WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Pollard Over Zeke?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Monday, December twenty first, twenty twenty, season sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number eighty four. Welcome the latest edition of The Break,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Geico. It's Christmas week and we've got all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of Christmas goodies for you guys. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Cowboys, and we're talking about the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>coming off. They're back the first back to back when

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Cowboys get the victory over the same

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco forty nine or forty one to thirty three. They

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<v Speaker 1>are firmly in place to still be in the hunt

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<v Speaker 1>for an NFC East championship, firmly and and maybe and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the playoffs and who knows, maybe the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, who knows where this thing is gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just excited. It's Christmas week, so we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>some fun ony five. That's where it went there. One

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<v Speaker 1>percent chance went to five percent, and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hype it up a little bit, just because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just got my guys here, got Nick got Dave

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<v Speaker 1>got Amber. Welcome to the show. Let's talk about cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>versus forty nine ers. Nick. I want to start first

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and because you you obviously have access that

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<v Speaker 1>most media people don't have. Talk to me about. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me about the locker room and that whole vibe

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<v Speaker 1>down there, just because you know, again, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know if the players are excited as excited as I

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<v Speaker 1>would think they would be. In back to back when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody was definitely excited after the game, they were excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what was going on, don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of presentation. It might have been something for LP, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know, but there were some It was

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<v Speaker 1>very joyous in there. Maybe they were giving Christmas presents.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it was exciting. Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but just coming out talking to them, they were they

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<v Speaker 1>were you know, this has been such a frustrating year

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<v Speaker 1>and to have two wins in a row, and to

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<v Speaker 1>win in a game like this. It was a tough game,

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<v Speaker 1>and both teams are, you know, losing a lot of players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just a relief of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, it feels good to win stacks and

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<v Speaker 1>wins together like this, and and and they're still playing

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<v Speaker 1>for something. That's the thing. They're still in. This doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what the percentage is next week's game. They think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna matter. It may not matter when they kickoff,

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<v Speaker 1>but it matters right now at this moment. It does

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<v Speaker 1>amber give me your big picture storyline of what you

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<v Speaker 1>take coming out of this game. Big picture, Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys kind of started right at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>show playoffs. And I mean, I don't mean to jump

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<v Speaker 1>back on that train or anything like that. But after

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<v Speaker 1>this game, the Cowboys goat me. They grabbed me back

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<v Speaker 1>by my pinkie. You know how little kids grab me

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<v Speaker 1>by the pinky. That's how the Cowboys got me. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pulling me by my pinkie. So I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fans that are back to being really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently they think that this type of momentum that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are gaining at this point of the season might

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<v Speaker 1>turn into the playoffs and they might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get somewhere further than that. Who knows. We just know

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty twenties a crazy here, and you can expect

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything can happen, Anything can happen, And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I guess this game made me more excited

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<v Speaker 1>than the game last week against the Bengals. This game

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<v Speaker 1>just show me a little bit more of consistency, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it happened back to bad so that part

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<v Speaker 1>was exciting to me. Just seeing the changes that the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is being able to make right now and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>them so so fired up. So that would be I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my little storyline of the game, all right, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>just storyline of the game. Uh, my storyline for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is just that, I mean, do the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>really know any other way? Yeah? Like it is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible for the Cowboys to not be relevant all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the bitter end one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>because I you know, this is my eighth season and

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<v Speaker 1>only once in those eight has it not been this way. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, they are like genetically incapable. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching, you know, I was watching the highlights from

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<v Speaker 1>all the other games last night, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots lost to the Dolphins, and they're just like, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Patriots are done. They can't win the division,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't make the playoffs for the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and eight. With two weeks to play,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just done. And I was like, what's that like, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>could not be me, could not be the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>to just know to a certainty it's gonna happen with

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<v Speaker 1>that much time left in the season, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's gonna be like this, at least it's entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was expecting you know, I was expecting like

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<v Speaker 1>a slong, like a twenty four. I think I said

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four twenty. I didn't think it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>very exciting. It was a hell of an entertaining game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it means, but all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>goofy stuff happened, and you know, if we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the bitter end not knowing what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, at least the game's fun. Yeah. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>said I'd tell this to people who always ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure we all have people in our lives that ask us,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it like working for the Cowboys, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>the great part is that it's it's just fun. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys always have something interesting going on, so it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>being able to cover it and talk about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the worst case, the worst case scenario is the season

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<v Speaker 1>you get into where you get to Thanksgiving and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to play for. That doesn't happen a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't happened a whole lot. And I'm NICKI

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<v Speaker 1>and I went through three, five and eleven seasons, so

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<v Speaker 1>we know what that feels like. But for some of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, like they like in Amber, like they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that feels like. This team is always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of seemingly just hanging around till the end and either

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<v Speaker 1>they get barely get into the playoffs or they're barely

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<v Speaker 1>out of the playoffs. And it's looking more and more

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<v Speaker 1>like this team could get to six seven wins, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think a couple of weeks ago, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that was possible, But it looks favorable

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll get one more, maybe two more wins before

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<v Speaker 1>the season's all done. Yeah, I mean, and that's and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a good division, you know, hasn't been a

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<v Speaker 1>good division, but but everybody seems to be playing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better. The Giants kind of faltered off a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but you know everyone else, I mean, Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>have got a spark, you know obviously when in hurts

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<v Speaker 1>and in Washington, you know they you know, their defense

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<v Speaker 1>is really good and they're gonna keep themselves in games.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Washington has a chance to win the division. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they'll go, they'll play Caroline at home. They

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<v Speaker 1>win the division, they can knock everybody else out. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't, that's interesting. Yeah. Now, now they're gonna start,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, feeling the pressure a little bit on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everybody has a chance to jump in there.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's let's get the funny thing too is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so, I just I think it's funny and rightfully so,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFE sucks like it's it's not a good division.

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<v Speaker 1>But whoever wins it after getting dogged on all year,

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<v Speaker 1>whichever one of these four team wins it, you can

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<v Speaker 1>already see the storyline of like, oh, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to FedEx and play this pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Or don't look now, but the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>more fans than anybody, so they've got a better home

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<v Speaker 1>field advantage and their defense has forced all these takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't want to play the Cowboys right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like whichever one of these teams manages to win, the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative is gonna be that like, oh, like they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scary if you got to go on the

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<v Speaker 1>road and play them. And it's just it's ironic after

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<v Speaker 1>how much Yeah, sure, I mean it's it's just ironic

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<v Speaker 1>after how much they've gotten dogged on that that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. And by the way, we've seen this happen before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Seahawks, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. They ended it in the season

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<v Speaker 1>I think at eight and eight, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>And they actually got to win in the first round

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs and it was seven to nine, yees,

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<v Speaker 1>seven to nine, and then they gotta win their first

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<v Speaker 1>round of the playoffs. So you know, it will be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I love about the NFL playoffs. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a one and done type scenario we've had. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys teams that are really good losing first round of

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Like, it's about teams that are hot at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. So you could have been hot all year

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not hot in the playoffs. One in doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>We quote brought us all the time on here because

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<v Speaker 1>he has all these great one liners and stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>brought us as this all the time NFL strange lady, right, yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>All I gotta say is Jets Rams. Right, that's exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>Jets Rams, It's exactly. It's a crazy lady, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's always what happens. It seems like to me, is

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not the teams that are that are flirting

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<v Speaker 1>with oh and sixteen. The week that they get that

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<v Speaker 1>one win, typically it's against the most improbable team. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the team that nobody expects him to get that win against,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the case yesterday, and they got and play

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<v Speaker 1>their best game of the season. All right, here's we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. Let's jump into some of the moments

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<v Speaker 1>that mattered. We'll go around the table. Everybody, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a moment from that game that you think was a

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal moment or an interesting moment, just a moment that

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<v Speaker 1>mattered overall. In the game. We'll start first, do you ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a specific moment, because there were several

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<v Speaker 1>moments that to me were very similar and had a

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<v Speaker 1>very big impact for the Cowboys. So I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with the general thing, and it was the fact

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<v Speaker 1>what the defense was able to do with the takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that the offense reacted those short field advantages.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one of the things that I've been complaining

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<v Speaker 1>about this offense is their inability of them getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. And I think that for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're just not great at putting back to back,

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<v Speaker 1>good place back to back and when they have such

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to go or what. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>is that with the short field advantage that the defense

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<v Speaker 1>was able to give them, the Cowboys were able to

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<v Speaker 1>capitalize on that. And out of those four takeaways, they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to get into the end zone three times

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other one was a vehicle. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing what the Cowboys were able to do there

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<v Speaker 1>offensively and being able to get into this end zone

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<v Speaker 1>was a big thing. Yeah, you know, interestingly enough, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>dive into those a little bit here. We had you

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<v Speaker 1>basically had two different situations. You had the first Dallas possession,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was really interesting because they got to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where they had to punt. They get this

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<v Speaker 1>really great punt and get down to the They down

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<v Speaker 1>it there at the San Francisco one, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>get an illegal formation call that brings it back in

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<v Speaker 1>the gates that and says you gotta punt it again.

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<v Speaker 1>They punt it, they force a fumble and give the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to their offense down at the San Francisco twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second situation, obviously San Francisco second possession,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Tank forces the fumble and Aldon Smith recovers it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to go back to the first one

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<v Speaker 1>because special teams continues in my opinion too. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they are. It's weird because there are weeks when we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck is the special teams doing? But then

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<v Speaker 1>there are other points in games throughout the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>this has been throughout the year a special team just

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<v Speaker 1>makes these really, really great plays. And I will say this, CJ. Goodwin,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, is one of the best special teams

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<v Speaker 1>players I've ever watched on a weekly basis. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there have been other guys probably throughout the league who've

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<v Speaker 1>been that good. But every single game it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>if something good happens for the special teams, CJ. Goodwin

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhere involved. Yeah, and you know, obviously I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's that a moment that mattered. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is that your moment that matter? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely one that I was going to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>you never get a penalty on yourself that actually turns

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<v Speaker 1>into a good thing. But let's let's be as somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>fair to special teams here. When Zeke is out of

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<v Speaker 1>the game and no one knew he was not he

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be out until that morning. Okay, when he's out

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, that affects special teams, and that penalty

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<v Speaker 1>Shaywell Alon and Loua that was him not lined up right. Well,

0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't normally play on that, but when Zeke doesn't play,

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<v Speaker 1>then then Tony Pollard has to start, and Daddle plays

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<v Speaker 1>it more this and then they've moved this guy off

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of LOUI goes here and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know where to line up, and that's the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a constant thing for special teams yeah, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about the trickle effect, but it constantly happens like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bet you there's a lot of this going

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<v Speaker 1>on around the league, little little things here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we need to be somewhat fair with twelve

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the field and stuff like that. That's part

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<v Speaker 1>of this issue with with some of the Special team's errors.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Dave, give me a moment that mattered real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, I mean, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>four of us last week said that we would like

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<v Speaker 1>John Fossil to hang around. And it's stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like the potential. They poppy at times, They've

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<v Speaker 1>been reckless at times, but the potential is there and

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<v Speaker 1>they have you know, Cowboys Special Teams have swung them

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<v Speaker 1>some games this season, and that that perfectly exemplifies it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they need to clean it up in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, but I would like John Fossil to still

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<v Speaker 1>be in charge of it next year. For me, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's the Anthony Brown interception, the second one

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half. If you're talking about like winning

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<v Speaker 1>the game, because you know, the defense forces these takeaways

0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.839
<v Speaker 1>in the first half, the offense actually played pretty great

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<v Speaker 1>on a short field, but they squandered that lead and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a ton of under it. In the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. You know, San Francisco drives to midfield largely

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<v Speaker 1>based on a penalty I believe on Jordan Lewis, the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive pass interference. So I mean they're at midfield. All

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<v Speaker 1>they need is a field goal, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>only need another first down or two to potentially tie

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And who knows what happens. And then Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who people love to dog, not only gets a pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but I you know, I thought made a great play,

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<v Speaker 1>like Donovan Wilson and Anthony Brown both like jumping routes,

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<v Speaker 1>like reading the quarterback, and yeah, I mean it's Nick Mullins,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Aaron Rodgers, but I'll haven't seen a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of Dallas dbs do that in the last decade, um so,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know he returns it and then two plays

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<v Speaker 1>later Tony Pollard kind of seals the thing with with

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<v Speaker 1>that really nice run. But prior to that, the Dallas

0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.280
<v Speaker 1>offense had been pretty miserable, honestly, Like they had that

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<v Speaker 1>one really nice drive in the third quarter that led

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<v Speaker 1>to the Dalton Schultz touchdown, and they were awful the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the half. So without that takeaway, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a ton of confidence that the defense stops him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't have a ton of confidence that the

0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Dallas offense can retake the lead if they give it up. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought Anthony Brown sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of delivered them the game with that, with that

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<v Speaker 1>fourth takeaway. Yeah, it was I think that was the

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<v Speaker 1>That to me typifies the type of complimentary football that

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<v Speaker 1>we saw from this team yesterday. Is you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>were moments when the offense was completely off the rails.

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<v Speaker 1>There were moments when the defense was completely off the

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<v Speaker 1>rail else but there were moments in those moments one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other units would make a play. The offense

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<v Speaker 1>made plays when they needed to, the defense made plays

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<v Speaker 1>when they needed to. Special teams made plays when they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to. So I again, that's what complimentary football is.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have the kind of team with all the

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<v Speaker 1>guys you got out that's just gonna be dominant on

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<v Speaker 1>either side of the ball, offense, defense or special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>What you do have maybe is, or at least what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen yet we saw yesterday in the week before

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<v Speaker 1>is a team where you have units that can, at

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<v Speaker 1>moments in the game make plays. And if you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that enough and compliment one another, then you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the outcome that they ultimately got a night moment

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<v Speaker 1>that matter, if it's my turn, I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and the usually when a quarterback gets the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and he stands in the pocket and then he's

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<v Speaker 1>flushed out to the right. Okay, every security guard, every

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleader on the sideline usually get their hands ready because

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming to you. I mean, they're gonna throw it away.

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<v Speaker 1>And the and the third quarter when Dalton rolled out

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<v Speaker 1>and seven about to throw it away and then he

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<v Speaker 1>just decides to throw it deep to CD. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge play in the game. Forty five yards down there.

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<v Speaker 1>They scored on the very next play, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time they had actually driven the ball for

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown and they had gotten these gifts and they

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<v Speaker 1>scored on it. But this was one where the offense

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<v Speaker 1>really I thought it was it was a huge play,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was. It was a great throw down there

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<v Speaker 1>at the trust of CD. And he just keeps you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps not surprising this, but he just keeps making

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<v Speaker 1>these these great plays. That's not the one that everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna remember, obviously the touchdown, but I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>the one. That's that's what got him drafted where he did,

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<v Speaker 1>just just being able to be aware and get up

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<v Speaker 1>the field, make a great play on the ball, staying bounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He just he had a really nice game yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll throw in this last one before we

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<v Speaker 1>take our first break. It was the first San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>possession of the second half. At the time, Dallas was

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<v Speaker 1>up by three. It was third and one that Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. They get a big stop from Door's Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 1>There for no game that forced San Francisco to take

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal rather than keep their drive alive on

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<v Speaker 1>a third and one. They end up tying it up

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen seventeen. But I think that was a moment that

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<v Speaker 1>really mattered. And you look at Duran's Armstrong. He only

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<v Speaker 1>had two tackles in that game, but they were both

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<v Speaker 1>I think pretty good, pretty good tackles in the moments

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<v Speaker 1>that he got them. I think he is a He

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<v Speaker 1>is a player that it's just an interesting player. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Jerry loves him, and Jerry talks about him a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been other people, all the coach coaches

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<v Speaker 1>on this staff that've talked about him as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>you don't always see him and notice him, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that if you looked rout the year, there

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<v Speaker 1>have been those kinds of moments from a guy like him.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he's your third or fourth defensive end and

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting those kind of plays in just critical moments,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that matters. Well, let's also forget I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're talking about two defensive tackles, but how

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<v Speaker 1>many defensive ends run down on the punt He actually

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<v Speaker 1>forced to fumble on that punt, So that's another tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge play in the game. I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve guys yesterday. I didn't talk to him. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we missed the boat on that one. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>good game. Yeah, you should have had a next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that anybody would have heard it, but I would have.

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<v Speaker 1>That's inside joke. Dave knows so oh no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>made a little I had a little. Me and technology

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<v Speaker 1>aren't really good friends. I know this, Yes, everyone knows this.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a mistake. Cost me about an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I'll deal with it, all right, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take our first break. When we come back, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>jump into some player evaluations. We got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>players that I want to point out and talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Each of these guys will give you their players of

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<v Speaker 1>We are presented by Geico, and we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys big win. They get the win over the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco forty nine ers forty one to thirty three. Probably, well,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly these two games is of two games, probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best two games that they've had this season back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a surprise that they that that happened against

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are probably or should or are actually as

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<v Speaker 1>poor as they are. And I'm actually starting to wonder this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to get you guys opinions. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to think that this is really without all their players,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really a middle of the road team, a

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<v Speaker 1>seven and a nine to nine and seven team. They

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<v Speaker 1>could end up in that seven nine range, it can

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<v Speaker 1>end up six and ten. But the point is that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what they are because what we're seeing right now

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<v Speaker 1>is this they're beating teams that are worse than them.

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<v Speaker 1>It just so happened their schedule was frontloaded with the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that were much better than them. You guys agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that? Disagree with that? I totally agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um well, I mean it's just it's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate any team that doesn't have the quarterback that it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to have. But I mean, you know, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at even when Dak was there. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense was pitiful against the Browns, but like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel awful about lose to the Browns and light

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<v Speaker 1>of the season that they're having. Obviously, the Seahawks are

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<v Speaker 1>perennial playoff contenders, and the Cardinals are a pleasant surprise

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<v Speaker 1>as well, which isn't a huge surprise. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams as well. So I agree that they played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of playoff teams at the start of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I would be fascinated to know how

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<v Speaker 1>much better their record would be if Dak had played

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>all of these games. You know, I think I don't

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 1>think that they would be you know, ten and three

0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, or like you know, nine and four. But

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that they would be much more relevant than

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff conversation. What do you think? Amber? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I don't mean to argue with you, Dave,

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 1>because I do agree with that point, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>ask me, obviously would rather have Dak than Andy Dalton.

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's not like the Cowboys

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 1>have been this team that is dealing with a very

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>inexperienced quarterback in there. You know, they haven't they doubt

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and who is a guy who who is the starter?

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>He is the starter in the NFL, so at least

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in the quarterback topic, even though very different weapons, and

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>they can definitely not do what Deck can do as

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>far as far as like the running game and all

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But just in general, I think that the

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys they could have positioned themselves to be at a

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>better spot had they made conscious choices earlier on in

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the season, but they didn't. So there's so many things

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's definitely out of your control. But then there

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>are so many other things that I still believe, regardless

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of all the injuries, that the Cowboys could have done

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:47.199
<v Speaker 1>better and at least being better. I don't know how

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>many more wins they would have gotten, but at least

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>done something a little bit better than what we've seen

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the season. But I mean, now that's in

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the past. You can't really predict what different things would

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>have had been and how that would have actually changed

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the game. But I do still think that the Cowboys

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>could have positioned themselves at a way better spot right now. Yeah,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll even give you this Amber. If I had to

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 1>choose one player that I could have had healthy this

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>year that wasn't I don't think it would have been Dak.

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I would have preferred to have one of

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>those tackles you give me tiring for the whole year.

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>With Andy Dalton, I don't think they would have been

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>as good as with Dak. I do think they would

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>have still won this division, and I think they would

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>have been a playoff team, and I think they might

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>have won a game in the playoffs. I think with

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>DAK the problem would have still been without protection, it

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>would have been an uphill battle for them. I think

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they could have done a lot of things pretty well.

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>The problem still would have been the defense, obviously, but

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 1>they could have done it a lot of things, a

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of things pretty well. I think if they had

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>one of those tackles, and if that, even if that

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>meant that they didn't have their quarterback, I think if

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Dak is, if that's the only change, if Dak is,

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>to me, if Dak's the quarterback, I think yesterday they

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>would have had Yesterday, they would have won the division yesterday.

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you think if they would have had one

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of the tackles and not Deck. Yeah, now I don't

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with you there. I don't agree with

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you because of the uh, the Falcons game, because of

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland, because of some of those games. I think

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the tyrant did play in the Cleveland game. But I

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>just think that Dak, with that offense, the way they're rolling,

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I think they would have you know, they would have

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>figured out. I mean, and I agree with what day

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Van Amber both said, and I just look at specific

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>games better Core. I mean, Denucci almost had them in

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 1>a win. Dak wins that game against Philly. Carson Wentz

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>was Santa Claus that day, given out gifts, So I

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:38.959
<v Speaker 1>mean I think they win that game. I think they

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>beat the Steelers with Dak. I think they beat one

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>of the Washington games. Give them three wins right now.

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I understand, I amber, you're right, you

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>can't if you do that, change that. Everybody's got a change.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Dak plays all year based off everything else.

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I think this team right now is eight and six,

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and they had hats yesterday. I would in shirts. Pretty

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>much every team that's got a legitimate hope of winning

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl is doing it with great quarterback play.

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>And the ones that aren't, you know, the Saints and

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the and the Colts come to mind, steel maybe the

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins as well. They got a lot of everything else. Yeah,

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they I mean, you know, you gotta either have everything

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>or you gotta have a really good quarterback. I'll take

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the good quarterback every single time. The Cowboys this year

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>have beaten Matt Ryan, Daniel Jones, Kurt Cousins, Brandon Allen,

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Nick Mullins. There's a storyline there. There's a storyline there,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna go to the storyline you're talking about.

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, I didn't say anything. Let's get some players

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>of the game. Let's stow with you. Dave, give me

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a player of the game. I mean, it would be

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>easy to say Ceedee Lamb or Tony Pollard. I wrote

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>stories about those guys yesterday. But how about Donovan Wilson.

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I think they said I've said that already this year,

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>but Donny, you know, I try to I try to

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>like couch my enthusiasm for Donovan Wilson because I think

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>people get carried away. They see a guy make a play, they're,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're already penciling him in for next year.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>And in the back of my mind, I'm like, yeah,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he's he's good, but like he's still a sixth round pick.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, people were really excited about Xavier Woods at

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>one point in his career as well. But every time

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the dude goes out there, he just makes a difference.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>And he's not you know, he's not a perfect player.

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's still got some growing to do in coverage.

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's ever gonna be this like

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>sticky coverage safety. But he makes plays, man, and that's

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>more than a lot of Dallas dbs can say in

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>my time covering the team. So I mean, I gotta

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>give it to him. He should have had two picks

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>yesterday and the one that he did make was very impressive.

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's exciting to think where his career could

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>be going. Yeah, I'm not I'm not talking down this

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>guy anymore from the standpoint of let me wait and see.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>No, no no, no, because because I'll tell you right now,

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>with what he's done in just this year, name a

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>defensive back. I'm not just gonna even say safety. Name

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a defensive back. You can go back as far as

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to. I want to see how far you

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>have to go to get one that's made as many

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>plays as this guy's making. And he's making them and

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>by the way, he was making them in training camp

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen, he was making them in practices like

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>this is not something that's new. This is something we've

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>seen basically since the time I've been watching him. I

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't watch him at A and M a Ton, But

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>ever since he's been with the Dallas Cowboys, he's been

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.959
<v Speaker 1>making plays. I'm not putting it on a curve anymore.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's what he is at this point. He's a playmaking

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>safety in my opinion. All right, Amber, give me a

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>player of the game, all right, to argue, I mean,

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>my player would have to be de Marcus Lawrence. He's

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy that we've talked about all season. Fans have

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>been criticizing him because he wasn't living up to his

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>contract and all these things. And I mean yesterday, you

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>just watch the game and he will make himself known.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And the power that he had, even on plays that

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>wearing like statistically credited to him, he was still making

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>an impact there. And another thing that I think to

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>me stands out in these past few games is the

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>rest of the line. I mean, these guys even when

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the play, let's say the plays happening all the way

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>over there to the far ride and most likely this

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>player won't be able to catch up to there to

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that guy and make a play or anything. Most of

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>these defensive line guys are just they don't give up.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>They don't give up on plays and they go after

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And to me that those are things that are really

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>important and things that don't necessarily have an actual effect

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>on the game, like on the player on stat sheets

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But just to see that kind

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of drive from the line defensive lineman overall in general,

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the kind of energy and will and competitiveniveness come back.

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't even say that word, but you know, the

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>will to compete in there knocking up it's impressive. It's impressive,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:15.719
<v Speaker 1>So DeMarcus laws for sure, but also giving credit to

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the line. You know, I think I

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>want to copyright this. I don't know, and I don't

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>know how you added as something to a cliche to

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the world, but it's not. It's I've said this before,

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not horseshoes and hand grenades. You know, close only counts,

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and horseshoes and hand grenades and pass rush like pass

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>rush should count, Like that counts. Like She's right, DeMarcus

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Lorrens may not get a sack on this play, but

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if the quarterback just throws it into the ground because

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you're scared of goodness, hit again, that counts. You're off

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the field. They punted. You don't get really anything for it,

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but being close in close pressure that counted right there,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>So she's right about that. My player to watch is

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, and Jordan I thought yesterday really made a

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>strong case to say maybe this guy needs to come back.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was his best game since of the

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>season by far. He was blitzing off the edge, he

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>was physical, he was making plays. Yeah, he got a

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>penalty a little bit. I think take it, He'll take it.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's being aggressive. He was, he showed his

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>value and his versatility and all that. He was really

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>really good yesterday, and he's been good actually the last

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>few games. If you think go back to the the Minnesota game.

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>You made some plays at the end. So you know,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>he's just one of those guys that, unfortunately, he just

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't pass the cornerback eye test. He's got to prove

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to the coaches he can play, he can ball. He

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>might have been in his feelings a little bit earlier.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what was going on there early on

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in the year. He's playing well now, and you know,

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, all three of these people, d Law,

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis had slower starts this year for

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever the reason. They're balling out right now. Ye all right,

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take our final break when we come back.

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk about Tony Pollard in his

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>game yesterday and what it means. Nick thinks it means

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>very little about the guy didn't play. Oh yes, right,

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I apologize, okay, jumping in, But I do want to

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>ask these other guys if they think it has something

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to do, or if it does reflect on the guy

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that didn't play, We'll talk about that when we come

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<v Speaker 1>and electrifying in the way I was doing. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>segment of the Break presented by Geico. We got to

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about a couple of players, or a couple of

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>different situations that happened in this game that I think

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>are worthy of conversation. We're gonna start with Tony Pollard.

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>He got a good day yesterday, and I thought, Nick

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you when you came to the press box, we were

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>first person I want in the press box. Oh sorry,

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>When whenever I saw the picture of you in the

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>press box, I wanted to point out the back like

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard, and what he did yesterday was special because

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I knew. I knew you were making the claim I

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have anything to do with Zeke. Don't get me

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>started on seeing you wrote an article about it. Tell

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>me the premise of the article. I just I feel

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like it was about Tony Pollard. This is what they

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>drafted him to be. They wanted him to be this

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy, and if you think about most of

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>his success, pretty much all of it was in space.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>That's what they did with him. I don't think they

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>need to have Zeke in the lineup or out of

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the line up to utilize him that way. They need

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to get these two backs going

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 1>in the game more. Um. I don't think this means, oh,

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>you just replace him because he didn't replace Zeke in

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the things they asked Zeke to do. He was doing

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff on the edges, which is great,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of swing passes. I think he needs to

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>be replacing the third or fourth receiver, maybe as some

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of the tight end something like that, different packages, as

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty packages. As Bucky said last week, I don't think

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he did all the dirty work that Zeke did. But

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>he was great. Let's let's make it about Tony Pollard.

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>He was electrifying. So let me ask you this question.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna flip that a little bit challenge. Do you

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>think it challenge a little bit? Do you think that

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Cowboys as a team maybe shouldn't be doing

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the things that they're asking Zeke to do as much

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>as the things that they're asking Tony Pollard to do.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is you I assume

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is he's not a power runner. He's

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>not a guy's gonna line up and you know you're

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna pound right behind the center and pick up three

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>four yards. Do you think maybe Cowboys should look at

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 1>this and say, I'll give you a good example. Marshall

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Falk made a career of being the type of back

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that Tony Pollard was yesterday. Their offense was built around

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>that type of running back. They got him out in space,

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>They looked for opportunities to get the ball in his

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>hand in space and let him create with it. Should

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys be doing more or of that versus trying

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to pound the ball with Zeke Elliott? I mean I

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's a fair point. I'll tell let Dave

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>answer that too, But I mean, yeah, I think that

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>The way to think about it, though, is Zeke makes

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>fifteen million a year. He's your back. You've made the bed,

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you gotta sleep in it, absolutely, and you

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta go to zeke strengths. But there's ways to get

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>incorporate Pollard in there, Dave, David Hellman in yours. Y'all

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>are kind of choppy right now. Sorry, yeah, did you hear?

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear the question? Did you were talking about?

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>We just want to get your opinion. You repeat it

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm sorry. We're trying to find out what

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts are on Tony Pollard versus Zeke whether and

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>my question to Nick was he said that Pollard wasn't

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>doing the kind of things you asked asked Zeke to do.

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>My question is maybe the Cowboys shouldn't be asking Zeke

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to do those things, or asking anybody to do those things.

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they need to have an offense more geared to

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>what the types of things that they were asking of

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard yesterday versus the things that maybe they're asking

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Zeke to do. What do you think? I mean? I

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>like they have given Zeke those opportunities, have they not?

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Like Zeke has been targeted plenty in the passing game

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>this season, hasn't really done a whole lot. His hands

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>have been questionable. I mean, I don't think Tony Pollard

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>did anything that Zeke could not do yesterday, like he

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, they weren't asking him to run these crazy

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:34.720
<v Speaker 1>routes or or anything like that, like stuff that Zeke's

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not capable. But we have not seen that from Ezekiel Elliott.

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And the argument that I'm hearing, you know, on Twitter

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and just in Cowboyland right now, is like, yeah, you

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>need both of these running backs because Zeke does do

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the dirty work. Zeke gets the four yard gains, and

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Zeke always falls forward and all that stuff. But is

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that really what you're paying a guy fifteen million dollars

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>to do? Because that that doesn't that doesn't work. I mean,

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>that's just not good team building. If you're you know,

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're dirty runner who never breaks explosive plays and

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.919
<v Speaker 1>never has a one hundred and fifty yard all purpose day,

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, sixty receiving yards, seventy rushing yards um. If

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>if all he's doing is falling forward for four yards,

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, anybody can do that. You know, Chris Carson

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>does that for Seattle and they got him in like

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the seventh round. So it's it creates a conundrum because

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I do think Zeke is valuable. You know, I'm not

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to get rid of the guy, but but he's

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>making a lot more than what his role suggests. And

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said, I'm not trying to get

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>rid of Zeke, but I thought Tony Pollard's performance kind

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of emphasized that yesterday. What are you thinking. I'm not

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>sure if the game plan was better suited for Tony

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Pollard's ability or if Pollard just simply executed them better.

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>My thing is that these guys are both on the

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>same team. I mean, you're both on the same team.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>You're playing for the same reasons. I don't think there's

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a need to put them against each other. There's you

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>can utilize them both. I don't think that Poler can

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>do some of the things that ze can do, and obviously,

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 1>based on the things that we've seen, Zeek cannot do

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe not anymore some of the things that polar is

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>being able to do as far as those explosive plays.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think it just comes down to Kellen Moore

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and the way that they decide to utilize both of them,

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Like they have different games, Like these two guys have

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>different abilities, and you can use that to your advantage.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>You can just you just need to find a way

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to distribute the plays better, find ways that you can

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>actually combine them both, use them both at the same time,

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and use that as a threat. So I'm not here

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>to be like, go on oh team or team polar here,

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm here on both team. I'm like both of them.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Just use them both and find the best way to

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>use them. So but but I'm definitely not ready to say, oh, yeah,

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Zeke is not that kind of back anymore, sit him

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>out and give Pollard the ball a lot more. No,

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I just think you need to find a way to

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>use them both. Well. The fact is they absolutely have

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to use them both because Zeke ain't going anywhere, Like

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the contract is not one that you're going to be

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>able to trade. You're not gonna cut him and just

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>assume all that money. And by the way, he still

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>is a good player, Like you need good players so

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna have to have them both. And I

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>think Nikki hit the nail on the head when you

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>said they just got to figure out. And I heard

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you say on the radio this morning when you're doing

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>your hit with one on five out three of the

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>fan that it's kind of baffling that it took Zeke

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 1>being out for them to actually use Pollard in these ways.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Because what we saw yesterday was a very dynamic running

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>back and it doesn't seem like they have figured out

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>how to do that win Zeke's in the lineup, which

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is baffling. They should be able to figure that, especially

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>on there was a play where Rico Daddle was the

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>running back and they had they swung him around, and

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you know that would even be better, you know, if

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you had Zeke in there. So they that's going to

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>be one of those offseason things they really needed to

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>figure out ways to do that use them both. I

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>think I also said this Kamara was the player that

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>they mentioned when when I think Stephen Jones said they

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted him to be like a Kamara when it was,

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the Saints and when he first I

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 1>think they made the Pro Bowl the same year mark

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Ingram made the Pro Bowl for the Saints. Now again

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>it Sean Payton's he's a genius over there, and he's

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>got Drew Brees and all that. But two running backs

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 1>made the Pro Bowl. You know, they only take three,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So there's a way to do it where you have

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>a good runner that's featured. But they also after that

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they moved on from that other back and made Kamara

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 1>their primary back, right, So I mean, if you use

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that argument, is Pollard good enough to do that? And

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately what this does it just illuminates the

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:01.839
<v Speaker 1>reason why maybe you shouldn't in that second contract any

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>running back it is because it's just so plentiful. Right, Yeah,

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about what they did afterwards. You're right,

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>but because if the contract was different, this might be

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.399
<v Speaker 1>different here, but this is the way it is. This

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>is the way the contract is, so figure it out.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 1>There's there's some example so that it can work. You're right.

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If Zeke was in the last year of his contract,

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>should be a different conversation that would be. But he's not,

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and they got to figure it out. Do you think

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>that Zeke's contract, whether explicitly or subconsciously, weighs into that, Like,

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 1>do you think there is an element of, well, this

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>guy commands x amount of the salary cap pie, like

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he needs to be on the field, Like, yeah, we

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 1>don't need you know, we're not equal using a guy

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 1>on a rookie contract verse a guy that's eating up

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen million dollars of our salary cap. I don't know

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that, but it does make me wonder.

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, they should. They should be better at

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>balancing these two players. They haven't been the whole time

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm Tony's been on the team, and it does make

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>me wonder, if you know, resource allocation is part of

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.919
<v Speaker 1>the reason why. And you know, we didn't talk about

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. I thought the offensive line played played

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 1>better yesterday. I mean, I'm curious to see what people

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that really study and know what they're looking for and

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>all that. What Terrence Steel's great to have been here lately,

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he seems like he's playing a little bit better. I

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>actually think the narrative may have flipped a little bit.

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I actually think Brandon Knight is one I see with

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>more bust now than Terrence Steel. Just I'll point to

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>there's this one play particularly where I think they would

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>have had a touchdown. It was a I want to

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>say it was the second third down, but anyway, the

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Dalton was backing up, he was was about to throw

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>to Cede Land in the middle, and Cede was I mean,

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>he had nothing but green grass in front of him

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and he knew it and so did Andy. But basically

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Knight and it was basically less side of line

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.919
<v Speaker 1>you had Looney, you had Connor, and you had Brandon Knight,

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and they all three just kind of completely whipped on this.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>On this twist at the San Francisco defensive front, Rand

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and nobody picked up the guy loop to the inside

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and he just basically blew up the play and and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Brandon Ni kind of doesn't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, Connor kind of stuck with this guy getting

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<v Speaker 1>recognize what's going on. Looney's over kind I'm messing helping

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<v Speaker 1>up on the right side. So I just think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen more plays over the last two weeks where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is Brandon doing here? I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really noticed Herren still very much at all of these

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks, And to me, that's an improvement because

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<v Speaker 1>we were noticing him a lot earlier in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my point I was going to say is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's an athletic line a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 1>they are a power line, or a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>they are as a power line. With with Lion's got's power,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrant's got some power, Zach Martin, you know they can run.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this the line is better suited to have

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke in there than it is you know the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is right now. But but I'd say this that

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<v Speaker 1>NFC westlet next year, Oh my god. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine is are gonna be back because they have

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<v Speaker 1>good coaching staff. They're gonna be back. Seattle is Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna rams Cardinals Division. Yeah, I think there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be better. But man's that might be the best in

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<v Speaker 1>football right there. All right, we'll appreciate you guys join us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into some other topics.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some things we didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>get into, like Noah Brown and the wide receivers. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of that stuff tomorrow. Till then, for

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Elton.

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