WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Playing it Off 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:14.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:19.280 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:19.480 At the Star. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:25.799 Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor set, De Montree Moore, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.520 and new he Scrugs. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:31.160 Here. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.559 It is the Players Lounges. Cowboys training camp is underway. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.720 We are here in Frisco to Cowboys Headquarters. The team 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.559 is out in Oxtar, California, So welcome in. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.320 And the Players Lounge new and improved. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.920 We've got Anthony dor Set, got Trey Moore, We've got 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.320 Barry Church, all three former NFL players. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:54.080 I'm merely new sdrugs to help compensate the cops facing here. Guys, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.360 they are in uh shells today. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.760 Hold on, I don't go straight, go go get that 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.880 call first, like the first the first pad of practices Sunday, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:11.320 see your NFL p A and got the rules l 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:17.800 P about that over here, the plays for themselves. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:24.280 Somebody in the Magic City and that's what they say, Choulder, 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.640 So league rules you got, you know, it's like like 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.680 high school. You gotta work these days to go ahead 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.600 and starts Catasnic saying right now to feel good. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.360 Man, I don't care what you say you over there 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.440 talking about scally is this and that we all know 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.920 that when that helmet come on and you get any 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.320 type of padding up under there, somebody is going to 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:49.800 be a temple violator, y'all popping, don't don't, don't get 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:50.880 caf slipping y'all head. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.040 But it's better to be prepared than be aware. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.320 That's not trying to go with that and with y'all nowadays, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.120 I guarantee you George picking that big dog. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.760 Overbody getting on and then that's going escalating and something 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:06.040 gets the scrapping. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:12.200 If you got shells on, you can get got period. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.040 If you got shells on, you could get God. And 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.640 you already know, just like I said, that temple gonna change, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.480 somebody gonna say something. It's gonna get a little bit 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.080 more competitive, and then somebody gonna get cleaned. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.400 Who was a violator when y'all, when y'all play, everybody 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.120 had the same tempo on your. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.480 There was one guy that like, man, why you hit 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:30.880 him like that? 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:31.760 And it's started it off. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:32.799 So when I was with. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:39.880 The Titans, we had dude name blame Bishops all blame 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.079 scrappy all Blaine scrappy because every day Blaine was setting 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.079 it off, setting it off every day. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.919 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He he was that guy. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:49.600 He played, He. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:50.959 Played with that chip on his shoulder. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.680 He was a small safety, short safety in the box 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.840 all the time, so that was one of his things. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.919 He just he just lived in that space all the time. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.799 And then of course when I got to the Raiders, 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.560 it could have been anybody. It could have been anybody 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.280 any day, anybody. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:11.160 Rosters it was going down like that. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.640 Some rosters that are just historically like hey, you know 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.280 you going in there, get your lunch pilled. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:17.519 Going. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.320 Raiders still like those organizations where it's like, oh Seahawks. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.280 When I got there, Legion of Boom, It's like, oh 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.679 coach coach. Coach Carroll made it a point to where 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.079 he said, hey, them scalies, they're not going on. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.280 We either showed the paths or nothing, because we know 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.280 there's no in between. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.560 And I feel like the Raiders from my ten year 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.800 when I played there, what he said, being the Journeyman. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.240 It was like, hey, you had them dogs on that 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.960 on that Jeff. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:48.440 Fishing teams mans always camp. They was fighting Jeff Fisher 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.839 Show team showed up, bro I left going. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.640 We separated the offense versus defense all the time. So 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.680 it was one of them things where like it didn't 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.880 matter who you had on offense who was on defense. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.280 It was like we was two different teams, you know 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.000 what I'm saying. And that's the way we approach practice 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.200 all the time. So Jeff had the thing where he caught, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.120 let's get nasty and at any period where you got 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.520 them pass on, you. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.360 Can get nasty. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.480 It didn't matter who you was either except for like 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.760 Steve McNair or something like that. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.480 If and he came through there with his big as. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.000 It was a temple violator when you man, when I 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.279 played it was my boy my running name. Will Cox 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.359 was a safety next ToJ will Cox. Man, It's like 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.720 he never like really meant to, but like he would 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.360 go for the rock but then kind of lower the 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.960 shoulder at the last minute, catch a guy off guard 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.520 and I'm like, oh, here we go. And I remember 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.640 him and Dad's got into it on a couple of 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.360 times they'd get the swinging and I'm like, once he 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.800 gets the swing, I'm like, I can't, I gotta go. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.000 You got I'm like, man. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.039 It's a big waste of energy, but you gotta be 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.280 with your dog out there, man. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.800 But he was a temple violator. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:49.760 For sure. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.880 We didn't have none, like at least well, I've been 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.719 around some iconic temple violators, but my tenure here at 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.440 the Cowboy, we didn't really have the closest person I 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.839 say that was a temple violator would be elite. But 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:04.040 Malik Collins at the time still ball balling doing his work. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.440 But it was more so he wasn't a temple violator. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.600 He was just like, I promise you I'm gonna get 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.400 them before they get us. Now, the old Lineman temple 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:17.000 violet Travis, Frederick temple violate, Zach He temple violated, Tired. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.880 He wasn't a temple violator, but it was like he 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.320 was so stern where it'd be like, hey, big fellow, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.159 slow down just so I could do that. So I 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.599 gotta get ready to go work on him. But it's 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.640 like you knew somebody in that those interior three they 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.400 were gonna violate. Malik was gonna respond, and next thing 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.200 you know, we gotta scratch. And you look at Toddy 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.800 Crawford like, hey, you're good to that, he said, bro, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.320 I am trying to be a d n and not 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:40.960 in the middle of. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.720 Mary Nelly. He you know, he's gonna sit there and 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.600 hype you up. Brickler, let's go. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.279 Nick Days had the nick names for everybody. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.919 Man. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.080 So practice going on right now. George Pickens is fine. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.880 It was video yesterday George got cramps, so it was 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.440 cramps out there and training, can't It takes a minute 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.800 to get the body even though people you should be 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.560 ready to shape is different, thank you all. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.279 It's completely different. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.560 All shaped different, different type of training, get your body rolling. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.920 And then of course, as you talked about new guy, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.719 new team, trying to make it impression every reap. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.360 Now Ralph Chrispy. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.000 Everything, he's already been known to be like that hard 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.279 working guy. So like coming in and approving yourself. It's like, 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.760 calm down, baby, Like we got a loan, we don't, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.520 we don't need that from you, play maker, ain't you 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:39.720 ain't the young guy over here. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:40.479 Just slow it down. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.520 And that cramp when it gets you, you know, especially 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.360 that kind of intense level, it hurt. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:44.640 Man. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.719 Right right now, what he. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.280 Said, come get me, come give me. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:52.120 You good. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.240 Yeah, just grab it. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.640 You gotta make it look good. Hey, Jim, come get. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.840 What sucks is when everybody comes around you and you're like, bro, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.120 don't need all y'all around me. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.800 It's a cramp. But you got to play it off. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.120 That's what happened. That's what happened on the video. You know, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:13.240 you think, all right, it was just cramp. Everybody in 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:14.080 the locker room laughing. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.320 But when you're down there and that happens to you, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.200 so like, that's happened to me. I had a I 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.040 had what we called total recall, with every muscle in 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.800 my bike, upset for my heart basically, and like, I 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.280 just remember, everything was cool. It was actually actually after 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.640 practice one day. You get him during practice, but I 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.080 just remember this one day in particular, we was walking 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.000 from practice to go to the cafeteria to get some food, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.440 and I just remember telling somebody like, hey man, some. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:43.280 Don't feel right. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.560 I woke up on the ivy table. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.800 A little bit later, like ive's on both arms. I 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.000 had to get six bags. Six bags. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.840 We was in San Antonio. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.960 Hey, I love it. I need that perspective. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.240 But once again, you was in a differ from the 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.840 era of training camps were talking about three of days 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.200 too hard practice, not to mention that long meeting all 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:07.920 days come on. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.080 It's a little different like he went through an era. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.240 I went through an air like they this is day 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.480 one day to cramping. I'm not about to minimalize it 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:21.320 and say it was soft like it happened the same. No, no, no, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.960 I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it wasn't as 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.720 bad and it wasn't as good. Just get ready for 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:26.320 the camp. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:26.720 We good. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.480 But that right there, that's that was That was the 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:30.560 camp days was crazy. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.959 It some more camp news out here, Tyrone Blair, I 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.840 mean drown Blaine, I should said drawn Bland, not practice. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.839 His wife's having a baby, so congratulations, Yes, the right 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.600 thing to dude. Go ahead and handle your business out there. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.679 One player, a couple of players at Brian Shottenheimer S's 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:51.480 been pressed by day one ceedee lamb of course, Luke 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.800 Schoonmaker school here three got to see something out of 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.559 school and Donovan as a rocket second round draft pick 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.200 and it's been kid out of Boston College number two 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:02.720 out there. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.480 Yeah, yeah, my pick, that's my pick. That might be 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.559 your cute dog brother. Go ahead and do whatever you're 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:08.960 gonna do. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.480 But I told you that what he said, I had 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.240 to scoop that was a player. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.280 Bet on the dog. I get it as you should. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.400 You what you say, he gonna be a good dog 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:19.360 and you gotta leave him. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.840 Sometimes you gotta make him drink, and he's drinking out there. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:22.080 See. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.240 What I don't understand is how can you judge the 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.000 trenches with nothing, with no pet. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.439 Under I've seen uh they talking about te the guy. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.360 Oh man, he looks good, looks like he got some 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.760 the bricks in his pocket. Man, boys, ain't got no 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.600 pas on, no bullets. You know what I'm saying, Like 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.559 you dipping and ripping you ain't. Ain't nobody trying to 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.600 said something about Turban. I've seen it. Just before I 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.520 came in here, i was on my phone. He was saying, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.880 like Turban hit the corner and. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.200 He was out like this, And I'm like, I ain't 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.000 got no pazz on, Like he's gonna runs hard in 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.320 freege fast. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:59.960 Ain't nobody putting like you're right to certain to stand. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.200 But let's not get it misconstrueded. It's certain guys where 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.120 you come in and you see them college level of 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.760 the pro level, where you're like hold. 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.400 On like he's doing the bag drills. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.960 Right, He's not like coasting, but it looks fired like 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.440 he's doing that. Like his man plays is there, Like 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.000 it's look fluid where you're like, hey, he looks good. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.680 But then also you sit there and tell yourself like 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:20.960 we ain't got on pass. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.480 Let's see if he still look good like that. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.200 But what that being said like for for something right now, 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.240 you got to have a bright spot when you're saying 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.000 your main guy, Michael Parsons is not there. You're bringing 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.280 in another veteran guy that they just signed in Jamie Houston. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.920 You're talking about the other guys coming off injuries, like right, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.680 all the all them guys, like yeah, my second round 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.880 is coming in there, and he's leading. He's a he's 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.839 a leader amongst men, and the show that you're a 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.320 leader this early in the game. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.600 I think that vets very well, especially in the Eberflus defense. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.600 If that makes it we're not just we pros now, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.000 y'all know they're not just giving out pack pancakes just 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:56.960 for pancakes. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.199 Yeah, so. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:00.920 Shot shot. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.880 He kind of seems like he's gonna be hey, hey, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.080 the glass half fool guy and go look for the positive. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.240 It's gonna bring out the positive. He's talking to the media. Hey, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.400 this player flash, So I can see that. But there's 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:14.440 I found in covering cowboys. There's different levels. It's the 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:20.120 underwear Olympics level. Then it's the pads are popping, the 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:24.880 all ox Nart level. Good out there, Oxnar baby. Next 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.800 thing you get to a preseason game, can't nobody finds 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.560 you on take getting blown out? 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.640 Where was this passes? Danny A Mondola was that guy. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.280 When Danny Amadola was here, man, everybody was hyping him 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.840 up preseason game. Man could catch punt, did nothing. They 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.840 ended up cutting him and he went on. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.400 He became him that guy being here right. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:47.680 Here. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.720 It didn't happen that way. So I said, all ox Gnar. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.840 The dudes out here kicking field goals, looking good preseason 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.840 game and shaking the left and right. So I said 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.840 the all ox Nard level. And and then it's the 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:04.240 the guys who are preseason ballers. Looked okay, can't look 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.000 all right? Next thing the lights are on, oh, making plays, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.120 making plays. So those are the levels for me. It's 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.160 as far as covering the team. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.280 I've seen you have. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.480 Those levels and even with those levels, there are some 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.520 guys where it's like you need them to hit those markers, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.439 like because if they don't hit none of those markers, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.040 we're gonna be sitting here at the end when it's 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.000 time to get to that rockter spot and be like, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.400 he didn't do none of this beforehand. So right now 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.880 he's checking off the boxes. But I mean, like you said, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.600 nobody got on pads right now. Sunday they get there 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:35.280 and Sunday and. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:36.320 A good example of that. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.360 You know, this is my guy tolderd. So last year 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.600 he was can't He's taking that next step. He's that guy. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.400 He's grabbing it off the sky. He's climbing the ladder. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.600 He's doing this in no CDs. He looks look at it. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.079 Number two. He could be that number two. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.520 He could be the Robin Man. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.600 We get to the bright lights, my magic can clamp. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:58.720 But can't help me. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.720 You can't get out. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:01.480 As much as we put it out there that you said, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.160 Shoty is a guy that is a half full type 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.960 of guy. I feel like he's giving those shout outs 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.400 in the media because I feel like he's being real 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.880 and transparent what you have to be with the America's 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.120 team in the media, but also on those clips that 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.720 I've seen him in practice, I seen him yelling at people, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.560 get up, run, we can't have this. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:19.720 Oh, you make a mistake. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:24.000 So I wonder is he really is he being as 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.679 nice as we're sending in the media, or if he's 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:26.800 really judging those guys. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.520 So here's what my job in the media is going 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.040 to be is to start to dissect how a shoddy 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.080 press conference is what he says means. Jimmy was that 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.079 way when I covered Jimmy. Jimmy would tell you and 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.079 he would talk. He would use the media to talk 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.360 to guys. Parcels would do it too. Jason Garrett didn't 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.160 use the media to deliver his message. What you got 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.000 from Jason was what he didn't say about a player. 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.120 Hey, what do you think about Zach? 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.360 You talk about a guy that comes and brings it 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.000 every night, the right kind of football? Hey what about 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:02.120 so and so he's work and he's trying to That's 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:02.360 what you. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:04.920 Again down. 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.719 So it's what Jason didn't say was always where I knew, Okay, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.560 was he really he would he wouldn't kill a player. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.079 But what he wouldn't say about the player versus the 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.040 effusive praise of another guy. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.200 So that's how I started to figure out what was Jason. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.640 So which one you think shot is gonna be? 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:22.840 I gotta find out. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.480 So when I get out there and just start to 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:29.320 see after a while, and you'll see, like with Steven, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.240 we like our guys now, bro, when we see the 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.800 perceiving coin no good and you want to tell me, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.320 I like our guys like due you okay. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.880 Don't nobody see that we're coming along good? 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.000 Like that curtain Steve Steven will sit up there, and 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.040 I've learned how to d coole who ain't really working, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.200 and how Steven's trying to cover for guys. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.240 So would you say that mister Jones is technically learning 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.560 from the Jimmy Playbook and stuff like that and trying 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.400 to use the media right now to talk to guys 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:03.320 like antagonize, trep the thing, like to get a fire 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.760 up under them. Some of he's the former player. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.760 Some of Jerry's stuff is just transparent. You go back 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.240 to with Amari Cooper, when Amari Cooper missed time because 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.560 he didn't get the shot. Yeah, Covie, he'd let you 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.560 know he wasn't happy about it. He told all of 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.320 us people need to be getting a shot. I don't 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.440 want nobody ra he Jerry very plain about it, and 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:21.520 Cooper gotten the dog house. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.200 He ended up cutting it, traded. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.600 Him, so they ended up getting rid of him. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:26.240 Uh. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.480 He let you know unequivocally, you got that bag, and 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.600 only a certain amount of people rut here getting the bag. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:33.640 We expect you to be here. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.480 Then he goes and he pulls out the Hey, Damon 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.560 sand is in the weight room. I damn I need 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.360 you here. So his whole press conference was about I'm 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.200 not happy with you digs, the whole micah thing. That's 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.080 just guess what crossfire. No, this is Jerry hey man, 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.840 you know this is what I do with these contracts. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.680 And Dad had to go through. It had to go through. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.440 It will make you better, you always said your term. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.440 Jerry is not pressed about what anybody else is doing, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.080 like peer and then like people always say, we're like yo, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.840 if he get this deal done, he might get the 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.520 deal done, and he might not have to pay somebody 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.120 so much more than he's gonna have to do because 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.520 everybody else is getting these deal done ahead of these guys. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.840 He don't care about that. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:12.360 And I wouldn't need it. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:17.480 Like what it's like they say, what ain't fixed, you know, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.680 if it ain't broken, don't fix. And in his his mindset, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.880 it's like, this is what's got me here to the top. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.480 I've been at the lowest lows and build it all 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.000 all the way up to the highs and highs and 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:27.640 what's got. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:28.040 Me to the highs? 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.960 Hies right here. I'm not gonna change. The game is 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.720 still the same, just like they say. The shield is 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:33.320 still the same. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.880 And he also likes stirring the pot. Does not want 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.520 Is you not to care? That's his number one thing. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.600 Love him, hate him? Long talk by them cowboys, put 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:47.800 it on your little TV. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:50.760 But I like it. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.560 And he will at times say stuff that he knows 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.520 he shouldn't. Remember when Dak was hurting Cooper Rush was 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.120 having a good run, talk about that. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.680 Be nice if we were talking about a quarterback controversy. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.240 And then McCarthy not used to this, And so. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.399 Then you saw McCarthy out there like, oh gosh, I 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.879 gotta deal with this here He's. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.760 Gonna throw that little bomb and walk out there, and 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.119 that's him, that's him, No, you know, this is who he. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.000 So you have to learn to do what I thought 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.439 ceed Lamb did a great job when he's on the 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.960 podium talking, yeah, I want Mikey to get paid. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:28.760 This is not fun. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.359 I've gone through it, and so we make like, look, dude, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.480 I've been in the circus about the money thing. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.680 You really can't worry about. I've been there. It's not fun. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.280 I hope he gets his bad I'm not participating in it. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:45.280 And he played chess not checking, and you could you 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.000 could have been up there and be brothers in on 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.440 him because I didn't got a tag. You get a taging. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.440 So it's funny. That's about the how the media is 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:53.000 trying to swing. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:54.760 So let's let's let's get a break here. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.920 Let's get a break here, and and when we come back, 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.880 when I ask you guys, and then think about this true. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.120