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Speaker 1: Get out, just get up. What's up? Mets fans, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another episode of the Mets of the podcast

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Speaker 1: The Cats out of the Bag a little bit. You see,

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Speaker 1: we are in a completely different spot, a completely different area.

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Speaker 1: No longer in my office in Astoria. We are actually

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Speaker 1: at City Field, and that is because we are happy

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Speaker 1: to announce. The big announcement is that we are now

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Speaker 1: the official podcast of the New York Mets, which is

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Speaker 1: just still unbelievable, shocking. Honestly, I literally can't believe that.

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Speaker 2: I've had friends, family, people coming out of the woodwork

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Speaker 2: this last weekend since it became official to congratulate me, congratulate.

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Speaker 1: Us, dude. We did a good job. We got seen

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Speaker 1: by the team that we talk about. Not a lot

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Speaker 1: of people can say that we've done a hell of

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Speaker 1: a job and super excited for what is yet to come.

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Speaker 1: We have so much more content, nothing changing, It's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be better. There's gonna be more content. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have player interviews with current players, former players. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be a much better podcast, which I just can't

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Speaker 1: wait to get going. I almost came and believe it.

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Speaker 1: We did such a good job on our own high five.

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Speaker 1: We're always good for a good high five there, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect way to get into it. Guys,

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Speaker 1: nothing's changing at Mets Up, just more content, So Twitter, Instagram, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: our first episode again with the Big League boys, so

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Speaker 1: make sure you give us some love. We really do

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. And without further ado, let's just jump right

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Speaker 1: into it because we have the Marlin series to talk about,

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Speaker 1: in which the Mets took three out of four, which

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Speaker 1: is nice, not perfect, but it's nice. We're very happy

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Speaker 1: with that, and.

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Speaker 2: Exactly as we predicted going into the series, you saw

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Speaker 2: that the Mets kind of had advantage generally over the team.

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Speaker 2: We neglected to mention that the Marlins has some COVID

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Speaker 2: issues or missing a couple of their starting players, so

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Speaker 2: our apologies on that, but seeing the way the series

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Speaker 2: stacked up, they're like, okay, four games Sandy a concert

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Speaker 2: is pitching one of them.

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Speaker 1: Let's win three of them. And that's exactly what the

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Speaker 1: Mets did. That's exactly what the Mets did. It started

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Speaker 1: with Game one. The bats came out hot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what a perfect way to start the series, A perfect

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Speaker 1: way to start game one. This feels like a lifetime ago.

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Speaker 1: I know, the four game series are always such a slog,

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Speaker 1: they feel so long, but that's why you guys are

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Speaker 1: listening to us, so you can remember what happened in

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Speaker 1: Game one and.

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Speaker 2: The first thing that happened first inning, I believe right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sending. Francisco Lindor came up for Nemo and

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Speaker 2: Marte got on as they do all the time, back

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Speaker 2: to back. Seemed like they were on base with each

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Speaker 1: It felt like they were on base every single at bat.

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Speaker 1: I know that wasn't the case, but that's what it

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Speaker 1: felt like. And luckily for US Mets fans, Francisco Lindor's

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Speaker 1: a met which I didn't know that. That was a

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Speaker 1: shocking stat to me. That was bizarre, almost like Carrasco

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Speaker 2: longest home run of Lindor's career, right, longest home run

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Speaker 1: Which love that, Yeah, no, absolutely love that. He swinging

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Speaker 1: And the offense was just clicking from the start, which

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Speaker 1: Where would we be without Carlos Carrasco this year? Nowhere?

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Speaker 1: I mean not nowhere. This team will still be solid.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that we've had his like steadying veteran

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Speaker 1: That was a guy you talked about the beginning of

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Carrasco in this game six and the

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Speaker 2: thirds innings, eight hits allowed, three earned, two walks, seven strikeouts.

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Speaker 2: As you can probably guess, that's more than he did

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Speaker 1: It's healthy. He's healthy. He is a huge one. Okay.

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Speaker 1: His forcing fastball and slider each led the way in

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Speaker 2: Each of them had seven whiffs, which very very good

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Speaker 2: Sliders, one of the hardest pitch to hit the league,

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Speaker 2: and overall for Carrasco, just so again just hammer home

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Speaker 2: how good he's been this year. He's in the ninety

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Speaker 1: So we'll take it because when it's good for us,

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, this shows that

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Speaker 2: and Carrasco is doing that almost every single time out.

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Speaker 1: Dude, we told you guys last year it's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: Carrasco wasn't healthy. It's gonna be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: this team. Carasco had two injuries and two complete different

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Speaker 1: parts of his body. They're both like majorly important to

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Speaker 1: the pitching process. Bone chips in an elbow and a

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Speaker 1: seventh inning, the batch just exploded. The team just could

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Speaker 1: not stop hitting Pete Grand Slam second of the season,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know how many guys have hit a

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Speaker 2: Alonso is actually a third player in baseball this year

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Speaker 1: Got that from our newfound producer John. Yeah. No, it's

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Speaker 1: He leads the league RBIs. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: needs vote for him in the All Star Game. Play

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Speaker 2: Also, I want to shout out Pablo Lopez, who's generally

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Speaker 2: a fantastic pitcher, but he's basically now had the two

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Speaker 1: In City Field, which is awesome. We love to see

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Speaker 1: The Grand Slam was huge. Sorry, Pablo, we like you,

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Speaker 1: but we like winning better.

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Speaker 2: And before closing out Friday Night's game, we do want

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Speaker 2: to shout out it was Pride Night at the ballpark

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Speaker 2: and Taiwan Walker did a great thing pregame. It's awesome,

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Speaker 1: Not sure if anybody know this, but it was born

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Speaker 2: About everything it's just very inclusive, nice guys. You see

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Speaker 2: was also playing incredibly good baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they played great in Game one and it was

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Speaker 1: a great way to start the series. A nice winning

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Speaker 1: Game one, which leads us now into Game two. And

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Speaker 1: Game two was a little bit weird for us because

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Speaker 1: wasn't because we were still promo shooting things, which you

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Speaker 1: a YouTube man. Yeah early for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another for me too, and I I get used

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Speaker 2: to working another real job as well. But just doing

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Speaker 2: a promo shoot on the field that you guys hopefully

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Speaker 2: have seen now if you haven't, it's kind of hilarious.

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Speaker 2: They dress us up like as ball players, put on

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Speaker 2: EyeBlack for the first time in over ten years.

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Speaker 1: I'll take a tip of the cap on that one.

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Speaker 2: That was all my idea, right, Yeah, this was our

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you guys called it too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and just to wrap this game up, it was

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Speaker 2: a little frustrating that after we got on Brax and

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Speaker 2: Garrett early chased him, I believe was in the fourth

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Speaker 2: or fifth inning, we were unable to jump on the

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Speaker 2: Marlins bullpen at all.

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Speaker 1: The rest of this game. We only had two hard

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Speaker 1: hit balls off the Marlins bullpen for five full innings.

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Speaker 1: The Marlins will pull out names like Jimmy Yacobonis, Lewis Head, Right,

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Speaker 1: Lewis Head, that's a guy that you like, But these

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Speaker 1: are people that regular baseball fans probably have never heard of,

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Speaker 1: and for good reason. They're on the Marlins, one of

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Speaker 1: the you know, weaker teams in baseball. They're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: the highest of quality, and the mess just couldn't really

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Speaker 1: get anything done.

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Speaker 2: No, but the Marlins bullpen this year is not like

448
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Speaker 2: the Marlins bullpens of years past, like they actually do

449
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Speaker 2: have talent there. They seem to actually have a plan

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Speaker 2: with guys, like they're adjusting mor they're adjusting guys repertoires,

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Speaker 2: they're teaching guys new pitches. They're doing the things developmentally

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Speaker 2: that the good smart teams do. And it's I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say it's good to see them doing that

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Speaker 2: because I love them to continue being a doormat forever.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the Nationals have very very well, willfully

456
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Speaker 2: usurped that role from them, But also this game not

457
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Speaker 2: thinking the ball very hard. The Met's only had four

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Speaker 2: strikeouts in this one, and that is the Mets this year,

459
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Speaker 2: for better or worse. They're going to make a lot

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Speaker 2: of contact. Might not always be hard contact, might not

461
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Speaker 2: always be what we call equality contact, but it's a

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Speaker 2: lot contact and putting the.

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Speaker 1: Ball in play and you're seeing if they will do

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Speaker 1: something wrong. This is something that we talked about during

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Speaker 1: the offseason. We talked about ben z Ausmer and Billy

466
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Speaker 1: Eppler are putting together a roster of guys with a purpose.

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Speaker 1: It seems like. And if you think about Mets teams

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Speaker 1: in the past, we always talked about runers in scoring

469
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Speaker 1: position being a huge, huge problem for this Mets team.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't drive in runs when guys got in the

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Speaker 1: right positions, and that's because they were striking out a lot.

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Speaker 1: They weren't getting good quality hits. Right now, this Mets

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Speaker 1: team doesn't strike out, hits the ball hard walks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're doing everything a good team should be doing. We

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Speaker 1: also have kind of learned going through this year that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot there are a lot of teams in

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Speaker 1: baseball they're just not really that sound defensively no, and

478
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Speaker 1: you kind of just put it on them to screw

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Speaker 1: something up and sometimes they will, and if they do,

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Speaker 1: you take it and you move on. And like we said,

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Speaker 1: the Mets just kind of did enough in this game offensively.

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Speaker 1: Drew Chains our boy Drew Smith, because of course he

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Speaker 1: rocks the chain. So now his nickname is Drew Chains

484
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Speaker 1: for those of you who are new to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We love nicknames here. He was great. Again. We're huge

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Speaker 1: fans of Drew Smith. Hope one day we can talk

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Speaker 1: to him. Big fans forever. Yeah, he's just he's he's great.

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Speaker 1: Where would this team again be in the bullpen without

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Speaker 1: Drew Smith and Edwin? It got a little bit, it

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Speaker 1: got a little dicey there, a little bit, you know, nervous.

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Speaker 1: I was particularly nervous too, because everything was being announced

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Speaker 1: by us. Yeah, and the worst thing that could have

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Speaker 1: happened on that day was the Mets lose from an

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Speaker 1: Edwin d has blown save on this pay that we

495
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Speaker 1: announced the podcast, And I'm not gonna say the word,

496
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Speaker 1: but I was really worried that we would have gotten

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Speaker 1: that Moniker. I was too, but luckily it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Also, just a little little weird that this was the

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Speaker 2: second straight star where Edwin did allow like a Litanya

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Speaker 2: base runners, a second straight second tradate appearance where Edwin

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Speaker 2: allowed kind of like a Litania base runners. We saw

502
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Speaker 2: the craziness from the Milwaukee game on Thursday. This one

503
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Speaker 2: again we had some insurance runs, so giving a one

504
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Speaker 2: run wasn't really the end of the world. But as

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Speaker 2: Edwin does, he still manages strike three batters out. That

506
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Speaker 2: brought him up to the highest strikeout rate then reliever

507
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Speaker 2: in baseball, and it gave his slyther the most strikeouts

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Speaker 2: of any singular pitch for a reliever all year with

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Speaker 2: thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: Just edwind he has a slyder has struck out thirty

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Speaker 1: nine batteries this year. Those trumpets, man, they just get

512
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Speaker 1: him going. He's been absolutely disgusting. And I don't know

513
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Speaker 1: if there have really been many Maybe one better clothes

514
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Speaker 1: at all baseball, Yeah, probably one exactly better closer.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe two now because the second Yankee mentioned

516
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Speaker 2: Clay Holmes is ridiculous. But he does things like that

517
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Speaker 2: shouldn't even be humanly possible.

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Speaker 1: But Edwin, for a guy who a lot of people

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Speaker 1: I think were losing hope on early in his Mets career,

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Speaker 1: I think he couldn't have flipped it any better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we were talking to a good fan like during

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Speaker 1: this sequence, remember oh yeah, and he was like moaning

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Speaker 1: and groaning actually though this was this was the in

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Speaker 1: the bathroom line after yeah right, yeah, And he was

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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that, like Edwin, you know, he

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Speaker 1: did this. But this fan who I met the poor

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Speaker 1: the pipe line, has the utmost confidence stead when said

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Speaker 1: he's been one of the most important players in this team.

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Speaker 1: We all should we should all have the utmost confidence

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Speaker 1: he's proven it. He's been great. And then after the game,

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Speaker 1: we saw Jazz Chisholm get thrown out in the ninth

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Speaker 1: inning on what was a questionable strike call. Been a

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Speaker 1: little and maybe not as much as the Marlins announcers

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Speaker 1: led you on to believe. Yeah, the Marlins broadcast was

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Speaker 1: kind of blowing out for abortion. Jazz tweet out terrible.

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Speaker 1: A fan replied saying, you're talking about your stats against

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Speaker 1: left handed pitching or the call, and Jazz replied with

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Speaker 1: talking about your mama, which Jazz is one of the

539
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Speaker 1: most exciting players in baseball, whether you're a Met fan

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Speaker 1: or not, to appreciate the guy.

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Speaker 2: He's someone that I will reluctantly call the coolest player

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Speaker 2: in baseball. Sad let's on technically arrival, even though I

543
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Speaker 2: don't know if the Marlins arrivals with the Mets. They're

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Speaker 2: in the same division.

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Speaker 1: I get that.

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Speaker 2: But Jazz chizoem comes from our generation. He's basically about

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Speaker 2: our age and we grew up. The second time he's

548
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Speaker 2: even used yamama joke this year from the time where

549
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Speaker 2: he got plunked. Yeah, and he said, Jolia mama, we grew.

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Speaker 1: Up on ya mama. Jokes.

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Speaker 2: We had the Yo Mama Show on MTVA. We were

552
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Speaker 2: ripping Yo Mama jokes and shout out the school.

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Speaker 1: Shut out Wilmldama. Yes, which that's a name that semi

554
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Speaker 1: show as well, But yeah, Yo Mama jokes are always great.

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Speaker 1: Jazz is just one of the great young players in

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Speaker 1: the game. Like I said, even if you're you know,

557
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Speaker 1: a Mets fan, you could appreciate what he does. He's

558
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Speaker 1: he watches my YouTube videos. That's crazy, that's crazy. He's fun.

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Speaker 1: He's a lot of fun. Any more players in the

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Speaker 1: league like Jazz. And then did you catch because Lewin Diaz,

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Speaker 1: who I'm a huge fan of lowen ds too, just

562
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Speaker 1: as a player in general, But did you catch that

563
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Speaker 1: his stuff didn't make it when he got called up?

564
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Speaker 1: So we had no glove, no bats, no anything, and

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Speaker 1: the first base coach just started beating the hell out

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Speaker 1: of his glove.

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Speaker 2: First base coach for the Marlins Keith Johnson, And that

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Speaker 2: brought our own Keith Keith hernandez Mets broadcaster too. Whatever's

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Speaker 2: more intense and a cringe is what Keith was doing,

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Speaker 2: just being so uncomfortable by the way that first bass

571
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Speaker 2: club was being mangled and manhandled by the bat.

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Speaker 1: Which was an interesting scene to see. Game two though

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Speaker 1: another win the books, so the Mets at least split

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Speaker 1: the series, but as we know, we want to win

575
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Speaker 1: the series and ends up being okay. But Game three

576
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Speaker 1: was a.

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Speaker 2: Pitvot, little one, pivotal one just because, and we mark

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Speaker 2: this before the series. You're facing Sandi al Concera, who

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Speaker 2: is literally one of the best pitchers in baseball.

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Speaker 1: He's probably the cy young favorite right now in the

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Speaker 1: National League.

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Speaker 2: He's probably pitching the best. He's the best healthy pitcher

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Speaker 2: in the National League right now.

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Speaker 1: I think that's say. He's gone like seven innings plus

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Speaker 1: in almost all of his starts. We talked about that

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Speaker 1: with Walker Bueler last year. He's a workhorse, He's got

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Speaker 1: great stuff and he's really really hard to hit well.

588
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Speaker 2: Sandy's averaging almost eight innings per start over his last

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Speaker 2: five starts.

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Speaker 1: That's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: There's no one else in baseball does anything close to that.

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Speaker 2: He is a horse in the truest sense of the word.

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Speaker 1: But somehow, in some way, our guy Chris pass It

594
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Speaker 1: was going toe to toe with him from the beginning

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Speaker 1: in this dogfight of starting pitchers. Yeah, to see because

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Speaker 1: I know, I feel like like a few starts to go.

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Speaker 1: People we're talking about Basset struggling a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: the last dude now he's been lights out. He's been great.

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Speaker 1: Talk about our pitching being so important, especially with Scherzer

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Speaker 1: and de Gram on the IL coming back soon hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Chris Bassett has just been one of the best pickups

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Speaker 1: I think in all of baseball this entire year. A

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Speaker 1: steady hand.

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Speaker 2: Bass has been very steady, just like we mentioned Carrascoa,

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Speaker 2: just like we mentioned Taiwan since he altered his repertoire,

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Speaker 2: very very steady and trading zeros with Sandy a Contra

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Speaker 2: for five innings.

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Speaker 1: There's no easy feet, not at all. No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: The bast To Hounds were out. I had to do

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Speaker 1: that for the first episode. He's just he's awesome. He's great,

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Speaker 1: and like you said, going to Totoe with one of

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Speaker 1: the best pitchers in baseball is awesome. It just would

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Speaker 1: have been nice if the metsica scored a few more runs,

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Speaker 1: especially early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But ironically and kind of sadly, we did scratch

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Speaker 2: off the first run in this pitcher's duel, and that

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Speaker 2: gave me way too much confidence that we were gonna

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Speaker 2: find a way to pull this one out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about Lindor the first two games having

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Speaker 1: a great series. He drove in the first run after

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Speaker 1: a two out of triple by Starling Marte where he

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Speaker 1: really liked this one out fine. He was running, especially

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Speaker 1: for a guy who's had problems with the hamstrings in

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Speaker 1: the quad and all that, it's great to see that

625
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Speaker 1: he was running. Probably the besties ran all year.

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Speaker 2: And Lindor just fighting off a tough pitch from Sandy

627
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Speaker 2: getting a little single, little dooinker up the middle, get

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Speaker 2: the run in situational hitting from Francisco Lindor really love to.

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Speaker 1: Say it runers and scoring position doing it again. Confidence.

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Speaker 2: But we came back for the bottom of the seventh

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Speaker 2: inning and then things were not so great. Kind of instantly,

632
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Speaker 2: Miguel Rojas, one of Mark's highest ranked short stops year

633
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Speaker 2: after year in his YouTube channel, gotta leadoff single. Jacob

634
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Speaker 2: Stalling's got a one out single and at this point

635
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Speaker 2: Chris Basset had just crossed one hundred pitch threshold. The

636
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Speaker 2: Marlins were getting through their third time through the order,

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Speaker 2: and it was a moment where a lot of the

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Speaker 2: the Twitter managers in the hindsight the artists did think

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Speaker 2: that he could Chris Bassett could have been yet, well,

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Speaker 2: let's be.

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Speaker 1: One of those because I think this is a legitimate

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Speaker 1: discussion to have. Should Bassett have come out for the inning?

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Speaker 1: Should he have been taken out after the first hit

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Speaker 1: or the second hitter? I mean, what would you have done?

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Speaker 1: Because I know my answer. I'm taking him out after

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Speaker 1: the Miguel Rojas leadoff, So yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the same bow as you, one hundred percent.

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00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: After that first single, I would have taken him out.

649
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: But I also don't fault Buck for leaving him in.

650
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: Maybe after the second single. I would have really taken

651
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: a hard look at it. But Bassett was.

652
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: Cruising so hard in this game. He had season high

653
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: nine strikeouts. The balls weren't particularly scorched either.

654
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins his entire game had about four

655
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: heart hit balls like it was just kind of balls

656
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: finding holes. I understand this a little bit of what

657
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna have with a more old school type team,

658
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: old school type manager. You want nursery started through it,

659
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: especially one of your more veteran starters, especially someone has

660
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: been one of your more reliable star theres, someone was

661
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: consistently pitched late into games, more so than most of

662
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: your other starles.

663
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: This year, it just did not work out. No, it didn't,

664
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: and unfortunately the Marlin starred chipping away and it came

665
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: with a big swing of the bat from the legend.

666
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: I want to say before we talk about Jarro and

667
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Canasion and his massive major league debut, one of the

668
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: most impressive major league debut is literally statistically ever, Yeah,

669
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: he had me back against Brian de la Cruz, who

670
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: Mets fans remember from last September having a lot of

671
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: big at bats against us.

672
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: We talked about Met killers a lot. Brian de la

673
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: Cruz is a guy who seemingly has only ever played

674
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: well against the New York Mets. Don't think it's seemingly.

675
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: I think it's leather all but it's just unbelievable when

676
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: he comes against the Orange Blue this that bat, Chris

677
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Bassett had really seemed to have lost it because he

678
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: was only throwing sinkers and sliders at this point. Those

679
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: are two pitches that Bassett leans on the most, and

680
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: you can kind of see he was trying to nit edges.

681
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: He was not really hitting them high low inside their

682
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: outside and the two singers he digged over the plate

683
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: were literally right down the middle, and Brian de la

684
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: Cruz put a good hack on one of them. The

685
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: three to two pitch was a slider he completely lost

686
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: the grip of and you saw him kind of like

687
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: not WinCE, but kind of just you could see frustration

688
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: in Bassett as he came off the mound, knowing he

689
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: was gonna get yanked and knowing that he was leaving

690
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: Seth Lugo in a less than ideal situation. Yep, going

691
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: up against Gerar and Karnassion. No relation to Edwin or one.

692
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't believe how we shadowed that wan during this

693
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: because I think they're like similar size. Yeah, those big

694
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: guys is a massive yuh being and we kind of

695
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: saw a little bit of that as.

696
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: We said the legend of Jurari and Carnassion was born.

697
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Against the Mets. He had a grand slam smoked at

698
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: the right field. I mean that ball got out and

699
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: felt like under five seconds. Ah hurry.

700
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: And this was situation for Seth Lugo where he did

701
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: get behind at Karnassi on early. He tried to get

702
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: him with the first pitch curveball that did not catch

703
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: the zone. It basically hung. We're almos kind happy that

704
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: Aencarnacion did not swing at that. Well, I mean, we

705
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: gave slam, so maybe, I know, maybe we would have

706
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: liked that. I guess that was the worst case snarow anyway.

707
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: And then there was a three one pitch that kind

708
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: of looked like it wasn't even a strike. I believe

709
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: it was a fastball on the outer edge that the

710
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: kind of gave Lugo a gift, which also wound up

711
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: biting the Mets in the ass because it wound up

712
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: being a Grand Slam.

713
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: But you hate that.

714
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: And then afterwards he said, Lugo just did he just

715
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it was shaken, but just

716
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: things things went wrong.

717
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: The wheels kind of fell off a little bit. Yeah,

718
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: he ended up walking. Jest, his own got driven in

719
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: on a John Birdy double talking about another Met killer,

720
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: John Birdy, another guy who I mean this year's actually

721
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: playing a little bit better. He forced all the bases

722
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: in the first two games of the series. Yeah, John

723
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: Birdy is a pest. If you're a Mets fan, you

724
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: know all about John Birdy being annoying. For the past

725
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: three four years that's been on the Marlins, Lugo has

726
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: been so hit or missed. This year he's had If

727
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: you look through his game logs, he either gives up

728
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: two runs or no runs. That's pretty much it. I

729
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are kind of on Lugo

730
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. We know in Game four he

731
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: ended up not being there because of the paternity. Think

732
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance he just had bigger things

733
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: on his mind, like, oh, my wife is pregnant, could

734
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: be having a baby. He's been so great for this team.

735
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: I would not lose faith yet. I definitely without lose faith.

736
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: And we've been kind of help telling people to stick

737
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: with Seth Lugo through this because it's kind of just

738
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more of an execution thing than a

739
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: stuff thing. It's stuff bi all metrics. It still wear,

740
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: it has always been. It's just a matter of I

741
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: think sequencing, a matter of which pitches he's throwing, and

742
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: just a matter of command. And you fall behind a

743
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: guy three to one with power with the bases loaded,

744
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: you don't leave yourself that much.

745
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Room for error anymore. No, and I will say this

746
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: something the Mets have done all year long. Which was

747
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: really nice is they did answer back immediately McNeil, Jeff

748
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: mckidt's got a double and followed by our boy Luiski

749
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: or may King Louis getting a single. But it just

750
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: ended there. The Mets tried to chip back. This is

751
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: one of the few times that they couldn't, but it

752
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: really did feel like another game where the Mets were

753
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna somehow sneak this one away at that moment.

754
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a term that we've dubbed them this podcast

755
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: over the last few months, poopfest. We usually say that

756
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: the Mets like to have one poop fest per series.

757
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: This wasn't that. We didn't really have one this series.

758
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: This was a game we lost, But I wouldn't really

759
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: say that the Marls played better than us. They put

760
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: the bat on the ball one time when they really

761
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: needed to.

762
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: They only had four hard balls, Like we mentioned earlier,

763
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: the entire game, Lindor had three on his own.

764
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Is tough luck loss that happens. And carnassion literally, I

765
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: mean he threw out Nido on that ball to right

766
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: field that he smoked, third amount and second in the

767
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: third inning, Gerar and Karnassion is the first player since

768
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: nineteen oh one, so essentially in the history of baseball,

769
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: because since we've tracked baseball statistics, Yeah, who cares about

770
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: prior to nineteen hundred To have a Grand Slam and

771
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: an outfield assist, it is major league debut. And oh,

772
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: just throw stolen base on top of that as well.

773
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: Ridiculous it happens on hundred and sixty two games. There's

774
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: gonna be some crazy stuff that goes on.

775
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mets. At the end of the day, we

776
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: got a good performance out of Bassett. That's where I'll

777
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: take the positives from that game. And we lost to

778
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: one of the best pitchers in baseball. I think right

779
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: now the pitcher in baseball is pitching the best, Yeah,

780
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: without a doubt. And that brings us to Game four

781
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: with a chance to either tie the series, break even

782
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: two two, or win it three one. And that is

783
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: a big difference. I feel like in a four game series,

784
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: that two to two, three to one difference is huge,

785
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: massive difference, massive difference to the team, massive difference to

786
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: the standings, and massive difference to the way the fans

787
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: feel after series against the marl is a home series

788
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: where you saw two wins and then you saw the

789
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Mets lose a game that people are upset about because

790
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: there's this kind of bullpen narrative brewing about the Mets,

791
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: which I don't really think is actually that true. No,

792
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: because right now the Mets bullpen has the second highest

793
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: strikeout rate in baseball and the twelfth lowest ERA, So

794
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: I think this bullpen overall is still at least in

795
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: like the sixtieth percentile ISSH of bullpens in baseball and

796
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: getting hopefully one of their better pitchers coming back within

797
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: the next few weeks and Trevor May. This is not

798
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: an error that we want to build down, but it

799
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: still left people feeling a little bit like we needed

800
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: to do something on Monday to end this series. And

801
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: the Mets did. They got it started like they have

802
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: almost every game this year. In the first sitting, Nimo

803
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: scorched the double off of Trevor Rodgers, who's been struggling

804
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, Marte smoked the ball, reached on nir

805
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: and then Lindor single, and the Mets were cooking right there.

806
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: Canna Rbi walk with the bases loaded, Pete and JD

807
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: did struggle a little bit. They shruck out, and I

808
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: was kind of getting a little bit nervous. But as

809
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: Mark Kana has done seemingly since the beginning of June,

810
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: he has just continued to get on base. He has

811
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: been one of the best in baseball.

812
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: Like you just said, Mark Mets, we're attacking on runs consistently.

813
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: We tacked on two more in the fourth after a JD.

814
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: Davis walk, Jeff McNeil double at while the Westcobar sack

815
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: fly scoring JD and Trevor Rodgers wild pitch scoring McNeil.

816
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: But something all unfortunate and Jeff MacNeil came up after

817
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: kind of a hectic trip around the base is kind

818
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: of just grabbing at that hamstring, which is something I

819
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: really really did not want to see tonight.

820
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking because he's been so vital to

821
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: this team all year long. You look at a lot

822
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: of their big ginnings, you look at their big rallies.

823
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil is at the middle of it. The dude

824
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: just puts the ball and play consistently, and I mean

825
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: he does it. The best in baseball are good always

826
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: at the end of it.

827
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Being a guy who is so skilled at getting in

828
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: runners with two outs. Yeah, so one of the best

829
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: in baseball that too, no stat to prove that, but

830
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it hit.

831
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: Against the shift. He got the double here. We talked

832
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: about it earlier, how great he's been against the shift.

833
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: When will teams learn? But we also don't care. We

834
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: don't want you to learn. Keep being dumb.

835
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I have a feeling that Jeff McNeil,

836
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: if teams started not shifting him again, he would start

837
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: becoming poll happy Jeff again and just put everything in

838
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: between first and second base.

839
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: Probably, honestly, you're right, he's so he's so good with

840
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: the bat, like, he controls it so well that he

841
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: can basically put it wherever he wants. And we know

842
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: how good a golfer he is, great golfer, one of

843
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: the Probably I don't know about the rest of the Mets,

844
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: but you gotta assume he's one of the best. I

845
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: would hope so.

846
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: And then just tacking out another run, pe Alonzo has

847
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: sacrifice fly the inning after they make this game four nothing.

848
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: This is the mets second sacrifice fly during this game.

849
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: If anybody was with us last year, you remember us

850
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: harping on the fact that the Mets were incapable of

851
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: getting any sacrifice flies. There was a while during the

852
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: dog days of the summer it looked like the Mets

853
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: were in contention for having the least sacrificed flies ever

854
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: in a Major League baseball season. They got over that number, luckily.

855
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: I believe the number was eighteen. The Mets wound up

856
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: around twenty three. But the Mets now have twenty seven

857
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: sacrifice flies on the season. That is already more than

858
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: they had all of last year with twenty three. And

859
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: what does that indicate to you guys as fans. They're

860
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: just playing better baseball.

861
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: This isn't necessarily like a success thing like the best

862
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: teams have more sacrifice flies, but it shows that, like

863
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: the process is good, something that we talk about a

864
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: lot on this podcast. They're getting in those guys from

865
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: third base with less than two outs, which is huge.

866
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: Another big part of this guys getting to third base

867
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: with less than two outs, and the Mets weren't doing

868
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: last year. This pee Alonzo sacrifice fly. This was right

869
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: after another inning where Nimo and Marte got onto start

870
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: an inning with nobody out of Francisco indoor hill fly

871
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: ball and Marte very cerebrally tagged from second to third

872
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: with only one now to allow himself to score on

873
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: Pete's fly ball.

874
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they've literally had the fifth best success

875
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: rate scoring runners from third with less than two outs

876
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: entering today. So that's a lead. New team, new team,

877
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: completely new team, completely new players. We see it on

878
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: the field every single game. Absolutely all.

879
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: This was very good, But something that made it very

880
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: much better is that David Peterson was very on on

881
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon one of what I thought was his most

882
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: impressive starts ever.

883
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: In his career. It was a weird one, especially being

884
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: in the stadium to see him kind of constantly get

885
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: guys in position on base like first and second. It

886
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: felt like almost every other inning they were getting on.

887
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: But he was then able to limit it well.

888
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Literally in this game, every inning besides the fourth, at

889
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: least two batthers did reach base against David Peterson.

890
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Crazy. But the other side of that is he was

891
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: a with.

892
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: God today nineteen with second most in a single star

893
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: for Peterson's entire career, with the most being a tense

894
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: trackout game in September of twenty twenty against Atlanta. Nine

895
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: of those whiffs came on the slider and that pitch

896
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: was very, very gross all afternoon got the pitching Ninja treatment.

897
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Shout out, pitching Ninja. I think a little bit of

898
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: that was because this was the only game going on,

899
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: probably on a Monday afternoon, but slyer was still gross anyway,

900
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: tweeted out the video, just especially that back foot, that

901
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: back of slider has been so so so important to

902
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: David Peterson's development and the fact that teams can stack

903
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 2: the lineup with righty's against him and he can use

904
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: that pitch still has an now pitch still has a weapon,

905
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: and still as a whiffable pitch. That's all you need.

906
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: And this is the third most slyly whiffs that Peterson's

907
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: ever had in a game. So just keep harping on

908
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: the fact that this slyder has changed David Peterson's outlook tremendously,

909
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: along with the fastball that he's now using instead of

910
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: his old sinker.

911
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: And real quick just for the new listeners, because I

912
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: know we've talked about with rate a lot this episode,

913
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: just give a little insight as to why wiff rate

914
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: is so important. Withff rate is.

915
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: As many times as a player swings and misses out

916
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: of pitch over the amount of pitches they swung at

917
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: in general. So you're seeing the fact that pitchers with

918
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: this pitch from Peterson hits are offering at it, and

919
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: as much as they're offering at it, they're swinging missing

920
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: at a high rate.

921
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: And as we know, less bows and plays better for

922
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: the picture, better for the picture. And that's exactly what

923
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: David Peterson did today. He's a completely new pitcher and

924
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: I really love the way he's looking. Love it.

925
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: And another big thing about Peterson's development is something you

926
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: allude to before, with the having constant trouble and getting

927
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: out of it. Peterson is a guy in the past

928
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: who we've seen kinds similar Stephen Matts get kind of

929
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: like wear his emotions on his sleeve, and that seems

930
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: like he's really really put that behind him so far

931
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: this year, we mentioned there were at least two men

932
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: who reach base in every inning.

933
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: But one on Monday.

934
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: One of those things I think there was double play.

935
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Another one I think jump Brady got picked off to y. Yeah,

936
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: so it wasn't like there was like men not constantly, constantly, constantly,

937
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 2: But in this game, the Mardins were zero for seven

938
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: with runners in scoring position against David Peterson, and going

939
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: back from his last four starts, opposing batlers are two

940
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: for nineteen with runs and scoring position against David Peterson.

941
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 2: This man is bearing down when the going gets tough

942
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: and he is executing. And also with that bearing down,

943
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: David Peterson pitcheds the entire game with the impending birth

944
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: of his child. Yeah, I mean a little bit of

945
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: pressure on him too, right, well, there was even like

946
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: an idea, there was even posible he wasn't going to

947
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: be able to pitch his game today because of how

948
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: close his life.

949
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: His wife was two labor.

950
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: So shout out David Peterson for doing everything he had

951
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: to again in the mound today and doing everything he

952
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: has to with his family.

953
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: Now, Ottavino came in after him, relieved him, and Ottavino

954
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: has sneaky been good this year. You asked me during

955
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: the game to guess his era, and I said four

956
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: to one. Yeah, not even close. No, it's in the

957
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: two eights, not even close. He's been great. And this

958
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: is something that both of us said during the offseason.

959
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: We want Adam Otavino. He's just a really solid relief pitcher.

960
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: We've seen it all.

961
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: Year, especially as such a comfortable guy that haves like

962
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: your third or fourth best reliever given given a healthy

963
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: bullpen's incredible. Adam of the Vino has allowed one earned

964
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: run over his last eighteen appearances and has stranded his

965
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: last six inherited runners on base, which is really impressive.

966
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: Inherited runners are kind of almost supposed to come home

967
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: and he has just been locking them down.

968
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

969
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: I mean again, he's not awesome. There have been some

970
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: instances this year where Oddivino has allowed some runs to score.

971
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: But the fact that this guy is a phrase we

972
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: also like to use a lot eighteen bullpen Beat Team Bullpen,

973
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: See team Bullpen. Adam Alavino is running the beat team

974
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: right now and he's been very, very very good at it.

975
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. We tacked on two more later in

976
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the game Eduardo Escobar, who had been kind of ice

977
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: cold I think is a nice way to say it. Yeah,

978
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: he has sacrifice fly early in this game.

979
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: So now I made three RBIs for Eduardo escabambs another

980
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: nickname for you guys. Even though he hasn't had that

981
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: many home runs this year, someone'st to like to call

982
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: him because it flows off the tongue broken over twenty

983
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: six though. For Edwardo, so happy to see him get

984
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: off the schneid and.

985
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: The Mets win another series. Mets win another series. Take

986
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: it yeah, give a high five. First first series for

987
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: the Mets up Boys being the official podcast of the

988
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: New York Mets, and we get to win. Take a

989
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: deep breath. Everything's gonna be okay, We're gonna be good. Yes,

990
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: that was important to us. We need to get that

991
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: series winning for the first episode.

992
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: And also very important to the fans of the City Field.

993
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to all you guys, because there were great

994
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: crowds for all four games of this series. There's a

995
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: very good chance on a Monday afternoon that we were

996
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: not going to have a great crowd.

997
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: I was shocked how many people were here. It was.

998
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: This was one of the loudest more like like not

999
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: loud like his terms game loud, but like chatter loud

1000
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: I've heard for any game this entire season. Very good

1001
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: crowd to they shout out of our friends that we

1002
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: made in section I believe one fourteen yep Elon and

1003
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: Mark Mark with the Sea as well the Right Way,

1004
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Mark with c as well well they were they lived

1005
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: in West Fields for a period of time just like

1006
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: we did, which was kind of hilarious, giving us a

1007
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: shout out being shocked that we were the official podcasters

1008
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: of the New York Mets. That was fun to interact

1009
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: with the fans. Yeah, it was pretty cool to see

1010
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: our promo go up on the board and then have

1011
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: like people on Twitter tweeting had us at mess upper

1012
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: at our personal accounts being like, Hey, look at that.

1013
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: This is sick. This is so cool. It's really awesome

1014
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: that you guys are also excited, because I don't know

1015
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: if you can tell, we're pretty excited to be doing this. Yeah,

1016
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: pretty exciting. And then a couple more stats to just

1017
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: wrap up this series.

1018
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: We saw a lot of run scoring opportunities being cashed

1019
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: in by Francisco Lindoor and Peter Alonzo. Have they've done

1020
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: all season with Starling Martin and Brandimo getting on base

1021
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: seemingly at will ahead of them, Francisco Indoor and Peter

1022
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: Alonzo at the end of play on Monday, have combined

1023
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: for one hundred and sixteen RBIs this season. That is

1024
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: by far the most of any duo in all of baseball,

1025
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: ahead of Nolan r and now that and Paul Goldschman,

1026
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: the one hundred and three RBIs and Aaron Judge and

1027
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: Anthony Rizzo and ninety eight RBIs. So just our best

1028
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: players playing their best baseball, catalyzing us to more victories.

1029
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Lindork's are furious right now. The guy's just the guy.

1030
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: It's just really good. I don't know how many times

1031
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: we have to tell you he's one of the best

1032
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: shortstops in baseball.

1033
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: Everybody vote Peel Alonzo, Francisco Lindor, Brandon Nimmos, Starling Marte, Marcanda,

1034
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil, and Luis ki Orme for the All Star

1035
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: And we really want Yormy to get in there. If

1036
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: you can write him in, find a spot for him.

1037
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: If we just get Luis Giorman mentioned for getting votes, I.

1038
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: Think that's a win. Get him on a board anything,

1039
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: be sick, but get magine getting into the final vote.

1040
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: Did you hear Buck before the game he was talking

1041
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: about that they think in the All Star Game there

1042
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: should be a utility position that should be voted on.

1043
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: He's like, they're extremely valuable to these teams, and I

1044
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know why. It's just kind of been pushed to

1045
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: the side. That's also like a big piece of modern

1046
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: baseball too. Almost every team has one of these guys

1047
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: on their bench that could play like either every outfield

1048
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: position or multiple infield positions, just because having that will

1049
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: allow you to carry an extra pitcher.

1050
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: We know how badly every single team wants to carry

1051
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: an extra pitcher in modern baseball. Yeah, and you talk

1052
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: about pitching too. The Mets have been great.

1053
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: That was their eleventh shutout of the year, tied with

1054
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: the Yankees for the most in baseball. They only had

1055
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: eight all of last year. We're here on June twentieth

1056
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: and they have eleven. The pitching has been lights out,

1057
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: along with great offense, great bullpen.

1058
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: But I want to throw back to that starting pitching

1059
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: because we on this podcast, if you guys heard us,

1060
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 2: we're a little bit nervous about how our pitching was

1061
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: going to stack up with Max Schars are going down

1062
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: only about a month ago at this point. Yeah, but

1063
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: a great month that's been because Carlos Carrasco, Taiwan Walker,

1064
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: David Peterson, and Chris Bassett, our four pitchers that we

1065
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: saw in this series all have really really stepped up

1066
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: in the wake of Max Scherzs's injury. Carrasco's won five

1067
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: games since Cinchurzer went down, Taiwan's won four, Peterson's won three.

1068
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: The eras Taiwan has a two point four to eight

1069
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: ERA since mac Shay's injury, and all of them are

1070
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: giving us at least five, six or even seven innings

1071
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: per start over that stretch, saving our bullpen, allowing us

1072
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: to kind of work these bullpen games into the schedule.

1073
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: Just over good thing the team in position to win

1074
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: seemingly every single night. You can't understate how important this

1075
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: starting rotation has been to the met success without their

1076
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: two best guys.

1077
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a few baseball buzzwords here, gutty performances,

1078
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Speaker 1: gotty performance to goutty performances by these Mets starters. And

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Speaker 1: it's nice too because Suzer is making his rehab start

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Speaker 1: either this week I think in Binghamton Tuesday, Binghamton to

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Speaker 1: James McCann, which is also cool because that's a cool

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00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: way to get them back in the flow of things.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to get Max chers are back, and Jacob

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00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: de Gram has been at the stadium throw and doing

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00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: stuff all over the place. So we're hope, we hope

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Speaker 1: to see him back soon too, praying. And then just

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Speaker 1: one thing that I've noticed too, we talk about the catching.

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Speaker 1: James McCann just mentioned his name. How about Tomas Nedo.

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Speaker 1: He's been catching an insane amount of games and it's

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Speaker 1: I don't think any detriment to Patrick Mazika. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just more of a boost, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a compliment to Nito. The pitchers love throwing to him.

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Speaker 1: I think Bassett gave him massive praise or after his

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Speaker 1: last start, saying that Nito is one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why he's able to be so successful. While Nido's numbers

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Speaker 1: may not light it up on the page on the

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Speaker 1: stat book, defensively, what he's been able to do as

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Speaker 1: a catcher, he's been so immensely valuable to this team.

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Speaker 1: And also hitting in the nine spot, he's been able

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Speaker 1: to work some walks, flip over that top of the order.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers aren't gonna make you excited, but

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Speaker 1: he's been having an impact on this team.

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Speaker 2: No especially the way he his approach runs, his scoring

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Speaker 2: position has been very impressive. And how often do you

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Speaker 2: look back at the series, especially a four game series.

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Speaker 2: And you see that one guy caught all four games. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not many times.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a warrior back there, absolute beast. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Tomas Nido. He's been, like you said, a warrior. Now,

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Speaker 1: we do have a little bit of a short game

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Speaker 1: series coming up here. We're gonna talk about the Astro

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Speaker 1: series out in Houston. Two games. So we went from

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Speaker 1: a four game to a two game series. Now, what

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Speaker 1: are the pitching matching matchups looking like? James pitching matchups?

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night we're gonna have Trevor Williams going against jose

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: or Keithy And Wednesday afternoon two ten start eight ten

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00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: on Tuesday to ten on Wednesday, Carls carrasco versus Luis Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not sure how Rakety has been pitching this year.

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Speaker 1: Rakkety has not been pitching that well. But Rkety is

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Speaker 1: a guy who is he?

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Speaker 2: I will call him kitchen sink guy, kind of like

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: I just said for Braxon Garrett. But this stuff is

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00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: a better across the board. Or Ketty has a very

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00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: very very good circle change up from the left side.

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Speaker 2: He's not really gonna scare you though, with velocity or

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00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: breaking stuff, but that change up is very good. The

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00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Mets have struggled little bit this year against kind of

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Speaker 2: soft throwing lefties or kety was this is gonna sound

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00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. Key was kind of just like built

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Speaker 2: in the Astro's pitching lab. They kind of designed every

1131
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: single one of his pitches to have like perfectly aligned

1132
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: movement in terms of what modern baseball seeks. So you're

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00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: gonna see like he's gonna break off good slide, he's

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00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: gonna break off good curveballs. Again, the change up is

1135
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: the weapon. Fastball has good ride, has a good shape.

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Speaker 2: It's not really thrown in a way it's gonna make

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Speaker 2: you very scared of it. I don't think the Mets

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00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: can't hit Jose Rikitty. I'm a little worried about the

1139
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: Astros hitting Trevor Williams, though hopefully Jordan Alvarez still has

1140
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: a sore hand.

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00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: He's not playing in this game.

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00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: Because Jordon Alvarez is hitting like I think it's four

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00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: to fifteens is beginning a mag I mean, this.

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00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Entire Astros lineup is loaded with you are, Don Alvarez,

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00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, Alex Bregman. I mean, the list goes to

1146
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Jose Al Tuve. How could I forget him? I mean,

1147
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. The team is absolutely loaded.

1148
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: Michael Bradley probably one of the most boring players, but

1149
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: he's great.

1150
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Speaker 2: And a big part of this Astros team is that

1151
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: this year they have one of the best bullpens in baseball,

1152
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: something that They've always had good bullpens the last few years,

1153
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: but it's been a lot of like pop up, like

1154
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: the Astros guys that come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: This year.

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00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: Mets fans are gonna really hate that they've turned Rafael

1157
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: Montero into a bona fide weapon at the pen.

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00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Signed. I believe Kendall Graveman too. No Graveman was there.

1159
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: Cut Ryan Presley in the back end is lights ow.

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00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: He's incredible reliever. This team. Hector Nari's old friend. As

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: we predicted last year, the Astros have fixed him pretty

1162
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: pretty easily. He's also very good.

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Speaker 2: So if you do fall down early to his Astros team,

1164
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: I think they have the highest ballpen car rating Baseball

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00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: on top five bullpen e ra oh yeah, very very good.

1166
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Speaker 2: And then coming on Wednesday's game, I think Louis Garcia

1167
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Speaker 2: is a very fun pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Rock the Baby. Yeah. He If you guys want to

1169
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: see rhythm, Louis Garcia has rhythm. Yeah. If you're either

1170
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: gonna love watching him pitch or if you like guys,

1171
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: if you like the Won Soto shuffle, you'll probably like

1172
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Luis Garcia rock in the Baby. It's a little Johnny

1173
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: quato ish in how he just tries to change up

1174
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: his rhythm a little bit. Or you're gonna hate him

1175
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: and you say throw the ball, stop messing around. It's

1176
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: also built like a linebacker.

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00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: He's one of the thickest, thickest boys in all baseball,

1178
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: with some really fun like curly long hair come out

1179
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: of the back of his hat. Again, hasn't been as

1180
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: good this year as he was when he burst onto

1181
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: the scene as a rookie. His big pitch is a

1182
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: color ball's gonna be in play. Yeah, the Astra's played

1183
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: generally good defense. I'm just hoping that the Mets can

1184
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: kind of jump out in front of him and sad

1185
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: sad and a little bittersweet to throwing a word that

1186
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: we use a lot of this podcast, The Mets are

1187
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: going to miss. Jeremy Pany in the series was on

1188
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: the IL I believe a thumb talented blurr yo, very

1189
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Speaker 2: talented player, one of the best young players of all

1190
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: baseball was in the cap Arts seats for Rookie of

1191
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: the Year. We'll see how quickly comes back, see if

1192
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: he can secure that award. But bittersweet that you're gonna

1193
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: miss watching one of the most exciting young players, but

1194
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have to face one of the most

1195
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Speaker 2: exciting young players.

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Speaker 1: Last shot out, I'm gonna give us a personal one

1197
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: shout to Brandon Black, who I played baseball with throughout

1198
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: high school. He's on the Astros. He's a Jersey kid,

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Speaker 1: so that'll be cool to see him pitch against the

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00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Mets and hopefully we rock him. Sorry, Brandon, hope we

1201
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: hit you.

1202
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: Black was one of I believe ten or eleven pitchers

1203
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: all season last year relief pitchers to have at least

1204
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: a twenty percent whifth rate on three different pitches.

1205
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: Listen to these stats that were dropping crazy. We got

1206
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: all the stats for you guys. If you if you're

1207
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: trying to learn a little bit about baseball, and we'll

1208
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: get the recap with the Mets, is your spot definitely

1209
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: and as a close something, we're gonna try and like,

1210
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: give a show some new segments. This episode, we're gonna

1211
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be.

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Speaker 2: A more Mets games are gonna be in the ballpark

1213
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: a lot more. We're gonna try and shout out the

1214
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: craziest jersey that we see from every single series. And

1215
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: Mark today saw what I think is one of the

1216
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: craziest jerseys that's ever Great City Field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was walking across the Shape bridge. I didn't

1218
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: talk to the guy. I probably should have. Probably should

1219
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: have got his name so I could give him a

1220
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: shout out. That was a botch job by me. But

1221
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: I stopped in my tracks because I saw a James

1222
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Loney jersey. James Loney, who is someone that I think

1223
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: we joke about on this podcast many of times that

1224
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: he was a first baseman for this team. I don't

1225
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: even know where you buy one of those that feels

1226
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: like you have to do a custom job. Is he

1227
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: a Loney family member that feels like you got that

1228
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: jersey that August he was on the team and they

1229
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: were just like trying to pump things out and sell things. Now,

1230
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: how great this mess organization is that been making money?

1231
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: Is war war on organization? We got going here?

1232
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: You get James Looney on the team, someone who is

1233
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: not gonna be the team very long. You sell that

1234
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: jersey and this guy bought one.

1235
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe may have picked that game, maybe like a

1236
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: walk off hit that game or something, and the guy

1237
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: like made a bet like wine with you. Yeah, that

1238
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: could be like my Trevor may bet where I James.

1239
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: If James only gets a hit here, I'm buying the jersey. Yeah.

1240
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: The Patrick Mozica tweet, I'm good for one of those

1241
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: once a year, Patrick Musica. My first son will be

1242
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: named Patrick in case you guys didn't know that, because

1243
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: he hit the home run. I guess my Andres Munyo's

1244
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: eh man, I'll never forget it. It's gonna be etched

1245
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: in the history of my family till the end of time.

1246
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: But I mean, first episode with the Mets, first time

1247
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: in the new studio. Ish. I don't know if we're

1248
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 1: gonna be here all the time. We might be moving around.

1249
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: We're here today, though, the things the sever room. Yeah,

1250
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: this is great. I'd love to be associated with Tom

1251
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: sever as much as physically possible. We're super excited. We're

1252
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: super fortunate that the Mets reached out to us and

1253
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part or have us be a

1254
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: part of our family. Couldn't be thankful enough. We have

1255
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: so many exciting things coming this week just alone. We

1256
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: have interviews with Tod zealand David Cohene coming out later

1257
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: this week. We went around asked fans about their black jerseys.

1258
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: We were talking to players like Adam Monavino, JD Davis,

1259
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Dom Smith on the field, asking them some questions. The

1260
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: amount of content that's gonna be coming from this podcast

1261
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: just got, I mean, significantly bigger, exponential. We're not even

1262
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: gonna be in charge with that anymore. No, it's gonna

1263
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: be nice. We get to just be behind the camera

1264
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: and have fun and give you guys good quality stuff.

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00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: And I mean, before we leave and they're about to

1266
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: sign off, if you want to shout out a few

1267
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: of our fans that we ran into on Saturday.

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Tyler one of their names. We saw

1269
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: a Tyler and a Randy. Yes, Witch shout out to

1270
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: you guys. We want to see you guys if you're

1271
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: at the ballpark, make sure you're letting us know when

1272
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: you're there. We're going to be at least one of

1273
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: us almost that every game as much as we can.

1274
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: James has a job, I do my YouTube thing. So

1275
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: while we're there, if you see us, say what's up,

1276
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: take a picture, say hi, ask us a question. We

1277
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: love talking about the Mets, we love talking about baseball,

1278
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: and we love interacting with you guys, the fans at home. Absolutely,

1279
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of the show.

1280
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: We kind of want to be like an intermediary between

1281
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: like you guys and the team because we are you guys,

1282
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: We are fans. We've been Mets fans since we were

1283
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: liberally infants. We've been coming to games from New Jersey,

1284
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: taking that ridiculous hour and a half commute back and forth,

1285
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: summers in college, summers in high school, weeknights, Sundays with

1286
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: our family, our dads, our moms, my sister, every single thing.

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Speaker 1: We have been with this team since we were conscious

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Speaker 1: human beings.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that we've had these opportunities incredible, and

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Speaker 2: we want this to be something that everybody, you guys especially,

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Speaker 2: can be happy about, can be proud of, and can

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Speaker 1: We'll say this, we are going to get you guys

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Speaker 1: involved in a lot more episodes too, So keep an

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Speaker 1: eye out for our Twitter or Instagram, wherever it's going

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Speaker 1: to be at mets up. Make sure you're following us everywhere.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing a male back episode as well

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Speaker 1: coming up too, so make sure you get us your questions.

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Speaker 1: And also we're gonna talk about crazy jerseys. They'll call

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Speaker 1: it action.

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Speaker 2: You guys, send us either the craziest jersey that you

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Speaker 2: guys have or the craziest one you've seen, maybe if

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Speaker 2: you snapped a picture. I have a picture of a

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Speaker 2: guy who wore Dan Warthen jersey a few weeks ago

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Speaker 2: because I have the Jeremy after New jersey.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a big, big nerd for pitching coaches.

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Speaker 2: So if you guys have a crazy jersey you've seen

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Speaker 2: and have a crazy jersey, you have throw that in

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Speaker 2: the comments on the tweet for this episode.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect way for us to wrap

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Speaker 1: up this episode. Guys, thanks so much for listening, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for watching. If you're over on YouTube, we

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Speaker 1: really do appreciate it. Make sure you're following us everywhere

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Speaker 1: at mets up. You can follow me at Draftneckmark, James

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Speaker 1: at James Ciana. Yeah no more of the other name.

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Speaker 1: He's now at James ciano and thanks for listening, thanks

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Speaker 1: for watching. We'll see on the next episode the Mess

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Speaker 1: Up Podcast. Peace Out, peace out, guys, see you next time.