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Speaker 2: Now, then we got that out of the way.

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Speaker 3: I have a Navy seal, former twenty year veteran author

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Speaker 3: of a book coming out called Leadership is Overrated.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Bucket. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. Yes,

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Speaker 2: did I hit that Navy seal twenty year mark? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty years in the military. I retired just over twenty years.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you do twenty years a month

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Speaker 2: and a day essentially, right.

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Speaker 3: So you're super young looking and super in shape looking

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Speaker 3: and totally you know, good to go.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. It's funny, you know. Like I grew up

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Speaker 2: just north of New York City, across the river from

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Speaker 2: West Point Military Academy, and so I was accustomed to,

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Speaker 2: you know, being around the army until one day I'm

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Speaker 2: like seventeen years old and my dad comes home from

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Speaker 2: work and he's like, hey, Kyle, we you love you know,

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Speaker 2: everything around the water. You love being around rivers, lakes, oceans,

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Speaker 2: you name it. And this is the nineties, by the way, right,

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Speaker 2: And there wasn't a lot of information out there, but

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Speaker 2: there was a little book by Dick Mark Chinko that

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Speaker 2: was in existence, but I had never heard of it

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Speaker 2: because all I knew was Chuck Norris, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: and I wanted to be Chuck Norris. That's what I

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Speaker 2: wanted to do, and my dad comes home one night

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Speaker 2: and gives me this book. I'm seventeen, and I stay

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Speaker 2: up till five o'clock in the morning pounding through this book,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, that's what I want to do.

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Speaker 2: I want to be a Navy seal. So fast forward

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Speaker 2: to your young comming. I appreciate it. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I think you.

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Speaker 3: Know you got you got the Disney going on. You

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Speaker 3: away with looking young. You know, to say it, I

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Thanks brother, no child labor la. I received that. Well,

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Speaker 3: anybody yes, their hair, it's the hair.

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Speaker 2: What do you try to say? What are you trying

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Speaker 2: to say about hair?

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Speaker 3: I unfollically challenged. Unlike you think opposites a track, my friend,

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Speaker 3: I'll take even so, so I'm you know, I'm seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I fall in love with this concept of being a

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Speaker 3: Navy seal. And so my parents, however, would not sign

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Speaker 3: because you know, if you're seventeen, you need parental consent.

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Speaker 3: So literally, fast forward a couple months later, I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: fifty five am. Waiting for them. It's my eighteenth birthday

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Speaker 3: and I'm waiting for them. I'm skipping school, waiting for

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Speaker 3: the dotted line that morning, my eighteen today, this is

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Speaker 3: let's go and so, uh, you know I and I

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Speaker 3: go do, right. But my point is is I was

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Speaker 2: Thinking? What do I want to be?

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Speaker 3: And they read Dick Martinko's book, Marcinko's book, you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, oh now we're gonna get deep brother. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. You know, you've had multiple guests

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Speaker 2: every single one of those guests, I'm sure if you

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Speaker 2: is going to go wrong with your body, right, Like

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Speaker 2: something's going to go wrong with your body. No big

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Speaker 2: conversation that we say right, Like nobody gets through unscathed, right, dude.

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Speaker 2: body temperature was one hundred and two degrees going into

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Speaker 2: Hell week. And I don't say that to be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm big, bad, tough guy. Oh you're hurt, You're hurt.

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Speaker 2: You're hurt, and every single guy is going to get hurt.

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Speaker 2: Like name the guy you've had on any of your

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, exactly like Major General Doug, Doug, you know,

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Speaker 3: I like, yeah, no, everybody has got You give your

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Speaker 3: body to the military through the Military Interesting Processor Center.

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Speaker 3: MEPs go there as a recruit and they make you

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Speaker 3: spread them, drop them, pein a cup. They watch you

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Speaker 3: at you. Second of all, you got to go through that,

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Speaker 3: which happens all the time, you could get hurt there, right,

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Speaker 3: And then you go from basic to your a T

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Speaker 2: You can trip on.

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Speaker 3: The curb and hit your head, it's not even like

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Speaker 3: doing so, and that you can get hurt. And then

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Speaker 2: In right right? And I'm not blasting the military. I

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Speaker 2: just want to say that you know, no matter what,

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Speaker 2: if you're lying to yourself and you're not going to

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Speaker 2: of depression or anxiety or fear. Funny fact, this is

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Speaker 2: I was terrified of heights. It's called acrophobia. Like I

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Speaker 2: and I was still not I wasn't over heights like

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Speaker 2: Like my dad goes, hey, for real, for real, what

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Speaker 2: are you going to do about this height thing? And

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Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean the thing? I

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Speaker 2: ride all the rides of the roller coaster? What are

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Speaker 2: you talking about? Hype thing? And he's like he's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: remember when you were a young kid. We went down

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Speaker 2: to the USS Intrepid down in New York City and

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Speaker 2: he's like, I couldn't get you outside on the flight

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm that way on a pier. I get

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Speaker 3: losing on a pier with the water around me. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's like you feel like, I don't really I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Sorry, It's like I had a good eat get I

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Speaker 2: had a good shark story. Actually we could talk about later,

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Speaker 2: but dude, So my parents are like, what are you

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Speaker 2: to your question, right, like if you're lying to yourself,

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Speaker 2: if I'm lying in myself in that moment, I'm never

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Speaker 2: ain't even gonna get past the acrophobia. On the obstacle

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Speaker 2: course in basic you know, training to become a team guy,

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Speaker 2: I am terrified right now, like this is gonna suck.

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Speaker 2: And the whole time, I'm you know, white knuckle in

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Speaker 2: the thing. My technique's just gone to out the wayside.

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Speaker 2: It's hard save your life, self rescue the whole way up.

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Speaker 2: have to you know, hit a time right sure, But

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Speaker 2: give it everything. I had to make it through. So yes,

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Speaker 2: guys or gals should do that if they're not truly

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Speaker 3: The statistic that you're talking about, because if you don't

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Speaker 3: make it through your buds, you become if your contract

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Speaker 3: is for you know, the buds recruit and you don't

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Speaker 3: make it, you become pretty much in need of the

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Speaker 3: Navy at that point, and then you're going to have

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Speaker 3: to do the job of the Navy's but you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Get to choose in the first place. Yeah, well, I'm

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Speaker 2: forever grateful. On the flip side of that, though, I'm

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Speaker 2: forever grateful for the Navy. I mean, we so quickly

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Speaker 2: forever grateful for all those servicemen and women and what

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Speaker 2: they're doing.

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Speaker 3: So, oh, torpedo starboard aft forty five degrees, flip the wheel,

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Speaker 3: one beat down bubble. You know what I'm saying. All

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Speaker 3: the Navy. My dad was Navy in Vietnam on a

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Speaker 3: Morse code. He was the guy that had a.

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Speaker 2: Marine with a bullet with his name on it where

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Speaker 2: a frigate, is what he had called it, a ship

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Speaker 2: and the engine had gone sometime on a frigate myself, Yes.

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Speaker 3: His engines died and they were in I think Chinese

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Speaker 3: a team. So, for example, my father was an eighteen echo,

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Speaker 3: which is a communications expert on a special forces routine.

429
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Speaker 3: What would your job have been on the seal team?

430
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Speaker 2: Kind of like a fox trot echo to a degree,

431
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Speaker 2: it's a little different. But you know, my job early

432
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 2: in my early career was a breacher, and then it

433
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: turned into navigator, and then it turned into targeting and

434
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Speaker 2: intelligence and collection, and then I mean, I was blessed.

435
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 2: I had a wonderful career. And I haven't said that yet,

436
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 2: but like, I was so blessed, man rad I had

437
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Speaker 2: a wonderful career, and very early on, as I look back,

438
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Speaker 2: very early on, I got placed in positions of leadership.

439
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Speaker 2: I think I was at my trying to do the

440
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Speaker 2: math right now my head, I think it was at

441
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Speaker 2: like the seven I haven't really thought about. The thing

442
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: was like at the seven year mark, seven year mark,

443
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 2: where I first, you know, had a leading petty officer

444
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Speaker 2: position and before that ran departments but you know seven

445
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: years in six seven years in I'm in leadership roles,

446
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: and then for the rest of my career, right, And

447
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: so to answer you fast forward. You know, in two

448
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: thousand and eleven, the Obama administration had tasked US with

449
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: supporting operations in OEF Afghanistan with unconventional warfare, and so

450
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: that's basically working buy through and with you know, the

451
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: local population to establish democracy in the region. Right. And

452
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: so I was a resident expert in the in the

453
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: thought process because of my previous couple of years and

454
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Speaker 2: what I was focused on in Afghanistan and in Southeast Asia.

455
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: So anyway, I get tasked with this and I step

456
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Speaker 2: into a platoon that two weeks prior before I come

457
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: walking in the doors. Two weeks prior to this, they

458
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: had lost Captain America fierce Warrior Brandon Looney, a rock star,

459
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: a stud that everyone just revered and loved and looked

460
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: up to. He was a phenomenal officer and leader that

461
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: everyone just could not wait for him to have his

462
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: shot at being, you know, a platoon commander and being

463
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: in his platoon like the boys loved him, and rightfully,

464
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: so he deserved all of it. And so he gets

465
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Speaker 2: shot down two weeks before this what I'm telling you

466
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Speaker 2: about in Afghanistan, right at the end of their deployment, right,

467
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: so here comes So now fast forward a couple weeks later.

468
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: The guys are still mourning their best buddy, their hero.

469
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Speaker 2: They're rock Star and their fierce warriors, coming off of

470
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Speaker 2: a very kinetic and dynamic deployment in Afghanistan. And then

471
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Speaker 2: I walk, Hey, guys, nice to meet you all. So

472
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: I know some of you a little bit. Uh, hey

473
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: remember where you just were. Uh, We're gonna work buy through.

474
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go back there the people that just killed

475
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Speaker 2: your friend. We're gonna work buy through and with them.

476
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Speaker 2: We're gonna help them develop infrastructure, maybe even some irrigation, wells, roads,

477
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, help a security force, a police force. We're

478
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: gonna be eating with them, sleeping with them, trying to

479
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Speaker 2: establish democracy in the region, you know, the people that

480
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Speaker 2: just killed your best friend. And so in that moment,

481
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, in the in the you know,

482
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Speaker 2: months of time at leading up leading up into our

483
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: getting ready to go, I'm thinking, like, how do I

484
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: change this vibe, this culture of this dynamic to go

485
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: and then change a culture a vibe, a dynamic in

486
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Speaker 2: a foreign nation, right, Like, that's what we're going to

487
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Speaker 2: try and do is impact and change and shift a

488
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: thought process a culture. I was like, but first I

489
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: got to just do that within our own group, Like

490
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: how do I do this? Like? How do I do this?

491
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: And you know, God shined on me, gave me incredible support,

492
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: gave me an incredible team of self led leaders, and

493
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: I just started pulling stuff off the shelves of libraries, like, hey,

494
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: what can I do on organizational culture? Like there there

495
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot on the subject. It's become kind of

496
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: a hot topic nowadays, but there wasn't a lot back

497
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: then on like how do you change mold shift define

498
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Speaker 2: a culture of an organization, a culture of a team

499
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Speaker 2: into what you want it to be. And so back

500
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I got really fascinated with that

501
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: idea and it kind of continued on till present day

502
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: of paying attention to how groups do that, like how

503
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: groups define what they want their culture to be, refine it,

504
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: then implement it and build it, structure it out, and

505
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: then most you know, once you've done all that, how

506
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: do we sustain it? How do we scale it, and

507
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: I got very fascinated with with that idea of like, hey,

508
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 2: you can do this if you're intentional. If you're intentional,

509
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: you can do this. So that was kind of, sorry,

510
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: a long winded way of answering your question. It Yeah, no,

511
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: I wanted that.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great, and I think that our listener also

513
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: enjoys that long winded wrap around because you brought it home.

514
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: And so the book that you have now, which is leadership,

515
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: is overrated. You know, I do have a question. I

516
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: just want to through act you do you think that

517
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: leadership from the top down or you know, removing that

518
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: leader from the top changes leadership and what they've already

519
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: implemented into the to the subordinates. You know, so is

520
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: it really just like can we just change a president,

521
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: can we just change the CEO and change the culture

522
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: from that person or does it take the whole team

523
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: to realize the culture shift?

524
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Speaker 2: Great question, great question, Yes and no, right, like, yes,

525
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: we can do it if we're intentional, and it's going

526
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: to fail because here's the thing, right, like, everyone's got

527
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: a default culture no matter if you design and build it,

528
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: improve it, sustain it, and it's great or it's bad

529
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: and it's horrific. Like, no matter what, we've all have it,

530
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: we have a default. So it's a matter of hey,

531
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? How are you going to

532
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: support and improve it? So to answer more specifically on

533
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: the thought of a leader, yes, you have to have

534
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 2: a leader. You have to have someone. And that's what

535
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: we talk about in our book is giving that leader

536
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: the principles to do what we're what we're saying like, hey,

537
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: you can now create and empower and entrust your teams

538
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: to go out and crush it. And here's another here's why. Right,

539
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 2: And I think and I applaud the Seal teams. We

540
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: do such a great job at what I'm about to

541
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: say of the I wanted to name fun fact, fun

542
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: little side fact. You'll appreciate this, right, I wanted to

543
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: name the book kill the Leader. And then so we're

544
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: going back. We're going back and forth with HarperCollins, who's

545
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: our publisher. Well, they're like, well, I don't know, this

546
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: might be aggressive. We get it, we get it, it

547
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: might be aggressive, dude, no joke. We're going back. I

548
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: literally have like an email thread somewhere and we're going

549
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: back and January sixth, happens, Oh, and the capital gets stormed.

550
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: They're like, and like immediately the very next day they're like, Kyle,

551
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: we uh yeah, we're going with backup title. Oh yeah,

552
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: we can't do that.

553
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: It's too much, too close, too close, too too real,

554
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: too real.

555
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Yes, but what I meant by kill the leader, and

556
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: what we talk about in our book is the Navy

557
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: Seals do an incredible training scenario. Right we're running out

558
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: at a house or in a you know, an urbanized

559
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: combat situation or training scenario, and we will walk up

560
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: to the platoon leader, the troop chief, the platoon commander,

561
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: et cetera, and we'll just whisper in his ear and like, hey, dude,

562
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: you just took a gunshot round to the chest or

563
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: to the head. You're down, you're out. You're not allowed

564
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: to say anything, or sometimes you are allowed to say something,

565
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: but you can communicate to your guys. And sometimes will

566
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: be like, hey, you're completely down. And then he'll put

567
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: his you know, he'll save his weapon, lay down, and

568
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: then we'll tell, you know, the guy next to him,

569
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: like hey, this is what just happened. He can't talk,

570
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: so he can't talk back to you, and in that moment,

571
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: something very unique happens. Right, the platoon gets to see

572
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: as the next guy steps up into his place and

573
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: takes over and assumes command or assumes tactical lead or

574
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. The whole platoon gets to see like, hey,

575
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: does Johnny step up and take over? Does he rise

576
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: to that occasion? Simultaneously, what's also very important is the

577
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: tac leader. The commander gets to see, like, hey, how well,

578
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: how good of a job have I been doing mentoring

579
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: my number two? Have I been really encouraging and empowering

580
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: him and mentoring him? Or have I been just running

581
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: the show, not just keeping everything close hold Brice bowling

582
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: everything and not allowing him to ever step up into

583
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: a leadership role, never being self led it And then

584
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: everyone else gets to see it, right, so the whole

585
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: platoon sees it, and after later on having beers or whatever,

586
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: we all tease each other. But at the same time,

587
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: simultaneously you also get to see, Hey, this guy's ready,

588
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: this individual is ready, or let's tweak some stuff, or

589
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: he's ready. Okay, great now, if he's ready, we can

590
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: worry on. We can start focusing on the number three

591
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: guy and start bringing take him out, and.

592
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: Let's see what number three can do without that guy.

593
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: And what a great ladder system if you will, of like,

594
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: you know, teaching how to lead. I completely agree. Even

595
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: in my own personal business, I have a number two

596
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: and there's a business partner, and then there's a Mitch.

597
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: He runs the shop. Mitch shout out to Mitch.

598
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: I have to and I'm giving him credit because he

599
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: has a credit card for us.

600
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: You know, we gave him that card. It's like you

601
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: have to let go of some of the rains, you know,

602
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: so that you can grow and continue to grow your business.

603
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Because I can't do everything. I can't keep.

604
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: Getting concessions at Costco because I have to go do

605
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: something else at the bank, you know. So so Mitch

606
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: helps out, and so Mitch can take off that. But

607
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: the trust comes. Here's the here's the card, here's the card.

608
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: You are the operations manager. And he hits me up

609
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: and he talks to me maybe how I sometimes should.

610
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Hear it right right, you know, like.

611
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: Like a platoon sergeant coming up to you, like, hey,

612
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: you know, the men think that maybe pizza would be

613
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: good on Friday.

614
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: On Friday, why don't you just tell me just tell me.

615
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: You know.

616
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: But we have a very good open relationship at our company.

617
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: Everybody feels like they are I call them all managers.

618
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: You're like all your own managers here.

619
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know.

620
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: If someone call that says where's Rad? Say what can

621
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: I do for you? I'm like, really, Rad here, what's up?

622
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, I just wanted to find out

623
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: about this item. Well, how can I help you?

624
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: Take the call? Yeah that's great, man, I love it.

625
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: And so to the email. Just get it done, close

626
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: the deal, come to an agreement with whoever. Right, right,

627
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: you're empowering and and trusting them to be self flet

628
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: which is what we what we hammer on in the

629
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: book is like, hey, you've been given this opportunity of leadership.

630
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: We're I mean you and I. We live in America, right,

631
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: we were born I was born here. I think you

632
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: were right, Like.

633
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: We're yeah, I am, I am, Yes, we're blessed to

634
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: be born in America as American.

635
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't have to go through a citizenship test. I

636
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: would probably fail it. Right, we're so blessed. Right, we're

637
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: so blessed. I just get to have this title.

638
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: Okay, And some people coming over here are dying to

639
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: get here, literally don't and they just die on our

640
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: shorelines or they make it here and then they have

641
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: to go through testing and are you do you know

642
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: everything about being an American? And it's like, man, ask

643
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: somebody else what the fourteenth Amendment is or the seventh

644
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: Amendment that you know, totes of the American shirt flag?

645
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: You know, what is it? What's the third Ement? What? Right? Right?

646
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: You know? Right? I mean, we're so blessed and to

647
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: have that ability to lead just you know, and then

648
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: not empower and entrust those that you've been given the

649
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: gift of leadership. It's just like, come on.

650
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: I also tell my team I don't want to lose

651
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: them as staff, but I tell them, you know, I

652
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: hope I'm a stepping platform for your success to your future,

653
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: and if that's with me, so be it. But if

654
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: you go off and become some awesome editor on a

655
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: movie or whatever your dream is at NASA, you know

656
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: you can always look back and say, rag, got us

657
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: pizza on Fridays. I'm gonna do that for my team. Awesome,

658
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: you know that kind of thing. Feed your troops the

659
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: full belly, the fight, dude, fight, fight, some energy, get

660
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: them some protein.

661
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I even get them some of the name brand

662
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: chicken stuff that's out there. It may not just be pizza.

663
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: My team knows what's up. Nice. I'm in Texas. I've

664
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: been here for a little over two years. And one

665
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: of the first things that I did once we moved

666
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: here was me and my brother split a cow. I

667
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 2: didn't grow up really in an ag war, right right,

668
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: you know, just north of Manhattan. You know, you're not

669
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: really just growing up just north of Manhattan. You're not

670
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: like splitting cows with your friends growing up, So like

671
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: it was always on my bucket list. And then you know,

672
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: living in you know, San Diego, you know at the

673
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: seal teams, it's not like you're really doing that. So

674
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: it was once I got to Texas, I was like,

675
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: one of the first things I do, and I did,

676
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: and man, I'll tell you what that protein is insane

677
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: in Oh, I don't know.

678
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 3: Fun side fact, no, I've seen I've seen those big steer.

679
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: I did security at a show in Colorado called the

680
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: Michael Martin Murphy Stravaganza. He's a country singer and he

681
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: had these old guys riders in the sky playing and

682
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: all these different So I was security and the first

683
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: day is a three day event, and my boss goes, hey, rad,

684
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: I need to go guard this cow over here with

685
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: this vendor because you know, we want to make sure

686
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: no one gets close to it. And the show's going

687
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: on way over there. But I'm over here, stuck in

688
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 3: no man's land guarding a steer, and all the people

689
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: would walk by and be like, what's up with the steer?

690
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, these people are selling it if

691
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: you want to buy it, or it's brother and have

692
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: it made into this hamburger that they're feeding me. So like, hey,

693
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna be doing security here, We're gonna feed you.

694
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, dude.

695
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: And I mean like seriously, I'm sitting there eating this

696
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: burger in front of the cow, in front of this longhorn.

697
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: I was like, so, was this your brother or your sister?

698
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: Today I've stared away from red meat. I just want

699
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: to be clear. That was a while ago, twenty and one,

700
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine. These days, I haven't eaten any mammals.

701
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: I just want to be open about that.

702
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm a mammalarian, so interesting, Yeah, I kind

703
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: of moved away.

704
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: So what year did you transition?

705
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: Oh ninety nine, two thousand. So I got out of

706
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: the Air Force with a I met from red meat.

707
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: Oh red meat fourteen fifteen years ago.

708
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

709
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: So my dad started to like really go downhill on

710
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: his health and his heart. And he was eating all

711
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: sorts of like pastrami and like you know, hamburger and pastrami,

712
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: and it was just like cholesterol and just I just

713
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: was and then he died. But he was a Green

714
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: Beret and he never smoked or drank and did all

715
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: these exercises and marathons.

716
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: But just ate not healthily.

717
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: I just drank tons of like poisoned water, which is

718
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: what I call soda. You know, this is this is

719
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: water in here. Anybody that drinks and you can drink it,

720
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: but it's like how much sugar you're drinking. That's all

721
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying that, Honey, you hear that?

722
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Mom? Yeah, I give everyone so much gruff about you know,

723
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: diet coke and coke.

724
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: Oh I think it killed my dad. Yeah, saying come

725
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 3: at me, die coke. Go ahead, don't just shut this podcast.

726
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I think taequila is healthier good. Yeah,

727
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: I made based tequila is healthier than coke comes.

728
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: From the earth at least, I mean coke is like

729
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: the stuff we're talking about. These diet fad drinks that

730
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: are out there are just addiction fuel for I don't know,

731
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: it's not good for you. When my dad was put

732
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: into a home facility where they were watching him at

733
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: this nice place, he had to open our surgery and

734
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: they closed him up and they said we're gonna put

735
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: him in here for three or four weeks. He went

736
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: from not drinking any soda to like it was on tap.

737
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: They're like, do you want another, you know, metered thirty

738
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: two ounce mug of diet coke from the fountain jack,

739
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, I do. As a matter of fact,

740
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: I'm in the hospital and you're giving me this right.

741
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: He just sucking it down, and just I was like, man,

742
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: you know, he tried to do a lot of the

743
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: healthy stuff. So when I transitioned from you know, eating

744
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: red meat and animal to so I still eat eggs

745
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: and I still eat non mammals.

746
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: So I don't want to eat you. I don't want

747
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: to eat a pig. I don't want to eat a cow.

748
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to eat a bear or a polar bear,

749
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: but if I had to, I probably would. Right.

750
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: So, if I'm in the middle of Alaska and the

751
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: lifestyle is of the land, then I'm okay with it

752
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: because I'm going to treat it the same way that

753
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: they would treat it, which is I would leave the

754
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: remnants where I hunted it to move.

755
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: On its journey. Yeah. Fair, fair, fair, you know, but.

756
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 3: I'd still eat it. So that elk is probably gonna

757
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: be really good. But I still up here want to say,

758
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: why do I have to eat what is in the

759
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: grocery store forced to me? Like, you know, I've been

760
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: to shot show in Las Vegas where they do all

761
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: the gun industries, and I've seen how deals are made there.

762
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: I can only imagine there's a food industry, and I

763
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: can only imagine it's in Vegas, and I can imagine

764
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: how the deals are done there. So I take those

765
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: two things, put them together, and I say, why am

766
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: I buying this specific product right here.

767
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: In front of me?

768
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: You know, when I could have like lettuce and tomatoes

769
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: and other food other food.

770
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Processed foods.

771
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: I've really got on this boxing healthy kick lately, and

772
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: so I've been dedicated to that and just trying to

773
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: be a better eater of food.

774
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no. I mean, especially if you're feeling it.

775
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're probably feeling it in your body too, right,

776
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Like you're feeling that difference. I know me, I know,

777
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: I know me. Like when I remove grains, like when

778
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: I remove you know, grains and pastas and breads from

779
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: my diet. And I'm heavy protein, minimal nuts or lagoons

780
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: or even vegetables for the most part, Like I just

781
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: feel leaner and lighter on my feet, So I get it. Yeah,

782
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of different. You know. I had to give up.

783
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: Here's a different one. I had to give up. Right

784
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: around my late thirties. I noticed beer. If I had

785
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: a beer after like four pm, it would rock my world.

786
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: Just you know Ed.

787
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 3: Shearon, the great artist of our time. Ed Shearon said.

788
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: He said, you know, I have lost this weight recently,

789
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: and it's because I just did one thing and I

790
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: kicked out the SuDS. So he just he lost thirty

791
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: five pounds just stopping beer.

792
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: I believe it. He just stopped it, you know.

793
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: And I do like to have a cold beer, you know,

794
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: especially in nice Utah was ipa shout out. But listen,

795
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: I drink it and then I go to the gym

796
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: in the morning and I'm like, I'm just working off

797
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 3: that beer I had last.

798
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Night, right right. So it's like, you know, throwing gloves.

799
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, well, I'm trying to get my

800
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: physique to be more tactical Viking style.

801
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: That's my yeah, that's my goal. Yeah. That's why it's funny,

802
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, because while you're on deployment, especially in senthcom

803
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: you know Iraq, Afghanistan specifically, you know, non alcohol policy,

804
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: no alcohol policy. So I mean it's it's amazing. Everyone's like, oh,

805
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: we're working out, we'll crushing. Yeah, but you're also not

806
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: drinking and not consuming alcohol. Will just drop the pounds

807
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: right off, right, yeah, right away.

808
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: I had a friend who tours in a rock band

809
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: and he was just always fed everything he ever needs.

810
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, He's got a piece of paper with like

811
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: this is what I demanded every show, and it's always

812
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: in there, and it's all this food, it's all this stuff.

813
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: And he finally had to change his writer to say,

814
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: you know, don't put any more beer on my tour

815
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: for me. He didn't want it, good for it, and

816
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: then it started drinking like the more clear style stuff,

817
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: thinking it was less calories, you know, and trying not

818
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: to drink and trying to like still have that same

819
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: vibe and hang out like a rock star, but he's working.

820
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: Out at the same time, trying to stay on the road.

821
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: It's like, right at the end of the day, it's

822
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: just really alcohol is It's a mother brother, Especially when

823
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: you come from families that do have in your family

824
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: and you've been around it and it's in you now,

825
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: it's like, how do you kick it? You can stroke

826
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: from kicking alcohol. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's such an addiction.

827
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. There's a lot of cool apps

828
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: out there. I've been kind of paying attention to these days.

829
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: There's some really neat resources and apps out there. There's

830
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: this one that I just came across, so I'll give

831
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: him a shot out. It's called Sunnyside. No affiliation whatsoever.

832
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: But it's kind of interesting where you basically have a

833
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: person a Jane Doe texting you every day saying like, hey, hey, rad,

834
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: how are you doing. How many drinks have you had?

835
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: And you're and they'll keep pinging you until you respond

836
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: and then it'll then at the end of the week,

837
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: it'll give you like a report, like, hey, here's your report.

838
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: Like let's set a base. Let's set a base for

839
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: next week. Let's not try and just go cold turkey,

840
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: but next week, let's just try and drop it by

841
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: like two right across the entire day. Yeah, yeah, you know,

842
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: like try to just you know, it's pretty interesting. So

843
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: some good resources out there, but you know, yeah, it's

844
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: a big diet. Diet, baby, it is.

845
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: And now that I'm forty five years old and I've

846
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: been paying attention to it for like the last few years,

847
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: my wife's really good at it. We've got some friends

848
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: that are like dietitians, registered dieting and she's worked for

849
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: like UCLA and all these other colleges, and she's like,

850
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: you know, tofu, let me tell you about tofu. She's

851
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: like straight up protein. She's like, and you just look,

852
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 3: put it right down you It'll slip right down your throat.

853
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: If you're just looking for a.

854
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: Fast protein, you're gonna have to have doctor, do you know.

855
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: Paul Saladino is no tell me you're gonna have to

856
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: ever talk to him. He'll go down a die tribe

857
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: on how tofu is the exact opposite. Oh is that right? Yeah? Yeah,

858
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, oh wow. See everybody's just got you know, like,

859
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: what do you do? I know, I know, I got vaccinated.

860
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you. Kay, I don't care.

861
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go back and forth. No more. I

862
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: got it.

863
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: I took it right down below. Tell me how I'm dumb,

864
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go tell me I'm cool. Look at look

865
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: at my new Legends boxing shirt. Bro totally Mike Tyson,

866
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember what was it?

867
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: What was it? Like? At what point did the Green

868
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: guy come out?

869
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: So Piston Honda in the game? Number three or four

870
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: in the line. Yeah yeah, that's like Sandman dude.

871
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: I think.

872
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: That's maybe I should be in that game now. Bam

873
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: bam bam. Is there another book coming out? I know

874
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: you got this one. Are you working on something that's

875
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 3: going to be part two to Leadership?

876
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, we got two main efforts that I'm really focused

877
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: on right now. So our book is just like one

878
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: or product, one of our products or service or offerings

879
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: from our group called Culture Force. Culture Force is a

880
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: consultancy group. I'm not saying we're a Deloitte and two

881
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: sure a KPMG or an E and Y. But one

882
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: day we hope to be where we're really focused on

883
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: helping organizations that have between seventy five and seven hundred

884
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: and fifty employees really scale and build and refine and

885
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: improve their culture and then help them, you know, scale

886
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: it as they scale their services, offerings and products, and

887
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: so Culture Force right now is got a. It's pretty interesting.

888
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: It's pretty interesting kind of the indus stretes that have

889
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: been kind of gravitating towards US. You know, construction is

890
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: one manufacturing global supply chain and logistics, not a lot

891
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: of high tech. Although before this call, I just had

892
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: a conversation with the CEO founder of an AI company

893
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: and they want to bring us in and help them scale.

894
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: They have forty five employees right now. They're about to

895
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: do a Series B you know, bring in eighty million

896
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: dollars so they can grow and scale their team. So yeah, yeah,

897
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: so it's pretty interesting. We're kind of all over industries,

898
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: but you know, those are the main kind of industries

899
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: we're really helping and working with and helping them grow

900
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: and scale.

901
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: So it's a lot of fun. So somebody listening right now.

902
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: And they're a CEO of an organization and we do

903
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: have them listening all the time. How would they get

904
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 3: in contact with your organization to see if you guys

905
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: were a fit. They could go to Leadership is Overrated

906
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: dot com, which is also the title of our book

907
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: UH and you can learn about all of our services,

908
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: my partner and our offerings. My partners Chris and Tom

909
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: shout out to you boys. Chris was the head of marketing,

910
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: the CMO for Dave Ramsey Solutions. He also did Henry

911
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: Cloud who is the author of Boundaries and John Acuff,

912
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: amongst others. And then Tom Tom was the president of

913
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: Colgate Palm Olive when they moved into Europe and established

914
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: their entire Colgate Palm All's entire European presence. You know

915
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: the the Baltics as well as you know Eastern Bloc.

916
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: So so we got a we got a good team,

917
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: a great wheelhouse as well as Olive has branded me.

918
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: My whole childhood is like always putting your fingernails in

919
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: the dish.

920
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Of the Paul Malive. They're so good. And she's from

921
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: that team that movie White Christmas.

922
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: She's one of the right she's one of the sisters

923
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: in White Christmas, and she would all the Paul mall

924
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: of commercials.

925
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: God, why do I this is in my brain? God,

926
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: that was one. I'll tell you. My mom was very musical.

927
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: My mom was very musical, obviously, like you knew this

928
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: seven eight years old watching White Christmas. Danny K. He's

929
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: one of my favorite actors. I love Danny K.

930
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: I love that movie actually, because same thing, dude, that

931
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: was my internet here, let's watch White Christmas four or

932
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: five times.

933
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever had a conversation with someone

934
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: in this wheelhouse in your arena, and we've reminisced on

935
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: Danny K. Danny K my favorite, he really is. I

936
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: love him in all of his movies, and I've seen

937
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: like all of his movies. Oh man, that's a blasting past.

938
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 3: I'm such a great dancer too. I just have to say,

939
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, just too. Yeah, we'll get along just fine.

940
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: You can sleep over. Mom said, it's cool. Yeah, yeah,

941
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: that's right, just come to the basement.

942
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

943
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: It is, it is, it is I and I know

944
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: that I'm hitting everybody that's listening in the fields because

945
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: you all seen you know, now you know who Danny

946
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: k is. And there was a movie called Walter Mitty

947
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: and Danny k was the original Walter Middy who had

948
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: the imagination and was always like doing these different like

949
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: spy things in his life. And that turned into Ben Stiller.

950
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: And Ben Stiller now does the Walter Midty. He he

951
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: took over that character where he's like, I think a

952
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: bunch of pro skaters portrayed well.

953
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: Uh Zoolander. What's his name again? Who was Zulander name?

954
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: Ben Stiller? Thank you, Ben Stiller? Tangent man, you got

955
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: me nerding out now, I'm like, oh man, he was,

956
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm looking at like he did Pinocchio.

957
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: Hans Christian Anderson, bro they were in. He was in

958
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: Hans Christian Anderson. He did all the different stories of

959
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: like making the kid and the pie.

960
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: I forgot. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to

961
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: turn I forgot about these because now Hans Christian Anderson,

962
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: I remember that one too, on the Riviera. That's right.

963
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to watch some of these around the

964
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: holidays with my kids.

965
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: Danny k now now, whoever's editing this at the end

966
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Speaker 3: of the day on SOFTWAREP I need to mention of

967
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: Danny k the great actor in this on the down

968
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 3: below when you write everything out. If that's Mark or Anton,

969
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm giving a shout out to you guys, come on

970
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: now or Chris, if it's one of you. Three awesome

971
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: Secret Life Walter Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Now listen.

972
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: I love talking with you. I think you're a great dude,

973
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: and I think we could talk a lot more about

974
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: extreme athlete, mental toughness, leadership in the workplace. We've mentioned

975
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: how to get a hold of you. We've introduced you

976
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 3: to the soft rep community and Kyle, you're awesome and

977
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: you should pursue acting and just throw that to.

978
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'll leave that to the guys. You know you

979
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: got a.

980
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: Good skull for some face paint, bro. You know, like

981
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: you know, I'll leave it to Chris Pratt. I think

982
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: he does a job.

983
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: Bro. I'll tell you what so I'll trust listen and

984
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: we love you, We appreciate you. Oh Jack, and shout

985
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 2: out to Jack car Jack. Just keep writing, man. He's

986
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: supposed to be on the show. Jack's supposed to be

987
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 2: on the show pretty soon. We had him schedule for May,

988
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: but he had a book tour sure, and so you

989
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: know he's a busy dude. Lives right here in Salt

990
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: Lake Park City, right up the street for me. Really,

991
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: if you will want, Jack get on here. Yeah, really, Jack,

992
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: what's up?

993
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 3: Everybody go out there and tag Jack car and say

994
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: Rat says, what's up?

995
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me to come the soft Rep now, man,

996
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: thanks for having me on here. To everyone listening, thanks

997
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: for listening. If you're still with us, we appreciate you,

998
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: guys and gals and all that you're doing and all

999
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: that you probably I'm assuming do for this country. So

1000
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: thank you for the bum my heart that's right and on.

1001
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: Behalf of me and our United States Recruiting Command who

1002
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: doesn't pay me anything. If you feel like you want

1003
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: to go and do it, go go and do it.

1004
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: Go see what it's like. Go try it. You might

1005
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: just one.

1006
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: Foot after the other after the other after the other,

1007
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: and just see what happens on behalf of me and

1008
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: everybody here at soft Rep and a grateful nation. Thank

1009
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: you for your service, Kyle, and to your friends and

1010
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: much success in your business.

1011
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: And this is Brad say in peace.

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