WEBVTT - The Tommy Davidson Episode 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.800 Get up, get th boys. It's back and reoaded all 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.680 in your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.639 the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth, 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.720 the scapegoating. And they ain't knowing we speak the truth. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.479 So they quoted because we wrote it. The North South 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.120 East coat is the gv my. We're keeping your head bobbing. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.880 It ain't no stopping and wants to be dropped head by. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.280 And then the system is so corrupt they throw the 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.560 rock out their hands and then blame it on us. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.800 Don't get it twisted on code and me and dancing 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:44.640 for no buttoment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar facing 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.680 the building. Collectively, we are to get old boys reloaded 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.400 with another episode of information and instructions to help you 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:57.440 get through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. I guess today. Yeah, 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.640 we gotta clasp for him before we say his name. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:07.120 Tommy David said, oh yeah, man, man cot and congratulations, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:13.880 thank you man, your new father. How is that? Man? 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.039 Oh my god? And this and this makes how many kids? 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:25.440 Six six's she's the youngest girl. Three girls, four girls 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.959 now three boys. So I don't know. I'm gonna look 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.320 up a little bit. I'm in love man. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.600 it's your first girl, huh no, this is the fourth one. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:39.560 But this is I'm in love different, different. I got time, Yeah, yeah, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:44.880 it's differently. Yeah, you know when I see it, because 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:50.560 it's like it is you. I got time for you, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.720 Like I got time to be with you, to appreciate you, 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.240 to know, time to time to look at you. You know, 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.520 I got it. It's to the point where, you know, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.320 she she's only two months old. I got him talking basically, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.920 you know, because I can look great at her and 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:16.799 she's like, I can go and she's like, I mean, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.320 she's there. You see what I'm saying, you know, put 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.120 him down, you know, Hey, I gotta go. Hey, you know, Okay, okay, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.359 I'll be back or whatever. She's like, it's a different 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.720 it's a it's different stage from me and just more 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.160 appreciation just from the experience of life. So I'm like, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.320 you know, do you think do you think that that 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:42.320 uh ada, that you will make the other kids a 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:47.360 little jealous? You know, it does anyway, But it's a 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.600 different kind, you know what I mean, It's a different kind. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.880 Like my fourteen year old she was the baby. Yeah, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.360 you see what I'm saying. And so you know, relationships 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.840 look complex. Okay, So her mother, you know, I didn't 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.480 see her, you see, I didn't see her until she 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:08.119 was like three, damn. Okay, then again ten and Christmas 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.040 with the other kids and blah blah blah blah like that, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.280 you know what I mean. So that part of her 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.839 life she didn't get with me. Yeah, do you see 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.519 what I'm saying. So she's sensitive to that when I'm 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.440 when I'm like this, But where where we are? You 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.560 know what I mean saying? She understands how much I 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.320 love her because I got her there with me. You see, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.240 she she she this is the real place, right, It's 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.920 the real place where we get it done in the 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.960 real right. That's how, y'all. That's how. That's what I 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.280 know about, y'all. Yeah, that's what I know about y'all. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.320 So I don't know, go ahead, man, talk ship. We're here. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.880 I couldn't get her. I couldn't get her in my 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.160 life for nothing. Fourteen Now I just got her and 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.280 and um um last August. Was that some ship that 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.080 her mother put in her head about you? That that 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:03.440 that just kind of messes up everything you answer that. Yeah, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.280 so so you know, and and it is what it is. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.680 Life is gonna be what it's gonna be. But because 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.640 I was able to endure that, and that's hard. That 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.320 enduring that kind of stuff is hard because the woman 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.520 never really takes in the fact, takes in the reality 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.520 that we really love our children, we really want them 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.880 with us, like our mother with us. That closeness were 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.320 different kind of black man bred Brandon, black man. All together, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.560 your head, lotion, all that you go to school, all 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.360 this you I'm with you. You know, you gotta learn 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.479 to do this. You clean like all the stuff that 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.960 I had to do. You gotta do all that stuff 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.360 your mind. So when you don't have an opportunity to 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.400 do that and you're not seeing them, and it's a girl, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.680 and you know how the world is with girls, with 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.320 all of this, it's your scared. Yeah, you're scared to night. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.720 You can't you know, it's it's like you're not seeing us. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:59.520 She ain't talking to her, you see. So now she's 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:04.159 with me, so you gotta talk. You know, I learned 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.680 how to talk like my mother would talk to me. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.159 She did take me straight up, what the hell? You know? 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.559 One time. This is the real place, right, so welcome 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.320 to the right. Right, We're welcome to the real place. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:20.200 I'm about I think about fifteen right, ship around the neighborhood. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.360 Older girl had everything, fifteen year old one. Right, she 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.320 in my room. You know, that's a new relationship for 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.080 me and my mother. I'm a teenager or whatever. You know, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.400 I ain't wasn't coming home on time, you know, since 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.720 twelve or whatever. Right, she come my room, and he 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.680 had a real short hair, you know what I'm saying. So, so, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.240 you know, were in the room doing the thing, right, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.520 and my mother came doing what you know, you know, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.040 the naked you know, so you button naked in the 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.840 room in the room, right, my mother comes in the room. Right, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:06:00.240 I'm done. So you got a call right, naked, right 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.040 with your pants down with the girl in my room? Right? 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.200 And yeah right? Oh, so so my mother came in. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:09.880 Excuse me, you know, I guess you were trying to 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.440 come in and say I'm home or whatever. Right, your mom, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:18.120 excuse me in the old house, I mean she that's 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:24.760 my mother. The hell going on in here? That happened to? 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.320 Who do you know? How old my son? How old 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:34.720 are you? No? To hell. Cut hair cut. No, no, no, no, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.080 that's just the beginning fire. I'm wondering what I gotta 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.120 deal with. She's excuse me, like, I'm like, oh man, 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.599 I gotta go outside that door. And then she closed 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.680 the door back. She closed it, do it back. Holy shit, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.840 you're in trouble stairs, you know what I'm saying. So 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.000 I go downstairs and the girl, you know, I tell like, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.440 you know, he hold one about I come in with 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.480 my mother living room, right Mercy. I said, sorry about 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.320 that that new thing, you know. She said, that's all right, 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.760 that's all right. She said, she you're scared she had me. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.159 I said, what do you mean? She said, I thought 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:18.600 that was a dude, A funny. I'm not Fenna having 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:26.560 that ship. Man. You know what I'm saying. She said, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.360 I would. She said, you scared she had me? She said, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.040 I thought that was a dude. I wasn't really deal 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.680 with all that. You see what I'm saying. One thing 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.720 is one thing and the other thing is the whole number. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.840 She basically yeah, just because she was kind of like 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.400 on edge, you know, she was trying to think about 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.559 what she wanted to me. But she realized it wasn't 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.240 a dude. She probably was like, don't get back in 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.360 there and finished, so so so short you we're fine. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.400 She looked me straight in the eyes and said, you know, hey, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.360 you know hey, all right, it's cool. Had me right now, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:11.360 question a question. You're in your room, you get caught 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.880 with your pants down. Mom closed the door. You actually 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:23.960 finished and then went out. Mm hmmm mmm. Let me 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:30.000 tell you. You know you're gonna finish. Let me let 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.319 me tell you something, bro. You finished after she walked 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.760 in the room. I mean, I'm weak, and so she 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.920 walked out of the thing. You stop, its right, Let stop. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.679 When she closed the door, she's there. You got a 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:45.600 couple more strokes and after man, let me bullshit, Tommy, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.240 wait a minute, but I had to stay in the 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:53.160 whole summer for her. No, the whole summer. Say, Mike 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.440 will get it in. Let me tell you something, bro, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.680 My mama would walk in now while I'm a grown 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.880 ass man taught me do or some ship. It wouldn't 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.839 be nor most team left in my boat, like you're 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:09.240 a bold. Mother wouldn't post be home. She was there. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:14.320 She wouldn't post be on. Man, how does a guy 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:21.160 from rolling for Mississippi make it to the national international stage. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.880 How do you how do you get that? Get the 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:35.040 Hollywood were Greenville, Mississippi. It's near. It was down in 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.400 the in the in the in the delta. Yeah, down 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:44.079 the delta. I ended up. I got left in the 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.920 trash when I was a kid, when I was baby, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:52.640 eighteen months old. Man, your your story, your story from 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.920 where it starts to where you are now, there's nothing 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:03.839 short of remarkable. And I mean I was. I'm not 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:09.960 gonna bring that part of the story up. But eighteen 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:14.880 months walking right walking into eighteen months in a trash 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.880 can mm hmm for somebody to grab you and adopt 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.640 you and make you their own and you call them 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.599 your mother and and dude, and and for you to 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.040 start there and end up here? Man, have you ever 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.160 have you ran into your parents from? Oh? Ship? I have? 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:39.760 I was like thirty nine, I had I had my 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:44.000 twenty eight year old with me. Oh he now he 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.839 was a baby. You know. So my mother who raised me. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.760 I found my mother and didn't tell me she found 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.120 her because she used to work for House and Urban Development. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.000 She used to work for for welfare basically well for housing. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.080 So Section eight all a right, so she my mother, right, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:08.520 your mother adopted she was whitey. Yeah, yeah, what do 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.960 you call the lady they gave birth to you? Tommy Jane? Okay, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:17.319 that's rag all name. Go ahead to the country. You know, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.880 she gave my mother gave me a new name. Because 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:27.040 my name really is Anthony Anthony Reid. I'm Anthony Reid 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:32.720 of the Reds from Greenville, Mississippi. Oh you see. But yeah, yeah, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.480 So everybody they see me at the airport, it's a 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.199 slew up all black, the whole you know. Some of 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.280 them looked exactly like you know, and they like, that's Tony. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.920 That show is Tony. That gotta be Tony. Look look 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.120 at him. That is Tony. That's what they call me, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.439 you know what I mean? The ones that knew her 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.360 brothers and her you know when I was you know, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.520 and and and my brother. My brother is if I'm 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.319 my brother, probably about ten years older than that, he 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.880 like six, he said, maybe sixty eight. He was nine 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.719 when when he lost me. See who told you the 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:18.720 story of the trash car? Uh? My mother finally, finally 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:24.120 she told me because she told me she did. She 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:29.760 found me physically there because she was in Mississippi in 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.679 sixty six with her husband there from four College Colorado. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.320 They saw Kennedy on TV. Kennedy said, if you look 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:42.079 back on this time in history, did something about the 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.640 race problem. They were teachers. They were teachers at Colorado 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.959 State with the cowboys, you know that, you know. So 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.400 so they said, let's go, let's go and do something. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.920 So they found imminent immunization program in Greenville where they 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.319 you know, Emmy and as children and voting drive for 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.960 the black community. So they went down there in Greenville 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.319 and did that. They did it for like a year. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:08.079 They met my mother and she was doing voting drives 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.280 and she was young, she was like maybe two. She 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:16.040 already had five kids, you know, twenty two good looking girl, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.280 that's my mother said, you know. And so she worked 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:20.719 with us. She had a lot of zeal, you know. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.920 And they left, but they were doing something else and 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.840 they had to go through Greenville. So she said, let's 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.520 go see Tommy. So they went down there and they 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.960 said she gone, she gone, but we think she left 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:37.200 her youngest son at this house. So my mother knows 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.679 e she d gonna go over there, you know, over there, 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.959 you know, she went over there. It was kids in 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.000 there doing drugs, getting drunk, batting house. So she got 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.520 out of there fast. She walked out. She told me 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.160 that she saw a pile of trash on the side 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.080 of the house that she was walking out. She said 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.000 something told her to look under the tire. There was 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.760 a top tire on top of trash. So when she 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.760 lifted tire up, she saw my foot sticking out the trash, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.760 sticking out the trash, and she moved it. I was there, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.880 you know, flies unconscious, you know, yeah, yeah, I've been 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.600 in the coma. Who knows how long. They took me 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.880 to the hospital. I stayed there for like sixty days, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.640 you know, and they don't know if I was gonna live. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.160 I had cuts, institusions and my skull and ship like that. Right, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:35.400 So I recovered enough. And so she couldn't find the 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.480 mother or the family. So she went to the city 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.760 and said, hey, I'm gonna take them. They said we'll 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:46.600 go ahead, and she did. That just shows the reciliencing 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.040 in this man. Bro. You just refused to give up. Man, 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.480 that's that's so inspirational. Man. Listen, and we all have 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.000 our crosses the bad, right, and we people don't know 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.840 people's story. They just see people and they think they 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.760 know people based on whatever they know them as to 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.560 be as a professional or whatever. But they have no clue. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.720 Like I didn't even have a clue. I knew a 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.120 little bit about your past as for us, like being 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.600 adopted and stuff like that, but I didn't know that. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.160 I didn't know the depth of it. And that's heavy. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.280 That's how we heavy, That's how I went. So I 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:32.880 didn't know I was black. Explain that that's why you're 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.480 comedy white. I know, that's why your comedy is so hilarious, bro, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.880 because they took what you were given and you you 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:48.360 you took limits. It may lemonade bro like it's funny 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.840 now you know you can look back at this ship 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.480 and laugh at it. Bro Man expound on that that 0:15:54.640 --> 0:16:00.160 you didn't know you was black in what regard, No, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.880 because I didn't know what happened. I didn't know because 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.960 when I got to Colorado, you know, I didn't really 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.160 the only thing I really remember as far back as 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.280 I can remember, because I can remember a Christmas tree 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.880 and I remember going out there. Due to Christmas Tree, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.920 I was like through four now you know what I mean. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.000 I grew up in Colorado. I ain't know about white. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.400 I was just a little kid and there was a 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.600 little truck under the tree. I grabbed the truck, and 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.440 my father came out and said that you gotta get 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.640 that later, and I went back to bed. That's like 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.720 the much as I remember about where I was. See, 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.960 so my sister's white, my brother's wife, my mother's white, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.960 my father's wife. But I'm not thinking that white because 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.240 it's just my brother and mother and sister and father. Right, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.720 So you're thinking that your mother naturally had you, right, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.360 because I grew up in in Wyoming, in Colorado, so 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:03.640 so up to four up to five, okay, so you 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.560 know that's farms and streams and animals and all kind 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.680 of ships. So I thought whatever I was, I was 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.800 a brown one or whatever we were. Because the cat 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.440 could have a white cat, could have kittens to have 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.359 a black one, a gray with a speco on the brown, 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.480 so I'm a brown one. Or a horse could be 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.320 a white horse and have a black colt. I'm like, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.760 you know, so I'm brown, I'm a brown one or 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.680 whatever we are. That ship was over because they broke 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.560 up and we moved to d C. When I got 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.800 the d C. I found and I was black. Seem 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:40.359 what happened? We got the d C for anybody who's 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.840 from Washington. We moved. We moved to Trinity South, Uh, Trinidad, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.920 Northeast Okay, northeast Washington. We moved there in six eight, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.359 right when King got shot, like two days after he 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.560 got shot. Riots fires. Me and my sister were in 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.439 the station wagon. My sister bro, we're on the ground, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:00.520 tear gas like all that stuff that just happened. I 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.200 saw it when when I was a kid. That's the 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.480 first thing I saw. I'm like, wait, where are we right? 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.560 So we finally settled in the neighborhood. My mom says, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.720 there's a pool down the street. These kids are gonna 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.879 walk you guys over there. You know we kids, right, 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.760 I mean, man, the black kids kicked our ass. Man, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.280 they jumped us. I'm five, My brothers like eight. My 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.239 sisters were twins. She's the same age. They beat our 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.359 ass all the way home, and they were saying white 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.960 cracker and white cracker lover right, and they kept happening. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.240 We stopped going down the pool. I had you know, 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.440 we're fighting all the time. I'm a white cracker. Lover. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.119 Finally I went to my mother. I said, why are 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:47.000 they saying I love white crackers because I like Graham crackers? See, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.520 And she was like, well, I guess she's gonna tell 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:56.119 me now right. That's because people who are your color 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.800 when they don't like people but they don't like people 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.720 are color, they called them white crackers. You know. I said, well, 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.280 what color am I? You know? She said, you're black? 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.640 Who I said, No, I'm not black, I'm brown. She said, nah, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.920 but that's what we call y'all. I said, but that, 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.320 but that's not the real color I learned in the 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.840 crownds and brown. She said, yeah, I know, but that's 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:24.120 what we call y'all. And that's so we moved because 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:30.320 I mean, I never forget this. My fucker's would come 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:37.800 my brothers, like nine black dudes come boom, busting in 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.800 his mouth, take his bike, and you ain't gonna do 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.120 you know, I'm watching this happen. You see what I'm saying, 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.960 And I'm like, I'm small. I always wanted to wish 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.680 I was bigger because I couldn't do nothing, you see. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.200 So we moved to the suburbs. Weach in Maryland. For 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.680 anybody who from d C. Then you started getting it 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:59.120 from them. Now I'm I'm being chased by grown white man. Yeah, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.119 into the house, truck full of truck full of adults. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.960 Nigga kill them running just getting in the house. They're 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.399 throwing stuff through our window, I mean, you know. And 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:12.840 so I go to my mother, I said, who are 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:19.520 these niggas? We gotta stay away from him. And we're serious, 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.400 you know, And we're serious. You know what I'm saying, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:35.800 you know, yeah, man, hilarious man, man, yeah, yeah, yeah man. 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.760 And she explained it, that's what our people call your people. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.320 We didn't like them. I said, well, what color? You know, 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.359 we're mine and all of this. She said, you're black, 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:50.359 you know. So I was like, this is stupid. I can't. Yeah. 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.480 A lot of ship happened to me during that time, 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.919 man from white guys fucking with me and just all 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.080 kind of ship that I had to do right. So 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.560 we finally moved to the neighborhood. I grew up in 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.600 Silver Spring, Maryland, which is like right on the D 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:07.200 Street d C line. DCS here, my neighborhoods here. And 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:11.840 was this intentional for your mom to try to it was? 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:17.520 She moved me right to the cusp. It's white and black, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.840 but it's there, you know, And that's where I grew 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:24.600 up right there. So we're black enough to be Washington, 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.399 white enough to be all Right, you see what I mean. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.880 So it's balanced right. The white boys chased me, man, 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.200 because I don't know nobody in that neighborhood. When me 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.119 and my sister, it's like a movie. We me and 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:43.040 my sister moved to to h Silver Spring. We went 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.480 in by bear Room. We should love music, man, My 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.960 sisters love music. So we put on remember that song 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.879 Ball of Confusion by Temptation, Do Do Do Do Do 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.640 Do Do? Do you know? I love soul music even 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:03.360 back then. Who we made this song? Uh, we're fit 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.719 to do that, man. And it's a whole new anyway, 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:13.440 so so so so so um um. So I had 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.560 my radio. You know, I was always up with the 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:17.520 music because my mother had me listening to everything because 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.880 I was real talented, even when I was little, like four. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.199 You know. The black people they kind of liked us 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.399 because they're like my mother. It wasn't the ones that 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.200 knew my mother. Was the ones that ain't you know 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:29.000 what I mean that we had to deal with. So 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.280 I'm on the table with a spoon doing say it loud. 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.160 I'm black, and I'm proud I could do the Mustang, 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.800 all of all the dances, read the Franklin you know, 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.600 change chain, chain, I know all that. So and I'm 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.120 I'm five. You know, I'm five. I had this back 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.359 back then. So I get we go to the window. 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.399 We actually sit out the window. We're looking at this 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:53.360 new neighborhood, right, and the music playing, people moving out, 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.840 people moving in. Yeah, all because of the color of 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.560 the skin. Yeah, run run run, But okay, I do 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.520 loose do do do Do do do? But confusion do 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.040 do do do? And me here in the window, like 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:12.200 do do And I'm years later, I'm fifty seven and 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.160 and and and it hit me. You know that moment 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.159 me in her head, you know what I mean? You know, 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:24.560 and it was it was man because you know, we 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:30.359 grew apart man too, because you know, and this happened 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.120 to me this morning. I got off the show. I said, 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:33.720 I'm black, but I really and I said, nigga, you 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:37.399 black with you? You know what I mean? But but 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.920 what goes on in my head? You see what I'm saying, 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:45.560 I'm I'm listening to some other voice that's telling me 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.679 because I was raised by white people, I ain't really black. 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:56.080 That's a societal side. Okay. My mother is the one 0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:00.280 who told me I'm black. M m. You see, she's 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.359 the one that taught me about black. She's the one 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.400 that gave me say it loud. I'm black, and I'm proud. 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:07.920 I remember first grade. I went to first grade. You 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.320 had to say the pledge allegiance. It's the first time 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:12.800 I'm in first grade, you know what I mean. We 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.800 moved from here to here, and now we're here at 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:19.200 the same the new school. When the second huh no, no, no, 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.240 I was in second I was in I was in 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:26.680 seven grade. Second, let's seven grade. Yeah, you know, we 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.200 need to save grade. We can talk about you know 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.800 what that thing, you know what I mean. But you know, 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.680 and so we gotta learn you know, first grade. You 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.600 gotta learned that. You know, our player of leading judi flat, 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.879 you know. So I put up the black belfish and 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:41.480 the teacher was like, what the hell are you doing? 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.680 Black teachers? Did you go on the principal's office. Don't 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.560 do nothing like that in my room. I went down 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.600 to the principal's office. This when I found at my 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.000 mother's crazy. Principal said, oh, so you you think you're 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.440 really funny doing that? Huh, you call your mother. My 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.240 mother came down and she was smiling, and I was like, 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.800 that's when I discovered she kind of crazy, right. She 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.040 was like, what's the problem. He said, he put up 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.000 the black power fist in the class, and my mother said, 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.680 what's wrong with that? He said that were they're learning 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.600 the pledgere lation, she said, but that's all he knows 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:15.000 about him. He knows he's that, he'll do that. He'll 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.840 learn what you want him to learn. But that's what 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.560 he knew about him. He's there to learn what you 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.600 gotta tell him. But he's black, he's proud, and that's 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:29.160 what he knows. That's the first that's the first seed. 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.520 She knew I could read to read good and I 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:37.280 was and seven eight could read a book. She knew 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:41.440 I could, so she Malcolm X Biography and Malcolm X 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.679 lean her Horn, Bury My Heart and Wounded Knee. I mean, 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.239 just handing me books, she said, I know you can 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.800 read it. I read it, talk about it, you know 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:58.000 what I mean. So that was starting to because I 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.440 remember the time she was on the porch and I'm 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.520 over with my friends black neighborhood, you know, and she 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.200 had to come back to the house. She told me, 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.719 you talk so drive now, you know what I mean, 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.440 She told me talking abound. She said, yeah, you just 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.200 got this thing about you were you you know, this 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.960 is another thing, you know what I mean. I was like, well, 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:26.240 you know that's me. She said, yeah, yeah, I know 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:31.800 it is. But you know, get that little thing, which 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:37.720 is not a problem. What became a problem was and 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.520 I had to fight from my sister. My brother was 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:44.359 never ran. See he's older than me. That fight for 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:49.720 my sister is to be like five black girls twelve 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:54.680 years old. We're like eight nine. He said, We're gonna 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.560 whip your sister ass for no reason, for no reason, 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:03.119 My my sister and I'm fighting, you know, four or 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.399 five black girls by my self taking asks whipping a 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.639 whole nine yards. And I'm still like defending her. You 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:14.240 see what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm probably like around 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:19.600 about because I didn't started really changing as a person. 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.399 I ain't really because man, when I moved, when I 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.840 moved to Maryland, you know, I was a really good lottle, 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.119 like I knew, like I was a good kid. I 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.440 had friends, like I loved everybody. You know, it was 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.720 like it was. It was when I turned eight, all 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.600 all all, all the black people from DC started moving 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.959 into my neighborhood. You see what I'm saying. Even though 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.040 the neighborhood was mixed, was mixed with African and all 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.640 of this, I had to deal with a whole another thing. Yeah, 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.520 I even turned my back on my little friends. Man. 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.880 It liked me so much, man, because we're not when 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:55.200 when when I was fighting by myself okay, and I 0:27:55.359 --> 0:28:00.679 wasn't big enough, okay, but I hooked up with some boys. 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.720 So my friends when I we we all met when 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.560 we were nine. We've been friends since we was nine. 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:11.800 So we was that that, you see, Yeah, And so 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.800 that that was different from me than my brother. I 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.359 was different than my brother. I was different than with 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.760 my sisters in that way. Is your brother and sister 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:28.640 still you know reachable today? My brother's my brother died. Yeah, 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:34.359 you and your sister really still close? Man? And her 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.359 like Bonnie and Clyde. I told you we're like twins. 0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.640 Is your mom still no? She died too, So it's 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.280 just us too, just me and my sister. Sorry, bro, Yeah, 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.560 I always think about them. This morning it was just us. 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.760 Said no, I had met them. I got. I got 0:28:55.000 --> 0:29:01.520 to like real, I got, he said, dollars blood, Yeah, blood. 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:06.320 I got four sisters and two brothers. Okay, you know, 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.480 and I didn't know that we're grown up. I've never 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.280 seen my black family. You know. My family was that 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.520 family you know with your siblings you grew up with. 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.760 It was it was it was two. It was three 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.160 my brothers, sister and me and my mother because they 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.120 broke up, so it was just us, you know. So 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.320 that's when I started to change. But I didn't change 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.600 for the worst. I just you know, we broughatly of 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.400 our environment, you know, so I just had to do 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.240 what I had to do as as as a as 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.800 a a black man in American man. Hey, you got 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:43.920 the information, and hey, you know we we we we 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.800 we you know in the neighborhood. You know, now I 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:51.000 got them six. You know, we think of Steve's so 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:57.960 ain't the more jumping me any more? That? Yeah, damn, 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.200 we was fair. You know, we had to. Somebody has 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.560 something within one of us or whatever they can straighten 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.480 it whatever, but no one else is gonna you. I 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:12.880 ain't gonna tell you. So I mean, I think I 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.680 think people should jump. People don't want I mean I want, 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.760 I want it. No no, no, no, no no no, 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:22.880 you win. You gotta win that finish. I said, you 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.000 win by any meaning. If I if I know my 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.400 I know my brother fin to fight some dude that 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.440 I know they can whoop my brother. We ain't taking 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.320 the whales, bro, now hold on, We're not taking their 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.520 old on. And that's the truth. Now, I said. With us, 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.200 it was like, hey, if it's a one on one situation, whatever, 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.360 but no one could come up to us if we're 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.440 not in my neighborhood. No one can come up to 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.239 us if it's the one on one one of us. 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.760 If you got two people that want to fight, it's different. 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.880 If it's two people that want to fight each other 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.280 and y'all want to go ahead, go head up. But 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.200 you're talking about trying to ride on my people or 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.040 something like that, that's gonna be a totally different stories. 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.000 Is that I give you. I give you an example 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:09.240 for my sister. My sister. All right, little du Jerry, 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.959 you know you know short stocky whatever. You know, you're 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:16.840 like we like we like to Joan and DC. I 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:18.080 don't know what they call it here they call it. 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.280 They call it the Joan here ranking here Joan and 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.680 is busting in LA or whatever. Your dozens of snapping 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.760 in New York whatever. So you know we did that. 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.840 So she'm whipping your ass at the school. You do 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.880 it to Jones and I mean, huh, you go to 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.400 j King at d C. We got the Jones after 0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.840 this ship is over. Yeah, I'm the king. Yeah, you 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.760 don't want to do that. You saw me last name. 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.640 I'm the King. I'm a professional. That's like me going 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.400 to Jordan's. That's like, that's like me going to Michael. 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.240 Jordan's said, let's play one on one man. Yeah, I 0:31:52.280 --> 0:32:02.880 ain't handled towards growing up up, we all we did well, 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:08.200 talked about each other. Man. So after you know, damn 0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.480 where I got going? You better because I was gonna 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.440 get on your head. But go ahead, right, you're done, 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:25.400 You're done. You've got twenty minutes beyond. So so um, 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.680 you know after it's an example. You know me at 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.080 the bus stop, everybody want to see it. You know, 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.680 everybody there, everybody there he's you know, it was bigger 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.120 than me. But you know, whatever, right, I'm holding my own. 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:48.320 But I tripped over the sidewalk and it was a faucet. 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.400 They didn't have a knob on it, and I failed 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.760 and I hit my head. You know, I was like, oh, man, 0:32:55.960 --> 0:33:03.200 when I looked up, he was right white flash. I 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:08.120 looked man, my sister and then then when when it 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.080 was over, they all they jumped them, you know what. 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.200 My sister was like, whatever, you know what I mean. 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.560 So so it's like, you know, when you're in that 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.280 situation that that don't make you black neither white, but 0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:27.560 identified it as such, you see, identified it as such 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.520 has nothing to do with anything else other than you 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.320 become who you are from whatever. I mean, you you 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:38.680 built out or whatever. But I was in that value 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:43.000 system where I was thinking, I'm talking about me. I 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.920 was thinking, in order for me to be black like 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.920 the dudes that I grew up around, I had to 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:55.120 be that, you see. So I went and did trifling things. So, 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:56.720 I mean, I did all kind of stuff, and my 0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:58.680 my mother was moving away from me. Man, she was 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.520 like she wasn't understanding what I was going through. Really 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.840 what I mean. But this is what I want to know, Like, 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.640 how how is it that you so like willingly accepted 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.759 that if I want to be black and identified with black, 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.239 I gotta act like a criminal and do these crazy things, 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.400 but not associate that with whiteness. Because white folks are 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.520 criminals too, Like they do a lot of they commit 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:31.919 a lot of crimes. Yea even been made. Yeah, because 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.640 I'm just in my little pot trying to survive. And 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:39.560 you also probably you also probably being having these type 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.840 of negative thoughts about black people being reinforced by the media. 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.680 You're seeing certain things in the media and hearing certain 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.359 things at school, probably even from teachers or something, because 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.520 because I know some of those teachers are, they could 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.719 be as as bad as any enemy that you could have. 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.960 It could be. Uh. I thought you was the drummer 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:09.319 from the muppage man. Yeah, you know, scam me. I think, 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:14.360 what are you doing here? Man? For those of you 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:25.719 who can you cannot see it? Yeah, animal, yeah you know. So, 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:33.640 So if everything everything is as you learn, you know, uh, 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:39.799 hindsight is always I was in that situation, you see, 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.719 even though I knew better, it doesn't matter because I 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.759 was in this situation. So I had. I had read 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.920 Claude Brown Man Child in Promise Land. Right, it's a book. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.880 It's about Claude Brown, who was in the detention system 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.080 in New York City, you see what I'm saying. So 0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.160 I read that probably when I was probably about oh, 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.840 you know, and I was like, Okay, what do you 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.640 went through? That? Is that? That the other thing? And 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.920 blah blah blah blah blah. And you know, my neighborhood 0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:15.719 was Weed neighborhood and Coke neighborhood. You know, uh, you know, hey, 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.399 you know use these whatever DC we boxed. That's we're 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.960 like in Florida like football, you know, right, And in 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.800 the Texas they like football, you know. You know in 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.719 d C we like boxing. Yeah, that's that's that's what 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.000 we do. So it's about what you got here, you know, 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.840 So learn what you need to learn, you see. So 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:40.000 I'm thinking all of this but knowing it's it's it's 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.560 God man that I got put in the in the 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.120 right soil, in the right soil and then had the 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:50.400 kind of experiences that I had to be able to 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:55.520 come to the river the revelations to understand the things 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.399 he's talking about. And it took a little minute because 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.080 I was putting them all together, because my family was 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.200 helping me put them together. See, white people are with 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:10.080 the camera. There are nothing and not the same, you know. 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.560 And if I take that attitude, then I'm against a 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.520 whole lot of people with a whole lot of power. 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.080 I gotta take a look at individuals, even though they 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.279 don't got to do that with me. But for me 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.200 to be able to negotiate my way around, I gotta 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.920 be able to do that because because I found not 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.960 that our distinction is just this. So I'll give an 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:36.040 example from last night. I was at the club. We're 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:37.800 having a good time. He was there, Ladies said just 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.239 that and everything right, And so a group of black 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.400 people came up to me and there was from cameraon. 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.760 I know about cameraon. I'm I'm exposed to cameroon because 0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.520 the people I work with been there before this that 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.200 another thing. And I had a whole separate kind of 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.719 conversation with them, a whole separate kind of conversation with 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.520 them then I would have with us, because we're a 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:02.080 different brand a black people, although we're black. Okay, Like 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.920 I Hatian in Miami, y'all in the h I'm a 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:11.160 niche because of what happened with me. I'm a nigologist, Okay, 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:17.239 a nigologist. I ain't find out about y'all. I ain't 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:22.879 find out about y'all. Tell like, y'all, tell y'all because 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.680 the only thing I knew was that Artie Bill and 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:33.719 Drells about Houston. Billy who Warren Warren y'all? Yeah, how 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.760 how I'm just saying blowing that with the Bills Thorough 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.360 we call him Thorough Campbell, Thorough Campbell, tear away Jersey, 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.239 watch out, Donny Shell Bam. That's what I knew about you, 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.040 but I ain't know using like this though, I ain't 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.919 know you was like DC. When you come from where 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.920 you come from, you think you you know, you're the 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.959 only little corner, you know what I mean. I ain't 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.919 gonna tell y'all. Yeah, you know, DC is, like I said, 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.960 the biggest market. It's like at first, I second big 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:08.879 fluctuates between d C in Chicago, Man Cleveland there too, 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:13.920 now well clean, yeah, the Cleveland is Yeah. If you 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.040 say it like that, then you also have Dallas is 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.200 in there and Houston is in there. But I didn't 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:20.759 get to see it, like we just made it. We 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.320 just made it a really we made a nice solid 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:27.800 market um in in all of the neighborhoods that that 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:33.320 are reflected, you know, the same images that were reflected 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.759 in our our neighborhoods. They love us. Yeah, and y'all 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.879 was able to do that and that motherfucker sound. See 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:44.680 that's where I said, oh, yeah, no, I can't go 0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:49.279 down there, like you know, no you go down They're like, hey, 0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.320 I'm regulated or whatever. Like I'm thinking, I am anyway, 0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:57.080 what you gonna do? Right? But but I didn't really 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.480 really really know that it was like that here. I 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.600 I even came here. I even came here um earlier 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.560 doing comedy before we live in color. You see what 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.560 I'm saying. And didn't know that. See, so your eyes 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.360 get open to how similar we are, you see what 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:19.480 I mean. So I even heard it just the other 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:25.160 day and it just hit me about the song. It 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:29.800 just hit me about the song my worst fears I 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:38.919 may come real in my head. That's the song. That's 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.560 the song, But it's each of y'all's interpretation of that ship. 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.759 You see what I'm saying, And I ain't even we've 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.960 all been there, rabbits whatever, we've all been there with 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.800 you might think this that that you might be and 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:56.959 you're thinking it's real. Man, he's talking about on fans. 0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:06.320 Hold on, hold on, dude, I do do do. I 0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:16.520 learnt dings a doo doo doo ding dootings do doom, 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:24.479 I learn loom d dooms. Won't play, don't walk the link, 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:33.000 won't do I'll do do do. Okay, that's what I'm talking. 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.640 Speaks a whole lot of language. Man. I never quite 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:45.880 hurt that nobody backed on the eight a weight like 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:51.680 that much. You know, they're like, doom do A little 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:56.840 lootle question, Man, at what point does the comedy start 0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.879 in your life right away? At what? At what point 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.160 do you because, like you said, you were Jones Jones, right, 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.840 But at what point do you get there and you 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.920 say I want to do that for a living? What 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.600 are you doing at that moment? I got lucky, Yeah, 0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.680 I got lucky. Um. I got a job at the 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:27.200 Remota end okay Um as an assistant chef. I had 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.840 an apartment, two cars, had doson beat you ten and 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:36.920 and Toyota Selleca and the Remota n page you like that. 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.520 I made it work. I made it work because I 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.959 got thrown at the house when I was fourteen because 0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:44.919 my mother found all this stuff under my bed. She said, 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.400 you can't come back until you get a job. And 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.560 I went out there thinking, oh, man, I don't even 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.200 you know, I could just hang now. And I went 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.080 to live with the guy who used to keep us 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.200 out of trouble, you know. And so me and my 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.480 friends decided we're gonna stick up a mopad shop. I'll 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:00.960 tell my daughter that this morning, because you don't want 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:05.520 to listen. She fourteen, So you know, at everybody, I 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.359 get caught, I get brought back to his house, right, 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.759 but he run everything and he's embarrassed me. Man, we'll 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.399 be in the rex cent and playing pink pong or whatever. 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.279 He said. Man, y'all, hey, man, lead that lead that 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.000 boy along. He would have been through some ship. I'm like, 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.680 why he keeps saying that? Man? He was saying, Bill, 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.520 what you keep telling him? Mad man? He said, you 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.279 have But at the time I'm not knowing right. But 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.440 he loved me. Man. I went to live with him 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.040 and his family. I wouldn't go home the next day 0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.360 because man, they clean mooning. My mother made his clean up, 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.880 you know. But I thought it was cool. I get 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:37.640 to hang out and all of this. Right, the police 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.840 brought me to his house, he says, something never forget. 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.319 I walked in the house. You know. The police took 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.840 me to his house, not to jail, right, And he 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:52.880 came out the back. You know, is sight right. I 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.040 had later reform me to put the dog on me, 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:56.920 and you know, you know whoever was trying to you know. 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.160 So so he come out the back telling my daughter 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.400 that this mom made her remember me telling her that, 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.840 Oh yeah, you know. So so he came out the 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:12.279 back and they said, Mr, you know, Mr mcmiller, this 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.399 is your son. And he said, yeah, I was kind 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.800 of scared. He said, yeah, yeah, it is, it is 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.600 it is. He said, all right man, Well he's all 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.800 yours man, He said all right man. So when I 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.520 closed the door, I thought he was gonna be like, nicky, 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.799 you need to do and do you know, he turned 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.200 his back went back to bed. He did even look back. 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.759 He said you know what time, he man, one day 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.360 you got to take responsibility for your goddamn south and 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.440 went to bed. That's the first time they just started thinking, 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.560 how did y'all rob the moped place? What did you 0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:45.800 I didn't. They never let me carry one. But the 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.520 other guys, my friends never did they go to jail. No, 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:54.200 they got away. They got away. You brought you home 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:58.640 instead of sitting right right. Yeah. So so he says 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:00.879 to me, I'm I need you to the point though. 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.000 How I got lucky. But this was a small town. 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.640 It was this DC. Yeah so so so so you know, 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.800 I'm fourteen right from tent from we met when he 0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:16.160 was nine. Okay, so and I'm with them all the time, 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.520 you know. So he turns his back and he says, 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.120 one day you gotta take response before you goddamnself. Man. 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.440 And it had an impact on me, you know. And 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.920 his older his older son had a job at a hospital. 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:32.439 He he had he had the hospital scrubs and brand 0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:34.360 new Ada white of DTAs. He needs to be the 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:36.800 cool dude. So we're out there fighting and stuff like that. 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.160 And I come home. You know, yeah, we've been fighting. 0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:40.520 We've been fighting, and he's like, man, that's why I 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.960 stopped going out there with him. Niggas say what you 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.879 know I'm thinking? You know, yeah, he told me, look, 0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.160 you know you got job this summer. You know, chain gun, 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.440 you lost your shoe. He said that with him, and 0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:00.080 it started occurring to me, like, so my mom to 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:01.320 let me back in the house. But I had to 0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.640 get a job. So I got my first job and said, 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.239 I have my friends. You should laugh at me because 0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:10.120 I come home with them. I haven't pancakes stuff on me. 0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.960 They like jeans and theaters, you know they you know 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.040 he he, he used to call me. You know, he 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:17.920 was very dough boy and ship you know what I mean. 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:29.960 I'm like, yeah, whatever, Yeah, he got a blue dart 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.279 with him. How many times you get in the mom 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:37.200 so so so I built myself up, man, you know, 0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.920 I didn't build myself up, but that helped. So I 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:45.439 ended up with an apartment. See, and my friends ain't 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:46.960 come over to my apartment. They come for a second 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.680 and gone, you know, doing whatever they're doing. So my 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.879 friend Howard, who grew up with me, I called him 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.960 when I got this job from her outer end. Howard 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.520 had Lemon brothers and sisters. You need the poorest, dude, 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.919 I know. I mean they had moving blankets on nate bed. 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.120 You know the blankets they used for when you moved. 0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.879 That was on their bed. Yeah, that was their bed. 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.480 My grandmother made those with my great great grandmother made those. 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.200 They were quilts. Yeah, yeah, just big giant industrial. Yeah, 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.640 they had them on their bed. They didn't have nothing, right. 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.120 So I grew up with him, you know, and he 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.640 always thought it was funny. He always thought it was talented, 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.120 you know. And I called him because he were my 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.759 best friends to know him since I was eight or whatever. 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.279 He moved a lot, he and I called him. I said, man, 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.759 I got a job as a rebody and man as 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:40.120 an assistant. Yeah, he told me, and you the stupid 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.879 and Nick, I haven't met my motherucking lifetime. You're trying, mom. 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.560 He said, you can be in Hollywood right now because 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.080 Eddie's Murphy's Delirious came out, you know. He said, Man, 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:55.000 you're getting funk with you. He said, man, you're funny 0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:56.440 as hell. Do you know that? Man? You can be 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.640 doing this, you can be doing that, and you can 0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.600 sing and you get this. And I'm like, man, you man, 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.960 you ain't got no job. Right called me. He said 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.600 he's the worst strip club in DC. He called me 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.200 and said I talked to manager and letting me on 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.279 stage at the Penthouse. I was like, I ain't going there. 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.960 And there he said, man, come on, came out of 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.440 my house, took the bus to my house. Okay, I'll 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:21.440 leave out the house with him. Boom, my radiator buses February. 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.279 He got on the bus, looking right at me, sat 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:26.480 me back next week. You may be ready this time, 0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:28.400 I radiot to fix. He come over. I go to 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.759 the club. Right walking to the club, the managers, I 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.799 got lucky man. Man, you just standing there right. Man 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:37.840 just said this the dude right here man and how 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.560 I said, yeah, that's him. He said, you got five minutes, man, 0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:42.960 he said, the worst strip club in d C. Right. 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.480 So I turned to Howard. I said, man, Howard, what 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.560 do you want me to do? You look at me? 0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.280 He said, I don't care what you do. Just say something. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.640 I swear because God is my witness. From the first 0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:02.120 thing I said, people died laughing, and I never stopped. 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.080 How killed in that place. How do you get people's 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:09.880 attention at a strip? You got dudes that they did 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:14.000 all that interested interested in? Is that's right? Right? All 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.560 that interesting and it's getting money right at this point 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.359 for five minutes that nobody's getting no money. Nobody's getting 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:22.000 no honey. How do you get their attention. I did 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.080 you know I did. I just told I just told 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.520 him a real story. Do you remember it? Yeah, what 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.520 you say? I said my mother? I said, we had 0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.800 roaches a lot of roaches everywhere in the house. My 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.640 mother told us, you know, if you clean up the kitchen, 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.200 you wouldn't have no roaches. So she made us stay 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:43.920 home all weekend and clean the kitchen, and sure enough Monday, 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:48.120 we had no roaches. Right. But I found out they 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:52.719 was eating our couch because when me and my sister 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.759 wind to watch cartoons, we looked on the hill and 0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:00.800 the move they moved from the kid into the couch, 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:05.600 and many they roared in that bitch and everything I 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:09.080 said was the real you see. And it was like 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.400 I knew singers and what nobody doing singers? You know. 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:16.560 I found out nobody was doing singers afterwards. But I 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.800 knew how to do these because I used to do 0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:21.200 when I was little. So my mother will say, stopped 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.759 and she said stopped all that, you know, until she 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:25.960 saw outro one time on TV. She said, do that again. 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.400 She said, you might have something there, you know, But 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.719 I didn't think about it. But I was around when 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:35.680 this song first came out. I so tired of belong 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.800 I'm so tired of being wrong. Don't you helped me? 0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:45.560 Girls soon as you can. You know I used to 0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.480 do that when I was a little kid. You know, 0:50:48.120 --> 0:51:05.279 umdunes done real well whatever, We're there, girl, you got it, 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:12.320 you know. Deeba deeba. Here the looks off on my face, 0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:19.200 sweet on, sweet on the Carolyn lousy is on my face, Sweeter, 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:23.280 I'm sweet. You know that's from Soultree watching it, watching 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.440 Berry watching so I had it. It was it was 0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:30.080 like like opening the can and it was like all there, 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:37.400 you know, peeboe me. He just turns into a totally 0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:44.040 different person. Feel the fire, yeah, you know, to get 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:59.799 the balloon polluting the wounds, Google liding blue, blue, loom, looming, banging, 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.600 ain't bound. It's a shame that when you went the 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:08.440 man edge man. It's a shame. Wy you hurt me. 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.839 You know it wouldn't that, nobody wouldn't It turned into 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.640 a totally different person, man, turn into a very different 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:20.200 person on it. How many times do you play this 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:23.839 strip club before you find your way into a comedy club? 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:29.080 Like shit so much? Yea? And what's the name of 0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:36.680 this comedy club Penhouse d C Georgia Avenue, right right 0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:40.440 down street from Howard University and it was the worst. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.600 They had the guards outside. He had t shirts swear 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:47.640 the teachers on the back seat don't shoot me. Wow, 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.920 you know as a joke, you know, you know it 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.440 was right there, right there. And how long do you 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:56.640 play this comedy club before you moved to Where do 0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:58.879 you go first? I don't. I don't never play comedy club. 0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.600 I only went to DC, only played one comedy club 0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:03.880 or two and the comedy club I went to, I 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:08.319 met Martin there, I met Dave Chappelle. There no at 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:09.719 a comedy club the first time I went to a 0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:11.360 comedy club and DC. Somebody said, you need to go 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:15.719 to comedy club. Well, pen Houses a comedy club club. 0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:18.319 I actually like, when when's the next time you went 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.920 to a Okay, like four months from from that to 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.360 four months comedy club? Yeah, but I was killing in 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.520 there and I was killing that concerts. He promoters found 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:29.200 out about me. So you so you go to so 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:32.279 you go to the comedy club time and you meet 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:36.080 Martin Lawrence, he's there, You're on the stage. Yeah, I 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.640 got on stage and he loved it. Did you really 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.839 know each other really, Yeah, he hadn't know hol Eddie 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.200 Murphy Kit. How long did you? How long did you play? Yeah? 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.840 He had you know, the Deaders were just right and 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:52.560 then Golden Head? How long? How long did you play there? 0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:56.839 Before you catch the break? And what's the break? Who 0:53:56.920 --> 0:54:00.360 gave you a break? All black men gave me to 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:05.719 break All black man. It started with Robert Townsend. He 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:10.359 saw me. He put me on Partners in Crime. Yeah, 0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.640 he saw you. He saw me at the clubs in 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:19.239 l A. I'm trying to he gonna move. So I 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.279 started doing so good in d C. I started opening 0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:27.640 for concerts Freddy uh Uh, Melbournemore, Evan Champagneking, Patty Bluebell. 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.080 So I'm sort of getting known throughout the city. You 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:32.080 see what I'm saying. Also, did Go Go music, So 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.480 Little Go Go album it was hot one summer for 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.600 the whole summer. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So I had that. 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:41.120 So I'm bubbling, you know. But I never played a 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.440 comedy club, so people said you need to play a 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.360 comedy club, which I never played before. So I have 0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:47.680 a comedy club. It was different, you know than what 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.239 I was doing. So the first comedy club. I went in. 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.120 Martin was there, Dave Chappelle was there. First time I 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.000 met him. I did comedy. I did good. I think, 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:58.160 what's the comedy? Um, I think it's Garvin's. So Dave 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.880 Chappelle actually been talking about it on YouTube about the 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.239 first night that he met me and Martin you've been 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.160 talking about Yeah, at Garmen's right, he gave me a 0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:12.080 good compliment. I appreciate that too. That's my man right there. 0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:15.839 He be kind of scared of back in the day. 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:17.239 He used to live in my neighbor who he grew up. 0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:22.200 Long story, so so so, so I went to the Apollo. 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:25.320 I said, you can, you can win the Apolo. So 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:27.319 I went to Apolo and Apolo was different. It wasn't 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.120 like TV and TV the clown come out all the time. 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:34.680 The real Apollo, the clown never came out because everybody 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:38.080 was serious. So I went down to the last person 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:42.280 on that just doing comedy. I'm being singers, I'm making everything. 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:44.440 So they want to sign me, you know, I go, 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.160 We're gonna make a record deal with you. To say 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:48.280 to ohing. But I've met a brother named st Clair Jones, 0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.520 my first manager, a really good friend of mine, and 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:55.799 he told me, hey, man, you can do it all. 0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.000 He said, you could do movies, TV, you can write 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:00.680 your own ticket. I'll take you to l And I 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.279 paid for your ticket for like a week and you 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:04.960 like it, would you let me manage you? I was like, 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:11.160 you know, we went out there s everybody here, came 0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:15.320 off everywhere we went in l A. Over. Did you 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:19.160 ever play bird Land? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I used to. 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.839 I used to go. I'm trying to say if if 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:25.200 I haven't, was the turnout, yeah, because I used to go. 0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.120 At one point I started I would go to bird 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:32.040 Land any weekend that we wasn't on tour and I 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.160 didn't have something to do, I would fly to bird 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.200 fly to l A. And I would live with my homeboy, 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:42.800 Reggie Johnson was middlewe champ of the world. So I 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:44.680 would live at this house in Lone Beach and we 0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.799 go to uh to Bland on the weekend. And man, 0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:53.319 I'm talking about everybody, Yeah, yeah, de yeah, all of us. Yeah. 0:56:53.560 --> 0:57:00.240 It was liked who else, Jamie, Jamie, all these guys, 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.399 all these people. Man, you know that was the place 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.680 none of us had TV shows, nobody had Yeah, tell me, 0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:09.000 so you saw it? You saw it. You saw that. 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.680 I remember, Yeah, that was get on the stage for 0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:16.880 fifty bucks. You know what I'm saying, I go and 0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:21.000 sometimes free if if it was a crowded man, that's right. Yeah, 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.440 you're gonna do what you gotta do. Burn Land, I mean, 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.080 anybody that missed that, that was an experience. That was 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.920 one of the greatest comedy experiences for me because Birdland, 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:32.720 if you with the bird Land, the heckless sometimes was 0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.480 better than the act on stage. To be ready, the 0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:40.600 heckless was cold. Be ready there would l know what 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.760 I about Long Beach neither, you know, that's what trought 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.840 me about Long Yeah, Oh my god, I got me cavil. Yeah, 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.960 so so so you so you you played Long Beach 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.720 and you started playing on the club And how does 0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:57.160 in Living Color happens? Because that's what we got introduced 0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:01.160 to New York or l A New York, I mean 0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:03.880 l A because Jennifer Lopez is from New York and 0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.720 she was a dancer on there, so traveled across the 0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:12.200 country too. She used to go to Keenan. Yeah. Yeah, 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:16.520 so they were in a relationship when she got one. 0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:18.240 I don't know that, you know, I want to be 0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:22.720 on record. It's nice saying that's because that she got 0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.760 that she that you know what I mean. But I'm 0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.919 mad I mat her in New York. But they were dating. 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:29.240 At some point he brought her to me, I mean, 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:32.400 my trailers drinking business man of my business. He said, 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.680 you know, I'm I'm here, come on, come on, my 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:39.240 trailer man. He brought her up and there I was like, man, 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.680 so he brought up. He brought up to offer her 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:50.120 to you know, he brought her this dude with wasn't 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:51.640 offer you know what I'm saying. But I was working 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.400 with Hallie, so I was you know, said yeah, yeah, 0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.360 I was working at Halley. My boy Papa was my boy. 0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.960 Me and Pappa me puffing and have we up all 0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:03.560 night at the clubs New York. So you know, it's 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:07.920 it's it, that's it's a situation. Yeah. Andre Horrell to 0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.520 produce in the movie. It's I'm right there. You know, 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:17.360 he was running up town and h Andre uh, Andre's 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:22.280 best friend Russell, you know, yeah, Puff was Andre's assistant. 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:24.880 Puff was my person on the movie who takes me everywhere. 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.720 Was my sitting and all that. So you know, I'm 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.360 feeling good at this point, you know he did it 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:33.520 was your assistant. Yeah, I'm a movie. Start now. Listen, 0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:36.360 boys and girls. I don't say like that, man, No, no, no, 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.160 I'm not gonna rub it. I'm not gonna do it 0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:40.480 like that. I'm just letting people know that there's levels 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:42.440 to this. You know, some of these youngsters and stuff, 0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:44.200 they want to come into the game and they want 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.200 to start all the way. If they can't get to 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.160 if they can't start at the top, they don't even 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.840 want it, and so and so. You know, this is 0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:57.840 indicative of what could happen, and you humble yourself. I 0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:02.320 got humped by him. Yeah, yeah, I humble by him. 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:06.120 Humility is well, humility is something that you know, you 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:09.000 tied that around like a belt around you. Like forgiveness, 1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:10.880 you gotta carry it rich Man. It works if you 1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:13.240 use it, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, 1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:14.840 it works if you use it. It's like having a gun, 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:17.440 you know, you know, don't take it out nless you 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:19.680 mean it or whatever, because what happens when you take 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:23.200 it out? You know. But forgiveness and humility works the 1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:26.640 same way. But there's not disaster behind it. You know, 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:30.680 you get to get to live more fulfilling life because 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:34.560 you know you have bullets in your life chamber that 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:38.440 help you grow as a person and understand, so you 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:42.120 don't turn the stone thinking, oh, this person is here 1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:46.200 and I'm here now and he was here if you're 1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:49.800 thinking in levels, and I'm glad you said that, because 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:55.000 it's levels. I knew he was smart from Jump Street. 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:58.640 I knew Puffy was smart from Jump I knew it 1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:00.640 from Jump Street because he took me all the clubs, 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:03.520 all the New York clubs, underground clubs, and he was 1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:05.320 telling me, we we're riding down there. He said, Man, 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:08.200 this this this group ain't even signed, Tom, you gotta 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:10.960 see them. I was like, really, I go down there 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:15.080 leaders in the New School, busting all of them. And 1:01:15.120 --> 1:01:18.360 he told me we got some good m season in 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:20.600 the group. Man, and I've gone in there a couple 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:22.960 of times. He said, but I think it's gonna be 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:25.040 bust man. I think Bus gonna be the one that 1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:27.360 break from that. I mean, I was like, Noah, I 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.760 like to see Brown. Dude. Brown got nice with it. 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:31.960 He's like, Nah, busting is different, you know what I mean. 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:37.280 That's why I went by Nick is mad. I get 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:40.240 more boots to Nash trade fu the fed wall to 1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:43.600 get him on the fast way ski masks where nigga 1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:47.920 rass some no damn him hands damnit nigga boom boom 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:51.520 more gun and Rods is rolling in and then busting 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:56.000 my flag your ear leaf. See hey, hi, you know 1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.720 what I'm saying that he knew that back then. He 1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:01.480 was telling me before they was even signed, and the 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:04.880 years that they became stars. And then Buster did the 1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:10.600 what the remix of flavoring Year of Craigs with l 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:18.440 Boy Scout uh Big who was in the jump. You 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:22.640 know you like sports bro like you know, it was 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:26.760 like I got taught to in in in a in 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:29.240 a continuum, you see what I'm saying, Because I'm like, 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:32.720 you know, you discover how small somebody is over time. 1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:36.960 He said that, you said, and I bet Buster back 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:38.600 then and we don't go to clubs and all that. 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:40.120 I knew him back again, you know what I mean, 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:44.000 But I hadn't seen you know, I knew that he had. 1:02:44.440 --> 1:02:46.000 You know, but when you're see him with a group 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:48.040 or whatever. You know what I'm saying, You're like, Okay, 1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:53.160 but puff knew that Pop saw that. You see what 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:56.360 I'm saying, it's not the individual. You know, if you're 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:58.520 in a producing role, then that's how you need for that. 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:02.400 Saw how you need for that because you're packaging stuff, 1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:04.160 you know what I'm saying. So you're going for you know, 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:11.280 you know your slave, Uh either either you slave purchaser. 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:13.720 You know what I mean? You know, yeah, I can 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:15.560 tell by his shoulders what country is he from? You 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:18.280 goett kid him six? Um, yeah, he's you know what 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:21.640 I mean. In order to get him all on one place, 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.040 to get the cotton out, you gotta know the you 1:03:24.040 --> 1:03:26.560 know what I'm saying. So so that's and he told 1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:29.959 me at a high top fade and I had to peek, 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:33.000 you know, he said. And we ride into to say, said, yo, 1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:35.200 cut that you should cut that. You know. I was like, Man, 1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:36.920 I ain't cut my peak. Man. He said, yeah, but man, 1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:40.040 on screen, that's gonna look big man. I was like, Man, 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:41.880 I'm from DC. Mannna keep my you know you're from 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:45.240 New York. I'm from DC. Right right at the premier 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:48.280 of the movie when the movie, you know, I got 1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:51.959 on the screen. Man, this thing was like it looked 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:56.080 like a shark fin on my booking four. I said 1:03:56.120 --> 1:04:00.440 that it's smart. He got an eye what I'm saying. 1:04:00.480 --> 1:04:04.200 So when you're saying that, you're right, you see. But 1:04:04.280 --> 1:04:09.200 I learned that from Mario van Peebles, another legend. I mean, 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:13.200 not Mario Melvin were both both of a legends. But 1:04:13.280 --> 1:04:16.120 I'm I'm on the plane coming back to Canada and 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:19.400 I'm on the down, you know, I'm going through whatever, 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:22.680 everything bad, right, and I'm going back to l A. Man. 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:25.000 I'm wanting to myself, Man, I had I had kind 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:27.840 of a bad, bad experience with Booty Call, you know, 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:33.840 and I'm going home. This is a joke movie. You're crazy, 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:36.800 Jamie turned that shot out, I said, the experience so 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:43.360 so so I get back. I'm going back from Canada 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:46.640 to l a five hour flight and I'm in my 1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:49.200 head and I'm you know what I need to do? Max? 1:04:49.440 --> 1:04:51.720 You know I mean that I'm down, man, I gotta 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:54.000 go back home with the kid. What was the bad experience? 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:57.040 Before we get too far away? Bad experience just trying 1:04:57.080 --> 1:04:58.600 to reach out to stuff that wasn't up for me. 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:01.960 M hum, reaching out to stuff that wasn't helping me 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:05.000 that I thought would help me instead of getting into detail. 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:08.560 A lot of stuff out there. You know, the Bible 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:14.080 talk about a yokes, you know, snares, you know, snares 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:17.400 out the forest and the foxing his business and bam, 1:05:17.600 --> 1:05:21.680 coax a snare elaborate on. You know, you got to 1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:24.040 I'm gonna keep that. Okay, I'm gonna keep it too 1:05:24.760 --> 1:05:29.560 to sufferer, you know, get taught what I got taught to. 1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:32.920 You know what I'm saying, that snare, I never you know, 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:35.520 that snare is like a little thing that's put out 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:38.360 in the forest. The fox is having a good time. Wham, 1:05:38.560 --> 1:05:41.800 ain't paying attention, he ain't going nowhere, you know, and 1:05:41.840 --> 1:05:44.640 that stuff put out for us. There's a lot of 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:51.760 snares somebody, somebody, somebody's listening to. You know, the whole 1:05:51.840 --> 1:05:57.600 nine yards ain't anyway. Somebody somebody's listening right now, going like, man, 1:05:57.840 --> 1:06:00.240 tell me deep. You know, anytime you say something, man, 1:06:01.720 --> 1:06:07.360 you know, very time you say something sorry, any time 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:12.720 you come on back your animal, any time you say 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:17.480 something where people can't understand it, they'd be like, man, 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:22.560 that's deep. Man, that's deep. You know. But but yeah, 1:06:22.560 --> 1:06:25.200 I get it. Caught up on what's there? I get it, 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:29.520 you know what I mean? And you know I'm in 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:32.200 that the only way to Canada. Yeah, I'm going to 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:36.360 l A. Okay, I'm going from Canada to l A. 1:06:37.640 --> 1:06:41.520 Coming down, and I'm like coming down, coming coming coming 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:45.200 off a bad off, a good experience, bad you know, 1:06:45.400 --> 1:06:49.560 coming down of me, coming off of me. Just trying 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:54.360 to to deal with the situation at the time. So 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:58.040 I'm in. I'm in the plane like it's another day. 1:06:58.160 --> 1:07:02.400 But so Man was in the playing and he told 1:07:02.440 --> 1:07:06.520 me come here. Man. I never met him. Man. I 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:08.600 sat down next to him. He told me everything about me. 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:12.160 He took five hours and talked to me like this, Yeah, 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:15.600 somebody daddy though you would expect that from the daddy head. 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:19.080 But he knew the numbers, he knew my stats, he 1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:22.480 knew you know. But he told me. The main thing 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:24.520 I can sum it up. He said, you got your 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:30.400 own audience. M hm, you're good. You know, whatever you're thinking, 1:07:31.240 --> 1:07:33.440 it ain't real. You got your own audience. You know 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:38.640 what moves them. So if you fashion your game for 1:07:38.960 --> 1:07:42.640 your audience, you can take it any direction you want 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:47.840 to go. You got very talents, take those talents and 1:07:48.000 --> 1:07:51.800 craft them into places where your audiences are, you know, 1:07:52.720 --> 1:07:54.680 and you can do that yourself with the help of 1:07:54.760 --> 1:07:57.280 your respensation, not not with them doing it for you, 1:07:57.360 --> 1:07:59.080 because you're the one who knows your talent, and you're 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:01.440 the one who knows you. And then he told me that, 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:08.000 he said, I did Street Bags, badass song, and I 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:12.040 was the first black dude to make a movie before 1:08:12.080 --> 1:08:15.360 the black explotation started. He said, that was a serious movie, 1:08:15.680 --> 1:08:17.639 you know what I mean. Then they started making Shaft 1:08:17.680 --> 1:08:19.280 and all this stuff aboutdrug dealers and all that, But 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:22.639 that was a serious movie, you know. But it started 1:08:22.680 --> 1:08:25.719 a movement. Brothers got paid. It was also another dimension 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:27.680 of our neighborhood where we did have that going on 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:29.600 or whatever. You know, you got a reflection of that 1:08:29.680 --> 1:08:34.000 happening now, right. But he told me, he said, so 1:08:34.120 --> 1:08:35.600 I got paid for this thing, man, And all of 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:37.640 a sudden, man I was famous, man, and and and 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:40.840 and I had money. You know. I got a big 1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:43.040 old new house. My family could do some things, you 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:45.160 know what I mean. And then somebody asked me on 1:08:45.240 --> 1:08:49.760 a TV Digest interview, how did you get to the top, 1:08:51.720 --> 1:08:55.559 And he told me, he said, y'all, motherfucker's wouldn't let 1:08:55.560 --> 1:09:00.400 me in at the bottom. Mm hmm. You said, your 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:02.760 top is your top. Your top is what you make it. 1:09:04.000 --> 1:09:09.240 That changed everything. That one conversation changed everything, Man, schooling 1:09:09.360 --> 1:09:21.000 right now, that one conversation changed everything. So how did 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:26.519 you how do you get that? How did how do 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:32.600 you get to that audition? Um? I had when I 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:35.040 got the l When I got to l A, I 1:09:35.240 --> 1:09:38.719 was the number one out of North Carolina, like number 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:41.760 twenty three. You know what I'm saying, like national champ 1:09:42.360 --> 1:09:44.160 just yeah, yeah, yeah, j B yeah, you know what 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:48.240 I'm saying. Right, So so so I am j So 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:53.400 I had all these deals on the table. Damn. I 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:55.400 had what I wanted. Man, you number okay, so you 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:58.560 number three? Job pick jo number three? Now join with 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:03.800 number three. You've was number one? Uh right right right? 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:09.800 But that's that's that's understandable. You know. Is that region 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:19.679 still still Georgia fans still? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. So So anyway, 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:22.920 I worked my ass off, me and st Clair Jones, 1:10:22.960 --> 1:10:24.479 and we found out what it was that made me 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:27.160 take I worked my butt off at comedy. I found 1:10:27.240 --> 1:10:29.760 my skills. I worked on it seven days a week. 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:32.040 I worked in a little Delhi, you know, I did 1:10:32.200 --> 1:10:34.400 what I needed to do. I got finally to the 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:39.120 main room the comedy room, main room. You get you know, 1:10:39.439 --> 1:10:42.720 three years, ain't let me in comedy store. Comedy story 1:10:42.720 --> 1:10:48.200 and let me in the comedy store. That's key because 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:51.120 I finally got called by them. Yeah, on on a 1:10:51.240 --> 1:10:53.400 on the weekend. They said, you got that. You're you're 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:56.880 You're in the main room and on this weekend. So 1:10:57.040 --> 1:11:02.719 really he said, yeah, you Richard Pryor Eatie. He said, okay. 1:11:03.000 --> 1:11:04.920 So I was like, all right, well then do you 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:06.400 want me to see the intros when you want me 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:07.840 to be there? And said, no, you're on the show. 1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:10.240 It's like, I'm on the show. How long they want 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:11.720 me to do? He said, you're doing a half an hour, 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:16.360 You're doing a half hour, Eddie's doing a half hour, 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:18.920 and Prior is doing a half I said, okay, well 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:20.720 what time I gotta be there, you know, to do 1:11:20.880 --> 1:11:23.800 intros for it? He said, no, Eddie comes on first. 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:27.800 Hell no, you come on second for first and second 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:30.479 show Friday night, first Shore Friday Night. Eddie comes on first, 1:11:31.320 --> 1:11:33.760 you come on second, Prior goes on last. Second show, 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:37.320 Prior goes on first, You come on second, Eddie goes 1:11:37.360 --> 1:11:41.599 on last, and the same thing Saturday Night. It was like, seriously, 1:11:41.640 --> 1:11:45.200 they were like, yeah. I was like, let's go, let's go. 1:11:45.680 --> 1:11:49.639 I was. I was like, are you closed behind Prior 1:11:49.680 --> 1:11:53.920 and the first first the first night. Yeah, so she 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:56.000 was in the middle of both both nights. Yeah, man, 1:11:56.479 --> 1:12:02.760 was coming behind Prior. Let's go. Oh, let's go. You 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:04.880 had to write some new stuff, if you when it's 1:12:04.920 --> 1:12:08.000 in me by that time, I'm like, I've lost my 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:11.479 apartment and you know, in d C, I was my cars. 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:13.600 I had to drive a button, take the bus for 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:16.200 the first time, and like since I was like I 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:20.760 don't know when, like, hey, I was admitted rice and 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:25.120 and and and pizza on a good day after have 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:26.519 him out, you know what I'm saying, working in the 1:12:26.600 --> 1:12:30.639 game whatever. So I'm like, all right, all right, cool, 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:39.920 you know, I'm like, uh, Jordan's net Championship game that 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:46.120 that series with Boston when he has six year Okay, 1:12:46.920 --> 1:12:51.519 oh man, huh huh right, So it's over everybody there, 1:12:51.600 --> 1:12:54.840 Stevie wonder you know, because I'm in there now. I 1:12:54.880 --> 1:13:00.840 went from burn Steve. Everybody was there. Man, it's Eddie 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:04.320 and it's Eddie and Prior. So it's a Saturday night 1:13:04.680 --> 1:13:08.840 at the college when the comics at the comedy store 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:11.320 didn't have TV shows yet. Sign Feil's in the main room. 1:13:11.800 --> 1:13:16.000 Rose Hand's in the main room, Jim Adam Sanders in 1:13:16.040 --> 1:13:21.720 the main Uh uh, Michael Keaton's in the main room. 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:26.320 What's his name? Life like a box of chocolates. Um 1:13:27.680 --> 1:13:29.599 Hanks is in the main room. They all stand up 1:13:30.080 --> 1:13:32.920 movies in the main room. Wait wait, wait wait, So 1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:36.080 Tom Hanks was a stand up comedian before he became 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:39.599 in the main room. So I'm in the main room 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:44.600 from from Whoopy Go very funny on stage as a 1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:49.880 stand up. Really, she's a killer, she's the real. Yeah. 1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:51.519 And the thing about it was, I got to watch 1:13:51.600 --> 1:13:53.519 all of them. See I came out there from d C. 1:13:53.680 --> 1:13:55.920 And since I pay my dudes in our little rooms, 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:59.400 we run to the main room. Just okay. And the 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:02.000 next day about it, you know, how do you like 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:05.280 how he did that? He was like my, my, my 1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:09.640 sense a man. So by the time I got that 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:11.960 main room shot, I was like, all right, let's go, 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:18.320 let's go. I gotta standing ovation. Every night we're in 1:14:18.360 --> 1:14:22.080 the little closet. We and we in the green room, 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:24.800 ring room, green room, got the bitches and the food 1:14:24.960 --> 1:14:28.040 and you know, yeah, yeah, they got prior to he 1:14:28.120 --> 1:14:30.280 got that Joan and they the hottest. So we're a 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:33.519 little closet right, never forget this. So I'm sitting there 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:35.320 with my boy. You know. We then came out there, 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:39.120 he wrote my Lissa his Nissan Sentra, you know, my 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:41.000 big gass TV. We drove out the l a not 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:44.200 knowing nobody. So here we are a little, a little cubicle. 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:48.200 I'm just sitting there. We're talking, not to disturb, no 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:51.840 camera angles. So I'm sitting there and Prior walks up 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:57.320 to me. He looks me up and down and We're like, 1:14:58.280 --> 1:15:01.800 you know, and he shook his head. He looked at me, 1:15:01.880 --> 1:15:08.360 he said, use a funny motherfucker, man, and just walked away. Yeah. 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:11.240 And me and my boy was like, oh, I called 1:15:11.280 --> 1:15:14.439 my mother. I said, Mom, Mom, no proceed. You know, 1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:16.160 I'm a funny motherfucking And she was like, I told 1:15:16.200 --> 1:15:18.360 you not to leave. I told you not to leave. 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:20.080 She wouldn't let me leave. I want to go. I 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:22.880 want to go home because it was just tough, you know. 1:15:23.400 --> 1:15:26.360 So from there I got all these big deals with Disney. 1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.639 I was I had a part on Murphy Brown without 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:33.840 even auditioning. Okay, um um, I had all these opportunities. 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:35.880 I had a pilot with Eddie Murphy's company to do 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:37.960 coming to America as his Little Brother of his TV 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:41.959 series on CBS just came out. People put it on YouTube. 1:15:42.400 --> 1:15:44.439 You know. It was a tough experience, but none of 1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:49.680 it happened. None of it happened, none of it. So 1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:52.680 we went back to the clubs, you know. And so 1:15:53.000 --> 1:15:55.200 I get a call from my agent. Agent said, Keenan 1:15:56.360 --> 1:15:59.599 got a show called it a Living Color was Liken 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:02.160 right now. We're just back in the clubs doing this 1:16:02.200 --> 1:16:04.640 And my agent told me, what's your audition? You get it? 1:16:04.720 --> 1:16:05.960 You get it? You don't, you don't. I was like 1:16:06.080 --> 1:16:09.559 a he said, just go. So when Keen is there 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:11.240 with all the people, you know, and they're watching me, 1:16:11.280 --> 1:16:12.840 and they asked me to do improv. So I don't 1:16:12.840 --> 1:16:14.719 know how to do improv, but I knew all my life. 1:16:15.640 --> 1:16:17.519 So they said, man, hey, have a good one. You 1:16:17.560 --> 1:16:22.120 know what. I'm like, hey, because I don't not got 1:16:22.120 --> 1:16:25.160 auditions before the Different world. It was me Alfonds were 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:28.800 berrow and and Kadeem Hardison who got it? You know 1:16:28.840 --> 1:16:32.800 what I mean? Kadeem got it? You know, It's like yeah, 1:16:32.880 --> 1:16:36.880 Codem from a different character. Right. It came down to 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:40.160 me and cadem I didn't get it. So I figured, 1:16:40.240 --> 1:16:41.719 this is another one I didn't get. But I must 1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:46.320 keep working, you know, keep working. And and then we 1:16:46.360 --> 1:16:48.880 got a call from a Living Color. They said there's this. 1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:52.280 I'll say. My agent said, how do you do? I said, 1:16:52.280 --> 1:16:55.360 I don't think I did too well. Man, He said, well, 1:16:55.400 --> 1:16:58.960 don't worry. This is there's a stand up audition at 1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:03.439 the laugh Factor tomorrow night. Is it? Really? Said? Yeah? 1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:07.200 He told me to line up. It was thirty of 1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:12.000 the comics that everybody. No, guess who's number thirty? Yeah, 1:17:15.840 --> 1:17:18.840 give me the ball. I don't know about no, Tom Brady, 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:26.240 Yes I do. Uh. Jordan's uh chef chef chef uh 1:17:27.439 --> 1:17:33.800 uh Yankee grets the great You know what I'm saying? Yeah, 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:42.960 Ray Robinson, Okay, now I know about that, right, I'm thinking, Hey, 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:47.120 but I know what I know about this. And I'm 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:52.680 thirtieth and I'm thirty and I'm regardless of I get 1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:56.960 this show. Somebody getting hurt tonight. What's the whole crowd 1:17:57.040 --> 1:18:00.840 still there? Did the crowd stayed at the time? Yeah, 1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:04.640 it was everybody, Martin Man, Yeah, is everybody you know, 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:09.919 and you went on and this was not an audition. 1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:13.760 This was an audition. I thought I blew the sketch thing. 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:16.960 He said, well, there's another audition. They're doing two auditions. Okay, 1:18:17.960 --> 1:18:20.320 they're doing two auditions doing sketch. What andy doing it? 1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:22.840 So I grow up? And that's by stopping thirties? Are 1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:25.720 you kidding me? Me? And and he always used to 1:18:25.760 --> 1:18:28.439 train me like a boxer. So I'm on the sidewalk 1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:31.760 everybody else inside She's like, let's do it again. Do 1:18:31.800 --> 1:18:33.280 it again, man, do it again. Take me through it, 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:35.320 Take me through me. Take me through a john, take 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:37.080 me through it. Magame on, take me through it again. Man, 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:39.639 we want sade w boom boom boom boom boom boom 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:41.360 boo boo boom boo boo boo boom. Take me through 1:18:41.360 --> 1:18:44.120 it again, man, take me through it again. And every time, 1:18:44.760 --> 1:18:47.120 you know, once in a while a friend of mine 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:48.560 to come outside and say, hey, man, you can't do 1:18:48.680 --> 1:18:50.960 that thing that you do. Man, because which mccon did it? 1:18:51.600 --> 1:18:54.320 You know? Yeah, So I'd be like, all right, man, 1:18:54.360 --> 1:18:55.599 all right, you know he's that man. I don't pay 1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:57.360 no attention. Then, man, come on, man, run the ship. 1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:00.400 Running ship time. You know it might come out and 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:02.439 you can't do the thing thing thing because somebody else 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:05.400 did that. Man, all right, man, don't worry about that. Man. 1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:09.439 Come on, let's run it time. Man. They said my name. Man, 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:13.720 I don't remember it. I really don't remember the set. 1:19:14.640 --> 1:19:17.400 I don't. But all I do is I remember this. 1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:23.599 I knew what I couldn't do, right, but the comedy 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:27.960 got in the sky. Robin Givings was real hot at 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:32.120 the time, her and Mike Tyson, right, and RoboCop was 1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:34.960 like the number one movie, right. So I did this 1:19:35.120 --> 1:19:42.439 thing with Robin Gibbons as robo Cop with Tyson and 1:19:42.720 --> 1:19:47.760 murdered it. It just came to me standing ovation keen 1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:49.360 to lead up, leaned up. He came out to do it. 1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:51.320 He said, Man, I ain't telling nobody, but it's what 1:19:51.400 --> 1:19:56.800 you got it, God damn got it. And they were 1:19:56.840 --> 1:20:02.760 all these comics were auditioning for. Yeah, yeah, only the 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:09.639 best of the best. Guy on there. Yeah, the uh 1:20:09.760 --> 1:20:12.360 it was l It was everybody that goes to Burland, 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:15.800 Jim Jim, Jim Carrey. He wasn't here. I'm talking about 1:20:15.800 --> 1:20:18.599 the ones who did not I know who. Jamie wasn't 1:20:18.600 --> 1:20:22.080 in but he but he would we know that did 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:26.640 not make it? That was that John Lego Zamos almost good. U. 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:32.960 I didn't think Robin Harris. Robin Harris is good. Uh, 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:37.559 you know T Kane and you know what Stay um 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:44.599 k is good. David Allen Grier. No, I'm saying David, 1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:46.800 they made the show. I'm saying who who did not? 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:49.639 Trying to see but who did not make the show 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:55.840 that we know. I'm gonna see everybody. Lego Zamo, I'm 1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:59.240 gonna say everybody. Man did you know? Because I can't 1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:02.840 really because I was so I was so in it, 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:04.680 you know what I mean. But I know that it 1:21:04.840 --> 1:21:07.439 was when when we started the cast, it was like 1:21:07.479 --> 1:21:10.720 twelve people. Then they took a damn from twelve to 1:21:10.920 --> 1:21:13.920 just us. See, I'm more interested in knowing who those 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:17.640 people were, just you know, for the sake of the 1:21:17.760 --> 1:21:20.560 people on the our side. Like no, I know, I 1:21:21.479 --> 1:21:24.600 wish I could remember they went through all of that 1:21:24.720 --> 1:21:28.519 in spite of these people still perfectly Yeah and look 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:30.960 at them now, I like your angle, Yeah yeah, because 1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:33.280 it ain't over till us all. But never so the 1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:36.360 people that are on there, Jamie wasn't even in town 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:40.240 yet nobody heard of what Jamie foxx Well said entertainer 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:44.560 or even a Bernie mac but never played on in 1:21:44.680 --> 1:21:48.040 Living Color later or whatever. No, no, no, no, no, 1:21:48.280 --> 1:21:50.920 Jamie was in Hollywood around that time because they was 1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:56.240 playing Birdland. Well he wasn't, because we're talking, you're talking 1:21:58.880 --> 1:22:01.920 it built up from built up from AD seven, so 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:08.479 A seven built up from them comics. Jamie got there 1:22:08.520 --> 1:22:12.479 probably about the ninety one ninety one at the at 1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:16.560 the most, but he wasn't a party of like the 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:21.640 all pro squads. Yeah, you see by that time, you know, 1:22:22.360 --> 1:22:26.160 we've been playing, playing, playing playing. But he was good. 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:30.559 He was good. He was real good. I remember Jamimes. 1:22:30.800 --> 1:22:34.160 I remember one of his first, very first jokes. He's 1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:37.720 talking about his grandmother being afraid of AIDS. Like he 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:40.240 was like talking about his grandmother like being like really 1:22:40.320 --> 1:22:43.120 really afraid of anybody with AIDS. And he was talking 1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:46.160 about the time that he was in the bathroom, uh, 1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:50.360 playing with himself and and uh and his his his 1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:57.280 his grandmother knocked on the door. Jamie, I hope you're 1:22:57.280 --> 1:23:00.559 in and that hope hen that playing what your self? 1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:04.640 You know it that's how you get them AIDS. But 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:10.880 he just kept going away. It was dudes on a 1:23:10.960 --> 1:23:14.000 totally different level even way back. And the crazy thing 1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:16.960 about all these cats that were playing that burn Land 1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:20.920 you're watching, you was in it. You're watching Magic Man. 1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:24.479 You're looking at these guys, and you said, you see 1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:29.879 every single one of these guys on in an arena 1:23:29.960 --> 1:23:35.800 by themselves, Like this guy could play that arena by himself. Yeah. Yeah, 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:38.040 but that's I mean, it's the same with y'all. You know, 1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:42.400 we just came in a really good time. Yeah, you know, 1:23:42.479 --> 1:23:44.320 we came in a really good time. We came during 1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:47.760 we were, we were, we're we're the new Black Renaissance. 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:54.120 Anybody anywhere from eight six to nine and from ninety two, 1:23:54.720 --> 1:23:59.479 two thousand three or four, that's the renaissance. That that's 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:06.879 the the renaissances. It's a French word for um new beginning, 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:09.360 you know what I mean. And that that renaissance for them, 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:15.639 they called it the renaissance. Because the Black More's were 1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:20.320 in Ata Louisa. They got thrown out after being there 1:24:20.360 --> 1:24:26.519 for seven honey years, bringing them grapes, tomatoes, lemons, animal stalls, 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:32.720 most importantly algebra, algebra. They you know, they also brought 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:39.880 them um um gunpowder stuff to change Europe. But mainly 1:24:40.000 --> 1:24:44.439 it was the library in Cordoba, which was the library 1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:47.720 that had all these Arabic texts from Africa thousands and 1:24:47.760 --> 1:24:53.200 thousands of years old. So the French took those Arabic 1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:58.960 texts and translated them into French so that all that 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:01.800 knowledge was now available to Europe because they were in 1:25:01.840 --> 1:25:08.520 the dark ages, you see. So they called that their renaissance, 1:25:09.240 --> 1:25:11.360 you see. And then the first then that when the 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:15.880 English finally by the English time, the English, uh turned 1:25:15.920 --> 1:25:21.080 that stuff into English. They had a renaissance. They they 1:25:21.200 --> 1:25:27.240 started the first university in Europe, Oxford. So there their 1:25:27.320 --> 1:25:30.920 renaissance ain't nothing, but uh so i'm old for us, 1:25:31.840 --> 1:25:35.920 with with with with that. Our renaissance wasn't old something 1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:38.120 but old for us. But it was brand new for 1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:46.240 us because the seventies from sixty nine, yeah, you know, 1:25:46.320 --> 1:25:49.320 it's about seventy nine when Good Times came out. That 1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:51.560 was a renaissance, and soul renaissance what he took and 1:25:51.680 --> 1:25:55.040 renamed our music. It was called soul music. And Smody 1:25:55.080 --> 1:25:56.479 coming with R and B. R and B was the 1:25:56.560 --> 1:25:59.640 oldest ready and all them, you know, so old man, 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:04.640 that was that the soul is is man drill sholights, 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:09.160 brightest side of darkness, art building drills cameo earth when 1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:15.559 you fry uh parliament, Uh sun brass, construction, mass production. 1:26:16.120 --> 1:26:20.479 That that's soul. Somebody said his R and B took 1:26:20.560 --> 1:26:22.479 that soul off of because it was called soul. Because 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:26.639 what so soul? Marvin Gate, what's going on? You get 1:26:26.640 --> 1:26:29.960 albums that Gil Scott hearing, You get albums that you 1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:33.960 get to grow from. You see that renaissance coming off 1:26:33.960 --> 1:26:37.680 another renaissance, but coming out of that seventy nine, what 1:26:37.800 --> 1:26:40.960 about eighty crack or whatever? You know, gotta be a 1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:46.040 new beginning somewhere. You see about eighty six eight six 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:49.880 seventy nine started the hip hop thing, not the whole one, 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:52.280 because it started in seventy seven. In my eyes, because 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:55.120 I was in New York m hm, seventy six. The 1:26:55.160 --> 1:26:57.000 first time I heard rap myself and I'm from d C. 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:00.400 What's the first song? You heard? The first? Wraps on 1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:05.000 her on Wax the first song period I heard him 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:09.400 on cassettes. I don't know. It was some brothers from 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:12.160 around the block. They just was was mixing tapes and rapping. 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:18.879 The first one I heard on wax was spoony mm students, 1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:27.760 students speeding down the street when they pushed my brakes, 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:30.200 when it seemed to find girl maybe ship or artis 1:27:33.680 --> 1:27:35.280 from the south, from the north, from the east to 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:37.479 the west. Come on, did you got to go out? 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:40.600 And yes, yes, y'all, that's the first I heard or 1:27:41.040 --> 1:27:43.479 or um um do lu doo do do do lu 1:27:43.560 --> 1:27:45.639 doo do do do lu doo do do do. That's 1:27:45.680 --> 1:27:49.320 the joint. I was HEARDing it from uptown and I 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:52.000 was before a sugar Hill gang. The stuff I heard 1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:59.040 on wax was the funky for treacherous melle melingmousah turcher 1:27:59.160 --> 1:28:02.439 four plus one more plus one more rock hit the top, 1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:06.479 don't hit the top and k K and out here 1:28:06.560 --> 1:28:08.840 you ain't c k K. We're gonna we've been breaking 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:10.680 to the break to day. We're gonna go all the 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:13.479 way k K checking out, y'all. You don't you know 1:28:14.000 --> 1:28:16.960 I was hearing that. See that was that was me 1:28:17.080 --> 1:28:22.160 in d C. They dined years before the is before 1:28:22.200 --> 1:28:28.639 the butt. Yeah. You mentioned Richard and and Eddie at 1:28:28.680 --> 1:28:33.840 the comedy store. Right, and these are two guys to 1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:39.120 comment giants that are on my mount us more right, 1:28:40.439 --> 1:28:50.720 who's on your mount Rushmore for comedy them too? Um, Dave, 1:28:50.760 --> 1:29:00.679 it's pretty funny, yeah, Dave said, he that's what you said, Rushmore. Yeah, 1:29:01.439 --> 1:29:05.280 I says, right, Well, my my Brushmore would consist of 1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:08.599 people that ain't my contemporary. You see. So I would 1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:10.560 I would put, I would put, I would put, I 1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:15.880 would put prior numero Oh no, I put, I put Uh. 1:29:16.800 --> 1:29:22.000 Eddie he died for a second with Red Red Fox 1:29:22.120 --> 1:29:24.599 was it was from a whole another Rid was doing 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:30.519 comedy fifty six years. Yeah, the albums and all that. Man, Yeah, 1:29:31.280 --> 1:29:36.040 these albums he clips prior you know, prior albums came 1:29:36.040 --> 1:29:38.320 out of the seventies. Man, Red was back in the fifties. Man, 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:41.360 we're gonna train. Have you ever worked with Eddie Murphy 1:29:41.400 --> 1:29:46.200 in the movie in movies? Nope, let's run off this 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:50.920 this Nope, And I wonder about that. It's round. I'm 1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:55.000 gum coop. So we got Eddie, we got Richard, we 1:29:55.120 --> 1:30:04.240 got we got Red Fox. I put Red Um, I 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:08.800 put Dick just on the strength of what he brought 1:30:08.840 --> 1:30:12.120 the comedy. Okay, what he brought the comedy he brought, 1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:15.880 he brought, he brought consciousness. How are we gonna do 1:30:15.960 --> 1:30:26.639 without that, you see, Um, I'll put Robbing on that beach. Harris. Yeah, 1:30:27.439 --> 1:30:33.680 so you got five reconstructing Mount Rushmore, just on the 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:37.719 strength that you know, he's off the head, he's he's 1:30:37.760 --> 1:30:41.120 he's a kid like you like he like um, like 1:30:41.200 --> 1:30:43.920 Reddy moss Man, like you know, you can't do nothing 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:47.280 with him. You understand. The game is so good. You 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:49.360 can tell him that he run his own bass patterns 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:53.240 like you know, he just got that easily, got that thing. 1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:55.760 You can't really you can't. You can't teach that. You know. 1:30:56.520 --> 1:31:01.479 That's my Rushmore. I got several. But you know there's 1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:07.920 a white Rushmore too, Robin Williams. Uh, George Carlin, a 1:31:08.040 --> 1:31:12.759 guy named um uh no, no, he crushed water Millen. 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:19.040 I'm talking. I'm talking about uh Charlie Fleischer. The voice said, 1:31:19.080 --> 1:31:23.680 Roger Rabbit. Yeah, stand up, I understand, stand up. You know, 1:31:23.760 --> 1:31:27.479 I understand the craft. You know, I understand the craft 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:30.360 of standout is good. Yeah, it's it's what he can 1:31:30.439 --> 1:31:33.200 bring to were only on an hour, half an hour? 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:35.120 What you can bring to an hour? Where can you 1:31:35.200 --> 1:31:38.800 bring to the table George brought you know? Yeah, he 1:31:38.960 --> 1:31:42.920 had that that that knowledge what's that boy, they said, 1:31:43.000 --> 1:31:48.120 He said, uh, he said, they check your pist. He said, 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:53.360 seven eleven, opened twenty four hours a day, has a 1:31:53.760 --> 1:32:00.439 lock on the door. Having eleven is open twenty hours 1:32:00.439 --> 1:32:05.120 a day and it has a lock on the door. Yeah, right, right, right, 1:32:05.280 --> 1:32:08.519 right right? Is that that's sublime? But since I'm a 1:32:08.560 --> 1:32:11.519 student of the whole thing, so I got several rush 1:32:12.080 --> 1:32:14.800 rush mors. You know, I'm like, I'm like Bruce Lee, 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:18.040 you know, don't turn into Bruce Lee on the show 1:32:18.160 --> 1:32:24.439 Man Easy, cowboys, don't don't. Earlier, I said, I don't 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:27.800 want to affect any camera angle. Yeah, you know what 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:34.519 cameras six cameras. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, y'all can cover me. Okay, 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:37.400 y'all can cover me. Y'all got y'all gouts covered. No. 1:32:37.560 --> 1:32:41.760 But but but the genius thing about him was, you know, 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:47.840 is that he studied each form of it. He studied 1:32:47.880 --> 1:32:50.920 each form of it, He studied each form of martial arts. 1:32:51.120 --> 1:32:54.760 Boxing is boxing is a martial art. Boxing is an art, 1:32:56.120 --> 1:32:58.240 you know, it's art with gloves in a ring and 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:03.160 rules and a ref and this technique. But judo akido 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:09.680 is about weight moving weight around. Karate uh, kimpo, and 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:12.120 all of those are like empty hand. They're called empty hand. 1:33:12.400 --> 1:33:14.720 That's being able to defend yourself with nothing in your hand, 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:17.599 no weapon, you see what I'm saying. And then you've 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:20.400 got the other more extravagant forms like kung fu. Kung 1:33:20.439 --> 1:33:24.160 foo is called time. Come fuo is called time. That's 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:28.679 the name of it. So they watched animals and nature 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:31.960 so long that they were able to take all the 1:33:32.040 --> 1:33:35.120 traits that they saw and put him into a defensive form. 1:33:35.560 --> 1:33:37.960 He took all those put them all in one form. 1:33:40.000 --> 1:33:41.439 He took the best of all of them and put 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:44.720 it into one. So I was wondering, can I do 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:47.400 that with comedy, you know? And so that's what I've done. 1:33:47.880 --> 1:33:49.720 If you see my show, you don't know if you 1:33:49.800 --> 1:33:51.559 don't know if this is the beginning or the end. 1:33:53.120 --> 1:33:55.360 You don't know if I'm making this up or it's real, 1:33:57.200 --> 1:34:01.360 because it is, it's all one. What is speaking of? 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:06.280 What's what's imaginary and real? What? What? What do you 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:11.920 believe is the greatest misconception about Tommy Davison? M hmm, 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:19.400 I don't know. Um, I guess I would say that 1:34:19.479 --> 1:34:21.680 people don't know how really skilled I am as a 1:34:21.880 --> 1:34:26.599 comic as as a stand up comedian. They don't really 1:34:26.760 --> 1:34:29.439 really realize how skilled I am. I think that's the 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:36.080 average person though. But people that no comed understand skill. No, 1:34:36.240 --> 1:34:38.880 I don't think that. People in the business, no that. 1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:42.120 I don't think that other comics know that. You know, 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:47.160 because there's different brand's, different brands different But I disagree. 1:34:47.200 --> 1:34:55.760 But okay, dirt dirt dude, you can do your joint 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:59.800 from me on that. Do do do? Do? What is 1:35:00.040 --> 1:35:04.320 a lot of little fluke? What the hill is at? What? 1:35:06.000 --> 1:35:08.240 I never knew? I knew that was slick, though I 1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:10.400 knew that. I knew that was slick. Though I knew 1:35:10.400 --> 1:35:14.439 it was slick, I knew it was slick. Tell me, man, 1:35:14.560 --> 1:35:17.720 how do you I heard it before? Now, not heard 1:35:17.760 --> 1:35:20.360 that exact riff, But you hear the songs, you know 1:35:27.200 --> 1:35:29.200 the bas break something. You know you heard it, but 1:35:29.479 --> 1:35:31.680 y'all took some over the only reason why I can 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:34.000 identify what the ship that you're doing is because I'm 1:35:34.040 --> 1:35:36.200 a musician. So I hear this ship, but don't don't. 1:35:37.080 --> 1:35:39.439 Did you do that in class like a school? Did 1:35:39.479 --> 1:35:43.760 you do that in the in the first grade? Did 1:35:43.800 --> 1:35:47.559 you get sent to the principal's office. For I could 1:35:47.600 --> 1:35:49.840 see it when Howard said that to me, I'm telling you, 1:35:49.880 --> 1:35:51.880 I got lucky. Did you do it like after you 1:35:51.920 --> 1:35:53.800 finish your work, because you're a smart guy, you know, 1:35:53.960 --> 1:35:55.599 so you did it after you got your work done. 1:35:55.600 --> 1:35:57.200 And then you were trying to say he didn't say anything. 1:35:57.200 --> 1:35:59.479 You see that, you see this, you see I know 1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:04.240 for I did it. Yeah, we wanted the same what 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:08.880 I'm saying. What I'm saying because you're a comic, I'm 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:12.080 a musician. But that's a whole another, that's the whole, 1:36:12.080 --> 1:36:15.080 another gig. And Willie is a fighter. I know that. 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:19.120 I'm a comic, musician and a fighter. He's not funny, 1:36:20.439 --> 1:36:24.160 he's not funny, but you're funny. I'm not funny, Willie, 1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:26.719 And you're not funny. But you don't understand you're funny. 1:36:26.920 --> 1:36:31.600 I'm not funny. I'm not funny. Funny. That's not funny. No, 1:36:31.680 --> 1:36:33.719 but he's not saying that. He's in that Robert the Neork. 1:36:34.720 --> 1:36:42.320 I'm funny, funny, funny Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole another, Yeah, 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.200 you're on the whole another thing here. Yeah, man, we 1:36:45.240 --> 1:36:47.519 appreciate you coming out for having man, you know, I've 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:49.160 been always wanted to see that and talk to y'all. 1:36:49.520 --> 1:36:53.400 Why because I saw what y'all did. Do you know that? 1:36:53.400 --> 1:36:55.680 I mean, Willie have we have never been able to 1:36:55.720 --> 1:36:59.800 get along like this is the most you know how 1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:02.280 when you get you know, y'all got on from one recording, 1:37:02.800 --> 1:37:04.280 but you know how when they recorded y'all in a 1:37:04.360 --> 1:37:06.439 different place. But look, man, it's it's it's you know 1:37:06.520 --> 1:37:09.519 how things can be water. You can have water under 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:13.320 the bridge. Did he do it? Sision last though I 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:16.160 don't remember. You can have water under the bridge, and 1:37:16.280 --> 1:37:20.040 then you have people like him that will fucking try 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:23.160 to come with a jackhammer and destroy the bridge. You know, No, 1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:25.600 look at this water. It was right here. Look we 1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:28.080 still got problems. What we're gonna do about this water? 1:37:28.320 --> 1:37:30.840 Right right? This? Dude? Man, I mean, I tell you, 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:32.760 But that's why I don't even say ship bro Hey, 1:37:32.880 --> 1:37:34.600 let us pray. I've been waiting for this. Let us 1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:38.920 because I saw it happen. You saw me and Willie 1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:41.240 Dee happening. I saw y'all group happened. I saw your 1:37:41.280 --> 1:37:45.080 song happening. But I ain't see y'all coming really, But 1:37:45.280 --> 1:37:47.559 when I heard the song, I had never heard nothing 1:37:47.680 --> 1:37:53.040 like that. Nobody has. Everybody got a song. Everybody has 1:37:53.120 --> 1:37:55.519 a song that defines them. That's not your only song. 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:58.599 Y'all got songs that are nice. Y'all got catalogs and stuff. 1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:02.080 But the one that his names with everybody, he's the 1:38:02.160 --> 1:38:04.760 one is that one after it comes. He never heard 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:10.360 Willie's first song. When I left my neighborhood to make 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:13.439 this big break, I promised my road dogs that I 1:38:13.560 --> 1:38:16.800 dedicate a super jam to the hood that is sharp 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:19.760 as a sickle. So here it is fifth Ward, better 1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:23.320 known as than Nickel. Everybody know my neighborhood. They say 1:38:23.360 --> 1:38:26.160 it's no good, but they don't talk that ship my 1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:29.240 Nickel the woods. And then he was like naming some 1:38:29.439 --> 1:38:37.080 names and ship Thomas, who is it? Jordan's Your ladies 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:40.720 and gentlemen. Uh, that's a rap. Thank you for joining us. 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:46.160 Uh absolutely, Tommy Davis, it's got so much man. You 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:51.679 know your library. The club I was telling you about, 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:55.200 get me get one more second. The club we were 1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:57.880 talking about is the club he was mad him at 1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:05.519 that club of that comedy club that was here, just joking, Hey, 1:39:05.560 --> 1:39:08.240 do you think that's where we met? You want you 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:11.519 want to do a man any time, get on the mic. 1:39:12.160 --> 1:39:13.680 I don't want to get on the mic where we 1:39:13.920 --> 1:39:15.880 were still we're not, we're not. We haven't closed the 1:39:15.920 --> 1:39:18.000 show out yet. Man, you got a closer shot. Say 1:39:18.080 --> 1:39:28.080 something in the show, say something, Man. Okay, bye. 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