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Speaker 1: season plus a little bit of nineties player nostalgia as

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Speaker 1: we'd like to do in this summer this year with

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Speaker 1: the Volumes very own Jason Timp on today's episode, I'm Miles.

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Speaker 3: Grant and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Miles and

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Speaker 3: Jack mans.

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Speaker 2: Got it. Look at the Hicks ten o K.

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Speaker 1: There you go, m B driving Spinny Fatter number eighteen

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Speaker 1: that's been secured. The Celtics are NBA champions over the

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Speaker 1: double TA be honest, Welcome, Welcome, Jason Timp of the

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Speaker 1: Volume look providing a lot of great analysis on Twitter

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Speaker 1: now working longside and for Colin Coward at the Volume Jason,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, Man, welcome to

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Speaker 4: Of course man, thanks for having me on. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the Team USA stuff. The one downside

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Speaker 4: is is like I look up and it's August twenty yeah,

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, I like, I'm gonna be enjoying these

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Speaker 6: That'll be what do you think he's gonna go with?

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Speaker 3: Before that it was just like kind of long yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, and yeah yeah, but like a little

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Speaker 1: Angel hair Millies, Angel Hair Millies. Jason, I got to say,

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Speaker 2: Of people on this show, but you know on your Twitter.

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Speaker 3: We're just going to tell you that up front show

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the one thing is, you know a lot

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Speaker 3: Bringing people onto this show who have men and thus

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The only people we will allow our NBA legends because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like hitting a free throw and going like,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I am worried about the if the

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Speaker 3: At MGM they are currently let's see one, two, three,

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Speaker 4: Let me let me ask you this, Miles, who is

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Speaker 4: Lebron and Ady.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man.

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Speaker 6: It was like a conspiracy. Wait, let's just call it

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Speaker 3: It was a conspiracy to get in the head of

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Speaker 3: So from a team that's not being actually disrespected other

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Speaker 1: Was dreading it the whole year, That's how much I

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Speaker 3: Not bought except for everybody who's not Jason.

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Speaker 4: Is that they just didn't have to play it like

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Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, they did, all right. I will say we

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Speaker 4: All Right.

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Speaker 3: So the the thing that I'm surprised by is people

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Speaker 3: don't know, like I think, Yeah, they definitely made some

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Speaker 3: On a bunch of odds the MGM site. So what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I still have Denver as the top team

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Speaker 4: It would have been a game seven back in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 4: So like they were this close to the conference finals.

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Speaker 4: And then there was one other issue, which is they

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Speaker 4: I just can't put him over that Denver team. Yet.

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Speaker 4: I still think they're just a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: safer bet. God, Dan, you just brought back how close

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Speaker 4: we were. I bet Okay in the off season at

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Speaker 4: every single one of those things you just mentioned last

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Speaker 1: Bring it up again, man, Hey, can I transfer the

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Speaker 1: cigaret for this season.

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Speaker 2: To do that?

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Speaker 6: No you thought it was for this? No?

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Speaker 6: Oh come on.

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Speaker 4: In the odds right now? Are they?

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Speaker 4: They second by in Boston?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the plus seven fifty at MGM, which is wild.

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Speaker 6: It's just a lot of it seems like a lot

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Speaker 3: A lot of people like have read two articles in

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Speaker 4: It's the scary thing is what is jub going to

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Speaker 4: He's kind of a big city type, and so there

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Speaker 4: comes down to j dub and just how quickly he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be moving to like Dallas or you know,

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Speaker 6: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what all right, you sound like somebody who knows

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Speaker 3: stuff about basketball. How do you feel about my Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: They're going to be a really interesting team to see,

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Speaker 4: like how many of those kind of role players that

442
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Speaker 4: you threw together are you going to be able to

443
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Speaker 4: turn into useful rotation pieces and that that's just gonna

444
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Speaker 4: be something we got to figure out. I thought, uh uh,

445
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Speaker 4: the Yabuseli signing was interesting because he kind of fits

446
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Speaker 4: the build of like that modern His archetype has become

447
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 4: sneakily like one of the most valuable archetypes in the league,

448
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: which is like the big, strong four that can be

449
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Speaker 4: useful offensively, but that can like guard the other teams

450
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Speaker 4: big so that you can use your center as a roamer.

451
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Speaker 4: This was the big thing that Boston did, if you guys,

452
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Speaker 4: remember by putting they just put their They put Tatum

453
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Speaker 4: on the center every single time. Because Tatum could box

454
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Speaker 4: out centers and he couldn't be bullied on the block.

455
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Speaker 4: That allowed them to just use chrisps Porzingis or or

456
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Speaker 4: Al Horford to always guard the weakest above the break

457
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Speaker 4: shooter on the other team, and then they could try

458
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Speaker 4: to funnel things towards you know. That's how they beat Dallas, right,

459
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Speaker 4: And so that's the thing is like I don't think

460
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Speaker 4: Kelly Ubre is big and strong enough to guard centers,

461
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Speaker 4: but I think where Sean is. And so that's kind

462
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Speaker 4: of an interesting kind of look where you don't have to.

463
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Speaker 4: You don't need him to be super vertically athletic. You

464
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Speaker 4: just need him to box out centers and not get

465
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Speaker 4: bullied on the block. And now you can use em

466
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Speaker 4: beat as more of a roamer, and I think that

467
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Speaker 4: could be a really useful look for them defensively.

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Speaker 3: For listeners who don't know, Yabuseli is the guy you

469
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Speaker 3: googled in the middle of the USA France game who

470
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Speaker 3: is like just yoking on people and having an incredible game.

471
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Speaker 3: And so when you googled him, you found out that

472
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Speaker 3: he was like the number sixteen pick with the Celtics

473
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Speaker 3: a number of years ago and like just kind of

474
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Speaker 3: sat bench for them. But yeah, I mean the reason

475
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Speaker 3: we were all googling him was because he he looks

476
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Speaker 3: like he he can do it, at least play some

477
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Speaker 3: some big minutes. So yeah, that's exciting. That's the thing

478
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Speaker 3: you're getting me, not crazily like I'm always surprised. I'm

479
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 3: always pleasantly surprised by like when he does good stuff

480
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Speaker 3: because I just like don't believe in him. But he did,

481
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: like play some good minutes last year. I just but

482
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Speaker 3: I really like the Yabooselli signing, Like I like the

483
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Speaker 3: guy that got from the heat, you know, like I

484
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Speaker 3: just yeah, Kale Martin, Like I like those guys. And

485
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Speaker 3: then obviously the Paul George thing is exciting. If he

486
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Speaker 3: can stay healthy, it's.

487
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Speaker 4: An interesting look. Yeah, but Maxie Martin, because Martin then

488
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: becomes your athlete guard that guards the other team's best guard. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 4: that Maxie Martin, Paul George, Ubre Embiid is really fast,

490
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Speaker 4: believe it or not, which I think is important because

491
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Speaker 4: Embiid is slow and he struggles and transition in up

492
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Speaker 4: and down game. So surrounding him with a lot of

493
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Speaker 4: speed and athleticism I think is really smart.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll be interesting.

495
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Speaker 3: I was, yeah, as I was talking about in the Olympics,

496
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Speaker 3: just watching him be slow to the ball, slow to

497
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Speaker 3: defensive rebounds, I was having flashbacks and.

498
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Speaker 6: I don't know right now.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Jason, Uh, that's that's the thing

500
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Speaker 3: that you could have said seventy percent of his career unfortunately.

501
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping, I'm hoping this is the year you

502
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Speaker 3: know that we like managed to you know, he's he's

503
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Speaker 3: in shape when he needs to be, he's healthy when

504
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Speaker 3: he needs to be.

505
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Speaker 6: And yeah, and then we're in business.

506
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Speaker 3: We are our number three on MGM's list of second round. Baby,

507
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: that's all I want. Just get me out of the

508
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 3: second richest. Yeah, just me out of the second.

509
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Speaker 4: The Drummond pickup was huge too, because, like, you know,

510
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 4: Maury's gonna basically tell Nick Nurse like mbads capped at

511
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 4: fifty games or something like that. Yeah, and yeah, they're

512
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 4: gonna be like, no back to backs, no more than

513
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Speaker 4: three games in a week, Like you know, they're going

514
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Speaker 4: to be holding him down. And so Andre Drummond was

515
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Speaker 4: like sneaky and awesome pickup because he's one of my

516
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Speaker 4: favorite I've ever had. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, because

517
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Speaker 4: that's right, he was there a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: Back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was all right, we should take a break.

520
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Speaker 3: This went long, and we do have some nineties players

521
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Speaker 3: to talk about, so we'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 6: And we're back.

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Speaker 2: We are back.

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Speaker 3: We're back, and we are back in nineteen nineties. What

525
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Speaker 3: the nineties, What a time to be alive. We the

526
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Speaker 3: Democratic National Convention last night. We got to got a

527
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Speaker 3: reminder when they played the Bulls intro music of Her

528
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Speaker 3: gives people.

529
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised the lasers didn't come out too, I know,

530
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Speaker 1: but yeah, we've been talking about our favorite nineties players

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Speaker 1: with our guests. We've had a list that we show everybody.

532
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Speaker 1: Everybody picks a couple of names they want to talk about. Jason,

533
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Speaker 1: you picked Alan Iverson, the Dream and the Worm, uh,

534
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: and these are I'm I'm very excited to talk about

535
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Speaker 1: these three players.

536
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Speaker 2: And I don't know who who do we Who do

537
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Speaker 2: we want to start with?

538
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Speaker 1: I mean we've been we were just talking about the

539
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Speaker 1: same so maybe we just continue that by talking about

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Speaker 1: Alan Iverson. Yeah, I mean, I guess Jason set us

541
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Speaker 1: up here. We'll tell us why when you say I

542
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Speaker 1: want to If we're gonna talk about nineties players, these

543
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Speaker 1: are three people that picked.

544
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Speaker 2: Why do you want to talk about Alan Iverson?

545
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Speaker 4: Well, I think Allen Iverson falls into this group kind

546
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: of with Kobe to Tracy McGrady a little bit as well,

547
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: where like the new generation of basketball fans vastly under

548
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Speaker 4: rates because of some statistical anomalies compared to some of

549
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Speaker 4: the skill guards you see today, and I think that

550
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Speaker 4: it's a gross misunderstanding of just how different the game

551
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Speaker 4: was back then. I mean, like to put it simply,

552
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: every team was basically running two big lineups all the time.

553
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Speaker 4: The power forward was basically just a six ' nine,

554
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Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty pound gigantic human being who functioned

555
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Speaker 4: like a big There was just very little space to

556
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Speaker 4: get all the way to the.

557
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Speaker 3: Basket, and so you actually lead Donnis Haslumsnas has Live.

558
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It was like, Okay, you're playing the Lakers.

559
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: It's like you're playing two bigs tonight. You know what

560
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: I mean, You're you're you're playing the Calves. Here comes

561
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: Drew Good and then Zydrona Sougawskaz. You know, it's just

562
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Speaker 4: always like a two big type of look. And so

563
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: you actually needed guards to eat up usage and to

564
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Speaker 4: take a lot of really tough shots. And so, like

565
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Speaker 4: I'm of the opinion that a guy like Alan Iverson

566
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Speaker 4: in particular, especially with the way that those sixers teams

567
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Speaker 4: were constructed basically around defensive personnel. Like if you took

568
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Speaker 4: Alan Iverson circa two thousand and two, two thousand and one,

569
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Speaker 4: and you have dropped him in the Dallas Maverick system,

570
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Speaker 4: in the Kyrie Irving role or in the Luka doncrich roll,

571
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Speaker 4: like I think he would have been a sixty percent

572
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Speaker 4: true shooting type of guy, and it's just it's just

573
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Speaker 4: the reality of the way the game is. And so

574
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Speaker 4: I think, like a lot of times, like he gets

575
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Speaker 4: kind of miscast now is like this bad you know,

576
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Speaker 4: bad teammate, a guy who was inefficient and just a

577
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Speaker 4: shot chucker, and it's just really unfortunate and like to me, like,

578
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Speaker 4: I'm I'm only thirty three. So like, even as we

579
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Speaker 4: get into some of these guys from the nine, these

580
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Speaker 4: I don't have as much like live experience watching them

581
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Speaker 4: from when I was a kid. But like for my

582
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Speaker 4: generation of Hoopers, Alan Iverson was one of the most

583
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Speaker 4: influential guys, and so many of the guards that I

584
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: play with picked parts of his game and tried to

585
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: replicate it. And I just I wish he was remembered

586
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 4: more fondly. Let's just put it that way.

587
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think for people that remember, he's

588
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: remembered fondly. And I think if you're kind of piecing

589
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Speaker 1: together what like a memory of Alan Iverson based on

590
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: like clips you're seeing or articles you're reading, like after

591
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Speaker 1: the fact, that I can see how some people are like, well,

592
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Speaker 1: this guy seem like I'm a bit of a like

593
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Speaker 1: that selfish guy. But I but I just remember someone

594
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: who was so aggressive, uh and just you couldn't believe it.

595
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: For like his height, You're like, there's no this is

596
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: like six feet and he he is not afraid of anything.

597
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I thought that that was captivating for me as a

598
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: kid because I remember seeing him at Georgetown and.

599
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Those man those uniforms. I still think about those.

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Speaker 6: Great forms that I really I went to Georgetown largely.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to ask you.

602
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: I was like, did shorts were dope?

603
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Speaker 6: They were so dope? Yeah, this show was just like

604
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 6: a cool school because of those John Thompson. Yeah.

605
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Speaker 1: But I mean I just remember, you know, even in

606
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Speaker 1: the two thousand and one finals too, just uh watching

607
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: him and being like it was like one of those

608
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: moments where it was easy for me to be dismissive

609
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: of the opposing team because I was such a Laker fan.

610
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: But party is also like, man, I love Alan Iverson

611
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Speaker 1: even though he's prevented us from going fully sixteen, And

612
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Speaker 1: oh I.

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Speaker 6: Just watched him. Uh.

614
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Speaker 3: I just watched like some highlights of him, and it

615
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: reminds me of It's like Jaw when he's got someone

616
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: on skates or like when he you just he's just

617
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: like at his most unstoppable, but like with a great

618
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: mid range game before mid range jumpers were outlawed by

619
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Speaker 3: a basketball analytics and but just the most dramatic crossovers

620
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Speaker 3: and just like he would do things to defenders where

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Speaker 3: you'd like see their body just like give up on

622
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: the court just with their crossover. Antonio Daniels, Yeah, there

623
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Speaker 3: was was that on the Lakers. No, no, no doubt

624
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: he did something to a Lakers garden again the death.

625
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: And he stepped over.

626
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Speaker 6: No, no, it wasn't the time. It wasn't the tie

627
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Speaker 6: low one.

628
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: This one was he crossed somebody up and their body

629
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Speaker 3: just like kept going like four steps backwards and then

630
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Speaker 3: they just fell over.

631
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Speaker 6: It's like it's in the middle.

632
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Speaker 3: It's like five minutes in this highlight reel that we'll

633
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: link off too in the show notes. But it's, uh, yeah,

634
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: he was just like even what he did to Jordan

635
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Speaker 3: as a rookie, like where Jordan's like moving his body

636
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: back and forth and he just looks like me out there,

637
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: like Jordan just looked three steps too slow.

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Speaker 1: I like it. After though, when he like people asked

639
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan about that and he's STI playing. He's like, yeah, man,

640
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not gonna, you know, be out here

641
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: and say this guy doesn't have it. He's like, because

642
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm more trying to deny those opportunities for someone

643
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: to do that. He's like, but you know, he'll learn

644
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: how to play bas ball, like he'd had to sun

645
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: him in the same thing.

646
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Speaker 2: You know, he will learn how to play basketball. You're like, okay,

647
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Speaker 2: I'm kids a lot of potential.

648
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he learned how to play the game at

649
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Speaker 1: a higher.

650
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Level, you know, he's really relying on physical ability at

651
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Speaker 2: the moment. And you're like, that is true. But also

652
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Speaker 2: I get it.

653
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: Michael Well, his big sweeping crossover like that was like

654
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: it was just whatever whatevery kid did when they went

655
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: I mean, heck, it influenced players too. I mean Kobe's

656
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: crossover when he was young looked just like AI. It's

657
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: like big sweeping out to the side. Yeah, crazy length.

658
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, broke my game, but it was worth it because

659
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: the amount of times they called me for a carryover.

660
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: They're like, I'm sorry, kid, what are you doing.

661
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're you're holding the ball up like this

662
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, your hands aren't making enough.

663
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 6: Sorry, all right, let's talk the dream.

664
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: Uh really, I don't know, thirty years after his prime,

665
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: even with all the advancements and overall, you know, the

666
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: progressive nature of the game, there aren't that many big

667
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: men as fluid as he was there. I feel like

668
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: he you could put him at any point in time

669
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: and he would be dominant right like he is there

670
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: anyone whose game is like more of a just like Surefire.

671
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: Put him in and he's a top five player right now.

672
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: I feel like he's right there, right yeah for sure.

673
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: Well absolutely because he was because he was so good

674
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: defensively too, yeah, which I think people forget, but like

675
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: he would like it's so funny when people compare and

676
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: be to him, because I do see some of it

677
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: in the sense where it's just this massive human that's

678
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: doing some guard stuff really, but the big difference is

679
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: like a King was in really good shape, so like

680
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: he had this like really quick quick feet. Like it's

681
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: so funny because people think of him as this is

682
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 4: this high level post player, which he obviously was, but

683
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: he also was like just a really good mid range

684
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: pull up jump shooter, so like he would face up

685
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: and like do a jab step and like hard move

686
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: to the left and shooter like he would rip through

687
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: the right and do a wonderable pull up like he

688
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: was a two guard and he had the right shoulder

689
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: fade he had would hook over his left shoulder. But

690
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: he had all these like mid range jump shots that

691
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: looked a lot like the two guards of the time.

692
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: And so he was.

693
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: He was this like Anthony Davis level mobile super lanth

694
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: defender who was blocking a ton of shots mixed with

695
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: like the one of the best face up games in

696
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: the league at the time. Watching him, I don't think people,

697
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: I think I think the the the Joel Embiid comparisons

698
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: are borderline offensive when you compare the difference in just

699
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: his mentality and how how seriously he took his his

700
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: body and his health and just his it. Just he's

701
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: just at another level in my opinion.

702
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, two times deepoy, two times Finals MVP, which I

703
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: don't think Embiid has won either of those.

704
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't think.

705
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: I don't think we have a finals MVP.

706
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: Three times black champ uh just but like again, just

707
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: a beautiful person to watch play basketball.

708
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, And I get those like the Jokic

709
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: comparisons to Like to a certain extent. And I think

710
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: there's also the interesting part with like team too, is

711
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: just he also has like a soccer background too. He's

712
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: like one of those like bigs who has the soccer

713
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: background who's just just because of that is looking at

714
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: bald distribution a little bit differently, like yeah, how or

715
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: like a lot of the guys who are coming from

716
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Europe and stuff like that. But the other part that

717
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: I think I remember as a kid always thinking he

718
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: was boring to watch because it wasn't like as flashy.

719
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: And then as I got older and was like, yeah,

720
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: the foot like and you actually begin to understand footwork

721
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: and appreciate it that and you're like, yeah, that's that.

722
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: That should be impossible, Like your knees should be done

723
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: if you're that big moving like normal, No, not at all.

724
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: And then once he's like then I started like hearing

725
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: more stories about just how like aggressive he really was,

726
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Like like you just duff people out, like on the

727
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: court in an arrow when like the fine was like

728
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: thirty bucks for hitting a guy and he's like, yeah, yeah, okay,

729
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I'll do that.

730
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: Watch this full one.

731
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: You can't have your locker room six pack, right.

732
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: Buddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's like, well, you have to

733
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: get through me.

734
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 4: The nastiness is such an underrated basketball try. We're like

735
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: looking at players and like, it's so funny how when

736
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: we look at the guys that disappoint us, it's almost

737
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: always they don't have that nastiness. Yeah, right, like that

738
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 4: that the like desire to just not just win, but

739
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: to embarrass you in the process. Like that, it's almost

740
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: like a mean streak.

741
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a personality defect that works perfectly for competitive sports.

742
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 6: People will be like, oh my god, you guys Wenby

743
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 6: is a jerk. Yes, yeah, he's mean. That's great, dude.

744
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: He took a little baby's lollipop. No, yes, okay, his shoulders.

745
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: Are getting for autograph and he told him to screw off.

746
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not Victor.

747
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 6: Wow.

748
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: Wow, what else could it be?

749
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, I again, I think but one of those

750
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: people too. I think for a lot of younger fans

751
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: just do not really talk about much. I think like

752
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of older heads obviously do and though they

753
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: hear it, because a lot of the older players are

754
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: still always like people need to remember how good a

755
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: cheme Elijawan was, But yeah, for the U just.

756
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: I think the one place then the comparison makes sense

757
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: to me is just that we got to see their

758
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: games like develop into people with like beautiful touch and footwork,

759
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: like from when they first got to college they were

760
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 3: so raw and like just completely different players. And then yeah,

761
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: so like that's that's the one place where it makes sense.

762
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: But in terms of like the game, that like the

763
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: scope and greatness of the game, I think you're right.

764
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: It's I think it's realistic. I think you're right. I

765
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: think I think if you had to compare and be

766
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 4: to one single center in NBA history, it makes sense

767
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 4: that it would be a game. It's just you can't

768
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: you can't say he's like him.

769
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: He just has some similarities, you know, right, Yeah, it's like,

770
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: well that rectangle looks like a square.

771
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: Technically they are parallelograms, so we will we'll take that.

772
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: And a lot of those throw a lot of those

773
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: Queen comparisons were thrown out early on when he was

774
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: in better shape and he was more healthy. I shouldn't

775
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: say more healthy because he was injured right away, but

776
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: when we were not we were it looked like do

777
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: you remember that first year, the first year and a

778
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: half when he started playing where it was.

779
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: Like holy twenty ones or so. Yeah yeah, and like there.

780
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: Was definitely that phase there where it was like maybe

781
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: this is what he could be, you know, but it

782
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 4: just pretty quickly turned into something else.

783
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, and then Rodman, this was my favorite part

784
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: of the Last Dance, which was one of my favorite

785
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: basketball experiences of yeah, the past ten years, was when

786
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: we got to we needed something, the Last Dance came

787
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: through and watching Rodman like getting to see his process,

788
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: how much he studied, Like just I didn't studied a

789
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: thing that I didn't really know you could study, but

790
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: like where you know, knew where everybody was gonna miss too,

791
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: was there before the ball got there.

792
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: When he's talking about he's.

793
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: Like it'll go ping and then go that way. Yeah,

794
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: this one and then it will be this one. I'm like, oh,

795
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't what what kind of omitry do you call him?

796
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like watching a different game than like

797
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: when he's watching a game, he like gets excited about

798
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: the misses because he's like, yo, yeah, yeah.

799
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: That that clip got some real meme mileage around the

800
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: I remember I mind you COVID, so the bar was

801
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: a little lower.

802
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we we were just like anything.

803
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: Fine, let's give Judd Buschler his own podcast based on

804
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: at this moment.

805
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: Uh, but yeah, Robmin, what great pick.

806
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: I don't like, there's not really a comparison, Like there's

807
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: been people who are like kind of close to the

808
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: rebounding totals.

809
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 4: But what Yeah, we'll just talk about why why.

810
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 6: Did you pick Robmin?

811
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: Well, he's kind of the opposite of a Keem in

812
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 4: the sense that, like, I don't think he has the

813
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: same level of like translatability from ara to era in

814
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: some ways, although it's it's it's always hard to tell

815
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: because you wonder about a guy like Rodman if he

816
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 4: was raised in this era, if his skill development would

817
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: have look different and he would have been a better

818
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: I always got to be careful with that. It's like

819
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: I always hate when younger people say like, oh, MJ

820
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: couldn't shoot threes, and it's like I have a feeling

821
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: if he came up now, he would have been a

822
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 4: very good three point later Like you like that, Like

823
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 4: he just wouldn't allow that to not be the case,

824
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 4: you know. Uh, But like I think it's you know,

825
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: we talked about the two big kind of look that

826
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: most teams had. You know, it was just something you

827
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: could get away with back then, having a player with

828
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: some more offensive limitations. But uh, you know, I think

829
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: anybody who's ever played basketball at any level knows that

830
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: the when it comes down to winning in real high

831
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 4: stakes environments, there's just it mostly comes down to dirty work,

832
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: and you got to have people who are willing to

833
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 4: do that sort of thing. And and you know, he's

834
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: just been a part of a lot of winning teams

835
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: within that context.

836
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, like the thing that's also I

837
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: remember one of my first book reports or like middle

838
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: school book reports. I did that as bad as I

839
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: want to be his like biography that came out in

840
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: the nineties. They're like what, and I'm like, yeah, I

841
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: want to write about this. This is the one I'm

842
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: talking about.

843
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 6: Literature in college, right. Yeah.

844
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: The reason he wore the wedding dress was to actually

845
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: symbolize the a malleability of our idea of what masculinity

846
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: is or is not. But like with Rodman, like the

847
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: thing that was so unbelievable is like you'd hear it's

848
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: like he'd play a game and then like lift weights

849
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: for like two hours after the game and then stay

850
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: up till five in the morning partying, and then you know,

851
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: show up on game day and then give you twenty

852
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: rebounds and like rinse and repeat. And I think that's

853
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: like a really wild part about is like you realize

854
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: just how much of a physical specimen you have to

855
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: be to have that kind of schedule and take that

856
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: just I pardon me, is like, God, imagine if you

857
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: went to bed at night or whatever, but then parton

858
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you ever.

859
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 4: Needed this easy if he slept, yeah.

860
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: But even then without it all, like so many players

861
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: stories about him were just like I can't believe how

862
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: this guy I was living and then the performances he

863
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: put in or like I think who was it Dirk

864
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: was talking about when he played on the Mavericks. He

865
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: was like did this guy didn't even know anything like

866
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: any of the schemes we were running at all. Like

867
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: he would take a shower like right before like apparently

868
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: did this before every game, forty five minutes before the game,

869
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: cold shower, miss all the meetings and then just get

870
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: out there and be like all right, I'm just gonna

871
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: do my thing and still like perform at that level

872
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: and you're like how how Yeah.

873
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: There are a few times in NBA history where the

874
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: numbers just don't make sense. Like you look back at

875
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: like Wilt when he was like in the early early

876
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: phase of the NBA, the scoring numbers and the rebound

877
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: numbers he put up, and there've been just a handful

878
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 4: of other examples of that, and like Rodman's rebounding numbers

879
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: in the nineties are like that. You look at him

880
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: and you're like what, like how yeah, Like how in

881
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: the world did he do this? It wasn't just leading

882
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: the league seven years in a row. He was hitting

883
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: just preposterous numbers. And then I think we're actually going

884
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 4: to see this with Wemby now with the blocks and

885
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: steals like this, dude's just going to perennially be at

886
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: like five or six stocks per game. And I think

887
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: we're going to look back at and be history and

888
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: be remember, like be like remember Wemby in the mid

889
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenties like that, Like I think I think that

890
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: was what Rodman was in the nineties, where just as

891
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: a complete like outlier in terms of statistical performance.

892
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: Eighteen eighteen seventeen seventeen fifteen, sixteen fifteen, that those were

893
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: his average rebounds from ninety one through his third championship

894
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: season fourteen point nine.

895
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, what it's a year, but ye under fifteen a game.

896
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: He's like, I wasn't going to the casino enough that year.

897
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: That was the problem.

898
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: And then I got it together and then we won

899
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: another two championships.

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00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 6: The stories of Ivor said, I'm Robman, like just rolling

901
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 6: in from being out the night before, like right before

902
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 6: the game, and uh and just putting, you know, giving

903
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 6: the other team fifties.

904
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I mean, if either of you

905
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: guys ever played eighteen holes and then gone to play pickup, no, no, no, dude.

906
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: So I did that for the first time. It would

907
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: have been it was about a month and a half

908
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: ago now important context. It was in Arizona in July,

909
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: so it's a little but I went to play and

910
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I'm dying out here.

911
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: And all I could think, I think is like, how

912
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: is it that Jordan was playing thirty six holes and

913
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 4: then going and then going to play that night, Because

914
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: like golf is like it, it actually does take it

915
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: out of you more than you'd think you know, well

916
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: you're just like walking around.

917
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then there's also that famous story about him going

918
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: out and like, you know, having a bunch of beers

919
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: on the golf course and then going out and putting

920
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: up forty Yeah. Right, I have had a beer and

921
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: then like tried to run, like go for a run,

922
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, why am I running through concrete?

923
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 2: Like my sides are ripping?

924
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just built different. Yeah, all right, should

925
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: we take a break and come back? Ye, rabid fire.

926
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're back and we're back.

927
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh, Jason, it's been a really fun conversation up until

928
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: this point because you are now in the hot seat.

929
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: This is the rapid fire round of budding.

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00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: These are the fastest question and answer segments that we

931
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: have ever done in the history of podcasting ever. Okay,

932
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask a question. You just answer it quick,

933
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: don't think too hard. Just give us the instant reaction.

934
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: And if you take too long and threaten our title

935
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: as fastest question and answer segment in podcasting.

936
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: History, we will be very rude.

937
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: Okay, just don't make me look like a full in

938
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: front of the NBA, Jason, don't we promise them? We said,

939
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: the show is going to be mediocre, but the fastest, say,

940
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: the rapid fire segment is going to be.

941
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: So fastest you've ever seen. No, trust me, we will

942
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: be able to dunk on everybody we have on the show.

943
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: Just so you know.

944
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: And your threat, it's a big you are.

945
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 6: Different angles.

946
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't like you.

947
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: We don't like it, but it's back. Get the confidence back.

948
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: Here we go, Jason, are you ready? Yeah, let's do

949
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: it all right? Then here we go, Brian start the

950
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: clock right, Yeah, yeah, I'm just nervous, man. I was

951
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: just I was just rewatching the video and Jason's Twitter.

952
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: Filelight real clean you wake off to the highlight reel

953
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: and the footnote the show.

954
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: Wow wow wow? Uh here here, here we go. Uh

955
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: you should we do one?

956
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: Should we do one?

957
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean sorry, I'm nervous again. I just I was

958
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: looking at another replay him.

959
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 6: Why why don't we kick it off here?

960
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: Uh?

961
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 4: You want to go?

962
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go. Okay, this is the fastest question and

963
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: answer segment. Just so you know, Jason, this isn't us

964
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: being rusty.

965
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: This is a little bit of this is how we

966
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: fake them out, you know what I mean a little

967
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: bit of fake.

968
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: Is this like when you're on the polygraphere they ask

969
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: you all the boring questions first, Rea right.

970
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: And just like a polygraph, this is also pseudo scientific.

971
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: Here's the first question, Jason, this is from our discord.

972
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Is there a current comp for pre injury Grant Hill?

973
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: I don't think so that that, like super springy two

974
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: guard pull up shooter hadn't really been I mean, it

975
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: is the closest thing we've had to but most of

976
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: the two guards we've had are like the Booker and

977
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: Hardin types, which are a little bit less athletic, a

978
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: little more skill based.

979
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 6: Mm hmmmmmm. Okay, okay, that's correct.

980
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: That is correct. That is correct.

981
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 6: You got that one. I know you said, no way

982
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 6: he gets this one.

983
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: But he got it.

984
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: He nailed it.

985
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: I'm nervous now.

986
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 6: It is currently NBA Dunk Week.

987
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: So what's your all time favorite in game dunk and

988
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: your four dunkers in your all time fantasy dunk contests?

989
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 6: Dunk say dunking?

990
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 4: There you go, and and admittedly biased, but the Lebron

991
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: dunk over use of Nurkic every time I see the highlight,

992
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: I still don't know how he did it. His body

993
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: was moving kind of like away from the rim, and

994
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 4: he took off from like the third hash outside the

995
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: block and was like this and just that was absurd.

996
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: Vince Carter's always number one for me all time that

997
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 4: Strow Miles Swift video. Every single time it comes around.

998
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 6: I just have to watch it.

999
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: That's like one of my rules. I have a handful

1000
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: of rules as a human. You always watch the Strow

1001
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: Miles Swift video when it comes around. I'll go with,

1002
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: let's see so Carter lebron Stromile' if I have to

1003
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: give you a fourth, I'll go with I'll go with

1004
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: t Mac Yeah, yeah, tex Is getting got to you.

1005
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: Got to, you got to now.

1006
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: I guess this is something since we've been talking about

1007
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: in the nineties and how younger fans kind of put

1008
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: or just people who maybe not were as not engaged

1009
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: with basketball back then, have some misconceptions about the game.

1010
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: What is one of the biggest misconceptions that people have

1011
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: about the way the game was played in the eighties

1012
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: or nineties and the impact that it's had today.

1013
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: I think that the idea that that defenses are getting

1014
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: worse is a major misconception. I think like people forget that.

1015
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: Like the offense, the offense is always improving as we

1016
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 4: get better at schemes and understanding how to generate better

1017
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: shots for people, but also just the skill level of

1018
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: players is increasing. But at the same time, like it's

1019
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: not like the league isn't also trying to solve that.

1020
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: On the defensive end, it's like we're seeing it now,

1021
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: a team's trying to take away the three in the

1022
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: rim and in different pick and roll coverages that are

1023
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: designed to get the ball out of the primary ball

1024
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: handler's hands. Defense is actually better than it's ever been.

1025
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: It's just the offense is growing at a faster rate.

1026
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: And I think that a lot of times there's just

1027
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: a misconception about defense was better in the nineties.

1028
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 5: It wasn't.

1029
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: It was really good still, it's just as a league,

1030
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: the offense is outpacing it right now.

1031
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, you up a little bit.

1032
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that was the right answer, Jason, But it took

1033
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: way too long for you to say that, So I

1034
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: don't know if we can count that one, just so

1035
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, but that was the right answer.

1036
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: That was the right answer.

1037
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: Give us a dark horse team for this next year,

1038
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: and also a dark horse player.

1039
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: Who you want to see on the twenty twenty eight

1040
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: Olympic team.

1041
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: Dark horse team. I think a lot of people forget

1042
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: how good Memphis was. I think they're gonna be top

1043
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: we seed, like right away. I think they they kind

1044
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 4: of found a couple of forwards in their system between

1045
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: like guys like Vince Williams and and Gig Jackson and

1046
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 4: John Rant I'd like, I threw out this stat the

1047
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 4: other day, like he just immediately came in. It was

1048
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: awesome and helped them win a win a lot of

1049
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 4: games where he got hurt. What was the second part

1050
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: of the question, All right.

1051
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 6: Give me a dark horse player? Do you want to

1052
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 6: see on the twenty twenty eight Olympic team?

1053
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: On the twenty twenty eight Olympic Team? Ah, I'll go

1054
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 4: with how about Kevin Durant.

1055
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 6: Lebron's a given back out there, But if.

1056
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: There was an old guy who would come back, I'd

1057
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: be him, right because he's such a right right, Like yeah,

1058
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: like Katie just taking spot up jump shots.

1059
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like he's he's just stuck there in

1060
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: the corner. Man just find him.

1061
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: He's in love to hoop, all right, And I got

1062
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: to say we have seen your mixtape on the Twitter bio.

1063
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: But what is your personal highlight for you as a

1064
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: basketball player?

1065
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: Was the nastiest in game moment for you that you

1066
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: still think about when you put yourself.

1067
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 5: To bedtnit O.

1068
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I would say, if I had

1069
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: to off the top of my head, I would say

1070
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: when I was at when I was in Juco, I

1071
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: had a tip dunk once that I surprised myself with

1072
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 4: where I was coming down the lane and I was

1073
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: actually just going to grab the offensive rebound. And when

1074
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: I went up and got it, I remember vividly in

1075
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: my head like looking over and seeing the rim like

1076
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: right here, and I was just.

1077
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, But I mean we've had that happen

1078
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: to us, to Jack and I a lot like right there.

1079
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah too oft but it happens too often where I'm

1080
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 3: not prepared for how high I jumped.

1081
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: Spoob.

1082
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 3: I wish I could get it through my thick head.

1083
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: You have incredible springs down there, buddy.

1084
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Got bunnies.

1085
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 4: I think I think that's probably it. Like I, just

1086
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: like everybody else, there's a there's it's basketball for me,

1087
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: and I'm sure it is for you guys. Too, Like

1088
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: it's it's a thing that's lasted for decades for me.

1089
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: So I just have, you know, a lot of memory.

1090
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: Like you know what I've had a lot of fun

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Speaker 4: with is just like as an old guy playing in

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Speaker 4: like money tournaments more there's cash on the line. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just had I just had one a few weeks

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Speaker 4: ago where I put in three hundred bucks as an

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Speaker 4: entry feed. Me and a buddy of mine split the

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Speaker 4: entry fee and we brought a team in and like

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Speaker 4: it was double elimination and we lost in the first

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Speaker 4: championship game. We had to like come back and win

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Speaker 4: two in a row, and like the ac was broken

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Speaker 4: in the gym. It was like eighty five degrees and

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Speaker 4: like those moments when you like win the cash and

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Speaker 4: like and you're with a bunch of dudes who used

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Speaker 4: to play in college. Like, I've actually had a lot

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Speaker 4: of enjoyment in the game post college, which is something

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Speaker 4: that I didn't expect. The big part of that is

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Speaker 4: I'm just a lot better now than I used to

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Speaker 4: be when I was in college.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, this is true. Some white men can jump. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it turns out.

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Speaker 1: And I find it troubling perfectly, all right, Any time

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Speaker 1: you get up there, Jack, You're like, why am I

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Speaker 1: going so high?

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Speaker 6: I'm too high?

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Speaker 2: This is can't handle the landing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Adjacent to thank you so much for joining us on

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Where do the people

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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, hear you, support you, read you,

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff.

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Speaker 4: This is a lot of fun. I really appreciate you

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Speaker 4: guys having me on the Hoops Tonight YouTube channel, Hoops

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Speaker 4: Tonight podcast podcast feed, and then on Twitter at underscore

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Speaker 4: json lt is where I'm most active. I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: get better using Instagram, but Twitter's just where my biggest

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Speaker 4: following is right now. So that's where I like tweet

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Speaker 4: out show announcements and links and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Well, you can follow the hashtag mad Boosties

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Speaker 1: b sd I e s for show links and updates,

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Speaker 1: and then you'll also be able to join the discord

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Speaker 1: when you search for that hashtag. We have all the

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Speaker 1: information there. You can follow me on Twitter at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray. I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien, and that.

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Speaker 2: Was another fantastic episode on Miles and Jack. I'm mad

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Speaker 2: most these.

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Speaker 6: In Yeah, I think it was pretty fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Sweet I think it was.

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Speaker 4: Wait.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not often you get three dudes who

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Speaker 2: are just so used to being up there.

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Speaker 1: You thought we had NASA suits on, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. But we are just three ortle men just

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Speaker 1: enjoying the game of basketball. Thank you, doctor Nasmith for

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Speaker 1: all you've done, and thank you to our calves for

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Speaker 1: being springy.

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Speaker 2: And muscular and taking us to heights unseen before. All right, y'all,

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Speaker 2: that was it for us. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye,