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Speaker 2: We've mentioned that You Young was an obsessed true crime fan,

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Speaker 1: in one of the scenes and William Hurt, who played

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Speaker 1: these two guys, his story is actually based on a

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Speaker 1: true event. River Phoenix says, says to Count of Reeves

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Speaker 1: and William Hurt, it's generally not a good idea to

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Speaker 1: take a taxi to the scene of a murder. And

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Speaker 1: you know, no truer words were ever spoken, because, as

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Speaker 1: it turns out, the taxi cab driver in this particular

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Speaker 1: case was what actually pointed the authorities back to the

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Speaker 1: perpetrator because she had, in fact, can you imagine this?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine being an individual that's living out this

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Speaker 1: fantasy of quote unquote committing the perfect homicide, the perfect crime,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to be so bold or maybe so

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Speaker 1: thoughtless or dare I say stupid to take a suitcase

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Speaker 1: with human remains, place them in the seat besides you,

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Speaker 1: or maybe you had the taxi driver place them in

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Speaker 1: the trunk and say take me to this isolated location.

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Speaker 1: He's going to remember that. And this case is so

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Speaker 1: over the top that when reports of this come out

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Speaker 1: in the news in Korea, can you imagine the taxi

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Speaker 1: driver is thinking back to that moment in time. He's saying,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was actually transporting not just the perpetrator,

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Speaker 1: but also the victims remains.

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Speaker 2: This case has only been to the part where we've

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Speaker 2: been able to talk about the murder, not even of

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Speaker 2: the name. We don't have a name of the victim yet.

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Speaker 2: We know that Young You Young has been charged, but

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Speaker 2: it has not gone through the system. This is still

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Speaker 2: pretty early on. We'll keep you updated as soon as

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Speaker 2: we know what is going to happen. But based on

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Speaker 2: the discussions that have been named publicly in terms of

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Speaker 2: Young You Young and what she has said to the police,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have to resolve this, probably before court,

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Speaker 2: I would guess, but we'll keep you updated.

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