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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us as we discuss the intersection of faith, culture,

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Speaker 1: and everyday life. As always a word of hope and

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Speaker 1: encouragement for you and those you love, especially in these

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Speaker 1: challenging times. I'll doctor Tim Clinton, I'll be your host

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Speaker 1: our special guest joining us this week. He's lead pastor

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Speaker 1: of Pathways Church in Mobile, Alabama. Pastor Travis Johnson is

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Speaker 1: Heidie Saint John is back. He's the President of American

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Speaker 1: Values and Senior vice President of Public Policy for the

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Speaker 1: doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary Bauer's with us. He's

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Speaker 1: a licensed professional counselor, family trauma specialist, loneliness and social

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Speaker 2: Thank you for watching.

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Speaker 1: Hey, It's Palm Sunday and it marks the beginning of

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Speaker 1: Holy Week for more than two billion people around the

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Speaker 1: world who are going to be commemorating and celebrating the

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Speaker 1: death bury on resurrection of Jesus. You know, on Palm

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Speaker 1: Sunday we recall the fulfillment of Prophet Zachariah saying that

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Speaker 1: the Messiah would enter Jerusalem riding on a cult, greeted

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Speaker 1: by people waving palm branches shouting Hosannah today has many

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Speaker 1: reflect on Jesus and palm Sunday. They have palms that

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Speaker 1: are sometimes woven into crosses. That's because the crowd quickly

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Speaker 1: shifted from Hosannah to crucify him. What did they miss?

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Speaker 1: They missed that he was coming to pay our sin

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Speaker 1: debt in full and to be crucified, to overcome death

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Speaker 1: so that we could have a relationship with God. Jesus

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Speaker 1: said these very words in John eleven, verse thirty five.

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Speaker 1: In the Bible, I am the resurrection of life. Whoever

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Speaker 1: believes in me we die, yet shally live. He brought

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Speaker 1: light into our darkness. It's also been a wild week

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Speaker 1: in American around the world. Negotiations with Iran is a

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Speaker 1: deal imminent. President Trump reported, we're in negotiations right now.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this. They'd like to make a deal,

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Speaker 1: he went on to say, and who wouldn't if you

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Speaker 1: were there. Look, their navy's gone, air force is gone,

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Speaker 1: communications are gone. Pretty much everything they.

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Speaker 3: Have is gone.

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Speaker 1: Hey, one thing we can all do is pray for

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Speaker 1: a peaceful and complete resolution protecting girls sports still in

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Speaker 1: the news, Dems are all in against doing so. They

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Speaker 1: continue to want to force our daughters to compete against

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Speaker 1: boys in girls' sports. The American people overwhelmingly oppose it.

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Speaker 1: The Senate voted this week on legislation to protect girls'

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Speaker 1: sports from cheating boys who claim to be girls. Every

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Speaker 1: Republican senator present voted for the bill. Every Democrat president

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Speaker 1: voted against the bill. Makes no sense. Democrats in the

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Speaker 1: United States Senate will not accept that women's sports are

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Speaker 1: for normal biological women, the whole point of sports having

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Speaker 1: men's and women's sports. Not only would they force our

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Speaker 1: daughters and granddaughters to compete against bigger and stronger boys,

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Speaker 1: they'd also I'd like to see them invade their privacy

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Speaker 1: by forcing them to share locker rooms with boys. It's

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Speaker 1: just unreal to me. The Democrats Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 1: shutdown strategy pretty clear, block paychecks for TSA workers, force

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Speaker 1: Americans to wait in lines at airports all over the country.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's seeing the footage of that, while letting criminal illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens skip the line and enter the country. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: Republicans have to keep fighting this mess, the senseless chaos,

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Speaker 1: and protect the American people. Hundreds of TSA officers have

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Speaker 1: quit amid this crazy shutdown. It's far past time that

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Speaker 1: DEM's fund the dhas and the pain for hard working

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Speaker 1: dhs and TSA employees. Hey, here's a great verse to

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Speaker 1: hold on too, from the Bible this week, this Palm Sunday,

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Speaker 1: John twelve, verse thirteen. So they took branches of palm trees.

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Speaker 1: They went out to meet him, crying out, Osannah, blessed

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Speaker 1: is he who comes in the name of the Lord,

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Speaker 1: even the King of Israel. Hey, all this and more

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Speaker 1: on this edition of Sunday. They rode forward. Let's pray

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Speaker 1: and we'll get started. God be with us blesus our time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your great love to us. Lord, as

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Speaker 1: we enter into Holy Week, I pray that we would

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Speaker 1: put a lot of our heart and attention on you

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Speaker 1: and reflect on the goodness and grace that flows from

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Speaker 1: your heart, love the mercy toward us. Pray again for

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Speaker 1: our broadcast here, use it for your glory in Jesus' name. Amen,

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Speaker 1: let's get started.

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Speaker 2: Of your life.

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Speaker 1: Joyce. Now is Travis Johnson. He's the lead pastor of

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Speaker 1: Pathway Church in Mobile, Alabama. He's also CEO of People

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Speaker 1: for Karen Learning, founder of By a Tree Change of Life.

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Speaker 1: He's a strong and faithful member by the Way of

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Speaker 1: the National Faith Advisory Board. Pastor Travis, welcome back, Thank

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Doctor Clinton. Always great to be

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 1: As we get started. Here we are we're moving into well,

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Speaker 1: it's Palm Sunday, We're moving into Holy Week. It's a

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Speaker 1: Some two billion people are going to be commemorating and

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Speaker 1: celebrating the birth of Christ. I'm the death, burial, resurrection

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Speaker 1: of Jesus. Travis, talk to us about what you do

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Speaker 1: as a family maybe and as a church family. They're

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Speaker 1: at Pathway Church in preparation.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Well, you know, Easter is a super Bowl

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Speaker 3: Sunday for the church. There's so many people. This is

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Speaker 3: such a sacred day that in people's minds, if there's

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Speaker 3: on Easter. We prepare. It's really it's like as Jesus

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Speaker 3: and so we want to do that, and of course

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Speaker 3: we raise awareness and we point to the crucifixion, the burial,

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Speaker 3: the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Of course, we have good

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Speaker 3: Friday services and the Easter egg hunts, and I don't

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Speaker 3: even know how many services we have at our campus,

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Speaker 3: but all I know it is the biggest thing of

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Speaker 3: this moment. If there had been no crucifixion, there would

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Speaker 3: be no resurrection. If there had been no resurrection, there'd

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Speaker 3: be no salvation from sin. This isn't just a group

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Speaker 3: of people that get together weekly because we're bored and

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Speaker 3: we need friendship. This is God, who became flesh and

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Speaker 3: wisdom and stature. According to Luke two fifty two, he

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Speaker 3: his parents, turned the water into wine, raised it out

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Speaker 3: open to the blinded eyes. He was beaten, put on trial, crucified, buried, resurrected.

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Speaker 3: This is Easter. It's the good news that Jesus came

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Speaker 3: to save mankind, redeem us by his sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I think of Christianity, you go back

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Speaker 1: the life changing power of Jesus. Palm Sunday, they were

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Speaker 1: singing in Hosanna, Hosanna, areas King of the Jews, by

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Speaker 1: the way of Israel, and then almost in an instant,

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Speaker 1: turned to crucify him. And Travis, when you just look

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Speaker 1: most well virtually every conflict. It's really light and darkness

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Speaker 1: as we again celebrate the goodness and grace of God,

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Speaker 3: It's well, the darker the night, the brighter the lights,

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Speaker 3: and so there is no moment that's greater than God's strength.

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Speaker 3: In fact, think about this, that the same Holy Spirit

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Speaker 3: that resurrected Jesus from the dead is the same Holy

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Speaker 3: Spirit that's working in twenty twenty six. I've heard some

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Speaker 3: None of this is bigger than God's good work and

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Speaker 3: in us. And I'm thankful that the Holy Spirit leads

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Speaker 3: us and guides us. And this is what's really wonderful

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Speaker 3: is Christians. There's people all around us that are groping

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Speaker 3: men would grope around in darkness and some would find Christ.

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Speaker 3: And the way they find him is through God working

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Speaker 3: in us. And so that's a real privilege to be

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Speaker 3: in this moment and share God's good news through Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, Travis, in the middle of all this, you

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Speaker 1: made a trip over to Israel with a thousand pastors,

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Speaker 1: really spurred some efforts. I saw where Liberty University. I

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Speaker 1: new center for Israel. It's amazing there on campus, which

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Speaker 1: is a powerful statement. But where do you see Where

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Speaker 1: do you see this going, pastor Travis? This is important

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Speaker 3: You know. One, I think that's why every parent that

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Speaker 3: great pushback, some really great pushback against this anti Semitic

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Speaker 3: out against anti semitism, against racism, against anti freedom movements.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of this agenda is not coming

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Speaker 3: wonderful thing to see when people stand and are clear.

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Speaker 1: Try us want to wrap up this way. You've come

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Speaker 1: up with a new book called Unembarrassed for Jesus. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a very timely book, strong book. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a word to the church for such a time

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Speaker 1: as this. You are no stranger to adversity. Challenge. You

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Speaker 1: there in the state. But talk to us about the

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Speaker 1: heart of this message and what you're trying to get

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Speaker 3: Well, absolutely unembarrassed to Jesus. We show an arc of

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Speaker 3: Peter's story deconstruction, as he follows Jesus from a distance,

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Speaker 3: what would happen when he needed to stand and be counted.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't follow from a distance. It was your faith

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Speaker 3: on the day of Pentecostal Bible said he stood and

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Speaker 3: So what we find out, if you want to change

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Speaker 1: for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary, welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining.

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Speaker 6: Me, My pleasure. Tim, always great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Good gain.

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Speaker 1: I want to open up with this whole Save Act

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Speaker 1: It seems like a mess. What's going to happen? And

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Speaker 1: Where's this thing going to land?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, Tim, First of all, I hope the

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Speaker 6: American public is noticing that the Democrat Party unanimously does

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Speaker 6: not want to make sure that only American citizens are voting.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just think that says a lot about

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Speaker 6: the condition of that party. Now, let's go to the

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Speaker 6: other party, the party that I've made my life in

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Speaker 6: over the years. What is wrong with Republicans?

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Speaker 1: Why can't they get something done? Gary?

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, you know it's that old soul right

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Speaker 6: two party nation, the stupid Party and the evil Party.

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Speaker 6: Guess which one the Republicans are. I know it's hard,

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Speaker 6: and there's this, you know, sixty vote requirement to cut

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Speaker 6: off a filibuster. But if you have a will, you

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Speaker 6: can deal with those things. There's talk about putting this

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Speaker 6: save ac in a reconciliation bill.

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Speaker 5: And what did.

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Speaker 6: Senator Doom do when he heard about this idea? He said, well,

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Speaker 6: we have to ask the Senate parliamentarian and if he

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Speaker 6: thinks it's not allowed in well, we traditionally have always

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Speaker 6: that does not understand what time it is. Jim, I

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Speaker 6: know we're hanging here trying to save our country. If

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Speaker 6: where we've got voter fraud and so forth. A Senator

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Speaker 6: Thoomb and the rest of that party will never get

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Speaker 6: back into power again.

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Speaker 1: I saw where the President Gary went after Thoon and

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Speaker 1: just said, get something done. This is ridiculous, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying at the end of the day. So

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Speaker 1: also this week where Mark Meadows came out and said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: if you don't get it done, the dams are going

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Speaker 1: to take control. Period. You're just going to hand the

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Speaker 1: reins back over. To the insanity of all this craziness

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing going this political game stuff that we

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Speaker 1: constantly are seeing with the Department of Homeland Security TSA

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff, to everything else, weaponization systems of government.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like it's all, hey, next thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll be trying to impeach the president. Blah blah blah, Gary.

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Speaker 1: Midterms are serious. This stuff's coming up. Is the America public?

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Speaker 1: I mean, are they game on or where are we at?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Look, it's complicated. Obviously, it's a big country. People

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Speaker 6: have a lot of different views. But we're fighting an

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Speaker 6: historical trend. That's a problem. The party in the White

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Speaker 6: House tends to lose seats in the midterm elections, and

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Speaker 6: we don't have any seats to lose, no, particularly in

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Speaker 6: the House of Representatives. There's also I don't understand it.

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Speaker 6: I must admit I could act like I do, but

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Speaker 6: I don't. There's an enthusiasm gap the left, which is

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Speaker 6: against every normal thing that most Americans believe in. They're

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Speaker 6: enthusiastic about the upcoming election, and our side. Americans that

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Speaker 6: did they already forget what the Biden Harris years were like.

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Speaker 6: Their enthusiasm level is not nearly as high. I just

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Speaker 6: want to remind people Tim, if Kamala Harris and Tim

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Speaker 6: Walls had won on the border would be open, we

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Speaker 6: wouldn't be kicking out any illegal aliens, and a RAM

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Speaker 6: would have a nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to go back to that? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw too that transgender ideology that continues to be

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Speaker 1: they voted party line, every one of them. Straight up.

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Speaker 1: They want boys men in women's sports, and want men somehow,

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Speaker 1: you know, dancing around in you know, the locker rooms

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Speaker 1: of our daughters and granddaughters. Gary. I mean, people just like,

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Speaker 1: you're right, what's the matter. I mean, we've been fighting.

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Speaker 1: Eighty percent of Americans say they don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yet nevertheless, here they go, and it's like nobody cares.

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Speaker 6: Statistically, you know, the Democrat Party continues to do much

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Speaker 6: much better, I mean, incredibly better among women voters than

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Speaker 6: men voters. Low. I mean, why would any American woman,

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Speaker 6: I don't care if you're progressive, conservative, moderate or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Do you really want men in dresses to walk into

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Speaker 6: shower after you leave the spall, or the exercise room

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Speaker 6: or so for more importantly, do you want your daughters

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Speaker 6: to have to worry about that? There was just a

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, I don't you know there's no way adjectives anymore.

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Speaker 6: The Democrat Party is at war. Not only would the

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Speaker 6: Constitution of war with the natural law. Of course, they're

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Speaker 6: a war with the Bible. You know, He created us

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Speaker 6: male and female. This stuff is so insane. I don't

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Speaker 6: know how they pull more than thirty percent on who

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Speaker 6: people are going to vote for on election.

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Speaker 1: Gary, All this is going on in the midst of

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Speaker 1: a transition this weekend into Holy Week. It's Palm Sunday,

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Speaker 1: pretty meaningful for people of faith. I think what some

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Speaker 1: two billion people around the world are going to begin

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Speaker 1: commemorating and celebrating the birth, Hey, the death, bury on

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Speaker 1: resurrection of Jesus. Gary, just some reflections on your thoughts

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Speaker 1: about faith, the importance of really getting reflected this week

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Speaker 1: and pressing into the heart of God. It seems again

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Speaker 1: that faith is back in America in a special way.

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Speaker 6: I hope it is. I hope and pray it is timed.

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Speaker 6: America was built uniquely as a nation that believed that

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Speaker 6: liberty did not come from these jokers in Washington, d c.

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Speaker 6: But that our liberty came from God, the creator of

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Speaker 6: everything that is the He is the origin of our liberty.

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Speaker 6: We're made in his image in a way that's metaphysical

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Speaker 6: and we can't really explain in any normal way. But

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Speaker 6: it means that because He created us, and that we

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Speaker 6: and worth, and that no bureaucrat, no government can take

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Speaker 6: that away from us. And of course, his son, our savior,

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Speaker 6: Jesus Christ, paid the ultimate price on the cross, and

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Speaker 6: so this is a time to reflect on that. It's

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Speaker 6: what's happening in Washington, d C. But we can't while

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Speaker 6: we do that, forget the most important thing about who

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Speaker 6: are followers of Christ, and America needs to turn back

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Speaker 6: to Him. America is not going to be great and

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Speaker 6: less America is Godly again.

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Speaker 1: Gary Barre always great to have you. Happy Easter Week,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Say hello to Carol for me and.

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Speaker 6: The same to you Tim coming up next.

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Speaker 1: He is a licensed professional counselor, family trauma specialist, loneliness

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Speaker 1: and social isolation expert. Doctor Mark Mayfield is with us

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Speaker 1: Johnny's now is doctor Mark Mayfield. He's a licensed professional

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Speaker 1: counselor and founder and former CEO of Mayfield Counseling Centers.

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Speaker 1: Currently serves as Director of Practice and Ministry Development for

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Speaker 1: the American Association of Christian Counselors, as well as Director

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Speaker 1: expert on at risk children, families, couples facing loneliness and isolation. Mark,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Tim, Mark.

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Speaker 1: I want to stay with the whole issue of the

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Speaker 1: mental health crisis disaster that we have, especially related to

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Speaker 1: our kids. Continuing to see all kinds of reports come out. Mark,

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Speaker 1: We've got soaring rates of anxiety, depression, even suicide again

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Speaker 1: amongst our children in particular, it's beyond it's beyond sobering. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Do you see any any any relief coming? Do you

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Speaker 1: see any good news on the horizon here?

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Speaker 7: Well, yes, I do, and I think it's in our

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Speaker 7: bucking the trend of smartphones and social media accounts. We

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Speaker 7: know Barna even shows that this generation is coming back

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Speaker 7: to church in a lot of a lot of stronger

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Speaker 7: ways than past generation. So there's a desire for truth,

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Speaker 7: there's a desire for healing, and so I think in

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Speaker 7: the next four or five years we're going to see

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Speaker 7: some trends shifting, hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Mark. I saw this week where a jewelry in New

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Speaker 1: Mexico hit Meta with a big verdict. I brought the

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Speaker 1: hammer down three hundred and seventy five million dollars whatever.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's probably a lot that continues to go on

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Speaker 1: and relate to the court case, but nevertheless, things are

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Speaker 1: starting to come kind of unravel when it comes to

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Speaker 1: social media and our kids. Everybody gets the fact that

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Speaker 1: mental health is just blowing up and it's directly tied

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Speaker 1: to that world, that space with especially our girls. Mark

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Speaker 1: some of your reflections on social media and more in

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Speaker 1: our kids and what parents should be thinking and.

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Speaker 7: Doing, well, it's we don't have a conversation with our

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Speaker 7: kids and we just say, hey, you know, everybody's doing it,

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Speaker 7: so good luck. Here's a phone, here's access to it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: It's creating almost a social contagion of just getting lost

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Speaker 7: in it. And I always tell parents when I'm working

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Speaker 7: with them in the counseling realm or doing some trainings,

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Speaker 7: this has to be done relationally. They don't have the

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Speaker 7: brain structure yet that has developed enough to think through

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Speaker 7: consequence and reaction. If I'm spending twelve hours a day

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Speaker 7: on the device and I'm in these algorithms, that's not

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Speaker 7: good for me. They don't think about that. They just

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Speaker 7: get lost in it.

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Speaker 1: And I think people maybe they didn't hear what you

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Speaker 1: just said, up to twelve hours a day. It's insanity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Zach and I my son often talked about the ps

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Speaker 1: related to kids phones and thinking about again, how much

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Speaker 1: time is being spent on the phone or in front

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Speaker 1: of a screen porn because they've got access to it,

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Speaker 1: and it's just unbelievable how it's changing and rewiring everything

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Speaker 1: about our identity and more mark pressure. A lot of

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Speaker 1: this is comparison related stuff, especially for girls. They get

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Speaker 1: up there and they start just getting lost in all

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Speaker 1: of it and what it does. It just takes away joy.

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Speaker 1: I think it just robs people of connection and just

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Speaker 1: general joy in life. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to encourage parents that probably about three

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Speaker 7: or four years ago, there was research that came out

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Speaker 7: that said surveyed kids and they said that the parent,

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Speaker 7: their parents still had a strong voice, in a strong

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Speaker 7: influence over their kids. The kids wanted their parents to

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Speaker 7: speak into these kinds of things. So dads and moms, listen,

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Speaker 7: you still have influence and you still have a powerful

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Speaker 7: voice over your kids. And you might think that you've

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Speaker 7: lost that because of what you're seeing right, this despair,

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Speaker 7: this getting lost in social media and stuff. They crave

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Speaker 7: that they crave to hear truth and to hear perspective

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Speaker 7: and to hear love from you. And I think that's

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Speaker 7: one of the biggest things that we can do to

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Speaker 7: combat some of these things is speak the truth in

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Speaker 7: love and louder than the voice of the world.

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Speaker 1: I know in parenting, the whole world is shifted its dialogue.

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Speaker 1: It's conversation around the importance of relationship. That you've got

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Speaker 1: to have that connection with your kids. And it doesn't

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Speaker 1: come with just quote, dropping in on your twelve year

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Speaker 1: old and trying to start a conversation that get touched.

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Speaker 1: Time and effort, Mark a lot of oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: maybe we call it four time, getting into their space,

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Speaker 1: into their world, and enjoying their world with them a

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Speaker 1: little bit because you'll learn then what they really like,

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Speaker 1: what matters to them. It creates open doors or pathways

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Speaker 1: of communication that you probably aren't having. And Mark. This

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Speaker 1: relationship piece even determines how effective we are in our

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Speaker 1: discipline strategies and things like that. Kids need structure. People

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Speaker 1: to understand how important structure is to a child.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, it's setting up that God designed our brains

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Speaker 7: to be holistic, but they're not. They don't come out

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Speaker 7: that way, right. They have to be developed through intentional

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Speaker 7: relationship and structure, and a lot of these kids are

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Speaker 7: left up to their own devices. They don't get that

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Speaker 7: privilege of creating a holistic brain, the emotional brain and

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Speaker 7: the thinking brain combined to have these safety measures in

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Speaker 7: place so that they can live a thriving and functional life.

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Speaker 1: Mark. Every time I talk about relationship in kids, it

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Speaker 1: reminds me of the issue of loneliness. That kids are lonely.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking like really lonely. You would think, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: they're on their phone constantly, Mark Intuity, doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: they're lonely, but man, they are so lonely. Talk to

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Speaker 1: us about some of the research and work you've done

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Speaker 1: in that area with kids.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so we're noticing that that loneliness is such a

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Speaker 7: subversive undertone that we need to pay attention to a

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Speaker 7: lot of families that I've worked with will say I

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Speaker 7: didn't see this. I wasn't paying attention. And I try

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Speaker 7: to bring them back to the attachment literature and research

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Speaker 7: that shows, like you said, the floor time piece, they've

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Speaker 7: got to be in their kids worlds. They've got to

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Speaker 7: be looking at them, getting off their devices, and so

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Speaker 7: I tell parents that that loneliness is going to be

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Speaker 7: a given because of the systems that we've set up,

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Speaker 7: and we can combat that through driving together, going for walks,

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Speaker 7: throwing the ball, being out in playing games, putting puzzles together,

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Speaker 7: and always tell them to create a family culture of

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Speaker 7: relational connectedness that allows you the opportunity to step in.

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Speaker 7: Loneliness is going to lead to things that we don't like,

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Speaker 7: and that's the anxiety of the depression. But and I

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Speaker 7: don't do this to scare people, but to be a

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Speaker 7: very aware. It's still suicide is the number two leading

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Speaker 7: cause of death amongst our kids twelve to twelve to

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Speaker 7: twenty two, and a lot of that can be mitigated

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Speaker 7: by just going, hey, know what I see you. I

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Speaker 7: see that you're struggling. I see that you're wrestling with

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Speaker 7: some things that don't make sense to you right now.

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Speaker 7: And hey, I'm not going anywhere. I'm here to listen.

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Speaker 1: Mark, I want to close this way. You and I

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Speaker 1: have had many conversations about the importance of family and

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Speaker 1: getting back to the family. At the same time, we

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Speaker 1: talk about connectivity not just in the family, but also

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Speaker 1: in our church community. Our faith community. You've written a

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Speaker 1: new book about the mental Health Handbook for ministry. Mark

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Speaker 1: one or two key points that really help anchor that

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Speaker 1: book and why it's important for everybody to understand the

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Speaker 1: role of the church.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know it just as well as I do.

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Speaker 7: That there is a lot of bad mental health information

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Speaker 7: out there, and our desire this is a collaborative effort

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Speaker 7: with a bunch of different authors from AACC and Colorado

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Speaker 7: Christian University, and the idea was to create a trusted

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Speaker 7: go to resource for churches where they didn't have to

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Speaker 7: go search Google or WebMD or something like that to

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Speaker 7: get bad advice, to get godly christ centered biblical advice

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Speaker 7: on mental health, and a kind of a go to

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Speaker 7: reference piece so that they could do their ministry well.

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Speaker 7: I think the churches and we know this. You and

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Speaker 7: I talk about this all the time. The church is

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Speaker 7: the catalyst, the point, a tip of the spear for

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Speaker 7: the mental health revolution that I think could be just

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Speaker 7: a great way of bringing people to Christ. And this

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Speaker 7: is something we wanted to do. Just make it simple,

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Speaker 7: make it accessible for people.

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Speaker 1: Mark. At the end of the day, we can change

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Speaker 1: just mental health epidemic prices, just one kid, one family

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Speaker 1: or one church. Community of time we get press in

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Speaker 1: and get rewired, reconnected. Man, it's amazing what God can do.

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Speaker 1: Last spot from you to each of us.

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Speaker 7: I think, don't be afraid to step in the fray,

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Speaker 7: go against the culture to say, hey, my family needs

787
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Speaker 7: to be different, my church needs to be different. We're

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Speaker 7: going to do things differently and be able to stand

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Speaker 7: up for that. Create a mental health culture in your home,

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Speaker 7: a culture around tech and your home. Say no to things,

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Speaker 7: create space for your kids to be kids. It's not

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Speaker 7: going to return void, I promise you, it's going to

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Speaker 7: produce some amazing benefits for the long term.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Mark Mayfield. Always great to have you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining me, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Do people ever come to you asking for help? Maybe hope?

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Speaker 1: How about prayer? Do you ever wish you understood the

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Speaker 1: issues better that people are wrestling with, or how to

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Speaker 1: they are, but God's in control. I know that, and

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Speaker 1: he's at work. I hope you're pressing close to Him

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Speaker 1: and his Sorry. Know that God loves you and wants

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Speaker 1: to be in your life. Our hope, our strength comes

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Speaker 1: from the Lord. Here's a great person again from the Bible,

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Speaker 1: to hold on to this palm Sunday as we enter

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Speaker 1: Holy week, John twelve, verse thirteen. So they took branches

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Speaker 1: Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord,

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Speaker 1: even the King of Israel. Hope you know that you

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Speaker 1: can look to God for wisdom and direction in your

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Speaker 1: everyday life. Let me say this, I've learned as a

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Speaker 1: professional counselor that it's normal to have concern, maybe some

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Speaker 1: fear of worry, especially when things aren't the way they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be. But I also have learned too that

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Speaker 1: if you aren't careful, it can begin to consume you,

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Speaker 1: It can get so dark for some that they feel

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Speaker 1: like life would be better off without doubt. I say

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Speaker 1: this every week. You don't have to live like that.

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Speaker 1: Simply taking a step, reaching out for hope for help.

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Speaker 1: It's often the gateway to a new day or a

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Speaker 1: are wonderful counsels and pastors who care can help you

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Speaker 1: There are also a lot of amazing resources available now.

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