1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. It's always the simple things in order 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: to repair. It's always the most basic item that creates 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the issue. Easy, take it easy, don't let the sound 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: of your own wheels drive you crazy. The Car Doctor. Yeah, 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: I think you're on the wrong censor unless I'm unless 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I would verify that. My understanding is 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: on o weights, they take vehicle speed signal off the 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: right front wheel speed sensor. Welcome to the radio home 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. 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Driving around today coming in to 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: do the show, and I noticed the I'm gonna say 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: it was about a ten year old Ford Van E 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: two fifty three fifty Remember when Ford had some common 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: sense about him on the kind of cars they sold, 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: and they made big vans for carpenters and construction workers 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and plumbers and things, you know, and insteading to cram 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: everything into the size of something the size of a Volkswagen. 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: And I noticed the inspection sticker on this vehicle October 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: of and I went, wait a minute, it's the new 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: year like it's But is it overdue inspection? I thought 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: to myself. And I've decided maybe New Jerry, z Really 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: is the state of Confusion instead of the State of 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Because if I can't figure it out, how 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: does the local boys and girls in blue figure it out? 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: How do they know to enforce the law? How do 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: they know whether or not that vehicle is due for inspection? 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what's wrong talking about well in New Jersey? 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: See there's there's there's a magic pillar New Jersey, or 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: this is the land of magic where some cars not 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: all cars, and some trucks not all trucks. Are required 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: to be inspected. It's it's not it's not equal, all right. 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: The laws of of of common sense don't really apply here. 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: So if you're driving a commercial vehicle, which this van 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: did not have commercial plates on it, but it looked 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: kind of like a home depot, kind of weekend warrior 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: type person, if you know what I'm saying. Um, it 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: just it didn't have commercial plates on it, and I 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: had an overdo inspection sticker. So now the question in 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: New Jersey would become, what's the GDW, what's the gross 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: vehicle weight rating? Well, it's an E three fifty van. 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he's toting palettes of popcorn around. I 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: think it's more like a you know, a heavy duty vehicle. 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: But you see, if it's a certain g v W, 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: it's not required for inspection in New Jersey because well, 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Actually, UM, I think the argument 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: I've heard from some of the motor vehicle inspectors is 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: that they look at the number of types of those 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: vehicles that are exempt on the road and then they 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: decide that, well, you know, maybe we don't need to 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: require that to be inspected because there's only six thousand 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: of them instead of sixty thousand by comparison, and perhaps 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: that ratio number isn't exact, but that's that's their line 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: of thinking. You see, I live in New Jersey, but 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm an auto mechanic. I have some common sense 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: about me. I think, because I think one dirty bomb 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: could probably kill you, just like one bad vehicle with 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: braakes coming down a hill overloaded with no inspection sticker 70 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: would kill you. And I don't understand that line of thinking. 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: I really don't. Down around the bottom of the hour 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to show you how New Jersey is really prepared for 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: the future, We're gonna be talking to Owen Procter. He's 74 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: a he's a writer for the North Jersey Record here 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, The Bergen Record has been around for 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: a million years, and we're gonna talk to him about 77 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: how New Jersey, New Jersey, New Jersey needs twenty three thousand, 78 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: eight auto mechanics in the next seven years. Now I 79 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: realized when I retire, there's that's problem. Probably good for 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: two or three, but still okay, we'll getting around the side. 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Twenty three almost twenty four thousand auto mechanics in the 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: next seven years. I know shops that have helped wanting 83 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: heads out for the past five years, and they haven't 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: gotten one guy to walk in the door that can 85 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: chew gum and walk at the same time, much less 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: be able to fix a car. So maybe that's the plan. 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Maybe in New Jersey, we're not gonna require vehicles to 88 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: be inspected because we're not gonna have vehicles because what's 89 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: the point. We're not gonna have mechanics to fix them, 90 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: So I won't really matter. But it's a sad state 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: of affairs here in New Jersey. It really is in 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: in terms of where we're going, and I'm serious about that. 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: I can't tell the difference what vehicle needs to be 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: inspected and what vehicle does not. How do how do? 95 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: How does the police department? No? You know, you look 96 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: at this van. Your first reaction is g it's two 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: years overdue inspection. But you know what, I have a 98 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: sneaking suspicion this vehicle is exempt. And unless you're really trained, 99 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd be trained. You have to 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: know g VW, you have to know exact model here. 101 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: You'd have to know a bunch of factors. But the 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: bigger picture, coming back to safety, It made me think 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: that how can you tell what's safe in New Jersey? 104 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: And by that, I mean, you know, commercial vehicles in 105 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey, commercial vehicles within a certain gross vehicle weight 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: rating are required to go through safety and action. So 107 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: we have to we we we have to look at 108 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: tires and breaks and exhaust and lights and wiper blades 109 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: and make sure that they're all in good working mortar. 110 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: And I get that, But then I don't understand how 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: the majority of vehicles, and I've talked about this before, 112 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: ranted probably how the majority of vehicles driven by you 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: and me and anybody else in the state of chaos 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: here otherwise known as New Jersey doesn't have to be 115 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: inspected because previous governors in the current governor, I think, 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: by his lack of action, continue to believe that most 117 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: people will maintain a car. I've been fixing cars forty 118 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: three years, and I've got to tell you the number 119 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: of times I could count somebody walking in and saying, hey, 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: I've got to put wiper blades on my car because 121 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I'll see better. Boy. It just it just doesn't happen 122 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: that often, you know, it just doesn't. It's it's more 123 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: a case of well, the check engine lights on. And 124 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: here's a perfect example, the check engine lights on. I'm 125 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna sell the car, can you turn the light off? 126 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: So when I traded into the dealer, they don't see 127 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: that the car has a trouble code and you just 128 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: look at them that and I can't tell you how 129 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: many times I've said no, and how many times I've 130 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: lost the customer because they didn't understand what an honest 131 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: mechanic looks like and they're insulted by the fact. But 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: the point becomes that we're letting we're letting the government. Well, 133 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I hate to get political, but 134 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: this is something I gotta get political about because it 135 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of irks me. We're letting the government decide what's 136 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the safe vehicle on the road, and we're exempting common sense. 137 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I remember ten years ago where we talked about and 138 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: we've been talking about the coming shortage and auto mechanics 139 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: for decades now. We could see this coming down the road. 140 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: Years ago we looked at the technology to look at 141 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: this and say four thousand or so mechanics needed in 142 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: the next seven years. Tells me that we're so well prepared, 143 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: we're so we're so understaffed in this area. And again 144 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: we let the government make a choice in terms of 145 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: what sort of programs to be made available. Auto mechanics 146 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: are not are not something that you grow. You have 147 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: to nurture, You have to take consistency. It takes a 148 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: long time. It's like it's like prepping somebody to play 149 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: in sports, except an auto repair. You have to win 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: every day. You can't, you know, have a losing record 151 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: and still get paid. And it's something that I think 152 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: is gonna smack not just the residents of New Jersey 153 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: in the face, but it's gonna smack everybody in the 154 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: face because the coming shortage auto mechanics is going to 155 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: leave a deep, lasting impression upon all of us, just 156 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the way the shortage of save vehicles on the road 157 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: in New Jersey has left the lasting impression. Or soon 158 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,359 Speaker 1: could just remember the New Jersey inspection pro Graham will change. Eventually. 159 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: All it's gonna take is somebody's breaks to fail, some 160 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: catastrophe to happen as a result of and I'm not 161 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: wishing this, but I'm just being practical. You know, they 162 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: always managed to put a stop sign up at that 163 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: bad corner or change that stop signed to a traffic 164 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: light after the fatality, because that's when the government gets 165 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: reared up and and and and more riled up. Maybe 166 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: not as much as me, but they try n zero. 167 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: I am ron Ani in the car, doctor, and I'll 168 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: be back to open up the garage doors right after this. 169 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: For the best in car advice, give ron a call 170 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero zero zero. Now back to 171 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: rock and to close out that comments about that opening story, 172 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: I thought to myself during the break that I did 173 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: I say everything I wanted to say. You know what, 174 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: I realized they've they've unfortunately, they've actually confused the police 175 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: because you know, and maybe they haven't maybe the cops 176 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: don't have time to be worried about inspection anymore, but 177 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: they've sure made their job harder trying to figure out 178 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: do I pull this guy over for no inspection sticker? 179 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: Do I pull this guy over for an expired inspection sticker? 180 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: Or should I go chase the guy that I think 181 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: is selling drugs the kids on the street corner like 182 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: and obviously the magnitude is different, but it makes their 183 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: job more difficult. New Jersey, get your head out of 184 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: your the sand. Let's go over and talk to Terry 185 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: in Illinois. Terry, welcome to the car doctor. How can 186 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: I help? Yes, Okay, yeah, I got a two thousand affinity, 187 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: he's a high thirty. Of course it's got. It's got 188 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: the Nissan huh motor and the Nissan or maximum Nissan 189 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: motor and transmission. But um, I've done it. I'm only 190 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: been doing this about a year, but every every oh 191 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: after the oil change I get, I get a lot 192 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of carbon build up. Uh. When I first started, I 193 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: just I took some c foam and uh took the 194 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: tube and got this phrase of c foam down my 195 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: int I made sure the you know, the tube was 196 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: sealed around the uh the air and duct and everything, 197 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: and I got it in my intake. And once I 198 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: spray the c phone and the carbon runs perfect. I mean, 199 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: everyone's like this brand new. But after three months, I 200 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: can tell you that carbon build up coming back because 201 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: I get a lot of just some hesitation going on, 202 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: and uh, I spray the c foam again and it 203 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: all clear out. So I'm just trying to see what 204 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: can I do to stop the carbon build up? Heavy 205 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: mileage car Terry I was got Now I's got two 206 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: under thousand on it, Okay, so it's got a fair 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: amount of mileage. I'm curious what the relationship is to 208 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: the oil change. You're saying changes the oil seems to 209 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: make a difference in how the car runs. Well, knowledge 210 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: is keep up with it. So I do my h 211 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: my oil changes, uh like every three months or that 212 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: three or four thousand miles between every three or four months. 213 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: I do that oil change, but I do the oil. 214 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I always spray the uh the shee comb in there 215 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: before the oil change to you know, make sure all 216 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: that the cabinets getting in the old oil. I don't 217 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: want to miss it with the new oil. So I mean, 218 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: once I do that, you know, let it, let it 219 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: soak or ship for ten fifteen minutes and burn off 220 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: the off the deposits inside the motor, inside the crank case, 221 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: you know, the car, the park the car is perfect, 222 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, no hesitation, uh you know during warm up. 223 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean the cars just like man like brand new, 224 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: but like after when it's time for the oil change. 225 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: The three months and that that it's like the carbon 226 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: build up. And I can tell is that carbon by 227 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the way it hesitated. And I keep I keep ninety 228 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: two ninety three and the you know, my for fuel 229 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: for jas um. I guess my question is why aren't 230 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: you you in some sort of in tank carbon cleaner 231 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: in between the oil changes. But we haven't just come 232 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: to that yet. You mean, like that you're pouring the 233 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: g in the gas change. Well, I do I do 234 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: that too. What do you want to do? I tried 235 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: the lucas it didn't seem to be doing too good. 236 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: But I tried to see phone. Since uh, I pray, 237 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: I put the c foam in the intake. So I 238 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: what I do is, uh, of course some C phone. 239 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Let let my dassn get down to a quarter of 240 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: a tank. Put the C phone in there, and I 241 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: fill it up to like three quarters of a tank, 242 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: and I drive it for a couple of days before 243 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready to do the oil change. Right before I 244 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: do the oil change, I put my C phone in 245 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: the in the in tank and uh, I mean after that, 246 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean let the so fire up and uh, you know, 247 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: burn off other carbons, you know, through the exhaustment. The 248 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: car is perfect. Yeah, I'm gonna get my oil change, 249 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and three or three or four months, I mean the 250 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: car is running. Agree, But right, said we had three 251 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: and a half period. I can I can show the 252 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: curbon deposit is building back up. Well, I gotta tell you, 253 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't think the c foam is cleaning out the 254 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: carbon to a level that you're expecting it to just 255 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: by just by what you're doing to it, all right, 256 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: And and I I really tend to think that I 257 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: would try a different chemical if what you're using isn't working, 258 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: all right. You know this is you know, if what 259 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: you're doing to fix the car isn't working, do something different. 260 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's the simplest rule and 261 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: auto repair as long as what you're gonna move to 262 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: is is a logical, you know, common sense move, so 263 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: to speak. I'm not to say that you're not using 264 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: common sense. I get what you're doing, um so, And 265 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: you know what c foam. I have some respect for 266 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: c foam. I've used it maybe once or twice over 267 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: the past forty years. I don't use it a lot. 268 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of access to it. I 269 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: know there are legions of c foam officionados out there. 270 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Guys rave about it. They use it all the time. 271 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: My argument against c foam is number one and have 272 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: direct availability to it. I could. I guess I can 273 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Amazon it or something. But c foam. I always hear 274 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: a lot about c foam from my friends with boats. 275 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: I tend not to hear a lot about c foam 276 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: with my friends to drive cars. And you know, the 277 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: last time I looked at c foam and maybe they've 278 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: changed the formulation is that c foam was a marine 279 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: product and then they converted it to an auto automotive product, 280 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: and it's it's I think it's got some automotive legs now. 281 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know to what degree. I think fuel 282 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: system cleaners are only as strong as the company that 283 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: the engineering that's behind it. How you know, how much 284 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, what's what's the chemist doing, what are they 285 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: looking at? Are the evolving for the new fuels and 286 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: so on? I think you have two issues here, Terry. 287 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: I think the first is I think, more so than 288 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: a poor in fuel system cleaning or a spray in 289 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: the intake fuel system cleaning, this car needs a good 290 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: old fashioned carbon cleaning. UH. Hook up a machine, run 291 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: the injectors, run fuel system cleaners strictly through the injectors. 292 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Let it, you know, do its job against the carbon 293 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: deposits that are there, the heavy deposits, the tops of 294 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: the pistons and so forth. And you know, there's a 295 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: couple of different products out there you can look at. 296 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: I would look and see what your repair shop has. 297 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about where they disabled the fuel system, 298 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, take away the fuel supply of the tank 299 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and tied directly into the fuel rail somewhere and actually 300 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: do a good old fashioned carbon cleaning. That's that. That's 301 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: step one, step step two. I think let's change product. 302 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's try some Berryman. And you knew I 303 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: was gonna say that, but I like Berryman. Berryman's a 304 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: company that they've got. They've got a bunch of fuel 305 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: system cleaners out there, uh, Barryman Products dot com. They've 306 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: got all sorts of cleaners, and they've also got something, 307 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: They've got an oil treatment. And I'm wondering if there's 308 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: some sludge build up in the crank case. I'm wondering 309 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: if the rings aren't ceiling as well as they could 310 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: be two or thousand miles. I'm wondering if there are 311 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: things that are sticky and and and corrosive and so 312 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: forth that I'm wondering if a couple of oil treatments 313 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: to this car over the course of the next six 314 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: months to a year might help its longevity as well. 315 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: So I think this is a three step process. I 316 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: think this is a get a formal carbon cleaning done. 317 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: Let's try some Barriman fuel system aditive with their HUT 318 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: with their hest technology, high energy solving technology which has 319 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: a lingering effect to continue to eroad and and and 320 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: dissolve carbon. After that, it's it's it's gone, and it's 321 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: bult form from the tank, so to speak. And and 322 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: then let's try their oil additive UM to maybe do 323 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of an oil flush prior to doing 324 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: that oil change to get the contaminant out. UM. So, 325 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: three step process. Bourbon Products dot com is where you 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: want to read about it. UM also available your local 327 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: O'Reilly Ota park. All right, and UM, you know, see 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: what happens and kind of take it from there and 329 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: let's report back. Let us know what goes on. I'm 330 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: running nating in the car. Doctor. Hey, coming up next 331 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: Owen Proctor eight hund mechanics for New Jersey in the 332 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: next seven years. That story coming up next. Don't go away. Well, 333 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: this car is automatic it's systematic, it's hard, dramatic. What's 334 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: a breeze lightning? Hey, hey, welcome back. We're on nating 335 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor here. You know, I've said it 336 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: for years. We've been talking about it for a very 337 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: long time, and it's something I felt g twenty years 338 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: ago when I saw where computers were taking over cars, 339 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: that there was going to be a shortage of mechanics. 340 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: But now it's sort of sticking right in our face. 341 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: Recent article in the in the North Jersey Record here 342 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: in New Jersey by Owen Procter, New Jersey needs twenty 343 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: three eight auto mechanics over the next seven years, and UM, 344 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: it's a staggering number, and it's it's it's a little 345 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: on the scary side, but it's also a wake up 346 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: call to a New Jersey and the surrounding states on 347 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: what we need to do and how are we going 348 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: to do it? Well here to talk about it today 349 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and highlight some of the facts. Owen Procter. Oh, and 350 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: welcome to the Car Doctor sir. Thanks Ron, thank you 351 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: for inviting me to be on the show. UM. Always 352 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: a pleasure. UM accurate article. I thought the article was 353 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: very timely. I think you hit the nail on on 354 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: on several of the heads. Um, can you tell us 355 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: a little bitbout where these numbers come from. People are 356 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna listen to this and go, oh, twenty three hundred mechanics, 357 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: that's got to be an exaggeration. But they're based on 358 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: statistics correct, Yes, And if you look at them nationally, 359 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's and this is coming from the U. S. 360 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Bureau of Labor Statistics, and uh, if you look nationally, 361 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: it's seventy six thousand, six hundred annually. Uh. Then we're 362 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: just talking about cars. I tried the narrowest down to 363 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: the art, because you can go all kinds of directions 364 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: with mechanics. Uh, this is the just the automotive technician 365 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: who's working on family cars and a girl rodge Uh, 366 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, either a dealership or a small independent operator. 367 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: And you know it's just uh annually is just staggering 368 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: through two thousand twenty six. And it could even get 369 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: larger if you look at the diesel end of it, 370 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: which goes easily probably over a hundred thousand mechanics needed 371 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: each year, and that that breaks down to uh three thousand, 372 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: four hundred annually in New Jersey and and that's, uh, 373 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: that's a lot of New Jersey's population of nine million people, 374 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of those folks are driving, right, And 375 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: I think the issue comes back to what people have 376 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: to appreciate. That's that's thirty four bodies a year that 377 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: want to be mechanics or are capable of being mechanics, 378 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: but that doesn't make them good mechanics. Good good mechanics 379 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: take time. It's it's it's a cultivation process, it's a 380 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: learning curve. Uh, you know, it's it's in my opinion, 381 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: there needs to be an apprenticeship program, not just for mechanics, 382 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: but I think at a national level where it's it's 383 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: five to seven years under under a lead technician. How 384 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: this works, how that works, how we do this, how 385 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: we approach that is? Is there going to be a crisis. 386 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if you're reading this article where there aren't 387 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: enough mechanics and maybe there's a problem, maybe there is 388 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: that thirty to forty dayweight period to get your car fixed, 389 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: do you see any information regarding that. I didn't see 390 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot into that. Mostly I was looking into the 391 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: uh basically what educational uh you know, opportunities there were 392 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: and also to kind of get past that perception. Uh 393 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: where you know a lot of high schools these days 394 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: are you know, promoting college for all for your college 395 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: degrees in various fields. Uh, you know, auto automotive not 396 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: being one of those filled and to kind of uh 397 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, let people know that that is an option 398 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: out there, in a very vible option if you have 399 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: a passion and a drive to to work with your hands, 400 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and you know, so we don't come back to that. 401 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: So we don't get to that situation. There are no 402 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: mechanics that are good, you know. And the thing is, 403 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: there's probably folks that are very good with their hands 404 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: that are doctors and lawyers, you know, and they went 405 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: into another field because you know, perhaps they were pressured 406 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: more to go to those more the white collar type jobs. 407 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: You know. It's it's funny, Oh when you talk about doctors. 408 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: I've you know, in in the past ten twelve years 409 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: or so, I noticed it. As you go to the 410 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: doctors for physicals and checkups, and you know, even to 411 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: the they all want to talk about cars, and they 412 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: all talk about the car they worked on when they 413 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: were in med school because they couldn't afford the new 414 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: car and you know how much they enjoyed working with 415 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: their hands and and and you're right, that's that's where 416 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: the passion starts. It starts because you enjoy working with 417 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: your hands, and you enjoy you know, tackling that problem 418 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: and sorting it through. And I don't see enough in 419 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: New Jersey, much less national in terms of you know, 420 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: the kids, all their parents want their kids to go 421 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: to college. And I think I think that's absolutely spot on. 422 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I think there is a problem here that we're promoting 423 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: kids to go to college when I don't know that 424 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: they necessarily all want to or should uh you know, 425 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: it's it's there are some kids out there. There, there's 426 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: some really smart kids that aren't mechanics. And I think 427 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: that's the crime of it all. And I think the 428 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: school systems have failed in that sense that they need 429 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: to go and cultivate these kids and and you know, 430 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: do a little bit more. Um what's the word. I'm 431 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: looking for a better a better refinement of of placement 432 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: so that their aptitude is tested I think on a 433 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: better scale. Is that a fair assessment? Yes, I mean 434 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: there's the and the thing is the industrial arts as 435 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: they call it in the high schools its kind of 436 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: uh gone to the wayside. I was, you know, fortunate 437 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: enough to visit one of the one are the three 438 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: uh only three New Jersey UM general education high schools 439 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that have uh of an a s C accredited program 440 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: and um you know, just to see the excitement of 441 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: the kids in the in the in those classes and 442 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: they even have an auto that come to auto club 443 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: after the classes. You know, you don't see a lot 444 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: of that in the you know, in in the high 445 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: schools anymore, with the exceptions of Botex schools, which of 446 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: course have automotive programs UM. And and to understand, especially 447 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: from the parents point of view that uh, it's a 448 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: it's a it could be a decent livelihood, especially with 449 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: this demand. I mean, you have the job security you 450 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: have uh uh which you could be averaging you know, 451 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: if you have some experience and some a SC certifications, 452 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: you could be averaging uh fifty nine thousand dollars in 453 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey UM. And this is done with with less time, 454 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: expense and depth that you have going through a four 455 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: year college program, you know in New Jersey. Well it's 456 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this. So the average kid 457 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: goes to college and where they come out with I 458 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: I see I horror stories of kids coming out of 459 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: college with with a hundred and fifty two hundred thousand 460 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: dollars in debt. So he he'll he'll go to this 461 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: trade school and learn how to be a mechanic. I mean, 462 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna kid he's his first couple of years, 463 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: he'll probably spend between fifty and seventy five thousand dollars 464 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: on a toolbox and some tools, and then as he 465 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: evolves into more uh in the field, he'll he'll grow more. 466 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm afraid to think of what's in 467 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: my toolbox after forty years. But uh, you know the 468 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: point is I've been making a living right along the way, 469 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: and you know, that's what I think we have to 470 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: encourage with the young people. I was enticed by the 471 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: part of the story. Um. New Jersey's min hourly wage 472 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: for Rarto Texas twenty three dollars or forty four hundred 473 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: according to the US Labor Statistics UM, that's a that's 474 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: a pretty fair number. Um. Uh, you know, at fifty 475 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: thousand a year annually within a certain time period, to 476 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: be making fifty grand a year walking out the door 477 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: of college and then or maybe not walking out the door, 478 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: but in your first couple of years and being productive 479 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: and uh um, it sure doesn't make a lot of sense, 480 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: does it. Own No, I mean, you know, it's like 481 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: I said you, I mean, you have the potential if 482 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: you have the drive in the passion to be much 483 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: uh you know, further along in life. And some of 484 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: your your your classmates that went off to uh four 485 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: year college certainly not knocking for your colleges here. I 486 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: mean it's everybody, you know. It's the thing is meeting 487 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: the needs of what somebody has a passion for, what 488 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: they want to do and what they can make a 489 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: livelihood out of. And and you know forty nine thousand, 490 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: you know isn't uh in New Jersey, he isn't uh 491 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, forty nine and uh say Mississippi. But but 492 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's sure sure anything as you're starting out 493 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: twenties fifteen, I mean one one one dealership owner told me, 494 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: you know that he has people that experienced that eventually 495 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: worked up to forty an hour and working hundred hours 496 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: a week and they make over a hundred thousand with 497 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: with benefits and the attention, you know, and I mean 498 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: that you can't get much better than that. Yeah, it's 499 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's only going to continue to evolve. 500 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I've always felt is, 501 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: and I think you're the same way you said it before. 502 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: They're never going to outsource this job. They can't send 503 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: this job overseas. You need to have mechanics right here. Um, 504 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, right here in the States, because you know, 505 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's something that's hands on. It's it's it's 506 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: something right here in your hometown that has to be resolved. 507 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: Everybody has to have a car, everybody has to get 508 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: to work, and uh, you know, it's just going to 509 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: continue to evolve and grow and become of an issue. Hey. 510 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: Oh and before I let you go, I notice you said. 511 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey voters recently approved um a bond of five 512 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: and a million for three and fifty million dollars. You're 513 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: gonna be set aside for votech programs here in New Jersey. 514 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: Is that a correct number? Well, here, here's that goes. 515 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's a five. It was five million, 516 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: it was three Uh, it was three d fifty million. 517 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: But that is going to be divided between votech programs 518 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: and school security. Now, I'm sure most of the listeners 519 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: know school security is kind of a big thing right now, 520 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: so you know, I kind of see maybe more play 521 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: going that way. But what I understand from from people 522 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: that are in the education, you know, they hope that 523 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: that money, I mean, any money is better than no money, 524 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: right And uh, you know there's a program that really 525 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: needs uh, you know, to to boost its automotives. They 526 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: can do it because it's not you know, it's it's 527 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: it's it's an expensive endeavor to you know, to to 528 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: get a training facility up to train um, you know, 529 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: kids and um to to train for the train for 530 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: the field. Sure, but you know what I think it's 531 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: I think it's an investment we're gonna have to make. 532 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh and what's the website? If the listeners want to 533 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: go and read the article, where can they find it? Yeah? 534 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: I think it goes to North Jersey dot com. Are 535 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: they getting even you know, just uh um google something 536 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: along automotive technicians. Yeah. I actually I actually found it 537 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: by searching it. I went to North Jersey dot com 538 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: and I searched twenty hundred auto mechanics and right away 539 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: the article popped up. Um, so we're part of the 540 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: We're part of the USA network, and of course the 541 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: Record a long time institution here in Oh Yeah, sure, 542 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Oh and I want to thank you for 543 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: taking the time. I thought it was a great article, 544 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: and uh, I want to applaud you your efforts. I 545 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: think I think you hit a very timely topic, sir, 546 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: and is very well written. Thank you all right, thank 547 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: you very much. Thanks for having me on the show. 548 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. I'm running any in the Car 549 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: Doctor will be back right after this. Heay, welcome back, 550 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: run on Any of the Car Doctor. Once again. I 551 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: want to thank Owen Procker, the North Jersey Record, the Record, 552 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: I believe it's is it New Jersey dot com or 553 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: North Jersey North Jersey dot com, North Jersey dot com. 554 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Great article there in New Jersey needs twenty three thousand 555 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: and Dredoda Mechanics. Get over read it, Google it, you'll 556 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: find it. Let's go and talk to Karen and Maine. 557 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Who's gonna yell at me? I understand, Tom tells me Karen, 558 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: what did I do wrong? Welcome to the car today. 559 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna yell at you. Not gonna yell at you. 560 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm just wiling. How come when everybody compares trucks, Toyota 561 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: is never included the Toyota Tundra versus the Ford, the GM, 562 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: the Chevy, the Ram. How come? I don't know. That's 563 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: a good question. Um, you know it's it's But then again, 564 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: how can we never mentioned Nissans? How can we never 565 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: mentioned Honda Ridgelines? How can we never mentioned you know, 566 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what I'm gonna tell you 567 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: from a practical point of view, I you know what, 568 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm either a Ford or a Chevy truck guy. I 569 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: just am, and I'm not gonna be ashamed of my biases. Um, 570 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: I think Toyota makes a good product. I don't think 571 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: I would trade in a full size Toyota for a 572 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: full size Chevyer Afford. But that's just me, um, just 573 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: my personal preference. Uh, you know, for the record, yeah, 574 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I think Toyota makes a decent product. Toyota and Toyota 575 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: and Ford or probably the top two vehicles I like 576 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: to look at and consider purchasing when I'm out there 577 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: to purchase something. If that makes you feel better, But 578 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: then again, maybe just you know, it's it's you know what, 579 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: maybe you know, I don't know. I'm gonna have to 580 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: think about that one, Karen. You know, I guess I've 581 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: had go ahead. I've had just about every one and 582 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: everyone except for a Ford. I've never owned a Ford. 583 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: But I traded in a Chevy Diesel to get my 584 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: Toyota Tundra because I was tired of always having front 585 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: end problems and the price of diesel back then was 586 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: too expensive and every time I needed to change the 587 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: oil all it was just too expensive and not worth 588 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: it to me to keep your Chevy truck was at 589 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: that was an O seven. Okay, they've come light years 590 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: since oh seven, They really have, you know. But then, 591 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: so you know, fair points. And then I want to 592 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: know how come Toyota had problems with the frames on 593 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: their pickups. I think it was was it the Tacomas 594 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: or the Tundras. It was the right and it was 595 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: it was a good it was a good four or 596 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: five years worth, right? Yeah? How had an O two 597 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Tundra that they completely replaced the frame. I have a 598 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: twelve Nowelves that I told a trailer with and I'm 599 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: very happy this. I love my Toyota I'm just Toyota girl. 600 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: I guess well, I want to know why everybody doesn't 601 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: complain about when Toyota needed to replace frames as a fault. 602 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: You didn't hear a lot about that in the news. 603 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: But every time a GM diesel was a problem back 604 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: in the day, or a GM automatic transmission failed back 605 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: in the day, we seem to be more And I'm 606 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna say this, and I believe it to be fat 607 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: in my mind, I think we we as we I 608 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: think the American people from what I've seen, my my 609 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: perspective is I think we are more critical of four 610 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: GM and Chrysler than we are of Toyota, Honda, and Nissan. 611 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: And that's just my personal observation. You know, people seem 612 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: to be more forgiving of Toyota, Honda, and Nissan than 613 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: they are of GM, Ford and Chrysler. And I, as 614 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: one don't understand that. And that's uh. You know what. 615 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: I wish I had more time because we could we 616 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: could have a I think, a lively discussion on this. Carol. Listen, 617 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: you call me back. I'm running out of time, up 618 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: against the clock. You call me back next week. Maybe 619 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: we got a little more time at the beginning of 620 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: a segment. Tell time to put you on early. Tell 621 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: him I'm not afraid of you, and that we'll have 622 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: a deep conversation. Right sweetheart, you have a good You 623 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: have a good New Year. Happy New Year to YouTube. 624 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm run any in the car. Doctor will be back 625 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back the car. Let's go and 626 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: talk to Mark in Las Vegas. Mark, welcome, sir. How 627 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: can I help? Hey, ron Um, I'm trying to take 628 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: this headliner out of my stepdaughter's oh seven beetle because 629 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: it's coming apart and she's had leaks around the sun reff. 630 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: I got everything unhooked pretty good, except I'm having a 631 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: hard time getting it unhooked from around the sunroof. She's 632 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: had leaks in this suner. I know now why you 633 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: say v W stands for virtually worthless, because it's a 634 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: vain and I've never I've never had a car where 635 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: the headliner just starts like peeling down, falling down. So 636 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to get this out of there, 637 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: and I got it everywhere except right around the sun 638 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: My question is do I need to take that sunroof 639 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: out or there is there some things I need to remove. Well, 640 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: I believe it's gonna une this before. I haven't done 641 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: a Beatle, Mark, I've done a Jetta. But and I think, 642 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: I think you're going to find that the sunroof doesn't 643 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: have to come out because it can't come out till 644 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: the headliner comes out. Do this because I'm up against 645 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: the clock. Have you been to YouTube? Have you searched 646 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: on YouTube? Because there I know there's a bunch of 647 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: videos on headline and removal on Beatle on YouTube, and 648 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: I would tell you to follow those, but go very 649 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: very carefully because you don't want to miss any steps. 650 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: It is a Volkswagen and it is very step oriented. 651 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I wish I had more time to give 652 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: you a better answer. Mark. Until the next time. While 653 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: Mornini and the car Doctor mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.