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Speaker 2: Let's just keep it real straight. Sh eye will no chase.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for those who really believe in the American process,

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Speaker 3: So as you guys may know, I have some folks

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Speaker 3: you know, there's been a text allegedly, let me say

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Speaker 3: can pay to get positive comments made a million services

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Speaker 3: When there's an organizing campaign, which I think is great.

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Speaker 3: And this is how we know. I'm just giving you

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Speaker 3: and nine, and so this has always been my style

436
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Speaker 3: of interviewing. It's always been my style to call things out.

437
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 3: I've always taken heat from Democrats and conservatives when I

438
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Speaker 3: hurt their feelings as well, and so Sonny has always

439
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: been a conservative. I know plenty of conservatives guys, So

440
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with, Oh, you don't like conservatives.

441
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Speaker 3: I sat on a talk radio program in Orlando for

442
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Speaker 3: years with he doesn't like to call himself conservative, but

443
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: he leans to the right as well. So there's never

444
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Speaker 3: been a problem with conservatives. What the problem is though,

445
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: I called out this grifting campaign, and if you are

446
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Speaker 3: a true conservative, like Sonny Johnson talks about all the time,

447
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: you should be supporting people that are actually true conservatives.

448
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Speaker 3: So I want to ask you, Sonny, what is it.

449
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Speaker 3: You also challenged mister Ramaswami to a debate as well.

450
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Speaker 3: Can you explain that and why conservatives don't want to

451
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Speaker 3: have conversations with you?

452
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Speaker 2: Oh?

453
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Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't challenge him. He went out and

454
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Speaker 5: he was talking shit about black people. So as soon

455
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Speaker 5: as he started fixing his lips and start talking about us,

456
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Speaker 5: I thought that I needed to be talking about him

457
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 5: as well, you know what's good for the goose. So

458
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Speaker 5: when I started calling him out and checking him on

459
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Speaker 5: his bullshit, he came and said, oh, I'm open to debate,

460
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: I'm open to conversations. I'll have this conversation with you, Sonny. Okay, cool,

461
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: I'm down, let's go. So somebody got in his ear

462
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Speaker 5: from his campaign or in his network that told him

463
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Speaker 5: that that was a bad fucking idea and that and

464
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Speaker 5: that interview didn't come to pass. So I will say,

465
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Speaker 5: for one thing, he got a couple smart people around

466
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Speaker 5: him because they made sure of protect his ass from

467
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Speaker 5: what I I was going to do to them. And

468
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 5: but secondly, it shows you again that everything he runs on,

469
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Speaker 5: when it comes time to put the pedal to the

470
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Speaker 5: floor of the shit that he's saying, then you see

471
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Speaker 5: him act a different way. So he's all open for debate,

472
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 5: he's all open for these conversations, but he wants to

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Speaker 5: have these conversations with people as far on the left

474
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Speaker 5: as he possibly can because it's easy to have those

475
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Speaker 5: conversations because they won't they won't have nuance. Like you said,

476
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Speaker 5: you can shape, you can direct, you can make it

477
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: about race, you can make it about class, you can

478
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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You can decide how to shape that argument.

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Speaker 5: But when you are dealing with another conservative that is

481
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Speaker 5: going to question and nuanced your conservatism, that's when they

482
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Speaker 5: get smart and say, no, you don't want that. No

483
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Speaker 5: they don't, they don't want that conversation. And that's where

484
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Speaker 5: that's what the majority of all of them, where all

485
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Speaker 5: of them stand because if you, hey are real conservative,

486
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: and put them up against these people, these people will

487
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Speaker 5: be exposed for the frauds that they are.

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Speaker 4: And this is why they run from conversations.

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Speaker 2: With people like me.

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Speaker 5: And I would say people like in this room right now,

491
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Speaker 5: like Denise as well. Those people that know historical context

492
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Speaker 5: and no policy, that have a connection with the black community,

493
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Speaker 5: that understand our culture, that understand our faith, that is

494
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Speaker 5: not trying to run away from black people, right those

495
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Speaker 5: are the people they don't want to fuck with because

496
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Speaker 5: once you bee us, once we get to going it,

497
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Speaker 5: that everything they are, all their falsities, all their hypocrisy,

498
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Speaker 5: all of that shit will be shown for what it is.

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Speaker 3: And that is why they run from us. Absolutely. And

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Speaker 3: let me say this, I am very well aware. Let's

501
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Speaker 3: just go ahead and put it on the table. When

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Speaker 3: he came to the breakfast club, his expectation was not

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Speaker 3: to see me on the monitor. Just so you guys know, Joey,

504
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: what is joey with Joey? Why do you keep leaving?

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Speaker 3: You keep popping in and coming out and leaving. Surely

506
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Speaker 3: you're not being a snowflake, you had so much to

507
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Speaker 3: say on Twitter. Make stay in, buddy, pull yourself about

508
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Speaker 3: the bootstraps and and and listen to the conversation. They

509
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: weren't expecting to see me as well, because the show

510
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: is actually DJ MB and Charlemagne, so let's just be real.

511
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Speaker 3: His plan was, I'm just gonna go down to this

512
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Speaker 3: little hip hop, little black negro show and I'll just

513
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 3: you know, pop in and say, well, you know, it's

514
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Speaker 3: smell and smile and I'm in amazing little's broken down

515
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Speaker 3: play by play. I'll just come in and talk over

516
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Speaker 3: their heads and you know, talk a little bit about

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Speaker 3: how I want to change the country and how we.

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Speaker 2: Need to all your night and dah dah, dah dah.

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Speaker 3: It was supposed to be in talk down, talk to

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Speaker 3: and leave until I popped in and through a whole

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Speaker 3: through the game, all the way off because he had

522
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Speaker 3: no idea that I would be there, because they don't

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Speaker 3: market me as a part of that show, and certainly

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Speaker 3: not a part of that the interview. I'm really there

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Speaker 3: to do the front page news. So I threw it off,

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Speaker 3: and when he came in and said, oh, okay, hello,

527
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: it was all over space. It also was all over space.

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Speaker 3: How shook he was at the end of the interview. See, y'all, guys,

529
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Speaker 3: you didn't see that part. How upset he was at

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Speaker 3: the end of the interview, so he wasn't expecting me

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Speaker 3: to be there. He was coming in, like Sonny said,

532
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Speaker 3: to what he presumed was probably liberal or left even

533
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: though you guys got to make your mind up. One minute,

534
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Speaker 3: y'all say Charlemagne is a conservative, the next minute, y'all

535
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Speaker 3: say he's a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: I'm so confused. I need all of y'all to get

537
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Speaker 2: together and figure it out.

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Speaker 3: But the point is he wasn't expecting to get the

539
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Speaker 3: conversation that he had, and he damned show.

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Speaker 2: Let me just give you the game. Go.

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Speaker 3: Look at his interviews on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, they

542
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: always asked, hey, people say you don't have experience, tell

543
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: us why people should vote for you. His answer is

544
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Speaker 3: the same, Well, you know, we need somebody from the outside.

545
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: We need an outsider. We need somebody that's not a

546
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: part of the process. We need somebody that's not a

547
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: part of the bubble. In fact, he said that to

548
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Speaker 3: Charlemagne and the beginning. If you go back and watch

549
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: the interview for those who say I overtalked, I didn't

550
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Speaker 3: say anything for about the least ten For ten to

551
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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes of the interview.

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Speaker 2: I came in towards the last.

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Speaker 3: It was just the most powerful of the pisch you

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Speaker 3: I guys off the most so. Actually, he talked for

555
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: a good minute before I said anything at all. It

556
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: wasn't until Envy said, hey, Tesz, I'm sure she has

557
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: some questions. Come on in, and when I said something,

558
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: and I literally just asked one question and kept trying

559
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 3: to give it back, saying I'm gonna give it back

560
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: to Charlia Mane, I'm gonna give it back to charloat may.

561
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: He kept coming back to me, wanting the last word

562
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: to like Lucas eloquently said, to reframe it, to reframe

563
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: the argument, to change the narrative, and to go on.

564
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: The problem is I wouldn't let him do it. That's

565
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: the real problem. You guys are upset because I wouldn't

566
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Speaker 3: let him do it. When we were talking about six

567
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: grades being facetious, saying hey, have you done anything at all?

568
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Speaker 2: I'm begging anything.

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Speaker 3: Chris Cross Apple Sauce Fire Drill Leader Lunch cafeteria lead.

570
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Speaker 3: There's something I was being just saying that you haven't

571
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Speaker 3: done anything for anybody other than self, And I'm not

572
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Speaker 3: impressed by people that do things herself. I had a

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Speaker 3: business as well or profit business. I had three hundred

574
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Speaker 3: employees as well. I know the difference between me volunteering

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Speaker 3: my time outside of that business or me even putting

576
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Speaker 3: that business up for criticism when I stood up for

577
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Speaker 3: the NBA lockout in twenty eleven.

578
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Speaker 2: I know the difference.

579
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Speaker 3: And he faked tests because it is the test that

580
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Speaker 3: he is requiring. Interesting, someday they keep forgetting that part

581
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: planning is saying that in order to participate in democracy,

582
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: you need to pass the Civics tests. Are participating in

583
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Speaker 3: the military be A first responder asked, was he able

584
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: to pass the test that he is free. It's so

585
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: interesting that they keep skipping. And you guys can call

586
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: me all the dumb and the aggressive and and all

587
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Speaker 3: that you want. The bottom line is your guy didn't

588
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Speaker 3: start participating until.

589
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Speaker 2: A few ago. That's just the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: And I noticed they conveniently go over there because you're

591
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Speaker 3: pissed that I exposed him to be the grifter he is.

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Speaker 2: It's just that, plain and simple. So I know you.

593
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Speaker 4: Keep cutting in, you keep cutting in and out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I hope it didn't miss. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: repeat all.

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Speaker 5: But you and like we can, we can make it

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Speaker 5: out if you got common sense and you can put

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Speaker 5: shit together.

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Speaker 4: But it is cutting in and out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well let me is it better now? Yeah? Okay.

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Speaker 3: The bottom line is I won't even repeat all of that.

602
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Speaker 3: The bottom line is they were coming to a hip

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Speaker 3: hop show thinking that they were thinking that he was

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Speaker 3: going to be the smartest in the room.

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Speaker 2: And it's fine if he wants to be the smartest

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Speaker 2: in the room.

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Speaker 3: He was not expecting me to be there, expecting me

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Speaker 3: to ask about his voting record. Even in mainstream media,

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Speaker 3: they haven't asked that question. They've as they said, what, hey,

610
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Speaker 3: somebody like you that doesn't have experience, what do you

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Speaker 3: you know?

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Speaker 2: What do you say to that? Well, you know, we

613
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Speaker 2: need somebody from the outside.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let me can I speak on that real quick

615
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 5: about his answer and the fact that you need an outsider.

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Speaker 5: This is to me one of the things that pisces

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Speaker 5: me off right because we learn a lesson on write

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Speaker 5: watching Trump when you have a problem when you have

619
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Speaker 5: a person that is an outsider that doesn't have any

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Speaker 5: connections to the actual Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: So when you hear him talk, he never.

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Speaker 5: Ever ever can tell you what his interactions with the

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Speaker 5: Republican Party will be. As president, you actually have to

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Speaker 5: work with the with the political party, and his criticism

625
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 5: is that the political party will not.

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Speaker 4: Let him in.

627
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 5: So we are somehow supposed to believe giving him the

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Speaker 5: presidency with a political party that does not accept his

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Speaker 5: ass that will not let him be become a part

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Speaker 5: of the process, that treats him as an outsider want

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Speaker 5: to somehow magically make the political wills turn the way

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Speaker 5: that they are supposed to turn.

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Speaker 4: So even in his assessment of that we're in the hell.

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Speaker 5: It's his analysis of what is currently happening inside the

635
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Speaker 5: Republican Party and how we plans to deal in with

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00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: the dysfunction, separation, and detachment that the Republican Party is

637
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 5: now facing. So with this, with this acknowledgement that you

638
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: don't have any experience and how the fucking machine works,

639
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 5: it doesn't give much credence to those who are looking

640
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: at the machine, seeing all of its faulty, seeing how

641
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 5: it is broken, and realizing you don't have a fucking

642
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 5: plan in place to fix any of it, right, And

643
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: this kind of goes back to that meritocracy, because that's

644
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: what the fuck they keep talking about, that it is

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Speaker 5: a meritocracy.

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Speaker 4: That's how we operate in a meritocracy.

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Speaker 2: Right now, the RNC.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't have one single black fucking employee in the whole

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Speaker 5: goddamn building.

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Speaker 4: So you're trying to tell me that all of these

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Speaker 4: black faces.

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Speaker 5: You're running around talking about how equal they are, because

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Speaker 5: that's what y'all believe, not one of them is actually

654
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Speaker 5: qualified to be in your ranks. Not one of them

655
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Speaker 5: is actually qualified to be in the political party that

656
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Speaker 5: you say is so meritocracy slated, that same meritocracy that

657
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: won't let your ass in. But for some reason, you

658
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 5: never have to answer the question about how the Republican

659
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Speaker 5: Party treats you, specifically when it comes to you being

660
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Speaker 5: a candidate. So he, like I said, he doesn't even

661
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 5: have a single attachment towards the Republican machine. No respect,

662
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Speaker 5: no honor, no connections, no relationships, no trust, no anything.

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Speaker 5: And if we have not learned our fucking lesson being

664
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Speaker 5: people on the right wing about having that total detachment.

665
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Speaker 5: Than like that, We're gonna repeat some very very hard

666
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Speaker 5: lessons over and over again, because that is not a

667
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Speaker 5: recipe that actually works if you are trying to activate

668
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Speaker 5: a political party.

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Speaker 3: And this is a great thing you say, you said,

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Speaker 3: Denise's friend, because she's requested to speak, She's completely and

671
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Speaker 3: guess what, Let's ride this wave. If they want to

672
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: sit up and talk about me every day, we every day,

673
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: I'll bring in nothing but conservatives. I'll repost it on

674
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Speaker 3: my podcast, I'll put it on my Instagram. I'll make

675
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Speaker 3: let's let's let them hear from you. Since they don't

676
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: want to talk to you, let's go ahead and let's

677
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Speaker 3: play the game that they're playing. You want to have

678
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: the Conversation's cool, I'll pass the mike to the conservatives.

679
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Speaker 3: And I just want to finish on that point. And

680
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring Denise up. I even brought that up

681
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Speaker 3: in the interview. I said, have you ever did anything

682
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Speaker 3: within the Republican leadership and the Republican Party at all?

683
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Speaker 2: And he totally ignored that as well.

684
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Speaker 3: Notice they're not bringing that up because it's so much

685
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Speaker 3: easier to just bring up how aggressive I was. And

686
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Speaker 3: I ruled I would. I didn't know conservatives were, so

687
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Speaker 3: I thought they or snowflakes sonny.

688
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: I thought, oh, they need coloring books and safe spaces.

689
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Speaker 2: Okay.

690
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Speaker 3: See, I was so confused because the message has always

691
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 3: been you guys like tough talk. All Fox News does

692
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: is talk over people and interrupt people and get their

693
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Speaker 3: point out. I didn't know, And I thought I was

694
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Speaker 3: being kind of nice, because you know, girl, I can

695
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: get really ugly.

696
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: I thought I was being kind of nice.

697
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Speaker 4: You was nicer than him, and you being you was

698
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Speaker 4: nice to me.

699
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Speaker 5: When I come on your podcast, I gotta deal with

700
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Speaker 5: Trump questions.

701
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: When I come on your podcast, you bring.

702
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Speaker 2: Him, that's right. So I thought I was doing quite well.

703
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Speaker 3: And I want to save this point guys for those

704
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Speaker 3: who again because a lot of the people of the

705
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Speaker 3: comments you're not Breakfast Club listeners, so you have no

706
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Speaker 3: clue of how it actually works. It's an actual radio show,

707
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: so we only get like thirty minutes because a lot

708
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Speaker 3: of that was cut out on the actual radio.

709
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Speaker 2: It's not a YouTube show. It's an actual radio show.

710
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Speaker 2: And so and the time that we have to go.

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Speaker 3: With interview, because it about thirty minutes, it ended up

712
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Speaker 3: being forty two minutes on YouTube. A lot of that

713
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: we had to cut cut out. So even so folks

714
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: are saying, oh, I wish you would have said this,

715
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: and I wish you would have said that, and I

716
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Speaker 3: wish you would have asked more about this, and like

717
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: Sonny's talking about getting to the nuances, we don't have

718
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Speaker 3: time for that when I do podcasts, like I've had

719
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Speaker 3: Sonny on my show several times, and we talked about

720
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Speaker 3: conservative issues, line by line, nuances by now, we can

721
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Speaker 3: sit there for an hour straight, you know, uninterrupted.

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Speaker 2: Two hours straight.

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Speaker 3: I've sat here talked through this on Twitter space for

724
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Speaker 3: sometimes four hours at a time, twelve hours at a time.

725
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Speaker 3: I think my record on the Twitter space was literally

726
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Speaker 3: twelve hours. So I have no problem like going through

727
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Speaker 3: all of the nuances, all of the minutis, all of

728
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Speaker 3: the bullshit, like we can go through it line by

729
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Speaker 3: line by line by line. I was on a radio show.

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Speaker 3: That does not happen. Because you sit on YouTube doesn't

731
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Speaker 3: mean it's a YouTube show. We just didn't have the time.

732
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Speaker 3: So I appreciate everybody said, oh, man, I wish you

733
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Speaker 3: had said this, and wish you said that.

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Speaker 2: There was just no time. I really only have maybe.

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Speaker 3: Two questions I can get in at best because there's

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Speaker 3: two other people interviewing as well. That's why I was

737
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Speaker 3: quiet halfway through. It's my particular question on this visions.

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Speaker 2: One statement.

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Speaker 3: My one particular question stung so bad because I didn't

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Speaker 3: get into like Sunny just brought up a good point

741
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Speaker 3: about how he has no connections in the Republican Party.

742
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had time to do that. My point was,

743
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: bottom line is you just started voting a.

744
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Speaker 2: Few years ago.

745
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: You're asking people to serve in the military. You have

746
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: nothing not done either, nor have you done anything besides

747
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Speaker 3: anything that I profit and benefit yourself.

748
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Speaker 2: I tried to let it go.

749
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Speaker 3: He kept coming back, trying to explain and reframe it,

750
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Speaker 3: and I wasn't going for the bullshit. I could have said, well,

751
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Speaker 3: you know what you got that you're right and let

752
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Speaker 3: him go on, but that's just not my style. So

753
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: that is what you're seeing, guys. That's why they're pissed off.

754
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: They didn't like it because he wasn't able to sit

755
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Speaker 3: there and run his pr campaign of the bullshit.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to say, quick, why they let me tell

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Speaker 4: you why I.

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Speaker 5: Can serve it as hate, not even necessarily what you

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Speaker 5: did to vvet Breakfast Club as a whole, right, because,

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Speaker 5: like you pointed out, some of the most relevant sound

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Speaker 5: clips as far as the Biden administration and Black America

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Speaker 5: have come from Breakfast Club have come from Charlemagne.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: So every single time Charlemagne catches one of these Democrats,

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Speaker 5: whether it's Hillary Clinton having a hot sauce moment which

766
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Speaker 5: they still talking about, like, every single time he catches

767
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Speaker 5: them in one of these moments, it becomes a right

768
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Speaker 5: wing kind of clip.

769
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Speaker 2: A viral clip on the right wing.

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Speaker 4: Look what Charlemagne, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And that's the only time that they give Charlemagne any

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Speaker 5: flowers whatsoever, because they hate black culture.

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Speaker 4: So the last.

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Speaker 5: Thing that they would want is somebody likes Charlemagne who

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Speaker 5: is from the culture to be able to have more

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Speaker 5: move and sway on the political conversation than they do.

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Speaker 5: So for all of these people of color, and I'm

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Speaker 5: talking about especially these black faces, whenever they talk about

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Speaker 5: the color, I mean about the culture, you can see

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00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: their venom start to seep out because they cannot they

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Speaker 5: cannot understand while we as black people would hold more

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Speaker 5: value in a Charlemagne than we would hold in their

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Speaker 5: black faces. Right to them, we shouldn't choose Charlemagne, we

784
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Speaker 5: should be choosing them. And the fact we consistently the

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Speaker 5: fact that we consistently choose Charlemagne, we consistently choose dj

786
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Speaker 5: envy like we consistently choose them over these black faces,

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Speaker 5: that pisces them off.

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Speaker 6: And what they would let me say, what they want

789
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Speaker 6: to do, more than what they want to do, more

790
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Speaker 6: than anything, is they want to make sure with their

791
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Speaker 6: behavior that.

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Speaker 4: They separate.

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Speaker 5: Breakfast club from any of our people on the right right.

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Speaker 5: So if they are vitriolic, if they are nasty, if

795
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Speaker 5: they are disrespectful, if they are downright bigger than hateful monsters,

796
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Speaker 5: then that will make breakfast clubs stay away from us,

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00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And that's what they're trying

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Speaker 5: to do. They want to make sure that their behavior

799
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Speaker 5: causes the kind of riff that no matter how much

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Speaker 5: we do, no matter how much we build bridges, build fences,

801
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: build conversations, that their ugliness, that their divisiveness, that their

802
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 5: nastiness will always make sure we never have real conversation.

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Speaker 2: And that is their main goal. Absolutely and too bad.

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Speaker 3: So sad, guys, because again, I've known Sonny for over

805
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: a decade, so I know real conservatives. Shout out to

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00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: Dane in the building. I see you, who also works

807
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: with judsejoh Brown. I think he's one of no doubt

808
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 3: about his conservative views. I've been on his show several

809
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: times and we've had great conversations. So it's so unfortunate

810
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: because actually, guys, I actually really do know conservatives, Black

811
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: conservatives for real, and I know. And so you're not

812
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: going to close the door because I'm here to open it.

813
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: So just so you guys know, we see the play.

814
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: We know the play, and I want to speak. I

815
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: want to save this to the Democrats and the liberals.

816
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's so just like Sonny mentioned when Charlomagne

817
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: says something against Democrats. Oh man, they love they It's

818
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: usually them to make the videos too. You know, Hey,

819
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: look at him, he's over there chucking the job for

820
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: the conservatives. Look at him. He's just a Republican. He's

821
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: just a trumpert. He's just he's just that. I can't

822
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Speaker 3: stay in the breakfast club. They always giving a Republican

823
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Speaker 3: to that. Now they just saw me a viscerrate vibe.

824
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Speaker 3: I noticed their retweeting it. They're not talking about it.

825
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Speaker 3: You know why, Sonny, because they have to be able

826
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Speaker 3: to say, they have to keep their narrative alive to

827
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Speaker 3: say they never do this to conservatives, they never do

828
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Speaker 3: this to Republicans do this.

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Speaker 2: So they're sitting back watching all of this, knowing.

830
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Speaker 3: That they could say, you know what, I think one

831
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Speaker 3: girl did he yes to say, you know what, I

832
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Speaker 3: don't really rock at the breakfast club. But they got

833
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Speaker 3: this one right. See, they can't play into that too,

834
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Speaker 3: because this is a team sport. It's not a lot

835
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: of real ones like us to say, hey, I deal

836
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Speaker 3: with the real, no matter if you're a conservative, a

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Speaker 3: Democrat or liberal or whatever. I did with the real. See,

838
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: it hurts their narrative too, because they have to be

839
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Speaker 3: able the next time when I get into a Democrat

840
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Speaker 3: like I did, Mary Anne Williamson or Justin Pearson, they

841
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 3: have to be able to say, oh, yeah, she only

842
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: does this Democrats, like they're saying, now, oh she only

843
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Speaker 3: does this to Indian Americans. They have to find See,

844
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Speaker 3: this is all about, guys, we're giving you the game.

845
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: This is all about whenever you go against their team.

846
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: It's all about pal on. Just conservatives, i would say,

847
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: are just better at it than Democrats. They really pal

848
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Speaker 3: on because meanwhile democrat kind of go on to the

849
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: next thing, go on to the liberal, or they play

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Speaker 3: the you know, I'm above it role, like Joyce said,

851
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: you know I'm above it. He can't come on my show.

852
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: I'm above it. I'm not gonna engage. So they do that,

853
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: which they and she has the right to do that.

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Speaker 3: She says, he doesn't even deserve to have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'm always down to the conversation. I'm down with getting

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00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: beat up or what y'allever y'all think, because really you're

857
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: just typing. And for those people asking what I did

858
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Speaker 3: in the military, I was an M sixty gun. I

859
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: was a security police officer. So that that type of talk,

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Speaker 3: that that typing your ass off, it doesn't put fear

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Speaker 3: in me at all. I've taken death threats, I've done

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Speaker 3: it all. So at the end of the day, guys,

863
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: you're you're showing your slip. Let's give it over to

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Speaker 3: Denise because I know she had some things to say.

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Speaker 3: And anybody else, Sonny that you think needs to come

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Speaker 3: up and talk because I want to put this on

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Speaker 3: a podcast, and I'm really gonna push to make sure

868
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Speaker 3: that we get your voice. Well, I've been doing it

869
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: for over a decade with you, But if we need

870
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: to keep having this conversation, if they want to keep

871
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: using me as the person that you know to have,

872
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 3: you know, to say, oh, let's beat her up, let's

873
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: make them listen to some black conservice and make sure

874
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: your voice is bumped up as well. So if anybody else, Sonny,

875
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I know a lot of people

876
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: just get on the troll. So there's anybody else, let

877
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: me add you as co host, does anybody else you

878
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: want to just give the mic to feel free and

879
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: I'll do Denisa, You're up next, and I know you

880
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 3: have another space you have to do as well.

881
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you Teslin, and thank you Sonny. Teslin a

882
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 7: beautiful job. Thank you for not falling for the charm

883
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 7: offensive that Vivic has been on. So there's another part

884
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 7: of this, and I hope I don't get kicked out

885
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 7: of the space for saying this, but we have to

886
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 7: realize that part of Vivic's pr in addition to him

887
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 7: selling the book, as you'd commented, is he is trying

888
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 7: to normalize Asian advocacy to as they are championing change

889
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 7: the face of America to the point where they're they're

890
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 7: piling on and ganging on with the folks who want

891
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 7: to erase the negro legacy in this country and frame

892
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 7: it as some kind of victimhood, perpetual victim blaming and

893
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 7: the like. So with this whole merit fairness and equality thing,

894
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 7: the MFE idea, he and all these other conservatives including

895
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 7: RUFO and the like are trying to normalize his message

896
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 7: and send the message that brown folks can come to

897
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 7: America and excel, and those who are here who aren't excelling,

898
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 7: it's all because you haven't put in the work to

899
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 7: make it. So systems be damned and the historical impact

900
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 7: be damned. And Teslin, you and I actually recorded an

901
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 7: interview about Kiitanji Brown Jackson's appointment probably whenever that happened

902
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 7: for Revolt TV quite some time ago.

903
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Speaker 2: So that was my.

904
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was great, and it was to see you

905
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 7: work and you're very powerful at what you do. So yeah,

906
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 7: and you know, I had a space about masculine women,

907
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 7: so what now what? And I put it in air

908
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 7: quotes because I don't buy the idea I black women

909
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 7: haven't been able to rest on our laurels and be

910
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 7: all super like, come take care of me and save me.

911
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 7: We've had shit to do and when stuff Sorry, I

912
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 7: don't mean to cuss in your space, we had.

913
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: Nothing to do. I'm normally much worse.

914
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 7: Okay, thanks, you know, we had stuff to do, and

915
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 7: when stuff needed to get done, we didn't look around

916
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 7: to see who was gonna do it.

917
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: We just did it.

918
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Speaker 7: That's kind of part of our legacy. That's kind of

919
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 7: how we move. So the whole idea about the masculine

920
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 7: and being rude and all of that, he deserves a

921
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 7: little bit of rudeness. I'm sorry, but the idea that

922
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 7: you would applaud yourself for getting a black man at

923
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 7: fire while he was talking to you about your history,

924
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 7: I think was really disgusting to me, even though I

925
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 7: hear what you're talking about with the background with Don

926
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 7: already being on his way, but just to even put

927
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 7: that out there as an accolade on your resume was

928
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 7: really problematic. So here's my question to you, though, And so,

929
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Speaker 7: as a political strategist and someone who is obviously very

930
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 7: experienced with message discipline when it comes to politics. You

931
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 7: talked about the game, which is how they send out

932
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 7: the text. They send out the email, they follow certain

933
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 7: Twitter pages, Facebook, the whole thing, and they rally to

934
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 7: support the message that's going to advance the public narrative,

935
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 7: that will set the emotional tone and therefore the political

936
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Speaker 7: will for the actions they want to see. I wonder

937
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 7: what you say to black folks about how we need

938
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 7: to move when it comes to that, because I do

939
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 7: hear people being selectively outraged about who they support. If

940
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 7: the messenger ain't one hundred percent what you want to

941
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 7: see about one hundred percent of the topics, then you

942
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 7: don't support it. So what are your thoughts about what

943
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 7: I'm going to call political maturity and message discipline and

944
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 7: political strategy from the Black American Negro freedman right perspective

945
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 7: to cultivate the emotional, intellectual, and political will to get

946
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 7: our agenda normalized in the public narrative. I know that's

947
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 7: a lot of words, and I hope what I'm saying

948
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Speaker 7: is makes sense because I know you I'm.

949
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Speaker 2: Ming and Mason, no, no, no, you're not.

950
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: And again this is why I love Twitter spaces because

951
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: we can flush this all out and we don't have

952
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: to be cut off by commercial And I know exactly

953
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: what you're saying. And for those that don't know, just

954
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: giving you because apparently nobody looked at my background. So

955
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 3: I was the racial justice director for Bernie Sanders and

956
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: he also ran obviously a populist campaign in twenty fifteen.

957
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: Just giving you conservatives to keep trying to run you know,

958
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: I guess think you know about me. Give you some background.

959
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: And this was in twenty fifteen when nobody knew who

960
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders was. I was the only black person on

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Speaker 3: the ground in Michigan from the national level and was

962
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: credited for having a huge impact on why we were

963
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: able to win that state and be Hillary Clinton a

964
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Speaker 3: historic when because I was the one that and I

965
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: got to give this just bear with me, because I

966
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: want you to know who they're actually talking to, that

967
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: I'm not just an interviewer. I actually work on the ground.

968
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Speaker 3: I was the one, the only one that connected Bernie

969
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: Sanders to the black people. That's why Sonny's talking about

970
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: how it's important to work with black people that actually

971
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: know black people. So Bernie Sanders didn't know five black

972
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: people probably in life. And so I was the only

973
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: one literally that connected him to Danielle Green and people

974
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: in the Flint community. So while Hillary Clinton was coming

975
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: in and just you know, shaking hands and kissing babies

976
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: and lead and leaving, I was building relationships on the ground.

977
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: And I'm saying this because it's going to tie into

978
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: your answer to me. And so when Bernie Sanders came

979
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: in and hugged Danielle Green, this is how I know

980
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: how pr works.

981
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: Hugged Danielle Green. They took that picture. They took that photo.

982
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: He talked about it in every camp, every speech after that.

983
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: They made campaign videos after that because it was the

984
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: first time that you saw Bernie Sanders be assault empathy

985
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: on his face. As you guys know, he is one

986
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: that doesn't show emotion. So that one photo of him

987
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: hugging Danielle they took that and they ran with that,

988
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 3: and it made a huge influence of why we were

989
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: able to beat with a state that Detroit had all

990
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: of you know, Hillary Clinton had Detroit sold up. I

991
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: went to Flint and then all of the white folks

992
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: on campaign went on the outskirts to the labor organizers

993
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: and so That's how we were able to beat in

994
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: two percent. I did that, by the way, while my

995
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: mother was also every other weekend, I was going home

996
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: because she also had cancer, and I was going home

997
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 3: to my five or six year old child at the time.

998
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: So this is why I challenged politicians and talk about

999
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: what they have time to do and what they don't

1000
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 3: have the time to do.

1001
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: You don't want me going down eats.

1002
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: But anyway, neither here nor there, we won that state

1003
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: and now Danielle Green. Fast forward, after everybody left the

1004
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders, the Hillary Clinton or whatever, they didn't know

1005
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: they'd keep their relationship with daniel Green. They didn't know

1006
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: that eventually she would run for state up for school board.

1007
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: They didn't realize that the one person that supported Bernie

1008
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: Sanders at the time is now literally the Flint mayor.

1009
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: He was a house rep at that time. Because they

1010
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: lost those relationships. So if Bernie Sanders had to run today,

1011
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: he wouldn't know anybody in Flint because he hasn't kept

1012
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: those relationships. So when you say, well, what do we do, Tesla,

1013
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: I never try to focus on one hundred percent of

1014
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 3: the black community. They are not trying to focus one

1015
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: hundred percent of the Indian community, a hundred percent of

1016
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 3: the White community, one hundred percent of the Asian community,

1017
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the Spanic community. They simply do

1018
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: what I tell people all the time. Get your coalition,

1019
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: get your people. It could be ten, it could be fifteen,

1020
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: it could be twenty, and you organized stop waiting on

1021
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the culture so say and begging

1022
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: and pleading and getting them to get on board, because

1023
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 3: that's not going When you talk about fifteen thousand comments,

1024
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a lot of these people who have

1025
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: created new accounts, who have made multiple a discipline to

1026
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: go in ten times, fifteen times, twenty times. It's what

1027
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: I credit the Reparations movement for what they've been able

1028
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 3: to do on Twitter. It's not a lot a lot of people, guys.

1029
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: When you look at the people in the Twitter spaces

1030
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: that are having these conversations about reparations, you see the

1031
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: same people over and over and over and over. When

1032
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: you look at when I first started and saw the

1033
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: conversation about reparations, that I would look at people who

1034
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: were starting those conversations and I see thirty thousand followers,

1035
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: fifty thousand followers, maybe one hundred thousand followers, but the

1036
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: conversation seems so big because it was a dedicated group

1037
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 3: of people that just plowed over and over and over

1038
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: and over. The criticism that I would say with that,

1039
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: I won't even say that movement. With some movements, they

1040
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: don't share the space with other people to make it grow.

1041
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: So I've been doing Sonny, like I said, since two

1042
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: thousand and nine. There has never been an opportunity. I

1043
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: don't want to say never because it's absolute. But anytime

1044
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: I've seen her in my space and she wants to

1045
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: speak and she raises her hand or even times what

1046
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: I say, Sonny, can you tap in?

1047
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: I always lend the mic.

1048
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: When I got my podcast on iHeartRadio twenty twenty, she

1049
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 3: was one of the first people I brought on. She's

1050
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: the same to me with serious We have always lended

1051
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: our space to each other. So it's not a matter

1052
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: of getting them on board. It's a matter of getting

1053
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: us on board, the ten or fifteen or twenty or

1054
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 3: so of us that know how to push the line.

1055
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 2: You mentioned revolt and how you came on a revolt.

1056
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: I got to show we're gonna we're gonna do about

1057
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: ten episodes on Revolt in July. Instead of having one

1058
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: co host, I said, let's get four or five. I

1059
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: want to hear different voices people that I have followed

1060
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: or that I know throughout the years, that even I

1061
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 3: don't may not agree with everything they say. It could

1062
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: have just been just me and my show. I'm already

1063
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: a commentator on Revolt, but I said, no, let's get

1064
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: this person. That person. Let me lend the space to

1065
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: them as well. So it's just a matter of connecting

1066
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: with folks like me and folks like Sunny and keep

1067
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: pushing the line because they're not gonna do it.

1068
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1069
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: Democrats, it seems that it seems that Don Lemon himself

1070
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: will want to retweet what I did. It seems that

1071
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: people that support Don will want to retweet what I did,

1072
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: but they can't. You know why, they can't denise because

1073
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: then it would be them feeling like they're crediting the

1074
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: breakfast club, and they have to stay mad at the

1075
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: breakfast club. It would be then crediting me because they

1076
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: have to make sure that they are the toughest in

1077
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 3: the room at all times, and surely they don't want

1078
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: to do that, so they don't want to make a

1079
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: scene like but guess what I did. I share Joy's

1080
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: comment on my Instagram. She hasn't shared mine. She follows me.

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Speaker 2: She saw it. They saw it, and I'm not mad

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Speaker 2: at Joy. It's just how I move.

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Speaker 3: I shared her commentary on my Instagram. I shared it

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Speaker 3: on my Twitter. None of them have shared mind, none

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Speaker 3: of them. And it's not that they don't see it.

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Speaker 3: It's just they can't go against the narrative that the

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Speaker 3: breakfast club is trade. So when you are truly independent

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00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: like myself, and willing to have conversations for real and

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00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: real life and real life for people, not just for

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Speaker 3: pr I go against everything that both sides stand for

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Speaker 3: when it comes to, you know, playing the team sport

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Speaker 3: if you will. I have gotten beat up for you know,

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Speaker 3: whether it's Bernie Sanders I'm not a socialist, whether it's

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Speaker 3: working with Crumb.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, he's working with Crumb. He's a grifter.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do his policy, and I'm proud to say

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Speaker 3: that I worked on fifty pieces of legislation for police reform.

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Speaker 3: I've gotten beat up in this Twitter space for attending

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Speaker 3: Tariq's rally.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're over there with Tarik. You're a drifter. I've

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00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: gotten beat up for talking to Sunny. Oh you're over

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Speaker 2: there with the concerned. He must be concerned. I've gotten

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: beat up for talking to Charlotte Manne. Oh yeah, he

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Speaker 2: just this and that.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't I've always taken a hit for everybody and

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: everything that I've done. So you just have to find

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Speaker 3: more people like that and just connect. Fuck fuck the

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00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: rest of them. We're here having this conversation now, if

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Speaker 3: they want to use my name. Amazing Lucas when he

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Speaker 3: did that video, I've never met that man before in

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Speaker 3: my life. I don't know anything about him. I just

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Speaker 3: saw the video and said, you know what, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to amplify this. And I didn't just retweet it. I

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Speaker 3: called in his show and said, hey, I Tesling, I

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Speaker 3: want to thank He was talking about me literally on

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Speaker 3: the show. He doesn't know me, but I said, you

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Speaker 3: know what I want to I appreciate what you did.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate what you did.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 3: Let me call in and not no, no, not only that, Denise,

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Speaker 3: let me send one hundred dollars to the super check.

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Speaker 3: Let me put my money where to Matthews. So this

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Speaker 3: is why guys, I don't when you look at multimillionaires

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Speaker 3: shout out to Vivian for doing the scholarship shout I'm

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Speaker 3: glad I inspired you because I'm not impressed whether it's

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Speaker 3: him or Mary Anne Williamson who are multi multimillionaires. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna always challenge him to do more and do better

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Speaker 3: and put service over self. My girlfriend did a speech

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Speaker 3: at her dad's funeral on Saturday and elected about service

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Speaker 3: over self. I'm service over self. So I'm not impressed

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Speaker 3: about what you do for profit. I'm impressed on what

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Speaker 3: you do for everybody else. And guess what, still didn't

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Speaker 3: vote in the last two or three years and you're

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Speaker 3: still running a pr campaign. But I'm glad that you're

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Speaker 3: using it for some good use to benefit somebody else.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you that.

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Speaker 3: Credit, but just know that you're moving according to the

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Speaker 3: pressure that I put on you.

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Speaker 2: Baby. That's it.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is, and that's how I know

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Speaker 3: that my job is done. I do what's having everybody

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Speaker 3: this is says on Figure Out. We continue this conversation

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