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Speaker 1: Say hello and welcome my favorite murder. That's Georgia Hartstark.

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Speaker 2: That's Karen Kilgarrett. This is the Mini So that's right.

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Speaker 2: We don't do it like that, I know, but it's okay. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty six. The world is ending. We can

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Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck we want at this point. Nope.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. This is where we come to get

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Speaker 3: away from that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Turning my phone off.

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Speaker 3: Oh is that the police?

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Speaker 2: Hell? Hi, okay, it's a minisode.

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Speaker 3: We're going to read you emails that you sent to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, should I go first? Sure? Okay, this is called

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Speaker 2: New Orleans Car Crash. Oh hey, I love y'all and

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Speaker 2: could go into pleasantries for five paragraphs, but I don't

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 3: I want you to.

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Speaker 2: When I was twenty three years old, I was driving

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Speaker 2: home around one am after having a movie night at

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Speaker 2: a friend's house. I was crossing a major intersection underneath

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Speaker 2: an overpass when a car came out of nowhere, made

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Speaker 2: an illegal left turn, and smashed into my driver's side door.

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Speaker 2: I did not see it coming. My car spun around

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Speaker 2: twice and hit a cement support underneath the overpass. All

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Speaker 2: the windows, including the windshield shattered in the collision, all

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Speaker 2: the windows and all the air bags deployed. My driver's

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Speaker 2: side door wouldn't open, and I was forced to climb

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Speaker 2: had fled the scene. It was late. I was scared

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Speaker 2: and in a bad part of town. I called the

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Speaker 2: New Orleans police three times, and no one ever showed up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in a bad part of town.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no one's coming.

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Speaker 3: They don't get that service.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, six people ran from the gas

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Speaker 2: station across the street. They helped me push my car

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Speaker 2: out of the intersection and told me there was no

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Speaker 2: way the police were coming, but they would sit and

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Speaker 2: wait with me on the curb until someone came to

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Speaker 2: get me. One of them was a nurse getting off

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Speaker 2: shift from the nearby hospital, and used her phone light

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Speaker 2: to check me for concussions. Oh, concussions are just concussion,

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Speaker 2: it says, concussion.

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Speaker 3: Multiple concussions all over their head.

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Speaker 2: Can you get multiple concussions?

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Speaker 3: Maybe if you hit your head on the steering.

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Speaker 2: Well and then back only here.

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Speaker 3: And then here comes the airbag.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it works. She'd informed me that

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Speaker 2: if I had braced for the collision. There was a

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Speaker 2: good chance I would either be unresponsive or worse. Could

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Speaker 2: you know that, like you get injured worse if you're.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, and that's why drunk people usually come

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Speaker 3: out of stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Just fine. I remember I got in a bad car

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Speaker 2: accident ten years ago, and I remember going I saw

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Speaker 2: it coming, and I said to myself, just relax, like

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Speaker 2: I knew it was going to happen, and I just

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Speaker 2: like made myself relax. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Can I just tell you that's the benefit of your anxiety.

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Speaker 3: You probably absolutely ran that possibility in your head at one.

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Speaker 2: Point, absolutely always. Jesus Christ, Oh wow, yeah, that's so cool.

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Speaker 2: And that was fine, Like it was a pretty bad accident.

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Speaker 3: God damn Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Put on fucking age Jesus. All right, so everyone remember that,

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Speaker 2: okay in your anxiety dat dreams.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead and relax during the car crush.

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Speaker 2: Open a book. Car crash. And then they said, I

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Speaker 2: luckily let the accident with only cuts from the glass breaking.

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Speaker 2: One man, the sweetest Nola grampa you've ever seen. And

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Speaker 2: for me, the car which had hit me had pulled

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Speaker 2: two blocks away and was sitting down the street with

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Speaker 2: the lights off. That's so menacing, or.

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Speaker 3: Like maybe they were like I did something bad. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just waiting and watching. I don't know about y'all,

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Speaker 2: but if I was to hit someone that badly, I

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Speaker 3: Could have been in shock, that's right.

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Speaker 2: As I walked up to the car to get the

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Speaker 2: driver's info, all six people walked with me as support.

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Speaker 2: When the driver rolled down their window, they were clearly

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Speaker 2: have made mistakes in my past, and I know things happened,

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Speaker 2: you need comes from unexpected places, and never underestimate how

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Speaker 2: powerful community is. I know we're supposed to look for

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Speaker 2: the helpers, but this night the helpers found me. God. PS.

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Speaker 2: When I went to check on my car the next morning,

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Speaker 2: embedded in the middle of my driver's side door. I

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Speaker 2: don't know who's up there in the sky, but I'm

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Speaker 2: glad she was looking out for me that night. And

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Speaker 2: I'm thankful for the amazing community in what I think

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Speaker 2: is the best city ever. People really are amazing SSDGM

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Speaker 2: and please don't hit and run G.

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Speaker 3: What a wonderful request at the end of that. Even

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Speaker 3: that is like so touching.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: Also the odds that a nurse would be standing by

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Speaker 2: And that six people are the kind of people who

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Speaker 3: That makes me think of my car accident at the

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Speaker 3: end of your street that night, and it was like

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Speaker 3: a lady going go ahead, and you can go. And

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Speaker 2: So crazy.

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Speaker 3: I hate car accidents too. The subject line of this

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Speaker 3: email is the time three little girls were going to

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Speaker 3: take down the night stalker. Hey there, am I make

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Speaker 3: believe besties. During the summer of nineteen eighty five, my

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Speaker 3: stalker panic. It was terrifying, especially for us kids, because

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Speaker 3: he was loose in our area. The news kept tossing

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Speaker 3: out ominous patterns, like what color houses he targeted?

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Speaker 2: Remember that? No, I don't year was it?

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Speaker 3: You were too young? It was like in the early.

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Speaker 2: and that just sounds fucking horrifying.

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Speaker 3: It would just be on the nightly news he's looking

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Speaker 2: Did you just always think someone's about to climb through

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Speaker 3: It was so crazy, was really. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: so my fear and fascination were basically holding hands. One night,

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Speaker 3: We were in the den watching TV when a helicopter

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Speaker 3: We panicked, but we panicked with purpose. I grabbed a bat,

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Speaker 3: because you know, nothing says self defense like Aquinette. That's

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Speaker 3: actually true. That shit can do serious damage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get a lighter near there, and you're done for.

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Speaker 3: We crept through the pitch black living room and burst

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Speaker 3: exploded everywhere. That's it, just a rogue ceiling light trying

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Speaker 3: like the brave little idiots that we were. Fast forward

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Speaker 3: to after your San Diego show, when my sister and

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Speaker 3: I still can't believe they left us alone. That summer,

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Speaker 3: everyone was like, Eh, the girls will be fine. It's

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Speaker 3: so true. Stay sexy and check your light fixtures. Dan Yale,

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Speaker 3: Dan Yale, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yale, Oh, Dan Yale, Danielle Yale. I love that, and

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Speaker 2: I love panic with purpose. That's new purpose. That's that.

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Speaker 2: The theme of this is panic with purpose.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of what you did in your car exactly.

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Speaker 3: You can panic, just panic with panic with.

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Speaker 2: Purpose, like it's okay. I love that. We have to

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Speaker 2: get shirts made like in Sweet Honesty writing Panic.

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Speaker 3: With Purpose, Panic with Purpose the new.

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Speaker 2: Fragrance Bite Georgia. It smells like fear and bo This

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Speaker 2: one is about Poe at Grolem Poe and this episode

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Speaker 2: comes out on his birthday.

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Speaker 3: Oh so so great. Yeah, this is also a literary podcast,

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Speaker 3: right we are so smarts us High Murder Racintours. Oh

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Speaker 3: that's the first. This is a real smarty pants email.

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Speaker 2: And this is called hometown Story Poe Baltimore and the

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Speaker 2: mysterious Poe Toaster. Like, what do you think about Poe toaster?

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a machine in your kitchen, right, My.

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Speaker 3: Hope is that it's a toaster that when the toe

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's not. It's confusing. They mean like a toast

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Speaker 2: does in like cheers. Okay, so it confused me the beginning. Okay,

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Speaker 2: High Murder Recondoors. I was thrilled when the twenty eight

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Speaker 2: October twenty twenty one episode discussed the death of Edgar

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Speaker 2: Allan Poe. I now live in Canada, but I grew

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Speaker 2: foul play, that's a hometown murder for me. You've got

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Speaker 2: a lot yeah in Baltimore. And I thought you might

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Speaker 2: also like to know about a po but not murder

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Speaker 2: related mystery the motivations and identity of an unknown person

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Speaker 2: or people referred to as the Poe Toaster toast. Poe's

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Speaker 2: birthday is January nineteenth, and for the whole time I

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Speaker 2: figure dressed in black face obscured by a hat or

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Speaker 2: night of January nineteenth. The person would then stand up

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Speaker 2: Poe's grave, pour a glass of coniac toast the grave,

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Speaker 2: and drink. Along with the koniak bottle. Three red roses

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Speaker 2: were always left on the grave. Occasionally there would also

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Speaker 2: be a note, and then the Poe Toaster would leave

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Speaker 3: Was it a raven.

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Speaker 2: No. There are theories about why these specific objects were left,

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Speaker 2: but to this day, no one knows for sure who

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Speaker 2: the Poe Toaster was or why this person carried out

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Speaker 2: Is that? So if you're listening to this on that day,

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Speaker 3: This would be the Phoe Toaster or the poetast Tost.

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Speaker 3: The subject line of this email is why were you

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Speaker 3: These are the things that make up our lives. You've

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Speaker 3: As a well seasoned seventeen year old with five full

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Speaker 3: Of them an animal, They're like candy. As a seventeen

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Speaker 2: Holy shit, what happens when you put those in you?

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Speaker 2: I know that you dilate, but it like can you

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Speaker 2: Fucked up? Like she dilated her eyes for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: My last one is, uh, cat murder. I love to blab,

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Speaker 3: Wow, wow, I couldn't like reprogressions. Yeah that's yeah, but

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Speaker 3: they let okay, they let her believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Then comes COVID lockdown when families are forced to

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Speaker 2: actually talk, where my parents were shocked to find out that,

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Speaker 2: at the age of twenty one, I still believe the

442
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Speaker 2: bird flu was the origin of Jacob and Sarah's death.

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Speaker 2: Turns out the reality is that my sweet beloved, overweight

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Speaker 2: brown tabby cat Angie murdered the birds by jumping on

445
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Speaker 2: their cage, knocking it off the cage hook, and trying

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Speaker 2: to capture them until they both had heart attacks and died.

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Speaker 2: Oh Mo, Mo would be so proud of himself, Like

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Speaker 2: I could see him doing that. Yeah, yeah, that's such

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Speaker 2: a cat thing, and then it's done. Paragraph. I am

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Speaker 2: still processing this to truly explain how we just do

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Speaker 2: not talk about things in my family. My first year

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Speaker 2: of medical school, I was living in another state and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: This is a fucking doctor we're talking about. Only children

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Speaker 3: are fucked up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, they have no Like, can I bounce this

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Speaker 2: off of you real quick? Yes? My sibling thinks this

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Speaker 2: is bananas too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, or like my sibling's here to ruin everything intentionally

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Speaker 3: for me, which actually educates me about the world.

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Speaker 2: Like if this person had gotten made fun of for

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Speaker 2: believing that by a sibling, I would have gone on

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Speaker 2: to it quicker than No. Twenty one. No. My first

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Speaker 2: year of medical school, I was living in another state

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Speaker 2: and had dreams nightly that Angie was dead. She was

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Speaker 2: seventeen at the time, so we knew her time was

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Speaker 2: coming to an end, but she was visiting me in

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Speaker 2: my sleep. Nightly. I would ask my mom if Angie

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Speaker 2: was okay, because I was so thrown off from my dreams,

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Speaker 2: and she would always reply that Angie was alive and well,

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Speaker 2: catching lizards and begging for treats, just cat stuff. Then,

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Speaker 2: one hour after my first medical school exam, my little sister,

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Speaker 2: then twelve years old and mean, so she was an

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Speaker 2: only child till she was ten. Yeah, then twelve years

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Speaker 2: old and mean called and said only the following Angie

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Speaker 2: died three weeks ago. When we didn't want to make

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Speaker 2: you fail your test. If we told you bye bye

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Speaker 2: bye hung up. Yes, I should get a therapist. Picks

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Speaker 2: of Angie attached, stay sexy, and don't assume your child

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Speaker 2: has common sense. Yes, so she's beautiful cat in a dress.

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Speaker 3: That's a hilarious picture of a cat in a dress.

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Speaker 3: That's really funny.

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Speaker 2: That one just like she looks very stupid.

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Speaker 3: She's like, get me out of here.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: But then as really dreamed, this cat died, like was

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Speaker 3: really connected and did I know.

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Speaker 2: Fuck sisters, Like even when you have nothing in common,

489
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Speaker 2: like nothing to do with them, they're going to be

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Speaker 2: a jerk to you anyway.

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Speaker 3: Also, that twelve year old was just sitting there waiting

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Speaker 3: until the moment that she could make that phone call.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny. Okay, the subject line of this email

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Speaker 3: is the getaway driver. It just starts. Now, let's get

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Speaker 3: into it. In the mid nineteen seventies, my grandma was

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Speaker 3: babysitting my brother and sister. I wouldn't be born for

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Speaker 3: another eight or so years. She had also had to

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Speaker 3: get some work done in her car. She and the

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Speaker 3: mechanic agreed on a price, and my grandma went to

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Speaker 3: the bank to withdraw the necessary cash. When my grandma,

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Speaker 3: brother and sister went back for the car, the mechanic

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Speaker 3: wanted more money than they had originally agreed. Pretty much,

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Speaker 3: everyone knows that this is par for the course with mechanics.

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Speaker 3: They don't know Grandma Jesse. My grandma wasn't just regular

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Speaker 3: Scottish amounts of frugal. She was quote raised on a

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Speaker 3: farm formative years in the Great Depression in World War Two,

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Speaker 3: and had to earn her own money for her own

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Speaker 3: stuff because I guess my grandpa didn't think that raising

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Speaker 3: five kids was job enough. Level frugal Jesus m She

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Speaker 3: handed the keys to my siblings and told them to

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Speaker 3: go wait in the car. My brother did what he

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Speaker 3: always did when he got into the car at that age,

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Speaker 3: immediately laid down on the back seat and went to sleep.

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Speaker 3: When he woke up, there were sirens. They were being

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Speaker 3: chased by the police, so who was the getaway driver

516
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Speaker 3: my grandma? Instead of paying the extra fees, my grandma

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Speaker 3: got into the car and rammed it into the locked

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Speaker 3: gates and took off no way was a shady mechanic,

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Speaker 3: and to make her granddaughter late to gymnastics. My grandma

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Speaker 3: also did not pull over for cops, but drove the

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Speaker 3: four point five kilometers about two zero point seventy five

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Speaker 3: miles to gymnastics before dealing with the fuzz because she

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Speaker 3: sent my brother and sister inside. This story never really

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Speaker 3: had a proper resolution, so I asked my mom to

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Speaker 3: fill in the end. My grandma was never charged, so

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Speaker 3: she probably flirt intimidated the cops. My grandpa settled up

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Speaker 3: with the body shop. Thank you for the forum to

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Speaker 3: share this Jesse story. She died October third, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: and COVID prevented us from having the kind of funeral

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Speaker 3: where this story would have brought the house down. Proud

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Speaker 3: to do it now. Yeah, my Jesse is a badass.

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Speaker 3: Stay sexy and get away with property damage.

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Speaker 2: April, Oh my god, the grandma's.

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Speaker 3: Legendary Grandma story is always welcome on this show.

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Speaker 2: Panic with Purpose? Yes, Yes, what's your panic with purpose story? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you have one of those? Anyone? Everyone? Like?

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Speaker 3: For example, when I got caught in a wave in

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Speaker 3: Hawaii and I knew I wasn't coming out of that water,

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Speaker 3: so I was like I was in a ball tumbling

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Speaker 3: in a wave, and I was like, you can't panic,

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Speaker 3: just hold your breath and hang out. Then I popped up.

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Speaker 2: Fucking anxiety, man, it's your life. It really does send

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Speaker 2: us your panic with purpose stories at my favorite murder

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Speaker 2: at Gmail.

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Speaker 3: We're just really pushing this panic with purpose about it.

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Speaker 2: Stay sexy and don't get murdered. Goodbye, Elvis. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to cookie?

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Speaker 2: Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer

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Speaker 2: is Tessa Hughes.

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Speaker 3: Our editor is Aristotle Ascevedo.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Leona Scuolacci.

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