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Speaker 1: moved the sticks talking about an interesting week in college

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Speaker 1: football in NFL football. We've got a great guest coming

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Speaker 1: up on today's show. Last week we had Doug Whaley,

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Speaker 1: Chargers general manager Tom Tolasco gonna stop by. Yeah. Great

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Speaker 1: think it's different, but I think they have the town.

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Speaker 1: I think that that that the tempo, the explosives, and

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Speaker 1: I think the quarterback can always kind of deliver maybe

431
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Speaker 1: a vantage performers one that we're seeing last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: He's been getting close to be in the guy that

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Speaker 1: we saw in the in the playoffs. Maybe he could

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Speaker 1: be there. And then Ohio State always has a puncher's

435
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Speaker 1: chance against them, just because urban Meyer finds a way

436
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Speaker 1: in those one game scenarios against Xaban, he finds a

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Speaker 1: way to be successful. How many off Washington, which I think, well,

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Speaker 1: I think Washington's gonna win. I think Washington get the

439
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Speaker 1: fourth seed. How many over over under, over under on

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Speaker 1: number of trick plays Chris Peterson calls against Alabama, he

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Speaker 1: has to call five. I'll take the over he has.

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Speaker 1: He has, he has to he has to do everything,

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Speaker 1: reverse pass everything, like I think he has. He has

444
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Speaker 1: to empty the clip. Because I like, I like Washington

445
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Speaker 1: and his talent. I just don't know from a physical

446
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Speaker 1: standpoint here they can stand up in a hit. Here's

447
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 1: the thing. I think Washington in the secondary, you can

448
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Speaker 1: match up in Alabama is fine, don't match up just fine,

449
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Speaker 1: and I think that can kind of keep the score down.

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Speaker 1: The problem is this Alabama defense scores points, and they

451
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Speaker 1: will score points against Washington because Washington cannot block them physically.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know. It kind of reminds me of

453
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Speaker 1: when Oregon used to venture out of the pack. We

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Speaker 1: haven't have to take on SEC team physically. It's just

455
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Speaker 1: a different thing, particularly into trenches. And I just don't

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to think. We're gonna see

457
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Speaker 1: double pass, We'll see reverse pass, We'll see you may

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Speaker 1: see a statue of liberty, statue of liberty, maybe a

459
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Speaker 1: little option and then to pass off the option. Um,

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Speaker 1: probably double pass, Yeah, no question, double pass is always

461
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. Um what about the fumble? Rooski?

462
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, if we don't know, if we

463
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Speaker 1: dust off, we had to do a different modified version.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to dig into trick some g

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Speaker 1: a right now is already fake PUNTI Ki, Oh yeah,

466
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Speaker 1: you got you gotta do them all? Um, all right, Buck,

467
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Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're getting out of here.

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Speaker 1: We've got Tom Tolesco gonna jump on and join us here.

469
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Speaker 1: But that anything else from college you want to jump into. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, and i'mer the excited to talk to Tom

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Speaker 1: let's bring them all when you take into account the

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Speaker 1: finishes of Charger games this year as well as the

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Speaker 1: amount of injuries the Charges have had, Tom, I gotta

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Speaker 1: be leave you. In all years in the NFL, you've

475
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Speaker 1: never seen anything like this. No, I really have. And

476
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Speaker 1: this is not the type of record you want to

477
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Speaker 1: make in this league. But you know it happens, so

478
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Speaker 1: you can't complain about it, and you can't say, well,

479
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Speaker 1: this is too hard and we can't do We just

480
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Speaker 1: keep on going. And uh, our coaches have done a

481
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Speaker 1: really really nice job of getting a lot of players

482
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Speaker 1: ready to play a little earlier than anticipated. And our

483
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Speaker 1: pro scouting staff has been working day and night, uh

484
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Speaker 1: to find the right players. So he's gonna keep working

485
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Speaker 1: through and you know we've done a pretty good job

486
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Speaker 1: as far as finding players can't come in and fit

487
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Speaker 1: and in a short period of time. Um, but you

488
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Speaker 1: just keep clawing, scratching and keep playing as hard as

489
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Speaker 1: you can. You touched on it there. What what has

490
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Speaker 1: been your overall impression of your coach this year and

491
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Speaker 1: what coach McCoy has done with with the situation you

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Speaker 1: guys have been in. I mean, when when you look

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Speaker 1: at what's what's going on this year in terms of

494
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Speaker 1: you know, on the field and off the field, and

495
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Speaker 1: and and the focus that our players and coaches have shown.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I talked to our team at training camp,

497
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Speaker 1: I told him, I said, this year, Um, it's gonna

498
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Speaker 1: be unique for our football team. UM. I don't think

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Speaker 1: a professional sports team has ever gone through a situation

500
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Speaker 1: where there's gonna be a public vote in the middle

501
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Speaker 1: of your season that's going that could determine your long

502
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Speaker 1: term viability, um in the city or in It's just

503
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: it was. It was unprecedented. But UM, you know, our

504
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: coaches and players, I'm proud of them as far as

505
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: staying focused and we we know we can control what

506
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Speaker 1: we can control. That's the product on the field, and

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Speaker 1: uh that's what they've done. And we've had some injuries

508
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Speaker 1: along the way, but we've got a lot of players

509
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Speaker 1: step in and play some pretty big roles for us

510
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Speaker 1: and play good football. So, um, you know we could

511
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Speaker 1: we're down to the last six games here. We gotta

512
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Speaker 1: keep playing as hard as we can. You know, Tom

513
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Speaker 1: and In talking about that because part of the general

514
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Speaker 1: manager's job is to set the vision for the franchise.

515
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Speaker 1: And to be able to supply the players and really

516
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Speaker 1: work in concert with the coaching staff. And you talked

517
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Speaker 1: about the unusual circumstances that you guys have had to

518
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Speaker 1: face with the injuries. How do you put together a

519
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Speaker 1: plan and a backup plan to make sure that you

520
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Speaker 1: have enough guys to give your coach a chance to

521
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Speaker 1: win well, no matter if you have a lot of

522
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Speaker 1: injuries or not. Your your pro scouiding department is always

523
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Speaker 1: doing that work daily as far as knowing the waiver wire,

524
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Speaker 1: knowing who's available on the street before the trade deadline,

525
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Speaker 1: knowing what players could be available for trade, and constantly

526
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Speaker 1: working with your practice squad as far as trying to

527
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Speaker 1: upgrade your talent there and then working and developing with

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Speaker 1: them on the field. So Um, you know, this is

529
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Speaker 1: a people business, you know, more so than football business.

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Speaker 1: So we spent a lot of time with each other

531
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Speaker 1: where there's the scouts and the coaches and the head

532
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: coach and discussing things and always having a plan moving

533
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Speaker 1: forward and trying to think a couple of steps ahead

534
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Speaker 1: of what could happen and then and then how we

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Speaker 1: would handle that. So Um and our coaches really have

536
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Speaker 1: done a great job because a a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: we practiced during the week. So say for instance, we're

538
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Speaker 1: working on Tampa Bay this week, but we're still have

539
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Speaker 1: to get our practice squad players keep developing them every

540
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Speaker 1: week because those guys aren't necessarily guys from next year.

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Speaker 1: Those guys could be guys for this week that may

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Speaker 1: have to play. So they've done a very good job

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Speaker 1: getting players ready to go. You know, Tom, one thing

544
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Speaker 1: that has kind of been a consistent thing for the

545
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Speaker 1: charges of late you guys have been able to find

546
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Speaker 1: some guys on the street that could play wide receiver

547
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Speaker 1: really help your quarterback. What has kind of been the

548
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Speaker 1: secret sauce to being able to find so many undrafted

549
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Speaker 1: or late round guys that have been able to come

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Speaker 1: and making media contributions outside of our receiver. Well, part

551
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Speaker 1: of that is is having a great quarterback that that can, uh,

552
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Speaker 1: you know, work with these guys and put balls in

553
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: great positions for him. But uh are scouting staff both

554
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: college and pro um we all know that if we

555
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Speaker 1: can find receivers that can separate from tight coverage and

556
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Speaker 1: catch the ball consistently, we have we have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's gonna find them and and Uh, you know our

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Speaker 1: offense right now. I know we lost Keenan earlier in

559
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Speaker 1: the year, we lost Danny Woodhead, but we've kind of

560
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Speaker 1: evolved in they're really spreading the ball around and we've got, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, ten touchdowns from their running backs this year.

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Speaker 1: We've got ten touchdowns from our top three receivers this year,

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Speaker 1: and then ten touchdowns from our top two tight ends,

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Speaker 1: both Hunter Henry and Antonio Gates. We've spread the ball

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Speaker 1: around a lot. Our quarterback will throw to the open guy,

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Speaker 1: and and our receivers have come in and uh, they've

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Speaker 1: been tough, they've been reliable, they've gotten open and like

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Speaker 1: I said, Philip wasn't put balls in position where they

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Speaker 1: can make plays. You mentioned a rookie there and Hunter

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Speaker 1: Henry who's been outstanding, but I want to talk about

571
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Speaker 1: another rookie, the prize rookie in your class here. And

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Speaker 1: when I look around the division, they're a little bit

573
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Speaker 1: of a theme here with pastors. Just Kansas City, you've

574
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Speaker 1: got Houston and Tom Balley, You've got Oakland with Mac

575
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Speaker 1: and Irvin. They get a lot of credit Von Miller

576
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Speaker 1: and where we saw them go to the super Bowl.

577
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Speaker 1: But now with the way Melvin Ingram has developed in

578
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Speaker 1: his young career, and you go add a Joey Bosa

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Speaker 1: and what he's done. I mean, just how impressed have

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Speaker 1: you been with what he's done in his brief time there? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean, our our division really

582
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Speaker 1: has the best pass restions in football, which makes it

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Speaker 1: a challenge for us. And and we felt last year

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Speaker 1: on our defensive front we're looking for players to make

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Speaker 1: more of an impact UM on the line. And you know,

586
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: we had signed Corey Legia to the extension last year.

587
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Speaker 1: We're very pleased with that. But then they get a

588
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Speaker 1: chance to to sign Brandon me Baye to play nose

589
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Speaker 1: tackle force and draft Joey. Um. It's been a good

590
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Speaker 1: defensive front force and Joey's brought um everything we had

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Speaker 1: hoped uh to us as far as he's a big, long,

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Speaker 1: um athletic player that we can use in a lot

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Speaker 1: of different alignments, whether it's as a four down defensive

594
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Speaker 1: vent a three down defensive vent. We've had to stand

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Speaker 1: him up and play him as a sam linebacker a

596
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: little bit when we have some injuries earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: and um, he's done a great job for us as

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Speaker 1: far as how hard he plays. He hustles sideline to sideline,

599
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Speaker 1: and he brings you know, not not just the past

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Speaker 1: rush ability, but be able to help and not help,

601
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Speaker 1: but but be a big impact in the run game

602
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: as well. So, um, yeah, it's a challenge in this

603
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: division that there's big time passed rushers on every team,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we got you know, Melvin Ingram and

605
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa coming along real well, I remember real quick.

606
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Speaker 1: But Tom, I remember when when grade used to come out.

607
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Speaker 1: I used to have a big side relief when I

608
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Speaker 1: got my report card. How relieved were you when you

609
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Speaker 1: finally got Joey Bose after missing those games with the

610
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Speaker 1: contract dispute, when you finally got that deal done. How

611
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Speaker 1: much of a relief was that just on your end? Uh? Look,

612
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: certainly a relief, you know, it's it's part of this business. Um.

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Speaker 1: But to be honest with you, I haven't really thought

614
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Speaker 1: about it all since that, since the day he put

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Speaker 1: pen to paper, I really haven't really thought much about

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Speaker 1: the contract situation after that. Well, it worked out. It's

617
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: worked out quite well since you've got him on the field.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that has worked out, Um, your first round

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Speaker 1: pick from a year ago. Melvin ingram Uh, there's a

620
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Speaker 1: lot of criticism about his game as a rookie, but

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Speaker 1: he has stepped up and really been a major factor.

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Speaker 1: What has been the biggest difference in Melvin ing Melvin

623
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Speaker 1: Gordon's game this year compared to last years A riki Yeah,

624
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of the runs he's had

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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: this year. We saw that last year, especially in the

626
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: first quarter of the season, but I think this year

627
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Speaker 1: with in our offensive line, there's been more continuity there.

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Speaker 1: We've had the five guys line up you know, almost

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Speaker 1: every week for us, which is big. I think we've

630
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: gotten better blocking from our tight ends this year than

631
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: last year. And part of it is Melvin of that

632
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: development process of realizing, you know, you don't have to

633
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: make every four yard run into a four yard run.

634
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: Second and six is better than than second and ten.

635
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Speaker 1: And he's really really uh taking that to heart, and

636
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: we've seen him get better and better. He's certainly got

637
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: a lot more red zone touches this year than last year,

638
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: and he's really coming along and um, he's got a

639
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: lot of talent, and we're getting better up front as

640
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: far as blocking and creating some situations for him where

641
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: you can make some big plays. You spend all that

642
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Speaker 1: time in Indianapolis with Bill Polian, and it's interesting when

643
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Speaker 1: I look at the way you've kind of constructed this roster,

644
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I do see some similarities to to what you guys

645
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: had back there in Indianapolse. You've got a couple of

646
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: pass rushers, Um, you get it back in the first

647
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: round that that's played really well. You've got the quarterback

648
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Speaker 1: position squared away, so you kind of built get that

649
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: lead and be able to hunt the quarterback. How much

650
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Speaker 1: of an influence has Bill Polian been on you as

651
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: you go through the process as general manager? Oh? Um,

652
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: you know, hard to describe. I mean everything I've learned

653
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: about pro football has really come from from Bill Polian.

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00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Uh has certainly his son Chris Polian and Doma Neeli,

655
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Speaker 1: who was the director of college scouting when when I

656
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: was there. Um, but everything I've learned of pro football

657
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: is from those guys and and UH. To be together

658
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: with with with one group of people working in Indianapolis

659
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: for that long, um, you learn a lot. And Bill

660
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: was always great with with young people that worked there.

661
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean he let myself and Chris, you know, really,

662
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, watch and learn and see how everything is done,

663
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: and uh include us in a lot of things that's

664
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: certainly at ages that we probably shouldn't have been. And um,

665
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: really there does there isn't isn't a day that goes

666
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: by when I work here that I don't remember something, Um,

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00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, thinking back to what happened in Indianapolis or

668
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: how a situation was handled. And and I can't say

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Speaker 1: enough about how much I've learned from him and continue

670
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: to to learn moving forward. This is the last one

671
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Speaker 1: I've got here, Bucky I got We asked, Uh, we

672
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: had Doug Whaley on. We asked him this. We always

673
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: talk about our old war stories, our road stories. Tom.

674
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: You've you've been out there, You've been out on the road.

675
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: So we asked for just one story, your favorite story.

676
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: Maybe Doug Whaley told us about locking his keys in

677
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: the car Virginia Tech a long time ago. Maybe a

678
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: remote visit at a school that the something we need.

679
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: We need a scouting story fromascore on this. No, that's

680
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: what this is. This is a pop quiz. I tell

681
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: you there was, Um, I went to a Rhode Island

682
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: at Northeastern game and if you remember Northeastern they played.

683
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: It was almost like a high school field that had

684
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: like eight rows of bleachers in a press box about

685
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: at the tenth row. Um, And I'm there to see

686
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: uh Frankie Ferrara, who was a defensive vent at Rhode Island,

687
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Speaker 1: And I'm the only scout there. I'm standing during warm

688
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: ups and watching him and and he points at me

689
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna get three sacks today, you know, Okay,

690
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: you usually the scout staring pre game. So I go

691
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: up to the press box and lo and behold, he

692
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: gets the sack like in the first quarter, and he

693
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: points up to the press box and I'm looking around.

694
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, he said, that's one, I'm getting two more,

695
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Speaker 1: and uh, I'll never forget that. And by the way,

696
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Speaker 1: he was one of all these years of scouting, I'll

697
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: never forget he played as hard as any prospect I've

698
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: ever seen at any level. Um. He ended up making

699
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: with the Giants for a number of years and played

700
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: in the league. But uh, yeah, I've never had a

701
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: prospect and talked to me during pre game and during

702
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the game and point me out in the press box.

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Speaker 1: So that was a fun experience that that's a great

704
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: job called the shot. Yeah, we've got somebody like one

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00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: of the ones. I was just thinking of what you're

706
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: telling that store. I remember being at a pro day

707
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: a small school, and uh, I was the only scout there.

708
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: I had to do it for the A p T. Right,

709
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: so you gotta report to all of the teams, and

710
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: this was they had way too many guys run. These

711
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: guys were not prospects. And my watch, I missed him.

712
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I missed the start. This is his second runs, right,

713
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: So he came through, he goes what I run? And

714
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: I go, what'd you run? The first time? He goes

715
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: out four eight five? Yeah, I got you four eight five.

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00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna make him go back

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Speaker 1: there and run it one more time. I could, I

718
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: couldn't do. Are some long days work out. I'll tell

719
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Speaker 1: you what, man, You guys have battled through adversity and

720
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: you're right in the thick of it there in the

721
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Speaker 1: a f C. West. You've done a great job building

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Speaker 1: this roster, and we appreciate you taking some time with

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Speaker 1: us here anytime. Guys, great talking to you. That's a

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: strong story from Tom to LESCo. I don't know, we

725
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: think Doug Whaley had a good one with the keys

726
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: locked in the car. That's pretty good. Anytime you get

727
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: a dedication that takes me back to high school when

728
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: used to dedicate songs us dedicate songs to your girlfriend.

729
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: That's that's almost like what the guy did. This one

730
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: goes out to you. This one, this sack goes out

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Speaker 1: to tomb. That was phenomenal. Al Right, Well, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: try and keep getting some more personnel guests in here,

733
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Speaker 1: general managers and personnel directors and keep that trained roll

734
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Speaker 1: and keep these stories coming. It was a fun episode today,

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Speaker 1: Buck was a great weekend of football, fund weekend of football,

736
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Speaker 1: and now we get to the point where these games

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Speaker 1: are very important on the college side. We'll be gonna

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Speaker 1: preview the championship games on our next episode as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some of the NFL matchups

740
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Some good games to keep an

741
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: eye on there as well. We've got some videos out

742
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: there for everybody to check out previewing some of these

743
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: games being be on the lookout for that another special

744
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: surprise video. I'm not gonna tip tip my hand here,

745
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: but it's a good one. It's gonna be real good.

746
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be real good. See Bucky even agrees with me.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us today, everybody.

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