1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is key On, your 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: favorite Okay Storytime host and we've got great stories coming 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: right up. 4 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: from the sponsors that keep this show alive. My roommate 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: wanted me out so he can take his sister's kids 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: from foster care. 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Honestly, that sounds incredibly reasonable. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: My roommate and I rent a pretty nice two bedroom 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: apartment together. We pay practically nothing in rent because we 11 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: have a deal to keep and I on things and 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: take care of the facilities. It's a great deal because 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: it doesn't take more than a few hours a week and. 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: We take turns. 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Paint Stunning seventy five 16 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: twenty nine And if you want to submit your own stories, 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay Storytime suburnate. I am Savannah, 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, and we are here to give good advice. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Goofully. 20 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: But obviously we do not have all the answers, but 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: we would love to know what you would do in 22 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: the comments below. 23 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: As Op says. 24 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: My roommate's sister lost custody of her kids, two girls 25 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: and one and maybe facing prison time. My roommate wants 26 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: to get them out of the foster system since they 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: were placed in separate homes. Oh yeah, he is their 28 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: only other family since their dads aren't in the picture, 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: so there's no one else who can take them in. 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: The social worker gave him some requirements and has issues 31 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: with me because I am an unrelated adult male and 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: because I have a record of substance. 33 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: Also because of the ages of the kids. 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: My roommate needs to have at least two bedrooms. He 35 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: cannot afford a two bedroom place except this one because 36 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: of the great deal we get. This is why he 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: wants me to move out, he says. The fact is 38 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: he needs the apartment more than I do. I understand 39 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: he is in a difficult position, but rent is insanely 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: expensive around here. If I moved out, renting even a 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: single bedroom elsewhere would be way more expensive than renting 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: this apartment by myself. I would like to keep living 43 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: here so I can save money and hopefully one day 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: buy a place of my own. That goal is unlikely 45 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: to happen if I have to pay mark get right rent. 46 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: I was also living here first, so I don't feel 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: it's fair that I should be the one to move. 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Am I the a hole? 49 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: That does add a bit of a wrinkle into the situation. 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they I just think and regardless of who 51 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: was there first or like you know, who pays what, 52 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: Like I just I think like just asking someone to 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: move out of the house because the other person just 54 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: needs it is like inconsiderate. But I also understand the 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: situation of like getting the kids out of like the system, 56 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: because you know, obviously you don't want to keep them 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: in the system because that's just scary and hard. 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: But you are It is a little bit like selfish 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: a holy because guess what you can maybe maybe a studio, 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: not even a one bedroom. Maybe maybe you find another 61 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: place with more than just one roommate. I don't know 62 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 4: what to tell you. But also, you were here first, 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: but are you going to use that when it's like 64 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: I was here first? So the same problems that I 65 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: am saying are the reasons why I can't leave, even 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: though they also apply to you and now two children 67 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: that you have to deal. 68 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: With that now. 69 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like I don't know, it's just the 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: situation just sucks. 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Here are some comments. Isn't your great deal for ren 72 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: has a taking care of things condition. I assume having 73 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: three kids at home maybe a deal breaker for the 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: landlord anyway, regardless, if he can't afford to take the 75 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: kids in, he shouldn't. I'll be honest, this is a 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: heartbreaking situation and not leaving the house will make you 77 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: feel like an ahole, but you are entitled to be 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: an a hole given the circumstances. Opie responds, I don't 79 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: know about the landlord, but the taking care of things 80 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: doesn't really take that much time at all. Another comment says, 81 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: depending on the ages of the kids, since they are different, 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: they may be required to have separate rooms, So your 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: roommate would actually need a three bedroom place. That was 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: the concern when we were contemplating getting some Nibblings place. 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Yes with us, Opie responds, their social worker just said 86 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: at least two bedrooms. Another response, your roommate may also 87 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: be eligible for a stipend if he provides foster care 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: for the kids. That stipend can go towards pain for 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: a suitable place. Opie says, no, he's family, so he 90 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: doesn't well. Another comment says, is social service is going 91 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: to be paying him like a regular foster family if 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: so he can't afford a new place. Opie says, no, 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: I guess relatives don't get money, but he's going to 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: apply for SNAP. Another comment says, where was mom living 95 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: with these kids? He could move there with them instead. 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: Question Mark not sure what her living situation was before 97 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: her loss of custody, but the kids were somewhere not 98 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: the a hole. Hoping for the best for your friend 99 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: and his kiddos, though Opie responds, not an option. Another 100 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: comment says, your roommate needs to talk to a social 101 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: worker to get set up for housing, food stamps, Medicaid, daycare, 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: and whatever he needs to do to take care to 103 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: care for these children. Are the grandparents around can they 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: assist in some way? It seems like there should be 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: other family members who can help out with the situation. 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Opie responds, as I said, my roommate is their only family, 107 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: and there. 108 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: Is an update. This is a pretty short update. 109 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: I got the suggestion a few times that I should 110 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: talk to my landlord about the situation since he may 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: not be okay with the idea. While he was okay 112 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: with the idea of kids, he already has a lot 113 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: of tenants with kids. He was not okay with continuing 114 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: the same arrangement with my roommate without me there. So 115 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: there's really no point in me moving now since my 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: roommate would have to pay market rate rent for the place, 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: which he can't afford as of right now. My roommate's 118 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: plans are to continue living here while he figures out 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: some other arrangement. Once he does, he's going to move 120 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: out and I'm going to get a new roommate here. 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: Okay. But two, well, I guess that kind of takes 122 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: care of itself then. 123 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: So he's just gonna get a new place. 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: He's just got a knuckle down, yeah, and figured out 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: Update two. 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: I said in my last update that my roommate was 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: going to continue to live here until he figured out 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: some other arrangement that would work out for the four 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: of them. I had passed on some of the helpful 130 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: suggestions and sources people messaged me about. Upon further research, though, 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: he realized it was still going to take time and 132 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: it would be faster for him to save up money 133 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: for a deposit and first slash last month's rent on 134 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: a new place, and then get assistance once the kids 135 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: were moved in. Honestly, I don't really get how it works. 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: For those wondering why he doesn't have money saved up 137 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: from living here, it's because he's been using the money 138 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: to pay off his student loans. So plan was for 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: him to hopefully have enough in four to five months. 140 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: My roommates started to become more and more hostile, though 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: first just passive aggressive, but it led to a big blowout, 142 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: nothing physical, just yelling. He was really mad because he thought, 143 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: since I have such a good relationship with our landlord, 144 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: that I should have tried to convince him that he 145 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 2: could handle the maintenance on his own. 146 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: That's the case where it's like I feel like and 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: I feel like it could be and OP might have 148 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: just spun it where it's like, oh, yeah, well, if 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be here because the landlord likes 150 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: me so much, he won't give him the deal. It'd 151 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: be like, no, if I'm not here, the landlord thinks 152 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: that the maintenance can't be done, so that he wouldn't 153 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: do the deal. I would be upset, be like, dude, 154 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: you didn't even go to up to bat. You didn't 155 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: go up to bat for me at all, Like at. 156 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: All that's true. 157 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: He could have definitely like said, you know, like that, 158 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: I think that I would put in the category of. 159 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: An a hole move. 160 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, because it seemed like it was almost like 161 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: a well, I'd see now he knows and there's nothing 162 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: I can do, so whatever, And it's like, dude, you 163 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: could have tried to convince him at all, but I 164 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: bet you got the answer you kind of wanted to get, 165 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: and then you were like, yes, okay, thank you. 166 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 167 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: He was kind of like telling it like not yeah 168 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: and like his own. 169 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Words, I don't know, just have a heart, brother, I 170 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. 171 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: Man. 172 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I would be wanting to help this. 173 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 4: If this is a roommate and a friend of mine 174 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: and they're trying to do this, I would want to 175 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: try to help them to make that happen. 176 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, honestly. He probably could. I know I 177 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: can handle it on my own. I almost considered it too, 178 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: because I didn't think I wanted to continue to live 179 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: with him. After talking to my landlord about the situation again, 180 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: we came to a new agreement. My landlord is going 181 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: to be ending our lease. He gave us both official notice. 182 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to continue living here, but moving into another unit. 183 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: It's a smaller one bedroom and a bit smaller, but 184 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: on the bright side, it was recently renovated, so it's nicer. 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to. 186 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: Do the maintenance on my own from now on, but 187 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: it's still a really great deal and worth it to 188 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: not have to deal with roommate issues anymore. 189 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: And yeah, it feels like there was a way to 190 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: figure this out with both of you still in this 191 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: building and maybe the rent being reduced on both of 192 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: these apartments, maybe not to the same level that it was, 193 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: but to a level that is still beneficial to both 194 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: of you. Yeah, because and it feels like you just 195 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: fully didn't even try to make that happen and just 196 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: did it for yourself. 197 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's kind of whack. 198 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: That's the part that's kind of throwing me off, because 199 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: now he's saying, like, oh, I moved into like, you know, 200 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: like another place but still in the same Like I 201 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: moved into the same building but different like room, and 202 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: like I'm still getting the deal that I want so like, 203 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: but like the other guy's not going to get the 204 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: deal because he's not doing the maintenance. 205 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, man, it just were you how 206 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 4: tight were you with this roommate. It really is reading 207 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: like this was a stranger. But at the beginning of this, 208 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just assumed you guys were close. 209 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe if if you're not super close, I mean, 210 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: I guess I can see doing this, but like, yeah, 211 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: it's uh, I don't know, man, everything just kind of 212 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 4: sucks about this situation. 213 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like there's not really like a good answer 214 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: because like all of them kind of stink. 215 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 3: It's putting everyone in like a bad situation. 216 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: Like someone has to get a short end of the stick. Yeah, 217 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: and uh, it's not really fair to anybody. 218 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Thankfully, I will be able to move into the new 219 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: unit in just a few days because my old roommate 220 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: was super pissed after he got the notice. He used 221 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: more than a few expletives when talking to me and 222 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: says ruined everything because now he won't be able to 223 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: save money since he's going to have to start paying 224 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: rents somewhere. To be honest with how he's been, I've 225 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: sort of lost sympathy for him. I do still feel 226 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: bad for his sister's kids, though. 227 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: Comment number one. 228 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,479 Speaker 2: I think op was absolutely right to make the decisions 229 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: he did, but I'm still not unsympathetic to the situation 230 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: his roommate found himself in. 231 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: Uh, there is a. 232 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Reply the roommate should be working with the social worker 233 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: to see what benefits he can obtain. It sounds like 234 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: he's been tricked into an informal kinship care setup which 235 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: would remove the foster stipend Comment number two. Who would 236 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: have thought without context that the landlord ending the least 237 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: was a win win for OP. I still do empathize 238 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: for the roommate, though comment number three. I was feeling 239 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: bad for the roommate until we learned they got a 240 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: good deal for rent because of OP. Roommate wants to 241 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: keep the deal OP made and evicted Ope from the apartment. 242 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: I get it was a decision in a rush, but dude, 243 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: and then when it rightfully didn't happen, but OP still 244 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: gave him plenty of resources to go for a roommate 245 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: decided that being a little crap was his option. The 246 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: situation is crappy, we get it, particularly for the poor kids, 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: but it's not a reason to be an absolute dip 248 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: crap to the person that helped you get a deal 249 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: that saved you money. By acting like that roommate just 250 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: created another problem for himself. He could have stayed neutral 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: and keep living in a cheap rent apartment until he 252 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: had enough money, but no, he decided to be so 253 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: unbearful that Opie wanted to leave, which I think was 254 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: his plans all along, but it didn't turn out how 255 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: he expected it. All in all, the only person I 256 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 2: feel bad for are the kids. Foster care doesn't seem 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: like a pleasant walk, but I hope they have the 258 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: chance to find people that care for them. And that's 259 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: the end. 260 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: My roommate stole money from me to buy junk food, 261 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: so I took revenge. 262 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, I love junk food. 263 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: I twenty seven female, live in a house with two 264 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: other girls around my age. I get along with one 265 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,359 Speaker 4: of them fine, but the other one, Amanda, is a nightmare. 266 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: She's super morbidly obese, which I feel sorry for her for, 267 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: but she uses her disability to manipulate everyone around her. 268 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user Draped in Pearls 269 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: and if you want to. 270 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: Submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 271 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: storytime suburn it. I'm Dakota and I'm Savannah, and we're 272 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: here to give you good advice, Goofily, But we don't 273 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: have all the answers. 274 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: We just know what we do, so tell us what 275 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: you do in the comments. 276 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: As Op says she's on so social Security because she 277 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 4: obviously can't work at her size. She does very few 278 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: chores around the house because moving around is exhausting. She 279 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: doesn't bathe regularly for the same reason. She often takes 280 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: me and our other roommate's food and eats it, claiming 281 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: she'll pay us back or buy us a replacement when 282 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: she has her weekly groceries delivered, and she never does. 283 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Our lease is up at the. 284 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: End of August and I did not renew, mostly because 285 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: of Amanda's behavior. She was upset when I told them 286 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: this at this start of summer because until they get 287 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: a new roommate, that means the remaining girls have to 288 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: cover my share. My one roommate understands, but Amanda is furious. 289 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: She says, I'm abandoning her and I should have to 290 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: pay my share until a new girl moves in, even 291 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: though my. 292 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Lease is up. 293 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: I told her that's not happening. Ever since then, her 294 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: bad behavior has ramped up. She takes even more of 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 4: my food. She makes passive aggressive comments constantly. But worst 296 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: of all, she stole money from me the other day. 297 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: There's this specialty candy shop not far from where we 298 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: live that has imported and nostalgic candies along with homemade 299 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: pies and other stuff. It's a cool place. Apparently Amanda 300 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: went there last night and came home with a ton 301 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: of junk food. She left a majority of it in 302 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: the kitchen and said it's for everyone, help yourself, but 303 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: it's pretty clear it's for her. When I asked how 304 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: she was able to afford all that, since I know 305 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: she struggles with money, she said, flat out, I borrowed. 306 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Some of the cash you had in your room. 307 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: I went to check and she had taken one hundred 308 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: dollars of my money to spend on junk food. 309 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that, like I I could see maybe like five 310 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: ten bugs, maybe a twenty. 311 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: Now this is an intervention level moment. So you took 312 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: one hundred dollars from me to buy junk food. 313 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, which means you like went through my stuff. 314 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like went in my room, moved my stuff around, 315 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: found some money, and was like, I'm gonna go spend 316 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: this on something that I want. And then come back 317 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: and say this is for everyone. 318 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: Lake. 319 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's just a rash, It's 320 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: a logical, irrational behavior. I was super pissed off and 321 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: unloaded on her, calling her a thief and an ahole 322 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: in a bad roommate. She started to cry and said 323 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: she bought it for everyone as a gift for the household, 324 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: and if I'm that upset, she will pay me back. 325 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: But of course she won't because she never has. She's 326 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: terrible with money and almost always broke the week after 327 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: she gets her SSI so here's where I might be 328 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: the ale. 329 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: She's leaving for the weekend to visit her parents. 330 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: I want to take all the treats she left behind 331 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: and donate them to a food shelf, except two things. 332 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: I want to eat a slice of the homemade pie 333 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: she bought, still untouched as of now, and text her 334 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: how good it is, because as much as she pretends 335 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: the food is communal, she gets upset when one of 336 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: us eats food she bought. So I want to eat 337 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: a piece of her pie and then dumped down dish 338 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: soap over the rest and put it back in the fridge. 339 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: When she goes to eat it, it will be ruined 340 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: and the dish soap won't hurt her. Then I plan 341 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: to take the homemade jam she bought and dump them 342 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: into her bed sheets and let them sit until she 343 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: gets home. By then I'll have packed my important stuff 344 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: and be gone. I'm moving back in with my parents. 345 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm over this. So would I bedaole for donating food 346 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: she bought with my stolen money? Eating her pie because 347 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: I know it would bug her, ruin the rest and 348 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: mess up her bed sheets. The last thing I'm not 349 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: positive I'll actually do, But the other things I definitely 350 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: will come at one. It's your money, your food, do 351 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: what you want with it, but you should dang well 352 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: file a theft report too, but refrain from damaging her stuff, 353 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: as that could cause issues that aren't worth dealing with. 354 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Her over Op replies, Yeah, you're probably right. 355 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: How do you feel about me taking a bite of 356 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: every single candy bar and treat she bought and then 357 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: putting them back half unwrapped and full of bite marks? 358 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Lol? I still don't feel great about that. Just feels 359 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 1: like what are we accomplishing? 360 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: Like we know this person's behavior was bad, so are 361 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: we just gonna also have bad behavior in response, like 362 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: an I for an eye makes the whole world blind, 363 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 364 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it seems like you just want to get 365 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: like your eyes out of her, to just be like, 366 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: you stole my money and now I'm gonna do something 367 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: terrible to you. But like I don't know, getting even 368 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: with someone isn't always the right choice, and he usually isn't. 369 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: A reply says, also, do not put dish, soap or 370 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: any other foreign substance in the food. 371 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: You could get arrested for that. It's not worth it. 372 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: Comment too says just donate what you don't eat. Opie says, 373 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: the point is I want to piss her off. While 374 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: the humanitarian thing to do would be to donate these treats, 375 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 4: the petty part of me wants her to come home 376 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: see all the remaining treats inedible and freak out. 377 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: And there's an update. 378 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 4: Amanda already left this morning. I have decided not to 379 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 4: mess up her bed sheets. If she has a heart 380 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: attack changing the bedding, i'd feel awful. I'm just gonna 381 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: take bites of every single treat she left behind and 382 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: leave the opened, half eaten treats in her bedroom I 383 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 4: have decided not to destroy her sheets or put soap 384 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: on the pie. Many of you pointed out that can 385 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 4: make someone very sick, as mad as I am, I 386 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: don't want to hurt her. 387 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: What I am going to do is eat that pie 388 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: from the inside out. 389 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: I'll leave the ring of crust in the tin and 390 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: put it back in the fridge. Then I'll take all 391 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 4: the candy she left behind and bring it into my 392 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: work on Monday. Whatever's left over after work, I'll donate. 393 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: I'm not going to call the cops for three reasons. One, 394 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: my city is currently experiencing a vandalism epidemics of those 395 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: resources would be better. 396 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Used working on that. 397 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: Two, I am highly mistrustful of the police and would 398 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: only call them in an emergency. This is not an emergency. 399 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: And three, in the grander scheme of things, one hundred 400 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: dollars doesn't matter that much. It was birthday money for 401 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 4: my family, not something I worked for myself. I also 402 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: don't want to post about this on social media, as 403 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: she is very good at playing victim and I don't 404 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: want it to turn into a case of me bullying 405 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: the fat lady. Thanks everyone for the comments. 406 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: God, I need to just get out of there and 407 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: be done with it, like stuff trying to like get 408 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: even like this is there's no no point and it's 409 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 2: just you're not like I don't That wouldn't make me 410 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: feel good. 411 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you're you're, you're. 412 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: This kind of stuff is like you dream poison and 413 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: then you expect it to hurt the other person. 414 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: You're just poisoning yourself. 415 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like she's already miserable if you haven't caught on, 416 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: so you don't really need to go out of your 417 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: way to make her even more miserable. 418 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Because she is. 419 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 420 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: There's a third update. 421 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: I spent the entire weekend moving my stuff out of 422 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: our apartment and back into my parents' place, so I 423 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: am no longer Amanda's roommate. To answer some of the 424 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: most frequently asked questions, I did not destroy her bed sheets. 425 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: I spent the weekend slowly eating the pie in shifts. 426 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: I left the crusts in the refrigerator. I took the 427 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 4: rest of the candy and snacks when I left and 428 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 4: brought it into work today. Whatever is left over at 429 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I'll donate. I did not 430 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: file a police report. Not only am I mistrustful of 431 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: police in general, but I feel like Amanda has enough 432 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 4: problems in her life without a criminal record. Plus now 433 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 4: that I'm gone, she can't steal from me again. Our 434 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 4: other roommate, who was home a lot this weekend and 435 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: witnessed this whole mess, has gotten a lock for her 436 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: bedroom door. Last night, on six pm, I got the 437 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: phone call I had been expecting. It was Amanda asking 438 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: if I was gone for good, since my room was 439 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: empty and the n espresso machine, which is mine was gone. 440 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: I said I was, and it was in large part 441 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: because of her taking my money and using it to 442 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: buy candy. She panicked when I told her, I took 443 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 4: the rest of it with me, like a legit hyperventilating breakdown. 444 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting that. I was expecting anger. She cried 445 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: on the phone, saying she was looking forward to coming 446 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: home to eat certain things, and since the store she 447 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: has got them from has closed until Monday, her entire 448 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: day was ruined. She was legit crying into the phone 449 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: like she was dealing with someone's passing, not missing snacks. 450 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: I knew she had an issue with overeating, but I 451 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: was unaware she was this emotional about food. Yeah, because 452 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, a very nuanced, intricate mental health 453 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: disorder that leads somebody to live that lifestyle and it 454 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 4: is not a normal response and it should make your 455 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: eyebrows raise, I guess. But but yeah, again, he didn't 456 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: really have to go super hard because she's already miserable. 457 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: Her snacks are missing, and it ruins her whole day. 458 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: It's someone who needs help. 459 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's It's sad. 460 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: It is more than anything. 461 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: It is. 462 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: It is a little sad. I'm glad you're out. 463 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you can control. 464 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: More than anything. 465 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: It sucks to live with a thief. Yeah, have you 466 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 4: ever lived with a thief? But maybe you did and 467 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 4: they were so good? You don't know. 468 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: I know my cousin is a thief. Well she's still 469 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: from my mom. But my mom called her out. 470 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: There you go, she did it again? Am I almost 471 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: like you gotta call out the thievery anyways? Ope, he says. 472 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: I kept calm and I told her that the candy 473 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 4: wasn't hers anyway, it was mine, and that she's lucky 474 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: that I just took it with me. I could have 475 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: filed the police report for her being a thief. I 476 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: told her my portion of August rent was given directly 477 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: to the landlord when I had him come in yesterday 478 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: morning to inspect my room, so if she messes things up, 479 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: he will know it wasn't me. She didn't care about 480 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: any of that. She didn't care that I'm gone, or 481 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: that I could have involved the police. She just kept 482 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: asking if I had left any of the snacks behind, 483 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: what about the Mary James, or did you leave even 484 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: a few of the mini mallow cups. When I told 485 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: her I took everything, she started to ball even harder. 486 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: At that point, I just hung up. I'm over it 487 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: and it's done. 488 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: I haven't heard from her since, but our other roommates 489 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: texted me later that night to tell me that she 490 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: cried again when she found the pie crusts. 491 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: In the fridge. And that is the end of that story. 492 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: My roommate is obsessed with cleanliness, and it's a nightmare 493 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: for me. 494 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: Why is that because you're a stinky, little pig pen person, 495 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 4: little pit person. 496 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: Over the past few months, I've been living on campus 497 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: in a four bedroom apartment. We are all girls and 498 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: all around nineteen years old. By the way, this comes 499 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: from Calligrapher novel for eighty six and if you want 500 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 501 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: okay storytime subreddit. I am Savannah, I am Dakota, and 502 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: we are here to give some good advice goofy, but 503 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: we don't have all the answers or you would just 504 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: tell you what we would do in this situation, but 505 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: we would love to know what you would. 506 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: Do in this situation. Comment down below. 507 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: As OPI says, during this time, my roommate claimed that 508 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: I brought a mildew smell into our room. She even 509 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: asked if I shower. Apparently the smell wasn't there while 510 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: she stayed in our dorm for two weeks during summer. 511 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: This was very awkward. This happened on. 512 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: The first day of moving in, by the way, so 513 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: she did not make a good first impression. I even panicked, 514 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: thinking I had made her uncomfortable. I watched everything I 515 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: had and immediately took a shower, but she still claimed 516 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: the smell remained. I asked sweet mates if they smelled anything, 517 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: and they said they didn't. Because of this mildew smell. 518 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: She sprays our room with air freshener every. 519 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: Day and night. 520 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: I also had a multitude of problems with her, which 521 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: led me to contact the people in charge of housing 522 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: multiple times. The problems included her keeping her lights on constantly, 523 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: even at night. She has three lights, one desk lamp 524 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: which she's the brightest, another lamp near her bed, and 525 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: a decently sized neon sign hanging over her bed. She 526 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: usually keeps the lamp near her bed and the neon 527 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: sign on. She sometimes keeps them on all night, even 528 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: after I asked if she could turn them off. One day, 529 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: I was tired and her lights were too bright for me, 530 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: so I turned them off. The next day, she said 531 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 2: that if I touched her stuff again, she would report 532 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: me to housing. During Labor Day weekend, I got sick. 533 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: When I told my roommate, the first thing she said 534 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: wasn't I hope you feel better, but turn your face 535 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: to the wall so you don't cough in my direction. 536 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: She only said she hoped I got better. After saying 537 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: all that, that night, I kept coughing. She kept complaining 538 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: to the point where she told me to sleep on 539 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: the couch, which I did because I felt bad for 540 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: interrupting her sleep. 541 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: After I got better. 542 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: Apparently I stoted snoring in my sleep because my roommate 543 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: asked me to sleep on the couch again. I got 544 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: tired of her complaining, and also because I felt bad, 545 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: I slept on the couch for a few days. One 546 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: time I left my shoes on her rug, which she 547 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: said was disgusting. I apologize and put my shoes back 548 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: on my side. One day, I accidentally hung my loofa 549 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: onto her shower hooks, and I found it in the 550 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: trash the next day. All of this led me to 551 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: ask Urra to set up a mediation meeting. The thing 552 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: was that my roommate plays volleyball, so she is almost 553 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: never here sometimes. But when we finally caught her just 554 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: as she was about to leave, we did our first 555 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: mediation meeting. Apparently, she only threw my loof away because 556 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: she thought it was hers. All she said about my 557 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: loofo was oh, my bad. She also claimed that she 558 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: didn't know we had any issues because I never said anything. 559 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: She lied and said she never told me to sleep 560 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: on the couch. She said she would try to keep 561 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: her lights off at night, but that promise lasted only 562 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: about four days. Sometimes they were on sometimes they're off, 563 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: she said. The reason she said those words to me 564 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: when I was sick was that she plays volleyball and 565 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: didn't want to get her team sick. I get that, 566 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: but it was still pretty rude. After this, she started 567 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: locking the door at night. It was kind of annoying 568 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: having to get my key all the time to unlock it, 569 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: but I wasn't too mad. Literally a week after the mediation, 570 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: my roommate went on a volleyball trip. One night, I 571 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 2: started feeling a sudden knee pain, which led me to 572 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: sit on her automan. I sat there for only a 573 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: few seconds, waiting for the pain to fade, when she 574 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: suddenly came into the room. She immediately started yelling at me, 575 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: asking why I couldn't sit anywhere else. I couldn't sit 576 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: on my bed because it was too tall for me 577 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: and I would usually have to jump or hook my 578 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: leg onto it, which was hard to do even if 579 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: my knees weren't an excruciating pain. I apologized multiple times 580 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: and explained my side, but she wasn't having it. 581 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: Dude. 582 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even apologize. I'd be like, it's a freaking ottoman, Dude, 583 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: I'm sitting on it. 584 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah my knees. Yeah, get over yourself. This is it's 585 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: not made out of gilded like, come on, come on. 586 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: I decided to leave for a bit until she calmed down. 587 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: My sweet mates heard the commotion and recorded my roommate yelling. 588 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: On the recording, she said that what I did was 589 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: cross contamination. She even threatened to call campus police and 590 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: housing on me. We alerted the RAS and they found 591 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: her lit candle, which she wasn't supposed to have and 592 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: confiscated it. After this incident, I started sleeping in my 593 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: sweet mate's room underneath their blanket forts. During this time, 594 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: OURRA was doing check ins and confiscated another lit candle 595 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: from the room. Pretty sure she thinks I had something 596 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: to do with it, because she kept asking if everyone's 597 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: dorms were being checked. This happened from August to September. 598 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: I started sleeping in their room for most of October 599 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: because I didn't feel comfortable sleeping in the same room 600 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: as her. When I did see her outside their room, 601 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: she never really talked to me or apologized for the 602 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: freak out, so I avoided her unless I needed something 603 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: from my room. This only changed a week ago. I 604 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: started sleeping in my room again on Monday to testify 605 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: felt comfortable while she was awake. She kept both of 606 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: her lights on all night. Around eleven thirty pm, she 607 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: started watching YouTube at a loud volume so I could 608 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: hear it. I asked if she could use headphones or earbuds. 609 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: She said her air pods were in her bag, but 610 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: instead of getting them, she just turned the volume down. 611 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: She was also constantly spraining lysol. I have severe asthma, 612 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: so I was coughing more than usual because of this. 613 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: I literally tasted it in the air, and she was 614 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 2: only spraying her side. I went into the bathroom for 615 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: about ten minutes to recover. When I returned, she had 616 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: her air pods in. We finally got a meeting with 617 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: the head of housing on Tuesday, where my roommate explained 618 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: her side. She admitted that when I sat on her 619 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: ottoman she overreacted, but said it was due to MY 620 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: repeated behavior of touching her things. During September, our entire 621 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: apartment area experienced the power outage, turning off everything, including 622 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: her air purifier. When she returned from volleyball, she asked 623 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: about the purifier and I explained it must have been 624 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: off due to the blackout. At the meeting, she revealed 625 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: she didn't believe me back then, even though she could have. 626 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: Asked our sweet mates. 627 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: She also claims that after her freak out, she realized 628 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: she never saw me sleep in the room, contacted our 629 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 2: ra and had a housing about it, but neither mentioned 630 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: that to me. She claims she also has asthma, which 631 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't get because she used candles and sprayed large 632 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: amounts of air freshener daily. But people can have different severities. 633 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: She said she didn't know there was a problem because 634 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: I didn't say anything. I admit I didn't tell her 635 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: about some issues, mainly because she yelled instead of listening. 636 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, she has. 637 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: She's like, I'll understand why she didn't tell me any 638 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: of this stuff. It's like, it's not like every single 639 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 4: time we interact. 640 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: I just scream at. 641 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Her because I sat on your automate and you ate 642 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: me out. 643 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: That was probably the wrong. 644 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: That might have been the wrong turn of phrase there. 645 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: Because I sat on your automate and you bit off 646 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: my head. 647 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: There we go. 648 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: She had things to say too, so she could have 649 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: easily addressed them. She said the lights were always on 650 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: because she was used to that. With her previous roommate, 651 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: she locked the door at night because that's what she 652 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: was used to. 653 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: What a we got. 654 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you can just work it out to 655 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: where you don't have. 656 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: To live with this person anymore. 657 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: I think that's the whole point of like RAS and 658 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: like the housing authority for campuses and stuff like. 659 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: I think that's where you should take this. I wouldn't 660 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: want to live with this person sounds insufferable. 661 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like she needs to live alone because 662 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: she doesn't want any roommates. She doesn't want to have 663 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: to deal with anyone else, so she should just live alone. 664 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: That seems like the obvious thing to do here. 665 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: Anyways. 666 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: She basically said she is a germophobe and reacts harshly 667 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: when anyone she isn't close with touches her things. 668 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: Because the people that you are close to don't have germs. 669 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. 670 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: What you're trans let me retranslate that. 671 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: I I don't talk to people I respect this way. 672 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: I only talk to people I don't respect the way 673 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: I've been. 674 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Talking to you. 675 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: There you go. 676 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: She sprays lifesaw because she is sensitive to smells and 677 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: still smelled the mildew the head of housing suggested a 678 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: maintenance request and granted me permission to turn off her 679 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: lights if she is out late. With her permission, she 680 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: said she wouldn't stop using lightsow but would spread less. 681 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: Alternatives suggested include wax melts, which are allowed. The head 682 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: of housing asked if I felt comfortable sleeping in the 683 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: room again, and I said maybe I'll try, but I 684 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: honestly don't feel comfortable after everything. My sweet mates feel 685 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: the atmosphere is less tense, but they think some of 686 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: her explanations were total b s. 687 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 3: I still don't want. 688 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: To sleep in a room with someone who clearly doesn't 689 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: like me. On rare occasions when I see her on campus, 690 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: she avoids me. This all happened long before the first mediation. 691 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to leave because my mom knows where 692 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 2: my dorm is. She even popped in unannounced once. I 693 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: haven't told her any of this. If she finds out, 694 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: she will make the situation about her and make it worse. 695 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: There are some comments, would you be able to move 696 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: out or get a new space to stay in? This 697 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: seems detrimental to both your mental and physical well being. 698 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have survived this or uh oh. 699 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: Be response. 700 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: I might be able to move, but the moving pro 701 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: says to a different dorm would take a while, especially 702 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: when every ra I've talked to said the dorms were 703 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: jam packed and even if I did move, it would 704 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: be kind of redundant because we only have a few 705 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: weeks left of college this semester. After the first mediation, 706 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: my roommate was given the option to leave because the 707 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: mediation didn't work. She was approved to move to a 708 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: different apartment. They even gave her the key to it, 709 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: but for some reason, she didn't want to move, even 710 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: though she clearly has issues with us not liking her. 711 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, she didn't want to move because then she loses. Yeah, honestly, 712 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 4: she might be a little competitive. 713 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: She plays vollyball. 714 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: I just I don't know if the like, why would 715 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: you want to stay in a room where you just 716 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: complain and don't have a good time, and you know, 717 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: don't like the people we live with If they're offering 718 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: you a solution, it's like, nah, I. 719 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 3: Rather just complain. 720 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: That would be quite lame. 721 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: Because she never moved out, the moving process was automatically canceled. 722 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: For the process to be approved again, we would have 723 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: to go through another mediation to get approval. Anyways, my 724 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: roommates said there's a fifty to fifty chance she would 725 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: be moving now next semester to share a dorm with 726 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 2: her volleyball team. So I hope that actually happens. And 727 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: that's the end. 728 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: Hey, it's Carly, your favorite Axelottel host. 729 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: Here. 730 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 5: We're going to get back to the stories, but here's 731 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: three minutes of ads from our sponsors. My assistant lied 732 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 5: about me, so I refuse to let her have her vacation. 733 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: What you can't take that away? The title sounds rough, 734 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: but hear me out on this. 735 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: I thirty one female, have been managing a small Starbucks 736 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 5: kiosk in my store for a little over a year now, 737 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 5: and in that time I have faced nothing but struggles, 738 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: mainly with my assistant. 739 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: We'll call her Betty. 740 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from Honest fifty four one 741 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 5: hundred and if you want us to make your own stories, 742 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 5: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. I'm Carly 743 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 5: and I'm Savannah, and we're here to give you good advice. 744 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: Goofiy. 745 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 5: But we don't have all the answers. We only know 746 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 5: what we would do, so let us know what you 747 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 5: would do in the comments, and Opie says when Betty 748 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 5: was first hired, she made a deal with the old 749 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 5: manager that she absolutely needed Thursdays and Fridays off, but 750 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 5: never gave a legitimate reason for needing those days in 751 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 5: her interview. At the time, I was the bookkeeper, so 752 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: I heard her entire interview. Since the bookkeeping office and 753 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 5: store office are side by side, our old manager granted 754 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 5: that to her, but it never became a written agreement. 755 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 5: That was over two years ago. Betty calls out sick 756 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: twice a month after her weekend, claiming that she has 757 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 5: the flu or food poisoning, but comes back the next 758 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: day as if nothing happened, and she takes four ten 759 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 5: day vacations a year. Is that stressful on me? Yes, 760 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 5: but I've always managed to get through it. However, when 761 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 5: I am sick, which is rare because I have to 762 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 5: feel like I'm passing away to call out, she refuses 763 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 5: to cover me or anyone else, even though I have 764 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 5: covered for her countless times by working doubles. 765 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: When she calls. 766 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 5: Out, Betty is always ready to leave the minute her 767 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 5: shift ends, whether someone is here or not for coverage 768 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: leaving me high and dry. I normally do not care 769 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 5: about someone taking vacation, since this is part of our compensation. 770 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 5: I put my vacations in as soon as my vacation 771 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: for news, so there's no need to fight over it. 772 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 5: One of my vacations includes my one year anniversary with 773 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 5: my boyfriend. Right after New Year's two days ago, Betty 774 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 5: came up to me and said that she talked to 775 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: our ASM about getting January second through the tenth off 776 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 5: for a wedding. She has been discussing endlessly. I get 777 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: her excitement, but I told her, unfortunately that's not going 778 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 5: to work because I have January second to the sixth off. 779 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: January second is my one year anniversary with my boyfriend, 780 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 5: and I won't be in this part of the state. 781 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 5: One of us has to be here. Betty looked shocked 782 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 5: and said, well, can you change the time you go 783 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 5: out of town? We already put the deposit in on 784 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 5: the venue. I told her this is why I have 785 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: the planner for us to put our vacations in so 786 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: we know when either of us is gone and avoid 787 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 5: overlapping issues. I've had this time off approved since the 788 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 5: end of July, and I'm not willing to change it 789 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: or give up my planned vacation time that works for 790 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: my boyfriend and me before he begins his next. 791 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: Quarter of school. 792 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 5: I could tell Betty was furious, and all I got 793 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 5: was was about that. Today Betty went up to management 794 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: and lied, saying that I agreed to change my vacation 795 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 5: in January so she could get married. She could get married. 796 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 5: I thought it was her friend's wedding. 797 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 798 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm very confused. I'm not gonna lie. 799 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 5: At the beginning of this, I was very much like, 800 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 5: and she sounds like she just is working at a 801 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: job that she doesn't really like, and she does her 802 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 5: bare minimum. And you can't really be mad at someone 803 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 5: for doing the bare minimum on something like as long 804 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 5: as was she not being the most considerate. 805 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: Yes, But like I thought the same thing. I was like, 806 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: it's just someone who like just works because they have to. 807 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 5: And as long as she's doing her job when she's 808 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 5: there and like supposed to be there. Sure now this 809 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 5: is like, girl, come on, Betty, what are we doing? Yeah? 810 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: And also the fact that like she lies, it was like, oh, 811 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: she said that she would change. 812 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 5: It for me, like for my wedding when it was 813 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 5: like a friend's wedding. Yore. 814 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: I'm confused. I am very confused on whose wedding it is. 815 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 5: Management came up to me on the sale floor in 816 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 5: front of her and said it was generous of me 817 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 5: to change my vacation for her life plans. 818 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: I was furious. 819 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 5: I turned to Betty and said, what on God's green 820 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 5: earth made you think it was a good idea to 821 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 5: lie to management. I have never stopped you from taking 822 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 5: a vacation in the past, nor did anyone else here. 823 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 5: But I told you I am unwilling to change my 824 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 5: anniversary trip to another weekend so you can get married. 825 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 5: I'm sorry you'll be losing money, but you. 826 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: Have to pick a different day. 827 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 5: This is where I told the management and told them 828 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 5: if you still approve this, not only will I go 829 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 5: to corporate and the union to complain, but you'll be 830 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: looking for a new manager for this department. I will 831 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 5: not be treated this way for one person to get 832 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 5: whatever she wants. Betty was infuriated with my response to 833 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 5: the point where I saw her starting to cry, saying 834 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 5: she needed a minute. A slight part of me feels 835 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 5: bad for blowing up, but in this situation, she only 836 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 5: did it to herself. Am I the a hole? No? Yeah, 837 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 5: Betty needed to put her time in as long as 838 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 5: this planner thing that you were mentioning was the legit 839 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 5: way to get because she was like, I went out 840 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 5: and bought a planner as long as that's like the 841 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: legit approved way for putting in time off, and she 842 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 5: had access to that, and she had the time off, 843 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 5: she should have put in for it. 844 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: It's also not right of Betty to, you know, come 845 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: in and lie and be like YoY. 846 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 5: They said that that I could change it and take 847 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 5: their days like, I'm glad they checked with you so 848 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 5: that that didn't happen to you, like your op's vacation 849 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 5: get taken away. 850 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that would have been in fury. It would 851 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: have been like excuse me. 852 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 5: I'm just more so like we really have no one 853 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 5: else that can cover just two people taking time off. Yeah, 854 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 5: at like all my friends that have ever worked at 855 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 5: Starbucks have so many backup people. 856 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just just tiny. They said, it is like 857 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: a kiosk. 858 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 5: But like relevant comments, Commuchawan not the ale. She doesn't 859 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 5: get to lie to management to get her way. You 860 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 5: claimed the days first. Be aware she's likely going to 861 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 5: try to sabotage you and your manager need to plan 862 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 5: to go if she quits ripe before or just doesn't 863 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 5: show up, And if that happens, it is still not 864 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 5: on you to stay back and cover the shift. Your 865 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 5: time is still approved. If she quits beforehand, you still 866 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: get your time off. That like, that's on the company 867 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 5: at that point. Yeah, that would be fed up if 868 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 5: the company tried to do that to you. If you're 869 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 5: caught unaware, it's one hundred percent on you. Guys, what 870 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: country are you in that she gets this much pto 871 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 5: four ten day vacations. I have zero problem with her 872 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 5: getting Thursdays and Fridays off like it or not. That 873 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 5: was agreed to when she was hired. I also have 874 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 5: no problem with her not picking up extra shifts that 875 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 5: is not required. Doesn't have to be a team player. 876 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 5: This is not a family, it's a job. Calling in 877 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 5: sick on a predictable basis is a problem and should 878 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 5: be heavily documented. Explain the issues to your direct manager 879 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 5: and to hr ask them how you can handle it, 880 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 5: because it's not alright. Track all of her calls outs 881 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 5: with details about when relative to the shift she called out, 882 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 5: who was available to cover, what her excuse was, when 883 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 5: it happened relative to her other days off, if it 884 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 5: was on a holiday or especially busy period. If you 885 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 5: have access to her social media, see if she's posting 886 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 5: picks on those days or picks of partying the night before, 887 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: build a detailed file. Opie says, I live in the US, 888 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 5: and how it works my company is the first ten 889 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 5: years of the company you only get ninety hours of PTO. 890 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 5: Between ten and twelve years you get one hundred hours. 891 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 5: Twelve to fourteen years you get one hundred and sixty 892 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 5: fifteen and above you get two hundred Allotted. PTO is 893 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 5: based off how long you've worked for the company. I 894 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 5: just hit twelve years in July, so I'm at the 895 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty hour mark. Betty has been with 896 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: the company for three years, so she only gets ninety 897 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 5: hours PTO and the rest is unpaid time off, which 898 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 5: employees don't get reprimanded for as it's a requested day off. 899 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 5: I do have a year's record of her callouts, but 900 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 5: not just her, everybody, including myself. I didn't want anyone 901 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 5: to feel targeted, and I make sure that everyone knows 902 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 5: I keep track of this stuff, including me. I have 903 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 5: presented her attendance issues not just to upper management, but 904 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 5: to both my dms on the company side and Starbucks, 905 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 5: since I deal with both. They've spoken to my manager 906 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 5: and nothing has happened. At this point, it's on him. 907 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 5: I do also have the morning crew alert me if 908 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 5: she called out and I come in sooner, as the 909 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 5: department is my responsibility to keep it up and running. 910 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 5: Another thing I forgot to add in agreements that are 911 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 5: not written with previous management are null and void when 912 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 5: new management steps in in my company. But Betty goes 913 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 5: to the union each time something doesn't go her way, 914 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 5: forcing management to roll on their backs. OPI, responding to 915 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 5: a downloaded comment about when she got hired at the 916 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 5: company at such a young age, Opie says, I'm thirty one. 917 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 5: I got hired right before I turn nineteen. Technical and 918 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 5: community colleges accept people well beyond eighteen for education in 919 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 5: the US, OPI explaining what happens if she and Betty 920 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: can't be off at the same time, even if it's 921 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 5: just for a few days. Opie says, if the main 922 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 5: manager is out, the assistant needs to be present. Vice versa. Basically, 923 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 5: a manager needs to be present each day, regardless how 924 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 5: it works out, what happens if you both actually get sick. 925 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's not a good system. 926 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 5: Yeah. 927 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 3: Commentary two. 928 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 5: Betty is an entitled brat, but you could have picked 929 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 5: a fight with her on any other time that wasn't 930 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 5: her wedding, Opie says, I understand your point. The wedding 931 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 5: just came up within the last week, months after I 932 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 5: had my time off approved. Well, now we're lying because 933 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 5: you talked about how she's been talking about this wedding 934 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 5: NonStop for months. Yeah, that all you've been hearing about 935 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 5: is this wedding, and now you've only known about it 936 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 5: for a week. 937 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: So I think maybe Betty didn't share the date, but 938 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 2: was talking about talking about it, you know, blah blah blah, 939 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: and then I'll give you that. Oh, I'll just you know, 940 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 2: put in my time whatever, not thinking that it was 941 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 2: gonna correspond. I don't think that Opie actually knew that 942 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: the wedding was at that time. If you did, Ope, well, 943 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't. 944 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 5: Think that changes when you're with your boyfriend, is though, 945 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 5: Like that's still inconvenient timing in my head, I'm at 946 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 5: the point where she maybe was like, oh my god, 947 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 5: these are the same weeks. Better get that in which like, 948 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 5: and you did it the right way. 949 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. You did it the way that you're 950 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: supposed to, but you also could have said something, you know, 951 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: But also she doesn't really respect you in that way, 952 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: you know. 953 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with that comment or where it's like, couldn't 954 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,959 Speaker 5: you have picked it before the wedding kind of thing, 955 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 5: like I hope that she doesn't lose out on all 956 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 5: these deposits for a wedding because that's a lot of money. 957 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, at the same time, I am like, she 958 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 5: probably knew the protocols, but like, I don't know. I'm 959 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 5: always like, if you can help someone out, why don't 960 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 5: you help someone out? But it's like she doesn't help 961 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 5: you out. So yeah, no, I'm exactly the same. My 962 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 5: boyfriend is still in school and this is during his vacation. 963 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 5: It would be one thing if I could pick a 964 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 5: different weekend with my boyfriend, even with major holidays being 965 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 5: a blackout period, But to lie to management to take 966 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 5: my vacation time after it was approved months ago is 967 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 5: not okay with me. I won't roll on my back 968 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 5: for that. Comment to three, not the a hole. Why 969 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 5: is Betty still employed there? Opie says. We're a union, 970 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 5: so it's very difficult to fire someone. Can Opie go 971 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 5: to the union and report Betty since she lied to 972 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 5: the management? Opie says, I have talked to my ASM 973 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: assistant store manager about her attendance issues, and there has 974 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 5: already been a problem with Betty going to corporate and 975 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 5: making a false accusation on HR. Nothing has been done 976 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 5: on their end. I can only make so many suggestions 977 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,959 Speaker 5: to them about having a documented conversation when they don't 978 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 5: seem interested. We are a licensed store, not a franchise, 979 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 5: so we are technically employees under the other company in 980 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 5: the partnership Kroger and Union. It's very hard to just 981 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 5: fire people in the union. There has to be a 982 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 5: big reason, and fighting for time off that was approved 983 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 5: months ago for a last second notice is not grounds 984 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 5: for termination. Dishonesty is, but they don't do anything about it. 985 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 5: Comment or four says, it doesn't sound like Betty is 986 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 5: doing anything out with her rights on any of your 987 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 5: background info. You're the manager. If there's no coverage at 988 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 5: the end of her shift, that is a you problem 989 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 5: sounds like you need to hire another person, Opie says, 990 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 5: I understand your point. We are a partnership Kiosk, not 991 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 5: an actual franchise store. I already worked six days a 992 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 5: week and can't work a seventh. That's part of our 993 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 5: union contract. If it happens on my day off. Betty 994 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 5: is in charge, so it becomes her responsibility to find coverage, 995 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 5: much like how it is my responsibility to do the 996 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 5: same when she calls out that much. I understand, but 997 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 5: I tend to work doubles since my closers can't come 998 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 5: in early due to school interference. I wish I was 999 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 5: part of the hiring process, but HR leaves department managers 1000 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 5: out of that. Opie clarifies on the pay cut for 1001 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 5: her position. Opie says, I actually didn't take a pay 1002 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: cut for this position. I was under the impression that 1003 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 5: I was going to get a raise for being in 1004 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 5: a manager position, but they took that away, so I 1005 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 5: kept my current pay and the tips make up for it. 1006 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 5: I developed the habit of tracking things very early on 1007 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 5: in life, so this is just natural habit to this point. 1008 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 5: When I was the bookkeeper, management also wanted me in 1009 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 5: three other departments helping out, and I got to a 1010 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 5: point where I just wanted something stable and reliable for work, 1011 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 5: and this was my ticket. As Opie spoke with the 1012 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 5: proper district managers of her company about the situation with 1013 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 5: Betty and the days off, OPI says, I've already spoken 1014 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 5: to Starbucks DM and my company Kroger DM about her 1015 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 5: in one of my planning visits. I didn't have to 1016 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 5: mention her work ethic, as they already knew about it, 1017 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 5: but I did mention and present how often she calls 1018 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 5: out stating that her attendance is a liability. I know 1019 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 5: it was put in an email because I have it 1020 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 5: printed out in a file in my locker with my 1021 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 5: boss c seed in it, but nothing on his end 1022 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 5: was done about it. As far as her day's off go, 1023 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 5: that was the least of my issues with her because 1024 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 5: I have a set day off each week. However, we're 1025 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 5: going through some scheduling changes where Thursdays and Fridays off 1026 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 5: for Betty is not doable for business purposes. I even 1027 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 5: had to change my day off, which I. 1028 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 3: Was fine with. 1029 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 5: So maybe she'll just quit if that was kind of 1030 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 5: like already written enough that those had to be her 1031 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 5: days off. If you guys can't do that anymore, maybe 1032 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 5: she'll quit. 1033 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 3: That's true. 1034 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe if because I wonder what she's doing Thursdays 1035 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 2: and Fridays. I mean, it could actually be something serious. 1036 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be like. 1037 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: Oh, I just want a pregame and I don't think 1038 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 2: she has to disclose that information. 1039 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you don't do I want to know? Yeah, 1040 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 3: am I No? 1041 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 5: Maybe? Yes, there's a couple of problems with the Thursday 1042 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 5: Friday weekend for Betty now. One not doable for business purposes. 1043 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 5: Two that was a non written agreement under different management, 1044 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 5: so that agreement is now null and void. I don't 1045 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 5: know why I've been getting Maybe I've just felt very 1046 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 5: against Ope's today. But some things that everybody keeps saying, 1047 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 5: I'm just kind of like, why are we doing this? 1048 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 5: Like why doesn't it work now? Is this just because 1049 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 5: something happened and she lied, which is terrible, But are 1050 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 5: we now changing things because of that? Or is this 1051 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 5: like in actual need I to know everything? 1052 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 3: I feel like I said. 1053 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: Well, especially like with you know, talking about the stuff. 1054 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: So it seems like these people like Ope very much 1055 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 2: like is doing everything by the books, so then why 1056 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 2: is it not working? So, like, that's what I don't 1057 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 2: understand is like, how did all of this come to 1058 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 2: head when you've been complaining. You keep records, you keep 1059 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: all these things, but they just don't do anything. 1060 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. It sounds like your upper management sucks even more 1061 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 5: than Betty somehow. 1062 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know how you could go over 1063 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 2: their head and like go to the union. I feel 1064 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 2: like that's like overdoing it, you know, But. 1065 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 5: Well, the Union's going to be way more on Betty's 1066 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 5: side though. The union is there for Betty, not for 1067 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 5: the company running spid no, which sucks. I'm sorry, ob, 1068 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 5: the unions are great at the same time. 1069 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: It is. 1070 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: It's true because they fight for you, but but they 1071 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 2: also fight for all of the people in it that 1072 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: are sucky, which sucks. 1073 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 5: Our current manager doesn't need to honor that. 1074 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: Three. 1075 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 5: She's pulling everything she can to get her way, even 1076 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 5: if it means calling the union. And we have an update. 1077 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: Oh, just get to it. 1078 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 5: I want to hear do it. One month later, for 1079 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 5: a recap, my assistant Betty asked me to reschedule my 1080 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 5: one year anniversary trip with my boyfriend so she could 1081 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 5: have her wedding, to which I declined. Then Betty went 1082 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 5: to management and lied, saying I would do it for her, 1083 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,479 Speaker 5: only for it to blow up in her face. One 1084 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 5: thing I forgot to add in the original is that 1085 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 5: I keep a planner in the department, not just for 1086 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 5: important things coming up like a launch or sale dates, 1087 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 5: but also so Betty and I can put in our 1088 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 5: vacation and work around each other, so no vacation overlaps 1089 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 5: due to previous problems last year. And yes, Betty is 1090 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 5: fully aware that this exists. I not only put my 1091 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 5: vacation time off in the system, but the planner as 1092 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 5: well as soon as my vacation hour's renewed, all vacations 1093 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 5: six months to a year in advance, so there's no 1094 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 5: question of it. Fast forward to today, Betty did it 1095 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 5: again and what live I was flipping through the planner, 1096 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 5: so for the coming months, I knew what to expect 1097 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 5: and have a plan weeks in advance of important dates. 1098 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 5: I knew Betty scheduled her wedding date, but didn't know when. 1099 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 5: I only had the hint that it would fall towards 1100 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 5: the end of May to early June. In a local park, 1101 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 5: you can rent part of for the day. No shaming, 1102 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 5: but I know that dates can be switched easier than 1103 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 5: an actual venue, which works for me as well as 1104 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 5: I will be around. 1105 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 3: Wait, I thought that. 1106 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 5: I thought it was like just January. 1107 00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 3: That's what I also thought. 1108 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 5: It was like, I think that's what we're about to 1109 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 5: find out. 1110 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. 1111 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 5: For the last four months, I've been pretty vocal with 1112 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 5: my plans the week of the twenty first to the 1113 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 5: twenty seventh of June as my boyfriend and I will 1114 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 5: be going to Yellowstone as an end of school year 1115 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 5: summer punt off vacation. When I saw the month of June, 1116 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 5: I noticed she wrote in her wedding day falls on 1117 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,439 Speaker 5: the start of my vacation three days ago. Betty looked 1118 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 5: at me and said, I know you're excited about going 1119 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 5: to Yellowstone in June, and you've been planning it since 1120 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 5: the end of March. But I was hoping you would 1121 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 5: do me a favor and push your trip back so 1122 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 5: I could have my wedding day. I scheduled it for 1123 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 5: the twenty first. I looked at her in disbelief because 1124 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 5: apparently she didn't get the hint the first time. 1125 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so they had rescheduled it. 1126 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 5: Now, Ope, I'm sure that a park with a tent 1127 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 5: is way easier to be scheduled, But I also do 1128 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 5: feel like she could potentially be limited on dates and 1129 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 5: you knew, you did no months in advance this time, 1130 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 5: that it was going to be around that time in June. 1131 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 5: And I know it's once again like okay, but you 1132 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 5: followed the books and you put it in first. But 1133 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 5: if she had rescheduled her wedding and told you the 1134 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 5: time of year down to like roughly when in the 1135 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 5: month it would be, and then you planned your vacation 1136 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 5: for that exact time because you wanted it to be 1137 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 5: a summer punt off, Oh god. 1138 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 3: This is this is just messy. That's so messy. You 1139 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 3: guys just need to not work together. 1140 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like no communication, and when there is communication, 1141 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 2: it's just like I can't do. 1142 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: That, and I can't do that. 1143 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, well, you schedule this and I schedule this, and 1144 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 2: that's just like. 1145 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 5: Like I get it. She's hard to work with. But 1146 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 5: now I'm kind of like, let this girl have her wedding. 1147 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm the same. I'm like, I understand 1148 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 2: you did it by the book, so opie, and like, 1149 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: you know, you're not changing it whatever, Like you know, 1150 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 2: I get being stubborn about it, but at the end 1151 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: of the day, you. 1152 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 3: Know, like it is very hard to very hard to 1153 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 3: plan a. 1154 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 2: Wedding, and plus like dates are very specific. You know, Yes, 1155 00:51:59,560 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 2: I did. 1156 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 5: I have to gather my thoughts because it's clear to 1157 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 5: me she's doing this on purpose. At this point, I 1158 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 5: can't don't know. 1159 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 1: I don't know either. 1160 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 5: I calmly told her, no, We've been down this road 1161 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 5: and I'm not rescheduling anything I've had planned and approved 1162 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 5: on works and for months because you planned poorly. I'll 1163 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 5: also remind you that we have a planner for these 1164 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 5: reasons to schedule around each other's vacation, so nothing overlaps. 1165 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 5: We are both in leadership roles, so when one of 1166 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 5: us is on vacation, the other has to be here. Yeah, 1167 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, she does need to learn that eventually, 1168 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 5: though that's true. Betty stayed silent and I saw her 1169 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 5: face turn red. But instead of giving her the opportunity 1170 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 5: to lie to management again, I went up and said something. 1171 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 5: I showed my boss the planner and our system and 1172 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 5: that this is a problem she doesn't see I made 1173 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 5: it clear, even though it shows one day, expect her 1174 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 5: to call out in the next day or two. I 1175 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 5: will be in Wyoming and will not be willing to 1176 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 5: change anything as this trip is half of my boyfriend's 1177 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 5: big Christmas present. Management confirmed that her day off has 1178 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 5: none and approved and she will need to rearrange the 1179 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 5: day as I got it approved first. 1180 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 3: Betty did look. 1181 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 5: Like she wanted to cry because she's not getting the 1182 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 5: princess treatment she wants, but she also doesn't realize that 1183 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 5: other people have lives too. I do fully expect her 1184 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 5: to call out and leave the department high and dry, 1185 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 5: like she has done many times in the past, especially 1186 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 5: while I'm gone. We will see what happens and we 1187 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 5: have some relevant comments commented. Or what kind of person 1188 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 5: books a venue for a day that they know they 1189 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 5: have to work, Opie says, a local park. She does 1190 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 5: because we all know she's going to call out. But 1191 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 5: what she should know, since she's called the union so 1192 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 5: many times, is making false accusations that if she calls 1193 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 5: out on a denied request, that's grounds for termination. That 1194 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 5: is the end of that story. 1195 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Keon your favorite Filipino here. We're going to 1196 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: get back to the stories. But here's three minutes of 1197 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors. 1198 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: I want to report my manager, but I'm scared of 1199 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 2: the retaliation. 1200 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 5: They're not allowed to do that. 1201 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 2: My boss is a bully, obviously. I thirty three female, 1202 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: work for a popular craft retail store. I genuinely enjoy 1203 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 2: my job and the people I work with, except for 1204 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 2: one person, my boss, fifty ish female. I started this 1205 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 2: job at the end of December twenty twenty four. Before 1206 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 2: I was hired, I was very specific about my availability. 1207 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 3: And it was agreed to without question. 1208 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Useful Afternoon sixty six two, 1209 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 1210 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,879 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay storytime subredd at. I am Savannah, 1211 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm Carly, and we are here to give good advice goofully, 1212 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 2: but we don't have all the answers. 1213 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 3: We would just tell you. 1214 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 2: What we would do in this situation, but we would 1215 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 2: love to know what you would do in the comments. 1216 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: As Op says, right after I started, the guy who 1217 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 2: hired me left for another company. It took them three 1218 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 2: months to get us a new GM. We had a 1219 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: temp manager who had been with the company for years 1220 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: from another store to help us until then. During that time, 1221 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 2: still had the assistant managers and the replenishment manager from 1222 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 2: the original crew of people. While the temp manager was 1223 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 2: a bit aggress and could be bullish, she was good 1224 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 2: at her job and extremely knowledgeable about the company policies 1225 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 2: and procedures. We had a couple of people leave during 1226 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 2: that time because things were a bit chaotic, and like 1227 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 2: I said, she was a bit more aggressive than necessary. 1228 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't that upset about one person because they never 1229 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 2: wanted to work when they were there and had a 1230 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 2: super negative attitude that brought everyone else down. However, the 1231 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: other person was great, worked hard, usually positive, and did 1232 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 2: their best. So the new general managers started and everything 1233 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 2: seemed pretty good at first. She jumped in, worked side 1234 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 2: by side with you, laughed, observed how all the employees 1235 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: were currently, even had a friend she worked with previously 1236 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 2: follow her in. Then one day it was like something 1237 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 2: just snapped suddenly, no one could do anything right. Y'all 1238 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 2: aren't working fast enough, you don't know what you're doing. 1239 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: No one wants to work around here. I have to 1240 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 2: do everything myself. Meanwhile, we have all been staying well 1241 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: after our scheduled shifts, agreed to overnight shifts on top 1242 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 2: of them, and busting our butts, trying our best to 1243 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: get the store where it needs to be. We are 1244 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 2: all looking around at each other, including her friend, like, 1245 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 2: who on earth is she talking about? Because it sure 1246 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 2: as heck ain't this team. It only proceeded to get 1247 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 2: worse from there. She started systematically bully people into leaving. 1248 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 2: Anyone she decided wasn't doing a good enough job, she 1249 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 2: would constantly beerate them until she couldn't take it anymore. 1250 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 2: She would talk about them so and Sel went Scott 1251 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 2: to go. She can't do this job. She never should 1252 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 2: have been given the responsibility if she can't do it 1253 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 2: to other employees, which is completely against HR. Also being 1254 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 2: made aware by multiple people, including the person herself, that. 1255 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 3: She is autistic. WHOA, that is not where I thought 1256 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 3: that was gonna go. 1257 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: I thought that was gonna be like that she is 1258 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 2: mean or something. She is doing her absolute best in 1259 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: trying her very hardest to do what she is asked, 1260 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 2: but doesn't always understand what the GM is wanting her 1261 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 2: to do. It didn't help that the GN changed what 1262 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 2: she wanted every other minute and expected everyone to just know. 1263 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: You gotta love those people. 1264 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 2: When told the girl was autistic and might need extra 1265 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 2: slash more specific instructions to accomplish tasks, she flat out said, 1266 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: I don't care. She should know it's common sense. If 1267 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 2: she can't figure it out by now, then she shouldn't 1268 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 2: have this job and. 1269 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 3: She needs to go. 1270 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's kind of crazy to say, like 1271 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 5: I don't know, girl, Maybe say what you're saying better, 1272 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 5: like yeah, I don't even know. Well then at that point, though, 1273 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 5: I would think that that employee could go report something 1274 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 5: under like the Disability Act kind of being that you 1275 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 5: actually can't say that like I am allowed my accommodations 1276 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 5: of like more time or like needing a second kind 1277 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 5: of thing. 1278 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. 1279 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: She caused this girl to cry on multiple ocasions by 1280 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 2: constantly berating her to the point where she was terrified 1281 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: to even move or ask any questions for clarification on tasks. 1282 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 2: It got to the point that the girl, who was 1283 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 2: part time assistant manager eventually just quit because she couldn't 1284 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: take it anymore. The GM has done this to multiple 1285 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,919 Speaker 2: employees since Unfortunately, some of them were actually really great 1286 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 2: employees who always worked extremely hard and had great positive attitudes. 1287 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 2: Several of them even quit without notice or walked out 1288 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 2: midshift due to her bullying ing. I feel like that's 1289 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 2: like something that needs to like go on record. 1290 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, does management not take note of that 1291 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 5: that multiple people are walk out quitting? 1292 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 1293 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 2: The GM has a habit of telling everyone that if 1294 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 2: they aren't sure about something, then just ask her. But 1295 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 2: when you do ask, she immediately goes off about how 1296 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 2: it is common sense and you shouldn't be having to ask. 1297 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: But if you go ahead and do a task you've 1298 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 2: done multiple times the same way as always, then you've 1299 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 2: done it wrong and you should have asked. Oh god, 1300 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 2: you're danged if you do, and danged if you don't. 1301 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 3: That's horrible. 1302 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 2: Her favorite thing to do is belittle you, but only 1303 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: in front of customers or other employees. We will do 1304 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 2: everything she can to make you feel as incompetent as possible. 1305 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: The GM also refuses to listen to anyone about anything. 1306 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: If you try to tell her there is a problem 1307 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 2: with the system, she says there is not, and the 1308 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 2: employees just aren't doing their jobs. Example, inventory keeps getting 1309 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 2: unlocated or relocated to other areas in the system. I 1310 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 2: have personally gone through two specific departments and fully corrected 1311 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 2: the locations of every overstock item in every spot in 1312 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 2: those departments multiple times. 1313 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: Now. 1314 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 2: Four different managers have witnessed this. Days later, the locations 1315 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 2: are wrong again, usually after the system has been updated overnight. 1316 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 2: I have been telling her this four months. She is 1317 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 2: one hundred percent insistent that there is nothing wrong with 1318 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: the system, and I am just not doing my job 1319 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: for managers that you hired because you bullied. All the 1320 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: others out of the store have witnessed me correcting this 1321 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 2: multiple times, but apparently I'm doing nothing sarcasm. Other examples 1322 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 2: SOP standard operating procedures are not followed. 1323 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 3: I know about us, Shah, we all know about us, sopeasier. 1324 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: If brought to her attention, she says, you're wrong and 1325 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 2: asks who is the manager here. She has berated several 1326 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 2: employees over allowing people with animals in the store that 1327 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 2: are not service animals because we can't do anything about those. 1328 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 2: Her words, not mine. I love animals and service animals 1329 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 2: are fantastic, wonderful, hardworking creatures. She is insistent no animals 1330 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 2: are allowed in the store and has kicked out customers 1331 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 2: over it, even when the animals were leashed and well behaved. 1332 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 2: I came across the sop regarding animals recently. They are 1333 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: actually allowed as long as there is no open food 1334 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: and the animal is well behaved. It even specifically states 1335 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: that if an employee is afraid of them, then have 1336 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 2: another employee assist the customer. If you, in any way 1337 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 2: go against something she wants, then your job is threatened. 1338 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 2: She always has a golden child she uses as an 1339 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 2: example to other employees, usually without that person's knowledge, until 1340 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 2: they make her mad, and then they become a target. 1341 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 5: God, this girl's houts horrible, the worst. 1342 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 2: Hey, I know because at one point it was me 1343 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 2: until I said no to extending my availability. As soon 1344 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 2: as I said no, she said, well, if I have 1345 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 2: to hire someone for these shifts, that's going to cut 1346 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 2: into your hours and that will put you out the door. 1347 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Keep in mind, I was very specific in my availability 1348 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 2: before I was hired. 1349 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 3: That is true. 1350 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 2: She knew that when she started three months after me. 1351 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: I stay late multiple times a week to help, don't 1352 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 2: take breaks, miss lunch. 1353 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Most of the. 1354 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Time, I forget about it when I'm focused on my task. 1355 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Until I start to shake because I need to eat. 1356 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 2: I've never said no to an overnight shift to help out, 1357 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 2: and I build all the holiday village displays because everyone 1358 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: else is afraid of the wiring as well as any 1359 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 2: other displays. I bust my butt at work, but she 1360 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: threatens my job when I refuse to adjust my availability 1361 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,959 Speaker 2: to fill schedule gaps she created by bullying employees until 1362 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 2: they quit. We have had at least three full staff turnovers, 1363 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 2: minus one person me since December. 1364 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 3: Of last year. 1365 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 2: You would think that corporate would notice, but the store 1366 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 2: numbers have gone up so much from us catching up 1367 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 2: on store resets and sales. Because the resets are up 1368 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: today and you can find stuff that They made her 1369 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 2: a part of a manager training team, someone who will 1370 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 2: help train other new store managers when they start. When 1371 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 2: you walk in the store, you know immediately if she 1372 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 2: is there, because the store energy is so heavy and 1373 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 2: all the employees look miserable if. 1374 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 3: She isn't there. 1375 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: Everyone is super upbeat, laughing, having fun and working hard 1376 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 2: because we feel good. Her friend who came with her 1377 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 2: even quit and walked out one day because it was 1378 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 2: so bad. 1379 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 5: I wonder if people coming in for this training program, though, 1380 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 5: will be the ones to kind of start reporting her. Yeah, 1381 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 5: because if she's mean to them, they're just there to train. 1382 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 3: True, it's true. 1383 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope, I hope that happens. 1384 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: Hey, bullies. 1385 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 2: She came back a week later, but still that says something. 1386 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 2: The friend is always trying to keep all of us 1387 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 2: positive and to say. When the GM is on a 1388 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 2: war path, she will tell us to just ignore her 1389 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: and let it roll off because we are doing good. 1390 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 2: They've worked together at other jobs, and apparently it's like 1391 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 2: this at each one, but the GM doesn't seem to 1392 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 2: notice the pattern. We would all love if her friend, 1393 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 2: who is an assistant manager that came with her, took 1394 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: over the GM position. She won't, but we would try 1395 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 2: to get her too, for sure. I've been asked multiple 1396 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 2: times by the DM, the temp GM, the visiting manager 1397 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 2: from the other store, and the other current managers about 1398 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 2: taking a management position, and I've flat out refused. I 1399 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 2: don't want it. I want to work what I agreed 1400 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 2: to and keep doing my outside interests that make me happy. 1401 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 3: Good for you, Opie. 1402 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 2: I genuinely enjoy my other coworkers and the job itself. 1403 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 2: The only problem is her what do we think. 1404 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, she just sounds awful. That's one of those things 1405 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 5: where I do, unfortunately feel like it's gonna take a while, 1406 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 5: but management will notice and kind of see, I don't 1407 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 5: think you should be afraid of retaliation though from reporting this. 1408 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 5: More like what's she gonna do? Just be the same 1409 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 5: level of mean she's already being. Yeah, and like she 1410 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 5: can be really mean. But the more that they hear 1411 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 5: about this, the more likely it is that she gets 1412 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 5: reassigned or like you could get reassigned or something like 1413 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 5: hopefully it'd be her, but like I think that they 1414 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,439 Speaker 5: need to know. Yeah, and she it's not she can't 1415 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 5: fire you for that. See that's illegal. 1416 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and see in this situation, like me personally, I 1417 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 2: have no backbone, and I would be like, I mean, 1418 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 2: I don't like how she's treating it, but like I'm 1419 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 2: doing my work fine, so you know whatever. But it 1420 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: does like suck when you're like trying to you know, 1421 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 2: keep it positive and keep everyone like you know, in 1422 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 2: the loop. And like even if you make friends like 1423 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: during it, then you know, then all of a sudden 1424 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 2: they're gone because they didn't get along with the. 1425 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 3: You know, GM or whatever. 1426 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 2: We had a visiting manager from another store who witnessed 1427 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 2: her treatment of the employees and asked some of us 1428 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 2: about it. We all spilled the tea, the whole pot, 1429 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 2: and most of the cabinet, but not all of it. 1430 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 2: When she asked why none of us had sent anything 1431 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 2: to the district manager on their visits, we all looked 1432 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 2: at her like, are you serious? Can you imagine the 1433 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 2: retaliation she would rain down on all of us if 1434 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 2: they let our names slip. We don't trust them. The 1435 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 2: only time they've asked how things were going with the 1436 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 2: new GM, she was standing. 1437 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:09,479 Speaker 3: Next to them. 1438 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh. 1439 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 2: She made sure we were all aware that there is 1440 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 2: an anonymous number we can call to report her actions. Oh, 1441 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 2: this was a couple of weeks ago. We were all 1442 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 2: skeptical of the anonymous number. I found out on Friday 1443 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 2: that multiple employees, including the other managers and the manager 1444 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 2: who visited us, are planning to use it. 1445 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 3: To report her. 1446 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 2: Would I be an a hole if I did too? 1447 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 1: No? Do it? 1448 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 3: No, do it? 1449 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 5: No, you'd be an a hole to yourself if you didn't. 1450 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That is actually the end