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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast made a football move. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hands and I'm joined by room

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Speaker 1: filled with some different heroes, Dave Damask, Chris Wessling, and

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Speaker 1: another member of Dave's crew coming in a little later.

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Speaker 1: What's up, buys? Hello, Dan? How are you well? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a pleasure. I appreciate your enthusiasm for one. West

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Speaker 1: seems less excited about it, but I'm gonna match it.

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Speaker 1: West is kind of like you know, down home folk.

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Speaker 1: He keeps it, He keeps it relatively level. Key is

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Speaker 1: on the island. You never get too hot, never get

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Speaker 1: too low. Thanks thanks to Booze. Even you know who's

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Speaker 1: more excited than anyone right now behind the glass, t

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Speaker 1: d are gonna go to him a little earlier than

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Speaker 1: usual today because our big crossover episode, Handsome Hank is

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Speaker 1: gonna come here Henry Hodson at any moment, and once

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Speaker 1: he gets out of his Jaguar and comes upstairs, which

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Speaker 1: will give us our first true crossover episode between the

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Speaker 1: Dave dam Check Football Program and the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: And t is excited forget so many for getting morevel

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Speaker 1: for get Spider Man. This is where it's at. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know you guys up to, got you guys up

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Speaker 1: to by the way, let's coulmt down with Spider Man.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm seeing the news another new Spider Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know you had enough shots at this point. I know,

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Speaker 1: I agree, but it is this is ridiculous. Is this

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Speaker 1: a brand new one? Like this is not It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be Andrew Garfield. It's gonna be a brand new

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Speaker 1: Spider Man. But this is a reboot? Are they going

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Speaker 1: to do the whole origin story again? There's no more

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Speaker 1: origin story? Get it with the spider bite and Mary

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Speaker 1: Jane and the dead uncle. Enough. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that this is ridiculous. This is this is now veering

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Speaker 1: into Hulk territory. They made that Hulk picture three times

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Speaker 1: in about five years. It feels like with three different

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Speaker 1: leading men. Now we're on the what are your nerds

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Speaker 1: talking about? Check to be acciate the Hulk That Mark

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Speaker 1: or Fellow and uh Ed Norton played the same, just

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Speaker 1: different actors. No the point, no, no, no, And then

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Speaker 1: there was also the Eric Bona one. Well yeah, those

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Speaker 1: those two are different. Alright, alright, don't you know what,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have brought it up. The new TV would

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Speaker 1: send it down a wormhole. Uh alright, So big show today, Henry.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, it's gonna come in a little later, Dave,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Um, you know we'll get to

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Speaker 1: a little later. Yes, we should mention Mark downstairs. Actually,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Greg is on paternity leave. Good job

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Speaker 1: bandage on his hand. It's like one of those bandages

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Speaker 1: that when you go into the interrogation room and the

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh I burned it. It doesn't stand up

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Speaker 1: when all of this happened. Mm hmm. Well that's a

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Speaker 1: good son son. I We can attest though, that there

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Speaker 1: were good times had in Phoenix, Arizona, the downtown area

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Speaker 1: there in Phoenix, Arizona. Hands as you were off doing

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Speaker 1: your fancy parties at night, trying to report back on

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Speaker 1: those now, is that your desire by the way if

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Speaker 1: were terrific, but I felt like it's very much It

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Speaker 1: By the end of the week it was very much

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Speaker 1: a job. Yeah, oh yeah, I I was sick by

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Speaker 1: approaching me about it. But if they had no way, uh,

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Speaker 1: just real quick production. It is to two part episode eight.

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Speaker 1: after two parts, listen to both. It's gonna be awesome. Excited,

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Speaker 1: I demand tryer by combact West? What's that from guessing

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Speaker 1: Game of Thrones? Wow? Good job by you, Good job West?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I watched Walking Dead the other and I

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Speaker 1: off to a nice start, all right. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. A little Peyton Manning update. We don't know

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Speaker 1: for sure if he's coming back, but NFL media insider

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported that Manning is working out in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans with an eye toward the two thousand fifteen NFL season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The thirty eight year old quarterback wants to see where

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Speaker 1: he is at physically. In the next stage of his

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Speaker 1: he can still do it? Dave you you're you're famous

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm famous for it. But I do

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Speaker 1: think word has spread uh sufficiently to to Peyton Manning's

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Speaker 1: So I like that I he and Kobe. He and

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Speaker 1: be anticlimactic to kibbitts with me. The question also is

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Speaker 1: if he is subpar, how subpar does he have to

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Speaker 1: be for them to to say, yeah, this is probably

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Speaker 1: not a great move to bring back a thirty nine

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Speaker 1: guy who's learned at the knee of Peyton Manning for

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Speaker 1: Moving you bring up Kobe, and he's a perfect example

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Speaker 1: wants Peyton Manning to come back. I heard the comments,

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Speaker 1: He's saying, I we do, of course we want the

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Speaker 1: clear that they they have big plans for him as

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Speaker 1: saying I think that Peyton Manning will come back. I

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that that's going to be the

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Speaker 1: that offense. Not You're not gonna believe this. Henry Hodson, Handsome,

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Speaker 1: But David speaking negatively about Peyton Manning. Really, I'm confused

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Speaker 1: whose podcast is this, Dave or is this yours? This

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Speaker 1: just dance by the way t D I know there

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Speaker 1: are times where you want to kill me, and I

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Speaker 1: know you acted when drops like that like you just

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Speaker 1: did like five minutes ago. Yeah, yeah, this is an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for you, by the way, to put some mustard

427
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Speaker 1: gas in here or something. No, I know, it's just

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Speaker 1: move forward after the after the full and a cross

429
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Speaker 1: of the podcast. But I'm excited for then maybe that

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Speaker 1: after it's over. Yeah, the last one. Uh. Finally, Ed Sable,

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Speaker 1: founder of NFL Films, passed away on Monday at the

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Speaker 1: age of We got some football heads in the room

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Speaker 1: right now in west and damn check to history, guys.

434
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Speaker 1: We got Hank not Americans. So we fell in love

435
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Speaker 1: with the game from afar. I didn't, and I actually

436
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Speaker 1: fell in because of benefits. I had a pile at

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Speaker 1: a stack of VHS videotapes from NFL films I would

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Speaker 1: buy from someone. There's some store. I don't even know

439
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Speaker 1: where I got them from. Actually that's p and uh

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Speaker 1: and I like fifty of these videotapes. Crunch Time, NFL

441
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Speaker 1: Films presents crunch Time. You know, all these type of

442
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Speaker 1: things is great. I have a tradition now, you know,

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Speaker 1: with this when we go to these Super Bowls, and

444
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Speaker 1: and I've been lucky enough to take my dad to

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Speaker 1: two of them, is that I play the NFL Power

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Speaker 1: and the Glory music in our hotel room when he

447
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Speaker 1: comes in, because that's what he grew up on, that

448
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Speaker 1: old NFL films music that scored so many of their

449
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Speaker 1: UH programs early on. So that that music to me

450
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Speaker 1: and we're listening to it now, is that's when I

451
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Speaker 1: think about that old NFL film stuff, and that's really

452
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Speaker 1: that helped me fall in love with football as well.

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Speaker 1: I think my biggest takeaway from Ed Sable is that

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Speaker 1: when the nineteen sixties began, he was selling overcoats and

455
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Speaker 1: the NFL was overshadowed completely by Major League Baseball, was

456
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Speaker 1: behind boxing and college football and popularity, and they hire

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Speaker 1: him in nineteen sixty two. He becomes what Sports Illustrated

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Speaker 1: calls the best propaganda arm in the history of corporate America,

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Speaker 1: and by the end of the decade, football has put

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Speaker 1: all other sports in the dust, and his number one

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Speaker 1: and eyeballs, television revenues and excitement for the game. It's

462
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: just a more entertaining sport thanks to NFL films. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: for guys of a certain age, and I guess we

464
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Speaker 1: all fit into that window. To me, it was it

465
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Speaker 1: was it is the number one reason why you become

466
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Speaker 1: why I became more than as much as I loved

467
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Speaker 1: all sports devoted to Pro football because of NFL films

468
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: and Facenda and the Sables wrote that language, that Facenda

469
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Speaker 1: would that would employ, you know, from the greater stuff.

470
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Speaker 1: And you know, I swoon over the Steelers talk, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: the twenty seven teams in the National Football League, and

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Speaker 1: then the all the pitch books steal all scored by

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Speaker 1: that that that that glorious uh music and the look

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Speaker 1: of everything. I mean, it's it's it is the number

475
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Speaker 1: one extra earn all sorts of influences for making you

476
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Speaker 1: love something. That Fantasy football also in there, but I

477
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Speaker 1: mean I really that you you rank those up there

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Speaker 1: with the most and Monday Night football. The pro football

479
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Speaker 1: has benefited from those three strokes, and it is the

480
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Speaker 1: real Those three reasons, I would say, are the reason

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Speaker 1: there's such a cavernous divide between NFL and whatever number

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Speaker 1: two at this point in sports. Well, put TD you

483
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Speaker 1: had a thought, Yeah, I mean I started my NFL

484
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Speaker 1: careers and NFL films so that you know holds a

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Speaker 1: special place in my heart. But I mean, just to

486
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Speaker 1: bring in full circle, the Super nine, awesome, great game.

487
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Speaker 1: That game was only made better by the Lens of

488
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Speaker 1: NFL films. If you go back and watch the sound

489
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Speaker 1: effects inside inside NFL stuff and it shows you how

490
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Speaker 1: great you know, what they do over there is and

491
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Speaker 1: it's pretty awesome stuff. It's a really special place as well.

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Speaker 1: If you've been lucky enough to visit NFL films, it's

493
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Speaker 1: it's incredible. They really do. They keep the history and

494
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what they call themselves, the Keepers

495
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Speaker 1: of the Flame. That you go and walk around that

496
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Speaker 1: building and there's just so much memorable, the amazing, amazing

497
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Speaker 1: old stuff there. So it's it's uh great to look

498
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Speaker 1: back on what the sables established their uh. And that

499
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Speaker 1: is the news, that's what's happening. And now we got

500
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Speaker 1: to talk about something a little unpleasant and I last

501
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Speaker 1: we talked about it downstairs. Don't know if I want

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Speaker 1: to bring it up, but you know, yesterday, uh, the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast had an interview scheduled to Legard

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Speaker 1: Blunt and it was scheduled at two fifty, so promptly

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Speaker 1: at two fifty West and I came upstairs h to

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Speaker 1: do the interview, and we got up and knocked on

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Speaker 1: the door, came in and the door opens, and what

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Speaker 1: is the site West that we're met with Dave Damage

509
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Speaker 1: already interviewing our intervieweet and the time ticked by, and

510
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Speaker 1: we waited behind the glass. In a certain moment, I

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Speaker 1: taped t D on the shoulder, said TD, we're out. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: he just bailed on the interview because the first thing,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I told black Tie to jam

514
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Speaker 1: something in the door, so you guys couldn't get into

515
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Speaker 1: the first day. So I'm reading the face about you

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Speaker 1: having seen you best part, the best part, by the way,

517
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Speaker 1: And it was a mix up and and TD had

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Speaker 1: some type of production issue on his end, hitting the

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Speaker 1: wrong button, so nothing was getting through to Dave's earpie's

520
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Speaker 1: And yeah, black Tie says after. So so we it

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Speaker 1: starts off and and if I may self promote, go

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Speaker 1: down NFL dot com. So Shane Vereen and I we

523
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Speaker 1: have all the great clips from the Super Bowl pre

524
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Speaker 1: from pregame through the interception. Talked to some Katie Perry.

525
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Speaker 1: What's going on in the Patriots locker is part of

526
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Speaker 1: the cross of the podcast, all right, but there's a

527
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Speaker 1: video that you can watch anyway. So anyway, so lag

528
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Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt happens along when we get into the subject

529
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Speaker 1: to who's more handsome? Tom brad here, Jimmy Garoppolo La Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Blunt felt he needed the way in on the subject,

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Speaker 1: and so he did. I couldn't be a rude host

532
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Speaker 1: and tell him no to that. I'm sure he couldn't

533
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Speaker 1: wait to weigh in on this, but so so Verene

534
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Speaker 1: leaves and Blunt ends up sticking around for another fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: He and I kibbits. We talked about it all because

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Speaker 1: I'm a Steelers guy, and so I wanted to know

537
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Speaker 1: how he parted ways with Pittsburgh and then finds himself

538
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Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl champigon I say, black Tie, if

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Speaker 1: I had to wrap up, I had no idea that

540
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Speaker 1: the guys were in their hands. Us and Westling. What

541
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Speaker 1: happened there? Black I said, I was talking in your

542
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Speaker 1: ear telling you to wrap up. I said, you weren't

543
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Speaker 1: talking to me. You didn't say anything to me, black

544
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Speaker 1: I says, Oh, I was hitting the wrong button. And

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Speaker 1: that's why, Yeah, crossover is happening, because yes, Lofell, the

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Speaker 1: Garry Blunt shame Verne are going to be part of

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Speaker 1: this podcast, episode Part two. If you want to talk

548
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Speaker 1: to I'd be happy to get you on Thursdays around

549
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast when we talking to the game winning

550
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Speaker 1: player Malcolm Malcolm Butler in the shils, then we're looking

551
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Speaker 1: forward to that. The best part to put a capital

552
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Speaker 1: before you move on is Dave SLINKs down the steps

553
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Speaker 1: and into the news room. I didn't slink down, announcer,

554
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, whistling Dixie. I did a victor laugh. I

555
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: just feel terrible better. I'm watching The Bachelor for the

556
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: first time this year, which is a really good program,

557
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: and like some of the cunning moves by Dave reminded

558
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 1: me of some of the women on that show. It's like,

559
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Speaker 1: I can't believe this happened. I really feel bad, sorry, fellas.

560
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: I first of all, came down and announced myself as

561
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Speaker 1: Champagne I and I I was finger wagon after I

562
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Speaker 1: did it. First of all, I didn't slink into any

563
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Speaker 1: rate and I was like coming in from work and

564
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: finding another man's pick up in your driveway. Obviously, we

565
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: we got past it all because we're all together in

566
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Speaker 1: the big old crossover episode Empty Nest Style with Richard Mulligan.

567
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Let's move on join the Bachelor. Though it's a fun

568
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Speaker 1: some lunatics these women are completely crazy. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: mean some some people with emotional problems. I mean I

570
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: don't mean like, oh, they're crazy that they think they

571
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Speaker 1: can fall in love in two weeks and find their spouse. No, no,

572
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean people need to be hospitalized. This is a

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Speaker 1: show that would discuss the West, even on normal terms.

574
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: But even if West wanted to watch it he said, Hey, Dan,

575
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: can I come over and watch it with you and Emily?

576
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't allow it because Wes is a man looking

577
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: for his wife in Los Angeles, and like half the

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00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: women on the show from l A and everyone's nuts.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that in West. Cuku Bird, who's the

580
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Speaker 1: widow who's dragging about saying, my journey has been amazing. Yes,

581
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: it's had some tragedy, but I wouldn't trade it for

582
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: You wouldn't trade having being in your twenties and having

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Speaker 1: your husband die. You wouldn't drop You wouldn't give that

584
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: one away. That's a little crazy. I think West would

585
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: make a good bachelor. Though it's a great idea, I'm

586
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: told you, I'm entirely undatable, and the whole thing that's

587
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: not true. There's something grossly old fashioned about it. That

588
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: the women they're all submissive to start with on the show,

589
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: and then they all I don't belieme it is that

590
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: they must move to you know, bumble Fu, Idaho or

591
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: whatever after the show is over, they would all go

592
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: to Tybee Island. I can't deal with the massive women. Yeah,

593
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Speaker 1: well these guys, these guys are I want to show

594
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Speaker 1: you my Tybee. All right, let's take a look. Let's

595
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Speaker 1: move forward. We'll take a look at the Free Agent

596
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Speaker 1: Classic Quarterback because, uh, the reason I decided to write

597
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Speaker 1: this yesterday is because everyone so many teams in the

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Speaker 1: NFL right now, Hank, that are that are looking for

599
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Speaker 1: a quarter But let's just go in case you're found

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Speaker 1: in your listening you think his top ten free agent

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Speaker 1: qbs that I perused yesterday, and frankly, I have a

602
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: couple of issues with it, Okay, but I want to

603
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Speaker 1: know what I think it's good to establish which teams

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Speaker 1: are actually gonna be are in the market. I'll go

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Speaker 1: right across the top of our homepage with the teams,

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Speaker 1: the Bills, the Jets, the Browns, the Texans, the Titans,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Maybe probably not the Chiefs, actually not with

608
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Speaker 1: this punch, the Bucks Redskins. You get the point there.

609
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: You know there's a there's a bunch of quarterback and

610
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Speaker 1: we let's establish as well in the draft we probably

611
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Speaker 1: think that there's there's one, maybe two quarterbacks who might

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Speaker 1: be able to start the next hand. Well, people, and

613
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Speaker 1: I don't consider myself a college expert by any stretch,

614
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: but when I tweeted out the link to this story,

615
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Brian Fisher, who is one of our College m seven writers,

616
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Speaker 1: uh wrote, you know, the college the college crop is

617
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Speaker 1: even worse than what what I wrote about here. So

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Speaker 1: that tells you a lot about it. Your hearing jamis

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Speaker 1: Winston and Mariota, two guys with bred Hundley. I I'm

620
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: not sure why I'm in the vast minority on that one.

621
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Speaker 1: I think if he had cut him loose and let

622
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Speaker 1: him do his thing, he could be effective immediately. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So you see l a Q being by the way,

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Speaker 1: what what nothing? What? Nothing? Okay? I was given a

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Speaker 1: hanksome state direction. He was leaning out. Apparently I'm not

626
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Speaker 1: in the shop. I didn't know tap It's always been videotape, man, wait,

627
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: were always on the film. I had no idea, alright,

628
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Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared for that, I don't even have product

629
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Speaker 1: in here. All right, let's move on the top ten

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on my list. And this is you know, right

631
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Speaker 1: off the bat is a bad spot and and and uh, Dave,

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Speaker 1: you can tell me where you disagree. But I have

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Speaker 1: Sanchez one, Brian Hoyer to Jake Locker three, Ryan Mallet four.

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Speaker 1: Right Mallet there, that's what I think they at five.

635
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Mallett should be higher up. Ryan Mallet

636
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: complete question mark though, that's the thing like tools alone

637
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: in size and skill set and all that. Maybe, but

638
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: the guy should He got basically two stars before he

639
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: got injured. So how can you make a case for him?

640
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: Because I already have seen what Mark Sanchez is, what

641
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is. I know what I would get out

642
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: of them. If that's good enough. It's not for the

643
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: teams that you're naming. I don't. I don't think any

644
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: of those teams vault themselves into legitimate contention by adding

645
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez. Ryan Mallett at least provides, if you are

646
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: a glass half full sword, the optimism that maybe he

647
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: will deliver the on the great athleticism, the physical gifts

648
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: he has. And I'll tell you what I think if

649
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: he is healthy last year, I think they wind up

650
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: the Texans in the postseason. That's a great situation if

651
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: they have a guy with a real whip on him,

652
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: like Ryan Mallett has Arian Foster and old Andre Johnson

653
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. The pieces are there, and obviously the great

654
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: defense if they can find. You know, Brian Hoyer and

655
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett are are wildly different characters. But if you

656
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: are confident that you'll get uh, you know, a relatively

657
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: clean game, which is to say, not turn the ball

658
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: over very much, the Texans should be very good this year.

659
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: And that's another team that maybe will be in the postseason,

660
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: ahead of the Denver Broncos, led by number eight teams.

661
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: Page of faith you're taking here, I'm glass half full.

662
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: I have a sunny disposition. Wes he went. He was

663
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: thought of so highly around the NFL that he went

664
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: for a conditional sixth round draft pick. I understand, listen,

665
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: he had. He had his troubles coming out of Arkansas.

666
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: There are character issues and all of that sort of thing,

667
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: and there has been some success with those guys, uh,

668
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: you know, becoming more mature. Somebody is going to use

669
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: a pick on Jamis Winston and make the same sort

670
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: of gamble, but with much more at risk there when

671
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: you use your first overall pick Ryan Mallett at this point,

672
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get for a bargain, just like the

673
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: Texans got him last year, but with the high end potential.

674
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: There are very few guys on the face of the

675
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: earth who have ever had a whip like Ryan Mallett

676
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: and Henry Do you have any issues with my tough five?

677
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: You know what? The reason I wanted to establish which

678
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: teams need them is because I think you named seven

679
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: or eight teams there, and let's say we do have

680
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in the draft, that two of those teams

681
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: are gonna find a quarterback through the draft and stake

682
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: the hopes on Jamis Winston or Marcus Mariota might take

683
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: on your list, which, by the way, thank you, people

684
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: have been reading it in in the tens of thousands

685
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: since I published that. You got it, buddy, I think maybe,

686
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: apart from Mallett and I, and that's only if the

687
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: glass is half full, every team who picks up one

688
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: of these guys is gonna looking for a quarterback again.

689
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: It's so true. That's you just if you stick one

690
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: of these guys and your mallet and probably including mallet

691
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: if you stick one of these guys in your offense. Yes,

692
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback for two thousand fifteen, you don't

693
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: have one for two thousand and sixteen. You're still got

694
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 1: the same issue. And if you thought that's how five

695
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: was bad, this is my sixth through ten on this list.

696
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: Christian Ponder, Colt McCoy, Matt Moore, Tavars Jackson, and Sean

697
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Hill Whoy. I snuck up there at one. You might

698
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: as well have any any of them. Maybe he belonged

699
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: there and I trusted. So that's what we're talking about.

700
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: That is what we're working with him or Jason Campbell,

701
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: and I can't take another Jason Campbell check me on there.

702
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, I added ten more guys that threw David

703
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: Spade on the list, just because you know you could

704
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: throw any at that point. T. J. Yates is behind

705
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: David Spade on the list, So it's like, you know,

706
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: we're dealing with this, and West I want to see

707
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: you on a couple of things. First of all, Dave,

708
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: you did uh. You did a video piece which I

709
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: thought was very cool where you tried to figure out

710
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: why we can't find thirty two good starting quarterbacks. And

711
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: you actually did the math and it's you know, it

712
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: makes sense. I boiled it down. I went to class

713
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: half four once again. We you know why I can

714
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: find thirty two human beings in a world of seven

715
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: billion When you really get into it, it's hard to

716
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: even find twenty guys that can do it. Well, how

717
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: can you find that video? By the way, NFL dot

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00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: Com Dan, thanks again? Could it be because we've also

719
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: found so many human beings who are really good at defense? Well,

720
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: I find it hard to imagine that. No, I think

721
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: that there are I think this generation is converting running

722
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: would be running backs into other positions. I don't necessarily

723
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: think there are a whole lot of would be qbs

724
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: playing defense right now. What I mean is, oh, human

725
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: beings are so great at playing defense that you're going

726
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: to need an exceptional quarterback. There are hundreds of people

727
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: who can play quarterback, and could guys now who can

728
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: play quarterback, and our third string could probably start in

729
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: the sixties. But because it's gotten better on defense overall

730
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: these generations, it's harder to succeed as and as an

731
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: NFL quarter and before we move on, because we are

732
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: starting to run a little short on time, West, throw

733
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: out a name that you wrote about on Monday, that

734
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: is not a free agent quarterback and is not in

735
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: the draft class, but could potentially help someone if someone

736
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: takes a different look at him. Yeah, I'd say ignore

737
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: all of these free agents and take a chance on

738
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon. I'm I've never been a huge Mike Lennon fan,

739
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: but he's put on tape some pretty good things, and

740
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: to me, he's a little bit better than Ryan Mallett.

741
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: And he won Offensive Rookie of the Month in November,

742
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: became the first rookie in NFL history to throw a

743
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: touchdown in eight straight games. He's got some good tape

744
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: out there, good arm. You can probably if the Bucks

745
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: draft Jameis winstonor and Mariota, you probably get Clennon for

746
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: a mid round draft pick. I would think, does it

747
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: scare anyone that Mike Lennon is the NFL's worst dancer,

748
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: even worse than Eli Manning? How do you know? That?

749
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Just an assumption, but I would say I actually would

750
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: say he's not. I put him in the top two

751
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: or three NFL quarterbacks who looks the least like in NFL.

752
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: That's one way to put it, if every way to

753
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: put it. You see him with the helmet off, yet

754
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't inspire confidence. He that isn't exactly the leading

755
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: man like Carson Palmer. At least he takes the helmet off.

756
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: You think like, yeah, right, we're good with that guy. Yeah,

757
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: he looks like he's ready to roll. I like the

758
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon call. And I really, to be honest, I

759
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: don't see a whole lot of difference between him and

760
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett. I mean, nine touchdowns in eighteen crew starts.

761
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: That's not bad at all. No, yeah, right, and he's

762
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: got demonstrated production, whereas Mallett does not. Um what about

763
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: though you ask about free agents, I'll bring it back

764
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: to him. What if I know you say it's impossible,

765
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: but it's not impossible that John Elway was playing politician there,

766
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: and we Peyton Manning, we revere him. We definitely want

767
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: them back. What if they decide, all right, we're gonna

768
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: go with Osweiler. It's just not a good where it's

769
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: not a great situation. But Peyton says, I want to

770
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: keep playing. Would you if you're the Jets hand zeus,

771
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: would you roll the dice on number eighteen? In that situation,

772
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: A short term deal the Houston Texans would be a

773
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: viable I think the Jets are that the Jets are

774
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: in a holding pattern anyway right now. He was interested

775
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: in going to Houston at least that was one of

776
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: the reports, was that a couple of years ago when

777
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: he was making his decision, Houston intrigued him. Maybe that

778
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: would be a landing spot for Peyton Manning. Then he

779
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: would vault the number one. You just want him at

780
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: it Denver. You want his career ending, like rooting interest

781
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: for against the man? What do I care? All Right,

782
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: we gotta move on. Finally, let's uh, let's talk about

783
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: our off season forecasts, which were rolling through team by team.

784
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: We have the a f C East completely up right now,

785
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: so let's roll through it and uh West, you wrote

786
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: about the Bills and why don't you tell us maybe

787
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of a a macro view of what's going on

788
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: with this team, what they need, what's what's coming up

789
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: for them? Well, I think one thing since we started

790
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: this podcast that we've made abundantly clear is that you

791
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: will never win in the NFL. Without a quarterback, no

792
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: matter how good your defense is. The Bills don't have

793
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They've got d J. Manuel who was benched

794
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: for Kyle Orton fort team games into his career, So

795
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: e J. Mayel is not the answer. They need a

796
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: quarterback that's definitely their top prilem. Cycles back to our

797
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: prior discussion, They're gonna get Brian Hoy. I mean, like

798
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: it's Brian Hoya zone. And then then great, you've got

799
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyle. What next? In Buffalo? You have the added

800
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: problem that you need a guy with a Damna chick

801
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: would say, a big whip to cut through the elements.

802
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna bring in a guy with

803
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: a blow average arm just to get you through a season.

804
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: So I think that's one problem. And then they've got

805
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: some free agents like Jerry Hughes, one of their best

806
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: pass rushers, and C. J. Spiller, who, for my money,

807
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: should be playing for the Jets. Dan. I think there's

808
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of connective tissue there. I could definitely see

809
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: that happening, and I could see David Harris, who's been

810
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: back one of the Jets defense, ending up in Buffalo

811
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: with Rex wildly overpaying to bring a thirty year old

812
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: linebacker in because he loves him. C J. Spiller deserves

813
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else his career has He's flashed so

814
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: many two to be an outstanding player and it never

815
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: has quite worked out. He was a top three running

816
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: back in two thousands twelve under chan Gailey and that

817
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: spread offense. So there's a lot of reasons to think

818
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: that that would make sense. Well, you know, and I've

819
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: said this many times before, the the ideal Super Bowl.

820
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: If you have no rooting interest, if you just want

821
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: deserving fans Packers v. Bills, It's hard to have any

822
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: problem with that, or for that matter, Vikings and Bills.

823
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I guess really more too long suffering fan bases comprised

824
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: of a lot of, you know, people who stand by

825
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: their team and are loyal to them. Bills fans deserve

826
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: better than this, and I would be So I'm so

827
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: anxious to say is going to be a banner year

828
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: for them because I do think Rex Ryan is one

829
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: of those guys that you're gonna get a big spike

830
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: out of. I think that the team will perform better

831
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: than it did in the previous year just for his presence.

832
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: But this quarterback thing is such a there is no

833
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: solution there. Ej Manuel ain't the solution, and whatever else

834
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: they bring in there, it just seems to me that

835
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: the ceiling for this Bill's team is is pretty low here.

836
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I even though I called him interesting before.

837
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: They should I mean, the Devents should be dominant, but

838
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: how good can they possibly be? Can they get into

839
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: double digit wins? It's hard to see with whoever the

840
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and he goes and then moving on to your

841
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: next team. Uh, the Jets, it's the same situation. The

842
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: Jets have Geno Smith, who's probably gonna be in the

843
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: mix next year, whether the Jets fans wanted to be

844
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: or not, because they they probably are gonna want to

845
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: give him another look unless they get aggressive. They have

846
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: the six pick if they believe in Mariotta or Jamis Winston.

847
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: I do not want that to happen. Uh, maybe they

848
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: bring in a quarterback high in the first round, but

849
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that Gino is going to

850
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: be the guy and they bring in maybe a veteran

851
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: to compete with him. I could easily see that happening

852
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: as well. So the quarter acquisition is the key thing

853
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: with the Jets as well, and then the biggest storyline

854
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: for me to watch. First of all, they if they

855
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: don't bring Percy Harvin back, and that's the big decision.

856
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: He's oh ten point five million, which is a lot

857
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: of money for a guy he gets always, always hurt

858
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and doesn't have a lot of great tape. Let's face it,

859
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: in terms of over a season, they except for maybe

860
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: one year and many um, they have to make a

861
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: decision to bring him back, and you have to imagine

862
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: their new g M. Mccagnet also has to think to himself, well,

863
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: he's not my guy. I inherited him. On top of it,

864
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick becomes a fourth round pick if

865
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: they hold on to him, uh this season. So I

866
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: think that's their big decision. Chris Johnson's gone, they won't

867
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: bring him back. I think C. J. Spiller will be there.

868
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: I think the Jets gonna make a hard play and

869
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: I really think and I have a lot of people

870
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: are they're calling me crazy for this. I think Drill

871
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Reeves has a fifty shot. I'm coming back to New York.

872
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: I can see it happening. If why, the Jets will

873
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: give him an offer that blows everyone else out of

874
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the water, and I think he will want to go back.

875
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: I think he liked playing in New York. It's just

876
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: the way it ended. It was always about money. He's

877
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: got his ring. Now he wants to maybe go somewhere

878
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: where he could put down his roots and finish his career.

879
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I think the Jets pay him a lot. I think

880
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls is a respected guy. I think Reeves might

881
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: see the Jets as being a place of unfinished business

882
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: that will pay him a lot of money. But on

883
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: all the people that he was loyal to and New

884
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: York they've gone though, Well, like that was his Yeah,

885
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, well maybe then Buffalo is about a spot

886
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: from I don't know. I find it hard to believe,

887
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: but the Jets are Remember when when Revas left, the

888
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: logic was from the Jets perspective, this is a shame,

889
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: but we're so far away from being a contender that

890
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: it's a luxury that we don't need to possess and

891
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: right move because what's gonna end up happening. If it

892
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: ever happened, they would give him a time track that

893
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: would be richer than the one that they Revis wanted

894
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: and caused them to trade him in the first place.

895
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: It just feels like a very Jets move to make

896
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: a hard play for Reves. We're seven and nine, but

897
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: we do have that great shutdown corner back. And I

898
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: will say, as a Jets man who has a lot

899
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: of close feelings about Reevas, I would not be upset

900
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: about it if it happened. So what do you want

901
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: them to do in the first round of the drop?

902
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: What do you think that what should they dress? I

903
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: know I'm hearing a lot of bad things about Mariota,

904
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: but I would take a shot on him. If you

905
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: over a receiver, over an offensive lineman, over a defensive back.

906
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: You know, old positions of need, you'd drow to take.

907
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: The media like potentially mediocre or the guy that saves

908
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: a franchise. We don't know that Mariota's no, I don't know,

909
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: but I but it's the shore thing. But Eric Wester

910
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: was the right pick. Derek car I said it all

911
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: last year. Derek Carr was going to be the guy

912
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: to get Let him go all the way to the

913
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: second round, think out different things. Will look if you're there,

914
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: he looks nice. You don't think he looks nice? Would he?

915
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: Would you rather have him or any of those free

916
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: agents that hand us year. I mean, he had a

917
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: better and even have a better rookie year than Sam

918
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: Branford had, and Bradford's going to be available. We'll we'll

919
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: skip over the Patriots, the Super Bowl champion. Would you

920
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: rather have Derek Carr any of those free agents that

921
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: I would rather have Derek Carr? But let's calm down

922
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: on acting like he's already a franchise quarterback. Rivas is

923
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: my biggest storyline in New England as well, Handsome Hank

924
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: uh so that that that covers the Pats. We don't

925
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: need to talk with the Pats all the time. You know,

926
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: we've talked about them enough that I would let Drel Revas.

927
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: You're staying in going for a ring every year with

928
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots? You're not. I think that's what we'll do.

929
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: Let's close out with the Dolphins. Henry, your team and well,

930
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Pattrick wrote the piece, but I would

931
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: like to know Henry what your thoughts are in about

932
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: their biggest need and the biggest business ahead of them

933
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: in this offseason outside of a new head coach, which

934
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm let's presume that's not happening. I think you gotta

935
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: wait another eleven months for that, right. I think they

936
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: they have some needs on offense. They need a playmaking receiver.

937
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace is is pretty much a one trick pony,

938
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping that they might go and get a

939
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: big receiver. Who can you know, Jervis Landry was excellent

940
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: last year. I love him. I know West as a fan,

941
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: but I think they need they need more help their

942
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: kind Heartline that the heartline is gone. I think million

943
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: heartline or Riley Cooper, they might. They might bring Heartline

944
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: back at what he's actually worth rather than what they're

945
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: paying here. Um, but I think to me, Gared Roderick,

946
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: who's one of their sort of top free agents. Not

947
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: an outstanding player, but he he sort of emerged as

948
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: a bit of a leader. The problem with that the

949
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: team is they have a massive vacuum. And this is

950
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: all Joe Filman is doing. You remember when we watched

951
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks that his first season there, he brought in

952
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: the leadership council and then if you look, you look

953
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: at who was that in that leadership council. You know,

954
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: the leaders on the team. He didn't cut them all

955
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: the next year because they stood up to him, and

956
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: and so there's not you know, it was Carlos Dansby

957
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: and Reggie Bush and I can't remember who else. But

958
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: none of those guys, None of those guys are on

959
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: the team any longer. Nito was on the leadership forgot about.

960
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: None of those guys are there anymore. And there isn't

961
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: a player like Ryan Tannehill is a is a is

962
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: a polite young man that you'd want to you know,

963
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: you want your sister to marry. But he's not. He's

964
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: not like, he doesn't have any dog in him. He's

965
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: not going to be a guy who picks the team

966
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: up and says, let's go do this. Cam Wake is

967
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: an outstanding player, but he's not. Again, he's sort of

968
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: on an island himself. He's not really that guy. Brent

969
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Grimes is a great player, but not that guy. They

970
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: don't have any leadership, and that's because Joe Filman has

971
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: chased all the leadership out of the building. Garededdrics about

972
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: the closest thing they've got to it. And you know,

973
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: I think Marky's pounce I'm sorry, Mike Pouncey for what

974
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: it's worth, but I mean he's also maybe not the

975
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: best guy in the world. Is nothing everything all wi

976
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: just Hanks set in two words body language that Ryan

977
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: Tannehill has has like I'm a very polite young man

978
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: body language. But he doesn't have like follow me, follow

979
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: me body language. A couple of things. You brought up

980
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Ryan town and I'll bring up Luren town Hill turn

981
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: me down on an interview request. I don't know if

982
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: I told you this. I was there. I watched it.

983
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: A high hat move from a spouse, said Ryan's agents

984
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: said that I shouldn't do any interviews. Okay, yeah, I'm

985
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: just trying to get you in the spotlight. Honey, I'm

986
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: the super Bowl experience guy. Well you dropped the honey on.

987
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: That was a little so all this is to say,

988
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: after the last ten minutes of conversation, the Bills are

989
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna start Mark Sanchez in, the Jets are gonna start

990
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton or somebody like that, and the Dolphins are

991
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: a hot mess, and the Patriots are gonna get the

992
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: walk into another division title. The greatest thing that has

993
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: ever happened to Tom Brady, and I I think Tom

994
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: Brady is terrific. Paid Manning obviously terrific. But the two

995
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: things those two guys have had, I don't know what

996
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: deal with the devil they both made that they get

997
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: to play in the bum divisions, that they've gotten to

998
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: play their entire careers in a couple of times the

999
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: Jets were all right, the Dolphins are all right Peyton,

1000
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: a couple of times the Jags were a little bit

1001
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: of a arrival there. Outside of that, what a cake wants.

1002
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: Both these guys have been handed for the entirety of

1003
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: their two careers. I will say this because we saw

1004
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: it with Peyton Manning. I know we we don't suspect it.

1005
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Whatever happened, but it's gonna happen. Father time undefeated Tom

1006
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Brady is gonna decline. It could happen next year or

1007
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: maybe the year after. This is not gonna go on forever,

1008
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: and everybody thinks it is. But in the meantime, the meantime,

1009
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: the three teams behind the Patriots will finish eight and eight,

1010
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: six and ten, and five and eleven. It doesn't matter

1011
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: what order it's happening in. When the division at twelve

1012
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: and four again, one final note that Mark Sessler, as

1013
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: we said, lost his voice, could not participate in the show,

1014
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: but he did give a statement that he wanted me

1015
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: to read about the Dolphins. Uh. It is titled Dolphins

1016
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: Season Revealed. This again from Mark Sessler at Mark Sessler NFL.

1017
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: Mr fancy Pants, as Dave calls him. Henry is a

1018
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: nice fellow, so it hurts to write this. He is

1019
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: tall and relatively handsome for a British individual, but his

1020
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: putrid ghost ship of a football team is headed into darkness. Wait, sorry,

1021
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: is this the same one that's Hirst? Dolphins will go

1022
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: five and eleven next season, finishing fourth in the a

1023
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: f C East, behind the revived Jets and Bills and

1024
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: a Patriots team that will go twelve and four. Owner

1025
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross rewards Joe Fieldman with a new five year

1026
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: mega pact, while Henry in Culver City has made redundant

1027
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: on the heels of a disturbing in house controversy involving Tinder,

1028
00:50:54,040 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and improper use of inter office mail. Oh

1029
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: that is not good. None of that. Do you got?

1030
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: You know? We call on when when when we're doing

1031
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: out of the same space. Uh the d d f

1032
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: P we refer to it as Studio sixty six maximum

1033
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: strikes well. Done. When Rosenthal isn't in here. Maybe you

1034
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: should call this studio the Factory of sadness because your

1035
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: team's the Jets, the Browns, West has the Bengals that

1036
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: are so loathsome he had to abandon them a number

1037
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: of years ago. This really is a sorry lot. It's

1038
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: perfect when handsome comes in and can start to talking

1039
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: dolphin like to that button issues. Yeah, I think that

1040
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: part that what makes our podcast a little plucky. You

1041
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: know we have we're kind of underdogs, unlike the Steelers

1042
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: with the one for the thumb, yeah and all that malarkey.

1043
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: I was born into greatness. So you do you have

1044
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: any thoughts centering before we go on Mark's statement? I

1045
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: don't know why Mark would decided to pick on me

1046
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: today when his team is, I mean, as sorry as

1047
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are. They have a quarterback and you know,

1048
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: a guy who they're making no, definitely a quarterback who

1049
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: they're going to be keeping this year. At least. The

1050
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: Browns are looking at maybe drafting Marcus Mariota so they

1051
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: can have two quarterbacks for two. The idea that the

1052
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: Jets and Browns are I mean, shouldn't that be the

1053
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: red flag? Hey? Who else is looking at Marcus Fariotta.

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Speaker 1: Oh that team. Oh, and then we can't do it.

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Speaker 1: It's us in the Browns. Oh, I mean it's us

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Speaker 1: on the Jets. Well, then we're out on this. About

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Speaker 1: that statement is every Sunday during the season, I come

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Speaker 1: to work at about five thirty am. And Mark Sesser

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Speaker 1: and I normally on a Sunday morning, while you guys

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Speaker 1: are all asleep and you know, dreaming of victories for

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Speaker 1: your team, sit here and sitting downstairs, and we talk

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom about, you know, how sad it is

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Speaker 1: to be a fan of our teams, and how today

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Speaker 1: is going to be a little tragic. But just hold

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Speaker 1: your own and I'll give him a pat on the

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Speaker 1: back and I'll say Mark, good luck today. I hope,

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Speaker 1: I hope it all works out okay. And then to

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Speaker 1: throw that at me and they call you real it

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Speaker 1: to that was show offie. I'd also like to say

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Speaker 1: that voice it's gonna what you guys, what your conversation

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Speaker 1: is like, is what it's gonna be like for Broncos

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Speaker 1: fans to be like in West now has made himself

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Speaker 1: a Broncos fan. And at year's end, I'll take a

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Speaker 1: cant and we had we had to go back down.

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Speaker 1: Can'ther's pastrami? I'm already salivating. I'm so hungry. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's that wraps part one of our Big Emptins crossover episode.

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Speaker 1: Dave dama Check, thank you very much for joining us. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I talk always a treat. We'd love when you talk,

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Speaker 1: so to me the best. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. You are legitimately handsome. T d.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your help so he's like Chris Reeve

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Speaker 1: in Super May two. We continue on now to part

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Speaker 1: two of the crossover with the Dave Damage Football Program.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening.