1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast would follow Mike Tomlin anywhere. 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Handis and I am joined by 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: some heroes, Dan Hansis and Dan Handsis. What but sorry? 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Well that was that was inventive. Well. Dan complained over 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: text messaging that he was not mentioned early enough in 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the show. Uh, and he sent it where he sees 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: where we're at in our thinking and he said hashtag noted. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to make sure if Dan's listening 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: to today's show that we mentioned him a lot at 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: the top. You've checked that box. I'm happy that Greg 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: is immersed in a book that Mark and I, uh, really, 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: I feel like it's my favorite football book ever. And 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I know you've read it. A Fan's Notes by Fred 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: actually kind of a cult classic, but speaks metaphorically about 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: football in life. It seems like just a classic in general, 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: not a football book. There is that great feeling when 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: you're just starting a book and you can tell quickly 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: that it's gonna be one that you always remember. I 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: don't know. That's a great for a big nerd. That's 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: a great feeling because I can tell this is it's 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a winner. And it was a book from 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: my shelf that I it was the version out of 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: my household that I lent to Greg, so points for 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: my career potentially, there's your bookshelf to your shirt closet. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: It's within a yards distance. All joking aside, we we 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: do miss Dan Hanss But yeah, I like you better. Mark. 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: That's that's fair. Um, let's get into it. We're gonna 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: have a big show today. We're gonna talk a little news, 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna bring in book Bucky Brooks here, 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: our favorite recurring guests, really our only recurring guest right now, 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: but he's coming back. He always brings the heat, and 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a big, juicy conversation about a lot 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: of NFL topics. But in the meantime, gold standard, how 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: you doing? I am doan fantastic Were you okay with that? 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Open the hands is spit? You took you took a 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: risk and I'd say you came out well. You know, 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: we can't just do the same show and fall into 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: the same routine week after week. We gotta shake it up. 40 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: But let's do some new all right. Let's start with 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: the Colin Kaepernick contract. More details have come out since 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: our last show on Wednesday. We learned that sixty one 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed is not really guaranteed. The forty Niners 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: can get out of the contract. That really almost any year, 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: only thirteen million dollars is guaranteed. Uh, they can essentially 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: make the choice after three years if he's not playing well, 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: they'll have only played Colin Kaepernick forty three million dollars 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: at that point. There's a lot of details here. Chris Wessling, 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: what do you make of all the criticism that the 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: contract has gotten now after the fact. Criticism is crazy 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: because it comes at a point and and we have 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: this almost every major contract in the NFL. Everybody weighs 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: in on it before the details come out. And to me, 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: I like to look, I know you do too. You 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: like to look at the three year window. Who's getting 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: paid what in the next three years. Kaepernick's total is 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: forty four point one seven million, which is behind six 58 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks including Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Flacco, Romo and Cutler. 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: So it's not really what everybody said it was on Wednesday, 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: and it's not really guaranteed either. The whole thing with 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: guaranteed money is no matter what happens, you're gonna get 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: that money. If Colin Kaepernick really struggles and Jim Harbaugh 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: goes to another team, or even let's say Kaepernick is 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: it just a disappointment, not really struggling, but he just 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: doesn't fit the new coaches style and he's not playing well. 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: They can get out of the contract very easily in 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: two or three years. And there's this in these years 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: where they can get out of the contract where they 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: only need to decide by April one, which gives the 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: forty Niners really, in terms of offseason planning, a massive 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: window to have a contingency plan to bring someone in 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: to replace Colin Kaepernick down the road if that's what 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: they choose, while leaving Kaepernick completely out in the woods. 74 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: That's where I think that I agree with Wesley that 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: too much is made of all of this. But in 76 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: terms of an agent coming in and really playing a 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: savvy role here, this is the one nugget that kind 78 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: of struck me as odd. Yeah, and I think it 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: we talked about on Wednesday that it was a weird. 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: It was maybe not a weird contract for a guy 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: that was still improving. But this contract makes all the 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: sense in the world to me, and it makes sense 83 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: why Colin Kaepernick uh took it as well, because he's 84 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: confident he's gonna earn that money. Maybe he's not going 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl or be a first team 86 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: All Pro and he needs to do that to make 87 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: some incentives, but he's gonna make plenty of money, and 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: they can always revisit it. And I think all the 89 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: criticism that the agents are taking is mostly overblown because 90 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: it's up to the player and the agent to decide 91 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: what's important to them, and maybe it's not the most 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: important thing to every single player and every single agent 93 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: that you squeeze every last dollar and you get the 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: perfect market value. Maybe Colin Kaepernick's like, hey, eighteen nineteen 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, I have only started a year 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: and a half. I'm okay with that. And it doesn't 97 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: it seem like Kaepernick's the one quarterback at times that 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: can't catch a break for who he actually is and 99 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: what he's done. Why not spin this, Hey, this guy 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe doesn't care about just money over other things. That's 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: exactly the story that no one's saying about Kaepernick gets 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Let's kill the agent, Let's kill everyone else. This is 103 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: a disaster, and it's quite the opposite. I like that 104 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: it gives the forteen Honors a little wiggle room financially 105 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: with Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Mikey Potti, Alex Boone, Alden Smith. 106 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: All these guys either talking about a contract already or 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: we'll need a new contract within the next calendar year. 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Another surprising story that came up on Thursday was from 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins Tight and Jordan read a guy who 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I'll just throw it out there. We've been talking about 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: for our making the Leap series, so you'll have to 112 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: tune in and check to see if he makes it. 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: But he talked about his concussion at the end of 114 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: last year, and he admitted that he had suffered a 115 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: concussion two weeks before the publicized concussion, and he said, 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: I didn't tell nobody when it happened, so when I 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: took a shot to the side of my head against 118 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles, it made it worse. I was in a 119 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: bad spot for a long time. I didn't know if 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: they would ever go away, but I'm past it now. 121 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: He actually talked that this concussion problems lasted for two months. 122 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: He's had four concussions going back to college that we're 123 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: aware of. Is this a big concern for Jordan Read 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: in the Redskins offense. I think it should be a 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: concerned long term. I think the Redskins had to be 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: a little bit leary of that. But I I don't think, like, um, 127 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. For instance, we 128 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: were saying the same things about Shady McCoy at the 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: end of a couple of years ago, and he he 130 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: was still showing symptoms a month and a half two 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: months later. It's like, I agree with that. And in 132 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: terms of Read, there's a very good reason he's in 133 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: making the lead candidate when he's on the field, and 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: if you can get past those problems, the guy has 135 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: the ability to be a star. But you know, he's 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the current embodiment of what old NFL players dealt with 137 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: week after week, where concussions weren't even something that you 138 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: talked about out on the surface and you probably had 139 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: to hide a lot of issues. Well, he is proof 140 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: that the current system is vastly improved. There's so much 141 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: more concussion awareness. I think players come out of the 142 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: games earlier, but there's still a lot of players hiding concussion. 143 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: Is an NFL executive padding Greg on the shoulder right now. 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying that it's not full proof because 145 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: at all, because ultimately a lot of players, I think 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: are hiding concussions because they think it's good for their career. 147 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Reid said that he had a concussion two weeks 148 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: before and he didn't tell anyone, and you know what happened. 149 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later, he suffered another one, and 150 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: he said he started to get a little scared, maybe 151 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be like this forever. But it ended 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: up going away. And that was after two months. So 153 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: he didn't follow the normal protocol. And it's sort of 154 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: on the players to tell their team doctors and everything 155 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: that they're getting the concussions or this type of thing happens. 156 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Moving on to a happier story, let's talk a little 157 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Kristen Michael, another guy that we're thinking about for our 158 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: making the Leap series watch Out for that. We weren't 159 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: sure if he was gonna get enough carries to really 160 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: make the Leap, but some comments made at a Seahawks 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: town hall and no teams had town halls. But what 162 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: is the town hall when when it comes to a team, 163 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: they meet with the fans and the fans have the 164 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of voice their opinion and ask questions 165 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: up front and close. It's smart for winning teams to 166 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: hold this type of event. Why what about losing teams? 167 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: It's you can go awright, you don't want to be 168 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: you don't want to a shoot run up your head? 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: Is it literally held at a town hall, at a 170 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: city hall? Or is it? I think it's just a colloquialism. 171 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Do people go to town hall meetings? You know how 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: they have those things? Do they still have that? Do 173 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: people go to the meeting and they sit and they 174 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: and they make complaints about the community. I have a 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: friend who is a reporter in a different city where 176 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: that is true. He has to walk up and down 177 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: the halls of a town hall that the Wednesday town 178 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: hall meeting or the Thursday town hall meetings on Tybe 179 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: Island get nice and rabbit do you go? Have you 180 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: ever been I made a deal. I've told you guys 181 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: that the mayor of the mayor of Tybee Island is 182 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: a guy I grew up with and was my roommate 183 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: right after when I was delivering mail basically, and when 184 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I moved to Tybee, I had to make a deal 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: with him that I would not get involved in politics 186 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: or attend the town hall meetings. Well, why do I 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: have a feeling those meetings vier away from simply, you know, 188 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: quaint political discussion on type island. Many a wayward soul 189 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: wanders into these meetings gold standard. Have you ever been 190 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: to a town hall meeting? We're really off these But 191 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: I watched the own hall with Pete Carroll today and 192 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: my favorite part was the fact that people didn't even 193 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: have concrete questions prepared. They just really wanted to talk 194 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: to Pete Carroll. So a bunch of hands would go 195 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: up and cheerleaders were going around handing out the microphones 196 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: and someone will get the microphone completely ill prepared, but 197 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: like meeting their here and they were like, um do 198 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: you um is there? Uh? Do you like football like that? 199 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember that time when Richard Sherman batted away 200 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: the ball and then we went to the super Bowl? 201 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: That was awesome? That was awesome. Uh. One of the 202 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: things that Carol did say, By the way, I think 203 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: town hall meetings are going going bye by extinct. I 204 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: can't imagine anyone in our generation ever going to a 205 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: town hall meeting twenty years from now. Is extremely cynical 206 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and probably accurate, Pete Carroll said, and Daryl Bevil, their 207 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, said that this is a team that's going 208 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: to be looking to be a little more running back 209 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: by committee, Kristen Michael getting into the mix taking some 210 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: carries from Marshawn Lynch. Are we buying it? Yes? And 211 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, Because I think that the Seattle 212 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Seahawks or the NFL's version of the San Antonio Spurs, 213 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: they're bold, they're unconventional, they do their own thinking. And 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: now they've reached the portion of their franchise building where 215 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: they can almost count on being a playoff team. And 216 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: whereas the Spurs are the first team in the NBA 217 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: since ninety six not to have anybody play over thirty 218 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: minutes of game, it makes all the sense in the 219 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: world to extend Marshawn Lynch's career and at least make 220 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: sure his legs are fresher in January. So why not 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: get a guy like Kristin Michael, who's vine videos and 222 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: o t a s are starting to look like Pamela 223 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Anderson videos. People are just people are people are just 224 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: dying to get their hands on this guy. Any where 225 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: you're going with this, I feel like Kenny Britts vines 226 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: are a little more like Pamela Anderson videos. No, I 227 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: mean just the quench to have these these videos where 228 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: he's just leaving defenders. They can't even catch him. One 229 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: of the privileges we have where we got to go 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: to Orlando, for instance, and talk to a guy like 231 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: John Schnyder behind the scenes where he was a little 232 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: a little more relaxed. He explained that one of the 233 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: reasons that Kristen Michael saw what was it eight teen 234 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: carries last year was that his game was very incomplete, 235 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of young rookie running backs, where he 236 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: wasn't doing the small things they needed him to do. 237 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: And they one thing they mentioned the last couple of 238 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: days is he's doing those things now his role is 239 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: going to increase. And a lot of people said, oh, 240 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: this sounded like a mechanism to get Marshawn Lynch back 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: into the right And I think that that is actually 242 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: not the case, because there's no real threat of Lynch 243 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: not being a part of this team. They know what 244 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: he can do. Chris is right that this committee is 245 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: the plan, and they picked Michael as an air apparent. 246 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: They love his game and it's not a transitional game 247 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: away from what Lynch does. He gives you more of that. 248 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: Lynch wasn't as good last year. He was still very, 249 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: very very good. Was Yeah. I'm just saying overall, he 250 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: was at a point where you were talking to him 251 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: as maybe the clear number two running back in the NFL. 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Probably wasn't at that level, So why not give some 253 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: love to Kristen Michael. I like the town hall thing, 254 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: if only because it gives Pete Carroll a chance to 255 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: just take a little dig at Jim Harbaugh. Most coaches 256 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: are so afraid to throw shots. And he said Harbaugh, 257 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, he hemmed and hot. He gave a bunch 258 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: of politically correct answers when asked about Harbor, But then 259 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: he said, he's a great coach, and he's a great coach, 260 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: and we love beating him just a little. Why wouldn't 261 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: you beat Yeah, why I wouldn't. I would love to 262 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: beat Jim harbaw he has to be one of the 263 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: most guys that you would love to beat on your 264 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: homework if you do. The best part of all of it, though, 265 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: is that Pete Carroll had like the old man laugh 266 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: at the end of it. He was like, Yeah, that 267 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: was a good one. Uh. So that's the news today, 268 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: and We're gonna keep the news pretty short because I'm 269 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: so excited for our next guest, a former second round 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: draft pick in the NFL, former scout, has worked in 271 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: the front office and we love having him back on 272 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: the show to tell us what he is hearing around 273 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: the league. Let's welcome into the podcast, Bucky Brooks. Great 274 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: to have you back in the studio. And I wanted 275 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: to start talking about something you wrote on the site, 276 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and you you ranked the best duos of wide receivers 277 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL and you put Pierre Garson and Deshan 278 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Jackson number one on that list. I was very surprised 279 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: to hear that, and then actually this this morning, Thursday morning, 280 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: rather on NFL am Garson said, that's our goal to 281 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: be that number one duo to pass alshon, Jeffrey uh 282 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: and Brandon Marshall. So Pierre is on your side. Make 283 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: the case for the Redskins, you know, the thing about 284 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: the risk and is what I was doing. I was 285 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: trying to look at the entire receiver corps, so from 286 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: one to five or how many they have on their squad, 287 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: and so making the case for the Ridskins as opposed 288 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: to the Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears tandem is obviously outstanding. 289 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey Brandon Marshall, a dynamic. Both guys had over 290 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: twelve yards. You have Martellis Bennett who was fantastic in 291 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: the middle as the tight end, but they let Earl 292 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: Bennett go. And you have a guy in Marquis Wilson 293 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: who was an unproven threat. When I looked at the 294 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, the fact that the Sean Jackson Pierre Gusson 295 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: are both outstanding playman because de Sean Jackson we know 296 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: what his big play ability is. Pierre Gusson led the 297 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: league in receptions. And then you had Jordan Reid, who's 298 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: kind of flying under the radar. But this guy sixty 299 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: seven percent of his boss his receptions went for first downs. 300 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: And they signed Andre Roberts not knowing that they would 301 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: get de Shaan Jackson. So you have three starting receivers 302 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: plus the tight end. I think that separates them from 303 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: other people because the depth and diversity and all the 304 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle compliment one another, which I think 305 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: is essential to a good passing end. So you would 306 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: give the best duo, maybe do another team, but the 307 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: best group to the red complete group. I think the 308 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Washington ri Let's think Andre Roberts flies under the national radar, 309 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: but Bucky will probably tell you he's excellent after the catch. 310 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: You know. I mean, so, now, man, three of those 311 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: guys are excellent after the catch. I'm really excited to 312 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: see what Jake and he says something yesterday I thought 313 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: that was really outstanding. In his press conference, he talked about, 314 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: we won't have an offense that has the ability to 315 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: run counter to anything that the defense does. So we 316 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: can give you his own read with Robert Griffin. We 317 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: have the ability to run the ball powerfully with Alfred Morris, 318 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: and now we have this receiving corps where we can 319 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: do any number of things in the passing game with 320 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: John Jackson being able to stretch the field vertically, Pierre 321 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Gossan being able to do bubble screens and underneath stuff, 322 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: and Andre Roberts being a talented raw runner plus I 323 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: mean Jordan Read in the middle. They just have a 324 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: lot of weapons. Can he get it all done in 325 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: terms of calling the plays and managing the game. That's tough, 326 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: but I think I like the weapons that they have. 327 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the best thing for Gruden is he goes 328 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: from Andy Dalton to Robert Griffin three. I mean, I 329 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: think that is a quarterback you can do everything with. 330 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: With DeShawn Jackson though, are those numbers last season? Is 331 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: that a product of chip Kelly's offense to some degree? 332 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Can you expect him to come in and duplicate that well? 333 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think obviously some of it is inflated 334 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: by the way that Chip Kelly used them. But when 335 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: you look back in six years, he has thirty five 336 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: receptions over forty yards and more, which is crazy production 337 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: for a big play receiver. And now putting them in 338 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: Washington where you have Alfred Morris so you have to 339 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: commit an extra guy to the box. He's probably going 340 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: to see more one on one coverage than he's seen 341 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: during his time because before when he was in Philadelphia 342 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: with Andy Reid and he wasn't committed to running the 343 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: ball enough to really force people to have to respect 344 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: the run with Shadie McCoy. Now he goes to a 345 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: situation where they have the ability to line up and 346 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: really make you respect the run without for Morris and 347 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: so because that he will see the one on one 348 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: coverage that he lives for. And even though he's a 349 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: smaller gun of people who walk up and press, all 350 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: he has to do is slipper once or twice. In 351 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: those are big games. He may not catch as many passes, 352 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: but I think his career average has always been around 353 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: that sixteen to seventeen yard mark. He would have that 354 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of production in Washington. Is Jake root In an 355 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: upgrade from Kyle Shanahan To meet Jake Gordon's a little 356 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: bit of a mystery. I think he has a mystery, 357 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: and I think you could really knock him in terms 358 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: of his ability to call players because I wasn't overly 359 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: impressed with what he did Sincinnat I felt like he 360 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: underachieved based on the talent that they had. But I 361 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: think sometimes you fall into a situation that's too good 362 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: to mess up. I don't think he can mess it up. 363 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: He has a quarterback that is a duel three. He 364 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: has a big running back, and now from Mores he 365 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: has three wide receivers we've talked about. I mean, if 366 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: they can find a way to cobble up protections just 367 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: to keep Robert Griffin upright, I don't know how you 368 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: can mess it up from a plate Hola standpoints huge 369 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: Jackson and upgrade from j Yeah, huge, Yeah. I think 370 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: we've got I've got two counters for your Redskins have 371 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: the best group argument. Alright, alright, Green Bay. You got 372 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, you got Randall Cobb, you got Jared Boykin, 373 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: you got their second round draft pick, Davante Adam. Davante 374 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: Adams slipped out of my mind. There that group. Maybe 375 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna add Ja Michael him. You don't quite have 376 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the tight tight end right now. That's a pretty strong 377 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: group right there. And then you go to Denver's another 378 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: one you at least have to look at, right, Marius Thomas, 379 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: Wes Welker, Uh, Emmanuel Sanders there, Julius Thomas Latimer, Julius 380 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Thomas Cody Latimer. I like that. I put I ringed 381 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: them third. Here here's the problem with the Denver Broncos 382 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: in terms of like putting them one. Marius Thomas is 383 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: in his prime. He is a guy that is a stud. 384 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: West Welker is on the back side of his career, 385 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: and I would say that his production is slipping, and 386 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: at thirty three years old, I don't know how much 387 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: he really scares people. The system that paid Manning run 388 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: really over whims and overshadows what the wide receivers do. 389 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Because you talked about Eric Decker having their production everywhere 390 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: that paid Manny has been Blair white Hair production when 391 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: he was there most in college, Anthony Gonzalez everyone, So 392 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: in terms of just the pure talent, I don't think 393 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: those guys ring and with the Green Bay Packers. I 394 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: like Jordy Nelson, But if we were sitting out and 395 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: about to go play pick up, I don't know if 396 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: I would pick Jordan's Jordy Nelson over to Sean Jackson's debt, 397 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: whether I would take him over Pierre Garsan, But I 398 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: think that Sean Jackson when you look at the consistency 399 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: and the track record, I'm just I'm a Djacks fan 400 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: over Jordana. Nothing taking Jordy over anybody on the Redskins. 401 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: Does this playground have a sideline, because if you need 402 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: to catch the ball, on the sidelines, I thought offering, 403 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: but then even outside of it, like like Randall Cobb 404 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: hasn't had a thousand yards season, he wouldn't be good 405 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: on the playground now, he wouldn't be good on the playground. 406 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: He's a do it all playmaker. I mean, boy can 407 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: I can't even really talk about it until I see 408 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: more consistency, and then you know, the tide in situation 409 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: is in flux because we don't know if your Michael 410 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: Finley is coming back. Well, I hate to disagree with 411 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: our you know, honored guest here, but I'm gonna take 412 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: the Packers out of that group. Are you taking the Packers, 413 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: Redskins or the Broncos. I think it's it's on paper 414 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: at this point, I go, I go Redskins. I think 415 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: that's a strong group. I can't take the Packers if 416 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: they don't have Jamichael Finley. No, I can't do that. Um, 417 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: I would probably take the Broncos. Yeah, that might be 418 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: the safest pick. The Redskins do have some injury concerned. 419 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Is one of those tours the quarterback doesn't come included, 420 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: So then we're just talking about trotting it out. So 421 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: if we tried it out the Packers receiving corps and 422 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: we had Andy Dalton that quarterback. Do we feel good 423 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: about that team? Here's what maybe we should talk about 424 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals wide receiver corps. Greg assigned to Marvin Jones 425 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: tape last night. He was a good player. He was 426 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: a good player, Kale and I don't know how he's 427 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: the fifth round pick, but he was talked to you right, Yeah, 428 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: he was one of my guys. Does does he talk 429 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: about Marvin Jones like a bigger role for him this year? 430 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: You know? I think with with Hugh Jackson, here's what 431 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: he does. He kind of pokes the bear with every 432 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: receiver there. He's gonna tell them guys privately, you're the guy, 433 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: you can be my number one guy. He did it 434 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: with Denarius Moore with the Oakland Raiders. He builds those 435 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: guys up like they feel like they're superheroes. What he's 436 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: going to do is create a very competitive environment outside 437 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: of a green where those guys scratch and claude to 438 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: get the football thrown their way. But what he's going 439 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: to do to really help those guys, they're gonna run 440 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: the ball differently than they've ever done before in terms 441 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: of being a powerful football team. If you go back 442 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: and look at the way the Raiders ran the football 443 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: when he was the offensive coordinate and the head coach. 444 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: Always a top ten running game. And so anytime you're 445 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: able to run the football effectively like that, he's really 446 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: going to make the game very easy for Andy Dawn 447 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: to have success be consequently those guys on the outside 448 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: to have success. Alright. So no no consensus here on 449 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: the best receiver group. That's all right. Uh, let's talk 450 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: Let's switch to defense. Let's talk about Greg Williams, who 451 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: is a guy that's relatively bit under the radar, considering 452 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: what a spotlight he was under after the Bounty Gates scandal, 453 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: and people said he would never return to the league. 454 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: And now he's back in the league because he's got 455 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: a good buddy and Jeff Fisher, and because he's a 456 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: good coach on defense, he's certainly got a lot of 457 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: talent to work with. What do you expect his impact 458 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: to be on that Rams defense? I think you have 459 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: a significant impact. This is the most talented team that 460 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: he has taken over. From a defensive standpoint, he has 461 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: never been given this much talent upfront and in the 462 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: back end to do what he likes to do. So 463 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: understand he's a disciple of Buddy Ryan Mean. He wants 464 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: to heat it up, he wants to bring pressure, he 465 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: wants to do a lot of blisses because he wants 466 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: to really make the quarterback feel the heat. And so 467 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: last year the Ramps had fifty three sacks, forty six 468 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: of those came from that defensive line. They did a 469 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: lot of four man pressures and really relied on those 470 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: guys to get it done well. Greg Williams wants to 471 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: dial it up and bring pressure. And the thing that 472 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: I've learned about people that blisses, you're not necessarily blissing 473 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: to get the bliss at home, but you're blessing to 474 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: make sure that your best guys get one on one situations. 475 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: So with Robert Quinn and Chris Longs and Aaron Donald 476 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: and Michael Brocker's, you're nelsen an extra body so those 477 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: guys can win one on one. And the fact that 478 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn has been able to second quarterback nineteen times 479 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: last year without having that, I think it'd be scary 480 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: for people in the NFC West. And with Greg Williams, 481 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: one common denominate. He's always had. He's always had a 482 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: dynamic safety that out would never be t J McDonald. 483 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: T J McDonald was good enough. You know, they gave 484 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: him a little bit of that road. He blessed him 485 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: a little bit. Last year. He had a sack, he 486 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: had an interception. He can do a little bit of everything. 487 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: But more importantly, he's a physical guy. And his best 488 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: defenses the Shawan Taylor's the blame Bishops. Even in New 489 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: Orleans when he has Sharper and Roman Harper, those safeties 490 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: are always incorporated into the mix. Not only is Blisses, 491 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: but in the run game and also in terms of 492 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: sending those remember me shots over the middle field. T 493 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: J McDonald can do that. Greg Williams is the guy, 494 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: You're right, hasn't always had the greatest talent, and this 495 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: group is about as talented as any in the league. 496 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Is this the most talented defense in that division? Wow? 497 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: This Seahawks, I mean that is what This might be 498 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: the best defensive division. The Cardinals have fallen off, you know, 499 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, you know, from top to bottom that 500 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: front seven is as good as anybody. And then when 501 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you look at it back and I like their two 502 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: corners yours, Jenkins Tremaine Johnson is underrated. Uh yeah, t 503 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: J mcdonal them in the middle. Gosh, I wish they 504 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: had a free safety that are really what do you 505 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: think about? I like LaMarcus Joining. He's also if you 506 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: think about Honey Badger, he can do some of those 507 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: Honey Badger like things. Bliss. He had five and half 508 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: sackses last year in Florida State. They have a lot 509 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: of talent. I think you can make that argument that 510 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: they're right up there. They may be the best, because 511 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: I think San Francisco has falling back to the pack 512 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I think Seattle is just so unique. 513 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: But from a talent perspective. St. Louis has a lot 514 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: up front. Do you think that Shaks is more coaching 515 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: them up a little bit in the system? In the 516 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: in the Rams might have a little more talent. I 517 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: think the Rams may have more talent. I think those 518 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: guys in Seattle absolutely believe in the system. They've done 519 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: a great job of simplifying and developing those guys. But 520 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: you really look at that defense, you're dealing with a 521 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: lot of late round draft picks, and that doesn't always 522 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: mean something. But when we're picking them off the playground 523 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: and you're talking about I wanted more talented guys, the St. 524 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: Louis Rams are probably more talented in most areas of 525 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: that defense. One one thing with St. Louis it's tough 526 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: to get overly excited about the overall operation because of 527 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. For me, Wesley and 528 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: made the point in print yesterday that what was it 529 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: their doomed to media, to mediocrity as long as they 530 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: have Sam Branford that quarterback. Do you know they've got 531 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. And it's some of us we've talked about 532 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: it here that we feel like, potentially it's Schottenheimer's philosophy 533 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: that's maybe holding guys like Tavon Austin and others back 534 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. What what is your take on what's 535 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: going on on that side of the ball. I kind 536 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: of fall right right in line with you, guys. I 537 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: do wonder if Brian Schottenheimer is creative enough to maximize 538 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: what they have on offense. I know there was a 539 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: lot of conversation about the guys need a receiver, they 540 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: need to go and get a Sammy Watkins. If somebody 541 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: to juice it up. But eight, I mean the eighth 542 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. You're expecting Tavon Austin to be 543 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: a difference maker. So now the owners really falls on 544 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer the show that he has the ability to 545 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: craft game plans to maximize the talent. We can say 546 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: whatever we want to about Jim Harbor and what the 547 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine is due. They're proven that Greg 548 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: Roman is creative enough to create play opportunities Arizona. We 549 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: know what Bruce arians does, what he did with Carson 550 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: Palma last year, what he's done traditionally with his offenses. 551 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer has to step his game up and show 552 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: that he has the ability to craft game plans to 553 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: not only make Sam Bradford look good, but to generate 554 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: enough points to compete in a tough NFC West. They've 555 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: pumped a lot of resources into that wide receiver Cord 556 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: Jared Cook got a monster contract. All of their wide 557 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: receivers Brian Quick, Givings, Stepan Bailey, Pattis, these guys are 558 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: all second third round draft picks. Yeah, I mean it's 559 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: time for those guys to grow up and look. Ultimately 560 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 1: we will judge them by the way their quarterback plays, 561 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: but the way the quarterback plays will be determined on 562 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: how Brian schottenhammer crafts are the round. He should sit 563 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: down with Sam Bradford and figure out what he does 564 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: really well and make sure that he does that over 565 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: and over and over again. That's what the great play 566 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: callers do. They take the stress of the quarterback and 567 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: they find a way to recycle those same concepts over 568 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: and over again by giving you window dressing with formations 569 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: and motions. I feel better now. I was feeling guilty 570 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: for a while that week of you know, just to 571 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: the entire Schottenheimer family that we've unfairly disparaged him for 572 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: months in the studio. But now Bucky says, it's cool. 573 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: I played for and Brian, and Brian was always around 574 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: the program, and Brian uh coach in San Diego. He 575 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: did some stuff at SC so he's been exposed to 576 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and he was, you know, obviously 577 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: the right here. I know, but I'll come at him 578 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: because I completely believed that in New York he killed him. 579 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: I believe the Jets had a team that was worthy 580 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: of being a team that could go further than they did, 581 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: but offensively, he never figured out how to maximize what 582 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Marx Hanchees was or what he was and he asked 583 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: him to do too much. Part of being a good 584 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: coordinators understanding clearly what your guy can do and only 585 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: put him in a situation where he's asked. So we 586 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: should almost be thankful as football fans that Robert Griffin 587 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: three and Mandell didn't wind up in St. Louis. Yeah, 588 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: because I wonder, I mean, I don't know, like the 589 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: nickname for r G three by the way, sorry three 590 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: the Yeah, because it takes it takes a creative mind. 591 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: It takes someone that can think outside the box. And 592 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: he's very tired and rigid to the West Coast system. 593 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: But also understand he learned it from Paul Hackett, and 594 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Paul Hackett is a guy that has experienced in the 595 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: West Coast, but he doesn't strike you as a creative, 596 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: innovative mind when he comes to drawing up plays and 597 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: trying to create these game plans. So for Brian it's 598 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: a challenge to think outside of the box. And also 599 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: he also said at the dinner table every night with 600 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: his dad, who was like, like, we're gonna run it 601 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: and turn it over and find a way that that 602 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of seeps into your thinking. It's interesting that you 603 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: mentioned asking Mark Sanchez to do too much because in 604 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: the book Collision Low Crossers, which is about the two 605 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: thousand eleven Jet season, it's funny during the lockout the Rex, 606 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Ryan invites John Gruden in to talk to the coaches 607 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: and he got all over Brian Schottenheimer whore him out, said, 608 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: defend your point. Why you asking Sanchez to do all 609 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: this exact It's funny because I had that conversation with 610 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: a coach on their staff about how they always brought 611 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: coaches in to try and help him. They had not 612 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: only John Gruten come in, they had Tom Moore come in. 613 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: They tried to really show him how to call the game, 614 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: how to structure game, all those things. And there's an 615 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: art to play call. And we always talk about how 616 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: the best play callers kind of have a stone cold mentality. 617 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: When you watch this New Orleans Saints play, Sean Payne 618 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: would go off to grid to dial it up, to 619 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: find a way to create a big play. Mike McCarthy, 620 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: to me, is one of the best play callers I've 621 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: seen in terms of the way that he attacks the 622 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: game from that standpoint, Ron Schottenheimer has to understand how 623 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: to set the table so that he can create those 624 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: counterplays to what they do in a game plan. That's 625 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: what Gary Kubiak has done. That's why they're able to 626 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: create those big plays in the offense. I think Bucky's 627 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: gott a You got a great opportunity to write eight 628 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com play Caller power ranking. I would say 629 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: the Shottenheimer Shotenheimer family sho not read that. That's happened here. 630 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: Something weird with with sons and families in that organization. 631 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: You got Schottenheimer, You had Blake Williams running the defense 632 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: last year, right basically Greg Williams son. I'm not sure 633 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: what was going on there while he was suspended. You know, 634 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: just just hire some new blood in the NFL. So 635 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: we uh we we like to shine a light not 636 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: just on the big time teams like the Cowboys and 637 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: all that, but talk about some teams like the Rams 638 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: and the Chargers too. They haven't gotten a lot of 639 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: attention this offseason, but they're having a change in their offense. 640 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: No more. Ken wizzen Hunt, what are you looking for 641 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: from the Chargers offense and Frank Reich this year. So 642 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: I made to ride down the fore or five to 643 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: go to their first h O T A. And you know, surprisingly, 644 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: when I got there, they were very organized and I 645 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: really don't know why was that surprising? Well, I was. 646 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: I was just I was just surprised that they were 647 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: as sophisticated as they were. The first day of watching them, 648 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: the entire practice they ran no huddle. Philip Rivers was 649 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: in complete control of that offense, and I noticed because 650 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: I looked back, I was like, Oh, Frank Reich is 651 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: is running the offense. So Frank and I played together 652 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and really quickly in practice I noticed that 653 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: some of the k gun principles were in play, some 654 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: of the smash routes, some of the level concepts that 655 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: you saw Buffalo run way back in the early nineties. 656 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: They're running. But those same concepts were also a key 657 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: part of what Indianapolis did for years, and because Reike 658 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time up there working with Peyton 659 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Manning and doing some of that no huddle stuff, that 660 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: was very simple, but it was very uh, I guess 661 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: an intention to really execution. I think they're going to 662 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: give Philip rivers more leeway than he's ever had, and 663 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: they're going to trust him to get it done running 664 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: that no huddle system. I think you'll see them play 665 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: at the pace that we haven't seen them play at, 666 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: and I think they're ramping up and there'd be far 667 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: more exciting than we used to seeing the charges in 668 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: terms of the passing Act. While you're here, we have 669 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: to ask you something. We've been debating Ladarius Green. We 670 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: love his talent, but I guess we're debating like, is 671 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: he gonna be a six hundred yard receiver or if 672 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: he breaks out, could it be an eight or nine hundred? 673 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Could he actually overtake Antonio Gates and production? You know, gosh, 674 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: what's so tough is because Antonio Gates wasn't there. He's 675 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: the veteran, he's established. But at some point you have 676 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: to kind of pass the torch. I think Ladarius Green 677 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: is ready to be the guy that assumes it. The 678 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: key will be will they use twelve first? Now? Will 679 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: they use one back two tight ends? Some? How much 680 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: would they use that? And how comfortable are they with 681 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: trusting Ladarius Green to be the key playmaker between the hashes. 682 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: When you look at that team in the way it's constructed. 683 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: You have Keenan Allen on the outside. They're trying to 684 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: get Malcolm Floyd back, you have Vincent Brown. You really 685 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: don't have a proven commodity outside of what I'll say 686 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: is Keenan Allen. So maybe they go with two tight 687 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: ends early in the year, see how it works, and 688 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: then eventually maybe Ladarius Green takes it off. Well, you're 689 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: talking about this hurry up offense. That means more plays, 690 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: that means more stats. Plus he can't have an old 691 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: thirty four year old Antonio Gates running up and down. 692 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: That's a good point. They want them to be the 693 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: Shaquila and Neil waiting for him to come back on 694 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: offense when you're trying to fast break. This is getting 695 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: stuff breaking some news on the fast break charges often 696 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: because that's a change from last year. And well, you 697 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: know last year they were so run heavy down the 698 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: stretch and it's I think that's what paved the way 699 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: for them to sneak into the playoffs. And that Broncos 700 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: game and that night game was interesting the way they 701 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: attacked them. But also a guy like Danny Wood had 702 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: fits so well into Whiz and Hunts offense. We saw 703 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: him go get X from a cluster and tennessee what 704 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: happens to some of those roles. Is it gonna all change? No, 705 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: I think those roles fit well. I think the big 706 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: thing is they also got Donald Brown and so understand, 707 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: Frank comes from Frank Bright spent a lot of time 708 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and so if you think about how the 709 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts offense ran when Paidman was really doing it, 710 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: the running back was like a secondary option. They ran 711 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: the football, but they were never like this rough and rugged. 712 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna grinded and pounded. It was to supplement what 713 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback did. I think changed from their last six 714 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: weeks of last year when Ryan Manthew was getting the 715 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: ball thirty times again and he may still get it 716 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: because here here's what you have. You have different philosophy. 717 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: Because Mike McCoy was with me in Carolina under John 718 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: Fox and the way that we were in the ball 719 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: there and went to the Super Bowl. We pounded, pounded, pounded, pounded. 720 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: I think it really depends on each week what they 721 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: see the weaknesses of the defense are. And really, like Nanna, 722 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: we've seen Philip Rivers kind of go back to the 723 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: good Philip Rivers. Maybe they now have a more trust 724 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: in terms of let's let Philip Rivers do his deal. 725 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: He's an older guy, Let's give it to him, allow 726 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: him to throw. There seems to be a philosophy and 727 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: all of these offenses you're talking about is the new 728 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: thing in the NFL. We saw how many resources the 729 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: forty Niners are put into the passing game. Now they 730 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: got Stevie Johnson. They're a run heavy offense. But it's 731 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: a new thing you mentioned. You want to be able 732 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: to have your offense be able to counter every single 733 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: thing the defense does. So you can't be just run 734 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: heavy or just pass heavy. It's all situation on that. Yeah. Absolutely, 735 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: you want to be able to be balanced. Um. I 736 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: think the old philosophy they always talk about is you 737 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: have to throw the score or run to win. You 738 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: have to be able to run the football when people 739 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: know that you're running the football. You also want to 740 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: be able to run the football because it gives your 741 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: team a grit, a toughness that it needs to be 742 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: able to win in December, in January when you get 743 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: the playoff football and the game kind of changes and 744 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: slows down. But ultimately the way the league, the league 745 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: rules are, you want to open it up and really 746 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: put it to those big bodies on the outside because 747 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: you're basically playing basketball on grass. You miss a tackle 748 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: here there, you create those big plays. So when you 749 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: talk about San Francisco going and getting all of those 750 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: wide receivers, those guys that can win those one on 751 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: one matchups, you're now saying that Colin Kaepernick is ready 752 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: to advance his game. So let's make sure we have 753 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: enough weapons on the outside where we can build a 754 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: passing game that allows him to play to his strength. Well, 755 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned Kaepernick. We've already discussed the Kaepernick contract and 756 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: all the details and you know where the guarantees are. 757 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: What was your thoughts when you heard about the Kaepernick 758 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: You know, I think I think it's I think it's 759 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: a good deal for both sides. And I know some 760 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: people kind of take them tests like, oh, well, he 761 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: doesn't have all those guarantees. But I think the one 762 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: thing that I've learned and looking at de Rell Reevers 763 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: the ask couple of years, it's okay cashing fifteen million 764 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: dollar checks every year and earning your key, particularly while 765 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: you go for Colin Kaepernick, he gets an opportunity. Maybe 766 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: if they don't like, he gets to go back to 767 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: the table and they have to re up. And we 768 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: know that the money always goes up, it doesn't come 769 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: down every him. He's a young guy, he's a guy 770 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: who has really done great things outside of when he's 771 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: had to play Seattle. Then now they're trusting him to 772 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: be able to be the man. And so if he 773 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: has an opportunity with those receivers to really advance his 774 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: game as a pass and really show people that he's 775 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: more than his dual threat running that people are pegging 776 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: them to be. I think he could be a dangerous thing. 777 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: And I think he is really the future of the 778 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: league at the quarterback position. In terms of this, when 779 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: you look at the high school game, in the college game, 780 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: all these guys that's you know, on Friday nights and 781 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoons are guys who are mobile, who are athletic 782 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: enough to make plays with their feet, but also have 783 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: the wherewithal to make plays from the pocket. Colin Kaepernick 784 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: did it. He's one to own a couple of guys. 785 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: I want to say an n C double A history 786 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: ten thousand passion yards four thousand rush of yards. He's 787 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: a unique specimen and unique athlete, and as they expand 788 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: their playbook, I think we'll have a great appreciation for 789 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: what he does. It may not be reflected in the numbers, 790 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 1: per say, he may not be a three yard past 791 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: each week, but he's so dangerous that he makes it 792 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: really tough for defense to the game plan for him. 793 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: If you're working Friday and Saturday watching games, and Sunday 794 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: of course when you get some time off here in 795 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: this football all the time, I mean, you gotta you 796 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: gotta know, you gotta know what's coming high school college 797 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, are there any more pocket just 798 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: stationary Drew Bledsoe, Peyton Manning looking guys that are stuck 799 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: in stace? Are they all just got Everyone always like, oh, 800 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: this guy is surprisingly athletic, or he's athletic. Well, if 801 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: they're all athletic, that's not surprising anymore. You don't have 802 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: to tell me that he's surprisingly athletic. I expect him 803 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: to be athletics. Well, I think I think what we 804 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: have to do is get past the traditional view of 805 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: what we envision our quarterback man, because for so long 806 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: we saw Dan Marino and Jim Kelly and those guys 807 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: as our our court pocket quarterback guy who was that's 808 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. That's what he looks like. But the 809 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: game is changing. Like when people talk about Andrew Lucky, 810 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: always overlook his athleticism and how much he ran the 811 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: ball at Stanford. He is, in essence like the new 812 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: school quarterback. He's a guy that if we asked him, 813 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: we put him in, watched his offense, and asked him 814 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: to run his own read, he absolutely could do it. 815 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: You don't want to expose them to those kind of 816 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: hiss but he's capable of doing it. I've always been 817 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: taught in the West Coast offense that you want an 818 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: athletic quarterback, from Steve Young to Brett Ford to all 819 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that I was running that system, rich Gannon 820 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. All those guys could extend plays because 821 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: when you go through your progressions one to three and four, 822 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: if it breaks down, you have a quarterback that can 823 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: still get you a four yard game stand ahead of 824 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 1: the change. Bill Walsh always talks about climbing in the pocket, 825 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: trying to minimize the negative yards. That's what those athletic 826 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks do. But you can't be a guy that 827 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: is run heavy, run only. You have to be able 828 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: to throw from the pocket. But anytime you can run 829 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: the ball, it creates problems for the defense. Before we 830 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: let you go, let's get your thoughts on the revamped 831 00:39:53,880 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: Steelers defense. Just team of a t L. I'm campaigning 832 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: for it. No, well, we're holding a competition. None of 833 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: the teams are aware of this, but we're gonna Last 834 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: year we chose around week five six, we decided the 835 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers were gonna be the team of around and league. 836 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: We were in early on that before they really ran out. 837 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: That's the team we're gonna root for as a group 838 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: this year. It's now back up in the competition. We're 839 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: gonna choose a new team most likely, and uh, you 840 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: know it has to be unanimous and in West. He 841 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: likes the Steelers as an as mancho would say, I'm 842 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: standing on the table for the It's not a bad team. 843 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: We're banging on it. We're standing on it. They finally 844 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: have flipped the ruster where they're now young and athletic 845 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: at linebacker. It took them a while to get to 846 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: the point where they were able to have these young 847 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: athletic guys. You have Jarvis Jones, who was the second 848 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: year player who should be more productive. You have worlds 849 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: coming off. On the other edge, you have Lawrence Timmons, 850 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: who we still want to consider me, you know, but 851 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: he's eight years in the league. But the guy that 852 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: they drafted, Runch is here is a carbon copy of 853 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: Lawrence Timmans. So now what you have. You have four 854 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: guys in that linebacker corps. They have the ability to 855 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: rush the passer. And so when you think about Dick 856 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: Leabo and the way that he wants to dialog, that 857 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: old Blitzburg package and all the stunts and games they 858 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: want to run, they now have four guys in the 859 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: second level that can do that. And when Mike Mitchell 860 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: coming over from Carolina, I was one of the ones 861 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: that last when the Oakland Raiders took him because he 862 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: was an unknown player from Ohio, Al Davis takes and 863 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: puts him in the lineup. He goes to Carolina and 864 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: he kind of shows up and makes place. They did 865 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: a lot of blessing with Mike Mitchell back in the 866 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: day with Carolina. I believe he will be the new 867 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: Troy Palomalo in terms of the way that they use him. 868 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: Watch him near the box, watch him coming down, making 869 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: big hits in the passing game, and maybe Troy goes 870 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: to the deep middle and doesn't play the role that 871 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: he customarily played. If you're Johnny Manziel and you win 872 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: that quarterback competition and your week one start is against 873 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: that defense in Pittsburgh, could you possibly have drawn a 874 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: worst scenario for a rookie quarterback to deal with? Oh, 875 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: it's absolutely night marriage for young quarterback because one there, 876 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: three or four team. You never know which guys are 877 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: alive in terms of coming and part of the success 878 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: that still has had back in the day because they're 879 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: wanted a few three four teams. So when they were 880 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: bringing pressure, you had a tough time figuring out how 881 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: are you going to block it for their week. So 882 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: for Johnny Manziel, who was maybe not used to making checks, 883 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: making hot calls, see inside adjustments, it's a lot to 884 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: process in that first game. If he's a quarterback, I 885 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: always spect to see a lot of bent, take a 886 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: lot of Terrance West, and then putting a lot on 887 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: fourth down because I can't imagine them allowing him a 888 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: lot of fourth downs. I can't imagine them, all right, 889 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: I can't imagine a more times one quick one. Isaiah Crow. 890 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: We talked about him on our last cast. Why undrafted 891 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: because of character issues? I'm assuming, but what's your take 892 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: on this guy? Because well, Wesley used to watch him 893 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: in the old college bar and they loved him on 894 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: Tybee Island, Georgia. You know a lot of U. G 895 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: A fans down there. The bar was crazy about this guy. 896 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 1: I like that Marks now using the podcast to get 897 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: personal scouting reports for his own teams. He's enigmatic because 898 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: it's like to not have a team even take a 899 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: seventh round flyer on him. You know, sometimes that character 900 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: thing gets in the way and it prevents you from 901 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: making a pick. But for him, it's an opportunity to 902 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: really go in and show what he is. Sometimes when 903 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: you're drafting, the seven order works against you because you 904 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: don't have an opportunity to pick and choose where you 905 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: go to where you have your best opportunity to make 906 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: the team. He was a talented running back in Georgie. 907 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: He goes to Alabama State. He's certainly good enough, he's 908 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: quick enough, he's physical enough. It's about can he find 909 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 1: a way very early in the preseason to show people 910 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: that he can be not only necessarily a bell cow, 911 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: but a guy that can contribute in a role but 912 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: also play special teams. Because where he is, he's going 913 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: to have to find a way to make a contribution 914 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: as a cover guy, maybe as a returner, to buy 915 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: himself enough time to get on the field as a 916 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: running back. I love it. That's some great stuff from 917 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: Buckey Brooks to recap. If if you guys missed here, 918 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: you kind of rezoned out over the last few minute. 919 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: We got some takeaways. Philip Rivers, it's going to fulfill 920 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: his destiny as the up tempo, next level Peyton Manning. 921 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: It seems like something that's perfect for Philip Arris the 922 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Bucky Brooks as is the best receiver group 923 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: in the league, and he's smarter than us, so we'll 924 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: have to agree with him. Mike mitchell I hadn't really 925 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: thought about his impact that Troy Palomo. It might change 926 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 1: Palo Mallow's role, and maybe it's just planning for life 927 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: without Palo Mallo. This this could be his last year. 928 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: And then shut up about the Colin Kaepernick contract. Everyone 929 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks says, so you just shut up about it, 930 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: right it. Stop criticizing. That's all I'm saying. I'm gonna 931 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: just say it. I think, uh, that was another a 932 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: plus another home run. I think Bucky's now in as 933 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: a recurring guests, whether he wants to be or not. Right. Yeah, 934 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: we definitely kid news for Kevin Patra. We might not 935 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: even have Dan back. Who knows. Uh, Bucky, thanks so 936 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: much again, out of the park. Great having you, and 937 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 1: uh we'll talk to you soon. I feel like I 938 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: I just soaked in a giant sponge of like behind 939 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: the scenes whispers, and you don't feel like a dumpster. 940 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: You know how he likes to talk about dumping off 941 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: his knowledge. Some of that and stuff was really new. 942 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: The Chargers, you know, I know, Mark, your shift is 943 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: up today, So I guess I'll sign this one out 944 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: to Chris Westley. I think we need to do a 945 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: post on that Chargers information, the up top belt offense. 946 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: That was good. That was good stuff. Um. We will 947 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: be back on Monday and our humble host, Dan Hansas 948 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: will be here and we can't wait for him to 949 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: get back from Texas and we're gonna be doing some 950 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: wind West's toaster next week, Zach, I know we're going 951 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: to be in a different location next week. At some point. 952 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: This is all Yeah, we got technical difficulties, but that's 953 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: what the h L podcast is all about. We're moving studios. 954 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: They're gonna be fixing up this studio during the summer, 955 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll come up with something. But we'll be 956 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: back for three shows next week for Zach the gold Standard, 957 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and Chris westling up Greg Rosenthal. We will 958 00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: see you Money