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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John, the og story

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Speaker 2: Oh you, I met someone from a dating app and

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Speaker 2: then he swindled my father. What This is a weird

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Speaker 2: way to get your parents involved in your dating life. I,

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Speaker 2: thirty two female, am a registered nurse in southern California.

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Speaker 2: The individual thirty five male, who I will refer to

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Speaker 2: as Henry, stated that he worked as an er doctor

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Speaker 2: at a large hospital in Los Angeles and went to

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Speaker 2: USC kech for medical school. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: from angro Wica on the Okay Storytime Separated. So we

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Speaker 2: met on the dating app Hinge in June of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, and we dated since then up until the

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Speaker 2: end of September twenty twenty four. The victims in my

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Speaker 2: story are myself my father, who is eighty years old.

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Speaker 2: This man primarily targets healthcare workers, specifically nurses, but it

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Speaker 2: could be anyone Besides our very similar occupations. Henry and

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Speaker 2: I shared many common interests and I quickly fell in

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Speaker 2: love with this man as I had believed he did

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Speaker 2: with me. We both liked camping, traveling, off roading, and

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Speaker 2: our boats of Latino Hispanic. He was very loving, honest

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Speaker 2: about his past and struggles, and we spent a lot

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Speaker 2: of time together. We grew very close, very quickly, and

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Speaker 2: it really seemed like I had found my other half.

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Speaker 2: His love and affection was obvious to me and everyone

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Speaker 2: around me, so much so that when he took me

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Speaker 2: on a vacation that he paid for to Mexico, a

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Speaker 2: random couple walked up to us to compliment how lovely

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Speaker 2: of a couple we were and how much we could

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Speaker 2: tell this man was in love with me. Everything seemed

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Speaker 2: great until about one month in, when it seemed like

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Speaker 2: all of the sudden in his life was giving him

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Speaker 2: a constant streak of bad luck. His dad broke his arm,

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Speaker 2: which was important since his dad owns a roofing business.

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Speaker 2: One of Henry's investments that he shared with his dad

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Speaker 2: had gone south. We still had fun together, and while

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Speaker 2: I see now that this was a super red flag,

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I was in danger to the

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Speaker 2: point that I needed to leave the relationship, since it

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Speaker 2: was great in many other ways. Though I felt he

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Speaker 2: had some anger problems he needed to go to therapy

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Speaker 2: to work out. I felt like it was something that

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Speaker 2: could be managed, as we always got through whatever issues

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Speaker 2: we had. I know now that this anger was just

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Speaker 2: a form of him gaslighting me in order to manipulate

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Speaker 2: me and make me stick around. I eventually introduced him

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Speaker 2: to my parents, who quickly became enamored with him too,

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Speaker 2: and everything just continued as it was since I first

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Speaker 2: met him. Henry always spoke about his plans of someday

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Speaker 2: opening up an urgent care so that he could one

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Speaker 2: day retire early and be able to spend time with

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Speaker 2: his future family and kids. He spoke how great it

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Speaker 2: would be if that was something that we we could

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Speaker 2: open up together, given our similar occupations. I told him

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Speaker 2: I had plans to eventually return to a school to

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Speaker 2: become a nurse practitioner, and he said that he would

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Speaker 2: support me every day he could so that I could

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Speaker 2: seemed like a hardworking person who had traversed a lot

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Speaker 2: say to make me fall for him. It seemed like

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Speaker 2: a beyond perfect match, both romantically and professionally, given that

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Speaker 2: he was a doctor and I am a nurse. I

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Speaker 2: don't like that doctor is a quotes there. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: but I mean we can all kind of assume where

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Speaker 2: this is going. Fast forward a few months into my

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Speaker 2: question if he really was a doctor or if all

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Speaker 2: of his stories were true. When someone lies, eventually things

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Speaker 2: just start to not add up. He always had some

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Speaker 2: type of financial crisis come up that would cause him stress,

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Speaker 2: and he used this to rationalize the verbal abuse he

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Speaker 2: would eventually put me through later in the relationship. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: that's so stupid, because like there's literally nothing that's gonna

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Speaker 2: rationalize that. Like I understand, you know, if you get

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Speaker 2: whoever your partner is like and I'm going I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: get loud. It's not about you. Then like you can

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Speaker 2: maybe make that work, depending on if your partner's okay

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Speaker 2: be a difficult and non supportive partner at times. By

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Speaker 2: and this was demonstrated by the fact that on numerous

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Speaker 2: with him because he had anger issues. This is intense, man, dang.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I mentioned breaking up with him, my parents defended him,

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Speaker 2: make this relationship work because I would not find another

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Speaker 2: to listen to because what like, because so many abusive relationships,

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Speaker 2: what they do is they pit you against your partner

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Speaker 2: like everyone else in your life, and they're like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the problem. Everyone else is the problem here.

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Speaker 2: But what this is like, I've never heard of a

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Speaker 2: is not something I've ever heard of, and that's insane.

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Speaker 2: This not only made it very difficult for me to

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Speaker 2: eventually found out the truth about this man after he

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Speaker 2: decided to add me as a user onto his sleep

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Speaker 2: don't like where this is going. I see us in

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Speaker 2: the chat. I hate this, Oh my gosh. On this day,

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Speaker 2: He claimed to work Monday through Friday five am to

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Speaker 2: My heart sank and I knew at that point that

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Speaker 2: all the suspicion I had in my heart about this

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Speaker 2: I guess I guess he could easily do that. That

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Speaker 2: gonna give me trust is shoes, Sorry, Riley. He asked

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, sixty thousand dollars to this poor man,

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Speaker 2: that he was. This is so sad. Behind my back

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Speaker 2: the false pretenses that he would be using this money

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Speaker 2: as a down payment on an urgent care? On an

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Speaker 2: was certain that I was the woman of his dreams

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Speaker 2: if op was like opening an urgent care or something.

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Speaker 2: She mentioned something like that, I'm not a remembering the

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Speaker 2: So I guess I guess that makes sense then why

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Speaker 2: you know, but if he's like, you know, this is

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Speaker 2: Hi, redd it. I would really like some advice if

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Speaker 2: absolutely not, Like you're not gonna change if you don't

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Speaker 2: that to be like an okay example, like that he

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Speaker 2: I got it anyway. He has been super lovey dovey

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Speaker 2: to see them. When my boyfriend and I had the

437
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: conversation that I brought up two weeks ago, I told

438
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 2: him that I wasn't sure if it was a good

439
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: idea for me to come out to see them. My

440
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: boyfriend had also told me that on his way to

441
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 2: his mom's airbnb, he forgot my birthday card at his place.

442
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: Ultimately decided that he would buy the tickets. I learned

443
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 2: that he doesn't know my middle name through this process

444
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 2: because he needed it to buy tickets. I told him

445
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 2: to send me the money and I would get the tickets.

446
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 2: So since getting the tickets, I've felt even more distanced

447
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: from my boyfriend. I feel like he didn't listen to me.

448
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair to him for me to

449
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 2: feel this way and stay with him. Yes, that was

450
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 2: a great thing that you just said. I don't think

451
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 2: it's fair to him for me to feel this way

452
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: and stay with it. Oh, I guess the fair to

453
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: him part. I don't care about him, but like, it's

454
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: not fair to you to feel this way and stay

455
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: with him that's what I thought you were saying originally,

456
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 2: it's not fair to yourself to feel that way and

457
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: stay in that situation. Yeah, yeah, it's just not fair.

458
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: At this point, I'm not even sure if I should go,

459
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 2: but I would hate to disappoint his mom, So I

460
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 2: guess I'm really asking would I be the a hole

461
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: if I broke up with my boyfriend and canceled the

462
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 2: flights because I'm not sure if this is a sustainable

463
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: relationship and there is an update, a big update, But

464
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: what is our answer that.

465
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: You better have walked out of their asap.

466
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,239
Speaker 4: I better see we broke up not Oh, and then

467
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 4: he gave me this and gave me that, like, yeah,

468
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 4: these are clear signs of a very not good relationship.

469
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's it's just not good. In

470
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: the story that I read before, I mentioned the phrase

471
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 2: I've brought up like quite a few times at this

472
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: point that I don't trust I observe, you know what

473
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean. You can hear all his lovey dovey messages

474
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: and whatever he says, but you have to, you know,

475
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: hear that say thank you or whatever, and then keep

476
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 2: an eye open, okay, because that doesn't patch the wound

477
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: of whatever he did before.

478
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, she sent me with that a lot of times.

479
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: Well, I've brought it up in comor when we read stories,

480
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: and I brought it up with him because I had

481
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: been given that advice. And then I realized through observation

482
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: that he was actually a good person, this guy right here.

483
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: So I yeah, so it's true. It works. So you

484
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: can find people with that.

485
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yep.

486
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 4: They all live in Taylor'sville, North Carolina and work at

487
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 4: a sawmill.

488
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: Ye only it's the only kind of good man out there. No.

489
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: But but if you think that this is not a

490
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: sustainable relationship, and if you feel distant from him, and

491
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: if you feel hurt and like he doesn't maybe not

492
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: care about you or something like that, then you don't

493
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: need to meet his mom.

494
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna break up.

495
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 2: With them anyway, you know what I mean. So might

496
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: as well just do this and not go through all

497
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: the pain of like still being around him and then

498
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: meeting his mom. You know, if this is an awful guy,

499
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: then maybe his mom is not the best either, you

500
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So we're just gonna jump right

501
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: into this update now. Okay, but now for the update,

502
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a long update, but you guys

503
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: helps me a lot. So here it goes. Two days ago,

504
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: I broke up with my now ex boyfriend, canceled the

505
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: flights and sent him the money for the tickets. Yes,

506
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, thank goodness, Oh wow, thank I that

507
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: is the best thing you could have said.

508
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 5: Hopey wow.

509
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: Your comments have helped me tremendously through this process. I

510
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: didn't realize how bad of a situation I was in

511
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: the realization of how he's been treating me really set in.

512
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: He reacted exactly as you all predicted. I waited until

513
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: around two thirty ish am, hoping he'd be asleep to

514
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: end the FaceTime call to sell him the plane ticket

515
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: money and send the message I quickly drafted to say

516
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm ending things between us. My phone started blowing up

517
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: minutes afterwards with messages and snapchats from him. Oh my gosh,

518
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: minutes so he wasn't asleep, like what. Most of them

519
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 2: just singular texts saying please, but also, I can't I

520
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: do this right now. I love you so much. I

521
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: can't out of nowhere. Don't forget about being and the

522
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: good times. I'm majorly freaking out of the bathroom Right now,

523
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: I can't stop shaking. I'm about to wake up my mom.

524
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: I wish you had come down. I was thinking how

525
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: beneficial it would have been for us to finally see

526
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: in person and talk some stuff out. The cycle of

527
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: him calling over and over again began to the point

528
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't use my phone. I gave in and answered,

529
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: although I unfortunately don't remember all of what he said

530
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: because I dissociated through the call. The dissociation when I'm

531
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: with him explains my lost memories. Lol. Oh my gosh, man,

532
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry girl. I wish I could give you

533
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: a hug. Oh my gosh. That is not a good

534
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: sign at all. So God, you're out of there now though.

535
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. All I can remember is I told

536
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: him it's final and I'm not changing my decision, and

537
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: him saying I can't believe I'm never going to hear

538
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 2: you say I love you again. Yeah, cry about it.

539
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I literally figure it out. Figure it

540
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: out all on your own. This isn't gonna make you

541
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: her stay okay. After the call, I got message, which

542
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: is the rest of the day. I feel like I

543
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: don't know who I am without you. I hope these

544
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: past few days, when you've told me you loved me,

545
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: you really meant it. Girl. Please block him. I hope

546
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: you block him. I haven't said or messaged anything to

547
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: him since the call ended, but I didn't block him

548
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: because one of you commented his behavior might worsen if

549
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: I did that, and truthfully, in this specific situation, it

550
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: seemed better not to block. It's saying his behavior might worsen.

551
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: That could go two ways. That could go into harming

552
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: himself or harming her, So if it's harming her, it's

553
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: probably better to not block. Obviously, you don't want him

554
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: to harm himself, but at a certain point with breakups,

555
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: I think a lot of manipulative people threaten that to

556
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: make you stay. But all you have to do is

557
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: call authorities and then move on because that is not

558
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: your responsibility. You can find other people who can take

559
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: responsibility of that. But I'm so glad that you're at

560
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: least not responding to any of these things, because that's

561
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: really the whole reason you would want to block him,

562
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: is just so that you can't talk to him anymore.

563
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: But I'm glad that you are controlling yourself and not

564
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: talking to him anymore. As you can imagine, I haven't

565
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: really slept, and I have I've had a headache from crying.

566
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: It sucks because I do still care for him and

567
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: I love him. I still wish the best for him.

568
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Although I feel like I already warned this breakup and loss,

569
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: but I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. He's

570
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: had an fed up childhood and has been cheated on,

571
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: but that's not my responsibility to deal with, and his

572
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: projecting isn't acceptable either. That's right, girlfriend, Oh my gosh,

573
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: get yes, I'm so happy that you said that, because

574
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: that's absolutely not your responsibility. There's no way if someone

575
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: has been cheated on in the past and then they

576
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: bring it into this their current relationship with you or whoever,

577
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 2: and is like, well you have to do all this

578
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: to make up for my past, It's like no, not really.

579
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, you don't want to cheat on them,

580
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: don't cheat on them, but like, you don't have to

581
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: like do all these things because they have a crazy

582
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: trust now or something like that, like a lack of trust.

583
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: That's their problem, girl, that's their problem. I'm so glad

584
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: you left that to him. My ex had the gifts

585
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: that I got for his mom, and when he gave

586
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: them to her, she sent me this message. Hello, dear,

587
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: I just opened the gift bag from you, and I'm

588
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: totally blown over by your generosity. I'm in love with

589
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: the backpack. Only one thing could have made it better,

590
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: and that's if you were here with a bunch of

591
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: sad faces. I don't know how the heck I was

592
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: supposed to respond to that. I've gotten texts all during

593
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: the day from after my ex. Wait, no, I need

594
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: to pause on that, because she's doing the guilt tripping now.

595
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know he was saying all these things

596
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: about like being sad, but clearly we see where the

597
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: guilt tripping is from from his mother. So good thing

598
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: that you didn't have to do so, like I was

599
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: saying earlier, Good that you don't want to mean her

600
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: because he's just gonna She's just gonna be another version

601
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: of him in a lot of cases, not always, but

602
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: in a lot of cases. I've gotten texts all during

603
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: the day after from my ex. My heart aches for you.

604
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: All the love bombing. As you guys have taught me

605
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: in the comments, it really feels like I'm being thrown away.

606
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: My heart can't take this all day. Yesterday he messaged

607
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: me and snapped me, and I've been leaving him on

608
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: red ranged from You're the biggest part of my life

609
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: and my top priority. The only thing I've ever wanted

610
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: was to come home to you to do you just

611
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: want me to so for real, not talk to you

612
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: at all? Is it easy for you to not open

613
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: our chats and stuff? I don't get how you were

614
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: just able to do it. And please read and replied

615
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: later when you have time. I'm struggling and any message

616
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: back from you would do wonders. I guess I'll just

617
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: leave you alone. Please don't let the streak die. You

618
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: said you knew how much it meant to me. What

619
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: is the snap streak? You're saying like you know how

620
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: much snapstreak means to me, babe, you know. Don't let it.

621
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: Don't let it end. Don't let a snap streak end.

622
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh you poor poor man. I'm so sorry for you

623
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: and your lost snap streak. That is that is really

624
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: so sad, and my heart goes out to you. I

625
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: woke up this morning to snaps. I sincerely hope you

626
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: read this. Please acknowledge my existing. I never thought you'd

627
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: ignore me one day. It would also make it easier

628
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: to leave you alone like this. I don't know if

629
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: you've read anything. Please don't let the streak die. You've

630
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: said you knew how much it meant to me. I

631
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: just hope I wasn't replaced or thrown away this. I'm

632
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: devastated the text I got this morning. My little heart

633
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: is very broken.

634
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: Oh, your poor little heart. Oh, I'm so sorry.

635
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Your little heart deserves a very little violin. This is

636
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: truly my last message. I don't think you will ever

637
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: call me or text me back, so I won't bother

638
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: you anymore. It seems clear that you want me gone,

639
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: so I'm gone. I'll get the gifts to you because

640
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: my mom spent her money on it. I love you.

641
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: I loved every single moment with you, and I don't

642
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: think I will ever get over you. And now I

643
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: keep getting stat messages from him, see lying again. He

644
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: just keeps lying. I'm just getting more angry the fact

645
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: that he thinks that I just immediately replaced him. He

646
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: truly doesn't know me at all. Yes, I'm aware you

647
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: guys warned me and told me he doesn't care about

648
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: my feelings. It just sucks that I feel like I

649
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: was trying to be my best for him, and I

650
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: spent all this energy for him to expect me to

651
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: just move on. I don't know if he expects that.

652
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: It sounds like he's scared that you're doing that, and

653
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't want that either. But I mean, this is

654
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: just how relationships go. No one moves on immediately unless

655
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: they like, really weren't that into the relationship in the

656
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: first place, you know. So yeah, he's just being a

657
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: little cry baby and just doesn't want you to move on.

658
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: He probably knows that you didn't, and which is why

659
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: he thinks that all of these love bombings will still work.

660
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: I will say that I didn't set clear boundaries to

661
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: not contact me, but I did say that I needed

662
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: time away from him. But I have to forgive myself

663
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: for that because the message was a little sloppy and

664
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: I just wanted out. The airline wasn't able to refund

665
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: the money for the tickets, so I just canceled the

666
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: flights and sent him the money for my savings. Oh

667
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: that's nice of you, but I wish you didn't. I've

668
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: taken this time to reflect on the past three years.

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00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you were here together for three years. For

670
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: my twenty first birthday, I really wanted my boyfriend with me,

671
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: of course, to share the moment, but he ended up

672
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: driving down to his dad's for something, which was like

673
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: a six hour drive. It shouldn't really be that big

674
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: of a deal, but if I had known that it

675
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: was going to be the last birthday with my mom,

676
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: I would have been more focused on spending time with

677
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: her than the fact that my boyfriend couldn't just tell

678
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 2: his dad it was my birthday and I wanted him

679
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: there for my celebration party and he could drive down

680
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: there the day after after my mom passed, I ended

681
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: up getting COVID a month later, a boy which almost

682
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: took me out literally. My sister and I share an apartment,

683
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: but she basically lives at her boyfriend's, so I didn't

684
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: really have anyone to help me. I wasn't very financially

685
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: stable then, so the only thing I could do was

686
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: DoorDash liquid ivy. Oh gosh. I tried to drink liquids,

687
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: and I tried to eat what soups I had in

688
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: my kitchen cabinet. I couldn't function. The most I could

689
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: do was force myself to take a very hot shower,

690
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: and I had the kitchen stepped stool to sit on

691
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: because I could barely stand to walk to the bathroom.

692
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. After the shower, I would wrap in

693
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: a towel and sit on the bathroom floor until I

694
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: could muster the energy to get back to bed. My

695
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: hair was matted because of the multiple showers without brushing.

696
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: I was dealing with nausea that I've never even come

697
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: close to feeling before. And only when I was finally

698
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: able to get a phone call appointment with a doctor

699
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: was I able to get some advice to get dramamine.

700
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: Thank God, because it's probably one of the only things

701
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: that got me through. It's the fact that I explained

702
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 2: my symptoms and the doctor said, oh, you got that

703
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: straight up COVID comforting. I was sick for like four

704
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: weeks before I could stand for more than two minutes

705
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: without running out of breath and feeling like collapsing. By

706
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: the end of it, I was eighty nine pounds oh,

707
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, because I couldn't keep anything down. My

708
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: ex told me that he wasn't really able to do

709
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: anything because he had tests in school and he couldn't

710
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: get sick, understandable. I suppose there's a lot that you

711
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: could do with dropping things off, like dropping things off

712
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: wearing a freaking hazmat suit, like literally get a hazmat suit.

713
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I would. I would absolutely just mask up, get wear

714
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: gloves and drop off food or do anything that is

715
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: so sad, because I guess sure that's understandable. But if

716
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: you really don't have anything, and your partner is telling

717
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: you that you love they love you, and they're not

718
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: even like trying to help, They're just like I don't

719
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: want to get sick, you know, like that's that's tough. Man.

720
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: He drove to my apartment once and brought me Chinese

721
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: food from our local grocery store and stood on the

722
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: sidewalk away from my front door while I grabbed the food.

723
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: See you, he facetimed me. Every now and then. I

724
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: really have to shout out my neighbor for helping me

725
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: survive through it. I had pet sat her cat previously,

726
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: so she messaged me asking if I was okay because

727
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: she noticed my car hadn't moved in like a week

728
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: and a half. Oh wow, good move on the neighbor

729
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: for checking out or looking out for her dang. I

730
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: worked six out of the seven days of the week

731
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: and early mornings late evening, so the fact that she

732
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: noticed my car and not moving made me feel noticed.

733
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's really so sweet. I told her I had COVID,

734
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: and she immediately asked if I needed anything. She got

735
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: me meds and anything I needed put it outside my door,

736
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: and I honestly can't thank her enough. It was such

737
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: a tough time for me, but I'm alive. That's right, Op,

738
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: you are. You got through it. When I finally was

739
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: testing negative, my neighbor asked me if there was anything

740
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: that I thought I could keep down. The only thing

741
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: I could think of was olive garden soup and salad.

742
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: So I geared up with gloves and a mask in

743
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: long sleeves just in case. She brought me to Olive

744
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: Garden and I was able to eat two menistrown soups

745
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: and some salad. This neighbor is now one of my

746
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: closest friends and part of my support system, especially now

747
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: for this experience. The list goes on from my ex

748
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: has done, but I don't know why I stayed after

749
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: I had to tell him I was deleting life. Three sixtyeks.

750
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like it was just for safety. Yeah, well,

751
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: hindsight is twenty twenty. Don't be too hard on yourself.

752
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: Reading over your comments has made me been able to

753
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: really reflect on this relationship and pinpoint some specific moments

754
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: of his gaslighting, insecurities and whatnot. The list goes on

755
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: for why I want you guys to check out more

756
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Speaker 2: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

757
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, story time,

758
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: lots of good stories and hopefully good advice from us.

759
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: We'll do our best, and there is a little bit more.

760
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: So let's just jump right into it ready. Community. Thank

761
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: you so much. I knew I had to leave, but

762
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: I think I just really needed that push, and you

763
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: guys helped me with that. My dad used to always

764
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: tell me that people will someday take advantage of my kindness,

765
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: and I didn't really understand until now. I've recently just

766
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: finished the Throne of Glass book series, and the thing

767
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: I keep thinking about is when it Aileen's mom told her,

768
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: you do not yield, and Aileen kept telling herself that

769
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: from then on, my situation isn't to the extent of

770
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: what her character went through. But it's the quote that

771
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: I keep telling myself. I do not yield to people

772
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: trying to make me lower than them. The path to

773
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: a very long healing journey starts here. Again. Thank you

774
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: guys for all of your comments, support and bluntness. Thank

775
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: you for the stories you guys have shared with personal experience.

776
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: I hope you guys are doing better now. They've been

777
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: helping me keep strong through all of this, reminding me

778
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: why I have to leave for myself. That is the

779
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: end of that story, Sam.

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's

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782
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Speaker 5: I came out with my fiance to my parents and

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Speaker 5: now they want to send me to conversion camp. Just

784
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Speaker 5: a smelly, smelly move on the part of your parents.

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Speaker 2: Ugh.

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Speaker 5: And before we continue on here, there is a trigger warning.

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Speaker 1: These parents in this.

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Speaker 5: Story areobic and if that dynamic between a parent and

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Speaker 5: go ahead and skip this story and head to another one.

791
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: So am Ida hole for not wanting anything to do

792
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: with my family. I female nineteen, just came out to

793
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Speaker 5: my family about being the g NLGBTQ and I'm sorry people.

794
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 5: I really want to be able to say that right now,

795
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Speaker 5: but we're having some monetization issues with these words, which

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Speaker 5: is not up to us. So for starters, I was

797
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: adopted into a pretty religious household. My biological mom couldn't

798
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: take care of me and had to give me up

799
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: A year after she did, my family adopted me. By

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00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: So my childhood was okay, but my parents were and

804
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 5: still are very religious. My family is very well known

805
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 5: in the community since my dad is a pastor for

806
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: the church. My friend and now fiance, female twenty we

807
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: met during church and instantly hit it off. We did

808
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: everything together and I could tell that I started having

809
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: feelings for her in ninth grade. I knew she liked

810
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: me back because she told me a couple weeks beforehand.

811
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: High school was okay. I was in a couple of sports,

812
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 5: but I mostly liked soccer. Most of my friends came

813
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: to all my practices and games, and I liked that

814
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: I could tell she actually cared. So during the summer

815
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: before eleventh grade, my friend invited me to go with

816
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: her family to Hawaii, and of course my parents were

817
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: okay with it, so I was very excited. For the

818
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: whole week leading up to the trip, me and my

819
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: friend went clothes shopping and basically spent that.

820
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: Whole week doing that.

821
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: Well. Two days before we had to leave, we were

822
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: at the mall again and I was trying on swimsuits

823
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 5: or trying to find one that fit me. I was

824
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: and still am, very athletic, but also skinny. So my

825
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 5: then friend came into the changing room to help me

826
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 5: tie the top, and she basically gave me a little

827
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 5: smooch and that started the whole being together thing. Fast

828
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 5: forward to now, me and my fiance have been together

829
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: for about two years and her parents know and are

830
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: very supportive. So I figured it was time that I

831
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 5: told my parents I'm not living at home because I'm

832
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 5: going to college. So I texted my mom and asked

833
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: if it was okay if my dad, her and me

834
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 5: and Hannah, my fiance, could go out to dinner, and

835
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 5: my mom agreed, since her and my dad haven't seen

836
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: me since I left for my freshman year of college.

837
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: A couple months ago. Oh and by the way, my

838
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 5: parents are paying for my college. I hope they don't

839
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: hold that over Opie's head.

840
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Oops.

841
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 5: So the day comes around and me and Hannah go

842
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: to the restaurant and meet my parents. Of course, my

843
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 5: parents are happy to see me and Hannah, so we

844
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 5: sit down and eat, and everything was.

845
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Going smoothly until dessert.

846
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: My mom asked me why I wanted to do this

847
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 5: dinner with them, so abruptly, I looked at her and

848
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 5: basically said that I needed to tell them something, and

849
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 5: of course my mom went straight to you're pregnant. I

850
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 5: told her, no, I'm not actually funny story about that

851
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: crazy story though, you're not actually gonna believe it.

852
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: Ooh. She looked relieved and said, okay, what is it.

853
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: Then I looked at her and said, I'm not straight,

854
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 5: and I've known since high school. The look on my parents'

855
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: face was like they got hit by a freight train.

856
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: I looked down because I didn't want to look them

857
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 5: in the eyes. My mom, after a few minutes, started

858
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 5: making a scene, crying and yelling at me, saying that

859
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: I'm a disgrace and everything else under the book, and

860
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: that she raised my siblings and I better. I was

861
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 5: crying at this point, which is understandable, ope, and my

862
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: dad was quiet. I looked over at Hannah and she

863
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 5: showed my parents the ring and they both turned red

864
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 5: in the face, which, honestly, gotta love that, Yo. These

865
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: people deserve to be made uncomfortable and you don't need them. Yeah,

866
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: if your parents can't accept you for who you are,

867
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 5: you don't have to accept them either. You are free

868
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: to be your own person, to live your life as

869
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 5: long as you're not hurting.

870
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Anybody, that's right.

871
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: My mom just stormed out and my dad followed her,

872
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 5: and I was just sitting there, stunned and crying. Luckily

873
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: Hannah was there. So fast forward to about last Saturday.

874
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: I didn't speak or hear from my parents since Wednesday,

875
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: and out of the blue, my mom texted me saying, Elizabeth,

876
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: we raised you better than this, and we want to

877
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: send you to a conversion camp and we're going to

878
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 5: pay for it. I just stared at that text for

879
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: a couple of hours before responding and basically yelled at

880
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 5: my mom and cussed at her, told her that I'm

881
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 5: not going to change for them, and that if they

882
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 5: can't accept me for who I am.

883
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: They are no longer my parents. I mean, ya exactly.

884
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 5: If they go through, if this is how they feel,

885
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: then I will never speak to them again. And I

886
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 5: blocked her number. It's been a week now, and I'm

887
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 5: wondering if I overstepped by saying that. Am I the

888
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: a hole? Or did I respond the right way. I

889
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: will give an update at some point, but I just

890
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 5: can't get the feeling out of my head that I overreacted. Also,

891
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 5: do I talk to my dad because he's not blocked,

892
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 5: but he hasn't said anything to me, or hasn't messaged

893
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: me or called me.

894
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: And there is an update? John, Wow, Yes, what what.

895
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 5: Kind of behavior would we classify the parents as?

896
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: Right now?

897
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: I mean, we gotta be sent through some orc clouds.

898
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 6: We got we gotta get some some ethereal spaghetti in there.

899
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: It's gotta be eaten by.

900
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 6: James Gandolfini his pigs, his pigs almost, I said, James Gandolphini, Right,

901
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 6: James Gandler.

902
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: The spirit of him resides within the jail, inside the

903
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 5: black hole that runs even the spaghetti icee, icee, And

904
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 5: we are going to see right now, we got the update,

905
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 5: My dad texted me and basically said that they are

906
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: no longer going to be paying for anything for me.

907
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: Ah ah, and there it is.

908
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: He said that they called the university and told them

909
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: they were no longer paying my tuition, and then he

910
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: said they're no longer paying my car bill or my

911
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: cell phone and are taking me off their insurance. I

912
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: kind of expected this to happen, but what he said

913
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: after words hurt me so much. I'm crying and I

914
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 5: just want to hide away from the world. He said

915
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: they only adopted me to give me a better life

916
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 5: outside my home country where I was born. He said

917
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: that they supported me when they didn't need to, and

918
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: that he expects to be paid back all the money

919
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: he spent on me.

920
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 6: I want to go on a time machine and tell

921
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 6: you to never talk to your dad and run.

922
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: If I'm the wife and I hear him say that,

923
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, so I'm leaving you.

924
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: I guess like I mean, but I was probably like yeah, yeah,

925
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: right exactly.

926
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: His wife's probably right behind him like yeah, you tell it,

927
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 5: you tell it like it is.

928
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Husband. Just honestly, like there.

929
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 6: I truly wish there was a law that's like that

930
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 6: would these these parents need some jail time.

931
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: They need to be scared strong.

932
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: I think you should go to jail if you adopt

933
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: somebody and then literally are just like yeah, I mean,

934
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: I just did it because I wanted to feel good

935
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 5: about myself, I guess.

936
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: And now that you.

937
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: Don't live the way I want you to, you owe

938
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 5: me your upbringing. You have to pay me back for.

939
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: That sending an invoice, dude, come.

940
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: Trash, never coming back from that. Yes, so if I

941
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 5: don't pay him, he's going to get me to the

942
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 5: place where I belong. What does that mean? Is that

943
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: an ambiguous threat?

944
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it is.

945
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: This hurts so much, knowing that I was never loved

946
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 5: and that they only adopted me for the money. I

947
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: don't even know what to do. I blocked him and

948
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: didn't say anything.

949
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: What should I do?

950
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: I feel like my whole life is effed up now,

951
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: and we have a second update.

952
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and dive right in. Let's do it.

953
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 5: I really don't know how to update you guys with

954
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: everything that has happened already. It's taken me by surprise,

955
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 5: and I'm not going to lie. I had a feeling

956
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 5: this was gonna happen, so I showed my uncle the

957
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 5: text messages from my dad his brother, and he's livid

958
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: and basically wants nothing to do with my father and mom. Also,

959
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: he said that I can stay with him if I

960
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 5: wanted to, and I took him up on that offer.

961
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: Cool Uncle, Yes, yes, go cool Uncle.

962
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: I also told my brothers and sent them screenshots of

963
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 5: the messages, and they aren't happy with our parents either.

964
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: I posted the message on the church's Google website and

965
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: also our town City Halls Facebook page YO and sent

966
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 5: it to the group chat with the rest of my family.

967
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Yes, honestly, they need to learn a lesson. Time for

968
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: some public shaming, let's go.

969
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 5: My fiance and I talked briefly about everything, and she

970
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: said that I need to have time alone to think

971
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 5: about everything, and well, me and my insecurities were right.

972
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 5: About seven hours later, she sent me a handful of

973
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: messages and I have screenshots of those. But I'll give

974
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: you guys a rundown me. Why are you talking to

975
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: my parents, you know, because of what they said, and

976
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 5: you're still talking to him per because I want them

977
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 5: to be a part of our life. Elizabeth. Maybe you

978
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: don't want that, but I do, so why can't you

979
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: accept that me? Are you e fing kidding me? No?

980
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 5: I don't want to accept that because of what they said.

981
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: But obviously you don't care about how I feel and

982
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 5: what's best for us. You only think about what's best

983
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 5: for you her. Are you serious? I do care about us, Lizzie.

984
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 5: I basically said that the wedding is about you, and

985
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 5: you went with it. I was there for you when

986
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: your grandparents passed away and when you found out that

987
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 5: your bio mom passed away. You don't get that I've

988
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: dropped everything for you in order to keep you happy.

989
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: I want your parents in my life because I respect

990
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: and like them. Me dot dot dot her really dots?

991
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 5: Where are you so we can talk about this? This

992
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 5: is all, by the way, wild that this is her fiance. Yeah,

993
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: I'm I'm totally lost. This is why is the fiance

994
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 5: on the parent's side right now?

995
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: How could you ever side with them?

996
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 5: I don't like, however, I don't know, like they hate

997
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 5: you exactly like they would want you. They want to

998
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 5: send you to conversion camp. And She's like, I like

999
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 5: and what I like and respect them. They're say, trying

1000
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: to hate crime you? Yes, Like this is crazy?

1001
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Uh?

1002
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Me.

1003
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm driving and I don't want to talk about it

1004
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: right now.

1005
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 5: I don't think it's best that we talk about it

1006
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: in person, because obviously you want them in your life

1007
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 5: more than you want me in your life, and it

1008
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 5: feels like you don't want me to be your wife.

1009
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 5: So have fun with your new parents, because I'm done her. Elizabeth,

1010
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 5: Please don't say that. I do want you as my

1011
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: wife and I want you to be happy, but at

1012
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 5: the same time, they are like parents to me.

1013
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: I just can't cut them out of my life. Baby.

1014
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you feel this way.

1015
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 5: I really am. You make me happy and without you,

1016
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 5: i'm nothing. You make my day better just by walking

1017
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 5: in the room. Your smile is contagious.

1018
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Me. Just stop.

1019
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: You're just saying that to make me forgive you, and

1020
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 5: I honestly can't. I thought maybe that you would have

1021
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 5: taken my side and supported me in my decision, but

1022
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 5: instead you went behind my bag to talk to my

1023
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: ahole parents that never effing loved me and adopted me

1024
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: for just the money and just to say, oh, look

1025
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: at our wonderful daughter. No, I'm done, I really am.

1026
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: Also another note here, Yes, oh, Opie's fiance who she's

1027
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: conversing with right now has parents that supported her, so

1028
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 5: her being like, they're my parents too. It's like, but

1029
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 5: you already have your actual parents who actually support you.

1030
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just such a wild thing for the fiance again,

1031
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 6: it's like they hate you, like they want they want

1032
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 6: to send you to.

1033
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: Them, to the commercial camp. Nonsense.

1034
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: It makes no sense, so her she says, Lizzie, please

1035
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 5: don't say that you're done. We can make this work.

1036
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: You don't need to have anything to do with them.

1037
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 5: But I want them as a part of my life.

1038
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 5: Which that doesn't make any sense because if she's there,

1039
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 5: she's in your life, then they're gonna be, you know,

1040
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: peas life in some way. And I also want you

1041
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: to be a part of it as well. Remember a

1042
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago when we were at that one

1043
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: restaurant and we were talking about buying a house and

1044
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: adopting children or finding a donor and having biological kids.

1045
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 5: I want that still. I want that life with you me.

1046
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: You think that's going to fix the fact you're talking

1047
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 5: to my parents who want you don't want anything to

1048
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 5: do with me anymore. And two I thought maybe you

1049
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 5: would have taken into consideration how I felt and talked

1050
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 5: to me beforehand. But let me guess you also said

1051
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 5: that they're still invited to our wedding. Her well, yeah,

1052
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 5: I thought they would be, dude, and they probably said

1053
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 5: that out of anger and they're probably hurting Lizzie. You

1054
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 5: need to talk to them and why wouldn't they be

1055
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 5: invited to the wedding?

1056
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: They are your parents, dude? What's the girlfriend's name again? Hannah? Hannah?

1057
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: Hannah?

1058
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 5: Nah, dude, Hannah given Hannah's a bad name.

1059
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: Dude?

1060
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: Uh?

1061
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: You are?

1062
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: You are?

1063
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 6: You are making Hannah's run for the hills right now, wow,

1064
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 6: because they are gonna need to be in hiding with

1065
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 6: what a bad refutation you are putting upon them?

1066
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 5: R truly truly me, they aren't invited to the wedding,

1067
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 5: if that's even still happening, She responds with a gif

1068
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 5: of a shocked face me what. You obviously care more

1069
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 5: about them than me. I honestly didn't want to do this,

1070
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 5: but it's either me or them, so pick because I'm

1071
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: letting you know right now. If you pick them, we're done.

1072
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: I'll go to a pawnshop and sell the engagement ring.

1073
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Her. You're not serious, right, me.

1074
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: I am very serious, pick me or my parents? Her Ben,

1075
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: You're just gonna throw away two years over stupid fight

1076
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 5: you have with your parents. I want all of you

1077
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: in my life, but I see that can happen, and

1078
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 5: I want you to be happy, I really do.

1079
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: But I can't pick either of you.

1080
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to lose you, and I want your

1081
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 5: parents to be part of my life, Lizzie, So I'm sorry,

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00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: but I can't pick.

1083
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you crazy? Hannah?

1084
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 5: Do you realize that now that her parents know that

1085
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: you're her fiance and not her friend, they're going to

1086
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 5: treat you differently.

1087
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: You don't be a crazy?

1088
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 6: Plot twist is if she just like goes along with

1089
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 6: it and then she's like Hannah's like, oh, I'm s

1090
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 6: right now and I'm with the parents, and you know

1091
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 6: it's all good.

1092
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 5: It's like just like she was low key, just trying

1093
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 5: to replace her as a straight daughter.

1094
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy. Oh that would be a

1095
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: crazy move.

1096
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 5: I say, seems like you want to throw away two

1097
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 5: years for it beat parents. So about four hours has

1098
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: passed and she finally answered me. And this is where

1099
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: it gets bad.

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00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: Oh, it wasn't even bad yet Oh my god.

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00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 5: Uh, I guess it may be more like hurtful for me,

1102
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: per Lizzie. I don't want to lose you, but I

1103
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 5: have to pick your parents. I'm sorry, but they are

1104
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 5: important to me, and I just feel like this whole

1105
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: situation is dumb and that you overreacted. Your parents have

1106
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 5: a right to be mad, and they don't hate me.

1107
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: They said that they love me no matter what, So

1108
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Is it okay if I get the engagement

1109
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 5: ring back? Since I'm pretty sure we are over? That

1110
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 5: was a lot of money and it would be nice

1111
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 5: to be able to pawn it and have that money

1112
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 5: for an apartment.

1113
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: No, it's mine now, it's mine. Now, you picked my home,

1114
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: big parents, it's mine now? Oh my god.

1115
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: I still have not responded. I also sent this to everyone,

1116
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 5: and I have the screenshots. This was our whole conversation.

1117
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: What do I do?

1118
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: I am really confused and hurt as to why my

1119
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 5: parents are okay with her but not me. Any advice

1120
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: will help. I told my uncle you guys said he's

1121
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: awesome and amazing, and he said he appreciates it, but

1122
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: he's just.

1123
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: Looking at for Lizzie bear. FYI, I hate that nickname

1124
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: I love.

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00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but I love it, Lizzie Bear, Dude, this

1126
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 6: give this man, uncle of the of the universe, lifetime space.

1127
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: A truly uncle. Give it to him the uncle he's uncle.

1128
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 5: It ap statue in his honor. Yeah, and there is

1129
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: an update here with some more messages. So her, Elizabeth,

1130
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 5: why are you acting like this? This isn't you, I say,

1131
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: why do you care how I act and how I

1132
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: don't act? You made it very clear that you don't

1133
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: want me to be a part of your life. So

1134
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 5: I already canceled the wedding and also the venue. And

1135
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: since I was the one that paid for the honeymoon,

1136
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 5: I canceled your ticket and still have mine. You made

1137
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 5: your decision and you have to live with that choice.

1138
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Her. I'm sorry, Elizabeth, I want you back. Okay, I

1139
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: fed up, But your parents are going to be in

1140
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: my life, please, baby, I'm sorry. I'll do anything for you.

1141
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: Apparently not.

1142
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 7: Apparently you won't even pick her over her bigoted parents

1143
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 7: who are for some reason don't hate you, who is

1144
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 7: also not straight.

1145
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 6: I think the parents are literally doing it as a

1146
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 6: means to like torture, Opie.

1147
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: They they revel in their hatred.

1148
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: You might be right because it doesn't make any sense.

1149
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 5: Yep, nobody's making any sense in this story except for

1150
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 5: op I've seen a couple of people comment about me

1151
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: saying something about top surgery. I just want to clarify

1152
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: that me saying that has nothing to do with what's

1153
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 5: going on in my life choice. It doesn't matter what

1154
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: you guys think about that. It's insensitive that you bring

1155
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 5: it up for no reason. I had medical issues that

1156
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 5: I needed to get it done at the time, but

1157
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: I'm doing better, so please don't bring it up because

1158
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 5: it has nothing to do with what's currently going on.

1159
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: And by the way, I can tell you that currently

1160
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 5: you can find out what's going on with full episodes

1161
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 5: with stories like this, except not there are no stories

1162
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 5: like this.

1163
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: This story is one of a one of a kind.

1164
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: You can listen to full episodes of this podcast on Spotify,

1165
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 5: on Apple Podcasts, on wherever you get podcasts from UH

1166
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 5: just search up Okay Storytime and you will find literally

1167
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 5: forty eight days, forty eight entire day's worth of podcasts

1168
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 5: to listen to.

1169
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: Twenty like that's playing twenty four to seven.

1170
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 5: By the way, twenty four to seven, no breaks so

1171
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 5: we do have another update here.

1172
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: All right, John, do you have anything.

1173
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 5: To add I think we've we're both at a loss here.

1174
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: I mean, this is just a once in a lifetime

1175
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 6: what the F moment? I mean, honestly, let's look at

1176
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 6: the positives here. Op is getting rid of of stinky, terrible, horrible, bigoted,

1177
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 6: homophoid parents, true and crazy insane.

1178
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: We do not know what's going on with you, ex fiance,

1179
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: go double true. So hey, let's let's keep let's let's

1180
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: keep moving. Update number three.

1181
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 5: So I know it's been about two weeks since I

1182
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 5: last updated you guys. From my update, a lot has happened.

1183
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 5: I had my uncle go over to my parents' house

1184
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 5: to grab some clothes of mine and my cat. And

1185
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: while he was over there, he went through my dad's

1186
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 5: phone and saw messages between my father and my ex Annah.

1187
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: They are basically having an affair.

1188
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 6: On the list of things we never saw coming.

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00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: Who found the phone? Mom, No, I think it was uncle, Uncle, Uncle. Oh,

1190
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: poor sweet, oh uncle, poor sweet babe. Oh you did

1191
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: not deserve that.

1192
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 5: Oh No, he's now, he's no longer the Funkle, He's

1193
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 5: a funcle, the affair Uncle. He found the affair dude.

1194
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 5: Oh my god. Okay, oh wow, Okay, continuing on here,

1195
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 5: My mom was notified and she is going through the

1196
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 5: process of getting a divorce. I have officially moved in

1197
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 5: with my uncle and I'm continuing my classes for college.

1198
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 5: I have had some contact with my parents and ex

1199
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 5: that led me deciding to get.

1200
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: A restraining order on all of them.

1201
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 5: Sorry, this update wasn't very drama filled and that is.

1202
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: The end of that story. You are joking right now.

1203
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 6: My mother's favor my sibling over me, so I told

1204
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 6: her she's my second favorite parent.

1205
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 5: Ooh yeah, Now the shoes on the other foot now,

1206
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: huh huh.

1207
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 6: Gosha Mom, I twenty one female have some problems with

1208
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 6: my mom. It's not that I don't love her, I

1209
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 6: truly do, but her behaviors make it really hard to

1210
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 6: get along well with her. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 6: from Recognition Civil ninety seven ninety six on the Oslus

1212
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Speaker 6: your other stories, go to our SU's Okay Storytime Phil

1214
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: those bad boys in there. Oh yeah, it's mainly because

1215
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 6: of her favoritism towards my grandma and uncles. She cares

1216
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 6: about them too much at this point that she had

1217
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 6: no qualms about cutting down my expenses ordered to save

1218
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 6: my uncle some extra cash he.

1219
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: Can spend on booze.

1220
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 6: Initially, my mom's obvious favoritism wasn't that much of a

1221
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 6: big of a deal, since I pretty much got used

1222
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 6: to it, but it always irritated my dad. He was

1223
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 6: considering getting divorced because of these issues, but I convinced

1224
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 6: him not to because I still loved my mom and

1225
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 6: wanted her around. However, another big problem with our relationship

1226
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 6: is my brother quote unquote twenty five male. We're not

1227
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 6: related because he used to be my mom's student when

1228
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 6: he was in high school.

1229
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 5: M Oh, that's a very tenuous connection.

1230
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 6: I am concerned about this particular relationship. Well, I was

1231
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 6: fond of him back then, since he's always been nice

1232
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 6: to me. But I never saw him as an older brother.

1233
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 6: He was just one of my mom's any students for me,

1234
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 6: not something necessarily special. Oh it's special, right, But my

1235
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 6: mom loves him so much.

1236
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: That she says he is her son. Does that mean

1237
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: that she is his mommy? I'll let you decide. He's

1238
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: not even legally adopted or anything.

1239
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 6: He has his own parents, but he just happens to

1240
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 6: have this mother son bond with my mom, and whenever

1241
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 6: he finds a chance of physitist, my mom makes sure

1242
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 6: to fling in my teeth that he is the child

1243
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 6: that she chose. This situation enraged my dad even further,

1244
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 6: and they fought a lot due to this, but each

1245
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 6: time my mom brushed it off and ignored my dad,

1246
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 6: and I didn't see the point arguing further, since she

1247
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 6: is not the type of person who admits.

1248
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: For a mistake, hey shout out to awareness.

1249
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 6: Instead, I decided to follow a different strategy. I've always

1250
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 6: been close to my dad, whether my mom was there

1251
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 6: or not. Therefore, I decided to emphasize that I love

1252
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 6: my dad more than her. I did it several times

1253
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 6: in a joking way, like here's my second favorite parent.

1254
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: What's behind door number two?

1255
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 5: The parent I like less than the other one?

1256
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: Her door number matches her ranking in.

1257
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 5: My hands, right, because she's number two and she stinks like.

1258
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: One all the twos.

1259
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 6: When I went to greet my mom after I returned

1260
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 6: from college, she didn't like that at all. And yeah,

1261
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 6: I know it's wrong for me to say that, but

1262
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 6: I enjoyed making her upset, so I did it a

1263
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 6: few more times, but the last time I did it,

1264
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 6: she burst into tears. I wasn't expecting that reaction at all,

1265
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 6: and it kind of feels like an emotional manipulation tactic

1266
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 6: to make me feel guilty. But regardless, they caught me

1267
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 6: off guard and I kind of feel bad. Now I

1268
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 6: could use some advice here. So am I the A hole?

1269
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 6: We have an edit, but just real quick, before we

1270
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 6: get into it, is will be the A hole?

1271
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Opie.

1272
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: I think you guys in competition, you start working up

1273
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 5: too okay, you start being better than the sky.

1274
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: No, okay, clearly no. But it's like, what's going on?

1275
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1276
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 5: This would be so weird. I really don't know what

1277
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 5: advice to give. I don't know whether you should just like,

1278
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 5: maybe just stop caring. I don't know if that's reasonable

1279
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 5: to even like say about you know, a mother child dynamic,

1280
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: like she's giving you a good reason to stop caring

1281
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 5: as much clearly did I.

1282
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: Got nothing. This is so weird. Let's get to this.

1283
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: So I feel the need to make this edit since

1284
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 6: many people got confused about one thing. I was twelve

1285
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: years old when my dad was considering a divorce. It's

1286
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 6: not recent. It's not like I was a grown, foody

1287
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 6: adult who forced my dad to be codependent in a

1288
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 6: toxic relationship. With that being said, my parents are in

1289
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 6: love with each other. They've been married for twenty four years,

1290
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 6: and they still go on romantic dates regularly by each

1291
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 6: other fancy gifts, and they are still affectionate with each other.

1292
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: I knew this as a child too.

1293
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 6: That's another reason why I didn't want them to get divorced.

1294
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: My dad loves my mom dearly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he was ready to set boundaries for my sake,

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Speaker 6: and I felt guilty like I was ruining the relationship.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad they're still together.

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Speaker 6: They're preparing for their twenty fifth anniversary within a month. Hope,

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Speaker 6: hope that clarifies this, and we have a big old

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Speaker 6: wop in edit that we are just going to wop

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Speaker 6: wop wop right on in one dive. I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 6: to make an update so soon, but a lot has happened, which.

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Speaker 1: Left me even more tired and confused.

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Speaker 6: This morning, the gift that I bought for my dad came.

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Speaker 6: He wanted to buy a smart watch, but thought they

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Speaker 6: were too expensive. Therefore, I was saving my money to

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Speaker 6: buy him a nice one. I ordered it last week

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Speaker 6: and wanted to surprise him. I received the watch this morning,

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Speaker 6: and I gave it to my dad and he just

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Speaker 6: stood there frozen for a moment, and then hugged me

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Speaker 6: tightly and thanks me repeatedly. When he finally let me go,

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Speaker 6: I saw my mom's face. She was tearing up.

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Speaker 1: She said she deserved to be treated with love like

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Speaker 1: my dad.

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Speaker 5: Did she actually forget at this point?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? What are we doing? Does she

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Speaker 1: not know? Tell her? You gotta tell her, yeah, as

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Speaker 1: she hadn't been told yet.

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Speaker 6: Tell her even implied that I just bought this watch

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Speaker 6: to make her jealous of my dad. I explained to

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Speaker 6: her that that wasn't my intention and showed her the

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Speaker 6: exact date that I ordered the gift. You calmed down

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Speaker 6: a bit after that, and she apologized for the assumption.

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Speaker 6: Then she explained that she knew she wasn't perfect, but

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Speaker 6: still loved me deeply. It was hard to believe her,

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Speaker 6: considering the stark contrast between her kind treatment towards my grandma, uncles,

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Speaker 6: and brother quote unquote and her cold treatment towards me.

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Speaker 6: I told her that exactly, and she apologized again and

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Speaker 6: promised to be better. I wanted to believe her, I

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Speaker 6: really did, but after all those years, it no longer mattered.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I'm not that little

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Speaker 6: girl who desperately wants her mom's affects anymore. I still

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Speaker 6: said I would appreciate it, though she hugged me tightly

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01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 6: and said she loved me more than everyone else, which

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Speaker 6: made me tear up a bit. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 6: I told her I loved her too, which is true,

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Speaker 6: and I really do love her. But after everything, I'm

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Speaker 6: not sure if I want to be close to her anymore.

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01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 6: I just feel numb, if that makes sense. However, I'm

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Speaker 6: seriously considering going low contact with her. My college is

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01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 6: going to start within two weeks, and I won't have

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Speaker 6: to see my mom until next summer. This is good,

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Speaker 6: I guess, question mark.

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Speaker 1: At least I will have time.

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Speaker 6: To cool off and think about if I still want

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Speaker 6: to have a relationship with her. In any case, I'm

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Speaker 6: firm about going low contact. I don't think I'm ready

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Speaker 6: to cut any ties with her for good, at least

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Speaker 6: for now, because if I go completely no contact with her,

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01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 6: I fear I might end up forgiving her. That's why

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Speaker 6: I think going low contact seems like the best option here.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a switcher roo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost like you kind of context is like

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01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 6: she starts going to the grass is always greener.

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01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the flip flops syndrome.

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh know that is my mom it maybe yes,

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Speaker 5: like no, no, no, like no, I need to remember.

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Speaker 6: I always have that two percent. Never forget okay, never

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01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 6: forget that that two percent. That just reminds me, like nope, nope, nope.

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Speaker 6: That's why this is why. Oh yeah, we keep it separated.

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Speaker 6: Should I go no contact with her? Or do you

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01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 6: think that I've been too harsh with her? I don't

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 6: know what I should think. I'm really confused any suggestions

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Speaker 6: about my situation.

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: We have an update number.

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Speaker 5: Two, but to count up, I think low contact is

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Speaker 5: fair because, like you know, it's it's both like, yeah,

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 5: it can remind you whether you want to maintain a

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01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 5: distance between the two of you, or it can inform

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01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 5: you on if you might be changing your mind about

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01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 5: what you want to do. But either way, it's like

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Speaker 5: her weird, like refusal to see your perspective in this

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01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 5: where it's like I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: It's like, how do you not? I mean right? That

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: was her.

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Speaker 5: That was basically her take, the mom's take, yeah, like

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Speaker 5: what like.

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: What like am I not remembering that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Like, but the mom's take on like it

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: was like why are you doing this to me?

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01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 5: And then OP was like because this Yeah, mom's take

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01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 5: was like what that's crazy.

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01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, mom refuses to accept reality and instead creates her

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01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 6: own distorted reality that serves her sick, twisted whatever.

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever's going on with her.

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Speaker 5: So with that in mind, it's like, you're probably not

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 5: going to really make any headway there in a constructive way.

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 5: So any kind of bridge for this gap is going

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 5: to have to come from her side first.

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Speaker 1: All right, Update number two, let's get into it.

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Speaker 6: Not much has changed since I made my last update,

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 6: but I still want to share some details with you guys.

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Speaker 1: First of all, my mom is treating me better now, okay, okay.

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01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 6: The first thing she did when she woke up this

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01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 6: morning was coming to my room to kiss and cuddle

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01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 6: me again, don't trust it, which was something she used

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 6: to do when I was a kid not gonna lie.

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Speaker 6: It felt really nice and emotional. I felt like that

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Speaker 6: little girl who wanted nothing more than to spend.

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Speaker 1: Time with her parents.

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Speaker 6: However, it also reminded me of the fact that my

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 6: mom wasn't doing it since I was a kid, and

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01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 6: that feeling of being unloved and neglected came back to.

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01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 6: It kind of became a sort of bittersweet moment for me.

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 6: My mom was nicer towards me overall since that.

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: Gift incident that I shared in my last post.

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Speaker 6: I was not sure about what to do, but I

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01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 6: was highly considering going low contact with her. There are

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01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 6: several reasons why I chose not to go full no

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 6: contact for now. One, if I go no contact with her,

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01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 6: it can cause me to miss her, which would make

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01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 6: me more emotional and weaker in the process. Therefore, I

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 6: think I would end up forgiving her even after everything

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01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 6: that's happened.

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: Does this make you.

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01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 6: Weak, perhaps, but at least I know myself. Number Two,

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01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 6: it could damage my relationship with my dad. I didn't

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 6: realize this possibility. Someone made this point in that post.

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01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 6: As I mentioned my other posts, my parents love each

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 6: other very much. That means if I go no contact

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 6: with my mom might end up sacrificing my relationship with

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01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 6: my dad, since we'd have a much more limited time

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 6: to see each other, and I don't want that.

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01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: At number three, I.

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Speaker 6: Consider going no contact a bit extreme for my situation.

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Speaker 6: I've seen people here who deal with serious problems because

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01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 6: of their parents, and that's why they go no contact

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 6: with them, and they absolutely have every right to do that.

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 6: But to be honest, my mom isn't a Disney villain

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 6: or an overall bad person. She's just a flawed mother

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 6: with her problems. You know what, we can we can

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 6: bring down the hammer a little bit more on Mom here.

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 6: We can we can be a little more critical.

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Speaker 1: I think so yeah. I believe so yeah.

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 5: I believe s we can come down a little.

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01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: Harder than them. Mom deserves a little bit more than

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: what she's getting over here. She's to be more.

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01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 6: However, I know I'm not responsible for her problem, and

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01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 6: I'm sure as heck I don't feel bad because of them.

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01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 6: I still love her and understand her motives better now,

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 6: but I also understand that those problems don't justify her

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 6: mistreatment towards me. Because I'm tired of excusing her behaviors.

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01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 5: Big facts, right there, Boom that gets five big booms.

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01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: Big booms. Brought the boom of those facts.

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01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 6: And you know what, if you want to bring the

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 6: boom to your freaking ear holes, you should go to Spotify,

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Speaker 6: this is one story?

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01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 1: How about full episodes? How about that? How about it?

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Speaker 6: Why don't you go there and search okay, story time

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Speaker 6: and instantly just just listen to the whole catalog.

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Speaker 1: It's all right there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, while you're washing dishes, anything you got but say,

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Speaker 5: howdy doodle to forty eight consecutive days worth of podcast

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Speaker 6: Many people in my last post also suggested that going

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01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 6: low contact for now would be the best solution for me,

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 6: and I.

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01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: Agree that this is the best, not just for me,

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: but also for my mom. This is what I'm gonna do.

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01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 6: Also, I can't believe I say this, but I actually

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01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 6: missed my college. Being back there will give me some

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 6: time to cool off and take everything in. If anything,

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01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 6: I'll be distracted for a while. Anyways, I'm really grateful

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 6: for all the support and advice.

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Speaker 1: You guys are truly amazing. Thank you for everything. Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 1: it's John og Host here.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 6: quick three minute break from Asper more sponsor. I resent

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Speaker 6: my biological father, but he doesn't even know I exist.

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Speaker 1: That's not good.

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Speaker 6: The story I got told at fourteen was that my

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01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 6: dad wasn't my biological father. He was the man who

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 6: married my mom after I was already born. And basically

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 6: my mom and dad thought at the time that I

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 6: deserved to know this because a few people in our

1478
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 6: environment kept saying how I didn't look like him, and

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 6: I was asking them if I was maybe adopted or something.

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01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from yes, of course I'm

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Speaker 6: mad on the oar slash okay story time Separate it.

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Speaker 6: If you want to send your own stories, go to

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Speaker 6: our slash okay story time.

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Speaker 1: Separate it and send it in.

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 6: Very little was spoken of the man that my mom

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 6: got pregnant with, but the basic gist of it was

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Speaker 6: that he didn't care about mom being pregnant, didn't want

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Speaker 6: a child in the first place, and then she'd want

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01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 6: anything to do with him any further. So she cut

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Speaker 6: all contact, no child support. Because my mom's family is

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 6: well off, I won't bs you and say that I

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01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 6: wasn't hurt, but I got over it quickly enough with

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01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 6: the help of my mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, mom and dad.

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 6: Got a divorced last year. Just felt like they didn't

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01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 6: love each other that way anymore. I guess they're still

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01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 6: good friends with each other, though no drama, for which

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Speaker 6: I'm grateful. Still, this sort of prompted me into thinking

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 6: about my biological father lately, and I ended up looking

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Speaker 6: him up online. Don't know what I expected to see, really,

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 6: but he's just normal. I guess I might have been

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 6: thinking he'd have this kind of a whole look to

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01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 6: him because of how he rejected me far I was

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 6: even born. But anyways, one night, after drinking or then

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 6: I should have with some friends on a night out,

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01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 6: I did a stupid thing and sent him a message

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Speaker 6: basically accusing him how he's a horrible evil and other

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Speaker 6: less polite words because.

1509
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: Of how he abandoned me.

1510
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 6: So the next morning, after I actually remembered what I did,

1511
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 6: I saw his reply to me. It's polite but confused,

1512
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 6: and he has no idea who I am or how

1513
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 6: I'm supposed to be related to him. I had my

1514
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 6: dad's last name, saying in the end that I probably

1515
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 6: got the wrong person.

1516
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: Wish he wished me the best. I don't know. It

1517
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: just pissed me off, even.

1518
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 6: Though Oh I was sober and a bit hungover, so

1519
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 6: I fired up several paragraphs to him about exactly who

1520
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 6: I am, exactly who my mom is, and what he

1521
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 6: did to us. His reply came in the evening, and

1522
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 6: it was quite extensive, but I will sum it up

1523
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 6: for you. They broke up with each other on bad

1524
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 6: terms after they were together for a little over a year.

1525
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 6: She never mentioned any pregnancy to him, and when he

1526
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 6: tried to contact her later afterwards because he felt like

1527
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 6: crap over how it ended, she rebuffed him and blocked him.

1528
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 6: And that was the last time he tried getting in

1529
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 6: touch with her. Needless to say, me being pissed off

1530
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 6: at him was gone in a flash, and now my

1531
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 6: father was the one angry at my mom for doing this.

1532
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 6: I was wondering how to talk to my mom about

1533
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 6: what I found out, but I didn't have to bother

1534
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 6: because my father contacted her first and confronted her about

1535
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 6: hiding me from him. Oh whoa Oh, what a twist?

1536
01:10:58,840 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: What a twist?

1537
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 5: Not a dead beat Dad, just he's a lot no

1538
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 5: idea how to beat We don't be no retake.

1539
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 6: Living on the beats, living on the beats, living on

1540
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 6: the beats, that's what he is.

1541
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: That's the one saved me.

1542
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can also understand the mom's position, but also like.

1543
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: Only at first, like you gotta tell at.

1544
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 6: Some point, you gotta you're done fed up, you're done

1545
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 6: fed up, and dad, he's coming for you now and

1546
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 6: not that way, that way you mind not it goes

1547
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 6: not anymore. Those days are long gone. We're getting to

1548
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 6: know each other slowly, mostly over the internet. That we

1549
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 6: talked a few times over video chat. Because he doesn't

1550
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 6: live in the same country as us, it'll be oh,

1551
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 6: maybe that was also a factor in it, where it's like, oh,

1552
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 6: he doesn't live not that that excuses her or anything,

1553
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 6: but like living in different countries, that's crazy.

1554
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: How long did he live in that country?

1555
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: Though?

1556
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's like.

1557
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 5: That's true, more information needed, But it's like there could

1558
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 5: be some situation in which that you would you would

1559
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 5: tell that, right, but not if it's untrue.

1560
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: This guy's didn't know he had a kid, and now

1561
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: he's now he's getting active, he's get a.

1562
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he immediately seemed to be taking some level

1563
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 5: of responsibility.

1564
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: Come on by going, hey, hey, why didn't you tell me?

1565
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 6: It'll be time soon enough to meet ir L in

1566
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 6: real life, and I'll nervous this act. But by all

1567
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 6: accounts and the way he's talked to me and held

1568
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 6: back on sharing with me the rest of the family,

1569
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 6: I think I'm going to like him a lot.

1570
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: Why the F did she do it? We're going straight

1571
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: into it.

1572
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 6: She says that she has no idea why she really

1573
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 6: did this, blamed it on the pregnancy and stuff. But

1574
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 6: I don't see how the pregnancy could have influenced me

1575
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 6: her for my whole life exactly. That's the biggest nonsense

1576
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 6: BS answer.

1577
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: Come on, I love.

1578
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 6: Her, but there's times that when it's just the two

1579
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 6: of us and I can't help but hating her for

1580
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 6: denying the both of us the chance to get to

1581
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 6: know each other as I grew up. I can tell

1582
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 6: my father has heard about this, though he doesn't talk

1583
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 6: about it directly, and my mom can probably guess how

1584
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 6: I feel, given that she just starts tearing up at

1585
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 6: times she sees I'm angry or being kurt with her.

1586
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like she gets it.

1587
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 5: That feels like she's trying to manipulate you into being

1588
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 5: less upset, not gonna lie, although it could be he

1589
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 5: does feel bad about it. But for her to be like, oh,

1590
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 5: I don't know why I didn't tell you it was

1591
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 5: pregnanty hormones. That's BSh So she's already gonna tell you.

1592
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 5: That feels like this is BS two A split in half.

1593
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 6: Happy when I'm talking to my father, but my like,

1594
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 6: heck when I talk to my mom afterwards. I want

1595
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 6: all of us to get better, but the same time,

1596
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 6: I want.

1597
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: Her to hurt. Wow. What do I do now? And

1598
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: there's some relevant comments. Well, first of all, please just like,

1599
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: don't do that. Yeah, I don't do that. Don't do that.

1600
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: He's an emotionally charged like kid.

1601
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 5: Right now, you're you've been hit with a very sharp

1602
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 5: spike of emotion, no baggage to sort of compute all

1603
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 5: at once. Yeah, but like, taking vengeance against your mom

1604
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 5: is not going to make you feel any better. In fact,

1605
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 5: over time, it'll probably.

1606
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: Make it feel worse.

1607
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 5: Yes, So, like I think if you want to do anything,

1608
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 5: I would just try to get your mom to be

1609
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 5: honest and get more to the root of why why

1610
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 5: did you do this?

1611
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: Because her excuse is BS. So we got some relevant

1612
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: comments from No, No A thousand times.

1613
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 5: No.

1614
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 6: I'd actually suggest you and your real father take a

1615
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 6: DNA test to verify things. That is a great idea,

1616
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 6: and your mother knows why she chose what she chose.

1617
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 6: It was only seventeen years ago. Your dad, who raised you,

1618
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 6: might know something too. Did you ask him? Opie said, sorry,

1619
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 6: I wrote this in one go completely forgot to put

1620
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 6: in his.

1621
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 1: Side of things.

1622
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 6: My dad had no clue either about what happened. He

1623
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 6: only came into our lives when I was around three

1624
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 6: to four years old, and he took what my mom

1625
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 6: said to him as the truth and didn't really know

1626
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 6: otherwise until I talked to.

1627
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: Him about it recently.

1628
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 6: Wow, just another freakin' Oh yeah, and the test was

1629
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 6: already done. He is my father. Mom keeps saying she

1630
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 6: really doesn't know a little. Imsreary says, these kinds of

1631
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 6: things have become sticky and tricky. I would sit with

1632
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 6: your mom down and talk to her about this, tell

1633
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 6: her about what you know, tell her that you're angry deservedly,

1634
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 6: and tell her that you don't want to be angry

1635
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 6: at her forever, but you don't know how to get

1636
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 6: past this.

1637
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: Opie says.

1638
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 6: I did talk with her, though I'll be the first

1639
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 6: one to admit that it was less of a talk

1640
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 6: and more of me just throwing out one breastest or

1641
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 6: another with her not answering and just crying. I just

1642
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 6: want to know why, and she's not telling me crap.

1643
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 6: I asked her if she if he was door or

1644
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 6: if he cheated, if he did anything to deserve something

1645
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 6: like this, but no, he apparently didn't do anything wrong.

1646
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 6: My father says they were just people that clicked poorly

1647
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 6: at times and didn't communicate well, so it kept escalating

1648
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 6: until it just blew up in their faces again. They

1649
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 6: were teenagers. Well, he was my mom's older than him

1650
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 6: by a few years, so that's no surprise. OPI on

1651
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 6: her parents' ages when she was conceived. She was twenty

1652
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 6: four when she got pregnant. My dad will always be

1653
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 6: my dad. The fact that I found out the truth

1654
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 6: about my father doesn't negate their relationship we have, or

1655
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 6: the fact that he raised me as his own. He'll

1656
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 6: always be my dad, even if I grow close to

1657
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 6: my biological father as I've grown close to my dad,

1658
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 6: my adopted dad over the years, and he knows this.

1659
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 6: I made sure if and says, I think you really

1660
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 6: have your math wrong. My father was nineteen when it

1661
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 6: was with my mom, who's five years older than him,

1662
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 6: got pregnant. Even if he was seventeen, which he wasn't,

1663
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 6: it wouldn't matter since I just checked and the age

1664
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 6: of consent here's fourteen.

1665
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: Oh night, What the that is too young? Sidebar?

1666
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 6: But we do have an update coming in. I wonder

1667
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 6: if part so he was nineteen and she was twenty four.

1668
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 5: I sorry, I'm still just slack jawed at fourteen.

1669
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: That's insane. WHOA we have the update.

1670
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 6: I found out why she told me the lie. Oh boy,

1671
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 6: thought my biological father didn't want me. Okay, we're gonna

1672
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 6: get the answer.

1673
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

1674
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 6: Okay, it's maddeningly simple and stupid.

1675
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: Ah madness, I love madness.

1676
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 6: She was basically getting to know my adopted dad, her

1677
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 6: now ex husband, and he wanted to know about my

1678
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 6: father's involvement in our lives. Put on the spot, she

1679
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 6: made this ridiculous story about how he didn't really care

1680
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 6: for having a child. They didn't keep in touch and

1681
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 6: over the years it evolved into an effing theater play,

1682
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 6: which is what I got years down the line when

1683
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 6: I asked about my father. So she told the one

1684
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 6: little white lie and then just built the whole universe,

1685
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 6: built it, built a multivers around. We were in the

1686
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 6: one vie rainforest. We made passionate love amongst the practices.

1687
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 6: And then that tiger that came out of nowhere, and

1688
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 6: I said stop, and I shot you out at the

1689
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 6: tiger and bumped him on the nose.

1690
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,959
Speaker 1: The tiger ran away, and I held.

1691
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 5: You in my arms for that first time, and I said,

1692
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 5: I've never seen a man boop a tiger like this.

1693
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: My dad, we're gonna get the real story here.

1694
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 6: My dad, I guess, uh didn't want to put salt

1695
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 6: on the wound, so he just avoided the subject in

1696
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 6: the future until I asked about it.

1697
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: That's it.

1698
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 6: That's the whole reason why I didn't know my father

1699
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 6: for all my whole life up until recently. No, really,

1700
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 6: because she didn't want to look like some spiteful crazy

1701
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 6: woman who neglected to tell someone that their father. She

1702
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 6: made this up, which is some bitter irony for her,

1703
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 6: because she does look like a crazy spiful woman with

1704
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 6: the lies she is told about my father. I am

1705
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 6: so mad at her. I can still barely control my

1706
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 6: anger around her. All I want to do is hurt

1707
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 6: her until she feels really hurt, like I was when

1708
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 6: I found out I missed out on knowing my father

1709
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 6: all along and him getting to know me as well again.

1710
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 6: Would not advise that he is a seventeen year old

1711
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 6: Harmony answers.

1712
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 5: Yes, this is yes, this is a teenager who needs therapy.

1713
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: Probably the alongside is mom yes? Agreed or degree?

1714
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 5: Probably not at first, I would probably say you want

1715
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 5: to do some solo sessions first and then bring mom in,

1716
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 5: especially if he's this angry.

1717
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 6: It's like I also agree with that. Yeah, yes, this

1718
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 6: is a good plan. I restrained myself more often than not.

1719
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 6: But god dang, this isn't something that's going to be

1720
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 6: just pushed to the side. I don't know what we'll

1721
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,839
Speaker 6: do now, and I know that sometime in the future

1722
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 6: I'll probably re establish having a good relationship with my mother,

1723
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 6: But right now it's just not happening. But on the

1724
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 6: brighter side of things.

1725
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: I met my father, eh Bio Daddy.

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 6: Some people mentioned in the last thread that I should

1727
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 6: be careful how when and where I meet him. Someone

1728
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 6: thought that I would be flying out of the country

1729
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 6: to meet him, I think, but given how everyone that

1730
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 6: knew him back then and now had nothing good to

1731
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 6: say about him, I connected with my father's side out

1732
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 6: of the family, plenty of cousins, aunts, uncles and so

1733
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 6: on to talk with and meet, and it's a bit

1734
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 6: overwhelming with just how many of them are there are

1735
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 6: and how overjoyed they were to find out about me.

1736
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 6: I gave him a few dates when we could meet,

1737
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 6: and he picked this last weekend. He flew back on Friday,

1738
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 6: visited his parents, my grandparents, and man, that's so weird

1739
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 6: how I have another set of grandparents a hole mix.

1740
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I really don't know what I was expecting.

1741
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 6: I mean, yes, we talked and he seemed very understanding

1742
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 6: and kind and good and so very interested in meeting

1743
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 6: up with me. But I guess there was this kind

1744
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 6: of effed up fear of him not liking what he

1745
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 6: actually saw in leaving. No really, thanks for this craft, mom,

1746
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 6: It didn't matter in the least. As soon as we met,

1747
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 6: there was just this moment. I don't know how to

1748
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 6: describe it. I don't really think I've ever had anything

1749
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 6: like that before. And he just hugged me and I

1750
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 6: could feel him shaking. I think he was holding himself

1751
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 6: back from crying, and I started crying for.

1752
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: No real reason. And then we talked and just spent

1753
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the day together.

1754
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 6: By the way, if you want more cute moment, if

1755
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 6: you want a lifetime of cute moments that you can

1756
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 6: spend every waking hour of your life listening to, true,

1757
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 6: go to Spotify Apple Podcasts in your favorite pod app

1758
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 6: search Okay story time and listen to full episodes with.

1759
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: Stories just like this.

1760
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 6: Wait, stories just like this. But we have just a

1761
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 6: little bit left here ooh, here we go. We pretty

1762
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 6: much spent the whole weekend together. From the moment I

1763
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 6: got up, we talked, and by the time he was

1764
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 6: boarding his flight, I didn't really want him to leave

1765
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 6: ever again, and he won't, not really. He wanted to

1766
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 6: know everything about me, and I mean literally everything, And

1767
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 6: I guess what really made me actually love him is

1768
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 6: him asking to meet my adopted dad, asking me if

1769
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 6: that was okay with me, and then thanking him for

1770
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 6: his part in raising me. That damn is a class act.

1771
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 5: Move, Dude, Are we back in school right now, because

1772
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 5: that was classy.

1773
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: That was classy.

1774
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 6: Af dude, I dude, A lot of good male role

1775
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 6: models in this in these few stories today.

1776
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: This is good love this.

1777
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 6: They talk some more with each other while I was

1778
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 6: busy with something else, and I think these sort of

1779
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 6: became friends.

1780
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to call their relationship, No.

1781
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 5: Dad, I think like, honestly, if I was in the

1782
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 5: like bio Dad's position and I met the guy who

1783
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 5: like raised the kid that I never knew I had,

1784
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 5: I'd be like, hey, respect, yeah, and I would hope

1785
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 5: they'd be like also respect.

1786
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 6: And and and he did he did nothing wrong. It

1787
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,480
Speaker 6: was the mom that lied to everybody.

1788
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1789
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: God.

1790
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 6: So it's like if we're if we're if we attack

1791
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 6: adopted Dad, it's the equivalent of uh, when when someone

1792
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 6: goes in cheats and the person goes after the affair partner,

1793
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 6: It's like, nah, go after your freaking partner, right, they're

1794
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 6: the one that that that cheated.

1795
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 5: Off, right, you know what I mean, Like the most

1796
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 5: pertinent part that you could go after.

1797
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: Come out of the priorities.

1798
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 6: So to all of you who helped me deal with

1799
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 6: my ft up situation, thank you from the bottom of

1800
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 6: my heart. Thank you, even if it seemed like I

1801
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 6: was just venting out loud to the Internet.

1802
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Thank you all. And that's the end of that story.