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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor set, De Montree Moore,
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Speaker 4: It is the Players Lounges. Cowboys training camp is underway.
Speaker 4: We are here in Frisco to Cowboys Headquarters. The team
Speaker 4: is out in Oxtar, California, So welcome in.
Speaker 2: And the Players Lounge new and improved.
Speaker 4: We've got Anthony dor Set, got Trey Moore, We've got
Speaker 4: Barry Church, all three former NFL players.
Speaker 2: I'm merely new sdrugs to help compensate the cops facing here. Guys,
Speaker 2: they are in uh shells today.
Speaker 5: Hold on, I don't go straight, go go get that
Speaker 5: call first, like the first the first pad of practices Sunday,
Speaker 5: see your NFL p A and got the rules l
Speaker 5: P about that over here, the plays for themselves.
Speaker 4: Somebody in the Magic City and that's what they say, Choulder,
Speaker 4: So league rules you got, you know, it's like like
Speaker 4: high school. You gotta work these days to go ahead
Speaker 4: and starts Catasnic saying right now to feel good.
Speaker 6: Man, I don't care what you say you over there
Speaker 6: talking about scally is this and that we all know
Speaker 6: that when that helmet come on and you get any
Speaker 6: type of padding up under there, somebody is going to
Speaker 6: be a temple violator, y'all popping, don't don't, don't get
Speaker 6: caf slipping y'all head.
Speaker 7: But it's better to be prepared than be aware.
Speaker 6: That's not trying to go with that and with y'all nowadays,
Speaker 6: I guarantee you George picking that big dog.
Speaker 5: Overbody getting on and then that's going escalating and something
Speaker 5: gets the scrapping.
Speaker 8: If you got shells on, you can get got period.
Speaker 8: If you got shells on, you could get God. And
Speaker 8: you already know, just like I said, that temple gonna change,
Speaker 8: somebody gonna say something. It's gonna get a little bit
Speaker 8: more competitive, and then somebody gonna get cleaned.
Speaker 5: Who was a violator when y'all, when y'all play, everybody
Speaker 5: had the same tempo on your.
Speaker 2: There was one guy that like, man, why you hit
Speaker 2: him like that?
Speaker 3: And it's started it off.
Speaker 2: So when I was with.
Speaker 8: The Titans, we had dude name blame Bishops all blame
Speaker 8: scrappy all Blaine scrappy because every day Blaine was setting
Speaker 8: it off, setting it off every day.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He he was that guy.
Speaker 7: He played, He.
Speaker 2: Played with that chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 8: He was a small safety, short safety in the box
Speaker 8: all the time, so that was one of his things.
Speaker 8: He just he just lived in that space all the time.
Speaker 8: And then of course when I got to the Raiders,
Speaker 8: it could have been anybody. It could have been anybody
Speaker 8: any day, anybody.
Speaker 2: Rosters it was going down like that.
Speaker 6: Some rosters that are just historically like hey, you know
Speaker 6: you going in there, get your lunch pilled.
Speaker 7: Going.
Speaker 6: Raiders still like those organizations where it's like, oh Seahawks.
Speaker 6: When I got there, Legion of Boom, It's like, oh
Speaker 6: coach coach. Coach Carroll made it a point to where
Speaker 6: he said, hey, them scalies, they're not going on.
Speaker 7: We either showed the paths or nothing, because we know
Speaker 7: there's no in between.
Speaker 6: And I feel like the Raiders from my ten year
Speaker 6: when I played there, what he said, being the Journeyman.
Speaker 7: It was like, hey, you had them dogs on that
Speaker 7: on that Jeff.
Speaker 4: Fishing teams mans always camp. They was fighting Jeff Fisher
Speaker 4: Show team showed up, bro I left going.
Speaker 8: We separated the offense versus defense all the time. So
Speaker 8: it was one of them things where like it didn't
Speaker 8: matter who you had on offense who was on defense.
Speaker 8: It was like we was two different teams, you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. And that's the way we approach practice
Speaker 8: all the time. So Jeff had the thing where he caught,
Speaker 8: let's get nasty and at any period where you got
Speaker 8: them pass on, you.
Speaker 2: Can get nasty.
Speaker 8: It didn't matter who you was either except for like
Speaker 8: Steve McNair or something like that.
Speaker 2: If and he came through there with his big as.
Speaker 5: It was a temple violator when you man, when I
Speaker 5: played it was my boy my running name. Will Cox
Speaker 5: was a safety next ToJ will Cox. Man, It's like
Speaker 5: he never like really meant to, but like he would
Speaker 5: go for the rock but then kind of lower the
Speaker 5: shoulder at the last minute, catch a guy off guard
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, here we go. And I remember
Speaker 5: him and Dad's got into it on a couple of
Speaker 5: times they'd get the swinging and I'm like, once he
Speaker 5: gets the swing, I'm like, I can't, I gotta go.
Speaker 2: You got I'm like, man.
Speaker 5: It's a big waste of energy, but you gotta be
Speaker 5: with your dog out there, man.
Speaker 3: But he was a temple violator.
Speaker 7: For sure.
Speaker 6: We didn't have none, like at least well, I've been
Speaker 6: around some iconic temple violators, but my tenure here at
Speaker 6: the Cowboy, we didn't really have the closest person I
Speaker 6: say that was a temple violator would be elite. But
Speaker 6: Malik Collins at the time still ball balling doing his work.
Speaker 6: But it was more so he wasn't a temple violator.
Speaker 6: He was just like, I promise you I'm gonna get
Speaker 6: them before they get us. Now, the old Lineman temple
Speaker 6: violet Travis, Frederick temple violate, Zach He temple violated, Tired.
Speaker 6: He wasn't a temple violator, but it was like he
Speaker 6: was so stern where it'd be like, hey, big fellow,
Speaker 6: slow down just so I could do that. So I
Speaker 6: gotta get ready to go work on him. But it's
Speaker 6: like you knew somebody in that those interior three they
Speaker 6: were gonna violate. Malik was gonna respond, and next thing
Speaker 6: you know, we gotta scratch. And you look at Toddy
Speaker 6: Crawford like, hey, you're good to that, he said, bro,
Speaker 6: I am trying to be a d n and not
Speaker 6: in the middle of.
Speaker 7: Mary Nelly. He you know, he's gonna sit there and
Speaker 7: hype you up. Brickler, let's go.
Speaker 2: Nick Days had the nick names for everybody.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: So practice going on right now. George Pickens is fine.
Speaker 4: It was video yesterday George got cramps, so it was
Speaker 4: cramps out there and training, can't It takes a minute
Speaker 4: to get the body even though people you should be
Speaker 4: ready to shape is different, thank you all.
Speaker 7: It's completely different.
Speaker 4: All shaped different, different type of training, get your body rolling.
Speaker 4: And then of course, as you talked about new guy,
Speaker 4: new team, trying to make it impression every reap.
Speaker 2: Now Ralph Chrispy.
Speaker 6: Everything, he's already been known to be like that hard
Speaker 6: working guy. So like coming in and approving yourself. It's like,
Speaker 6: calm down, baby, Like we got a loan, we don't,
Speaker 6: we don't need that from you, play maker, ain't you
Speaker 6: ain't the young guy over here.
Speaker 7: Just slow it down.
Speaker 4: And that cramp when it gets you, you know, especially
Speaker 4: that kind of intense level, it hurt.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: Right right now, what he.
Speaker 7: Said, come get me, come give me.
Speaker 8: You good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just grab it.
Speaker 7: You gotta make it look good. Hey, Jim, come get.
Speaker 6: What sucks is when everybody comes around you and you're like, bro,
Speaker 6: don't need all y'all around me.
Speaker 7: It's a cramp. But you got to play it off.
Speaker 9: That's what happened. That's what happened on the video. You know,
Speaker 9: you think, all right, it was just cramp. Everybody in
Speaker 9: the locker room laughing.
Speaker 8: But when you're down there and that happens to you,
Speaker 8: so like, that's happened to me. I had a I
Speaker 8: had what we called total recall, with every muscle in
Speaker 8: my bike, upset for my heart basically, and like, I
Speaker 8: just remember, everything was cool. It was actually actually after
Speaker 8: practice one day. You get him during practice, but I
Speaker 8: just remember this one day in particular, we was walking
Speaker 8: from practice to go to the cafeteria to get some food,
Speaker 8: and I just remember telling somebody like, hey man, some.
Speaker 7: Don't feel right.
Speaker 2: I woke up on the ivy table.
Speaker 8: A little bit later, like ive's on both arms. I
Speaker 8: had to get six bags. Six bags.
Speaker 2: We was in San Antonio.
Speaker 7: Hey, I love it. I need that perspective.
Speaker 6: But once again, you was in a differ from the
Speaker 6: era of training camps were talking about three of days
Speaker 6: too hard practice, not to mention that long meeting all
Speaker 6: days come on.
Speaker 7: It's a little different like he went through an era.
Speaker 6: I went through an air like they this is day
Speaker 6: one day to cramping. I'm not about to minimalize it
Speaker 6: and say it was soft like it happened the same. No, no, no,
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it wasn't as
Speaker 6: bad and it wasn't as good. Just get ready for
Speaker 6: the camp.
Speaker 2: We good.
Speaker 7: But that right there, that's that was That was the
Speaker 7: camp days was crazy.
Speaker 4: It some more camp news out here, Tyrone Blair, I
Speaker 4: mean drown Blaine, I should said drawn Bland, not practice.
Speaker 4: His wife's having a baby, so congratulations, Yes, the right
Speaker 4: thing to dude. Go ahead and handle your business out there.
Speaker 4: One player, a couple of players at Brian Shottenheimer S's
Speaker 4: been pressed by day one ceedee lamb of course, Luke
Speaker 4: Schoonmaker school here three got to see something out of
Speaker 4: school and Donovan as a rocket second round draft pick
Speaker 4: and it's been kid out of Boston College number two
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my pick, that's my pick. That might be
Speaker 7: your cute dog brother. Go ahead and do whatever you're
Speaker 7: gonna do.
Speaker 6: But I told you that what he said, I had
Speaker 6: to scoop that was a player.
Speaker 2: Bet on the dog. I get it as you should.
Speaker 6: You what you say, he gonna be a good dog
Speaker 6: and you gotta leave him.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you gotta make him drink, and he's drinking out there.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 5: What I don't understand is how can you judge the
Speaker 5: trenches with nothing, with no pet.
Speaker 2: Under I've seen uh they talking about te the guy.
Speaker 5: Oh man, he looks good, looks like he got some
Speaker 5: the bricks in his pocket. Man, boys, ain't got no
Speaker 5: pas on, no bullets. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: you dipping and ripping you ain't. Ain't nobody trying to
Speaker 5: said something about Turban. I've seen it. Just before I
Speaker 5: came in here, i was on my phone. He was saying,
Speaker 5: like Turban hit the corner and.
Speaker 8: He was out like this, And I'm like, I ain't
Speaker 8: got no pazz on, Like he's gonna runs hard in
Speaker 8: freege fast.
Speaker 6: Ain't nobody putting like you're right to certain to stand.
Speaker 6: But let's not get it misconstrueded. It's certain guys where
Speaker 6: you come in and you see them college level of
Speaker 6: the pro level, where you're like hold.
Speaker 7: On like he's doing the bag drills.
Speaker 6: Right, He's not like coasting, but it looks fired like
Speaker 6: he's doing that. Like his man plays is there, Like
Speaker 6: it's look fluid where you're like, hey, he looks good.
Speaker 6: But then also you sit there and tell yourself like
Speaker 6: we ain't got on pass.
Speaker 7: Let's see if he still look good like that.
Speaker 6: But what that being said like for for something right now,
Speaker 6: you got to have a bright spot when you're saying
Speaker 6: your main guy, Michael Parsons is not there. You're bringing
Speaker 6: in another veteran guy that they just signed in Jamie Houston.
Speaker 6: You're talking about the other guys coming off injuries, like right,
Speaker 6: all the all them guys, like yeah, my second round
Speaker 6: is coming in there, and he's leading. He's a he's
Speaker 6: a leader amongst men, and the show that you're a
Speaker 6: leader this early in the game.
Speaker 7: I think that vets very well, especially in the Eberflus defense.
Speaker 6: If that makes it we're not just we pros now,
Speaker 6: y'all know they're not just giving out pack pancakes just
Speaker 6: for pancakes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Shot shot.
Speaker 4: He kind of seems like he's gonna be hey, hey,
Speaker 4: the glass half fool guy and go look for the positive.
Speaker 4: It's gonna bring out the positive. He's talking to the media. Hey,
Speaker 4: this player flash, So I can see that. But there's
Speaker 4: I found in covering cowboys. There's different levels. It's the
Speaker 4: underwear Olympics level. Then it's the pads are popping, the
Speaker 4: all ox Nart level. Good out there, Oxnar baby. Next
Speaker 4: thing you get to a preseason game, can't nobody finds
Speaker 4: you on take getting blown out?
Speaker 2: Where was this passes? Danny A Mondola was that guy.
Speaker 4: When Danny Amadola was here, man, everybody was hyping him
Speaker 4: up preseason game. Man could catch punt, did nothing. They
Speaker 4: ended up cutting him and he went on.
Speaker 7: He became him that guy being here right.
Speaker 10: Here.
Speaker 4: It didn't happen that way. So I said, all ox Gnar.
Speaker 4: The dudes out here kicking field goals, looking good preseason
Speaker 4: game and shaking the left and right. So I said
Speaker 4: the all ox Nard level. And and then it's the
Speaker 4: the guys who are preseason ballers. Looked okay, can't look
Speaker 4: all right? Next thing the lights are on, oh, making plays,
Speaker 4: making plays. So those are the levels for me. It's
Speaker 4: as far as covering the team.
Speaker 2: I've seen you have.
Speaker 6: Those levels and even with those levels, there are some
Speaker 6: guys where it's like you need them to hit those markers,
Speaker 6: like because if they don't hit none of those markers,
Speaker 6: we're gonna be sitting here at the end when it's
Speaker 6: time to get to that rockter spot and be like,
Speaker 6: he didn't do none of this beforehand. So right now
Speaker 6: he's checking off the boxes. But I mean, like you said,
Speaker 6: nobody got on pads right now. Sunday they get there
Speaker 6: and Sunday and.
Speaker 3: A good example of that.
Speaker 2: You know, this is my guy tolderd. So last year
Speaker 2: he was can't He's taking that next step. He's that guy.
Speaker 5: He's grabbing it off the sky. He's climbing the ladder.
Speaker 5: He's doing this in no CDs. He looks look at it.
Speaker 2: Number two. He could be that number two.
Speaker 7: He could be the Robin Man.
Speaker 3: We get to the bright lights, my magic can clamp.
Speaker 7: But can't help me.
Speaker 3: You can't get out.
Speaker 6: As much as we put it out there that you said,
Speaker 6: Shoty is a guy that is a half full type
Speaker 6: of guy. I feel like he's giving those shout outs
Speaker 6: in the media because I feel like he's being real
Speaker 6: and transparent what you have to be with the America's
Speaker 6: team in the media, but also on those clips that
Speaker 6: I've seen him in practice, I seen him yelling at people,
Speaker 6: get up, run, we can't have this.
Speaker 7: Oh, you make a mistake.
Speaker 6: So I wonder is he really is he being as
Speaker 6: nice as we're sending in the media, or if he's
Speaker 6: really judging those guys.
Speaker 4: So here's what my job in the media is going
Speaker 4: to be is to start to dissect how a shoddy
Speaker 4: press conference is what he says means. Jimmy was that
Speaker 4: way when I covered Jimmy. Jimmy would tell you and
Speaker 4: he would talk. He would use the media to talk
Speaker 4: to guys. Parcels would do it too. Jason Garrett didn't
Speaker 4: use the media to deliver his message. What you got
Speaker 4: from Jason was what he didn't say about a player.
Speaker 2: Hey, what do you think about Zach?
Speaker 4: You talk about a guy that comes and brings it
Speaker 4: every night, the right kind of football? Hey what about
Speaker 4: so and so he's work and he's trying to That's
Speaker 4: what you.
Speaker 7: Again down.
Speaker 4: So it's what Jason didn't say was always where I knew, Okay,
Speaker 4: was he really he would he wouldn't kill a player.
Speaker 4: But what he wouldn't say about the player versus the
Speaker 4: effusive praise of another guy.
Speaker 2: So that's how I started to figure out what was Jason.
Speaker 7: So which one you think shot is gonna be?
Speaker 2: I gotta find out.
Speaker 4: So when I get out there and just start to
Speaker 4: see after a while, and you'll see, like with Steven,
Speaker 4: we like our guys now, bro, when we see the
Speaker 4: perceiving coin no good and you want to tell me,
Speaker 4: I like our guys like due you okay.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody see that we're coming along good?
Speaker 4: Like that curtain Steve Steven will sit up there, and
Speaker 4: I've learned how to d coole who ain't really working,
Speaker 4: and how Steven's trying to cover for guys.
Speaker 6: So would you say that mister Jones is technically learning
Speaker 6: from the Jimmy Playbook and stuff like that and trying
Speaker 6: to use the media right now to talk to guys
Speaker 6: like antagonize, trep the thing, like to get a fire
Speaker 6: up under them. Some of he's the former player.
Speaker 4: Some of Jerry's stuff is just transparent. You go back
Speaker 4: to with Amari Cooper, when Amari Cooper missed time because
Speaker 4: he didn't get the shot. Yeah, Covie, he'd let you
Speaker 4: know he wasn't happy about it. He told all of
Speaker 4: us people need to be getting a shot. I don't
Speaker 4: want nobody ra he Jerry very plain about it, and
Speaker 4: Cooper gotten the dog house.
Speaker 2: He ended up cutting it, traded.
Speaker 7: Him, so they ended up getting rid of him.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 4: He let you know unequivocally, you got that bag, and
Speaker 4: only a certain amount of people rut here getting the bag.
Speaker 2: We expect you to be here.
Speaker 4: Then he goes and he pulls out the Hey, Damon
Speaker 4: sand is in the weight room. I damn I need
Speaker 4: you here. So his whole press conference was about I'm
Speaker 4: not happy with you digs, the whole micah thing. That's
Speaker 4: just guess what crossfire. No, this is Jerry hey man,
Speaker 4: you know this is what I do with these contracts.
Speaker 4: And Dad had to go through. It had to go through.
Speaker 4: It will make you better, you always said your term.
Speaker 8: Jerry is not pressed about what anybody else is doing,
Speaker 8: like peer and then like people always say, we're like yo,
Speaker 8: if he get this deal done, he might get the
Speaker 8: deal done, and he might not have to pay somebody
Speaker 8: so much more than he's gonna have to do because
Speaker 8: everybody else is getting these deal done ahead of these guys.
Speaker 2: He don't care about that.
Speaker 7: And I wouldn't need it.
Speaker 6: Like what it's like they say, what ain't fixed, you know,
Speaker 6: if it ain't broken, don't fix. And in his his mindset,
Speaker 6: it's like, this is what's got me here to the top.
Speaker 6: I've been at the lowest lows and build it all
Speaker 6: all the way up to the highs and highs and
Speaker 6: what's got.
Speaker 7: Me to the highs?
Speaker 6: Hies right here. I'm not gonna change. The game is
Speaker 6: still the same, just like they say. The shield is
Speaker 6: still the same.
Speaker 4: And he also likes stirring the pot. Does not want
Speaker 4: Is you not to care? That's his number one thing.
Speaker 4: Love him, hate him? Long talk by them cowboys, put
Speaker 4: it on your little TV.
Speaker 7: But I like it.
Speaker 4: And he will at times say stuff that he knows
Speaker 4: he shouldn't. Remember when Dak was hurting Cooper Rush was
Speaker 4: having a good run, talk about that.
Speaker 2: Be nice if we were talking about a quarterback controversy.
Speaker 2: And then McCarthy not used to this, And so.
Speaker 5: Then you saw McCarthy out there like, oh gosh, I
Speaker 5: gotta deal with this here He's.
Speaker 4: Gonna throw that little bomb and walk out there, and
Speaker 4: that's him, that's him, No, you know, this is who he.
Speaker 4: So you have to learn to do what I thought
Speaker 4: ceed Lamb did a great job when he's on the
Speaker 4: podium talking, yeah, I want Mikey to get paid.
Speaker 3: This is not fun.
Speaker 4: I've gone through it, and so we make like, look, dude,
Speaker 4: I've been in the circus about the money thing.
Speaker 2: You really can't worry about. I've been there. It's not fun.
Speaker 2: I hope he gets his bad I'm not participating in it.
Speaker 6: And he played chess not checking, and you could you
Speaker 6: could have been up there and be brothers in on
Speaker 6: him because I didn't got a tag. You get a taging.
Speaker 6: So it's funny. That's about the how the media is
Speaker 6: trying to swing.
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's get a break here.
Speaker 4: Let's get a break here, and and when we come back,
Speaker 4: when I ask you guys, and then think about this true.
Speaker 4: Would it be better if Micah Parsons was not at
Speaker 4: camp versus being a hold in at training camp? Sof
Speaker 4: he's away, don't see him, you don't have to look
Speaker 4: at him doing warming up anything as a player. What
Speaker 4: is better as you have to go to training campus
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Speaker 6: area and stuff like that, I.
Speaker 7: Was like, snap, this is a closer racing.
Speaker 3: I thought they got some some dogs out of there.
Speaker 4: I mean, did you know that Lebron James and Steph
Speaker 4: Curry were born in the same hospital in Akron?
Speaker 2: Didn't know Steph was from out there. I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Daddy played for the Calfs. So yeah, I mean you
Speaker 4: think about that. I mean different different years, but the
Speaker 4: same hospital. Two m v p s and two Hall
Speaker 4: of famers and two dudes who won four championship shot
Speaker 4: up one hospital.
Speaker 6: That's wild man. Both of them revolutionized the game with.
Speaker 4: And and and look and I'll take another one. When
Speaker 4: I lived in Ohio, Pennsylvania was next door. The crazy
Speaker 4: amount of football talent to come out that state.
Speaker 2: Bro p A two Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: I mean, so it's it's I would say for a
Speaker 4: football talent. Place you look at at Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, California. Man,
Speaker 4: you can make some Hall of Fame rosters right there
Speaker 4: with just those states man and then baseball too.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's crazy amount of town that.
Speaker 6: You say all that to say, the big money churches.
Speaker 7: In the Hall of Fame, be proud of that. Very
Speaker 7: surprised that.
Speaker 2: Find out who nominated you and sending them a bottle
Speaker 2: of something.
Speaker 3: Somebody, somebody holped your boy up.
Speaker 4: Dominating process that goes with that, all right. So Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons is at training camp. Michael Parsons wants a new deal.
Speaker 4: He spoke about it. He and Trayvon Diggs had an interesting,
Speaker 4: uh press conference after where's poor Tad Carper?
Speaker 2: Cowboys pr just.
Speaker 4: Wanting to cut it off and they was like, no,
Speaker 4: we're good. You know when the PR man trying to
Speaker 4: break it up the play, No, no, we good.
Speaker 2: The PR man stop, what are you doing back there?
Speaker 4: And so so he's a he's holding in, he's you know,
Speaker 4: warming up, you know, doing a slight individual liked hold
Speaker 4: the bag.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you coach up, but you're good. You're playing the
Speaker 7: game within the game.
Speaker 4: So all three of you played in the NFL. This
Speaker 4: this holding thing is a new kind of thing, is it?
Speaker 4: If you're watching, is it better? Do you wish he
Speaker 4: was just gone or you're sitting here watching it? How
Speaker 4: do you feel as a player you see something like that?
Speaker 8: I mean, I think that like it's it's it's definitely
Speaker 8: a strategy to what he's doing. I mean, he has
Speaker 8: one of the top agents in the league right now, Yes,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, And so if his agent
Speaker 8: and his team didn't think it would be beneficial and
Speaker 8: smart for him to be here and some kind of
Speaker 8: he wouldn't be here, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 8: whatever they're doing, whatever tactic they're using, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean, it's something that they've planned out ahead of time. Now,
Speaker 8: I'm sure with the thought process is that he you know,
Speaker 8: Jerry likes to talk to players, and Michael liked to
Speaker 8: talk to Jerry somewhere in between. There they hoping that
Speaker 8: there's gonna be a little rub here and there. But
Speaker 8: I definitely think that there's there's there's a little bit
Speaker 8: of catch twenty two to both sides of it.
Speaker 2: Number One, you get to see what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Okay, but is it good for him to be there,
Speaker 4: to just be gone like when Zeke was going wasn't there.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 6: From me and a player's perspective, this is the best
Speaker 6: thing that he is doing for him as a player,
Speaker 6: as a fan. He is doing everything right because everybody's
Speaker 6: done it before.
Speaker 7: Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
Speaker 6: With everything that's going on with Trayvon Digg sitting down
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, if he was sitting out, you
Speaker 6: not being there. That gives the media a chance to
Speaker 6: paint whatever narrative, That gives the ownership of whoever guys
Speaker 6: to say, hey, you don't have a chance to voice yourself.
Speaker 7: He is voicing for himself. He's there, He's present.
Speaker 6: Every time somebody's put a big question on him, He's
Speaker 6: been there chest out, whether it's him his agent. Because
Speaker 6: there's also been times throughout this where Jerry's took a
Speaker 6: shot at his agent and Michael's come out and said, hey,
Speaker 6: I don't know what my age is talking about, but
Speaker 6: this is what we're going to get done. But then
Speaker 6: also there's been times where Michael has stood up for
Speaker 6: his agent. So I think this is on him being
Speaker 6: a professional and being there to where now his narrative
Speaker 6: is paying you see me, Guess what, My body ain't
Speaker 6: big and nothing like that. I look still swollen, I'm
Speaker 6: still warming enough, like I just want to get paid.
Speaker 6: So now it puts all the pressure to say, hey,
Speaker 6: it's not me. I'm still here with the team. I'm
Speaker 6: still doing that to where like, if you don't give
Speaker 6: me my money, now, guess what, I got the media
Speaker 6: with me. And there's a million other teams that want
Speaker 6: to pay him, which, like we said, Jerry pays this
Speaker 6: guys that he really wants. So Michael be here now.
Speaker 3: He's playing the game perfect on perfect.
Speaker 5: When you look at it from a leadership standpoint, you know,
Speaker 5: this defense, especially on that side of the ball, it's
Speaker 5: kind of void of leadership.
Speaker 3: You lost d Law, you lost Jorge Lewis.
Speaker 5: All right, this is a young defense and it needs
Speaker 5: his leaders there in the locker room and players to
Speaker 5: look up to.
Speaker 3: I mean Diggs, he wasn't around in OTAs.
Speaker 5: So Parsons is the guy that these these young teammates
Speaker 5: are looking for to be the leader on the team,
Speaker 5: whether it's vocally, whether it's lead back, example, whatever the
Speaker 5: case may be and he's putting the ownership or he's
Speaker 5: putting everything owners on the ownership group, because you can't
Speaker 5: look at him and say, oh, he's not here.
Speaker 3: He's not participating, because he's there. He's he's holding the bags.
Speaker 5: He might not be, you know, going through all the activities,
Speaker 5: but he's being a leader on the field. And not
Speaker 5: only that, you got a new defensive coordinator, you got
Speaker 5: a whole new defense, whole.
Speaker 3: New terminology how they want him to come off the field.
Speaker 5: As far as come off the edge, he's gonna be
Speaker 5: out there and he's gonna learn the defense without having
Speaker 5: to go out there and go through all that stuff.
Speaker 5: Because if we're being honest, he's jogging through individual he
Speaker 5: ain't really hitting nobody, so he ain't doing nothing to
Speaker 5: his body. He's just learning, getting the mineral reps and
Speaker 5: being a leader for the team. So I think he's
Speaker 5: playing the game perfect.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 4: So Jamal Houston defensive end eight acts in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: which Detroit got an ankle injury, really hasn't done a
Speaker 4: whole lot since kid out of Jackson State.
Speaker 2: They've signed him.
Speaker 4: Also, other pass rushers on this team, Dante Fowler, You
Speaker 4: got Peyton Turner, Marshawn Kneeling, and you've got Sam Williams
Speaker 4: and diving as a rocker. By the way, running first
Speaker 4: team for the defensive ends yesterday was Peyton Turner and
Speaker 4: Marshaun Marshaw Neil. I'll start with you over here, Trey,
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this defensive This defensive.
Speaker 7: End group is stacked with a lot of young talent,
Speaker 7: a lot of unproven people.
Speaker 6: The only person that's proven on this roster is Dante
Speaker 6: Fowler because the most proven, I guess you people are
Speaker 6: looking at him as a journey man. You got you
Speaker 6: got mister Houston, James James Houston, or he's coming out
Speaker 6: Jamal Hoast. I'm sorry for messing that up, but you
Speaker 6: got him coming off his most productive year.
Speaker 7: With three years ago.
Speaker 6: So a lot of these guys are coming off the injury.
Speaker 6: I guess it was twenty twenty two when he was
Speaker 6: with the line. Like a lot of these guys coming
Speaker 6: off injury. There's no got it, nobody that is the guy.
Speaker 6: When you sit here and tell me who's running with
Speaker 6: the ones, I'm not impressed until you show me a
Speaker 6: weekend of training camp after the past. That's what's gonna
Speaker 6: tell me what I need to know as far as
Speaker 6: those guys. But what the way I look at this
Speaker 6: is because me being a journeyman myself, a lot of
Speaker 6: these guys you don't.
Speaker 7: Have that expectation.
Speaker 6: You don't sit here and say, hey, I expect you
Speaker 6: to be the Michael Parson. So this is gonna be
Speaker 6: opportunity for a lot of people to get that chip
Speaker 6: on their shoulders and going to work. And so I'm
Speaker 6: ready to see with opportunity, who's gonna rise, who's gonna
Speaker 6: be the cream of the crop and go to the top,
Speaker 6: And who's gonna sit there and let this wither pass you?
Speaker 6: Because once Michael gets paid, once Michael steps on the
Speaker 6: field and goes full speed, a lot of those reps
Speaker 6: are gonna be taken away. So this is the chance
Speaker 6: for somebody to really show up and make a name
Speaker 6: for theirself.
Speaker 3: And I'm a heart back to this, and you know
Speaker 3: I always go to this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great to get your reps on the defensive
Speaker 5: side of the football. Come off the edge of showing
Speaker 5: the coaches what you gotta do. You not gonna make
Speaker 5: this squad as a pass rusher, It's packed, No man,
Speaker 5: show me what you could do kick off, run down it.
Speaker 2: Man, Like people get wrapped up in this what you can.
Speaker 7: Do off the edge?
Speaker 3: Make sure you're balling on teams.
Speaker 5: Man, If that's how you want to make the squad,
Speaker 5: that's the only way, and I think you're gonna make.
Speaker 6: That's the majority of That's the only reason that I
Speaker 6: stayed in the league as long as I did this.
Speaker 6: I was good at pass rushing, like doing that, but
Speaker 6: it was what was the extra How do you build
Speaker 6: more value in yourself? So with this opportunity, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: guys are gonna sit here. They're gonna say, hey, we
Speaker 6: know Michael's here. We expect our high draft draft round
Speaker 6: pick to get his opportunity. They found me to go
Speaker 6: out there, Dante, you gotta go out there and kill
Speaker 6: it right now. We're gonna have to put you at
Speaker 6: least on one special team. And that's where when I
Speaker 6: start hearing stuff come out in the media about this
Speaker 6: guy had a block pass rush, he rushed on punt
Speaker 6: return or kick off, he was holding it up. Those
Speaker 6: are going to be the guys that I could tell you, like, hey,
Speaker 6: he really wanted by any mean that defensive end, said
Speaker 6: I don't care, and I'm not limiting myself.
Speaker 4: How many places and I get out of a guy
Speaker 4: that was par so?
Speaker 2: How many plays can I get? All right, let's get
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Speaker 4: we got Barry Church. All three men played in the
Speaker 4: National Football Leaf. Hey playing playing man thirteen years right.
Speaker 7: Twelve fine in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Three in the cfling you gotta pinch.
Speaker 2: Man, Yes, that was I got check Mark.
Speaker 7: It was hard. I worked hard, Savannah, That man works hard.
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Speaker 4: Las Vegas has a Cowboys as seven and a half
Speaker 4: in terms of win totals, the lowest in twenty years.
Speaker 5: Seven and half Vegas seven and a half.
Speaker 3: That's in now eight and a half.
Speaker 2: In the spring, it is dipped down.
Speaker 4: First, I feel like Las Vegas has been listening to
Speaker 4: the players lines and they stole my stuff, and I said,
Speaker 4: my cowboy, win to it was seven of.
Speaker 2: The possible, A possible mine, put your money, give me
Speaker 2: my possible.
Speaker 4: Put your money on you right now, possible being that
Speaker 4: last game against Giants who these.
Speaker 5: Win and what they're doing so win basically take everything
Speaker 5: down right now, right.
Speaker 3: Now, right now. If the healthy health is a big plan, I.
Speaker 7: Know what you say.
Speaker 3: If that can stay healthy, that's ten win.
Speaker 2: Hey, but what does wins get you in this division?
Speaker 2: From there? I don't you to the playoffs? Is it
Speaker 2: gets you at home? It'll get you in the playoff
Speaker 2: from there? I don't. I don't win a division in
Speaker 2: this division.
Speaker 4: Look, you win ten games. I mean we've seen divisions
Speaker 4: where three teams have gone. I mean North had three
Speaker 4: teams go. I mean, so so that could happen. Okay,
Speaker 4: it can happen. I mean we've seen we've seen the
Speaker 4: West in NF one year they had so we could
Speaker 4: see that happen.
Speaker 7: So do you believe it?
Speaker 2: Do I believe it? I got I got seven seven
Speaker 2: of the possible.
Speaker 7: So something possibile you for sure? We're walking this in
Speaker 7: the book.
Speaker 2: Now write it there right.
Speaker 5: The possible who scares on the East and but outside Philly, outside.
Speaker 7: Who scares off Washington?
Speaker 5: Doesn't Hooper Rush beat Washing Rush now here no more.
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush with the Washington. Cooper gave it the Washington
Speaker 3: already New York man.
Speaker 2: Nobody worry about.
Speaker 7: It about who is it? New York added some added
Speaker 7: some weapons up there.
Speaker 2: You got healthy Dad. Really you can't.
Speaker 8: You can't sleep on Jadon and Daniels his second in
Speaker 8: the league, with the growth that he's going to have.
Speaker 3: Nown't see Robert Griff.
Speaker 5: You got seeing Robert Griffin put up crazy numbers and
Speaker 5: then come back to earth.
Speaker 2: I'm seen it happened it half that's.
Speaker 7: A different thing.
Speaker 4: Is not some core ball brother you can get out here.
Speaker 2: Rock Parker.
Speaker 5: Got him, Cliff Cliff, then you and then you got Kingsbury, Kingsbarry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that's what we put on.
Speaker 6: If you don't ask anybody there that are way better
Speaker 6: coordinator than they are head coaches. And you're talking about
Speaker 6: a guy that can dial that up. I'm putting Kingsbury
Speaker 6: up there with the Shannonans and stuff.
Speaker 7: When you're talking the offensive scheme wise, like drawing stuff up.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I mean he right up there mane like bro.
Speaker 6: That boy is smart. And then on top of that,
Speaker 6: you got d Q up there that can get the
Speaker 6: best out of his player. That defense was humming. Then
Speaker 6: you add von Miller to the mix as well.
Speaker 4: Let me, let me, let me go, man, you you
Speaker 4: don't have no proofing off block play?
Speaker 7: Last year? Enough?
Speaker 2: What we talking about the fastest? What happened with Q
Speaker 2: last year?
Speaker 5: Here he had he's a beast, but coming re acting
Speaker 5: like this, man ain't like this.
Speaker 8: So so the argument could be that the Cowboys got
Speaker 8: a bunch of dudes who've been doing this.
Speaker 2: That's true, but the Cowboys ain't healthy last year. They
Speaker 2: wasn't healthy when they healthy.
Speaker 3: What happened with the Cowboys?
Speaker 2: That was McCarthy. We never got a coach not about
Speaker 2: his coaching.
Speaker 4: Stand you you don't, don't and you sitting up there,
Speaker 4: you pulling on Kingsbury like this man had been around
Speaker 4: some of the greatest minds in football. Got played for
Speaker 4: Mike Leach and I was there with Bill Belichick. He
Speaker 4: was around Josh mcdaie's guy, sat in the quarterback room
Speaker 4: with Tom Brady. This dude is a very good you
Speaker 4: know who else was around around Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3: Mcdame's he was around, he was around there.
Speaker 2: He got a Super Bowl rings Bill Josh learned all
Speaker 2: the bad stuff. He learned how to do the cheating
Speaker 2: and everything else like that. All no, no, let's go.
Speaker 7: But he what he said, what accusations?
Speaker 2: But Washington, Washington a little what what did you see?
Speaker 2: You won? They was was cold, but they they beat them.
Speaker 2: You would not with Cooper rush out there was he
Speaker 2: even playing?
Speaker 3: Yes, like what w like you can't even tell me
Speaker 3: who cowboys was playing when they've been in Washington.
Speaker 2: See, you're not gonna commit me.
Speaker 7: I but that was healthy.
Speaker 4: I mean, if second is healthy, Kansas City should be
Speaker 4: a team makes a playoff. Said about so if it's
Speaker 4: if Lamar Jackson's healthy, Baltimore should be very good, right.
Speaker 5: True statistics and if that based off of the statistics
Speaker 5: the players in the scheme that you are seeing right now,
Speaker 5: if you were a betting man, if we're in that
Speaker 5: locker room, take off your professional head. I'm not about
Speaker 5: to sit here and say, hey, I told you, if
Speaker 5: they healthy, sure ten wins. But just looking at the
Speaker 5: roster where they're at right now, that's seven and the
Speaker 5: possible is more ralistic. Bro like Washington is coming off
Speaker 5: with the offensive m v P guy.
Speaker 6: Then you have the Eagles that are Super Bowl winners,
Speaker 6: like best number three.
Speaker 2: We got to wrap this up.
Speaker 5: So that wasn't second in the MVP two years he
Speaker 5: got what he was healthy.
Speaker 2: That's the last Right now, where are you at? Right now?
Speaker 2: Where you at? Right now? Right now? Where you at?
Speaker 7: That's the ten possible?
Speaker 4: So you go, seven is possible? Okay, So you follow me, George?
Speaker 4: What you got?
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 8: I can't give them ten wins based several factors, but
Speaker 8: one determining factor for me is I don't know how
Speaker 8: they're going to control the ball with who's going to
Speaker 8: run the ball. So and that's just one of the things.
Speaker 7: But what's the numbers that I give?
Speaker 2: I give them eight wins?
Speaker 7: Okay, now give my seven to my possibles.
Speaker 2: Wow, So where are you going? Are you gonna follow me?
Speaker 7: No, I'm the one that led that charge on the space.
Speaker 3: This is all on health.
Speaker 2: What you got?
Speaker 7: I'm like, are we doing new number? Hold on? Are
Speaker 7: we doing new numbers?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Possible?
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're following me, following it?
Speaker 3: Do thank you?
Speaker 7: I'm just saying health imitation is the best for health.
Speaker 2: They healthy.
Speaker 7: That's ten.
Speaker 3: That's ten to ten piece over here in peace man.
Speaker 2: Seven and a half.
Speaker 4: Eight playoffs, Yeah, seven and a half an't getting the
Speaker 4: playoff seven.
Speaker 7: Health.
Speaker 6: Nobody NFC scares me. I'm just I said, nobody scares me.
Speaker 6: But I'm also really nobody scares me.
Speaker 2: But Anthony George said tray more Bury Church, I'm new
Speaker 2: n We'll talk America. Who scares you? In a Dallas goodbye?
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