WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: What Now At QB? 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:18.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.319 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:27.840 Star in frischol Elliot flowing to the live saw Scot 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:34.680 Tay and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison, 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:40.239 Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's how's it going, everybody? It's 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.920 a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys here from the s 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.440 WBC Mortgage Studios leading in to the Week nine matchup 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.120 with the Pittsburgh Steelers as the Cowboys look to get 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.400 back on track against the only team that has not 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.360 gotten off track at any point in the NFL NFL 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.360 season so far. We're gonna break it down for you today, 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:05.400 Cowboys defense and how they're gonna slow down this Steeler's offense. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.320 The normal crew, as always are resident Super Bowl Champion 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.720 Isaiah stam Back, the sultry voice of hack Ma Harrison, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:18.080 DJ Rob Beats bringing it in with the smooth jazz 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.080 on the bottom right hand corner. I'm Kyle Yeoman says always, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.759 Chris Beam in the back and Gus what was that? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.119 I gotta get a better I gotta I gotta get 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.880 a better title. Man. Then the sultry voice. You don't 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.520 like that, get like it playing? I don't. I don't 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.600 want to hear you can play. I'm here. I'm hating 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.480 on it. Yeah, alright, you are hating on it, but 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.040 I think it fits you perfectly. It's that's that's the 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.400 only issue. I wish I could tell everybody your nickname. No, 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.720 you should not say that. Let's not going to that one. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:02:00.120 It's the internet. I think we can't. Let's sail. I 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.400 don't want to look up one day on my pregame 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.440 and see this nickname continuously pop up in the chat. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.480 So we're gonna we're gonna stay away from it from 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:17.079 now because that would be maybe the burner account. Maybe 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:21.639 we'll make the burner account that one. But nicknames and all, 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.480 we're gonna break down this this matchup with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.560 We had a guy with some nicknames last week in 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.560 the Nuche and Gucci de Nucci and Nucci Man starting 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.600 a quarterback against Philadelphia. We were thought to have Andy 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:42.280 Dalton back this week. By the time yesterday's showed exactly 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:47.400 not so fast. He was as of yesterday afternoon, placed 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.520 on the COVID nineteen protocol list. And now it looks 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.240 like there are other options at quarterback and none of 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.320 them involved Ben DiNucci at least at the moment. Starter wise, Rob, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.480 what are you hearing in turn of the quarterback battle 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.280 that is now ensuing in these walls at the Star. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.280 Just the reports out there that all options seem to 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.640 be on the table with the healthy quarterbacks that they have. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.760 First off, best wishes Tod Andy Dalton. That news did 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.360 come out yesterday, as Kyle said, And you know, the 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:23.800 Cowboys don't specify why he's on that list. You know, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.640 players go on that list either because they tested positive 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.160 for COVID or they came in close contact with somebody 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.680 who did so that you know whether or not it's 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.639 one of those two, or if you're symptomatic or a 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.080 symptomatic it can it can vary on how long you're 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.000 on that list regardless. Hope he's back soon, but yeah, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:45.080 I mean, I mean, if you're the Cowboys, what else 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.360 can happen this season? Honestly, it's unbelievable. And you know 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.840 there's reports out there that there they may be leaning 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.320 towards Cooper Rush off the practice squad. I asked our 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.160 friend Bobby Belt of NFL Network, if that were to happen, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.720 has that ever happened in the history of the NFL, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.520 where your starting quarterback for that Sunday began the week 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.840 on the practice squad. I wonder if that has ever happened. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.080 He could not find that, So that might be another 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:14.360 first in Cowboys history if it happens on Sunday. Fellas, Hmmm, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.799 what if I told you I'm had to do that? 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:26.000 That's why you sooice, because hey, man, I don't think 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.960 any of us anticipated Cooper Rush starting against the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.840 Are man, this is this is we've we've reached def 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.640 khon Ford. We're there, uh now. And once I got 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.440 once we got the notification, and I be one of 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.560 you guys. It was Isaiah that sent the Texas. Oh 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.839 my god, man, how do we get here? And this is, man, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.080 this is a whole new level of twenty twenty. I 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.400 know that's cliche, but I mean, if Bobby Belt can't 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.560 find out if a guy's ever gone from the practice 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.880 squad to starting QB and this is the first time, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.279 and it happens to us, that. I don't even know 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:07.599 what kind of open this is. Isaiah. You got nothing, Kyle, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.400 I got nothing, man. It's just, uh, you know, let's 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.039 talk about this offense versus defense. How about that? Yeah, 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.880 you want to move you want to move on? Yeah? No, 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.680 I don't know about that one yet. We're gonna do 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.800 that one tomorrow. We need an extra day to prepare 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.560 for that. But whenever it comes to Cooper Rush and 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:29.719 Garrett Gilbert, which seemingly that's where the quarterback competition it lies. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.760 And that's kind of what I had been hearing throughout 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.560 the building as well. Was it was those two, not 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.320 Ben de Nucci. But I was asked this question on 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:38.719 the fan a moment ago, and I think it's a 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.240 great question, Isaiah. I want to direct this towards you 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.240 to start. But whenever it comes to Garrett Gilbert and 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.640 Cooper Rush, what did they give you that Ben de 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:56.440 Nucci doesn't give you. I don't know. I don't I 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.640 don't know, and I don't answer it matters. Yeah, I 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.760 don't think it really matters. I think that, you know, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.880 I don't care. If Dak was playing this game, it 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.240 was gonna be It's gonna be a tough game. Um man, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.440 that's just being transparent. Um. Obviously there's no dak um. 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.880 So we were like, okay, Andy Dalton, Well, Andy Dalton 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.880 can't play. Even if any Dalton's playing, it was gonna 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.159 be a very tough game. Um. And now we're like 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.719 Ben to Nucci, all right, here we go, Ben, um 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.960 And now we don't know if it's been so now 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:29.400 we're like Gilbert uh, um, anybody, but you got it? 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.880 You want to play No No, No No, No seven or 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.920 seven leagues who played you know, Rob to the Pea. Um. So, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.159 I mean, I don't think it really matters this this defense, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.800 this defense is a problem. They are a problem. I'm 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.840 not sure if anybody tuned into the film room yesterday. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.599 We try to highlight it a little bit. Um. These 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.640 guys play hard, man, and I don't I don't think 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.479 they don't care. And they are a great reflection of 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:57.400 their coach. They're smart, they're they're intentional, they're they're tenacious, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.320 they they they're relentless, and all the all the words 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.560 that you want to be representative of your team. That's 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.440 what this team is. And it's gonna be a problem. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:05.680 I don't care who you put in there. You can 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:06.920 put all three of them there at the same time. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:12.200 I don't think it's gonna matter. Isaiah, did you did 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.240 you unbox your cleats? You're the only one on this 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.320 podcast that has actually taken snaps in the NFL at 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:22.360 any point. Have you unboxed them? Look at here. I 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.200 don't think I would want these problems right now without 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.800 having a little another week of practice. These dudes, these 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.280 dudes are monsters on that side of the ball, and 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.440 you better be strapped up and hopefully they all have 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.840 hard chine straps on this week. He he, Well, we've 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.640 obviously gotten an opportunity. Go ahead, up, I'm sorry, I 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:43.480 would go for you. You were going first. Now we've 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.520 had an opportunity to see what Cooper Rush has and 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.120 and some preseason games and um, you know when I 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:52.920 when I got the news that these guys who are 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.800 if they were going away from being to nut and 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.440 I thought that was just obviously what we're gonna do. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.720 We're gonna give Donuti another opportunity. But obviously when they 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.520 look that the tape he had, you just know that 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.640 he had a rough outing versus Philadelphia, and to serve 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.680 him up to this stealer's defense. This is a mercy 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:14.160 This is a mercy call for the Nucci not to 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.640 to to send him literally to the Wolves in this situation. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:22.559 They're saving his career. They're saving his career. Yes, And 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.160 and I don't know if if Andy saw what happened 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:32.000 last week and saw Pittsburg coming up, and it's it's 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.480 a tough goal, it's a cup go however you look 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.680 at it, and for both of these quarterbacks. Now, Gilbert 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.559 may be a guy that we know a lot more 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.720 about because he played here at SMU, A big guy, 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:47.000 big arm. He can you know, I would hope that 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.599 those quick throws is what he's it's specifically going to 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.480 have to make to be successful against the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.640 But we have no idea how this is gonna come out. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.839 And Cowboy fans, right now, you've got to be just 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.439 in a situation you just like feeling like a lamb 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.640 getting ready to be led to slaughter in a game 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.880 like this where you know you're going into it with 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:10.720 your fifth and sixth stream quarterback at this point. So look, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.600 let's talk about it. Let's just go through the rest 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.480 of the show. Guys, come out, We gotta we hearn 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.000 up twenty five dollars today. We're gonna earn out twenty 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:22.719 five dollars for that. Yeah, you're getting twenty five, you're 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:29.800 getting twenty five. I mean, wows. Oh, my bad, my bad. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.800 We can put that out there. Guy, is this a move? 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.120 Go ahead and say what you're gonna say. But is 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.080 this move also an indicative of the turnovers that we 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.920 saw on Sunday as well? No, I just think he 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.720 wasn't ready. I don't think he's ready to play an 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.480 NFL game. And that's not no knock on him. Yeah, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.480 it's not a It's not a knock on him at all. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.479 I mean this is where the no training camp preseason 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.000 stuff is an excuse. Yeah, it's a good one, because 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.840 he hasn't even gotten in a preseason game to at 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.760 least just kind of get the taste of the NFL speed. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.600 He didn't have any of that, and he went up 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.640 against a really good front. Like you guys said, he's 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.439 going up against a better front. He would be going 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.560 up against a better front this week, and Jerry Jones 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.520 said it on the fan yesterday. Frankly, it was more 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.240 than he could handle. I think the coaches probably recognize 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.080 that it probably is accurate. I'd be surprised if it 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:29.480 didn't come down to Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert. Those 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.240 two guys each have three career pass attempts, though in 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.720 the regular season, so it's not like they have a 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.120 ton of experience in games. They've been around teams, you know, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.360 I think Gilbert's been in and out of team camps 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.320 and roster since twenty fourteen. I guess I would go 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.199 with Cooper Rush just because I've actually really seen him play, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.720 and you know, he's been in some form of Kellen 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.800 Moore's offense the last few years. I guess now in 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.199 terms of this offense, with this terminology Isaiah does that 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.680 would would Gilbert get the edge because he's been here 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.480 a couple more weeks or do you think a Rush 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.360 could come in from your experience, like come in this 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.360 week and have enough familiarity with the past to be 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.880 able to do it. I would think so, But I 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:18.000 don't know. I mean because he just got here technically, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.439 I mean personally, I would stay with Denucci. That's just me. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.520 There's no right answer here, So Twitter world, y'all chill out. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.880 There's no good answer. Here. Okay, um, but Denucci has 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:34.120 been around the longest. I mean, that's the facts. None 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.240 of these quarterbacks would be in a good position, none 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.600 of them, none of them. Andy Dalton would be in 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.120 a bad position. Dak would be in a bad position. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:47.840 This team is freaking good. This defense is they're freaking 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.880 they're bullies there. This defense is they're a bunch of bullies. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.959 And they bullied Lamar Jackson, they bullied everybody else they face. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.240 So what makes you think they're not gonna come in 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.160 here and bully whoever we put that quarterback. Yeah, it's 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.840 gonna be tough. Whenever you look at the last three 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.120 or actually, I'll say it this way, how about that. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.120 There are three teams in the NFL that have a 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.600 sack per pass attempts percentage of more than ten percents, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.240 which means they have a sack on more than ten 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.200 percent of the past attempts against them. One of those 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.720 teams was Washington. We saw what that happened a couple 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.400 of weeks ago. The other team was Philadelphia. We saw 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:28.040 them on Sunday night. That's two and three respectively. Now 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.680 you see the number one team, and that's Pittsburgh. They 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.360 have a sack on thirteen percent of their snaps and 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.439 of their past attempts against. And that's by far the 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.040 tops in the league. This is gonna be the best 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.359 front you've seen so far. You might want an experienced 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.880 quarterback back there, but even at the same time, it's 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.240 gonna be rough no matter who's out there behind center. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.840 This is the best defense, not even just the best front, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.920 is the best defense in general, just all over the place. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.319 I mean, you got all these guys that we talked 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.600 about TJ, and we talked about what das all other Cats, 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.439 but Dubs, I mean, but they got Joe Hayden. I 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.319 don't know if you guys remember Joe Hayden, but Joe 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.800 joeysan just a pro bowler guy, you know, just a 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.559 guy I guess you know, high paid, but they don't. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.800 His name hasn't even come up. That's how much talent 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.320 is on his defense. Joe Hayden used to be one 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.240 of the best corners, one of the most talked about 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.880 corners in this league. And he's still a pretty dog 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.840 and well respected corner in this league. But you don't 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.120 even bring his name up. But that's because that's that's 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.360 what mean guys they have on his team, It's it's 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.560 kind of sickening, honestly, how much talent, not even not 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.960 only talent they have, but how these guys play up 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.280 to their talent, right, And I think that's I think 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.839 you're you're right on with with that, man. But also 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.199 guys like blood Dupree, uh he And I know T. J. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.640 Watt is the name that most people recognize from that defense, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.120 but blud Dupree is motor and he's gonna keep He's 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.000 gonna continue to come. But even with all of that 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.000 being said, last week, when you know, when you guys 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.800 watched the Baltimore game, Baltimore gave them everything that they 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.240 wanted in that game, to a tune of about four 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.120 hundred and forty five yards total offense. I have no 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.520 idea how Baltimore lost that game, and obviously it was 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.320 a it's a turn I know how they lost it. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.880 They lost it on the turnovers and giving up a 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.120 special teams touchdown as well. But that was an AFC 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:20.560 North battle that Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh just found a way to 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.160 win a tough game and that's what they do. And Isaiah, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.360 you said it, man, they are a reflection of their coach, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.360 coach tomlin is. Man, he's a great guy and they 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.560 all respect him and they play for him, and they're 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.040 just at a point right now. And I know we're 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.240 gonna talk about their office, but Big Ben Roethlisberger is 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.120 playing lights out and he has a new toy that 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.880 I'm we're gonna get into his toy. But man, they 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.640 are lighting up the league with some of their formations 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.360 that they have, and it's really hard to compete with. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.280 So they are the one seven and old team that 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.680 doesn't look like this slowing down anytime soon, not at all, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.840 and they look like they're actually getting better. Last week 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.080 against the Ravens, I thought that was maybe one of 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.240 their better wins, even though it was a little ugly 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.120 at times. As AFC North football is going to be 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.920 from time to time, I think you're gonna see some 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.680 ugly games, but I thought that was one of their 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.960 more impressive wins. And the Steelers coming up, They've got 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:14.680 the Cowboys, They've got the Jaguars, and then I forgot 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.000 who the third team was, but it's nobody very good, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.520 at least at the moment. So they've got some teams 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.400 coming up that they could be very easily be ten 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.520 and oh the Cowboys the one team in there that 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.440 wants to try and or I mean all three teams. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.920 The other one was Cincinnati by the way, that was 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.600 in the mix there, but they could be very easily 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.280 ten and oh if they take care of business against 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.800 Dallas this week. 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Glad you're with us, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.840 Time to preview some of the matchups for this Cowboys 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.320 defense against this Pittsburgh Steelers offense. And you look at 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.800 the Steelers overall guys and a lot of familiar faces 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.520 for at least the quarterback position, but not so much 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.000 anybody else on this cot or on this Steelers team 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.679 from four years ago. First time these two teams have 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:27.159 met since twenty sixteen, the two winning as franchises in 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.800 the Super Bowl era. Whenever you talk about Ben Roethlisberger, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.800 he continues to be the consistency guru, or at least 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.840 the consistency mark of any veteran quarterback in the league. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.960 What have you seen from Ben Big Ben over the 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.639 last couple of weeks and now into what is his 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.000 age thirty eight season, Isaiah, and what he brings to 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.359 the table for the Steelers. I mean you mentioned it. 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.240 I mean I think Ben, coming off of last year, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.280 I'm not being able to really play. I knew he 0:18:58.280 --> 0:18:59.800 was gonna come back and have a solid season. He's 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.640 a competitor man, and nobody's ever questioned that about him. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.520 Um he's the he's the heartbeat of this team. Um uh. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.240 And and he's really just a corner of that cornerstone 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.000 man and these guys he has a ton of weapons 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.800 around him. For whatever reason, this organization knows how to 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.840 develop talent, and they know how to develop receivers. That's 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.760 why they were able to let go of the guys 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.040 that they've let go in the past and not miss 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.760 a beat at all. Um. You know, it's it's amazing 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.840 how they're able to build up these young receivers, um 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.720 and and have a plethora of guys all shapes and 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.760 sizes and speeds and and and skill sets and and 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.879 they're all to the benefit of Pittsburgh. I mean, you 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.080 take a you know, you take a guy like Claypool, Like, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:39.800 where the heck did he come from? Man, here he 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.159 comes at, you know, at the size of a tight end. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.040 He's blown by guys, right. You got Washington, who's shifty 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.919 is all get out. You got Eric Ebron who's failed 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.520 at his last couple of locations, and all of a 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.160 sudden he shows up in Pittsburgh and he's balling out 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.439 and throwing people at the club. So I mean this, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.119 this offense, you know, I'm not gonna talking about the 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.360 running game of the offense is nice, man, And Big 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.880 Ben has done great job and it's a testament as 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.399 to his leadership because you know, even regardless of what 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.920 guys have said about him in the past, obviously he's 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.240 doing something right because he keeps continue to build up 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:17.919 and elevate the play of other guys around him. Agma, Yeah, okay, 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.040 you know, Big Bend is Big Ben. He's and it 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.159 always have been a model of consistency. Like Isaiah was 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.160 talking about. But I tell you, man, when he got 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.919 the elbow surgery, I thought that that was gonna be 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.280 the end of his career. When they talked about how 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.639 you know, reattaching the tendons back to the elbow and 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.800 all of that. But he's come back this year and 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.280 he's looked better than ever. He's not the same. He 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.600 doesn't gamble the same that he used to, and I 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.720 think that's just has to do with the rehabbing process 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.800 and trusting his arm again and what that's made him do. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.000 It's just go with his more intermediary routes. And that's 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:57.840 where Eric Ebroun and Chase Claypool are just feasting on 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:02.879 defenses in you have to at their offensive coordinator's Dick Deischner. 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.600 I believe he's been with U. He's been with coach 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.920 Thomlin since oh seven, but he was a wide receivers coaching. 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.679 He is the one who they credit for, you know, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:15.200 getting these guys, these these these wide receivers and making 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.760 them h so much better. But man, it's all about 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.560 the formations for me. I mean, they use two and 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.320 three tight ends. They go with a jumbo said, and 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.760 Chase Claypool is not. He's not a wide receiver. He 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.440 is a quarter pounder away from being a tight end. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.280 The spooky thing about him is this guy has exceptionally 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.600 fast and I know, how do we stop it? We're 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.000 just going to have to get a lot of prayer 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.400 and holy water. But no, no, what we gotta do 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.120 is we've gotta get We got our cornerbacks, and hopefully 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.880 Cheeto comes back this week because we're definitely gonna need him. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.000 M Jay Leu has been playing in the slot a lot, 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:54.760 and I think put in Jay Lew in the slot, 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.119 that's gonna match him up Man the Man with guys 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.520 like Chase Claypool, which I don't think that's that would be. 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.760 I think that's a mismatching and everybody should agree. Uh then, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.040 but yeah, getting getting a woozier back, I think that's 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.680 that's better for us. But again, you still have the 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.960 mismatches on the outside with Juju and Rob. I'll just 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:14.560 leave you a little bit of meat on this bomb. 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:20.800 Take it away, oh man, Josephrano, Yeah, No. Asaiah brought 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.240 up the point I hadn't thought about that. You know, 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.919 you lose Antonio Brown and you think, you know, for 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.560 some teams, I mean, that's your offense, and they found 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.080 a way to just keep going. And they're an outstanding 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.680 offense this year with a lot of new faces. And 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.200 to Heck's point, like he's he's right up there with 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.640 Russell Wilson to me in terms of the top quarterbacks 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:42.480 you're gonna face this year because of his experience, his savvy, 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.280 his ability to get the offense into the right play, 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.600 and also just how clutchy is. You know, you're never 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.240 out of a game with Ben Roethlisberger and talking about 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.720 those formations. Heck, just watching these last couple of games 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.240 and playing you know, we talk about the Cowboys running game, 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.520 run defense, but I'm turned on how they're just may 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:05.760 just spread out the Cowboys defensively with all their receivers 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:07.919 like they did last week where they went five wide 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:09.639 a lot of the time. In the second half we 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.680 went four wide. They had those bunch formations were receivers 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:13.879 on the one side of the field just kind of 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.160 scatter and you got to be on point as dbs. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.560 So this is a big game for Cheeto to hopefully 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.360 come back to try to counteract some of that. But 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:23.760 what they were able to do in the second half 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.800 of Baltimore was just like, Okay, you know what, We're 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.480 just gonna spread out and we're just gonna run some plays. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.520 Guy's gonna run around and get open. And that really 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.639 worked because they've got a lot of receivers who can 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.960 get separation, and they've got a quarterback who can find you. 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.480 You heard it here first, Ben Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.520 are now in the MVP conversation according to Rob pe 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:49.600 in the quarterback the quarterback comparison now and Lamar too, 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.840 you'll see him a little later, a little bit later on. Yeah, 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.560 I don't want to even think about that matchup just yet. Now. 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.879 Whenever it comes to this offense for the Steelers specifically, 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.080 it's kind of interesting the way that their statistics to 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.640 have worked out. And I know, out of everybody here, 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.760 Isaiah is the one guy who really loves those statistics 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.399 and is only with the statistics and only looks at 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.359 those statistics. So I'm going to look at them. How 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.399 about this total yardage? Twenty fifth in the league in 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.840 total yardage. However, they're fifth in scoring. So they're the 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:23.520 fourteenth or excuse me, sixteenth rushing offense, twenty fourth passing offense, 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.560 but they're fifth in scoring. How does that work out? 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.880 That make it make sense? How does it work out 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.120 that way? That's called defense? Oh, it's called defense. It's 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:36.040 called special teams. Okay, defense and special teams absolutely, So 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.480 should we be scared of this offense still or no? 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.880 I mean I know the defense has yes, So all 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.480 that all that stat means is that these guys don't 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.280 have to go as far as to score. That's all. 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.560 That's all. That's that means. That's it. That's that's all 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.480 it means. So these guys are getting good field position. 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.639 It's a it's a it's a great uh you know, 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.720 and it's great analytics for for how effective this special 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.399 teams probably is because of the part game and a 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.719 part return game. But you know, it's put set these 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.000 guys up there for a good field position, um, and 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.000 then their offense is having to do less work to 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.520 score points. But it has nothing to do with the 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.560 effectiveness of this offense. These guys are deadly. You can't, 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.080 we can't. We can't sit up here in name one 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.520 position where we feel like the Cowboys have an advantage, 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.600 not one, not one. And the other interesting thing about 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:24.200 the stealers is they've scored sixty two points on turnovers, 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.240 So turn the ball over, they will score. And that's 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.600 that's a large part of that stat that you're talking about. 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.320 Kyle is, like Isaiah said, it's just they're getting a 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.400 short field and then position to score anytime they get 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.240 the ball. From the defense they've got, I think they're 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.000 tied for the second most takeaways in the league through 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.160 what seven games? They played seven games, and uh, you know, 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.159 to me, that's why they're a favorite to win this 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.120 whole thing, because they remind me of you know, when 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.359 New Orleans won it with Breeze. They had the best 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.440 offense in the league, but they also had forty takeaways defensively, 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.159 So you're you're taking a great offense and just making 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.120 an easy for him, you know. And so that's that's 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.400 a big prod for a team like the Cowboys, who 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.120 took a step forward last week, but their biggest problem 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.439 is taking care of the football. Yeah, this is a 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.760 bad matchup. This is a very bad matchup, all right, 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.560 So I gots we gotta give some positivity. We gotta 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.240 give some positivity here, Kyle. So I know you're gonna 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.440 come through with a question, so we can and check 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.120 some positive. Now that the only thing that I believe 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:28.560 that Cowboys have to in their advantage here is to 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:32.600 try and get pressure on being they have. You've got 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.199 to try and manufacture that pressure, whether it be with blessing, 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.480 your linebackers or your guys on the outside, that's the 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:42.320 only way. And you saw Baltimore, which Isaiah has always said, 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:46.800 Baltimore's defense is eerily similar to the Cowboys defense, but 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:52.199 not like that similar because they have they have the 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.120 personnel that matches with it. But I think Baltimore had 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.959 more success when they were coming after being instead of 0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.359 just sitting back and so, um, that's what we're gonna 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.160 have to take a page from what Baltimore did last 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.600 last last week and try and bring that pressure up 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.960 the middle in Ben's face so that he can't just 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:15.159 check down the air. Ebrun and Chase Claypool. Ah. This 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.360 is my concern though, because they did a great job 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.600 against them in the in the first half last week. 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.440 But their offensive line is so good that I mean, yeah, 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.640 I mentioned it earlier. They went empty like the whole 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.719 second half, and and Baltimore tried to get pressure with four, 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.080 They tried to blitz and they you know, Ben had time. 0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:34.720 You know, he went down a couple of times. But 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.080 can you get there's the question, because they're really good 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.440 up front, rob their center is just okay. Their Senter 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:46.680 is just a guy. Huh what was that? Ye? Yeah, 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.560 just a guy. Okay, just the guy. All right. Yeah, 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.240 for those of you listening right now, I'm sorry for 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.720 the sarcasm that is being played from Isaiah standing back, 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.840 because that is he's trying to start up. He's trying 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.840 to start an argument. That's not that's not true. He's 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:02.880 only one of the best, only one of the best 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.280 centers in the game. That's all. Maybe ever had been 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.560 around for a while. Yeah, I mean, he's been as 0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:11.240 efficient as anybody in the NFL since he entered the league. Now, 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.560 they've also got Villaneueva on the left tackle spot who's 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.120 pretty stout as well, and so you're gonna see Alden 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.040 Smith and Randy Gregory going up against him. He's been hurt, 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.560 he's been he's been hurt, but he's still he still 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.880 should be there this week. I believe. I think he's 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:26.879 ready to go this week. I'll double check that here 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.200 in a second. But is this a game where DeMarcus 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.560 Lawrence has to even see a step up from what 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.400 we saw last week in order to really get any 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:40.240 kind of pressure on Big Ben. I mean the answer 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.920 is yes. I mean, not a yes, And I'll take 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.440 it a step further. The defense not only has to 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.959 get a turnover, they have to get some form of 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:53.600 points because if this think about it, guys, and since 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.040 Dak Prescott was injured, the Cowboys have had thirty two 0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.840 drives where we've only manufactured one score. So that tells 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.000 you we need help. And the help has to come 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.880 in the form of a defensive turnover that goes to 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.760 the house. We've got to try and get points any 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:14.560 which way we possibly can. So yes, does it. Does 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.600 de Marcus Lawrence need to get Not only does he 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.880 need to get a sack, he needs to carry Ben 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.840 to the end zone with the ball in his hands. 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:28.720 While he's doing it, Llain the same size. Heck, yeah, 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.440 that's true. Villain Aueva has not been on the injury 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.240 reports since September twenty first, and he's playing in every 0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.760 down role right now, so he's should be good to 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:45.400 go in terms of the left tackle spot for Pittsburgh. 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.080 But whenever you look at the interior of this office 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.120 or this defensive line rather, you're not gonna get a 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.320 ton of pressure. It's just not gonna happen. That's not 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.640 gonna happen. Against Palency. It's not gonna happen against this 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:59.120 Pittsburgh offensive line. How good does this secondary have to 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:03.480 be against a Juju Smith Schuster, against the Chase Claypool, 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.440 even against eric Keybrown like you said previously, and even 0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.560 these linebackers against the run whenever it comes down to 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.040 the nitty gritty on Sunday, in order to have any 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:17.040 remote kind of success against this offense, I'm taking the 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.720 opposite approach to what I suggested last week. Last week, 0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.360 I suggested that you line up man to man and 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.360 you put some hands on them boys, right, because you 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.720 had some guys that were really unproven. There some guys 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.520 that we're kind of on the edge whether are they 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:29.920 are a real due or are they just kind of 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:35.320 flashing this week, don't line up man to man, please please, Ryan, 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:40.000 do please don't do this. Don't do it. Um. Just 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.080 just play zone right, play anything but the cover for 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.520 it that you've been playing. Just play a play a 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.920 soft cover two. And if they're gonna score, they're gonna 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.480 score anyways, but at least slow them down, right, at 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.520 least slow them down. Don't let these guys strike whatever 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.360 they want to, like, just just give your guys a chance. 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.040 And last week it was a great you know, it 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.600 was a great They they took a step forward on defense, 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:03.720 and we talked about it. We talked about it in 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.520 the film room. How these guys were. They were playing 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.480 a position, playing the roles they were supposed to play 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.360 whenever they play his own defense. Right, they were where 0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.880 they were supposed to be. If they can continue to 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.960 do that, they would be in position for success. Right 0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.360 because a lot of teams don't have the patients to 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.440 march down the field. Most teams want that big shot. 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.680 A lot of offensive coordinators, especially when they have the 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.800 resources in personnel, like they like the Steelers, due they 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:28.479 don't really want to march all the way down they 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:29.880 really go. They'll do it for a little bit and 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.440 then they get a little greedy. They're like, all right, 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.280 let me take the big shot. And that's what you 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.520 wait on when you're playing his own defense. So that's 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.960 my suggestion. Hey, we need to play some Cover two. 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.080 We need to play some Cover six, we need to 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.760 play some Cover five. We need to mix it up, 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.160 play some some out of the ordinary type of coverages 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.320 just to try to throw off Roethlisberger's a little bit 0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:49.720 and give your guys a chance to keep everything in 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.760 front of them, because if you try to step up 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.520 Trayvon Diggs and try to man him up with any 0:31:54.560 --> 0:32:01.720 of these guys, they're gonna run right by him. Rob. Yeah. 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:02.960 I mean, the only thing I would add to that 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.200 is you just gotta be if you're gonna give that cushion, 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.760 you got to be sound in space because you know, 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.680 guy like Deonte Johnson, you know they'll they'll throw him 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.240 a quick screen or flair and he's off to the races. 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.040 So he's you know, he's they have a lot of 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.120 versatility with their receivers and what they can bring to 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:20.520 the table. So he's a guy you've got to be 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.239 really mindful of um. And you know they'll use those 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.120 jet sweeps to try to set up the run game, 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.440 and you just gotta be really sound, like we've talked 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.080 about all year, sound in your communication, Like as I said, 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.160 sound in your assignments. And they were better at that 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.320 last week. Now this is a much better offense by 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.520 far that they're facing, So it'll be a really good 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.880 test of what their progress really is right now mid season, 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:45.440 and we still hadn't brought up Juju Smiths Houston and right, Yeah, 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.560 and that's that's another part of their offense that is 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.120 really dynamic and just insibility to run those intermediate routes 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.760 but also stretch the field as well. So this is 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.240 a matchup for us, and especially with the big bodies 0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.880 that they have with Claypool and also run. We just 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.080 know that it's we have a mismatched problem. And I 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:08.320 agree with you Isaiah zone forms of couple four. We're 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.160 gonna have to and for our dvs and our secondary 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.320 the communication is going to be key because when they 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.600 go to those bunch when they go to those bunch formations, 0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.160 you know it's just a guy going to out guy 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.080 doing this slant and another one doing a go. We 0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.520 have been miserable h in those formations as far as 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.840 this guy's communicating. That's what has got better last week 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.880 and they have to build on that. And what was 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.480 really crazy about that heck was was Ben said after 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.840 the game. They basically just drawn up plays in the dirt. 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.520 They basically got in the huddle and just said, hey, 0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:39.160 you go here, you go here like you do, you know, 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.600 just backyard football what he said. And it worked. I 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.600 mean it worked. They just you know, kind of scrapped 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.040 the game plan and said, spread you out. We're gonna 0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.320 try to make some something happen downfield, and they did. 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.680 Whenever it comes to those formations, and I know, heck man, 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.160 you've brought it up a couple different times tonight or 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.000 I guess this morning rather, I'm completely off in terms 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.240 of my time, but you've brought it up a couple 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.600 of times this morning in those formations, and you set communication. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.040 Is that all you need in order to find a 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.880 way to defend those things, especially whenever there's a lot 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:17.239 of miscommunication previously in previous weeks from this Cowboys defense. Well, 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.920 you need that and you need playmakers. I mean, if 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.080 you get both of those things together, I think you're 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.560 gonna have a little bit more success. But that's where 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.640 that's what we haven't been doing, Kylin. And when you 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.040 have offensive what we just see, guys we're outflanked or 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.280 guys running streaking down the field with NOE one chasing, 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.600 that's a problem. And I think Pittsburgh, because of those formations, 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.040 they are going to bring back a bit of the 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.279 problem that we had before. Look, Carson Wentz last week 0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.520 was horrible. It was horrible. And this week we get 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:54.239 the polar opposite of Carson Wentz is horrible. I'm glad 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.560 you said that too whenever it comes to playmakers. 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Okay, 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:48.160 so before we get into this discussion with Isaiah, here 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.080 in a second, I've got another read I've got to 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.040 go through. So whether you're watching from home or cheering 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.080 in the stands with l or lenses, you'll see every 0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.759 exciting playbook, an appointment at your local or experts and 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.360 find the perfect l L for you. See more, do 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:06.560 more or of course, and Isaiah is mailing the words along, 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.640 speaking through his teeth. Here in this final segment of 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.040 talking Cowboys and Isaiah, I want I'm gonna let you 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.840 start this off because prior to the break, I asked 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.640 the question, are we ready to call Trey Von Diggs 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.040 a playmaker? He had his first and second career interceptions 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.279 in that loss against Philadelphia has been close on a 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.080 number of occasions, but he's had his ups and downs, 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.879 to say the least in his rookie season. I want 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.800 to hear what you have to say on him moving forward. 0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.359 Is he a playmaker now? And if not, how long 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:40.520 is it going to take. I'm going to answer your 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.600 first question, and no, he's not a playmaker currently. Okay 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:53.799 's a He's a tough, tenacious, competitive, rocky cornerback who 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.879 I think is getting better every week. He's getting better 0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.000 every week. Um, he I know, I know we're responsible 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:01.920 by tostitos and I mentioned this other day, but he 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.440 has to stop getting tostito right. Um, he has to 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.959 find a way. If you're gonna play press man, play 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.560 press man, bro like your presence is not your presence 0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.240 isn't doing anything. This is the NFL. Guys, aren't afraid 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.560 of what you may do. If you're gonna step up there, 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.239 put your hands on him, right, You're big enough to 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.239 do so. So I think he has to get better 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.080 at his press coverage. I think he will be more 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.480 successful with his man to man coverage if he starts 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.120 utilizing his hands. Um, and once he recognizes he has 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.399 that power, it's like, uh, you know, he's like, they're 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.640 getting an infinity stone for him. Right. He'll he'll, he'll, 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.000 he'll realize that he has more powers than he currently has. Um. 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.040 But as of right now, he's not a playmaker. In 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.879 the interceptions from last week, we know what those were. 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.520 I mean, we know what those were. One was a 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.960 fantastic player. They were both terrible. They were both terrible throws, 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:50.600 but they were both really one. One was absolutely two 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.800 great catches by him. Um, but it wasn't his coverage 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.879 that did it. I don't want to take anything away 0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:58.919 from him, but he knows that, he knows. He knows 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.680 that he should he knows that he shouldn't have had 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.360 those opportunities to intersect the ball, but he when they 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.000 came to him, he took him. I'm not mad at him. 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.520 You're supposed to do. That's a good job on that. 0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.800 But he didn't earn that. He didn't earn those plays. 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.760 If you guys see what I'm getting that anyways, Um, 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.200 but he will be I think he will be a 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:14.920 star in this league. I think he will be. You know, 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.200 all all the trash that I give him, Um, he's 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.840 just young, you know, and in professionals take advantage of 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.960 young dudes, right, they're gonna torch him. His job is, unfortunately, 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.239 because Cheeto's been her, his job is to stick the 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.879 number the best guy that that we play against. That's 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.160 not that's not fair for a rookie um and that's 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.840 been his fate. But I think, and probably about you know, 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.919 probably two years from now, he'll probably be a guy 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:46.400 that everybody in his league will want. Hackman. Do you agree? Uh? Yeah, 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.520 I think Isaiah's is man. He is tough on his 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.799 grading uh grade cheat. Don't want to be in mister 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:56.359 Stanbacks class at all if you're a rookie corner. But 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.320 you know, I think also when it comes down to digs, 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:03.040 it's been a trial by fire and he's had number 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.640 one receiver after number one receiver on his plate and 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.239 he's had to deal with it. And yes, you have. 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:10.879 You can go back to the tape and you can 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.920 see where he got caught with his hand in the 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.279 cookie jar on a few times. But then you can 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.480 also go back to the tape and see where this 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.319 guy is playing really tough and he's getting close to 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.759 stepping in front of a few balls and close, don't 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.600 almost don't matter, right, But he's getting to the point 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.799 where he's confident. His confidence is building. We have to 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.040 continue to groom that, grow that and not destroy it. 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.959 And I think getting guys like Cheeto back will help him. Yeah, 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.279 that helps, and that allows him to be able to 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.680 be free. But also understanding the defense. We've been talking 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:48.600 about this defense at Lynn and whether these guys understand coverages, 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.480 especially with the defensive line or the linebackers. Everything has 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.520 looked out of sorts. But in the middle of that, 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.200 I think that we can look at number twenty seven 0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.879 and say we have a future with this. Right. And 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.640 so the Alabama defense that he came to saving had 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.920 a much more intricate scheme. So he understands that. But 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.239 right now, just playing within himself and not listening to 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.439 the nationairs and people calling him tostitos and all of that, 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.200 and just build on what's you got, Bill, what's a guy? 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.320 And just get better. Rook we went to dog, we 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.600 went to Digs. He gonna be he gonna be awesome. 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.120 So you're saying, in time, Isaiah, he's gonna be the 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:30.360 Thanos of the of the dB universe with the stone. 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.719 You know, I do Rob I do, But I think 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.239 he has all the attributes that you want. Yeah, you know, 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.520 when you think about you know, the short memory, when 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.759 you think about competitiveness, you know, he has a lot 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.440 of contested you know, defensive players where he's right on 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.919 guys backs. He's getting balls batted down and you know 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.759 when guys are trying to run one step slants and 0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.359 things of that nature. He's competitive man, and he comes 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.880 right back at you regardless if he gets tortured or not. 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.920 He comes right back. He's like a little pest. And 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.120 that's what you want from a cornerback. Now, he has 0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:58.880 good size, he can run around, he can run a 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.319 little bit. He just has proof upon certain things. Of course, 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.279 he has to improved and he's faced the best that 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.560 this league has to offer. So of course that's not 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:08.080 that's not a recipe for success. But down the road, 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.360 I think he's gonna be a beast. Now, yeah, I 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.919 agree with you, guys. I think he's you know, he's 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.759 he has struggled for a lot of stretches this year, 0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.759 and that's not really surprising, especially given given the way 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:21.719 the defense has been on their heels the entire year 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.359 or two. I mean, they haven't played with leads and 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.520 so that's that's been It's that's a tough situation to 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.839 be in as a DV, I think. Um, but yeah, 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:33.520 he has all the physical gifts because like those interceptions 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:37.359 were gifts, right, But it also shows his his ball 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.279 skills and it shows I think it illustrates how you 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.200 can tell he's been a receiver because heat man, he 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.600 can go up and get the ball. Uh, Like you said, 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.840 he's got great size. Um, And yeah, I think it 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.120 just comes down to technique. You know. You know when 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.360 he got beat by by Terry McLaurin a couple of 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.880 weeks ago, is just get his eyes in the backfield. 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.440 He wasn't he wasn't you know, he wasn't playing his man. 0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.480 You know. It's just little things like that that I 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.000 think come with experience and he knows that, but you know, 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.640 it's just it's just fine tune in that and yeah, 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.400 I think a year from now he's going to be 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.520 a much better player. Now. Heckma mentioned this earlier in 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.600 the show, So if you if you missed it early live, 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.080 go back and listen to us on iTunes or wherever 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.719 you find your shows. But Heckma mentioned it. It was 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:23.040 a great point of needing playmakers to discount maybe some 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.920 of these these miscommunications, especially in a Steeler's offense, like 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.360 we're seeing right now. But who else is a playmaker? 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:34.360 We've just established Treyvon Diggs as kind of a borderline playmaker, 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.680 but somebody who's trending that direction may not be there yet. 0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.120 But who is a playmaker when you look on this 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.600 defensive side of the football, Because do you have one 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.120 definitive guy right now that could be a playmaker specifically 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:57.080 and definitively. It's a lot of positive yea, is it? 0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:01.719 Is it? DeMarcus? Urrence? Is that about it? Yeah? That's it? 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:08.160 And Alden we can go tank Alden. Yeah. Vanderesh's he 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.000 I think is he has more time to settle in 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:11.719 and he made a big play the other other day. 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.200 I think, you know, if he if he can yeah, 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.840 I mean, if he stays healthy and can continue to 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.840 He really hadn't played any year basically, I mean he played, 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.879 you know, please played a couple of games since coming 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.560 back from the collar bone. I think he has that 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.400 type of We've seen it. I mean we've seen it 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.960 his rookie year. We saw it. So he's just got 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.880 to stay on the field. And I thought you were 0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.880 talking about it from a secondary aspect. But yes, obviously 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:37.359 Tank is that and he's obviously had a better game 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.120 last week. Alden Smith has has substituted for tanking those 0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.680 times that he was not as effective. But even those 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.480 role players like Donovan Wilson, guy's like you know the 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.960 safety number thirty seven Woods, I mean, these guys came up. 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.480 He had a great blitz and forced to turn over 0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.359 last week. That was great for from a second Darry 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.600 that had. We've been dogging these guys so little things 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.959 like that. The Cowboys have to keep trying to manufacture 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.919 that defensively so that they can get the ball back 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:14.920 for this offense. It's really about it again. Okay, go 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:18.000 for it, Isaiah, tell me why so I can't go 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.640 with d Lali. I love his effort. I love his effort. 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.880 I don't think that d law is going to be 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.759 the player that he that he can be until he 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:29.040 plays on a team that has somebody better than him. 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:32.000 I think I think he needs a mentor. I think 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.840 he needs like a d Wear or a von Miller 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.319 or somebody like that to show him the way, Like 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.680 the Mandalorian. This is the way. I think he needs 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.359 a knee. He needs one of those guys. I think 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.719 he has an effort. I think he has the fight 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.280 in him, but I think he's still missing the skill 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.520 sets that you know, just like just does just little 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:50.359 just a little things that they really put him over 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.080 the edge. But he has an intangibles that you really 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.719 can't teach the guys to want to. I honestly think 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.080 Aldon Smith I'm not. I think he's been probably probably 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.960 playing injured the last couple of weeks, honestly, but I 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.759 think Aldis Smith is probably our only playmaker. How it is, 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.319 He's the only guy. He's the only guy that he's 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:12.400 the only guy that, when you think about, can disrupt offense. 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.480 He's the only guy that you think about, there's nobody, 0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.680 there's nobody else on our team that you can say, oh, 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.719 they disrupt what they're trying to do. Aldi Smith is 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.879 probably the only guy that they that they circle whenever 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.359 they're playing this say, have Aldon Smith shows up today, 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.000 This is who we have to worry about now, de 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.560 law you circle him and say he's gonna keep coming, right, 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.480 He's gonna keep coming. He's gonna keep fighting. He's gonna 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.399 keep grinding. But he's not a guy that you let 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.000 you say he's gonna disrupt what we do, not yet 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:37.920 at least, I don't know if I agree. I think 0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.680 I think de Law has a chance to be I 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.000 agree the hasn't played up to the expectations, but I 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.680 think overall that's a guy who you would still consider 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.160 a playmaker and somebody who can disrupt the team because 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.160 he's done it on occasion. I mean, see what he 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.000 did in that Giants game and ended up winning you 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.360 the football game with the strip sack and the fumble 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.239 and the scoop and score in that one. He can 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.959 make those plays, and he has done it throughout his career. 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.040 You just got to do it more consistently on his partner. 0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.239 He's gonna have a chance to show that coming up 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.120 on Sunday. That's gonna do it here for today, when 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.800 we come back tomorrow, we're gonna talk about the Cowboys offense. 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.880 How did they get things going with Cooper Rush and 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:17.439 or Garrett Gilbert at quarterback against the best defense quite 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:21.239 possibly in the NFL, especially within you got t J. 0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:24.040 Watt on the other side in a bevy of casting 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.600 characters that are gonna be coming at him hot and 0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.080 heavy on Sunday. It's gonna be a it's gonna be 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.880 a tough matchup, but we'll preview it tomorrow. Thanks for 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.520 sticking with us here over the last forty five minutes 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.280 for Chris Beam in the back, Risais Dan Back, Rob Phillips, 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.960 and Hack Harrison. 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