WEBVTT - RHONJ: Is B$tch Better?!

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, we'll be right back after these quick ads.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey rain drops. So today's podcast episode, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a retrospective of the Real Housewives of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>season two, the epic country Club Showdown. Because you guys

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<v Speaker 1>loved the episode in which I gave my retrospective of

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<v Speaker 1>the Real Housewives of Atlanta season six, the epic Pillo

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<v Speaker 1>talk Melee, we should call it that, I felt the

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<v Speaker 1>need to do another one for you guys because y'all

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<v Speaker 1>love that one. I mean, y'all tweeted about it, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>made funny comments about it. So it's nice to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go back down memory lane and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the epic moments in reality television that I

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<v Speaker 1>have been a part of. So on today's episode, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about Yes, country Club Melee, Teresa, Jacqueline, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>Kim G and of course Kim D.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back into what happened season two. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have heart and nauseam me talk about season

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Real housewats on New Jersey about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the table flip. I talked about that with Danielle Stobb,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a very special guest on the podcast, so

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<v Speaker 1>we went down that memory lane. So picking up where

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<v Speaker 1>we left off, let's talk about the start of season two.

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<v Speaker 1>Season one was a huge hit. I mean, Teresa flipped

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<v Speaker 1>the table. It was the talk of the town. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a pop culture phenomenon. It became like this big

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream press opportunity and The Real Housewives of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>was the one to watch. So we knew that season

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<v Speaker 1>two had to be better because my thing is this,

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<v Speaker 1>every season you should try to top the other And

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<v Speaker 1>when I say you, I mean yes, the stars, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the producing team in terms of following the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of what's really happening on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things we knew going into season.

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<v Speaker 1>Two was the fact that Danielle was on an island.

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<v Speaker 2>None of the other women were fucking with.

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle, and that was obvious, okay, And we've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>that before in reality television, where you had an ensemble

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<v Speaker 1>cast but one person was the out cast.

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<v Speaker 2>You've never seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>It usually is a situation to where they at least

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<v Speaker 1>are into great with one person. Like even when Kenya

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<v Speaker 1>was on an island a little bit at least she had,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Candy or Cynthia, or Nini, even Danielle

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<v Speaker 1>was on her own, and we knew that that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very challenging and telling a story about

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<v Speaker 1>a group of friends, your girl friends in Air quotes

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<v Speaker 1>a group of friends who were behind the gates in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. But we had to work with what we

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<v Speaker 1>had right. So with that being said, we knew that

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<v Speaker 1>Dina Manzo was not going to be a full time

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<v Speaker 1>housewife and on a personal note, that devastated me. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Dina. I still love Dina. Dina is a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>person inside and out. She's super spiritual. She taught me

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<v Speaker 1>about meditation. Like I'm not being silly about this, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Dina taught me meditation. She and I both have this

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<v Speaker 1>affection for Oprah when free, like me and Dina have

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<v Speaker 1>very deep, deep, deep conversations. So after season one, Dina

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, I just I can't see

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<v Speaker 1>myself doing another season like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dina also understood, Look, I know that I have

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<v Speaker 1>to take the audience on this journey of why I'm leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm open to doing that. So long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>Dina gave us a commitment of a certain amount of episodes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and in terms of production, we have maybe two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>with Dina before she sort of like rolled off in

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<v Speaker 1>the sunset, right. So with that being said, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that if Dina's leaving the show, that leaves us with

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<v Speaker 1>four housewives, and there's never been just four housewives.

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<v Speaker 2>You need more than that to make a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where Danie I'll say team and air quotes

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<v Speaker 1>came in. So that's how we were introduced to Kim

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<v Speaker 1>G and Kim D because yes, we were looking to

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<v Speaker 1>see who could replace Dina, and quite naturally, since we

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<v Speaker 1>knew that Caroline, Jacqueline Teresa were friends, we knew that

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle needed a friend, and Danielle introduced us to Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>DE and Kim G.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Danielle didn't introduce me to them because, as you

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<v Speaker 1>guys heard on my interview with Danielle, I was banned

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<v Speaker 1>from Danielle's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle was not fucking with your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle felt that I did not have her back during

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<v Speaker 1>season one and when I say have her back, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said this on the podcast, So this isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>any specialty, but Danielle said.

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<v Speaker 2>That while the episodes were airing.

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<v Speaker 1>She obviously was watching these women talk of her and

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<v Speaker 1>the way she didn't know, and she felt that I

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<v Speaker 1>should have checked in on her. And she was mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me, And what that means is she just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it with me. She did not want me to

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<v Speaker 1>be around her. She did not want to see me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I felt bad because I was like, had I

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<v Speaker 1>known you wanted me to check in, I of course

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<v Speaker 1>would have done it. But at the time I was

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<v Speaker 1>working on season two of The Royal House Wilds of Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was too busy working that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>I had to reach out to Danielle to check in

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<v Speaker 1>on her.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not blaming her for that.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I always tell you guys about reality stars

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<v Speaker 1>is they're very sensitive. And I don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to give my life in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have no idea what that feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I never take for granted when one

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<v Speaker 1>of my stars say to me like I need you

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<v Speaker 1>or can you talk to me? I would drop what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing for my reality star if I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're in need. Okay, So I felt bad, But as

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<v Speaker 1>you guys heard on the episode, Danielle said, look, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>over exaggerated. I should have never done that, and she

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<v Speaker 1>regretted it, and me and Danielle are good, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make that very clear. So Danielle introduced to

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<v Speaker 1>her producers Kim D and Kim G, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>so enamored with their personality. I mean, Kim G had

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<v Speaker 1>a connection with Caroline because Kim G's son was best

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Chris Manzo, like best friends, so Caroline and

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<v Speaker 1>Kim G knew each other. But as you saw in

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes of season two, Caroline also just wasn't feeling

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<v Speaker 1>Kim G because if you know Caroline, Caroline is a

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<v Speaker 1>straight shooter and Kim G, who I love, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kim a little whacky in a good way, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>not Caroline's cup of tea. So the idea of bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody who had that connection was interesting to.

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<v Speaker 2>All the producers. So we love Kim G.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim D, who hosts the Posh Fashion Show, is a

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<v Speaker 1>joy to work with. She's super fun and we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this may be two good additions to

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<v Speaker 1>this season and possibly maybe one could be a housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Dina left the show, after she and Danielle

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<v Speaker 1>had that epics show down, that's when we realize, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to really not audition, but really show more

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<v Speaker 1>of the two Kims to really see how much they

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<v Speaker 1>can be integrated into the season. Long story short, when

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Dee had the posh fashion show, we all were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this would be the perfect backdrop to

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<v Speaker 1>where all the girls, all the housewives can be in

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<v Speaker 1>the same room, because up until that point, it did

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<v Speaker 1>not make sense for them to be together because none

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<v Speaker 1>of them wanted to film with each other, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna make great television. You can't do a show

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<v Speaker 1>about these women if they're not interacting with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was very difficult, and I need for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to understand how difficult it is to shoot an

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<v Speaker 1>ensemble show where one person is literally on an island

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<v Speaker 1>by themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the impossible thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And mind you, this was my second year in producing

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<v Speaker 1>reality television, after doing season one of Atlanta and season

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<v Speaker 1>one of New Jersey, and at that time, I completed

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<v Speaker 1>season two of Atlanta, so even I was like, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we able to do this? This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very challenging, But y'all know me. I'm up

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<v Speaker 1>for a challenge. I hate to interrupt me, but stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for more. We'll be right back after these quick asss.

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<v Speaker 1>This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back into the show. The Posh Fashion Show

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<v Speaker 1>was the talk of New Jersey. Okay, no, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like New York fashion and a win tour did not

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<v Speaker 1>show up, guys, But in New Jersey at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>in Franklin Lakes, the Posh Fashion Show was the event

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<v Speaker 1>of New Jersey. So we wanted Caroline to attend. Caroline

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I would never attend Kim D's fashion show.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense. And the one rule that I

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<v Speaker 1>have is follow the reality. Don't make shit up, don't

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<v Speaker 1>fake shit, follow the reality. And then Karen Manso's reality.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, I just would never attend Kim De's

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<v Speaker 1>fashion show. That's Teresa and Jaquale's friend and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense for them to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So Caroline was like, I'm not coming. And one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't do.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's your reality, I'm not going to force anything

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<v Speaker 1>upon you because that's real and you will always get

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<v Speaker 1>the best compelling television when you follow the reality, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's why Caroline did not go. So here we are

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<v Speaker 1>the night of the POJ fashion show. We were all

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<v Speaker 1>nervous because it was a huge deal to know that Danielle, Jacqueline,

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<v Speaker 1>and Teresa were going to see each other for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time this season. So after the fashion show and

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<v Speaker 1>all the brew haha, all the looks and stairs of

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<v Speaker 1>these women being in the same room together, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that look, at the end of the day, y'all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to speak to each other. But we didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how that would happen. And this is when we realized

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa Judais is the force multiplier of this franchise. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing about Teresa, She's going to give you good TV

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<v Speaker 1>because she understands television and she understands real life.

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<v Speaker 2>So she also knew.

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<v Speaker 1>How huge of a deal it was to have her, Jacqueline,

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<v Speaker 1>and Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same room.

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<v Speaker 1>So Teresa walks up to me, because again I was

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa's producer. Danielle kicked me to the curb, so I

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<v Speaker 1>belonged to Teresa, Jacqueline, and Caroline. So Teresa comes up

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<v Speaker 1>to me and she's like, I want to talk to Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, baby, this is why I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I stand this. I mean, I I

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<v Speaker 2>just I just love you.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, but I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>say to her, because she was like, look, I'm not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal. Danielle's here.

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<v Speaker 1>This moment of us being together may not happen ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, I got to talk to her. And

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<v Speaker 1>she said, but I don't know what to say to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said to Teresa Judies, just say hello, just

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<v Speaker 1>say hello, and she said that's it. I said, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you need. Just say hello. And she said

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<v Speaker 1>I can do that. Where is the bitch, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but Danielle's actually in the bathroom. She goes, enough said,

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<v Speaker 1>so there, she goes gets Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta love Teresa. She goes and get Jacqueline.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a like a coffee table and two chairs

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<v Speaker 1>side by side. This coffee table near the bathroom. So

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa and Jacqueline sit in the chairs near the women's

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom and Danielle is in the bathroom with Kim g Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Danielle walks out, that's why Teresa goes hello.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to paint the picture for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So, knowing that this was going to be the first

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<v Speaker 1>time these women saw each other this season, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how this is going to go, like

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, you want them

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and you want to see what they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say to each other because they haven't seen each

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<v Speaker 1>other since season one reunion a lot of months when

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just all this like anxiety going into

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. So I'm sweating bullets, like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>how is this conversation going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's about to happen?

0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So Teresa's like hi, and Danielle gagged because she's like Teresa,

0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the woman who flipped the table is speaking to me,

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<v Speaker 1>okay girl, So you know Teresa's being pleasant, right, like Hi,

0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just want to say hello to you.

0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.480
<v Speaker 1>We're here at this posh passion show. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say hi. And then it just went left after

0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that in terms of you know, Danielle bringing up like, well,

0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you know you did this to me, did that to me?

0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.400
<v Speaker 1>And Teresa said, you know, sweetie, and Danielle's like, gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call me sweetie, and then Teresa says the infamous I

0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to call you sweety o' hag you. Oh

0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.880
<v Speaker 1>bitch is bitch better? It's bitch better.

0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, well this ain't going.

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<v Speaker 1>How I thought it was, but okay, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do what guys follow the reality.

0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:26.520
<v Speaker 2>So Danielle goes, that's a fuck enough. Oh Lord Jesus.

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.880
<v Speaker 1>And one thing you don't do to Teresa Judais is

0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:39.080
<v Speaker 1>cuss at her. So Teresa is wearing her chinchilla that

0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.160
<v Speaker 1>she got from Barbie's Dream House or should I say

0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Jia's House child. It was this beautiful girl, black and

0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>silver chinchilla. She got up on her seat and she

0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.480
<v Speaker 1>started rolling her neck. Now, look, if you are a

0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:03.120
<v Speaker 1>black girl, you know when you roll your neck, always

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.560
<v Speaker 1>about to go down basement, right.

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.919
<v Speaker 2>So then dan Yelle made a comment that I was like,

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.400
<v Speaker 2>yikes on the bikes.

0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.240
<v Speaker 1>So Danielle goes, what's that ghetto shit you're doing?

0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.200
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, Danielle, that's not cute.

0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So then Teresa response was, I'm from Patterson.

0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Did you forget it? Did you forget it?

0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm from Patterson, so I'm from Detroit. I never heard

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of Patterson, New Jersey. But apparently Patterson, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly is the hood.

0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was told child Patterson allegedly, and god,

0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.719
<v Speaker 1>if you're from Patterson, I'm only tell you what I

0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was told. And if it's not the hood, hashtag reality

0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:48.160
<v Speaker 1>with the.

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<v Speaker 2>King and let me know.

0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:53.399
<v Speaker 1>But at the time I was told Patterson was the Hood,

0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:58.360
<v Speaker 1>which is why Danyelle made that comment, and why Teresa goes, yes,

0:17:58.400 --> 0:17:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm from Patterson.

0:17:59.200 --> 0:17:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Did you forget?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when Danielle was like, no, I did not forget, Teresa.

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, we know where you used to live whatever

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.199
<v Speaker 1>before the mansion. And Teresa was like, I live in

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a mansion now, and she goes, yeah, but it's in foreclosure.

0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.399
<v Speaker 1>And Teresa was like, my house isign in foreclosure, bitch

0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and baby.

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:23.960
<v Speaker 2>That's when all hell broke lose.

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<v Speaker 1>So Danielle said, you yelled at me once, you're not

0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.600
<v Speaker 1>going to do it again. And that's when she was

0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:40.560
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by this bodyguard. Not Kevin Costner, he gave more

0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Seawn Spicer tease, Yes, the former Press secretary to the

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>forty fourth President of the United States. So this bodyguard

0:18:55.320 --> 0:19:02.199
<v Speaker 1>who resemble a young Shawn Spicer was holding Danielle. So

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Danielle was walking away and Kim G tried to diffuse

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the situation by holding on to Teresa, and that's when

0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Teresa showed you who Patterson really was and literally pushed

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:28.640
<v Speaker 1>kim G. And the next thing we know, these rich

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:34.439
<v Speaker 1>white women in New Jersey at a country club. No

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>less was running down the hall in their lubatons and

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I never saw anything like this. It was like the

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 1>grown up back Girls Club or the grown up version

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Jersey Shore. And Teresa was giving snooky teas

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:58.359
<v Speaker 1>throughout the night. So she's chasing literally like running down

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the hall in her rid bottoms, and Danielle is running

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:08.639
<v Speaker 1>like she is Whitney Houston from the bodyguard, trying to

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:14.160
<v Speaker 1>find her Kevin Costner like it was a track meet.

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>It gave very Sonya Richard's Ross from Atlanta Housewives tease.

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:22.440
<v Speaker 1>It gave very track star like it was and I

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was trying to catch up. So if you look at

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:31.240
<v Speaker 1>the episode, I'm wearing a Mickey Mouse T shirt, which

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 1>is so ironic because there was nothing Disneyland about this melee.

0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It did not give Disney. It gave very much wwe

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>like it. It was nothing Disney about what was happening.

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to, of course, yes, follow the reality,

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>but also making sure that people are safe. So a

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are holding Teresa back because again they saw.

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 2>What she did a few months ago by flipping.

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>A table, and they knew that Teresa would flip Danielle,

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and nobody wanted that to happen, and Jacqueline was too

0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:16.320
<v Speaker 1>busy running down Danielle's court documents. So the way Jacqueline

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 1>operates is Jacqueline is a student.

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 2>She is a grade A student. She studies, right.

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:29.280
<v Speaker 1>So Jacqueline literally you suspend night and day reading upon

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the court documents about Danielle. So she had that in

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>her brain, so as is Melee was happening, Jacqueline was

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.679
<v Speaker 1>acting like a court reporter, really telling everybody in the

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>hallway what was allegedly.

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 2>In those court documents.

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<v Speaker 1>Little did she know her daughter Athlete was on the

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 1>prowl and when she pulled Danielle's hair, I was like, okay, okay.

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So after Ashley pulled Danielle's hair, it was like, what

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is happening right now? Like all of this

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:14.679
<v Speaker 1>is happening only because Teresa said hello, like it was

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me. But it also goes to show you

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.119
<v Speaker 1>a thing that I always talk about on this podcast

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and when I do press or when I do speaking engagements.

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 1>The reason why we love reality TV so much is

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's a lesson in human behavior. And when you

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 1>bottle so much inkst inside, it doesn't do you any

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>good because when you see the person you're mad at,

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it regurgitates every single thing you're feeling on the inside

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and it just becomes a bigger ordeal. And that is

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 1>what was happening right before my eyes. That whole scene

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>gave me very much The Godfather Part two, three, four,

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>five insects.

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was I wish I could explain to

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys what I was going through.

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Now. Look as a producer, of course, you're like.

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, follow the story, But as a human being, you're like,

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:09.959
<v Speaker 1>how did all of this shit happen?

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Like? What the fuck is going on here? The chaos

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 2>was crazy.

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Those women in Jersey, you think they would have left, honey,

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>They were too busy eating.

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Popcorn, watching television.

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And I love my Jersey women, the Jersey women, baby,

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>they love some drama. They all stood there except as

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>one woman. If you go back and watch the moment

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>all the ladies were running down the country club. You

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 1>would see this blond woman who was so disturbed. She's

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>not a Karen, She's a Catherine. Remember that's a difference

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>between a Karen and a Catherine. She was a Catherine, honey.

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's when she said, this is fucking bullshit, like

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a Catherine. So she was the only one who

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, what in the ghetto gala is going on here?

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 2>In my Winter Voice from Love and Marriage DC, Yes, okay.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>So Danielle goes in the car.

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>She's being held by Sean Spicer, the bodyguard, and Teresa

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>like the terminator, is walking towards the Bentley in her Chinchilla,

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 1>her heels still intact, and the driver, Kim G's driver,

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>is telling Teresa like, come on, baby, you gots like like, girl,

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't think you've done enough, like chill out, and

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Teresa was like, I'm over it.

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm over the bitch.

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's like okay, but you're about to approach a

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Bentley and I can't have you do that.

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, I'm good, I'm cool. I saw

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 2>on my kids. I'm cool. But that's Teresa. I think

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Teresa just had to blow out.

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>The steam and once she did it, she was fine.

0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>And that's when Jacqueline was trying to get Teresa to

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>not walk up to the car, and Jacqueline even stands

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:10.719
<v Speaker 1>in front of the car, which I'm like, is this

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>an intimidating tactic?

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 2>It was? It was.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just so interesting to watch all

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of this unfold because again, guys, we had no idea

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>that all of this was going to happen.

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And that night, truly, truly is when we all.

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Realize this show has a life on its own. And

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the fact that at this time you only had three

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>housewives present Danielle, Jacqueline, and Teresa, and the fact that

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you only had three housewives present and this should happen

0:25:54.080 --> 0:26:00.120
<v Speaker 1>ghost to show you is not about quantity, it's about quality.

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And those three women truly truly are stars in their

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>own right because they have this ability to forget the

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>cameras are there.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>And one thing that I will say, you know.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why Danielle and Teresa were a part

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of my top ten Greatest Housewives of all time because

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 1>to me, they're just they're dynamic to watch and they

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>truly give their all to the show. But I want

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to take a time out to give Jacqueline LaRita an

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>honorable mention. I feel like Jacqueline is super underrated.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Jacqueline is.

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>A sweetheart, but Jacqueline knows how to make great television

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>two and I think a lot of people sleep on her.

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I am a huge fan of Jacqueline, and so is Teresa,

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>which is why Teresa said, please bring Jacqueline back on

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the show. Because one thing about to Esa who yes

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>is the force multiplier. Teresa likes to work with people

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>who makes great television, and without a doubt, Jacqueline makes

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>great TV because Jacqueline is so rooted in her reality

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't know how to be anybody but herself,

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and that, to me is the beauty of her. And

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to know that a woman can stand up against her

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>family and in some cases people will say go against

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:33.719
<v Speaker 1>her family. Jacqueline does that and she does it with

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>such humanity in the sense of in Jacqueline's.

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>World, she believes right is right and wrong is wrong.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not the judge or the jury, but as

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>a producer, you can appreciate a woman who stands alone

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and can say like this is how I feel. And

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>throughout this whole Melee at the country Club. What was

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>so interesting about it is the fact that Jacqueline was

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>laser focused on repeating what she read in these core documents,

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but also chastising her daughter Ashley so much so Ashley said, great, mom,

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you're picking Danielle's side like Jacqueline can identify right from wrong.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>And even throughout season two, Jacqueline, Teresa, who we used

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to call Thelma Luise, they all knew that at the

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, Danielle was great television. And as

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>we were trying to figure out what Season two could become,

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, Caroline, Teresa, and Jacqueline

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>all understood the assignment.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>They really did.

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's why when Caroline was face to face with

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Danielle at the season finale, Caroline knew how big of

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a deal that was going to be. And Caroline also

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>is somebody who is super dynamic, super great because she

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>also knows what makes great television. As long as is

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>rooted in Caroline's reality, she will give you great television.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think Season two of the Real Housewives in

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey and yes, I'm about to say it is

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>probably number two of the greatest seasons of Housewives history.

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Number one will always be The Real Housewives of Atlanta

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Season six.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>You can't top that.

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I would give The Real Housewives of

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey Season two the second best season in the

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>entire history of The Real Housewives is because I don't

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>know any franchise that can give you a spectacular season

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>with just four women.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Four Think about that for a second.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Four women gave an astounding season, and the the fact

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that I had the privilege of watching these women give you,

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>guys a great show means the world to me. But

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>also just knowing that they really did show all of

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you their reality. And because we really and when I

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>say we, I mean all the producers, because the producers,

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we really did not know what to expect from a

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>cast of four housewives.

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I will continue to say four.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Because so many shows honey got subven or a Housewives

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and can't even hold a candle to these four. Okay,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>these four women gave a compelling season.

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<v Speaker 2>There was not one filler episode this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we got Danielle at the Brownstone. That season

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<v Speaker 1>has some of the best producers in the game. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we all worked together to really make sure this season

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<v Speaker 1>was great because we had so much pressure to follow

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<v Speaker 1>the fantastic season one and to be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>that with four housewives.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I'm gonna pat myself on the back

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna pet the other producers on the backs two because

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<v Speaker 1>this season was a collective effort and that goes to

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<v Speaker 1>show you that the relationship between the producers and the

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<v Speaker 1>cavs who are all trying to give you great television

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<v Speaker 1>will equal into a successful season. So as I end

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, I really want you guys to put some

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<v Speaker 1>respect on Caroline, Teresa, Jacqueline, Danielle, and even Dina's sunset

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<v Speaker 1>was epic the way her and Danielle had that one

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<v Speaker 1>on one. Baby, I can watch it all day. Dina

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic television. She's beautiful, she's witty, and the girl

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<v Speaker 1>can read. Those women gave a fabulous season and it's

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<v Speaker 1>time that we give them the respect that they deserve. So,

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<v Speaker 1>rain Drops, I want to hear from you. Do y'all

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<v Speaker 1>agree with me that The Real Housewives of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>Season two is the second best season ever from a

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives franchise, only behind the Real Housewives of Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Season six, which I will always give as the number

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<v Speaker 1>one season in the history of the franchise.

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