 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: or you make some good hard I think Blue would 300 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: be would agree with me. You can do it. You 301 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: can grow something chick ass at your house. That's what 302 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying that. But not but not but 303 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: not alcohol necessarily is what you're saying. You're not gonna 304 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: grow as much. You're not going to create a great 305 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: alcohol where your neighbors all, hey, do you let me 306 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: buy some of that off? There's still moonshine. Don't get 307 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: me wrong. My point you can. It's not like you 308 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: growing something like Mark or Craig. You know you Craig 309 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: you've got in your backyard allegedly back in the day. 310 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Of course Blue you know you grew up with it. 311 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: At my point is you guys can grow something amazing, 312 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: and you know you can. So therefore, if you have 313 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: you know, your six plants and you're making you know, 314 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: eighty pounds, it should be. It should be free market period, 315 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: free market capitalism and its finest. Everybody who wants to 316 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: get into try. In this report, it says the highest 317 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: concentration traded to cannabis consumers are in certain counties. I 318 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: want you guys to try to guess what these one, two, three, 319 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: or four five different counties they say are the highest 320 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: concentrated consumer use of cannabis. Where do you guys think 321 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: those are in in California? California is not one of 322 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: the top five. I was you said counties. That's what 323 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you. It's its Colorado, Oregon, Washington, 324 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: d C. Sounds like states, Yeah, not counties. You asked 325 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: as counties, Johones. Everybody like he say counties and someone 326 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: say California. No, I said no, you mightn't might have 327 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: cut me off. I said, in California county? Which states? 328 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: You're the highest consuming? States? Colorado, Oregon, Washington, d C? 329 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: And Vermont. When did we're we're did California to New 330 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Frontier data? Can you see that new It was California 331 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: not on there. I mean me alone, I take all 332 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: of California. I wish. That's why I'm sharing this with you, 333 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: because I'm shocked that I read this quad should we 334 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: should dispute it how they had What was that basic 335 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: those numbers? Yeah, Joe, what was that based on? What's 336 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: the study? Well, the the it was it was according 337 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: to New Frontier Data. So New Frontier Data did some 338 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: research and they're saying, but I believe it's because they're 339 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: going off the highest concentration. I think because California has 340 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: way more people, it doesn't be it's not considered with Colorado, Oregon, Washington, 341 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: d C. And Vermont. We just have overpopulated areas, so 342 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: therefore doesn't seem as much. That's b s. They're talking 343 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: about concentrated areas, which I get that there's a difference 344 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: between the concentrated areas a lot in New York. There's 345 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: a lot more people in New York, you know, in 346 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: what five mile Radio sism there is all of California probably, well, 347 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, there is a lot more concentrated people, but 348 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: not not that big. Yeah, California still has masses of asses. 349 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a lot of people. In fact, 350 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, even with not being so concentrated, we're stuck 351 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: in traffic butts and nuts up and down the freeways 352 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: and and and again. Actually it's weird because here in 353 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: Cali the freeways are starting to get packed again. Everything 354 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: seems like it's just about to get ready and then 355 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: winners coming. Corvida is about to hit really hard shut 356 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: everybody down again. And if it ended today, did you 357 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: see it on the news? I say nothing about coronavirus 358 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: on the news. End of day. We're gonna talk a 359 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: little more about that after we get back from this break. Yeah, 360 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. Mark and 361 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: Craig pot Brothers that law with Blue and Joe Grund 362 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: are here and we've been talking about all the stuff 363 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: going on with the elections, and we want to take 364 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: a minute to thank Pitt, Peanut, Jen and Big Elvis 365 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: helping us get this show out to everybody. And you know, 366 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: before we got on got on the air, I was 367 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: starting to tell you guys a little Cannabis Goes bad 368 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: story that UH found me and uh our associate Matt 369 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: human in here in a hearing today over a feet 370 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: what's called a fee arbitration dispute. What did you do now, 371 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: so back in two thousand seven, back in two thousand seventeen, Well, 372 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: what we did was trying to help somebody, and you 373 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: know this is what you get. So was it another 374 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: pro bono? Was a pro bono? Again? Well? Half so 375 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: we do a free consultation. Back in two thousand seventeen, 376 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: when in California, if you wanted to get into the 377 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: cannabis business properly, you had to set up a cooperative corporation, 378 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: which is a very specific type of corporation. Very few 379 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: attorneys know how to do it. Matthew Human, he actually 380 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: created it in two thousand four, and then in two 381 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: thousand eight the Attorney General of California based their guidelines 382 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: on how cannabis businesses should be structured on the work 383 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: matt Human had started doing in two thousand four, based 384 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: off Senate Bill four twenty. So this woman comes in, 385 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: we do our consultation. I do the consultation as I 386 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: do thinks about an hour. And you know, we've been 387 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: doing these consultations for four years. But we both do them. 388 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: We we we've both done them. And but back back then, 389 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: when we were consistently doing these cooperatives for free consultations, 390 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: I was doing I was doing five, six, seven a 391 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: day sometimes and say the same thing. So it's like clockwork. 392 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, I know what I'm telling 393 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: these people, I know what I'm informing them of. And 394 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, Joe, you've heard us talk to people. We 395 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: are honest up front. We don't care. We're gonna tell 396 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: you what you need to know, not what you want 397 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: to hear. And oftentimes, as we've said, we're dream killers. 398 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: People walk out of our office. Is that why you 399 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: always tell me I'm fat and I'm not losing weight. No, 400 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: I tell you you're always losing weight. We gotta don't 401 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: give me false expectations. No, Joe, you haven't lost weight. No, 402 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: you're right there. You guys are always honest. So we 403 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: we didn't do the corporate stuff. We give that to 404 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: Matt Human. The client has a choice. They can hire 405 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: us to handle criminal defense matters if they come up 406 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: and have us there on their side. This woman didn't 407 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: want to hire us, just wanted to do the corporation 408 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: with Matt Human, which we did. We give her his 409 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: retainer agreement, signs it, We take the money, we deposit 410 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: in his account, and then he does all the work. 411 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: And we've done hundreds and hundreds of these without incident, 412 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: without a problem. This was back in November, and then 413 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: two years later this woman comes back and she wants 414 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: her money back. What's her claim that we didn't tell 415 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: her that you're gonna need a license. In two thousand, nineteen, 416 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: even though we told everybody who was doing the cooperatives 417 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, in two thousand eighteen, this is 418 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: to protect you while you're operating now and two thousand 419 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: nineteen January nine, it's over. So she was definitely told that, 420 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: and she claimed that we didn't tell her anything and 421 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: that I just put on a sales show to try 422 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: to get money out of her. And she didn't realize 423 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: that she was signing a con track for another attorney, 424 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: even though it was read to her the arbitrary that 425 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: hearing arbitrators said, didn't you read the contract to her? 426 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: And you can read right? That was like one of 427 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: the good things that the arbitrator said. There were other things. 428 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: You call you a used car salesman as well, more 429 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: or less, more or less and that I and that 430 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: I didn't explain everything to her and that I didn't 431 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: tell her what was gonna happen and anything. This is 432 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: what folks you to know out there about Mark and Craig. 433 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: They literally will crush your dreams when you go in there, 434 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: meaning Craig's gonna look at you and go are you sure, 435 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: and with this fucking depressed negative look on his face, 436 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: going are you sure you want to get into this 437 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: cannabis business, because it's fucking horrible. I know, I'm a 438 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: cannabis attorney, but there's so many I mean, he borderline 439 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: tries to talk to you out of it, and Mark 440 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: will sit there and be like, you know, just co 441 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: sign it. But Craig gives you the hard look of 442 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing. You better have a lot of 443 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: money and a lot of time and get ready for 444 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: a fucking roller coaster ride. So I could never see anybody. 445 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: She also said that she didn't get a license right 446 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: because just just by way of quick, just just by 447 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: way of quick background though, just real quick, and Mark 448 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: did it a little bit. But just to put it 449 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: more in perspective of what happened was people came in 450 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: in seventeen and want to start a co op and 451 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: we said, look, you sure you want to do that? 452 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: Waste your money. The defense the defense is good through 453 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: January of nineteen, but in eighteen you need a license, 454 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: and even though you might have criminal defense, you're still 455 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: gonna be in violation of licensing laws in eighteen. So 456 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: we don't really recommend that you do this, or you know, 457 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: unless people back then had a delivery service of cultivation 458 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: and storefront and it was worth it for them. We 459 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: had clients that they knew it and it was worth 460 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: it for them to be covered because they weren't that 461 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: way up until that point. For the next eight months, 462 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: they were okay with that. They knew that. After that 463 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna help them any longer. And uh and 464 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: all and all that was, you know, all that's it 465 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: was like, you know me even saying it now, we 466 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: did it for five years the same exact. This is 467 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: what you're up again, this is what you're gonna get, 468 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: This is is what you're gonna do. And and when we 469 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: got close to eight team, you know, we were like 470 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: talking ourselves out of work, going you sure you really 471 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: want to do that? We we turned down, not turned down. 472 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: We got people a lot of people to go you 473 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: know what, you're right, you know, because they had that 474 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: what happened? Mark, did you have to go to the 475 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: bank account and pull out pennies or what? They? Oh? No, no, no, no, 476 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: it's we don't know yet because the arbitrator has to 477 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: issue an order. But we it took three fucking hours 478 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: because between me and Matt Human, we had to school 479 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: the arbitrator on what this whole thing was, because at 480 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: one point the arbitrator goes, so, why didn't you help 481 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: her get a license in two thousand seventeen, there weren't 482 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: any There weren't any licenses in two thousands. My I 483 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: was pulling my hair out for three hours every time 484 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: the person who's going to make a decision on whether 485 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: or not we have to give money back made a 486 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: comment like that, clearly indicating that not understand what was 487 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: going on, and the fact that this woman was given 488 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: very specialized legal advice, counsel and documentation to run a 489 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: cannabis business under the old regime of cooperatives. So it 490 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: was very frustrating until at the end of it, when 491 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: it finally ended, I mean that now we we have 492 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: to wait for a ruling. And one thing that we 493 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: do know Matt pointed it out. You know that that 494 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: was done for a flat fee, and uh, the arbitrator 495 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: could come back and say, well, I want to know 496 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: how many hours you spent in blah blah blah, and 497 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, so we might have to give some money back. 498 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: If the arbitrator says we have to give money back, 499 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: How ridiculous is that? Oh? You shouldn't seen Matt he 500 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: oh man, he was mad. He was his when he 501 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: it was a good control. But you could see how 502 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: when she when, the when, the when, the point that said, 503 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: all I got were worthless documents, which is what her 504 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: c p A told her. She started talking about I 505 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: went to my c p A and c p A 506 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: said that this type of corporation blub and even the 507 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: arbitra is a cp A an attorney No, so I 508 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: mean it was, it was just And then Matt went 509 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: into this whole thing. I resent she called these documents useless. 510 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: And then that's when he went into I created this 511 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: over a period of years, and back in two thousand 512 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: four the Attorney General used my format. Oh he went off, 513 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: he went off on it. But but it can happen 514 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: whether or not this arbitrator is gonna feel sorry for 515 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: this whiny and what my thirty three years, I've never 516 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: had one and in year twenty something years, that's the 517 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: years for me. This is the first time, first back 518 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: on your cards, the first time that we've had something. 519 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: We didn't even make money on it. Right, they did 520 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a free coming. Because most of the time what would 521 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: happen is people would come in, we go instead of 522 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: like other attorneys were setting up their own corporations. We 523 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: didn't think we're proper under the guidelines. We knew a 524 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: guy who did it the special way under these guidelines. 525 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: How they said it specialized. We don't do what we 526 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: don't do, so we referred it to him, and then 527 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: they would hire us alongside to help them stay compliant 528 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: at that time with their business how to run it, 529 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: to defend themselves under criminal charges. So it's usually a 530 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: tandem deal every now and then they wouldn't want us 531 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: and just want to get the corporation set up, so 532 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: through us, they would get the corporation set up clearly 533 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: on matt Humans letter head, in the whole nine yards. 534 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: So that's kind of how that worked. So that was 535 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: my That's why I'm not in studio right now because 536 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: I got stuck on It started out eleven. I figured 537 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: I'd be done by noon. Well I have her. When 538 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: furniture goes bad, worry why I didn't go to studio today? 539 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: Did you sit on something broke? Since furniture was delivered 540 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: from Ashley's furniture and they didn't bring his instead, they 541 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: got another date on the tent to half Baker, they're 542 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: coming back. My god, it just pisses me. You bring 543 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: both pieces, sorry, sir, one pieces back ordered. That's bullshit, right, 544 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: And they give me these windows, just these dumbass windows, 545 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: like jo I think with that, on that note, we're 546 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna call it a day, blue Head to take off 547 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: Addie here, we want to interesting. Can we keep your 548 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: story one time for everyone out there? We haven't done 549 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: it in a while. We do it on i G 550 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: all the time, but we haven't done it on the 551 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: show in a while, and I think it's appropriate. Like Braig, 552 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: can you lead their Mark and lead the way with 553 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: the slam poem? No, not to slam poem for sure, 554 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: but oh the script? Alright, big brother, what do you 555 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: say when the cops first pull you over over and 556 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: when they start asking you questions, I'm not discussing my 557 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: day and they ask you more questions, try to intimidate you. 558 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: No matter what they say, am I being detained? Or 559 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: am I free to go? Even if they pull me 560 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: out of the car, though, Mark, even if they grab 561 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: the out of the car, you're probably being detained. Yeah, 562 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: And then do I still ask you if they grab 563 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: me and pull me out absolutely, always ask and don't 564 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: let them grab you. Just get out when they tell 565 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: you to get out. So I should fight them from 566 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: grabbing me. What do you mean, No, you should just 567 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: get you there grabbing you. They're only grabbing you because 568 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: they said get out and you did it, So get 569 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: out of the car. When they say get out of 570 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: the car, do I say, am I being detained? Or 571 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: am I free to go? If they say get out 572 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: of the car and I try to fight that immediately, 573 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: you don't fight anything. We don't fight anything. As soon 574 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: as they say when you say my being detained, am 575 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: I free to go? They have to say you're being 576 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: detained or you're free to go one of the two. 577 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: They get out of the car and get out of 578 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: the car. As you're getting out of the car and say, 579 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: am I being detained? Are my free to go? And 580 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: if they say, just get your fat ass out of 581 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: the car right now, then you get out of the 582 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: car all right, and the bind your back. You put 583 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: your hands behind your back, and then you say I 584 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: invoked the fifth And then what do you do, Joe? 585 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: You shut the funk up and run fast? Don't that's 586 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: the script? Hey? You know I'll tell you why man, 587 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: the script has helped thousands of people, countless people. Um, 588 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: and if you know, if you could just kind of 589 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: get the understanding of there's not one thing that you 590 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: can say to a police officer when being challenged, they 591 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: can help you. So the the good old statement is 592 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: is that, um, you know, there's nothing they can do 593 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: for you right there. You know, nothing you say is 594 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna help you or will be used. Everything you can 595 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: can you, everything you say or do will and can 596 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: be used against you. And and and so the truth 597 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: behind that is is, you know, it's very difficult because 598 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: you've got somebody that finally comes on to your level 599 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: after you guys have both been bumping heads, and they goes, man, 600 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: just just deal with me, dude, like you know what 601 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: were you drinking tonight? And you're like, you know what, 602 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: I that's it. That's it. You just admitted. And then 603 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: they go okay, cool, and they walk away and they 604 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: try to come back and arrest, and they arrest you. 605 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: And and so the reason that they do that is 606 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: because and and I can is because they're allowed to lie, 607 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: they're allowed to pretend to be your buddy, they're allowed 608 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: to make you feel like everything's gonna be cool if 609 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: you just be honest with that's just tell me the truth. 610 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: I won't say anything. Yeah, you know, and then what 611 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: ends up happening is is you just let off your 612 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: guns and you have no more bullets. Dude, you are 613 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: now you can lie, you can say whatever they want. 614 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: They have a license to lie and do and say 615 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: whatever they do. They're like the president. Whatever here we go. Well, 616 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: at least you know he's still in office. I appreciate 617 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: you knowing well as of today, it's a it is, 618 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: it is acquainted. It hasn't it hasn't ended yet, and 619 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: we're in every afternoon the day and we still don't 620 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: we still don't know. I hope all you Biden fans win. 621 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: I hope all you Trump fans win. I just hope 622 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: that everybody wins, you know. 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