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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge Podcast. I'm Cassie Cherigo, joined by

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Speaker 1: our new Hall of Famer Cliff Brown. We were filling

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Speaker 1: in for Ryan Meek and Garrett Downing today who are out.

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Speaker 1: But Cliff, we just sat through Jesse Mentor's press conference.

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Speaker 1: He just introduced his three new coordinators here at the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: We have new defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, offensive coordinator Declan Doyle,

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Speaker 1: and our guy Coke capped our new special teams coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Levine Senior. What are kind of your first thoughts

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Speaker 1: coming out of that?

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Speaker 2: Well, when they walked down on stage together, you got

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Speaker 2: a vision of how new this era is going to

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Speaker 2: be as far as the four of them leading things

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Speaker 2: from a coaching perspective. But it also struck me that

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Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver, Jesse mentor Anthony Levine have all been here before.

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Speaker 2: They're really Ravens to the core, and Declan Doyle is

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Speaker 2: really the only newcomer who's never been a part of

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Speaker 2: things as a raven So it's an interesting dynamic in

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Speaker 2: that it's a new staff, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: raven already in them. So I'm really excited to see

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Speaker 2: how's all going to come together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really good point. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: were used to kind of a new face as an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator too. We've seen that kind of in the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, more so than on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, and especially with having a new

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Speaker 1: head coach. But yeah, to your point, these are three

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Speaker 1: people who know this organization well, and they kept kind

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Speaker 1: of reiterating that there are going to be things that

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Speaker 1: are going to be the same because the bones of

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Speaker 1: this organization are so good. There's been so much success here.

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Speaker 1: They're not coming in trying to change everything, but there

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Speaker 1: will be changes. This is a new era both sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball, Like both sides talked about it, so

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting for sure. I thought it was cool

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Speaker 1: that Anthony Levine and we talked about he first time

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Speaker 1: being a coordinator too, So it's interesting that we have

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Speaker 1: we know, Declan Doyle's first time calling the plays, but

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Speaker 1: he's been an OC before. For Lavigne, it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: he'll be someone coming in who's never had that role.

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Speaker 1: And it was cool to see he talked about oppressor

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Speaker 1: that he Andre Jackson, one of the guys that he

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Speaker 1: really worked super closely with, last year, we did a

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Speaker 1: whole feature piece on that and wired that he flew

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Speaker 1: up last night just to come and support him. We've

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of players in all the press conferences,

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Speaker 1: Jesse's introductory press conference as well, but there's definitely a

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Speaker 1: lot of buy in, you know, there for him, and

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Speaker 1: it's really cool to see. We've both been here and

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Speaker 1: seen him kind of transform from the player to then

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Speaker 1: the coach to now the coordinator and in such a

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Speaker 1: short time. It's it's really impressive. But that's that's such

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Speaker 1: a soft spot for him, I guess, you know, and

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Speaker 1: like it's it'd be so cool to see him, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of take this next leap. And he he talked

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Speaker 1: about the impact that Chris Horton had on him last year,

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Speaker 1: really like giving him the ability to be in front

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Speaker 1: of that group, lead meetings and kind of prepare him.

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Speaker 2: For this, no question. I mean, Anthony Levigne was a passionate,

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Speaker 2: emotional player and he's a passionate coach with a lot

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Speaker 2: of emotion. I mean during practices you hear his voice, yeah,

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Speaker 2: talking to players. He's demonstrating and telling them what he

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Speaker 2: wants them to do, and that's just who he is.

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Speaker 2: He can't be any other way. And I think Jesse

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Speaker 2: Mender has really taken a broad view putting his staff together,

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Speaker 2: which I really like. I don't think he had a

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Speaker 2: certain cookie cutter This is who I want, this is

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Speaker 2: what I want. He knew what he was looking for,

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Speaker 2: but he knew it when he saw it. And he

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Speaker 2: made a point with Levigne to say, hey, he earned

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Speaker 2: this job. I know he's a former player, people like

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Speaker 2: him around here, but that's not why he is the

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Speaker 2: special teams coordinator. He is that because I feel he's

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Speaker 2: going to be the best person for the job. And

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Speaker 2: I think that Jesse is really relying on not only

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Speaker 2: his knowledge but his instincts putting this staff together. And Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's very impressive how they all kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a great point. And he started

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Speaker 1: it's interesting that then as he built out this coaching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to see more obviously once the

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Speaker 2: to them every day. I mean yeah, it's like when

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Speaker 2: everybody's thinking about, Okay, how am I going to get

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Speaker 2: along with this person? What's this person going to think

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Speaker 2: of me? Well, this is a new coaching staffs. So

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Speaker 2: many of these players on this roster. John Harball was

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Speaker 2: the only head coach they ever had, and now this

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Speaker 2: is a clean slate for everyone. It's a chance to

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Speaker 2: interesting too, Jesse talking about we're in a race to

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Speaker 2: get prepared for the players when the players come. He

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Speaker 2: wants the coaching staff to know exactly what they how

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Speaker 2: they want to coach, how they want to work things,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, everything even little things like you know, when

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Speaker 2: when are we going to practice? You know, what's the

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Speaker 2: offseason schedule going to be? Like everything is new because

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Speaker 2: we have a new staff. So Jesse, I think it

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Speaker 2: really has a handle on what he wants things to be.

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Speaker 2: He wants us to be a coaching a coaching staff

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Speaker 2: that's friendly to the players in that it gets the

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Speaker 2: most out of them. You know, we always have to

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Speaker 2: be sometimes encourage a player, sometimes you have to be

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Speaker 2: tough on them, but the bottom line is to get

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Speaker 2: them to play their best and that I think is

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Speaker 2: what he is always in the back of his mind.

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Speaker 2: How do I get us as a coaching staff to

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and to your point, Levine was able to

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Speaker 1: speak about his relationship with Jesse as a player, and

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Speaker 1: he made that exact point that Jesse would tell them

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Speaker 1: especially in this role as a head coach and speaking

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Speaker 1: this presser was, as Declan Doyle tached Lamar Jackson, what

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Speaker 1: is that relationship like? What's that process been like? You know,

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Speaker 1: he shared he spent an hour with him on Zoom

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I just finished typing a story about that

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Speaker 2: very thing. Yes, I really don't watch a lot of

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Speaker 2: these relationship shows, but I think that Declan and Lamar

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Speaker 2: I think it would be very well watched and people

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Speaker 2: are yes, that's the dynamic and yes between them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Lamar is such a great player, such a gifted player.

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Speaker 2: But yet you know, coming off an injury, play gear

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Speaker 2: my mind, regardless of what had happened with the coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: But to come back with a new offensive coordinator who

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Speaker 2: obviously has a lot of ideas, who's the same age

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Speaker 2: a play caller. It's really interesting dynamic, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's really at a good time in Lamar's career because

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Speaker 2: he has more command of the offense from a quarterback

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Speaker 2: used to say, the keys of the offense, the ability

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Speaker 2: very vocal about what he wants with Declan, what he likes,

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Speaker 2: And I also think it's good that Declan worked with

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Speaker 2: certainly hasn't done it for as long as Lamar has,

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Speaker 2: but there are similarities and that to me gives declan

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Speaker 2: in this offense to really shine. And yeah, their relationship

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Speaker 2: I think is going to be really good. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is fascinating a watch.

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Speaker 1: Well, he said this quote that I loved. I had

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Speaker 1: last year with Caleb to your point, and he just

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about having to defend two different plays

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Speaker 1: what that second play looks like. And that's something that

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Speaker 1: he's really excited about the challenge of making sure even

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: Excited to kind of work through that with him this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Talked a lot about that, and he had his three

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Speaker 1: words for the offense what his vision is, physical, detailed,

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Speaker 1: like coming out of the season, we say Okay, that

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Speaker 1: was an offense that was physical, detailed and explosive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that I think it surprised me a little

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Speaker 2: that's the first thing he said was physicality. I think

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Speaker 2: the people get caught up in the Bears, you know,

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Speaker 2: And if you don't block it, well, it becomes very

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Speaker 2: difficult to work. And yes, for him to mention physicality first,

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Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. He really wants and that kind

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Speaker 2: be the team is most physical. And so even though

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of you know, i'm not gonna say

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