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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, they say it's not

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Speaker 1: how you start, it's how you finish. Well, maybe it

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Speaker 1: is how you start, at least with this team here

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Pretty sure Isaiah Simmons preferred a better

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Speaker 1: start to his NFL career, but look at him now.

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Speaker 1: But first props to Devon Kinard. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode three fifty six, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: So these are the stories you like to read about,

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Speaker 1: these are the feel good stories and ja certainly especially

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Speaker 1: this week it's being Thanksgiving week. But I want to

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Speaker 1: let the bird Gang know on what happened Friday. I

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Speaker 1: did not catch this in real time, but Devon Canard,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals linebacker posted a photo of him and his

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Speaker 1: mom on Friday with a brand new car. The tweet quote,

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Speaker 1: my mom is the backbone of our family. This is

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Speaker 1: the least I could do. She's been driving the same

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Speaker 1: car since I was ten years old. I had to

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Speaker 1: change that end quote. Canard bought his mom a car.

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Speaker 1: That is awesome. I mean, you know, we know he's

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Speaker 1: been in the league long enough, but sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's great. Sometimes you want to see videos as

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Speaker 1: the reaction, um and listen, and we all know how

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Speaker 1: moms are to any family. They are the backbone. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: so props to Devon Garnard here as we welcome everyone

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Speaker 1: to this Monday edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by

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Speaker 1: Monday Probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Help everyone enjoy

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Speaker 1: the I guess many buys that what you call this.

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Speaker 1: When you play on a Thursday, you really have three

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Speaker 1: days off Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It is the last time

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Speaker 1: this team is going to have any kind of arrest

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Speaker 1: m jan As Chase Edmonds mentioned earlier today, quote, you

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Speaker 1: feel a lot fresher. It's amazing what happens when you

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Speaker 1: just get that one extra day off, in this case,

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Speaker 1: three straight days before you have to go back to

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Speaker 1: work on a Monday. Yeah, and you know you look

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Speaker 1: at it. I mean, obviously you would like to have

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Speaker 1: that win. You know, you go for possibly a chance

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Speaker 1: to win the division. Now, still a lot of football

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Speaker 1: ta played tonight. You know you're looking at a wildcard,

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Speaker 1: you know, based on you know, certain schedules for certain teams,

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Speaker 1: but they know what's at stake. You know, they're games

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Speaker 1: are not going to get easier. I know that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna look at a team and they're they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a record next with their name. But you know, Cardinal's

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to go and play the Giants and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. So I mean, I think it's three and three,

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Speaker 1: three at home and three on the road, and got

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Speaker 1: some division games. But you know, I still think this

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Speaker 1: back at the game, it was just disappointing because the

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Speaker 1: got to give Seattle credit. They had a really good

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Speaker 1: game plan. You know, they learned a lot from that

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Speaker 1: Cardinal fans have long talked about ever since the Commissioner

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's not college. Okay, you're going against men,

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Speaker 1: and this is the NFL. And fans, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Now people don't want to people don't include this. And

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals would have taken Derek Brown, I really do.

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Speaker 1: and he's young. You look at by Buddha Baker young,

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Speaker 1: including four three and outs, and two turnovers. That and

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Speaker 1: you've got a team that is one of the better

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Speaker 1: offenses in the entire league, and with a six and

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Speaker 1: four record, they're putting themselves in a hole that they're

431
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Speaker 1: having to dig out of more times than knots. They've

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Speaker 1: been successful more times than knots. But in those four

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Speaker 1: losses that we've seen, save for maybe the Carolina game,

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Speaker 1: it's because of a slow starts that they weren't in

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Speaker 1: position to finally overcome that final deficit that they needed

436
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Speaker 1: to walk off the field with a win. Prime example,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, a couple three an ounced. They had twenty

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Speaker 1: three yards in the first quarter and they're they're trailing

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Speaker 1: at halftime. Yeah, and it's interesting Craig when you when

440
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Speaker 1: you point that out, you know, we watch it and

441
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Speaker 1: you're thinking, all right, maybe the second quarter you can

442
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Speaker 1: go back and see how many points are scoring in

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Speaker 1: each quarter and how much they're giving up. But uh, normally,

444
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Speaker 1: when you whether you take the ball or you defer,

445
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Speaker 1: a lot of those are scripted places. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: you know, for our listeners out there, when it comes

447
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Speaker 1: to third down there, you don't have a scripted you.

448
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Speaker 1: You script your fifteen to twelve to fifteen plays. The

449
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Speaker 1: head coach and the quarterback talk about it all week,

450
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Speaker 1: they'll they'll minimize it on a Saturday night, maybe coming

451
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Speaker 1: on Sunday you go with this, and so you do,

452
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Speaker 1: and then you know Google in the running game, and

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Speaker 1: then you know Rye and sell them in the passing game,

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Speaker 1: so everyone's on the same page. But normally with scripted

455
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Speaker 1: plays is something you see during the week that you

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Speaker 1: think you can attack and that's where you can put

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Speaker 1: your foot on the on the punnel. And um, I don't,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they're coming out conservative. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I can't put my finger on it because we know

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Speaker 1: that Kingsbury, you know, like all good coach they script

461
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Speaker 1: their places, and you watch teams and you're like, many

462
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Speaker 1: up seven nothing already. Obviously it comes down to play

463
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Speaker 1: calling his execution. Okay, play calling his execution, but you

464
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Speaker 1: would think they would have better numbers just based on

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Speaker 1: them being number one in total yards, which I think

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Speaker 1: is kind of misley. I'm more into you know, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing in the red zone, what are you

468
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Speaker 1: doing on third down? What are you doing? Goal to

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Speaker 1: go and listen, they're night and day from a year ago.

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Speaker 1: But it's just interesting that they haven't had great starts,

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Speaker 1: and you know we're sitting here six and four. The

472
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Speaker 1: team is, they got six games, and again I think

473
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Speaker 1: they're a playoff team. But you cannot. I mean, I

474
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Speaker 1: don't care if you're playing the Patriots, the Eagles, the Giants.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at games that possibly win. About

476
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Speaker 1: mentioned road games there, the tighter the game gets in

477
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, well, that gives the other team an advantage.

478
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: So this team, we give the offensive line a ton

479
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Speaker 1: of credit. They did not play well in that game,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it was because they were bringing four or five,

481
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Speaker 1: but that was the first time where I thought, man,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. I didn't not say they didn't show up,

483
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Speaker 1: but they didn't get the job done like we previous had.

484
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Speaker 1: It was almost a given, and I think it showed

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Speaker 1: where they shut Murray down and the Cardinals didn't have

486
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Speaker 1: a lot of explosive plays going in, we thought they

487
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Speaker 1: can attack those corners. So yeah, again, the main thing

488
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Speaker 1: is to win the game. But if you get off

489
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Speaker 1: to these slow starts, you're digging a hole, and then

490
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Speaker 1: it puts more pressure on the defense. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: win games in the first quarter, but you can certainly

492
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Speaker 1: lose games, or in the Cardinals case, make it more

493
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Speaker 1: difficult to win games in the first quarter because scoring wise,

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Speaker 1: the first fifteen minutes is the team's worst quarter of

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Speaker 1: the four across the board fifty two points. The Cardinals

496
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: have scored the next fewest points scored in a quarter

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter at seventy. Second quarter is their best

498
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Speaker 1: at eighty six, third quarter seventy six. And then the

499
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: other thing is they're getting outscored by thirteen points in

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Speaker 1: that first quarter. So yes, it's putting a strain not

501
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: only on the offense to come back, but the defense

502
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: to get an extra stop or two so the offense

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Speaker 1: can get back on the field with an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get the team the lead. Speaking of leads, though MJ

505
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals have not had a lead after the first quarter

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Speaker 1: since Week five at the Jets, and only three times overall.

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Speaker 1: They have not had a lead at halftime since Week

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Speaker 1: six at the Cowboys, and only three times overall. You

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Speaker 1: love that this is a second half team, always in

510
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Speaker 1: it at the end. Yet I just think they're making

511
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Speaker 1: it so much more difficult on themselves. They don't have

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Speaker 1: to be a second half team, be a complete team

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Speaker 1: to where you're playing with the lead and then all

514
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can do what you want. You

515
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Speaker 1: can dictate what you want on offense and defense when

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Speaker 1: you have the lead. All right, well, let's go back

517
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: to last game four or fall start penalis. How many

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Speaker 1: pre snap post snap? Now again, holding is going to

519
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: happen down in distance. You got to know if you're sweezy,

520
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: you can't hold Kyler Murray on the grounding can call

521
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: you gotta get you got to throw it away. But

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Speaker 1: this is what we talk about. What did Cliff tewis

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Speaker 1: Hee at thirteen negative places in the seen negative plays?

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Speaker 1: Now I'm guessing that includes we look at penalties and

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00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: then plays that lose yards. So thirteen negative plays offensively

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Speaker 1: thirteen negative plays and what was it eight of the

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Speaker 1: ten except the penalties came on the offensive end. And

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Speaker 1: quoting Kingsbury about that offense, we were off schedule. We

529
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Speaker 1: were disjointed the entire night, and that's what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: when you're playing behind the sticks. Yeah, and it's again

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Speaker 1: you know, first and five, first and fifteen, holding first

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Speaker 1: and twenty and at some point on third down you're

533
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Speaker 1: just playing for field position, hoping your defense can make

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Speaker 1: a stop. And you know, any league punts the ball.

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00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, penalties, it's been their achilles heel all year.

536
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: And you're gonna go and get the team that doesn't

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00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: commit penalties. And the New England patries. You know why

538
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: they don't beat themselves. They might not have the most

539
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: talented roster. And there was no crowd noise. That's what's perplexing.

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: And again it happens, but pre snap, post snap, you know, Kirkpatrick,

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Speaker 1: those those are lack of focused. Those mental errors they

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Speaker 1: call him Emmy's those are mental aires. They should not happen. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's just look at the five first top possessions against

544
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. First possession, three and out, three straight past attempts,

545
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Speaker 1: they have to punt the ball. Seconds possession, Murray gets sacked,

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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold gets called for a false start. It becomes

547
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Speaker 1: a third and twelve and another three out. Now the

548
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: third possession was a clean possession. They marched down field

549
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: eight plays fifty yard for a Kenyan Drake touchdown, and

550
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: then in the second quarter there was two more punts,

551
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Speaker 1: including a three and out, But that first possession in

552
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: the second quarter, Murray was sacked Justin Puell holding call.

553
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: There was a false starts on Justin Pugh as well,

554
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Speaker 1: and then another sack of Murray on that final possession

555
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Speaker 1: before the end of the first half. That all of

556
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Speaker 1: a sudden, what we just talked about, well, there's the

557
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: reason that this team can't get out of there, out

558
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: of the gates quickly is because they can't get in

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Speaker 1: their own way. Yeah, and you know, we'll see what

560
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Belichick does. We'll have plenty of time to talk about Dad.

561
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Usually he tries to take out your best player and

562
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: then tax your weaknesses. And you got to give ken

563
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Norton a lot of credit. I mean, Murray wasn't able

564
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Speaker 1: to run the ball, and when he doesn't be able

565
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: to run the ball, the numbers offensively are not the same.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we think he's your one two punches is

567
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Chase and Drake and Chase and then Murray's the luxury,

568
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: even though he's a big part of their offense. But

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Speaker 1: you know, in your notes we've talked about Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: one eight and one when he's held under thirty yards

571
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: and oh five and one when he gets fewer than

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Speaker 1: twenty yards, and so our team is going to put

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Speaker 1: us by at him. I mean, again, this is what

574
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Speaker 1: we're going to see. And we know it's a copycat

575
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: league and he clearly Ken Norton figured it out from

576
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Speaker 1: the first goal around. We're going to treat And Bobby

577
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: Wagner did say, we watched a lot of film on

578
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Speaker 1: this guy, and we think we have a different you know,

579
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Speaker 1: and I think you and I were talking and we're

580
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: like a easier said than done. But I think they

581
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: went out there improved it well. The other thing the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks did, which is what something Chase Edmonds brought up

583
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: earlier today because he was asked about the run game

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00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: and it just couldn't get off the ground, and he

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00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: mentioned that a lot of it was the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: the look that they gave was a lot of crowding

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Speaker 1: of the box five defensive lineman. He specifically mentioned, Yet,

588
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: what that shows you is something else is open. And

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00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I think that's where the Cardinals at the end of

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: the advantage. That's what we talked about on Friday. That

591
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: was their advantage if you're going to take away the run. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just as confident as Kyler Murray running the football

593
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Speaker 1: as I am with him throwing the football, maybe even

594
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: more so. Yet you have to be able to if

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: you've got five defensive linemen or seven or eight in

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: the box, well, that means your wide receivers are one

597
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: on one and then if they're not open, Now that's

598
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: a whole different discussion about getting separation. But even if

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Speaker 1: a DeAndre Hopkins is covered or a Lara Fitzgerald is covered,

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00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: they're still open. That's they've earned that right. And I

601
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: think to a certain extent, Murray is still trying to

602
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: figure that out because he doesn't want to make mistakes.

603
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to turn the ball over. I'm not

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00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: saying he's too cautious, but that's going to take some time.

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Speaker 1: And we're only a year and a half into this process,

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00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: or with respects to Hopkins, we're only ten games into

607
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: that relationship. Yeah, And that's why you know, when we

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Speaker 1: try to bring up you know, I do three you know,

609
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: key factors. You look at the matchups and he usually

610
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: has something to do with run the football, protecting the quarterback,

611
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: not turning it over. And again I'll give the offensive

612
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: line the benefit of the doubt. I'll give them a

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00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: mulligan in that game even though it counts. But they

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00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: they've done definitely have done their part. And I'm sure

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00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Coogler is going to be you know, I'm a spec

616
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Speaker 1: in hues like he is every week to hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have to get better. We first game Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: I think it was one hitter, zero hits. This game

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Speaker 1: they hit him seven times. I mean it was a

620
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: big difference and he took a hit and you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll get more on that. According to Ian Rapport, appears

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00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: that he'll be fine, probably some soreness and then you

623
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Speaker 1: know throughout the course of the week. But yeah, i

624
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: mean it's again, if this team's gonna go right, they

625
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: have to run the football. It's funny we're talking about

626
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: this and here they are still six and four. Is

627
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: still one of the better offenses across the league. But

628
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: that is where the frustration comes in. On a Sunday

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Speaker 1: night on Cardinal Talk or a Monday morning, Monday afternoon,

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00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: Monday evening, as you're digesting what happened twenty four hours

631
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Speaker 1: earlier on missed opportunities, Or why can't this team get

632
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: into a rhythm and get in sync on a consistent

633
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: basis for all four quarters for a couple of weeks

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00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: in a row. You're not gonna be perfect, and you

635
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: can't sustain it for sixteen weeks, sixteen games. But that

636
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: is where I think a lot of we know how

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00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: good this offense can be. They know how good they

638
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: can be, and it's just a matter of going out

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00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: and doing it in execution. And yes, sometimes the defense wins,

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Speaker 1: but more times than not, it's falling on the offensive

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Speaker 1: shoulders to move the football and score points. And have

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Speaker 1: they done it? Yes, there was that five game stretch

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Speaker 1: before Thursday Night Football, thirty plus points, four hundred plus

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Speaker 1: total yards. But even during those games, MJ, we were

645
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Speaker 1: talking about, Hey, this just doesn't seem right, doesn't pass

646
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Speaker 1: the eye test. Are we greedy? Okay, yeah, I admit

647
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Speaker 1: we're a little greedy, But that's because we know what

648
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Speaker 1: this team is capable of doing and showing on that

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Speaker 1: football field. Yeah, and you go back to that final

650
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Speaker 1: drive and you know, I went back and looked at

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Speaker 1: the sequence, and you know, I understand that. You know,

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: they felt like Isabella was open, Kyler underthrew him. Maybe

653
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Speaker 1: they had something to do with the shoulder just you know,

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Speaker 1: but they he was thrown on the sidelines when when

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Speaker 1: they're on the sidelines they had a heating pad on

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Speaker 1: the throw of fits kind of a little bit late there,

657
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Speaker 1: But to me, Craig, you had two time outs. I mean,

658
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Speaker 1: I think they could have had a better possession there

659
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Speaker 1: where they get a little bit closer and they don't

660
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Speaker 1: have to go for those those you know, people gonna

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Speaker 1: say why they're throwing Isabella, Well, I mean, any Isabella.

662
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Speaker 1: He made a great catch this year in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: He's got the speed. We talked about them not having

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Speaker 1: their top two corners out there, so we talked about matchups.

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Speaker 1: But I would have liked to see them, you know,

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Speaker 1: you utilize the play clock and the two timeouts and

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Speaker 1: get a little bit closer, because again we knew they

668
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Speaker 1: had to score a touchdown, but I thought there were

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Speaker 1: forty three seconds on the clock. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: right well, they had it first and ten okay at

671
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Speaker 1: the Seattle twenty seven with fifty four seconds left, and

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Speaker 1: that's when we saw the three straight in completions and

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Speaker 1: then the sack. Yeah, okay, okay, say they were able

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Speaker 1: to move the ball when they got it up until

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Speaker 1: the fifty right, there were four straight completions and then

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Speaker 1: to get to the Seattle forty nine yard line with

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Speaker 1: a minute thirty two to go, and then we saw

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds run for eleven yards, which we've seen this

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Speaker 1: team even in a hurry up. You get the defense

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Speaker 1: back on its heels and you run the ball up

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Speaker 1: the middle, and all of a sudden, you got a

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Speaker 1: chunk play even though time is ticking down. So I

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Speaker 1: liked to have everything started and it just kind of

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Speaker 1: like stopped for whatever reason. And you know, don't like

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Speaker 1: to always give credits to the defense, but maybe some

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Speaker 1: is due to what Ken was able to do as

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. But taking the ball with two fifteen

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Speaker 1: left and two timeouts from your own twenty one yard line, heck,

689
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Speaker 1: that's an eternity for any quarterback in Kyle the Murray's situation. Yeah,

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00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: and again this is what their twenty sixth game. They're

691
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: both learning. But you know, you got to learn from

692
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: your mistakes or you got to learn from what it

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Speaker 1: would have done differently, and Cliff is you know, one

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Speaker 1: thing I'll appreciate about Cliff. He'll come out and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe I should have done something a little

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Speaker 1: bit different here. Of course it's hindsight. But again, if

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Speaker 1: everyone's doing their job and Kylin makes sense through, maybe

698
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: we're having a different conversation if he gets it all

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Speaker 1: quicker to Larry and I. You know, I went back

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Speaker 1: and thought maybe they should have thrown the flag after,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking to some people and the no meeting

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Speaker 1: guys that officiated. That was a great nine call. So

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Speaker 1: I was wrong on that, but I think there were

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Speaker 1: other ways you could have got down there and try

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Speaker 1: to get a touchdown. A little bit shorter pass. Yeah,

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: there was what three defend enders converging on fits. There

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00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit early contacts, but again

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Speaker 1: late in game sometimes it's a little bit harder to

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Speaker 1: get that flag out of the officials pocket. And then

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Speaker 1: the Andy Isabella play on the very next possession or

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Speaker 1: the next snap of the football. He was open. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a good route and he had beaten the defense.

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Speaker 1: The ball just wasn't on time. And you know, whether

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Speaker 1: that's Murray was late seeing him or because of the

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Speaker 1: pressure coming and he just couldn't get where he needed

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Speaker 1: to be set to throw the football. Hopkins though he

717
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Speaker 1: was not only covered, he was double teamed. And it's

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Speaker 1: one thing to throw the ball up in the air

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Speaker 1: and have him jump, but when he's not quite in

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Speaker 1: the end zone or still at the fifteen I think

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen yard line, it's where he was kind of at.

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Speaker 1: Those throws become more difficult to get when it's more

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Speaker 1: of a line drive as opposed to jumping up to

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Speaker 1: high point it. Yeah, I guess what I'm getting is

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Speaker 1: once you get to fourth and ten, obviously again you

726
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: have to try to win the game. But he didn't

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Speaker 1: even get a chance to throw the ball. They rushed

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Speaker 1: three and Carlos Stenlows, you know, he sacked him, and

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Speaker 1: I was just hoping they get some more positive regards

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Speaker 1: where you're not sitting at that fourth and ten. But hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll give the Seahawks credit. I thought they won at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and that's how the game ultimate

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Speaker 1: here on this Monday Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Before we call it

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Speaker 1: a day, MJA, the news that we talked about late

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Speaker 1: last week with respect to the new addition on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line has become official. Demata Peco has signed six three,

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Speaker 1: twenty five pound defensive lineman. Last play for the Ravens

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Speaker 1: seven games last season, but he is now in Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinal And really, I know head coach Cliff Kingsbury wouldn't

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Speaker 1: commit to saying how much of a role he would

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Speaker 1: have this week, but considering the depth or lack thereof

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Speaker 1: at that position, I fully expect to see pet go

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Speaker 1: on the field and maybe a lot comes Sunday in

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Speaker 1: New England. Well, it's a little bit different than Marcus Golden.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he was out of football and

754
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: you know you got to get into football shape. But

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00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: they're only asking him to play an x amount of snaps. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just as curious as everyone else when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Rashad Lawrence Zach Allen. We know how

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Speaker 1: might say lose Louston, Corey Peters, and Chandler Jones, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say he's a plug and play guy.

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Speaker 1: But there's a reason why, you know, they decided because

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Speaker 1: they brought in three guys for tryouts and he came

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00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: in for a visit, and a visit means they're obviously

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Speaker 1: doing their physical and kind of see what kind of

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Speaker 1: shape he's in, and they made a decision to pick him,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Vans showsph. I mean, he's he's a tough guy.

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Speaker 1: If you remember against US, he was calling off the

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Speaker 1: count and he got penalized a few different times in

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Speaker 1: that game. But you know, he's had a long career

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. You know, they made the playoffs a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, and they're Marvin Lewis. They had really good

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Speaker 1: coordinators there, so I mean, they need him. So we'll

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Speaker 1: just have to wait and see. But if you asked

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Speaker 1: me today, I think it's going to be active. It's

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Speaker 1: just how much does he play and how effective could

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Speaker 1: he be? But I'll take a veteran guy like that

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Speaker 1: over a guy that has been on the street, has

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Speaker 1: no experience. You mentioned the last time the Cardinals saw

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Speaker 1: Peco on the field. Darren Irman's got a nice little

779
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: nugget on that on Acy Cardinals dot Com. But here's

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Speaker 1: what Kingsbury had to say about Peco quote, we're excited

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Speaker 1: about the signing, and then added as far as what

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Speaker 1: to expect, well, we're hopeful. We'll see how he looks

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Speaker 1: this week. The only reason NJ that I say I

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00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: fully expect to see him and a lot of them. Now.

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Speaker 1: I realize you know football shape and everything, but when

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Speaker 1: you look at what's left on that defensive line, Josh Morrell,

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Speaker 1: Ravon Coley, Angela Blackson, Michael Dogby and that's it. So

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Speaker 1: you've got five defensive lineman right now on injured reserve,

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Speaker 1: and you talked about a couple of them are Chard

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Speaker 1: Lawrence and Zach Allen, and of course Jordan Phillips is

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Speaker 1: the big one. I'll miss a couple of more games

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Speaker 1: at least because of that hamstring. Look, it's the middle

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Speaker 1: of the season, it's late in November. You're certainly not

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Speaker 1: going to find someone to solve all of your problems,

795
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: but Cardinals certainly could have done a heck of a

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: lot worse when there's no doubt, and if you want

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Speaker 1: to start thinking about Thanksgiving and food, it's like you

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00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: get that big drumstick and you lose Corey Peters, so

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Speaker 1: you could take a bite out of there. You don't

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Speaker 1: have Jordan Phillips another bite, and then you're signing guys

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00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: that you know obviously have experience, and you're rely on

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00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: some young guys, and then when you get down to

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00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: maybe ten minutes later, there's not a lot of meat

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Speaker 1: on the bone. That's where they are. That's a good comparison.

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00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Of course, now you've got everyone hungry here. That's not good.

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Speaker 1: Apologize about that burgang. Now. The relationship that Peco has

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00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: with defensive coordinator Vance Joseph, we touched on their time

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Speaker 1: together with the Broncos in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: What I forgot and did not know until the press

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Speaker 1: release earlier today. They were also together in Cincinnati for

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Speaker 1: a couple of seasons twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Joseph was the DB's coach at the time, but all

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Speaker 1: coaches they interact with all players, so there is familiarity,

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00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: so perhaps that will ease the transition as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know the Cardinals had an intel on Marcus

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00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: Golden and Josh Morrow and then you look at Jonathan

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00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Joseph has ties to Vance. Joseph. So that's what happens

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00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: when you get to this point where you know somebody's

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Speaker 1: willing to go to bat for you and they're relying

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Speaker 1: on your opinion. It's not like he's saying that, you know,

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Speaker 1: this guy's just at backup, I mean where they feel

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Speaker 1: he can come in and help them. So the more

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00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: of the merrier when it comes to coaches and these guys,

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00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: whether they were younger, it's not too far removed from

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00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: when Advance was a head coach in Denver. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. Just you know just how

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Speaker 1: long he was in Cincinnati and you know the Vance

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Speaker 1: was there, and we know he was in Miami and

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Speaker 1: he was in Houston. So when you get a guy

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Speaker 1: that's been a lot of different places, he has good

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Speaker 1: intel and quite frankly, I think the Cardinals take his

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00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: opinion in value it, Otherwise they wouldn't be signing guys

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00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: that he's had relationships it's not about the buddy system,

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Speaker 1: about can he come in here and help us and

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Speaker 1: the answers. Yes, we'll find out, probably sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals have altered their practice schedule a little bit

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Speaker 1: this week. They'll be on the field Tuesday, Wednesday, off

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00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Thursday for Thanksgiving, them back on the field Friday before

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Speaker 1: taking off for New England that game on Sunday against

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. So also we'll get the real time update

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00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: on Kyle Murray, who's expected to address the media tomorrow,

842
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: as well as we work our way to Week twelve,

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00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: the final six games of the regular season. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it started with a conference call with Bill Belichick today,

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00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: it started with Cliff Kingsbury and I recommend going to

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Speaker 1: Easy Cardinals dot com. Kyle Odegard, Darren Urban do a

847
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: great job pumping out great content. Again one stop shopping

848
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to all our podcasts. But the storyline

849
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: here is the Patriots did draft Cliff Kingsbury. I guess

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Speaker 1: it was a couple of picks after Tom Brady well

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Speaker 1: One thing we learned and I think it is only

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Speaker 1: natural when he's looking across the field. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I mean he learned and we know Belichick

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Speaker 1: can coach every single position at a high level. He

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Speaker 1: cut his teeth as a special team guy and the

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Speaker 1: he kind of takes over where his son, two of

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Speaker 1: be just butterflies and nerve wracking that you're you're going

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Speaker 1: to get. It's a guy that and Cliff ad minute,

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Speaker 1: he knows more football than he'll ever know, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about an NFL head coach. So that's going to

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Speaker 1: be the storyline going in, just how much did Cliff learned?

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to game day, and I do

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Speaker 1: think Kyler Murray's going to be the X factor because

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to take away Hopkins or maybe

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Speaker 1: they're trying to contain the run game. But that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the conversation all week, just how much he

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Speaker 1: learned there. And Cliff went on I R and Bill

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Speaker 1: gave him projects to where you know, he was breaking

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Speaker 1: down film and he said he still uses some of

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Speaker 1: that today with his coaching, and so you know, it's

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Speaker 1: really the you know, the professor and the pupil here.

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Speaker 1: No disrespect to Cliff, but I think it's quite frankly

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Speaker 1: that that's that we're gonna be talking about all week

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna look for it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier. Just getting off to a

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Speaker 1: better start with those scripted plays and learning how to

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Speaker 1: finish because you know, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a close game. They don't They don't beat themselves. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. That they work on situational football

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Speaker 1: all the time. It's it's they use their fridays to

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Speaker 1: work on situation so they don't beat themselves. And we'll

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Speaker 1: just have to wait and see. And you know, can

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Speaker 1: Mitton has been up and down. I think he's better

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Speaker 1: those are gonna be the major storylines and can the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals get back in the winning way to where some

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Speaker 1: of these games coming up, whether their road or home.

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Speaker 1: You got division games, so you definitely don't want to

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Speaker 1: go on a losing street. There is the matchup on

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Speaker 1: the field, and then there is the matchup on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines with respect to the two head coaches, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have more on that as the week progresses. On that note,

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Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our Exact get

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Speaker 1: A producer Jim Almahandro or Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Riel lou.

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