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Speaker 1: Welcome to the twenty twenty four edition of the Marlins

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Speaker 1: Minor League Super Pod. Here on the fish on First

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Speaker 1: podcast channel. This is Eli Susman popping in for a

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Speaker 1: very quick intro to give you an idea of what

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Speaker 1: to expect from this conversation. Kevin Barrell Alex Carver had

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Speaker 1: it there swimming upstream, recording going level by level through

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Speaker 1: the Marlins organization, highlighting notable performers from this past season.

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Speaker 1: Due to the length of the pod, we split it

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Speaker 1: up into two separate parts. Part one that you're about

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Speaker 1: to listen to covers the DSL Marlins, DSL Miami FCL Marlins,

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Speaker 1: Low A Jupiter and High A Beloit. On the next

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Speaker 1: part on the same channel you're listening to this right now.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you get your podcast, you can find part two

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Speaker 1: about Double A Pensacola in Triple A Jacksonville. So here

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Speaker 1: is part one of that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Alrighty, we are back swimming upstream. It's been a very

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Speaker 3: long time, but is the second annual Minor League Super Pod.

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Speaker 3: So right now you will be watching the first of

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Speaker 3: I want to say, a couple episodes of this, just

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Speaker 3: assuming that this will be a very long podcast. I'm

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Speaker 3: your host, Kevin Brawl and here with the creator of

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Speaker 3: Swimming Upstream and mister Fish on the Farm, Alex Carver.

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Speaker 3: Alex always good to talk to him. And we're going

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Speaker 3: through each level today. We're starting with the DSL and

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Speaker 3: we're finishing with Triple A. So a lot of names,

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Speaker 3: a lot of storylines, and a lot of things to

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Speaker 3: look forward to in the off season and even just

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Speaker 3: you know, as spring training creeps upon us a little

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Speaker 3: by little, a lot of names that we're going to

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Speaker 3: be looking forward to, either to bounce back or to

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Speaker 3: continue doing what they with, you know, the hot start

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Speaker 3: they got off to and either their pro career or

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Speaker 3: just how good they may have been, you know about

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 2: But no a rebuilt system for sure. But the names

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Speaker 2: that have been here and the names that are here

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Speaker 2: and the names that have been here for a bit

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Speaker 2: are kind of the names that we're going to delve

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Speaker 2: more into today because the names that they brought back

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Speaker 2: mostly we're at the we're at the higher levels that

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Speaker 2: they brought in at the higher levels, you know, at

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline. Of course, we'll talk about those guys

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Speaker 2: the guys that we're going to talk about that are

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Speaker 2: you know, just starting out, that are just starting their careers.

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Speaker 2: The guys that have, you know, kind of made a

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Speaker 2: the system, I'm really interested in diving into those names

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Speaker 2: with you, Kevin. Those are the names that I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: really stoked about the names that I'm I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: interested into diving into with you here in the next

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Speaker 2: couple of I guess maybe hour to two hours. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited and so as always, make sure like to subscribe,

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Speaker 3: minor league baseball. This is a spot at least for

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Speaker 3: So let's get it going. Man. Let's start with the DSL.

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Speaker 3: A couple guys I want to dive into there, starting

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Speaker 3: with catching. Jeremy Almntu finished the season actually pretty well

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Speaker 3: what stands out to you about mister Jeremy Almonte, Still

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Speaker 3: very young player and probably goes to the FCL next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so al Monte really came on this year. This

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Speaker 2: And not to say that there isn't time for this.

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Speaker 3: Guy to succeed.

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Speaker 2: And there's new names in this organization and there's there's

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Speaker 2: But this guy really kind of showed it with the bat.

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Speaker 2: He looked pretty damn good projectable size and strength. I

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Speaker 2: that he he kind of kind of showed it out

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Speaker 2: It's tough to say that the full season, but down

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Speaker 2: there it kind of is that that he could do it,

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Speaker 3: So pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I was happy with him. He definitely improved down there,

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Speaker 3: Alrighty, this is your guy, Carver. We're gonna start talking

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Speaker 3: about him really earlier at the for minute MARKT. Joseph

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Speaker 3: Taylor finished the year hitting two to eighty four nineteen

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Speaker 3: seven home runs nineteen RBIs a one fifty three WRC plus.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna I'm gonna get you with that one

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Speaker 3: twenty three hit by pitch is something you don't really

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Speaker 3: see at least in dfcdds. So I'm sorry, but I'll

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Speaker 3: let you talk about him. He was the DSL Player

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Speaker 3: What credit to zu yet a nice here. I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: he's coming stateside and we'll see if that that keeps going.

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Speaker 3: At least I'll let you take as long as you want.

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Speaker 3: I'm Joseph Taylor. I don't think you've spoken about him

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Speaker 3: on many podcasts or even spaces though, so now as

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Speaker 3: you're time to shine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I really liked what I saw from Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy that came out and

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Speaker 2: again it's another guy that repeated a level. I totally

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Speaker 2: understand that it's a guy that repeated the level, but

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Speaker 2: when you lead the organization in w RC plus, that

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Speaker 2: opens eyes, right, and this guy, amongst all qualified players,

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Speaker 2: led led the organization in w RC plus, So that

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Speaker 2: opens your eyes a little bit to what this guy

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Speaker 2: saying that I'm overreacting to what he's done so far.

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Speaker 2: But what I am saying is that that opens your eyes.

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Speaker 2: And I thought he should have been ranked in our

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Speaker 2: top thirty. It didn't happen, which is okay. You guys

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Speaker 2: didn't agree, so that's how okay. But I think that

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Speaker 2: this guy, when he comes stateside next season, will show

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Speaker 2: what he can do if he matriculates for what he

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Speaker 2: had what he did this year. What I would say

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Speaker 2: for him is you know, the walk rate was decent,

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Speaker 4: I think the walk rate could be a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: So other than that, Other than the walk rate, I

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Speaker 2: really don't think that this guy did anything wrong or

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Speaker 2: to improve. Improved defensively as well at second base. We've

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Speaker 2: talked to people that say that this guy really made

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Speaker 2: That is awesome to see that he is starting to

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Speaker 2: I mean, he improved with the bat, he improved defensively,

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Speaker 2: he took all the steps he needed to take to

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Speaker 2: next season and be pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: So I think we'll be talking more about Joseph Taylor

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Speaker 3: Personally, I hope he proves what's wrong right now. He's

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Speaker 3: where we're probably just going to dive into those two

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Speaker 3: levels to begin with. This is a guy who didn't

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Speaker 3: think it's worth talking about a little bit. Abraham Ramirez,

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Speaker 3: in junior trade. I don't think we've really spoken about

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Speaker 3: him too much, but hit three forty eight, four forty seven,

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Speaker 3: twenty four RBIs and a one sixty to one WRG,

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Speaker 3: Did not see any action at shortstop, A lot of

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Speaker 3: it was at third base, second base. I think he

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Speaker 3: DHD a little bit. Didn't see any time with FCL Marlins.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming that he obviously probably went into that postseason camp.

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Speaker 3: I know they had a camp at Loon Deeple Parker

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Speaker 3: as well. Probably went to the DR I know they're

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Speaker 3: doing a lot of training over there as well. So

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Speaker 3: this is a guy who's kind of a hit or miss.

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Speaker 3: He's twenty years old, so still a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, at least from what we've seen, on

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Speaker 3: the Yankee side of things, and the organization also seems

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Speaker 3: to like it. We've heard a lot of good things

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Speaker 3: about him from the intronal side of things. So definitely

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Speaker 3: a name that stands out, and I think we'll be

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Speaker 3: definitely keeping an eye out at least durn spring training.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so lefty hitting righty, throwing second basement at age twenty,

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Speaker 2: came stateside with the Yankees. Didn't see him with the Marlins,

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Speaker 2: as you said, Kevin, didn't see him play with the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: But also a guy that repeated too well, repeated the

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Speaker 2: DSL in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three before

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Speaker 2: becoming stateside. So it kind of just shows that, you know,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean everything that a guy just repeats the

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Speaker 2: DSL and then can't turn into anything. This guy can

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Speaker 2: definitely be something. He could definitely be good sweet stroke

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Speaker 4: I like what I've seen from the films on this guy.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen him.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen him, you know, in person or with

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Speaker 2: the Marlins, and we haven't really gotten to know what

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Speaker 2: be stateside next year. I'm guessing he'll probably be a

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about Andres the lore. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, you called it. I mean, this guy should

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Speaker 3: First year state side.

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Speaker 2: This guy is so far ahead, so good will stick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what you really like is the fact that he

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Speaker 2: just like the lore so, I think he's damn good,

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Speaker 3: Alrighty only pitcher we'll touch on, at least with the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely worth noting. But a guy that's been in

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Speaker 2: But a lot of it starts. We're less innings, right,

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Speaker 3: All righty, let's go to low A Jupiter talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another guy I thought that should have

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00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,640
Speaker 2: pushed up to Jupiter. He was already there last year,

434
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 2: so I didn't really understand why they wouldn't have given

435
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 2: him time at Jupiter this year, but he did spend

436
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: all year at the FCL. I don't know if he

437
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 2: was working on certain things or whatever it may be,

438
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 2: but he looked really good at that level. You called

439
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 2: out the stats, so they speak for themselves. That playoff

440
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: game that he pitched against the Tigers was very good,

441
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 2: you know. I think he went scoreless innings. I think

442
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 2: it was like five scoreless that he went, which was

443
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 2: very good. Hammer breaking pitch, which is very good. Starting

444
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: to mix in more of a change up Velo's there.

445
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 2: I think he's around ninety three ninety four, but could

446
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 2: climb a little bit higher. I think he will as

447
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,719
Speaker 2: he gets more physical projection as well or comes by

448
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: more physical projection. So I think that that guy is

449
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: a player that the Marlins are very excited about. I

450
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: just think that he should have been challenged a little

451
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: bit more of this past year. I think he should

452
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: have been with Jupiter for at least part of the year.

453
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 2: There was room for him there. I don't I didn't

454
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: really get why he wasn't there, but I think that

455
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: he will be there and possibly even with the late

456
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 2: next season. That guy is going to be good.

457
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: Totally agree there, all right. Kinner Benitez, a guy who

458
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: the organization loves a lot, promoted very early on this season,

459
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: and the numbers with would Jupiter speak for themselves. A

460
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 3: three to one, a four to one, fifth nine typer nine,

461
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: a four walk per nine win in fifty seven and

462
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 3: two thirds innings pitched fastballs in the mid nineties. A

463
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: really nice change up and the starter traits are there.

464
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 3: Good chance he sticks there, Carvra. I don't think there's

465
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: much more to say about Kiner. They really like him.

466
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: I think there's a really good chance that I think

467
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 3: he'll start the season at Lowe, but I wouldn't be

468
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 3: shocked if he starts at blow. I mean, this organization

469
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: has been pushing a lot of guys recently, being very aggressive,

470
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 3: and Kiner already spent a lot of time there, so

471
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: who knows. Maybe he starts the year at at Beloit.

472
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, walks climbed up, climbed up a little bit with Jupiter,

473
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: you know, the walk rate was a little bit up.

474
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: I think that's the only thing that really hurt him.

475
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: But it's good Velo, it's good stuff. I definitely think

476
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: he has two advanced pitches with the makings of a third.

477
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: So I think that this guy is decent. I think

478
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: that he is is pretty good. I think that he

479
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: will possibly go up Yeah, I think I probably agree.

480
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's only eighteen, so there's no real rush

481
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: to push him up to Buloit. But I think that

482
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: he may start with Jupiter and possibly go up to

483
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 2: bil Wit later in the season. But he's advanced for

484
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: the age. I mean, it's only eighteen and he's already

485
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: proving that it could be pretty damn good at the

486
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: full season level. So I think he.

487
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: May start with Jupiter and may go up to bil

488
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: woit later in the season.

489
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 2: But we'll see what they decide to do. But no intrigue.

490
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: He limited runs very well, but I think maybe the

491
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: environment maybe helped him a little bit in in Jupiter.

492
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: You know that environment is very pitcher friendly.

493
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: I want to see more of this guy at different levels,

494
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: so I hope he makes it up to Beloit at

495
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 2: some point in twenty twenty five. I think that's probably

496
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 2: in the cards for him. But decent. I just think

497
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: the walk right climbing up is my only reservation. But

498
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: and maybe just building on that third pitch a little

499
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: bit more. We know he has a good fastball, decent slider,

500
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: he needs to build a third pitch a little bit more. So,

501
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that there's a reason why

502
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: this guy can't be a mid to back end rotation

503
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: piece in upcoming seasons.

504
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 3: Ellie iSER Dishmay is a guy who really struggled in

505
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: the second half of the season Carver, but still I

506
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: mean mid to high nineties. Has the secondary stuff just

507
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: got hit really really hard. And it's concerning because we

508
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: were just talking about a pitcher friendly environment, and I mean,

509
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: he did not make it seem like that whatsoever. I

510
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: personally think maybe not a starter. I think wouldn't hurt

511
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: to see him maybe in a long relief or even

512
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: the reliever. You can even see that villa go up

513
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: a little bit and maybe changing that arm slot, something

514
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: we've seen with a couple guys before. But I don't know.

515
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: We lowered him in our prospect rankings. Ourselfs a couple

516
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: of us are a little bit lower than we were

517
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: on him last time we ranked them. So just where

518
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: do you stand on Dishman. Wouldn't be shocked if he

519
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: repeats the level and maybe if he gets it going,

520
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: that's when they kind of bump them up to Belloyd.

521
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: But I mean a lot a lot of struggles in

522
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: that second half, didn't. I mean, the numbers look a

523
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: little skewed even after that, just because of his great

524
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: first half gets ruined by that second half.

525
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not really tracked at the minor league level,

526
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: but just going based off of what you see. What

527
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: I kind of saw from him is a lot of

528
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: reliability on the fastball, which his fastball is really good.

529
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: It's really fast. It's like ninety seven, ninety six, ninety seven,

530
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: which is very good.

531
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 4: But I think he really relied on that pitch a lot,

532
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: and I think when he got into strenuous situations he

533
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: kind of tried to overdo it to kind of try

534
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: to get back into counts.

535
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: So I think it's a little bit of immaturity, honestly

536
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: to this pitcher, which is understandable. I mean, you know,

537
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: at his age, especially he's nineteen, so it's understandable that

538
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: he's a little bit immature. So I think that's a

539
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: little bit of a little bit of immaturity that he

540
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: needs to kind of get over.

541
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: He relied on the fastball way too much. He needs

542
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: to be able to rely on the breaking pitch.

543
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: So whether that's confidence or whether that's just you know,

544
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: mentally maturing, whatever the reason it may be, I think

545
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: that's kind of his His crux right now is just

546
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of getting over being behind accounts, or being behind

547
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: in a game, or whatever it may be. It's just

548
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: kind of getting over it. You know, we haven't talked

549
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: about Noble Meyer. I'm sure we will, but I think

550
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: it's the same thing for him. It's just kind of

551
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: getting used to failure, right So, I think it's a

552
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: similar situation. I think it's a lot of mental This

553
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: guy has good stuff, really good stuff, especially the fastball,

554
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: but I think he kind of relied on it a

555
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: little bit too much and tried to overthrow at times,

556
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: is what I mean to say. So overthrowing is something

557
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: you need to get over. Is something young players go through.

558
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: I think this guy tried to overthrow a little bit

559
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 2: at times. I don't think we should be out on him.

560
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: I think he's still good, but he needs to mentally

561
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: mature a little bit in order to be better.

562
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: Whaling Cus spent a lot of time between the FCL

563
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: and and low A, but overall end of the year

564
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: between both levels of the three to five vrn't. I

565
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: don't think he's a starter carver. I think he's gonna

566
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: be more of a long reliever type guy, maybe a

567
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: swing man. I think that's a role that he would

568
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: really thrive in. I like the swinging miss stuff. Probably

569
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: starts at low A. He's gonna be twenty years old

570
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: when the year starts. Just we saw him at the FCL.

571
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: We were pretty not not blown away by any means,

572
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: but definitely impressed. He looked good and then gets up

573
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: to low A. He struggled a little bit there, but

574
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: I think just in due time, with more reps at

575
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: the level, he should be just fine. And I think

576
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: the mid fastball and that swinging miss stuff really really

577
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: will help him at least be that kind of swing

578
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: man type player.

579
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a guy with a little room for error.

580
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: So he saw him go up to the full season

581
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: levels and kind of struggle a bit, I would say,

582
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: And the reason for that is because he doesn't throw

583
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: very hard. Honestly, it's not a very hard thrower. It's

584
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: a guy that lives more like low nineties to mid

585
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: Like you said, mid is probably where he tops, but

586
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: his his breaking his breaking pitch of curveball is really good.

587
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: He also makeses in a decent change up. I think

588
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: he needs more projection on that pitch. I think he

589
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: needs to improve on that third pitch a little bit more.

590
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: But his breaking pitches is definitely his best pitch. That's

591
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: the pitch he throws most often. It's an outpitch. It's

592
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: very good. He can kind of get guys fooled in

593
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: the you know, out of the zone with that pitch

594
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: as well. Even I mean, at least at the FCL

595
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: didn't really see it. Kind of matriculate up to Jupiter

596
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: a little bit, but not that much. I just think

597
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: it's a guy that may be more suited for a

598
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: swing man role, like you said, or possibly bullpen. So

599
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: still still a bit to like, Still still not bad,

600
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, still just nineteen. There's still time, but I

601
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: just think that there's less. We talked about physical maturity

602
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: and physical projectability. I don't think this guy really has it,

603
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: So I don't really see a ton of room for

604
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: him to grow into a fastball dependent pitcher. I don't

605
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: think it's the guy that he really is. I think

606
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: this is more of a change of pace pitcher, so

607
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: that kind of puts them more in the bullpen to

608
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: swingman role. Like you said, So, I think it's fair

609
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: to say that I don't think this guy's a starter

610
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: long term, but he could still be okay in terms

611
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: of being major league usable in terms of those roles

612
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: of change of pace guy with lower velo stuff. You know,

613
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: you go from a Sandy or Yuri to this guy

614
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: and he's throwing you know, low seventies curveballs. That's a

615
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: change of pace for hitters to kind of try to

616
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: get used to. So for one to two innings to

617
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: maybe three innings, he could be okay. So I think

618
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: Whalen is an intriguing pitcher. I think he has a

619
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of question marks around him when

620
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: it comes to you know, he has to be perfect

621
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: to be very good. You know, he has to be

622
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: commanding pretty much perfectly to be good. Kind of like

623
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: a Luis Polasios, which we may talk about. It's the

624
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: same kind of guy. So I think this is more

625
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: of a swingman than a starter, but intriguing so far.

626
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: See how he continues to do at the full season levels.

627
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: Nice guy I want to talk about is Jake Brooks,

628
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: who did finish the year at High but he only

629
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: made one start, so I think it's just worth throwing

630
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 3: him into the low. A conversation finished with the to

631
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: eight er A three six three fifth, uh six six

632
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: seven k per nine low low low Walk per nine

633
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: and one hundred and fourteen and two thirds. And he's pitched.

634
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: Uh he's a twenty I think he needs to be

635
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: not He's twenty three pitching in the lowe. So definitely

636
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: he was. Guys may have been a little bit overmatched,

637
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: but overall, I mean it was good stuff. It was

638
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: good swing and miss the vlo. Obviously it's low nineties. Really,

639
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: I don't even think it'll top out too much at

640
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: mid nineties. But I mean I think at low Way

641
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: it was it was I think it was too long.

642
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: Maybe he spent there. Definitely should have been They should

643
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: have been a little bit more aggressive with him in

644
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: my in my opinion, but I think we'll get a

645
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: bit a better picture of what Chake Brooks is in

646
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five when he's with with Bolloyd and who knows.

647
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw someone like an Ike Buxton kind

648
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: of shove last year and I don't think I'm not

649
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: going to compare to him, but it was kind of

650
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: the same stuff, a little mid low nineties, sometimes mid

651
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: nineties and good swing miss stuff and Ike Buckston got

652
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: crushed you know this year. Just unfortunately to say.

653
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you called everything that I would say way too

654
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: long at LOWA.

655
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: I have no idea why that guy was at Loway

656
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: so long.

657
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: What I would say, though, is the one reason that

658
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: I can give them is that it's just not a

659
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: lot of eye popping stuff, right. It's good command and control,

660
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: but there's not a lot in the way of stuff

661
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: for this picture. So I do think he spent way

662
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: too long at the low A level. I think you

663
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: should have been pushed up probably mid season. They had rooms,

664
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: So I don't really understand why they didn't do it.

665
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Like I know, they called up, you know, other guys

666
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: like Nolan Thomas, Like I know, they called up the

667
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: top guys. I get it, But there was definitely room

668
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: for this guy at the back end of that rotation

669
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: and they just didn't do it. So I don't know

670
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: why he was held back. That's maybe a question we

671
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: could ask. I don't really understand why he was held back.

672
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: Only spent what five innings at the end of the

673
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: season at one yeah, yeah, literally one star e live,

674
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: two hits. I made one start, six strikeouts, no walks,

675
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: So I mean that take that start for a grain

676
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: of salt, obviously, but probably going to start back there

677
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: at you know, age twenty three. Hopefully, hopefully he continues

678
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: to succeed and they can push him up maybe to

679
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: double A later in the year. Maybe hopefully they decide

680
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: to challenge this guy at some point. We all know

681
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: about the double A level. They really struggle this year

682
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: in terms of prospect depth, in terms of top guys,

683
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: so I think there's definitely room there for him to go.

684
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: So maybe they skim him past the single advanced level

685
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: and just put him in double A to start the year.

686
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: I think that would kind of make up for some

687
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: time for this pitcher. I don't really think he has

688
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: anything left to prove at the low A levels other

689
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: than the fact that it's just okay stuff. This stuff,

690
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: it's decent stuff, it's not bad, but his best tools

691
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: command and control.

692
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Al Right, I want to go to a couple of

693
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: position players. I know he didn't play too much, but

694
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: I think it's just worth noting Dylanhead was with the

695
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: Marlins this year. He did play a couple of games

696
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: in the low Way. Unfortunately, due to a hip injury

697
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: and then surgery, he missed the remainder of the season.

698
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: Will be ready for spring training. But Carver, this is

699
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: a guy who we for a very long time thought

700
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: he was a good prospect. We knew he was good.

701
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: He was the main piece of Lewis rod Stray, but

702
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: we felt like there were other guys ahead of him.

703
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: I know or colleagues Zaza Kazuti and Ayes a gaz

704
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: at least because we know Eli agree agrees with us

705
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: that Victor Mason Junior for a very long time was

706
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 3: the top position player prospect. And I mean, I know

707
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: we ended up making that change in the top thirty,

708
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: but I still believe Victor Mason Jr. Is the top

709
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: guy over Dylan Head. Not top position player prospect. Definitely

710
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: he should be over Dylanhead. But Dylanhead has a speed,

711
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: he will stick in center field, and he has some

712
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: pretty underrated power and I bats the ball. Now, it's

713
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: just a matter of will he lower the strikeout rates,

714
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: Will he maybe works some more walks? But who knows

715
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: what this injury will ensue for him after we know

716
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: that there's could be there could be a chance that

717
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: he's not as fast maybe as he was once before.

718
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: But where are you staying with Dylan Head right now?

719
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: I think this is still a pretty good prospect for

720
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: the most part. Maybe he blows us away and he

721
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: ends up at least in our eyes for passing a

722
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: Victor Mason Jr. But we'll definitely be talking about VMJ

723
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: soon as well, so we'll get to that. That comparison

724
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: in a bit.

725
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: Got to stay in play. And I think these players

726
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: are so similar. Honestly, They're both lefty hitters, they're both centerfielders,

727
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: they both will stick in center field. I think that

728
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: these are guys that are at like heads at a

729
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: similar like place that Victor was at the last point

730
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: in his career. I just think they're they're very very

731
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: similar players. You would hope that, you know, Head comes

732
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: back healthy and this hip injury doesn't bother him to

733
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, for the long term, we just got to

734
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: see him play really outstanding speed, will stick in center field,

735
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: good center field defense, same as Victor Junior. These are

736
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: very similar players. They have very similar skill sets in

737
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: both Head and Dylan Head, or Dylan Head and Victor

738
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Mason Junr. I guess i'd say that are basic guys

739
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: or gap to gap guys, less than power guys. I

740
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: don't think either one of these guys that were going

741
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: to hit like twenty home runs probably ever, I don't

742
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: think unless they come by a lot more size. But

743
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: they are guys that are very athletic. They are guys

744
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: that will stick in centerfield. They're guys that will hit

745
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: for a good average. They should walk a decent amount.

746
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't really seen that from VMJ yet

747
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: or really Dylan Head yet, but I think that they're there.

748
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Their their progressions up the minor league ladder have kind

749
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: of been to had to do with that.

750
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: I think that they're not The.

751
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Ball skills will speak for themselves. They'll be able to

752
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: file off tough pitches, They'll be able to walk in

753
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: decent amount. I think that these players are both very

754
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: very good. We just got to see him play more. Honestly,

755
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: VMJ has been injured, Dylan Heads been injured. We got

756
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: to see him play more. They just got to stay healthy.

757
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: We'll definitely talk about VMG in a bit, but just

758
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: to wrap up Low A and it's going to Cardi Johnson.

759
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: He was the Marlins second round pick. Definitely struggled, but again,

760
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: eighteen years old in Low A, he was overmatched. There's

761
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: just no other way to put it. Surprise he started

762
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: the year, I mean, his his pro career. LOWA would

763
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: have thought they would just keep him at the FCL,

764
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: but he ended up with a thirty three percent strikeout,

765
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: didn't really walk too much, just overmatched to twenty one

766
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: banting average five sixty one ops sixteen RBIs a sixty

767
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: five WRC plus. I'm really not leaning one way or another.

768
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: You haven't kind of just still standstiod, you know, kind

769
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: of in the middle of here with with Carter. I

770
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: don't think he'll stick it short. I think he'll be

771
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: more of a second base. I know you weren't a

772
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: big fan, which saw early on, but again just in

773
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: my opinion, eighteen at the low way level and still

774
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: a long way to go for this guy, and I

775
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: think he'll be solid, but for now, definitely not not concerning,

776
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: but you know, definitely kind of what you expect to

777
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: see from him.

778
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a worry, I I guess. I guess

779
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: it's easy to look at the stats and say, like,

780
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: what happened?

781
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: Right?

782
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: What I would say though, is that the swing. I mean,

783
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: he was lauded for his back to ball skills coming

784
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: out of coming out of college. Right, he was really

785
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: lauded for Hey, this guy has has really good or

786
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: high school. Sorry, this guy has really good bath to

787
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: ball skills. That's his best strength is that he knows

788
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: what swing decisions to make. But again, like you said,

789
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: this is a guy that's going from playing at high

790
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: school to playing at a full season level because the

791
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: FCL schedule was so was what it was where they

792
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: pushed it back, and then after the draft there's only

793
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: like a couple of weeks left, so they have to

794
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: make decisions, right, they have to decide where to put guys.

795
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: You know, it was tough, and I really like the

796
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: rescheduling of the FCL kind of force the organization's hand

797
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: a little bit. So they figured this guy maybe ready

798
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: to face off against big league pitcher or pro pitching.

799
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Turns out that he struggled against it, but now he

800
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 2: knows what he needs to do in the future to succeed.

801
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: So it was more of experience versus anything else for

802
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: this guy. I wouldn't look at the forty strikeouts and say,

803
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, this guy's never going to be good.

804
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: I would look at that and say, Okay, this guy

805
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: now knows how to fail, right, And we talk about

806
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: that with high school players all the time. They have

807
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: to learn how to fail. This guy now knows how

808
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: to fail, and he knows what he needs to do

809
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: get better. So if his mental capacity is there, he

810
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: will use his experience with Jupiter to become better next season.

811
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: And I think that he will. I think I think

812
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: he is mentally good. So the mental game is just

813
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: as much a part of this as the physical game,

814
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: the on field game. The mental side of it is

815
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: even more so a thing high school players. I think

816
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: this guy has it mentally though. I think he has

817
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: it between the years. I think he's going to be good.

818
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: I am not that worried about what he did with Juger.

819
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: I want to talk. Let's let's move to the high level.

820
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: And I think the first guy we need to talk

821
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: about is one that you just wrote an article about.

822
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: And I think by the time this is out, it'll

823
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: be on fish on First dot com. Roy Mgnaffo. He

824
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: was the Low A Player of the Year he dominated.

825
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: There's no other way to say it, and I think

826
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: it needs to be noted. He went from an infield

827
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: to catching position, something a transition that honestly is not

828
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: very easy to make, and he kind of made it

829
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: seem pretty flawless. Obviously, still some work to do back there.

830
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: About he caught Nobel Meyer Thomas White. I mean, he

831
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: looked really good, hit over three hundred at loway at

832
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: high A, and honestly, I could definitely see him starting

833
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: at double A really soon. Carver, what what were your

834
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: initial takeaways on IGNOFO. I know this is a guy

835
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: you are extremely high on.

836
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's so many doubts about this guy. It's

837
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: just like where does he play? I mean, coming out

838
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: of he's a two way player, Like where do you

839
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: put him? The Marlins drafted him as a two way player,

840
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: so they didn't even really know what they wanted to

841
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: do with this guy. They had no idea, they didn't

842
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: know where to put him. They drafted him when if

843
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 2: you look at his draft log it says TWP, which

844
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: is two way player.

845
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: They didn't even know what they wanted to do. So

846
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: Rachel Balkovich gets a.

847
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 2: Hand a hold of him, and makes him a catcher,

848
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: one of the few positions that he's never played before ever.

849
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: But they saw it in him, and she saw the

850
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: mental capacity. Off points to that again. She pointed to

851
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: that herself. It's in the article that he had the

852
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: mental capacity to do it at a position of need

853
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: for the Marlins. The Marlins need catchers, they don't have

854
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: a lot. We know that they saw the capacity in

855
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: this guy to put him at catcher, to be able,

856
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, to put him there and him.

857
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 4: Not to struggle with the bat.

858
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: And he didn't struggle with the bat, not against low

859
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: way stuff at least, and not even against boy like.

860
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: He really didn't.

861
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: He was very good with the bat. He learned how

862
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: to play catcher pretty much on the fly. He started

863
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: in spring training outside of a couple of bullpens, and

864
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: I think he said a high school that was the

865
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: only time that he had ever caught before. I saw

866
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: him wearing cats your first day of spring training. I

867
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: was like, what are you doing. He's like, oh, they

868
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: want me to catch. I was like, we'll see how

869
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: this goes. He opened a lot of eyes doing that.

870
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: It's a prospect that nobody was talking about. It's a

871
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: prospect that people are now talking about for a good reason.

872
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: His bat was very good. Of course, Yes, he did

873
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: it at low levels, so we do need to see

874
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: it at higher levels. It still happened at Beloit, but

875
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: all of this happened as he was learning how to

876
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: play a very strenuous position, learning how to show up

877
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: earlier two games, learning how to basically become a coach

878
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: for your pictures. And he did all of that. Like

879
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: you said, he caught high velo stuff. He caught Thomas White,

880
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 2: he caught Noble Meyer, he caught high velow guys. Dish

881
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: Man can pointing to the guys that he caught it

882
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: with Jupiter, right. This guy caught high ve low. He

883
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: did well with breaking stuff. He called his pictures well,

884
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: he knew what to say on the mound to pictures

885
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: that were going through it. It's a guy that's very mature.

886
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: He's awesome. I can't say enough about a Nava. I

887
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: know it's a player that not a lot of people

888
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: are talking about. People should be talking about a Knafou,

889
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: and I hope to see him at the double A

890
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: level very soon.

891
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: He's been sticking at the bottom, towards the bottom of

892
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: our list unfortunately can move him too much higher just

893
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: given the names that are on top of him. But

894
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: that's a good that's a good case to have, and

895
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: that's honestly something that you know when you look at

896
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: the whole system, it's something good how improved it is.

897
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: But next thing we need to talk about is our

898
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 3: top prospect in the Marlins system, Alex, which is Thomas White,

899
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: who had a two six era with high a three

900
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: to one era with Jupiter, but overall this guy was dominant,

901
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: didn't go over five innings. I think that will kind

902
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: of change going into next year. I think he'll start

903
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: up double A in my opinion, I think he's done

904
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: more than enough to prove himself at the low levels.

905
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: Time to see what he could do up there. Unfortunately,

906
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll go up with his buddy Noble,

907
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: but a lot a lot of good stuff. Man did

908
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: the fastball in the mid to high nineties to change

909
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: up that everything. I mean, this guy is the real deal.

910
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: He stands at I believe six foot he is six

911
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: foot five, two hundred and ten pounds. Very projectable, dude.

912
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean, this is going to be a really, really,

913
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: really good prospect in it I think you've shown it

914
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: early on, and I think.

915
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: Before long, I think you'll see this guy. You know,

916
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm honestly thinking that he could contribute to the

917
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Marlins in twenty twenty six. Honestly, Like that's how far

918
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 2: advanced that this player is. We talk about mental maturity.

919
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: I keep pointing to that, but we're talking about mental maturity.

920
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: This guy has the best mental maturity of anybody in

921
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: the system at such a young age. Building size and strengths.

922
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: We talked to him at the awards ceremony, putting on

923
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: more weight, right, and more weight means more to get

924
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: behind right, even more velocity than he's already throwing with.

925
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: Right now, he's sitting like mid nineties, can kind of

926
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: pump it up a little bit higher. This guy could

927
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: potentially before long, sit even higher than that.

928
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 3: So you talk about that on top of that.

929
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: Hammer, slurvey, slider, slash, curveball thing that he has. And

930
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: then he's talking about adding another pitch. He wants to

931
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: add a cutter, so he even wants to get even

932
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: better and expand the arsenal even more outside of those

933
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: those three great pitches that already has. Can't say enough

934
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: about Thomas White mentally mature, dealt with failure very well,

935
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: knew how to get past it, got mixed, got pushed

936
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: up the levels, and did well with it at Beloit.

937
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: So good. Can't say enough about Thomas White.

938
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 4: We'renna see him a double A in twenty twenty five.

939
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agreed there, Nobel Meyer. He was the

940
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: number one pick in that draft. Actually, he ended the

941
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: season at Hya with his buddy Thomas and low A.

942
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: He looked pretty good, still some issues, a six walk

943
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: for nine, but a two six ERA, maybe a little

944
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: bit lucky, a four FIP, and then we kind of

945
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: saw that all bleed into into Hya, where where he

946
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: ended the season with a five to one ERA, six

947
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: to one FIP, a seven to two, zero walks for nine,

948
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: the strikeouts kind of lowered itself. You kind of talked

949
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 3: about maturity, and I'll let you dive into that a

950
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: little bit more. I think that's the case of someone

951
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: who needs more maturity, someone who maybe just hasn't learned

952
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: how to deal with failure yet. And this is a

953
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: guy who really hadn't bumped, hadn't had no bumps in

954
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: the road up until maybe the start of his pro career,

955
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: and we saw that a little bit during spring training,

956
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: maybe just the way he spoke after some press conferences

957
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: that we did some scrums. I'm sorry, So yeah, I mean,

958
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: this is a guy who still has a long way

959
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: to go. Just nineteen years old. He's literally a day

960
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: old younger than me, a day older than me. I'm sorry, So,

961
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean this is he has a long way to go.

962
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: But he still showed a lot of stuff. Man, the

963
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: mids of high nineties is there. I like the secondary stuff,

964
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: the slot is still good, the elevated fastball. I love

965
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: what he's shown there. So I mean it's not all

966
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: negative for Noble. There's definitely some positives and I think

967
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: this is still gonna be a really good pitcher in

968
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: the Marlin system.

969
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you called it pretty much. I mean he learned

970
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: how to command from very early on. This year, he

971
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: learned how to command more of the zone. I just

972
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: think of the season we're on, Like you said, the

973
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: mental maturity, and we keep pointing to that, but it's important.

974
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: The mental maturity kind of lagged behind for him, you know,

975
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: especially if you if you compare him to other players.

976
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: Maybe that's you know, if you a lot of players.

977
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: A lot of people compare him to Thomas White.

978
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 4: If you compare those two, Noble.

979
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: Lags behind in terms of mental maturity. He gets visibly

980
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: frustrated on the mound when he's behind in counts. It's

981
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: it's a little bit in terms of trying to do

982
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: a little bit too much. We talked about that with

983
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: some of the lower level guys just a little bit ago.

984
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think this guy needs to just stay

985
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: within himself a little bit better. He needs the mental

986
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: maturity on his side a little bit more.

987
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: We know he has the stuff.

988
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: We know he has a command.

989
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: He showed it when the pressure was off.

990
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: Now he needs to show it when the games matter, right,

991
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: He needs to show it In terms of when the

992
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: bases are loaded and there's one out, you need to

993
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: be able to stay within yourself right With runners on

994
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: base he really struggled. You can kind of look at

995
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: that the stats of the event stats and see that

996
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: with runners on he kind of struggled. He let that

997
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: kind of get to him a little bit. So it

998
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: needs to be a little bit better in terms of

999
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: those those variables, dealing with the.

1000
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: Pitchclock that goes into it as well. You have to

1001
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 4: get ready.

1002
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: You have to get on the mound a little bit

1003
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: earlier than you did in high school. Right, That's part

1004
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: of it. So you know that that's it all goes

1005
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: into it, right. You know you can't still the game

1006
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: that as much as you used to in high school

1007
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: because now there's a pitchclock. It's all goes into it, right.

1008
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: So he's learning. He's definitely going to be good. I

1009
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: think he will be good. I don't think there's any

1010
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 2: reason for anybody to be pan thinking about noble Meyer.

1011
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: This is the guy that needs to be coached. So

1012
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: the Marlins now have a lot of player development pieces

1013
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: in place that.

1014
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: Will be able to help him.

1015
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: I think he will be a true testament to what

1016
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: the Marlins are trying to do with player development. Will

1017
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: be what happened with noble Meyer.

1018
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: Next guy I want to talk about is Evan Olsen.

1019
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: He got off to an awesome start in low A.

1020
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: Obviously a little older for that level, but still really

1021
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: gets off literally a zero era a one nine to

1022
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: three FIP, then goes to high A kind of does

1023
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: a little bit of the same, gives up a little

1024
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 3: bit more damage Carver, but still I mean a three

1025
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: seventy ra A three eight FIP, three to two walks

1026
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: for nine. Not a big strikeout, dominant pitcher, more inducing

1027
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: ground balls, low walk rates, And that's kind of what

1028
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: he showed. And I think he's a solid guy. I

1029
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: think he's a back end of the rotation piece at

1030
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: some point. Wouldn't be shocked if he starts a double

1031
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: light to begin the season. He's really good and he's

1032
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: definitely showed some some some nice signs overall.

1033
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, a good sizeable lefty. You'd love to see that,

1034
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: a left that can kind of change eye levels. He's

1035
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: got a good breaking pitch. I like him, and, like

1036
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: you said, a good ground ball guy. Not too much

1037
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: in terms of dominant stuff in terms of some other

1038
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: guys that we've talked about. Twenty two years old, so

1039
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: he's right there at the age age average level for

1040
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: high A. So it's fine. I think you may see

1041
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: him at double A at some point next season, maybe

1042
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: in the second half, if he continues to limit damage.

1043
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: It's a guy that needs to kind of be more

1044
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: on the side of, you know, like you said, commanding

1045
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: the lower half, getting those ground balls. It's kind of

1046
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: a guy like that rather than the swing and miss guy,

1047
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: but he gets some swing and miss too. It's not

1048
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: that he doesn't get strikeouts, it's just that he, especially

1049
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: when he probably comes to the higher levels, it's going

1050
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: to be a guy that's a two contact pitcher more

1051
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: than anything else from what we've seen so far. So

1052
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: that's what I would say for Emmett. A sizeable lefty

1053
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: who changes eye levels really well, pitches from a higher

1054
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: arm slot, kind of just gets guys off balance. It's decent,

1055
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: but I agree with you the ceiling should be meant

1056
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: to back on rotation. I don't see reason why not.

1057
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: He dealt with the full season of innings pretty damn well.

1058
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: I don't think he fell off really at all from

1059
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I think he dealt with twenty one

1060
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: starts at a pretty damn good pace. So I don't

1061
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: see a reason why this guy, if he stays healthy,

1062
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: which he did this year, can't be a mint to

1063
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: back end guy that Kennedy Simnnings. I think he's pretty decent.

1064
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: I want to touch on wilfred A Laura, who was

1065
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: acquired in the Hawascar Braza bon trade, and he was

1066
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: pretty dang good when he got here. A two seventy

1067
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: batting average. Still did not get on base too much

1068
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: a three or five OBP. But I mean he has

1069
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: a one fourteen WRC plus a seven to sixty one OPS,

1070
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: three home runs, fifteen RBIs twenty percent strikeout. It still

1071
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: needs to work a little bit on just getting some walks,

1072
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: putting the ball play a little more. But overall, Carver,

1073
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: I mean, guy who we had kind of low expectations

1074
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: for one day acquired him. It was just kind of

1075
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 3: a you know, you got a prospect back for Jascar

1076
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: Brosabon who got to the Marlins very late into the

1077
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: season and didn't get too many innings in there. But

1078
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: you know, overall solid prospect. Yeah, I don't see him

1079
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: sticking a short I think he'll be more of a

1080
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: third big maybe a left fielder. But overall, I mean,

1081
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: you know, solid solid prospect. Not you know, he'll never

1082
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: sniff the top thirty, but he'll be in the top

1083
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: maybe fifty prospects in the organization and probably maybe starts

1084
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: a double a next year after. You know, the year

1085
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: he had overall, I Belivio it was seven home runs

1086
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: and last year had fourteen. He was pretty actually really

1087
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: good with the Mets last year and in Loway, so

1088
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 3: you know Jiah and Hye who's solid.

1089
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's bench bat ceiling, especially with the

1090
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: positional questionability which you called out, and it's no power

1091
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: pretty much, so I think it's probably a a more

1092
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: of a a ceiling utility guy, well not ceiling, but

1093
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: more of a realistic utility player kind of guy.

1094
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: That can maybe get some hits off the bench with

1095
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: a decent hit tool.

1096
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: So that's what i'd say for Learra. Gotta se him

1097
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: a little bit more. We'll see what happens next season.

1098
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: But with no power and really question marks on I

1099
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna stay at a short either. I

1100
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: think he's more of like third base, second base. But yeah, no,

1101
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: I think it's more of a guy that they can

1102
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: build up as a utility or shoot utility guy that

1103
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: can kind of play multiple positions and get some hits

1104
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: off the bench. So that's what I would say for him.

1105
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: Needs to prove a little bit more in terms of

1106
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: the bats of ball skills, like you said, with very

1107
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: little average, but you know, we'll see what happens with that.

1108
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: The walk rates were decent as he came up, so

1109
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: not too terrible and not too terribly worried about him

1110
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: getting on base, So I think it's good on base ability,

1111
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: but little in the way of average power and positional

1112
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: flex in terms of being able to stick at short,

1113
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: but can probably play other infield spots, so maybe more

1114
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: of a utility bat in my opinion.

1115
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: Rock Vredenberg he was the I believe the Marlins third

1116
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 3: round pick, I want to say, or a fourth in

1117
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: that same draft with Noble Meyer. I mean, it's really

1118
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: just strikeouts and really the lack of power that he's

1119
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: shown for a guy who is six six hundred and

1120
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: thirty pounds, only hit ten home runs and over five

1121
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: hundred at bats, so definitely a lot of struggles there. Carver,

1122
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: I'm kind of almost out on him. He's not in

1123
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: the top thirty anymore. Well, I think he only made

1124
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: it once at the beginning and that was about it.

1125
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's a lot of struggles. He is

1126
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 3: walking over ten percent, so I guess that's that, but

1127
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: just under the league average in WRC plus and both

1128
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: of his stops. Got off to a really nice start

1129
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: with Beloit, but after that just nothing real crazy. I

1130
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: think this guy is probably gonna repeat the level, maybe

1131
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: goes to double a really soon.

1132
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I liked what we saw when he first got

1133
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: called up to Beloit. You know, like you said, he

1134
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: walked a little bit more. It looked to be getting

1135
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: a little bit better in terms of his contact rates.

1136
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: But man, that's what you really look at with this

1137
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: guys contact rate, and his contact rate is just not

1138
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 2: good enough. When he makes contact, it can be very good,

1139
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: but he did not make nearly enough contact to excuse

1140
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: his other numbers. So the walk rate coming up is

1141
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: the one intriguing thing. It's first base fore DH only.

1142
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: That's all he's ever gonna do. He's not gonna play

1143
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: anywhere else. So it's very very little positional flex and

1144
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: you're relying on one tool, which is power, which he

1145
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: has not shown yet so hopefully for a guy of

1146
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: this size. It just looks awkward at the plate, dude,

1147
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't look smooth, it doesn't look good. He doesn't

1148
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: really control the lever as well at the plate. In

1149
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: my opinion, he's going to really need to get under

1150
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: these new player development coaches, especially during spring training in

1151
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: places like that and even at the full season levels.

1152
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 4: And really learn how to control his body.

1153
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: That's body control, I think, is it for this guy?

1154
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: It's not there. He needs to really learn body control.