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Speaker 1: Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. It is a

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Speaker 1: beautiful It is Friday afternoon here at St. Vincent College,

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Speaker 1: although today no practice going on in front of us

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Speaker 1: as the Steelers well there Friday night lights practice and

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Speaker 1: U Matt, I thought this would be a good time,

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Speaker 1: since we don't have anything going on here in front

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Speaker 1: of us, to take a look at these position groups,

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Speaker 1: the team by position groups here trending up and trending

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Speaker 1: down after what we've seen weekend to practice. And I

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Speaker 1: So we're watching, you know, the smaller people a lot

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Speaker 1: again only three padded practices, but we've seen him out

424
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: here now for for eight practices. And we're going uh

425
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,719
Speaker 1: through this roster and and saying, you know, just trending upwards,

426
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: trending downwards, or holding steady in the wide receiver position.

427
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: It's probably the most topical and fun conversation will have

428
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: any of these position groups. So Deonte is a constant

429
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: and yesterday jumping right on on a moving ship as

430
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: I say, you know is you know, he's been talked

431
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: to death. Should they pay him? Oh, they're getting the contract,

432
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: is a good contract, all that stuff. But when he

433
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: got back there against his peers, I was like, oh,

434
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: he's the best guy. Pretty obvious when he gave that

435
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: guy some money. Yeah, he's quicker, he's a better route

436
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: runner than everybody out there. He's just a more refined player.

437
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a number one receiver. And he

438
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: looked like it, you know, coming off there, a little wealthier,

439
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: and so that's what you want to see. How about this?

440
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: So I saw some of the particulars on his contract today.

441
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: So his cap pits over the next three seasons. Seven

442
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: point six million this year, great because they can stomach

443
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: that easily. Yeah, thirteen point eight million next year. That's minimal.

444
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 1: Eighteen point four nine seven four. That all seems below

445
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: market value. I mean that is tremendous. I mean people

446
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: look at the well, he got two years, you know,

447
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half million dollars per year um. But

448
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: how does it affect the cap? Yeah, and he got

449
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: new money this year, He got like ninth They just

450
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: wrote him and basically a check for nineteen million dollars,

451
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: which is what makes him Well, that's the beauty of it,

452
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: right from from his side of it, is I get

453
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: a huge check in the in the bank that's going

454
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: to make more money, and I you know, I mean

455
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm set. Yeah, um for a guy who had made

456
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: three million dollars to this point in his career, of

457
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: which he probably saw about a you know, one point

458
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: five paying for his you know, his agents cut and

459
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: you know all the other stuff that he doesn't have

460
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: a million. He didn't have a million dollars in the

461
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: bank probably before all this happened. Now, how he does

462
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: there a check for seventeen or whatever? And then he said, right, okay, yeah,

463
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: and again that's a very team and cap friendly deal. Absolutely,

464
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, they could actually with those

465
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: numbers if they wanted to, could pay uh, Chase Claypool

466
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: if they wanted. Oh, I was thinking the same thing.

467
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: Or even if Claypool or Pickings ends up being the

468
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: better player than Johnson, he's still not get rid of him.

469
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: He's you gotta pay you know, he might if he's

470
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: producing like a strong number two, that's still decent money

471
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: in the contract for him. So I like that contract

472
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: more and more, and the player looked tremendous when he

473
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: was back doing everything with the team. Absolutely, Um, just

474
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: really uh good work by him. And somebody came at me,

475
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: but you said he would, you know he would. He

476
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: shouldn't take a Hunter renfro deal. Well that's not a

477
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: hunt of Renfro deal, as I haven't studied Renfrozdal his

478
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: deals four million dollars a year more or four million

479
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: dollars total new money than Renfrost side of two year

480
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: thirty two million dollar contract. This is a two year,

481
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: thirty six and a half or thirty six point seven

482
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. Not apples apples right right, it's a

483
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: it's a better deal. Um. Anyway, So Claypool has been

484
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: We can't can't have a great on him at this

485
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: point because he has not at all. But if all

486
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: the guys have been sitting out, he's the one needs

487
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: to get back. Yeah, I mean if he's running a

488
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: lot of if what we suspect that he's gonna run

489
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff from the slot, he needs to

490
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: get back on the field. Yeah. Now he has been,

491
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit. You know, it's a shoulder injury,

492
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: so you see him out there working on his footwork.

493
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's doing that stuff. He's yeah, he's been working. Um.

494
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: They're just taking it easy with that shoulder, because well

495
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: you can, you can afford to do that at this

496
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: point with five more weeks before they play an actual game.

497
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: And he's a great spirits. He's cheering up his teammates

498
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean he shows up here in

499
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: a big way. The rest of it, uh is is

500
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: an interesting group as well. Uh you got Miles Boyk

501
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: and you've got Cody White, you got Javon McKinley. Who

502
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: they they brought in. Uh, You've got Gunnerolschewsky, Anthony Miller,

503
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: Tyler Vaughan's you got uh George George Pickens, Calvin Austin,

504
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: Steven Simms, Tyler sneet. They got a bunch of re

505
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: receivers here and at one point or another they've all

506
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: done something good pretty much A yeah, yeah, yeah, And

507
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: this environment has been good for them to showcase their skills.

508
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: General Schefski the media is different from the rest. Um.

509
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: I think he could get you out of a game

510
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: on offense, but he doesn't look like the receiver these

511
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: other there's a respecial team player. You know, there's a

512
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: reason the Patriots never used him as a receiver when

513
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: they had awful receivers, even when they had Yeah, and

514
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: a lot of people won't say he's a lot like

515
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: Welcome and Edelman. You know, he really isn't known. I

516
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: mean he's he's an easy cover. Um, he can get

517
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: you out of a game, but he didn't make a

518
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: scene probably. Yeah, man, they paid him accordingly, and he

519
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: has extreme value on special teams, so he's different than

520
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: the others. Um. I think pickings a star one thing,

521
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: and I will say about him isation but double catching

522
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: of the football, it's becoming a trend. I've seen a

523
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: lot of it, and he often recatches the football, so

524
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: that part of it is good. Like you see him

525
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: the quick bobble and then he'll and he read grasped it.

526
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: It's still worrisome though, Yeah, against the NFL defensive backs

527
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: who are closing on you and trying to knock that

528
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: ball loose, are you going to continue to do that?

529
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: When that happened? Those guys are extremely good at getting

530
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: an arm between your arms, you know that circle you

531
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: know when you're catching the ball away from your frame

532
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: they'll get their arm in there, and if you're double

533
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: catching it, you're not gonna catch it again. Um, he's

534
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: a good separator, but he's an elite separator. So what

535
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm going with with that is someone's gonna be near

536
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: him a lot, you know, And that's one of his

537
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: values as being a contested catch. That's what made Larry

538
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald so tough because he just snatched a football and

539
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: it it was like keep vice gripts, but he clamped

540
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: it down. So maybe he's just having a rough couple

541
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: of days on that. I don't remember that being an

542
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: issue with Georgia, but that's the one thing in the

543
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: negative column I could come up with it all. So

544
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: I come to like, they did a seven shots the

545
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: other day and I thought trabisk he made a nice

546
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: throw to him in the back corner of the end

547
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: zone and he kind of double caught that thing. And

548
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: on the second step because he had double caught it,

549
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: no touchdown right, just takes a little longer, get your

550
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: feet in and all that stuff where they guy can

551
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: push you out or you can't come down with it.

552
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: But in terms of physicality blocking, the blocking really shows up.

553
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: He plays hard. He wants to be great. You can

554
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: see that he's putting in the work and he's big. Yeah,

555
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: he's smooth, he's explosive, he changes direction and he's good

556
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: vision with the ball. I very much think he's gonna

557
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: be a star. Yeah. Um, Austin has shown well, you

558
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: see extremes like ridiculous speed. Yeah, let's go to ridiculous speed.

559
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: You don't even have to really pay attention. It's like whoa,

560
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's flying down the field. He's

561
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: shifty too, he's good with the ball in his hands. Um,

562
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: everything kind of we thought, you know, those those end

563
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: a rounds and jet motions and stuff haven't bore a

564
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: lot of fruit. But I also think T. J. Watton

565
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: are coming and things like that. Yeah, they they're reading

566
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: it and they they see it every day like you're

567
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: not gonna you know, but will value in that way.

568
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, edge guys will see him screaming across the

569
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: formation and you know, slow their feet a little bit

570
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: when they play an inside run. That's the thing too,

571
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: was like these guys are now getting a gauge on

572
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: how fast he is. Yeah. Yeah, whereas when he goes

573
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: into plays, you know, when they play the Bengals in

574
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Week one. Bengals are gonna have any idea how fast

575
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna watch a little bit of preseason tape and

576
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: have their their college evaluation whatever they you know. And

577
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: the thing about Austin, the no fault of his own

578
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: really is he's probably the fifth receiver here now, so

579
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: I think he could be outside. I think he could

580
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: be a slot. I think he can be a gadget guy.

581
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Um who's ahead of him, Matt, I think Deonte clay

582
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Pool Pickens and Anthony Miller. Anthony Miller, who's are a

583
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: favorite of this show thus far. I don't know that

584
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: everybody else is kind of caught onto that one because

585
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: I keep seeing, like we do the interviews over at lunchtime,

586
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: guys coming out, you know, up off the field after

587
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: the morning's practice, and I, you know, I keep seeing

588
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: other guys get pulled aside, you know, the Miles Boykins

589
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: and and you know some of these other guys, and

590
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are missing the boat here on

591
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller. He's better on all those guys. Yeah, And

592
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: he's running with the first team. He's run the first

593
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: team with most people being out right, I don't know

594
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: how he fits in. I really think he's a slot

595
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: only but he's not a tiny little guy. I mean

596
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: he's a physical, especially above the waist, thickly built guy.

597
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: Another one that's passionate about the game and blocking and effort.

598
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: He's good out of him. He's a way better version

599
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: of Ray Ray McLeod, way better, way better. I mean

600
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: he's a He's an NFL starting slot type receiver for

601
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: a lot of teams, and if that's the fallback option,

602
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: you're in great shape or one injury away from him

603
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: playing a ton of snaps or Claypool doesn't work out

604
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: in the slot. He combined for a hundred and one

605
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: catches for over eleven hundred yards, a bunch of touchdowns too,

606
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: I think over ten touchdowns, and the quarterbacksky, I mean

607
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: that matters. Yeah, it matters. Yeah, went back and watched

608
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: a lot of that and there was a lot of

609
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: times he saw one on one to Miller and he

610
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: was basy. He could have put up on the scoreboard.

611
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm going there pre snaps because he's gonna win this,

612
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: and you win contested catches. He'll catch bad balls. Yeah,

613
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: he separates. I don't h percent know what happened in Houston.

614
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: I do think there was an injury involved. And then

615
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything here last year, but they didn't

616
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: really need him and he was jumping on a moving train.

617
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a player for this team. Yeah, and

618
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: they're giving him a million plus I think too. Yeah,

619
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: and they like I think he's I think he's really

620
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: going to make an impact this team this year again

621
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: if he just gets the the Ray Ray McCloud targets

622
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: from last year. Yeah, exactly. Mean okay, I mean that's

623
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: an upgrade in a big way. But I mean, heaven forbid,

624
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: if Deante Johnson misses six weeks or so, Miller's gonna

625
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: catch five balls game. Yeah, he's all of a sudden,

626
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Now you've got a competent four, a guy who's played

627
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: NFL snaps. There's really a three to me. Yeah right right,

628
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: A lot of teams he would be a three or better. Uh,

629
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: Boykin has been Okay, I don't this size really shows up.

630
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: He could be a guy that I think when they

631
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: get down the final cuts, you start shopping him a

632
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: little bit to see if somebody's interesting, because I think

633
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: he'll he'll make some plays in the preseason. I was

634
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna lump boy Kin and Sims together just for that reason,

635
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: because they don't even look like they play the same

636
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: sport or the let in the same position. I mean,

637
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: they couldn't be any difference and tiny, but both those

638
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: guys have some pedigree they've played in the league. Depending

639
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: what teams want, you could see some attraction there. I

640
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: don't think Attorney the one of them into a seventh

641
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: round pick, but I bet think both will be in

642
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the league this year. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe you

643
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: do one of those. It's a conditional pick. Maybe. Yeah. People,

644
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, you give the team that guy and in

645
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: your seven for a six or something like that. Next

646
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: year seven or something like that, you get something out

647
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: of them, because there are enough teams out there. I

648
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: mean Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys right now would kill for

649
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Miles Boyken or Steven sim Yeah, they would make cause

650
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: they're that team right now and probably played decent snaps there.

651
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: The Bears who have issued the falcons um somebody's else

652
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: is gonna have injuries at that position where they're gonna

653
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: look at, hey, we could use an n a guy

654
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: who's played NFL games. I will say you know because

655
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: of the college they went to, uh similar combine drafted

656
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: sort of in the same neighborhood. Boy Can and Claypool

657
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: have been compared to each other throughout their careers a lot,

658
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: both AFC North guys. Claypool is much better. Yeah, I mean,

659
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: we haven't seen much of Claypool, but I've seen Claypool.

660
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of boy Can. He's not a sudden yeah.

661
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't come out of his brakes as well.

662
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like we were watching him on punt team.

663
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: He was fine. He's big and physical, but he's a

664
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: build up speed guy. He doesn't explode off the line

665
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He's not a real sudden player. Yeah. Um,

666
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: moving on to the offensive line here, real quick. I

667
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: gotta give him an incomplete created tie. I don't have

668
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: any clue. Yeah, three again, three padded practices. I keep

669
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: emphasizing that point to people. Three padded practices, no nausea

670
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: Harrison there. Um you know for any of those three

671
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: petted practices, no pet Friarmouth. Um, you know those guys

672
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: are gonna be a big part of that as well. Um. So,

673
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm certainly not more optimistic you know anything.

674
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: I guess it's negative that they have not dominated the

675
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and the little we've seen, but I

676
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: do say last practice there were some holes. Yeah yeah,

677
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing as many holes in the practice

678
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: as this past one. They moved some bodies a little bit,

679
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: and Warren and Durant and smelling those guys weren't hit

680
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. They started moving their feet,

681
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, three yards on the field with some some burst.

682
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: Hey that's a big step forward. Yeah, right, and it's

683
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: against a good front, right right. Uh so, yeah, we'll

684
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: we'll see what, you know, if we do this a

685
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: week from now going into the preseason game, where after

686
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: the preseason game, we'll have a much better grasp on

687
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: what this offensive line is starting to look like. Yeah. Yeah,

688
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Friday night lights will be useful as well.

689
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: One on one drills, we'll see. I'm really warming up

690
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: the Kendrick Green as a guard, you know, just especially

691
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: and based on some of the movement stuff that they

692
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: want to do, because he can run, he can run,

693
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: he can get out and be a lead blocker on

694
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: sweeps and we've seen a lot of sweeps a lot

695
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of sweeps, a lot of all the lineman moving in unit.

696
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: Old fashioned sit right, not just outside zone, just an

697
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: outside pitch, and we're gonna let the running back run

698
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: out there by himself with a receiver. This is this

699
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: is the whole line getting out there in front. Absolutely

700
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: and I think that fits Green more than dots. And

701
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: but again, it's hard to comment on this group. I mean,

702
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: I've heard some rumblings that they're not loving the center

703
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: situation right now. Um, I can't really tell, to be honest. Yeah,

704
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean you know that that's again it's

705
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: it's it's still early in camp. Um that that unit,

706
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: more the more so than any other, I think, needs

707
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: time to work together to gel. Yeah. I have no

708
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: do you if they've jelled yet or not? You know,

709
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to say. Um, I don't think any of

710
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: us expected to be a top ten line, No, you know,

711
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: but if it's better than last year, I had somebody's

712
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: asked me today on my chat, Um, you know, can

713
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: this line, with this line, can they make the playoffs?

714
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Or can they can have a winning record make and

715
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I'm like they did that last year. Yeah,

716
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: And I think it's better, and I think it's better

717
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: that line was. You know, this line is better, so

718
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: especially with James Daniels. Yeah, so we'll see, but we're

719
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: gonna take another break. We'll get to the defense when

720
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: we return. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

721
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

722
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: We are live from St. Vincent College. We'll take you

723
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: to five o'clock and then of course we'll have the

724
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights practice later on tonight. We'll be back

725
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: from with Moura right after this. This is Black and

726
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: Gold fan habit and say welcome back. I'm Dale Lally

727
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. We are here at St. Vincent College,

728
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: live here in with Trope as we are on a

729
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: daily basis every day the Steelers practice. Of course, that

730
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: practice to night we'll take place at latrob Memorial Stadium.

731
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: U that's not until seven o'clock tonight, so no practice

732
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: going on ongoing with us here in front of us

733
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: as we have I've been seeing here. But as a result,

734
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: the fly to human ratio has changed dramatically. For whatever,

735
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: we're the only got here. The flies we are here

736
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: all over the table. So I think Jacob is the

737
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: is the thing drawing these flies in. Possibly he's less

738
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: sweaty than yesterday. Though he is less sweaty, he was

739
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: very a very sweaty man. Yes, I don't know much

740
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: him to talk. I was yesterday was hot, but Jacob

741
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: looked like Jim Bibbie and the bottom of the eighth

742
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: and uh three of her stai back in the day.

743
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: Keep a shutout going. Yeah. Uh. We're going over the

744
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: Steelers position by position here, whether you're trending upwards, trending downwards, uh,

745
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: staying the same. And we're onto the defensive line. Um,

746
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: it's another tough one. It's kind of like the offensive line, right,

747
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: you know. And Ogan joe Bi and Alo La and

748
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: Heyward Hayward hasn't done any team practiced the last two

749
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: days and neither Ogan, joe Bi or Ala La practiced

750
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: at all. So I can't give you any kind of

751
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: comment on any of these guys, although I will say

752
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: that I didn't talk to Tarrell Austin uh the other

753
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: day a couple of days ago, and he's really excited

754
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: about what Isaiah louder Milk can be. That's actually a

755
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: couple of my nuggets for the d line. We're gonna

756
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: be well, it's pretty it's pretty certain that Cam can

757
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: still lead the team and set the tone and you know,

758
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: get everyone on the same page and uh lead with

759
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: a big stick, and you know he's still very much

760
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: in charge whether he's on the field or not, and

761
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: he can set the tone. Um. I as I mentioned

762
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: louder Milk, you know everyone that you talked to behind

763
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: the scenes or even just the naked eye, really thinks

764
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: they got a guy there. You know. I mean he

765
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: has extreme height in length and when they're looking for

766
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: that in that position, that one I mean and removes well.

767
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: And he's getting better and better. They may have stolen

768
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: guy in the middle rounds their last year, which is great.

769
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Uh Leal's shown up a little. You know, you see

770
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: him get off the ball and you know there's some

771
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: physical traits there that are obvious. Um, the Davis brothers

772
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: haven't been total afterthoughts. They've made a couple of plays

773
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: as well. And you mentioned this too, as a lot

774
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: of us, myself included, have kind of just written Henry

775
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Mondo off, Mandu off, and I don't know, there might

776
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: be a little premature. Yeah, Um, you know, I think

777
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: he's he's pretty technically sound and hustles and does you know,

778
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: does all that stuff. I think they like. Yeah, Chris

779
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: Wormley is a guy that's just solid and brings you

780
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: bring some of that veteran leadership that what with without

781
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: those top three guys is a very young group. And

782
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: so I think, you know, Warmly is a guy that

783
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: can kind of bring and keep that that all together there.

784
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: So he proved last year that he's adequate or better.

785
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be a tough cut when they

786
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: get to time to down to it with that group. Well,

787
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: because we didn't even mention Adams, I mean I think

788
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: Adams has value. Um, it really seems like they'll probably

789
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: keep seven, I mean seven stopped though, because if he

790
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: keeps something there, you know, you have to you have

791
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: to find that an extra spot somewhere else. And then

792
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: how do you do that? And you're also almost guaranteeing

793
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: yourself that you have an extra D lineman inactive on

794
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: game day because they don't, I mean, they're not gonna

795
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: do a lot of other things for you. So what

796
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: do you go in with five of them? And every

797
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: week you have to you know, inactive, not the best

798
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: way of you know, organizing the roster. I guess warmly,

799
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: if one had to be traded, warmly would have value

800
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: that you could get something for. I would think he'd

801
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: be the name. But I don't think they're in the

802
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: mood to you know, lighten that ground, not after what

803
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: happened right right right, And he's not making a big

804
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: buck and it's you know, it's that's why I think

805
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: he's attractive, you know, kind of like why the Steelers

806
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: wanted him. And I think he's more valuable now than

807
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: when the Steelers traded for him. Yeah, you know after

808
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: last year. Uh, the outside linebacker position and we'll call

809
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: it the edge. You know what, high Smith, you get

810
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: you an art Avery there, de Lante, Scott t Dame T. D. Moultrie.

811
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: You've got Alex Heismith. Obviously, Derek Tusca two is our

812
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: skipper watch a superstar, not a peuge shock there. But

813
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: he has changed my mind with that. No, he looks

814
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: better than ever our elite to whatever great word you

815
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: want to say. I mean, they can't block him and

816
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: he's reading plays left and right. This isn't a bad

817
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: or good thing that I haven't noticed. Highsmith a lot,

818
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: to be very honest with you. Um, Avery, We've talked

819
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: about a lot. I think is really exciting. He's explosive

820
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: in a straight line, a different style than what they've had,

821
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: their versatility, comfortable dropping into coverage. I don't think he's

822
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: a snap eater. I think he's more of a curveball.

823
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Um Tusca, I think is what he is. I mean,

824
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: a good special teamer, solid number four. And Scott. There's

825
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz around. Yeah, Delante, Scott's the one

826
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: who's the who's the uh definitely has the arrow up

827
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: on him. Um, you know, we'll see what he looks like.

828
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what what they do with him

829
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: when they get into games. That was the problem with

830
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: two Zar Skipper his first go rounds, the first couple

831
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: of guys. This is his third time. Um, he kept,

832
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, asking, I gotta I gotta be out there

833
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: special teams. I gotta be out there on special teams.

834
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: And they weren't doing it with him. Um, you know,

835
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: he just wasn't being used on special teams. You have

836
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: to be a special team to play on that is

837
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: a third, fourth or fifth definitely the fourth and fifth

838
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: yea and without question, and I assume Avery will be

839
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: a core special team or two. Yeah, I mean that's

840
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: just what he's done because of his career. That is

841
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: one of the problems though, of signing justin Houston, earning

842
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: guys like that right right there. They've been stars. They

843
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: don't have a background special teams. They're not gonna start

844
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: of learning now. Yeah. The insideline backer position, you have

845
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Devin Bush, Miles Jack, Buddy Johnson, Marcus Allen, Robert Spelline, Ulysses, Gilbert,

846
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Mark Robinson. That is a loaded room as well, and

847
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: NFL caliber bodies. Uh. I've seen some good things out

848
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: of Robinson. Yes, Uh, he's looked good out there. I've

849
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: seen you know, Gilbert looks really good in coverage and

850
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: his fluid and you know, you know it was tied

851
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: uh for fifth last year in the league. And special

852
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: teams tackles, he's gonna be hard to cut. He's gonna

853
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: be very hard to cut. Buddy Johnson looks like he's

854
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: making some plays out there and doing stuff. He looks

855
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: more and more comfortable and shows up a lot. Yeah.

856
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Marcus Allen's a guy has been hurt and that's really

857
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: gonna hurt his I think he's gonna be a tough

858
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: guy to make the team. It's gonna make it tough

859
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: when you missed as much time and have all the

860
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: names you mentioned or all enhancing their stock because we

861
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: know Bush, Jack and Splain are making this team. Splain

862
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: is a solid three. Yeah, And I don't think it's crazy.

863
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it won't happen soon. Maybe one of those

864
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: other names could surpass him at three, you know, just

865
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: because I think he's a limited ceiling guy. But he's

866
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: almost like Mason Rudolph, Like the coaches trust him. You know,

867
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: he's not gonna make a mistake. You know he knows

868
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: where to be. If you get him, he can get

869
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: you out of the game and be fine. He's tough.

870
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: Um Bush looks good. Yeah, I mean I like he's

871
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: being much more downhill aggressive, just more definitive. And what

872
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: he's doing snapper snap, which we didn't see last year

873
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hesitation, a lot of that

874
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. This year, he's he's obviously coming with

875
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: a plan, like I gotta I gotta get to the

876
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: line of attack, the line of scrimmage a little bit more. Yeah.

877
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: I think that's evident. Um No, hitching his giddy up

878
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: in terms of running or recovering ground. You know, we'll

879
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: see when the when the games, I mean, we'll really

880
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: see him week one. I mean, I don't think the

881
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: preseason is gonna change my opinion on Bush. I want

882
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: to see the first couple of he looks finding coverage. Yeah,

883
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, And they're they're you know, they're putting him

884
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: up against Anthony McFarland and guys like that. They're gonna run.

885
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: They're tough, challenging. You have to guard the whole field.

886
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: You have no one helping him, right. I think Jack's

887
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: been a success so far too. Yeah, I mean he

888
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: looks like a professional starting linebacker, recognizes things well, blows

889
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: up plays before they happen. Um, there's obvious physical gifts

890
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: there too. Yeah. That's that's a tough position, Um, in

891
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: terms of drafting these guys, because it takes time at

892
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: that position. No, it does, no question about it. That's

893
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: what's interesting about that young group to me, the recent

894
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: draft picks, the Gilbert's and youngers. They look good at here.

895
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, but if you're playing the Niners and Kyle

896
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan's messing with your mind, what's it look like you know, yeah,

897
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: try are you're making a bunch of false steps and

898
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: doing things of that nature. So we'll see what you know,

899
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: how that looks well once they get into uh into

900
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: some gameplay here. Um you know, I I here's the

901
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: problem that yet. So you you're talking about, you know,

902
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: perhaps keeping seven defensive lineman, could you short yourself on

903
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: the edge, you gotta keep four. The thing is Gerard

904
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Avery gives you some flexibility there he does. Now they haven't.

905
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: I haven't seen one snap of him as an off

906
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: ball lineback. No, I haven't seen any of that either.

907
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: But I know he can do it. I know he

908
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: can do it. But I prefer not to move on

909
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: from Buddy Ulysses right right. I mean, the draft pick

910
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: probably makes the practice squad no problem, Gilt. You know

911
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Danny Smith needs Gilbert still. Can you keep if you

912
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: keep seven defensive linemen, can you afford to keep nine

913
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: linebackers or even ten linebackers? They have kept ten linebackers

914
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: in the past, But then you're gonna short yourself somewhere else.

915
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: I think you probably keep four outside guys, yeah, you know,

916
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: which isn't great for Tusca. Maybe, Yeah, I mean we'll

917
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: see and somebody of this that we're talking about it

918
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: will get hurt or be on the pop or you know,

919
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: it's actually off of the year. But I also think

920
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: there's there's more d backs worthy on the team too

921
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: than you the other part. You know, you can't. They're

922
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: a little deeper safety. They're probably not going to keep

923
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: more than twenty five defensive players if you split things

924
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: up right, pretty evenly, and that's usually how how it works.

925
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: Offensive defensive, maybe he gets six and twenty four maybe maybe,

926
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: but it is hard to stash them too. Yeah. Absolutely,

927
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: a guy like Buddy Johnson needs to show the team

928
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm uncuttable, and yeah, that's hard to do. Yeah, you're

929
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: you know here, fourth round draft pick you got last

930
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: year on scholarship, right, he got easy street for a while,

931
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: which isn't gonna keep up. Yeah, now it's time to

932
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: have to put up there. And you you know, they've

933
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: used it again. Bush was the first round pick, Buddy

934
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Johnson a fourth round pick, Marcus sell In a fifth

935
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: round pick, Ulysses Gilbert a sixth round pick, Mark Robinson

936
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. They've used draft picks on that position,

937
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: and that's just since two thousand eighteen, not to mention

938
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: going outside the organization for Schobert and Jack, you know,

939
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: trying to fix the problem too. So really, since Shazier

940
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: has gotten hurt, they've been searching here. Yeah, I mean

941
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: they went all in on Bush. They you know, they

942
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: tried some other things before that, they these late round picks.

943
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: It hasn't been a strength of the team since Ryan,

944
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: but I think this might be their best group that

945
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: they've had in that time period. I'm hesitant, though, because

946
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: when they signed Schobert, I said, up solved, problem solved.

947
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: I think Jack his head and shoulder, I know, right,

948
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: But I was high on schober when he got here too,

949
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: and that didn't go so well because he was better

950
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: than the guys that they had, Yeah, he was, so

951
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 1: I think what still wasn't the answer. I think Jack

952
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: is clearly better than anybody else that they've signed over

953
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: that period, and I hope his knee holds up and

954
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: he's the same player now as he is in November

955
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: and December and all that stuff too. You know, before

956
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: we get into the secondary, we're gonna take another break.

957
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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lalley. You're listening

958
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: to the Drive here and at live at Saint Fencent College.

959
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Of course, the Steelers aren't practicing this afternoon. You'll do

960
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: that tonight over Latrobe Memorial High School Stadium, or saying

961
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: it's just a troupe Memorial Stadium. But we could take

962
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: a break here on the Drive and we'll be back

963
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: with more right after this. When you want black and

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